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November 9, 2025 90 mins
Originally aired on November 9th, 2025. On this episode, Doug talks shop wtih Captain Scott Null, in a special, wide-ranging interview. He also fields calls where he and the listeners agree that it's starting to get a little chilly in the mornings. All this and much more, on The Doug Pike Show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's Doug Pike all right?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Sunday edition of the program starts right now. Was laughing
with Frankie. I tried to print out a document for
some reason. This thing doesn't want to print out the
entire page, and it printed it.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
In too big a font.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
It's always something, But the good news is, and it
is very good news, at least for me yesterday, thanks
to all of you who were jabbing me a little
bit and having fun early sending me pictures of food,
knowing full well because I had told you so that
I was fasting and had been for about I started

(00:35):
at ten to six, that was only eight hours. By
the time the show was over, I'd been fasting for
almost twelve hours and was fairly hungry. But all of
you who helped by either commit or contributing emails or
phone calls or text messages, whatever way you communicated with me,

(00:58):
thank you for doing that because it enabled me to
go ahead and get done what I had to get done.
And I was still very nervous driving all the way
out to the lab where I had to get my
blood drawn for my annual physical which happens this coming week.
I was just hoping and praying that the one person
at that lab who had told me Friday afternoon, oh,

(01:21):
just come back tomorrow. I said, it shows no appointments available.
She goes, I know, but I've been working here a
long time and it's gonna be quiet. It's gonna be
quiet by the time you can get out here. And
here I am thinking, Oh, I don't know, just my luck.
We'll see how it goes well. True to form, I
packed up right after the show. I got out there

(01:43):
because they close at noon, and I thought, if i'm
there by ten thirty, surely they can squeeze me in
within an hour and a half. And the parking lot actually,
because it was kind of starting to be lunchy time,
maybe ten thirty, ten forty five. Oh, here's the good news.
You hear that phone. This may be good news here.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
It better be. It better be.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I'll have to look at the text in a minute.
This is about a power outage we had last night.
I'll tell you more about that. Yeah, it's just the
hits just keep on coming, okay. But the good hit
yesterday was this. I drove out there to sure Land,
I pull up in front of the lab and there
it's in a strip Center, and there were a fairly

(02:24):
significant number of cars right in front of the lab.
That kind of concerned me a little bit. But there
are also food places on either side of it. I'll
take my chances. Get out of the car, walk in there,
and the only other people in this waiting room, which
normally has eight to fifteen people in it, was one

(02:45):
guy and his little boy. Just one guy in his
little boy. So I go over to the kiosk real quick.
I type in, Hey, I'm gonna walk in. Need a
little help here, what can you do for me? And
almost before I could warm the seat that I was
sitting in out pops this guy technician says, hey, come

(03:06):
on in, you missed Pike. Yes, yes I am, come
on in. I'll take care of you. And I was
in and out of there, Frankie in five minutes, just
like a like a NASCAR pit stop man worked out
very well.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
How'd your day go? Did you they go that good?
That well? I didn't get any blood drawn?

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Well, and this guy was smooth to it.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Every now and then you'll get somebody who stabs you
and it feels like they're slicing through a nerve or
something like that, but no, this guy, it was just one, two, three,
Thank you very much. So tomorrow's tournament schedule goes back
to normal, which is good.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
That means I get to sleep a little later.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
The alternative had I not been able to get it
done yesterday, Oh god, I had an appointment set for
I want to say, like six forty or six forty five,
something crazy like that.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
But I was able to go ahead and.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Just cancel that with great glee yesterday afternoon. No thanks,
I'll not be coming back on Monday. Give that appointment
to somebody else, and I'm sure it's been filled by now.
This is the time of year when everybody's getting that
stuff done, and it nips into your golf time. It
nips into your hunting and fishing time. I know it,
you know it.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
It's a pain. If you've got doctor visits you need
to make.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
You got to.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I got to next week. I've got an eye appointment,
and I have what's the other one. Oh, that's that
physical I have to get. Hopefully there won't be anything wrong.
I don't anticipate any problems. I just and what I
anticipate is trying to get a good handle on how
to drop maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Drop a lot of weight, but I want to drop
a little bit. And I know what I have to do.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I don't I don't even need to ask. I know
what I have to do. I just have to start
doing it.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
And I preach that all week long on fifty plus,
talking to talking to everybody who listens to that show,
alongside doctors who I'm interviewing on this, that or the other,
And it always comes down to diet and exercise.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Diet and exercise and the third one.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Actually there's three things really, especially at our age, well
my age anyway, this audience has a lot more younger
people in there, so pardon me for dropping you in
this bucket, but at my bucket, and let's just call
it fifty plus. And that's really where it kind of starts. Also, sleep,
You got to get sleep, because if you don't, you're

(05:30):
gonna end up forgetting where stuff is. I had an
issue just a few minutes ago. I thought of something
I needed out of my car, and I sat there
for a few more minutes, did a little bit more work,
and then thought, you know, I better go out to
the car to get the the and I had to
sit there. I had to sit there for about two

(05:52):
minutes to find that buried up in the hard drive
between my ears. That's what I think it is. Honestly,
our brains are like laptops or PCs or however you
want to look at it. And there's only a certain
amount of storage in there, and once the storage is
filled up, something's gotta go. And usually that's something. Is

(06:14):
some of the short term stuff. I can remember vividly,
things from when I was a fairly small child, but
I couldn't remember that I had left my glasses in
the car. That's what it was I needed. And you
know how I found out, Frankie. I was working on
my notes for this morning, and I'm looking at my

(06:35):
laptop or my screens. I have two bigger screens that
I look at at that desk, and man, they look
a little they look a little funky. They're not quite
sharp as they used to be.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. So in any event, all's well,
that ends well on that deal. I'm good.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I'm gonna go have a lot of fun tomorrow with Kobe,
Kobe Stevens and everybody who's playing for Mosaic, which is
I did some reading about that organization, and what it
does is work with people.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Who are either.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Maybe have mental health issues or maybe have some sort
of dependency or an addiction issue, and it just the
organization gets with them and just tries to get them
on a better path, and permanently better path, not just
not just a quick fix and kick them out the door.
So I'm happy to help Kobe. I'm happy to help Mosaic,

(07:32):
and I look forward to being up there. I think
Mosaics and Magnolia, if I remember correctly, sounds like a
very good organization.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I got my yesterday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I got my good minimum daily requirements of vitamin D
sunshine and another vitamin with which you may not be familiar.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Because I made it up. But just work with me here.
I told my.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Wife if I needed I was very lacking in vitamin G.
What Yeah, Yeah, I took a home test and I
was way down.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
My vitamin G level was way way down.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
And so I said, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna
have to go work on that this afternoon while I'm
getting my vitamin D. And it takes about four hours,
maybe five sometimes to get a full full dose of
vitamin G.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Work.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
You're with me, now, aren't you. You know what I'm talking about.
But just think about this, Just use this when you
need it, Okay, Yeah, just say, Look, I took.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
That home test.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I'm deficient in vitamin D and I'm gonna go get
a booster early tomorrow morning or maybe tomorrow afternoon, whenever
I can get out and whenever I get a couple
of chores done.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
But I've got to get this vitamin G level refilled
or it's just gonna affect my health. I'm gonna try that.
I'm not so sure it's gonna work, but I'm gonna
try Vitamin G. Just remember that when you want to
go hit some balls, you want to go chip and putt,
maybe go play eighteen with the boys. Let whoever needs

(09:07):
to know know that your whole friend group is just you.
You've all been tested and you're all low in vitamin G.
I'm gonna get a bunch on tomorrow morning. That's where
I'm going. Hey, Mike, what's up? I'm so much better
now than I was yesterday.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Two words for you on your diet. Will Power?

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Oh, I know I know him will Power. Yeah, I've
met him.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Before and and a couple of hundred words. Uh, do
you want it or do you need it?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I have it, but I tend to suppress it because
I've I've allowed myself to get a little more out
of shape than I've been in a long time. And
so I'm gonna have to it regretfully and humbly, go
back to baby steps.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
I got to start over.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
I do when you sit down at the table, fink
half portions.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
I'm sorry, I don't. I don't speak that language. I'm
not familiar. I'm not familiar with that term.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Your two biggest muscles that you need to use at
the table are elbow push away from the table.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Man.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I know, I really do, and honestly, to be fair
to myself, I have been cutting back my portions.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I have been.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I'm staying away from sweets as best I can. I'm
not gonna lie to you until you haven't had a
cookie in six weeks. Yeah, but I don't need a
whole bag of them anymore. So that's that's step in
the right direction.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
I'm proud of you. Signed.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Oh well, okay, you know that may be just what
I needed. Mike from an old Sharpstown guy, how Sharpstown doing.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
It's a little cool outside today. I'll bet gosh, I'm
enjoying the Wizard though it's a lot better than triple digits.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
And get this, now, you're in a neighborhood that has
the homes are mostly quite old.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
They are. I grew up there, and I'm I'm no
spring chicken, but you're an electricity didn't go out yes
to last night?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Did it? No?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Of course not, but mine out in sugar Land, yep.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
But the good news is they finally got it back on,
and that means it's it's early enough still in the
game that I don't have to replace everything in the refrigerator.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
So yeah, I've got an Eastman in my backyard, and
the and the pole and back is still got the
same seventy five kVA killing what transformers when I moved in?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (11:41):
Man?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
God, our neighborhood, so no doubt our stuff last night.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
And here's how it goes at our house.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You hear this like that, just this big buzz, and
that means that wherever they've messed up again, and let
a tree limb start banging into why when it blows boom,
it hits it and you hear that big boot and
then the power flickers off.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
And then it flickers back on, and then it flickers
off and back on.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
The issue, go ahead, Mike, I know you gotta go.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Man, I'll let you go.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I'm know I'm gonna finish this for you. So the
issue is our next door neighbors alarm system comes on
for five seconds every time the power restarts, so it's
not like it just oh the lights are back on,
isn't that sweet? No, we get we get a tune.
We have a happy.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Tune woo ooo, one of those things when the power
every time, it only goes for a few seconds, but
it's startling.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
So anyway, all's well. That ends well.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
And you know, I'm a little bit disappointed with Center
Points since they haven't figured out yet how to make
the power stay on when the wind blows more than
ten miles an hour.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
We'll get it, seven.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Hundred people, they will. When the rates go up again.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Just gives a little more money. We'll fix that, don't
you worry.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, man.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
I enjoyed it. Thank you, thank you for the call
and the willpower. I am gonna do this. I am
thank you, all right, I see you holy mackerel. Yeah,
he's over there whipping up a nice breakfast. Didn't have
any interruptions last night, and I had to do some
things around the house before I could leave, just to
make it secure for everybody else in there. So all's

