November 16, 2025 • 12 mins
Originally aired on November 16th, 2025. Doug's insightful interview with Tommy O'Brien, for your listening pleasure.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nine oh two on Sports Talk seven to ninety second
and final hour of today's program starts now, and I'm
going to lead it off with a call to my
good friend Tommy O'Brien out there at black Hawk Country Club,
who was honored by Golf magazine and it's in the magazine.
We can really talk about it now as a teacher
to watch in this great country of ours.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
How does that feel, Tommy?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Uh, it's it's pretty unbelievable, you know, to get recognized
by a lot of your peers and this and that
just just speaks volumes, you know.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
I mean, it's just humbling, dog very believe to be
on the list.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You know how long you've worked for this. I can
believe it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I don't have any problem believe in it at all.
I'll do I'll believe it twice so you don't have to.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, I'm trying to believe you being on top of
a mountain by yourself. Did I hear that correctly?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It was so fine, dropped off of a helicopter, you know,
and the he had to punch a skit in twice
to find a rock to drive me off on and
I was standing in waist deep snow.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, so that was that was pretty sporty. Couldn't move
That's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Who let's talk about Yeah, there's no excuse on number two.
Then you should not hear that hole anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
If you can do that, that's a good point. I