(13:23):
good and hopefully there won't be a problem. I get
back to the house all the way out to this
first break Shooter's corner Palmer High Went twenty ninth Street
down there in Texas City, has been always will be
forty plus years.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
I think it's about forty four now.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Because I wrote this, just this little note on the
piece of paper I've got here about them so long
long ago, and it says I had moved it up
from thirty eight to forty then. And there's not any
fresher ink on this page than about probably five or
six years, so they've been there that long.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
It's Jerry and JTK.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'm talking about the father and son who are clearly
two of the best gunsmiths I've ever known. They build
amazing custom rifles. They have basically just new and pre
owned guns. They have a couple of my guns over there,
as a matter of fact, couple of shotguns that could
use new homes, they have reloading supplies, they have optics,

(14:18):
they have camo, they have plenty of AMMO for even
the oddball boutique calibers that some people are.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
So fascinated with these days.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
And anytime you go in there, you're probably gonna hear
some stories about the shooting sports. Maybe it's hunting, maybe
it's target shooting, maybe it's competitive shooting, self defense, whatever.
And you'll also quite likely see someone from law enforcement
in there, because that's what and what brings them. The
reason they're there is because Shooter's Corner offers a discount

(14:48):
to anywhere anyone who wears a badge for a living,
which I think is pretty cool. The Shooters Corner TX
dot com they'll help you. Even if Jerry and Jay
are out of town guiding people on big game hunts
all over North America, there's gonna be somebody there who
could absolutely help you take care of whatever you need for.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Your enjoyment of the shooting sports. The Shooters Corner TX
dot com. The Shooters Corner TX dot com mine one
step at a time. Thank you, Frankie. I'm so motivated now,
I really am.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I'm amazingly motivated to get something done. I don't know
what it's going to be, but it'll be something. Hey,
what I'm gonna do right now is put some sports
on TV. And the reason I'm doing this I want
to see if what I saw yesterday was a fluke
or it's a trend. And if it's trend, I'm gonna

(15:46):
have to send an email to a couple of organizations
to say, hey, stop it for the longest time. And
I didn't even mean to get into this right now.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Oh by the way, thank you, Mike. I'm not kidding, man.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I'm motivated and I'm gonna do everything I can to
drop a few pounds and get in better shape because
there's no reason for me to be where I am.
And I had something kind of an issue that came
up about three weeks ago, maybe that actually sent me
to a physical trainer, a physical therapist and say what

(16:24):
is this and what it turned out to be. Not
to toot my own horn or anything, but something that happens,
it tends to happen not frequently, but regularly to people
who are either pregnant women.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Not gonna check that box.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna That's not how I
developed this or, according to a reliable source, elite athletes like,
oh oh yeah, that must be me. Well, I'm not
an elite athlete anymore, even if I ever was one. However,
here's the deal. I developed this thing that I thought

(17:05):
might even be a hernia.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Turns out it's not.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
It's just something that happens when you overstrained muscles. And
the night before I noticed it. The next morning, when
I sat up in bed, I had decided that I
was going to just see how many push ups and
sit ups I could do. And I can just tell
you it wasn't as many as I wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
But I pushed.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Myself apparently too hard and caused this issue. And so
at least it's nothing I have to really worry about.
I was told that it may or may not ever change,
and it's something that's physically visible when activated.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
It's like flexing a muscle.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
If you had big biceps and you just held your
arm up and didn't do anything, it looks one way,
and then when you flex it it does something else.
If only it would help me hit the golf ball farther,
I would be pretty stoked.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Dave, What oh where are you in a wind tunel.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Dude, Yeah, I'm to get in here. I just wanted
you to hear that out. I'm right here, I'm here,
I'm right here at the boat watch and one guy
he was picturing to put in I don't know if
you forgot the drain plug or whatever, but he went out.
I got two people swimming over here.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Really, Oh lord, well you know what, Ask them where
they're from, because they're not from here.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
And maybe up from Michigan, yeah, or or Toronto.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Bullets, that's well, okay, I've got here, I've got this
was a thirty thirty bullet and a buddy of mine
he read, papered it and uh powdered it and he
put silver bullets.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Man, I got about six of those thirty thirty.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Very nice.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah. Yeah. And now this one, it's about two times bigger.
And I mean, if I it's big around as a
quarter or whatever on the back of it.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
Okay, yeah, it's a big bullet, but it's a bible opener.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, okay, now I get it.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Okay, Yeah, my kniece, Yeah, my kniece got this for me.
But you can see where the center fire was on here.
That's very I guess they put the Hey, the head.
The lead on the top of this thing is about
almost three quarters as big as that thirty thirty Oh
my word, yeah, yeah, big round. You know it's heavy too. Hey?

(19:32):
Uh no, so what oh shotgun shields?

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Okay, Hey, how long?

Speaker 5 (19:37):
And what's the expiration date on a shotgun shield?

Speaker 2 (19:41):
I don't know that they have an expiration date. As
long as they haven't been exposed to a lot of moisture.
That can be a problem if it, I mean, and
I mean it's got to be really exposed to dampness
and heat and all that. I'll and I'll give you
the reason that I'm not really that concerned. You might
want to call one of the guns stores called Shooters Corner,
called Carter's Call American, any any gun store and asked them.

(20:06):
And the reason I say that I'm pretty casual about
it is that, uh, two winters ago, when I did
that d U video with some friends of mine, I
purposely brought out my old shotgun and I purposely went
digging around in the garage where I store my AMMO
and found a bunch and I mean a bunch of

(20:28):
very old shotgun shells. It was it was all legal
lawful good uh steal and and different synthetic shots.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Uh, but it was old and I.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Took them out there and one by one I racked them,
hamed and fired, and every single one of them went
boom and and many of them knocked down birds. So
can't be complaining about that?

Speaker 5 (20:52):
What about the now the old paper ones?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Man, if you're if you're talking paper shells, uh, you
might want to call one of those places and ask
them how to dispose of those.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Because that with paper, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, that's that's really old there, Dave. I don't know
that i'd go with those.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
I just may put them on the shelf as uh.
You know, I don't think that they fall off they
fire off.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
No, they shouldn't, not unless somebody not unless you drop
them onto a bunch of stand straight upright finishing nails
or something like that.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
You should be okay, you know, yeah, I got you hey,
And you know, like that one humpback shotgun I told
you about before, Man, I got that, you know, uh,
I got that boat shot in there, and you know,
I'm like, and I don't mind saying this, I mean,
you know, hey, uh, I want to shoot from the

(21:47):
hip of that thing, you know, because when you start
at the bottom, then you go to the top and
it clears everything out pretty much.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, and it just I think we talked a couple
of last week maybe about even just the sound. And
this is something that Bob Brister did when he was
still alive at his house. He kept a twenty gauge
pump at the front door, and if anybody was standing
outside the door, they would hear that gun getting wrecked

(22:15):
before they even tried to come in. That was his
That was his idea. That's first line of defense is
not to hurt anybody. Just let them know that if
they take another step, it might not work out well
for them.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
And you know, and you know me, I never want
to have to do anything, all right, And and then
uh but I mean it was that nineteen seventeen Bres
three three we were talking about. Now, that's got a
bullet that's about half sides of this bottle open over

(22:46):
and it's big, big grounds out there on the end.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
You pull that trigger.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
If I don't hit him, the sound'll get them, you know.
I remember when lie that's a line. If that don't
hit them, the sound is gonna get them and they'll
drop to the ground. Hartat Yes, sir, man A damn,
I'm at the bottom.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Man, Thank you so much. It's good to hear from me.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's out of that wind, all right, audios. Oh Mercy.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I remember many many years ago, Joe Dogget and I
went up to Carter's Country to the range up there.
May have been, might have even been before American shooting
centers was built, and he was going on a Cape
buffalo hunt over in Africa, and he was all excited
to go shoot this three seventy five he had, and

(23:37):
he's come on up, man, let's go shoot this thing
and it it would clear the range. When you touch
the trigger on that thing, the the percussion on it cleared.
It was in late fall when we were up there.
So there's leaves all over the ground in front of
the in front of the range, between the firing line

(23:57):
and the targets, and everybody else is shooting, and maybe
every now and then a leaf or two would wiggle
at a shot. But when we were touching that thing off,
I'm talking about like somebody dragged a rape through there,
or just turned on a blower that we didn't have
blowers back then. But if we had that's the effect
that thing had. There was just so much, so much

(24:20):
air moving with that those sound waves that it was
throwing leaves out in front of it.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
It was pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Someone three two one two five seven ninety email me
Doug pick at Iiheartmedia dot com. I didn't get to
where I was going on this bass thing. That's what
I'm talking about. But I'm watching this morning and seeing
exactly what I saw yesterday, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
talk about that, and I'm not gonna be very favorable
about what I think of what they're showing on TV.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Either.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
On the way out, I'll tell you about timber Creek
Golf Club. That'd be a nice place to be this morning.
Timber Cread is a little windy, little cool, but it's
gonna be This is probably gonna be the best day
for two or three in a row. Timber Cree Weeks
on FM twenty three to fifty one, just a little
ways west of the golf freeway, and there you will
find twenty seven holes, every one of them very fun,
very playable. You don't have to be a professional golfer

(25:11):
to have a good time at timber Creek. You can
find your way around. Just go to the right tea
box to tee it up. Great teaching staff over there
at the JJ Woods Teaching Academy at timber Creek. A
great place to run a tournament because they've got a
generous practice facility, got a place for everybody to gather
after the event, give out prizes, and run an auction
or whatever you want to do.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Really good people.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I've known the GM over there since Lee, since almost
the turn of the century. We're that old, and every
time I've needed something from him, he's provided it. Every
time I've sent somebody to him, he's taken care of them.
These are just and the whole staff works the same
way he does.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Customers.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
First, make sure they're having a good time, make sure
they get bed and watered on the golf course, make
sure they get a lesson if they need it from
JJ and his bunch, and have good time. Relax, have
good time playing golf. That's what you're supposed to be doing.
Timber Creek Golf Club dot com.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Timber Creek Golf Club dot com, Welcome.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Back to the Doug Pike Show. Thank you for listening.
I certainly do appreciate it. Oh, man, I see something
up here. Oh I don't like seeing this, but I'm
gonna talk to him anyway.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Pat Lester, how you doing, man, it's been a while.
I looked up Aaron saw that Frankie Road in there,
coming back from North Dakota, which means I missed it again,
didn't I.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
You know, we had a reunion this year. I had
Swift up there, Jeremy Island up there.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
Oh come on, man, I mean next year, please please
let me know, let me know a little more in advance,
and on your way home.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I left. I left yesterday at eight o'clock in the morning,
and I'm fifty five. I was from home.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Oh my gosh, you gotta be feeling pretty good about that.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Then. Huh, real good. I'm so good, real real quick.
My old shells. I still got some more blue whistlers.
You think they're.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Holy mackerel that goes back aways, doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Oh wow, that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Man.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Tell me, how how was your hunting up there?

Speaker 3 (27:29):
It was weird. I mean it was real bad and
real good. Okay for non existent, I mean absolutely absolutely
non existent.

Speaker 8 (27:36):
And then we had cold weather. Yeah, nineteen yesterday when
I left my house.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Good, okay, eight. Actually, my buddy is there right now.
He's to send me a picture of zero there right
now in my house.

Speaker 8 (27:48):
But the duchies d'st never showed up, I mean, never never.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Saw big thieves, you know, big feeds a duct the
field ducks the reggis. But the Snowgi for their snuggie
came in in fourth. Yea Snowgi for six.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well, that's fun at least. I hope we can get
them down here.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
I mean, I mean, hashing is really good. I mean,
and we had one hundred and thirty birds hunt on Thursday.
Good grief, Yeah, six six of its.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
What's the limit up there today?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Twenty and Texas? That would have been a thirty bird limit.
No limit's fifty fifty.

Speaker 8 (28:28):
It's fifty four.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Five zero, Oh my gosh, that's crazy with five and Texas.
When can keep fifty North Kota fifty went too much
of the Yeah, they're trying to actually hit that number.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Good heavens.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, I can't see four of I don't care what
four of us we put in the field. I can't
see first of all, who's hauling.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Well, we don't have to worry about who's hauling them out?

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Will you?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
When you and I were godding, you did have to
worry about who was going to haul them out because
we had no mobile effort and there's nothing motorized to
get them out of there.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
It's just us.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
What was at the dam pond at Blue Gingers. Yeah,
you can go back there and get them.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh yeah, get them out holdly cow, Yeah, I do
remember that. Oh good lord. Well, I'm glad you had
good peace up there.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Anyway, any question or any explanation for the duck problems
And nobody, I.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Mean all my local farmers, like we never seen it
like this. Wow.

Speaker 8 (29:23):
And I haven't talked to War lately, but you know,
War was even not even seeing that me ducks for
a while, not.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Until real late. We're just real weird. I don't know
they they just did it.

Speaker 9 (29:34):
And and okay, Andro I left here, say at eight
o'clock in the morning, and my place is Savin Order Jode.
I went all the ways in order to go to Augustavco,
Iowa and Nebraska. And you see like a few ducks
on a flue, But I never saw I never saw
big feeds of dust anywhere.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
I've never seen it like that.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I was, I feel like we're gonna see them down here.
If they're coming, I feel like we'll see them down
here after this next front gets through.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
But then it was zero and snowing at my house.
Was it snowed on that yesterday? And it's zero there
right now?

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, so they're if they're coming, they're they're flying right now,
aren't they?

Speaker 3 (30:14):
They be moving? But anyway, I heard him thinking about
the shotgun hills, and I thought about the blue whiotes.
I thought to give a shot.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
How long have you that would? Those things have got
to be what thirty thirty five years old? Maybe more,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I used to make him with my dad in the eighties. Yeah,
oh my gosh, yeah I still shot eighty five.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, right around there somewhere. I don't remember exactly, but yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
He's sitting out there with that bumpers. Yeah, there's shotgun chills.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Take some out sometime and just close your eyes and
put on some goggles. Man t one up.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I hang on to them.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, yeah, I put them up on the on the
man or something like that.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
They have more sentimental value than for knocking down a
spoonbill or something.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
All right, it's great to hear from you, man god Ley.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Drive safely, will you holl when you get back in town.
Let's go meet up somewhere, all right, Pat, thank you
man audios.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
What a great guy.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I've known him since he was a little kid coming
out onto that prairie hunting with his dad. He was
kind of our little miniature swamper, and anything his dad
asked him to do as he should have, he did,
And in turn he got to come out and hunt
more and more and more, and learned more and more
about it and decided to do that for a living.

(31:42):
And now he fishes in the warm months and takes
off up north in the fall, earlier fall up there
than down here. Obviously, if it's zero there, good heavens,
zero snow, all that stuff very unfamiliar to us down here.
But he's always had good waterfowl hunt up there, and
that's why I wanted to ask him about that. And

(32:03):
I'm a little bit concerned, a little bit surprised that
he didn't see any more ducks than he said he did.
And if anybody knows where to look for him up there,
he would. There's no question about that in my mind.
So they're hiding somewhere. We've got an extra pintail this year,
and the weather we're getting right now ought to deliver

(32:27):
a boatload of them to us. And if they don't
show up with this front we're getting right now, it's
gonna be a little bit. There's gonna be some head
scratching going on. It's still a long season. We've still
got a lot of days to go before we have
to worry about all that. But I'd just like to
figure out exactly what's going on and wherever I'm going

(32:49):
to try to get in a couple of hunts. I
want to be ready. I want to be ready to go.
There is something wrong with my word document again.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Frankiell figure it out. I've got I've got clues.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I'm getting these little, tiny little clues every time I
push a button. And so maybe I'll check during the
break and see if I can get a little closer
to home on it. On the way out, let me
tell you about Bellville Meet Market, forty something years out
there in the middle of the little town of Bellville.
If you don't know where it is in Bellville, find Bellville.
Just punch in Bellville on your navigation system. Get there,

(33:24):
and then it's gonna be a good day to do
this too. Get there, roll down the windows right around
until you smell barbecue smoke, and then drive up wind
and you eventually and not very long.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
It's not a big town.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
It's not like you're going to be trying to go
from the galleria to Katie. You're gonna be going across
the street basically, or down the street a little ways.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Right there in the middle of town, right there at
the light. And it's easy to get to.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
And once you get there, you go inside, and starting
at ten am and continuing to seven pm, you can
get yourself a nice barbecue lunch or dinner. They got
homemade hot dogs, pull pork, and then all the traditional
barbecue you can think of, and the sides to go
with it. Of course, got smoke sausage samples available every day.
There's two dozen plus flavors of Premium Delicious, award winning

(34:12):
pecan smoke sausage. You can try it before you buy
it there. And they've got those stuffed pork tender loins,
Oh my gosh, about five or six varieties of those,
and now they are taking orders for pecan smoke turkeys.
You might want to go ahead and get that holiday
bird on their list, eleven to thirteen pounds average, and
they'll feed ten to twelve people. That's a lot of

(34:33):
meat on those turkey bones right there. Beef, jerky, turkey, jerky,
dry sausage, dry stick, everything for grabbing go snacks, and
of course wild game processing all year round. It's going
full force now that deer season's opened up, and an
entire building dedicated to that, and they'll treat you right.
Just drive up there. There's three lanes for drop off,

(34:56):
three lanes for dropping off those deer. You get there,
somebody's gonna come running out there with a cart to
put all that meat in. They'll get it inside for you,
start getting it cooled down and ready to go, and
they will hand you a menu, a very big, very
comprehensive menu of ways you can get that meat prepared.
It's a wonderful, wonderful place to drop your deer. I

(35:17):
can assure you.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Fifteen minutes south of Hempstead, fifteen minutes north of Cilia
on Highway thirty six or online anytime you can get
almost anything but up maybe a maybe not a half
a cow shipped to your door, but anything else they
sell in there you can get shipped right to you
exactly the way you want it. Belleville MeetMarket dot com,
Belleville Meatmarket dot com eight five zero, eight to fifty

(35:46):
on Sports Talk seven ninety The Dugpike Show.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Thank you for listening. I certainly do appreciate it. I
meant to send hold on, I'll do that during the
next break. That'll be okay, Capscot ways in, I have
various things blown all across the yard. It has moved
a piece of a sectional patio couch about three feet wow.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Gus Well north of forty.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Hang onh I gotta run this real quickly, Okay. I
send him a text. I want to talk to him
about something today. If we can do it, and if
we can't, we can't, that's okay. I want to talk
about bass fishing for a minute, specifically about what I've
been watching on TV now for the past I don't

(36:36):
know two days. This is the tackle Warehouse bass Master
Elite at Lake Fork, and I'm watching these guys catch
their fish, and I'm really really disappointed in the way
those fish are being handled.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
There was I saw this guy, yesd I'm watching a
guy right now. He's got his fish.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
He's flapping it all around, showing it off to the camera,
holding up over his head. Now he's all excited because
he's got about a five or six pounder out of
a lake that coughs up thirteen's he's digging his entire
hand into that fish's the back of that fish's mouth
to retrieve a big swim bait. What's he going to

(37:24):
do now he's got his hands all over the fish again,
and it's just it's really disappointing. It really really is
disappointing to watch the way they're doing this.

Speaker 8 (37:35):
This guy.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
There was a guy yesterday he was working with about
a four four and a half pound bass, and it
was like it was like that fish had stolen a car.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
You ever watched cops, And the fish stole a car and.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
The fisherman dragged it out through the window and it
was resisting, and so he was trying to get the
cuffs on those little pectoral fins and he's grabbing both
sides of the fish. He's got it pinned against his
jacket because it's a cool morning, literally pinned against a
dry jacket which ripped all the mucus off that poor fish,

(38:12):
the stuff that keeps the bactery off of it, grabbed it.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Behind the eyes for a couple of video shots.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
That that's just a horrible lesson, a horrible lesson to
be teaching people who are addicted to learning by video
on how to handle baths.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
That fish did he This guy on TV just let
go right now, probably doesn't stand a chance.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Let me get Cap Scott on the phone. Cap Scott,
what's up?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Oh this Wendy dug Well, Wendy, and no power for
us where we are. Every time you just go outside
and go like this girl and the power goes out
at the house.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
It's stupid. Man minds the Internet.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
So at some point that's okay.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
So let's let's go back to that three fish stuff
from yesterday, because James James pretty adamant about not being
a fan of the new three fish limit, and he
and I both did agree though, that if we're gonna
really get this right, we need to focus on the
environment that those fish are living in now, which has
greatly changed.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
So come at it from the port O'Connor.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Standpoint, Well, most of what I see. It's just a
number of people, man, Yeah, I mean, just you can
go back and look at I mean, I did it
a while back. I don't have the numbers in front
of me, but just the number of licenses that are
sold every year, right, it's just increased exponentially. It's crazy

(39:36):
the numbers. And yeah, I have have kids around now
that you know. Tell you all, man, it's because you guys.
You know y'all caught y'all had twenty fish limits. I said, Well,
when I was fishing, I had no limits when I started. Yeah,
and yeah, I mean I caught and kept thirty forty fish. Yeah,
it happened. But on those days I was on the

(39:59):
south shore line a Christmas Bain, I never saw another person.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
So I was one guy taking, you know, twenty thirty
forty fish whatever it was, versus I don't know how
many here over there now. The last time I rolled
through it about ten years ago, it was wall to wall. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, let's call it two hundred guys. And if each
one of them has two people in the boat, to
probably one hundred boats. Each of them got two guys
in the boat, that's two hundred boats or two hundred rods,
and if each of them catch three fish, now we
got six hundred fish coming out instead of twenty or thirty.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah, it does make it with the average of one
fish per person that you had get that.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah, Yeah, you're still that's.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Still a lot of fish. Yeah. And you know, just
that that number, the number of guys that are that
are out there that are hitting it hard all the time. Yeah,
I think that has as much to do with it
as anything the environmental Yes, I mean, there's there's a
huge impact on the environment all side. You know, Harvey

(41:02):
James mentioned that. Yeah, yesterday covered up all those oysteriefs,
you know, suffocation, there's so much involved in all that,
and I don't know how you fix any of that.
So the only tool that they have in the toolshifts
is limits, right, and so that's why you know, we
worked so hard to get those limits changed like that.

(41:25):
I believe firmly that this h that slot limit being
what it is, is gonna help. I mean, he can't
do anything but help and bring back quality fish, you know,
because that's one of the things I hear the most is, man,
we catch a lot of fish shield we're catching all
good numbers and we can get our slot fish. Man,
we just never catch those big fish like we used to. Well,

(41:48):
it was because they were all going in coolers.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Well, and it's either we don't catch the big fish
like we used to, or the young guys are kind
of going, where's mind that we don't catch big fish? Period?
They never have and they want said that and this
is a good way to get it done.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah. And one of the other things I hear, you know,
because with the to the podcast, I've got all different ages. Sure,
And one of the other things I hear a lot
from the younger guys is, man, everything's fine. It's as
good as it's ever been. You're twenty five years old. Yeah,
it's as good as it's ever been for you. You Yeah,
but you don't have a frame of reference that us

(42:25):
old timers have, you know, he's been in that old
timers flute crowd. Now. But I am, and I mean
you did it. I did it. We went out there
fishing East Bay drifty free with nothing but a Kelly
wiggler on a quarter around as you did, and catch
you fifteen twenty thirty fish, four or five six pounders.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
I can remember not that unusual.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
It wasn't at all.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
And Trinity Bay was kind of semi quiet back then
because East Bay was so productive. And I remember the
first few times I got to go over there and
fish with Mickey or Blaine or one of those guys,
and we're we're standing on the edges of reefs, throwing
out and you know, just along the along those reefs
with what was it meant all kinds of top waters
and jerk baits and and just smoking five to eight pound.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Fish every you know, Yeah, it was not that unusual.
And I mean, and that's the frame of reference that
a lot of the younger guys don't have them. They're like, man,
I can't believe they cut down the limits because things
are as good as I've ever seen them. Well, yeah,
I don't know. And like I said, the only tool

(43:36):
that they have in the toolbox is to play with
the limits. Triticizes, And I mean, because it takes part
in all life. It's real hard for them to do
anything about water quality. You know, CCA does what they can.
As far as the habitat stuff and the oysters. The
oyster is a whole other issue. Getting down here up there,

(43:58):
you all got them covered up by silk during the
hurricane down here. They just took all of them. Yeah,
go across the bridge right there, Port Levaka. Right now.
I had had a guy came down here, was working
on the ranch doing some stuff, and he said, man,
I came across that bridge there at Port Levaka this morning.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
What's the deal?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Man, there's like forty or fifty boats and they're right
on top of each other, they shrimping. What are they doing?
He has no clue. Yeah, And I said, now those
are oyster boats and they're dragging every inch.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Of that orchary will they'll get them on.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Oh well, I think that's that's as big a part
of it, the same thing as the I mean, oysters
are the base of our system. You know, they keep
the water clean. Clean water helps you know, that's filtering
the water, and it just works his way up from there.
But I mean, I do I do see an improvement.

(44:53):
We're catching trout in places that I haven't caught trout
since the freeze way back in the back lay forward
tasting red fish. We're you know, we're catching these incidental
trout like I used to and then for several years
there I didn't. They're all fairly small, but always before
you i'd pull the shoreline and I'd be going down

(45:14):
there on the grass flat. We're hitting all the reds,
and then we'd hit the mouth of a bayou and
I'd tell my guy, hey, let that soft plastic drip
drift down just a little bit and you'll probably catching
a trout or two while we're cutting across this opening.
And since the freeze that wasn't happening, I mean, it
was zero's and now it's back to, you know, two

(45:35):
or three fish every time we crossed the opening of
one of those guts, one spot at a time.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
You know, they're coming back, man, they are.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
I mean, that's you know, it's encouraging, it is, and
I'm hearing from more and more people who target trout.
You know, I really don't target the trout much, but
the ones that do, they're doing better. You know, they're
catching more and they seem happier about it. And a
whole lot of them that were pretty dead set again
that three fish limit, and more so against the slot.

(46:04):
You know, they didn't like that lower slot. And now
they're saying, you know, maybe that was a good idea.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Maybe, hey, Scott.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
I hate to do it to you, mister podcast, but
mister broadcast here has got to hit a network rejoin.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Yeah, we don't do that, I know.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd love it. If you want to
hang around, you can hang around. If you've got stuff
to do, go do it.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
You pick man, I'll hang around to do that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
I got a couple more things I want to talk
to you about. Yeah, Okay, let's put him on hold
and I'll come back to him. And when we get
through here. Carter's Country. If you don't know Carter's Country,
you need to learn about it. They've been around sixty
some odd years. And one of the reasons a lot
of younger people don't know about them is because they
didn't grow up with Carter's Country like I did, like
Scott did, like most of the people in Houston who

(46:50):
hunt and or fish, or well hunt and fish or
just hunt, have been been going in there forever.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
They got three stories around town.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
The one up on the north side off trash Wig,
up by the Big Airport has a full service shooting range.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
You can shoot anything you want to up.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
They're sporting clays, trap and skeet five stand. They've got
rifle and pistol range. They've just got everything, and they've
got instruction for anything you want to learn how to
shoot better. And then, of course a great gunsmithing department
led by Bill Carter's son, the man who founded the place.
Billy Carter is his son, and Billy's been there a

(47:27):
long long time and is really really good with gun problems.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Carter's Country got big old sale.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Going on right now, to that red tag sale, and
this is an opportunity to get stuff that you've been
thinking about for a long time, you really kind of
want to get. Maybe you need it a little less
than you want it, or vice versa, but either way
you can get a really good deal on it right
now at.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Carter's Country online or in the stores.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
There's three stores, and there's one big giant website, Carterscountry
dot com. Carterscountry dot com.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Now here's Doug Pike.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
All right, welcome back, second and final hour.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Well it started right before Scott and I finished, but
it starts in earnest. Now we've taken care of all
our business, so let's go back and talk to Scott
some more. All right, man, I'm gonna squeeze a few
more minutes out of you if you don't mind. First
of all, when I was talking to James, I said
something about how the there are so many small fish

(48:26):
in the bays now, and how a lot of the
people who don't who don't really understand what we're really
aiming for, will go out and they'll get under birds
or trip over someplace it's got a bunch of little
pencils on it, and they'll kill ten or fifteen pencils
to get one keeper. How do we how do we
train them to just leave those little ones and trust

(48:47):
that they'll find a school of all bigger ones because
they do tend to run in packs.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Well, everybody's gonna get excited about these little ones, then
I get it. I do it, You do it.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
What we need to train them to do is treat
them a little better. You know, if you're talking about that,
bas Gat, Oh, don't do that. You know they've done
all the studies hard institute down there in Corpus, they
did huge studies on all these fish and trout are
a lot more resilient than we give them credit for.
If you just give them a bear minimum of respect, Sure.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Kip them off the front deck on the way back
end of the water.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
You know, don't throw them off in there like a
heronad either. You know, I see that constantly. Uh, you know,
just be you don't have to be super gentle with them,
you don't have to baby them and all that. But yeah,
grab the you're swinging up there onto the boat. Don't
throw it on the deck number one deck, that's bad, Okay,

(49:48):
just lift it out of the water. They're little, they're
not they're not, you know, not hard to handle. And
well except that they are hard to handle in that
they flip around a lot. So what I ended up doing,
I'll take my needle nose, you know, got them on
my hip.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
Yep, I got my flyers.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
I grabbed the hook. I don't even touch the fish.
Grabbed the hook at the bend of the hook, turn
it a little bit, and the fish falls right straight
back in the water.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Little pro tip for you, pro, A little pro tip
for you pro. Mashles turned barbs down.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Yeah, I mean it's just it's I think that's more
of it than yeah, trying to get people to get
away from catching fish. That's just probably not.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Yeah, that's hard. But yeah, the treatment part, you're exactly right.
They need to learn.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
And I'm really disappointed with the bass master elite at
Lake Fork because I'm here to tell you, these guys
are treating these fish like garbage.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
And bass used to be so revered.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Man, if you put a bass on a cleaning table
fifteen years ago, you're tired of be slashed before you
could get back to your truck. I mean, that's that
was unheard of. And now these guys treat there's another
guy just yanked one out of the water. You've got
one hand on it now, and Hi'm pretty sure as
soon as the camera gets off of him in his
big smile, he's gonna grab it behind the ears and

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then yeah, here you go.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Oh he's got his hands up in the gills. Now
that's good. Show that off the work deep dive and
crank bait.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Man. When it opened my eyes was when the at
the boat show that used to have the big tank
with all the bass in it. Yeah, and they'd go
up to Conra and catch a bunch of bass and
put them in that tank. And then those fish should
be in there for what was that run? Fourteen days
or fifteen days? But by the end of it, if
you went up there to that tank and looked at
those fish. You could see the handprints on them. Yep,

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where they were handled. You could see there was fungus
growing on their lips. Sure they were lip gripped. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
We used to catch them like that at Fayett County
and at Gibbons Creek when the schooling stuff was going
on in the summertime, get late late in that year
when the school there was still some schooling going on,
but it was almost kind of at the tail end.
You catch a bass and you could see a perfect
handprint across a back or on a or whatever.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Horrible man reason that was.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
That was my opener, those seeing them in that tank
and washing them throughout the week and seeing how they changed,
and you know, watching that fungus grow on them. And
so that's another one. I see it all the time
out there, all the bay. You don't have to grab
with a towel, no, do that.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
That's the worst. A dry hand is bad enough.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
A towel is that's that's a death sentence almost because
it takes so much slime off those fish and it
just opens the door for anything and everything in the
water to grab on and slowly kill that fish.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Ye. People don't realize that the slime is their protection.
That's their skin, you know, that's that's what keeps them healthy.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
And that goes for all the fish too. It's not
just trout. I mean it's everything we catch. Every where
we catch fish. That's their protection, that's their overcoat for winter,
that's their germ, just defense, that's their vaccination.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
I'm pretty sure gats outs are safe. Hardheads, yeah my
gaff top with that, slyme, I'm pretty sure those fuckers
are safe.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I don't think you could get
to the bottom of the slime on a gaff top.
Now how many times?

Speaker 2 (53:12):
How many times have you seen your line come up
thinking you got a pretty good trout or maybe a
red fish, probably because it's staying kind of deep and
three feet up the line before you can even see
the lure, the fish anything.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
You just see that s notot come on man, Tons
of them on the beach front while or tarping fishing.
They will they will absolutely slam one of those d
away bait busters. Oh yeah, tarping clam it and the
first immediate thought is got it harping?

Speaker 5 (53:42):
I mean they hit hard sure.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
And be within about ten seconds, I tell that it's
gonna be a gaff top. But what I found that's
been interesting is wherever I find gaff stops, I find harping.
Relationship is but they're they're in the same they're in
the same cool, they're in the same areas.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
I would think, let's just let's just throw let's spit
ball a little bit. Okay, you got tarpin and you
got gaff top moving together. The tarpain are looking probably
for a little bit bigger something to eat, but they're
moving a whole lot of everything in front of them.
Everything little runs away from the tarpa and the tarba goes, yeah,
I don't want a potato chip, I want a steak.
And the gaff top comes sweeping in to get the

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little stuff that they kick up.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
I don't know if it's that or it's the tarpn
feeding and they're catching leftovers, you know, the stone fish,
the stun stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Well, yeah, that's true too.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
One other thing I've noticed though, is you know we
get MUDs, just like with red fish and MUDs along
the beach front. That's that's a true sign of tarpain.
Now we're gonna we're gonna get them. They've got clear water.
We got a mud good mud streak, probably tarping in
it if it's all all the beach. And I'm wondering
if those those gaf top are rooting the bottom and
rooting stuff up that the tarpan.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Are now and the tarpin are just the tarpin are
the beneficiaries of the rooting the gaff top you think, huh, I.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Don't know, who knows. Yeah, I've seen Tarvin following those
huge schools of jacks. Yeah, and I think they're picking
off cripples, you know, because the jacks just go crazy,
they bang into everything. And then I think department are
just taking off the easy cripples. Yeah, there's a lot
that we don't know about it, but we can. We
can sit. I get a lot of time to think

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out there.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Well, and you know what, it's a lot of time
to learn too, because you study it enough times and
they're eventually a pattern will emerge. This is the old
way we used to learn to fish. Now you just
get online and go to YouTube and then look at that.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Now, I know fish.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Speaking the old time when you go into the uh
that cars country had you know you first broke Yeah,
and I just go right back to being a seven
eight nine year old kid, and that's my dad went
and shot, you know, before deer season.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
And I grew up on the South side, you know,
down there off Edgebrook. Sure it was so it was
kind of coastal, kind of kind of had that salt
air and not real salty, but it was different. It
was more humid. And then we would he'd get me
in the truck early on a Saturday morning or Sunday morning.
We'd drive up there to Carter's Country. I'd sleep the
whole way. I mean, it was the forever driving. We

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might as well be driving to Dallas. Then the door
would open and it was a different air. Yeah, that
the tected air. And then hearing the pool woo, you
know going off. I mean it just it was so cool.
And then to walk in there and see all those
mounts and just wander around. Yeah yeah, and then get
out there on the range and smell the smell the gunpowder,

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and it's just cool memories to think about all that,
No doubt. It was every year that was the only
place we could go shoot. And and as I got
a little older, that I had my twenty two and
I got to go shoot some and then he got
me an old military surplus a three O three oh
wow six. That was my first deer rifle. And then

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I got to shoot the big gun. You know, I
got to go out there and shoot at that hundred
yard range woo look out and yeah, and walking down
there and setting the targets. It's just good memories. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
And well, you know, you bring up something else I'll
ask you about, and now I'll let you go real quick.
So at the range, you do your shooting, and you
come up in crementa. You got the twenty two. Then
you get to shoot a little rifle. Then you get
to go to the big gun out deer hunting. I
had somebody else ask me by email a week or
two ago. Man, a good friend of mine is taking

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his ten year old grandson to shoot a trophy class deer,
something that's gonna go probably one eighty to two forty
first animal ever. And how long do you think that
kid's gonna love hunting?

Speaker 3 (57:50):
No, it's not gonna it won't last.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
There's nothing nothing left.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Yeah. Now, I mean when I started off deer hunting,
we were hunting around Gozales area. There weren't eardly any deer.
Just seeing deer tracks, yeah, deal was a big deal.
And then seeing a dough you know, seeing a little
four point buck or something. Yeah, it was that you
need to step it up incrementally. And I do it

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with fishing too. You know, were guys that they you know,
they called me up. Hey, I want to take my
little boy out fishing, or my little boy, my little
girl out fishing. And I'll tell them I did the
love kid trips. We're probably gonna go to the jetties
if it's calm enough, and we're gonna get some shrimp,
and this is a kid trip and we're just gonna

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go have fun. We're gonna catch what we catch. We're
not targeting red fish, trout, tarping, any of that. You
stand on the back end of the boat and cast
them all you want. Now, I did it with you,
did it with you and Christian and that that one
day in greens Christian had so much fun. I don't
know how many species of fish he caught, but he

(58:57):
caught a ton of fish. I've had little boys out there.
They'll tell me at the end of the day, we
caught fourteen species on whatever. Sure, and I don't keep
track of it, but they sure do. And they know
they had a blast. They caught fish over and over
and over and over and they're happy. Yeah, and it

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didn't matter that it wasn't a thirty inch trout. Nope,
it didn't matter that it wasn't a tarp. And they
really don't care.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
From the start, they want to catch a fish. It's
it's a progression of all of us in our age group.
You just want to catch a fish, Then you want
to catch more fish. Then you start looking for something
a little bigger. Then you start maybe tinkering with trying
to get two or three different species. But there's always
another step to take. And if you take a kid
out and put him on a thirty inch trout or

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a two hundred inch deer, first rattle out of the box.
Nowhere else to go but to the mall. They're headed
to the mall.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Yeah. Well, now, I totally agree with you on that.
But I'm about to go get on the tractor. I
got a cab tractor, so I'm gonna get in there
and get away from this wind. And I got now,
I probably got about thirty forty acres that need mo
in today, So I think I'm just going to go

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do that instead of I can't stand just being out
in the wind. I've got things to work on out
here around the place that I could be doing outside
the tractor, but the wind just gets in my head
and just irritating, irritated. I'm mad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I'm with you, all right. It's always a pleasure, my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
I'll turn my turtle box on listening to the last
hour of You and switch over and listen to the
listening to Texans get your butts w oh god.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
All right, tell me, I said, hell long will you?

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Okay, she's close to you day than.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
She is me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
She's down there with heroes on the water doing something.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Tell her thanks for letting me know. Holy cow, I
didn't know about that one. Anytime she needs me, I'm hers. Okay,
let's get it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Yeah, I don't know what. I don't know what that
one is. She got back from somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
She moves pretty fast.

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Tell her thanks and I'll talk to her soon.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Scott Audios. All right, holy cow man, it's a good
conversation with a good guy. Trust him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Anybody who's been professionally guiding any outdoor activity for more
than ten years. They know, they know things that the
average person has no idea about when it comes to fishing,
when it comes to hunting, any of that stuff. And
I'm very blessed to have access to a lot of
those people, and I call on them when I can.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
I don't like to bother them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
I don't like to put too much pressure on them
or expect too much from them. But when somebody will
give me their time and share with you guys what
I'm pretty sure I already know they're going to talk about,
I'm happy to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
And Scott's one of those guys. James is one of
those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
All of those people who drop me in their boats
and let me come fish with them for so many
times when I was at the paper and beyond.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
It's still true to this day.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Every now and then I'll make a phone call and
see if I can't go freshen up my knowledge base
and see what I can do. And most of those
guys are happy to oblige me, and I appreciate that greatly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
All the way out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Kobe Stevens, I'll be talking to Kobe tomorrow As a
matter of fact, he's got that tournament out there at
Northgate Northgate Country Club at which we will be raising
money for something called Mosaic, which is a group of
people who take care of folks who have run into
mental health issues, have run into dependency issues of some sort,

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and just need a little help getting back on a
better track in their lives. That's what I'm going to
be doing tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
In the cold.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
By the way, this whole forty degree morning thing is
really pushing my limits being able to play golf anymore.
This is the first summer that I kind of winced
at some of the heat. Every now and then I
kept going. I didn't stop, and I'm not gonna stop tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
But I don't know how. I don't know how long
it'll take me to loosen up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Let's just say that I'm gonna allow about another fifteen
minutes to loosen up, and then when i feel like
I've gotten that far, I'll probably go bundle up and
hide and hide in someplace warm until we.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Just have to go out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Kobe Stevens Apparel, he's got something for all the kind
of weather conditions. You go to the website, you'll see
it all. There's golf apparel primarily. There is outdoors apparel
that can help you out if you go and fishing
on a little bit cool and windy day. And I'm
gonna talk to him again about him and me working
something out that may benefit us all I think it will.

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He's got men's sizes up to four X. There are
women's sizes in designs. There's kid stuff, every bit of
which looks really, really good. I'll make you look like
you play better than you do. I'm sure at some
point there's gonna be some fancy dan players, some high
paid professionals playing in his gear. Right now, he's just

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making sure that people like us who who want to
look better even if we can't play better, and get
that chance.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
I'll be styling.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I'll be supporting his stuff tomorrow. I can guarantee you
might have to wear some different pants, but I'll be
in one of his shirts for sure. Kobe Stevens dot
Com a great community guy. He's at a tournament almost
every week, given back to the people who support him.
Got a store up on the North Side if you
want to go put hands on some of his clothes,

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or you can just go to that website and order
up stuff, and there's actually, toward the end of the
big long menu list, there are some specials that he
has when there's clearance items that are available, and I
forwarded some of that information to a buddy of mine yesterday.
Kobe Stevens dot com is the website. Go check it
out for yourself. I'm pretty sure you're gonna like what

(01:05:01):
you see. Kobe Stevens dot com, nineteen twenty six. It
is on Sports Talk seven ninety The Dugpike Show. Thank
you for listening. I greatly appreciate it. I'm gonna get
the phones here before I get to golf halfway around
the world or even over to the West Coast, both
of which are are or were underway.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Sammy, you're gonna tear it up first. There you go. Hey, Sammy,
how you been, Man, I didn't talk to you in
a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:05:29):
I'm doing the best out can while.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Out can though.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Amen, Man, what song out of question?

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:05:37):
I'm a real good security sixth book. You know, I've
had silver Robe, you know, I like the one when
they first came out from the Sybney two to the
Sibney four and uh that way, I kind of stand
they range in the three fifty seven man, and I
was just curious.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
I had, you know, went online.

Speaker 10 (01:05:56):
You know, you can't believe everything you see on LaGG
What is it ethical to use a three foot I
was looking at the rule of seventy seven and this guy,
he did a little choreograph on it. You're getting fifteen
forty six out of the muzzle, okay, And I know
it wouldn't be good to no more about about eighty

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ninety no more than one hundred yards. What is your
feelings about using that three foot to seven man?

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Oh? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:06:25):
And he use one hundred and eighty graand core lock.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
That's a pretty good sized bullet. I think that if
you are if you are accurate, and you don't try
to extend your range too far, and don't just know
your boundaries with that thing, and don't try to shoot
it halfway across a canyon somewhere and an elk, I
think it's it would be okay inside one hundred yards.

(01:06:54):
I would believe what kind of muscle ball velocity were
you say.

Speaker 10 (01:06:58):
It was fifteen forty six?

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Yeah, mule, Yeah, maybe shorten up a little bit even
because once that thing gets a little ways out there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
It's slowing down pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
And not really, I wouldn't be opposed to going hunting
with it and just challenge yourself to be patient and
wait for a shot inside seventy five.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
I don't think there'd be a problem there at all.

Speaker 10 (01:07:20):
What would be what is your ideal of foot pound
energy and with lots of be you know, if you
were gonna use something like that, I'm just curious.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
You know, seventy five eighty five yard?

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah, I mean at seventy five eighty five yards, there's
a lot of things you can shoot that are going
to take down a deer when I start, When I
start going deer hunting for real though, I mean, I've
got smaller calibers. But if somebody says, okay, come deer
hunting on my place, I need a couple of doze
off or come deer hunting, I need a call buck

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taking or whatever. I'm not asking for anybody's trophy, dear,
but I'm I'm shooting a seven mad because I don't
want that thing to run off. I don't want there
to be any issue finding it. I want it to
fall in its tracks. And a lot of times they do,
and a lot of times they might get forty fifty
yards out, but that's about it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
So I'm packing upunchy.

Speaker 10 (01:08:15):
I'm like that I've killed a lot of dealers around
a little with two pointy three. But you know what,
where I'm at now, and you might think this might
be a little excessive, But the rifles I use when
I go, I use my three seven five.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Ruger, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 10 (01:08:32):
And I did a little research on it, and a
lot of people think it's you know, it's an applicant.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
You know, it's a.

Speaker 10 (01:08:38):
Difference between the three seven five Ruger and the three
seven five, eight and eight.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Okay, so it's a big difference in them. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:08:46):
And I talked to this guy for a long time
and my box is not an AMMO for him. That
three seventy five does less damage to deal than you're
thirty or six.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
You know your seven mad you know, stuff like that.

Speaker 11 (01:08:59):
So that's I met.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
But I was just curuz I love my rug.

Speaker 10 (01:09:04):
I bout selling a whole suit. You know, you know
how you want to be gameful. Sometimes you got your
three civil Clive sure Security six black on your side.
You got your three civil clove, right, So I understand
the shot place that's what it's all about.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
That, you know, That's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Exactly what it comes down to, Sammy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
If you know you got two forty three and you
can put that little bullet where it needs to go,
I got no problem with you out there with it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
The problem I get is with.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Somebody who's just new to hunting or something like that
and and really can't hit the broadside of a barn
when it comes down to real life hunting situations and
then ends up having to track a deer for a
day and can't find it and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Just walks away.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Oh I'm I'm to go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Yeah, man, thank you, Sammy. It's good to hear from you.
All right, let me go talk to faux pro here
before we get to this break. I hate to do
it to you, Frankie, but I gotta get him in.
He's been waiting a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
What's up, faux pro one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
I'm chief, you know, just trying to I'm out here.

Speaker 11 (01:10:05):
Yeah, he and me too. That's the perfect one to
get my vitamin C in. I got vitamin C twenty
one cropy. I just delayed got my vitamin C for
the day.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
To go with your vitam of g oh my gosh, man.

Speaker 11 (01:10:17):
Uh kind of related to that last guy before I
get to the baskett in order to talk about Sam.
Yeah no, Sammy yeah uh.

Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
Kind of a funny story.

Speaker 11 (01:10:26):
Back in the day, I had a buddy of mine
up up above were you and I fished. I got
three hundred acres up there. He lets me, uh, lets
me duck hunt on. He's got some mallard ponds up
there when the weather's right, and he'll let me shoot
a deer. But I can't shoot trophies right, just whatever, sure,
and uh, I would go out there with my shotgun.
And when I'm palling shooting, I nobody taken over under
with me. And I have a Ruger Redhawk forty four

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magnum and a hoster. Okay, So I would I would
go out here fishing in my bass boat. So I'd
park my basboat in the creek and i'd walk up there. Well,
one day I'm out there hunting. Two game boarders walk
up a me scared the craft oft of 'em. The
two game boards walk upon the older guy that I knew,
and I guess a rookie. So I'm about here hunting
the rookie asking me because he goes Sir, I said,

(01:11:08):
I know you have a sight on him.

Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
I said, yes, Sir.

Speaker 11 (01:11:10):
He goes, what's that for. I said, well, I got
access to this property, and if the deer walks out,
I obviously can't shoot him with bird shot, so I
shoot him with this. He comes close to it and
he says, well, you know you can't have lead out here,
duck hunting lord, And I said, I said, Sir, I said, uh,
the letter of the law states no lead shot. And
do you really think I'm gonna shoot a duck with

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the forty four bagnum?

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
And he goes, well, the law says, and the older
game board interrupted.

Speaker 11 (01:11:36):
Me because sir, he hear Sonday he goes, it's still correct.
So it's not only we got to learn the law,
but aybody's got to read the fine print too.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Yeah, a good point.

Speaker 11 (01:11:46):
But on the but on the bath thing, you know,
I respect every fish I catch from a blue gear.
I even't respect the dang old gashpergu you know. But
when I catch a fish, you know, I always take
my pictures. Minimal handling. Yeah, and when I release the fish,
I even take the extra step. When I've tossed that
fish back in the water to toss him in head first.

(01:12:09):
Let him go head first. And that's where MLF is
way better than bass here, lady, because MLF has a
as a judge and another part of their rule, if
you fling that fish off the side of the day,
it's a penalty.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Good should be.

Speaker 11 (01:12:22):
So yeah, I don't like the way I had. A
friend of mine does a local TV show. I actually
called about it and he caught a fish and he
wanted to talk about how you caught the fish and
weather conditions all the time. I said, dude, all the
time you're doing that, this fish is diet holding it
out of the water every show exactly and every show
I've seen him do since. Then you, Hey, let's get

(01:12:43):
this fish back in the water. We'll talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
People don't realize when the fish is out of the water,
he's dyet.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Yeah, you know what, you know what you make it water?

Speaker 5 (01:12:50):
Hey, Doug, O would hold you out of the water,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
It would make a really good rule in team bass fishing.
If you catch a fish, you and I are a team.
And if you catch a fish, as soon as you
pull that fish out of the water, I have to
hold my breath until you put it back in and
don't fish, don't do anything, just hold it. Yeah, I
gotta hold my breath until you put that fish back
in the water. And at some point I'm gonna kick
you in the backside and say, hm, let that thing go.

Speaker 6 (01:13:15):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Uh, they've got to stop this. I watched a guy
just now catch another one and just toss it back in,
fling it over.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Why not? Exactly when did?

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
And it's mostly the young guys. Would you agree with me?

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Because at some point I said a little while ago,
as I started talking to Scott about it, there was
a time when if you if you brought a black
bass to a cleaning table, your tires would be slipped
before you could drive out of the parking lot.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Yeah, that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Was just unheard of to manhandle a bass like that.
Or and god forbid you try to chop one up
and eat it even though there's still a limit on
them everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
When did that happen?

Speaker 11 (01:14:00):
These young gut in there and these these the live
scope of guys. You know, they got to take their bash,
run around the boat three times, show all the spectators.
They're entourage and you know, looking or a guy like
Greg Hagny, he goes, I have to do fish min
I don't put them back in the water.

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
You catch me another one, yep, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
So it's you know, it's it's evolved in a way
I don't like.

Speaker 11 (01:14:19):
But uh, hopefully they're gonna do some correction. They got
the new NPF n p F L lead.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
I mean, I said that.

Speaker 11 (01:14:25):
Wrong, but it's a pro league that a lot of
pros have left the elite and MLF to go fishing series,
good old school, no live scope like that. They just
go fishing far to the veterans of all corners, and
that's what I want. You can watch that live too
on TV.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
So good.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
I'll have to find that on my multiple channels I've got.
I don't. I don't have them all anymore, but I
got enough. I got enough.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
N PFL.

Speaker 11 (01:14:50):
You can actually go to the internet and uh you
can go to their website and watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
You can strain it live on their website. That's well,
I watch it on white TV.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Oh yeah, I'll go check it out, all right, faux pro.
Thank you man. Great to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
As always, I'll be I'll be looking for you in
my driveway with that bag of philas.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Day if I get down that way, I'm gonna bring
a couple couple of bags.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
All right, you got it, buddy, Thanks man, Audios. Oh Mercy,
what a good guy. I've got so many good people
in this audience, Sammy Faux pro, Rick, Dave, Scott, James,
all these guys, all the every one of you who
calls this show, and Mike and David. I feel like,

(01:15:29):
I don't know, nobody's old enough. Not many people in
this old enough to remember Romper Room. But the at
the end I think it was Romper Room, or maybe Kidderick.
One of them looked through a magic mirror and was
calling out the people they saw. It was a little
kiddy show. It doesn't matter. Black Horse Golf Club matters
way more than my trip down Memory Lane there as
a little toddler. Black Horse has been around, well, not

(01:15:52):
quite as long as I have, but it's been there
since about the turn of the century, up there on
Fry Road, just a little way south of two ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Very easy to get to and and very fun to play.
I love that north course.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
It's still public, it's still daily fee, and it's a
great place to go air out your driver if you
want to be able to just swing hard and see
how far it'll go and still be able to find
your ball most of the time, not every time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
You can't play games on that North course. It'll bite
you if you do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
But it's a little more forgiving than the South course,
which was taken private back in January, and they're doing
fantastic things with membership up there and making putting in
some amenities to elevate that experience beyond the daily fee.
Great course that the North Course is. By the way,
if you get the right membership into that South course,

(01:16:42):
you also get access to both courses, not only at
black Horse, but both courses at Golf Club of Houston
and Blackhawk Country Club out where I play a lot.
Blackhorse Golf Club dot com. Craig Hicks is the general
manager there. He's an outdoors guy. Next time you're up there,
see if he's there. If he is, tell him I
said hello, and ask him if he's been hunting lately.

(01:17:04):
He hunts back east on family Land if I remember right.
Black Horse Golf Club dot com is a website black
Horse goolf Club dot com. If you haven't shot your
rifle yet this season, if you haven't done any shotgunning
yet this season. Get yourself over to American Shooting Centers
on a beautiful day like today and handle that. You

(01:17:25):
need to have that rifle tuned in. You need to
have that shotgun. You got to get your reflexes back,
your muscle memory. It's kind of foggy right now. If
you haven't shot all year long. Get over there to
American Shooting Centers. It's very user friendly. It's very easy
to find your way around. They have two hundred plus
shooting stations over there, so you won't have any trouble

(01:17:47):
finding something to do. Just bring a couple of rifles,
Bring a couple of shotguns, maybe a twenty two. Take
the kids to the little pop up silhouette range over
on the rifle range and let them plink some metal
targets all the way out to two hundred and fifty
yards by the way, if you can hit those, if
you can hit those with your twenty two, I'll be impressed,
I really will. It takes a while for a bullet,

(01:18:08):
little twenty two bullet to get out to two fifty.
Probably have enough time to make a little bloney sandwich
if you need to American Shootingcenters, Dot com is the website.
They're on West Timer Parkway between Katie and Highway six
and been there a very long time, taken over by
a guy named ed Orriggi about I don't know, six, eight,
ten years ago, and he has done nothing but make

(01:18:30):
it better ever since he took the helm. He really is,
he's a shooter himself. He's a fantastic sporting plass guy.
Don't bet against him ever, and he will make sure
that you and anybody you bring out there get the
attention you need, get them o you need, get the
targets you need, and then get over there and get
yourself ready. If you're not for this hunting season, hunting
seasons started without you. Don't don't let that mess you up.

(01:18:54):
American Shooting Centers dot com is a website.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Go check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
American Shootingcenters dot Com. I'm not a big fan of
being stuck inside four walls. I gotta tell you, I
would rather be outdoors, even if it's a little chilly,
even if it's a little windy. Now I am in
some ways like Captain Scott, where if you're outside trying

(01:19:20):
to do something you like, but it's windy and stays
Wendy and Dudle it up, Wendy, and it's blowing more
than twenty miles an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Eh, I'll go watch football, that's okay. I don't really
like being out in the wind, hot or cold. Really,
it just kind of messes up most of your plans.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
I've got some rose bushes that need trimming, and I
might get after them after the show. Actually, I bought
myself a fancy new battery powered hedge trimmer.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
I'm not talking. I'm not bragging, Frankie, but I did
get one. Bragging, Yeah, my new hedge trimmer.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
I've been doing it the old fashioned way, just a
clip clip clip, clip clip, and over summer I got
pretty tired of clipping. So I started saving up money
and saved up enough to get a battery powered hedge trimmer.

Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
I did.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
I looked at one, and this was a commercial grade.
When something that would I don't know, I'd probably trim
a row of small trees, but anyway, there was like
two hundred and forty or fifty dollars, and nah, I
don't My landscape out front is not that elaborate.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
It's not that much, and so I didn't need one
of those.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
I found one that I considered a better deal by far,
and it also takes the same batteries as the other
power battery tools.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
I've got a blower.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
I've got a little baby chainsaw that's pretty handy, and
we'll cut through limbs like about three or four inches stick,
which does all the tree trimming I'm gonna do by myself,
and so I'll I may take that thing out this afternoon.
I'll just ignore the wind. I'll trim those rose bushes
and get them off the edge of the garage and
they're just bumping into everything out there. They had a

(01:21:09):
great season, if you will, a lot of color in
the backyard on days when I wasn't playing golf or
fishing a lot. You know, That's my goal someday is
to play a lot more golf. But if I can't,
I'll be doing a lot more fishing. And if I
can't do that, I'll be doing a lot more hunting.

(01:21:30):
And at some point I'm gonna get all that done.
Right now, though, I'm still having too much fun doing
what I do. And so until then, we'll see. I
asked yesterday, I talked briefly about and I'm gonna have
to save this for next week, because we're fast going
to run out of time and I've got to go
to a break already. About kind of a little secrets
you might use to keep warm in a blind or

(01:21:52):
rolled up comfortably on a rice levee somewhere, and about
what you might think on the top three or four
things we didn't have twenty years ago that we just
can't live without now. And I think the standard is
going to be set at gortex because without that, before gortex,
which is when I was doing a lot of my guiding,

(01:22:12):
before gortex, you either had to just take an outer
layer of wool and hope that that kept the light
when it rain off of you, and wool still retains
its insulating property, so you could kind of stay warm,
but you were wet at the same time, and it
was just and it was really cold elsewhere, and it
was just the wrong way to do it. Or you

(01:22:34):
could wear one of those plastic coats that a lot
of people wore in goose spreads, or you could get
a plastic camouflage poncho to put over your head and
a duck blind and you would just, especially in those coats,
you would get hot and start sweating. Because the perspiration
had nowhere to go. Gortex, big deal. And there's a

(01:22:57):
lot of other things that have come along since then
for comfort out in the outdoors, some of which I've
kind of shunned because I want to feel like I
am outdoors. I'm not trying to feel like I'm sitting
inside watching a football game. It is outdoors, and you
got to just take care of yourself out there and
be as comfortable as you can or want to be,

(01:23:20):
and then just go from there. I like a little
a little bit of edge when I'm out there because
it reminds me where I am and why I like
being out there. It is different from being comfy in
your own home, got your little blanket pulled up over
your knees and sitting there watching golf on TV or
whatever fishing show where some guy's beating up bass before he.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Throws them back. There goes another one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
All right, we got to take this break on the
way out. I'm gonna tell you about air ride bikes.
Air ride bikes. That's Wayne Errington. He is up on
tom Ball Parkway and he's got his He teed it
up for Black Friday earlier than most people I've seen
most businesses I've seen, but he's ready to sell you
an e bike and he's got lots of them on

(01:24:04):
sale for up to twelve hundred dollars off on a
select e bike grouping that includes their top brands.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Actually Electric Troxes and Rambow.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Troxes and Rainbow are the two high powered go anywhere
bikes that'll get you in and out of a deer
stand safely and comfortably and quietly get you up and
down the soft sand on the beach down south. If
you want to go do that and run the beach
looking for fish right up close. All you got to
do is get up onto the Tomball Parkway and go

(01:24:37):
to the story. It's in the four Corner shopping center
up in Tomball. You go up there, you can try
it before you buy it. The room up there to
ride around a little bit, and there's also going to
be Wane up there to help you make your selection.
Air ride bikes. I got for the first time, I
got to ride an e bike when we did tread
that consumer show down at Staff Center about what a

(01:25:02):
month ago now or so, first time I'd ever been
on one in my life, and as soon as it
kicked in as soon as I started to pet a
little bit and then the motor kicked in. I gotta
get me one of these. I'm saving my Nichols and dimes.
I'm gonna get one at some point. I really like
the idea, whether it's just to go to the grocery
store for something quick, or maybe, like I said, get
out there in a hunting situation, or just right around

(01:25:24):
your property if you've got acreage somewhere, or you've got
a dearly somewhere and you don't want to scare the
game riding around in a pickup truck or something like that,
or a four wheeler or a buggy, get one of
those electric bikes and ride around.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
You'll see a lot more game.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Air ride bikes up there on tom Ball Parkway in
the four Corner shopping Center. Tel Wayne Errington I said, hello,
he's got great deals now for his Black Black Friday sale.
They call it air Ride Bikes dot Com. A r
r ide air Ride Bikes dot Com. Cubano Cigars. This

(01:26:01):
is Manny Lopez's baby, El Cubano Cigar. There's another picture
on Facebook yesterday of him at a golf course handing
out cigars to the people. Who were at a tournament
that was cool enough, wise enough to call him and
get him to come out and do that. That for
a golf tournament, for a sporting plays tournament, for any

(01:26:22):
kind of gathering where there's going to be a bunch
of guys and a few women who love the outdoors,
cigars are a pretty cool thing to have around. El
Cubano has a manufacturing facility right here in Texas City,
on Main Street in Texas City.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
This is not some giant factory.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
It's just a handful of people in there rolling cigars
every day, made from the finest tobaccos in the land,
rolling cigars every day, one hundred and fifty different varieties
of cigars.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
I couldn't even I didn't even know that you could
do that many. I had no idea until I got
to know Manny.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
I didn't know that he would put custom banding on
the cigars you buy till I met him. All of
this happens right here. You don't have to wait for
a bunch of shipping time. You don't have to pay
two or three middlemen a dollar a stick every time
you buy twenty four cigars or fifty cigars, and you
got to hit that middleman with his dollar per cigar.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
It's just costing you more money. You don't have to
do that. You can buy right from the manufacturer.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Go down there to the smoking lounge there at the
factory and hang out and see how it's done. And
then there's another smoking lounge he has over in League City,
about fifteen to twenty minutes from Texas City. And if
that one, it's more of a Havana style. Madd He's
a Cuban. He born and raised in Cuba. He and
his dad were down there. They came over here in
two thousand and six, both of them out of the

(01:27:43):
cigar factories to open their own and boys, he doing
a fine job. And that one over in League City
is kind of like the old Cuba style. The old
Havana style plays big, roll up doors, let the breeze
blow through there. It's going to be really nice and
fun to be in there having a cigar for the
next few days.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Elcubano Cigars dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
He will come to your event and personally roll cigars
or bring a nice selection for your guests.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Whatever you want to do, that's what he's gonna do
for you. He's just that kind of guy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Elcubano Cigars dot Com. Holy cow we had knowing how
much time we have left now tells me how many
times I went over on telling you about the great
sponsors of this show. Sorry, Frankie got like a minute.

(01:28:35):
That's about all minting, not much anyway, I'll what I'll
do is just kind of wrap up. I talked today
about the horrible things I was watching on TV when
it came to releasing fish by professional bass fishermen.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
They ought to be ashamed of themselves for what they're
doing to these fish.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
I get it, they're in a competition, and as Folkpro
was talking about, there is at least one I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
I think it might be MLF.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
But in addition to having penalties for a fish hitting
the deck, if those anglers mishandle a fish, they can
also be penalized, and I think they should be that
it's teaching a very bad lesson to a whole generation
of young fishermen who idolize the people they see in

(01:29:25):
videos and on TV and think that those people are
doing it right, so they should do it the same way.
And the way these guys are handling these fish is
not right. It shouldn't be that way, and.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
I don't know. They've got to do something or I'm
gonna have to start writing letters and making phone calls.
There's just no reason for this. There's absolutely no reason
for it. Now, this guy who's on TV right now
looks like he's doing it almost right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
Good for him.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Maybe he'll be the trendsetter going out hopefully. Please just
please drop this fish in the water correctly. I can't
look at it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
The music's star. Oh yeah, I hear it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
All right, we're gonna have to get out of here.
I have really enjoyed this weekend. I'm fired up for
this tournament I'm playing in tomorrow. I'm gonna be playing
with three guys. I don't even know who they are.
Kobe said he was gonna put me on a team
of guys. I don't care whether we finish one under.
I don't care if we got that guy did it right, yay,
Way to go, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
What's his name? I wish I could tell you, Paul Marx,
that's who it was. Way to go, Paul, you did
it right. Thank you all for listening. I greatly appreciate it,
you know I do. I want you to get outside.
It's gonna be a little bit chilly tomorrow, but it's
still gonna be sunshiny for the next five or six,
all the way through Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
That's as far out as I look. So plan some
stuff outdoors. Get out, get your family out. Get a
little vitamin D, get a little vitamin G. Get a
little vitamin F for fishing, a little vitamin H for hunting.
We're gonna make up our whole new vitamin list all
our own.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Thank you for listening. Really, I'll see you next week.
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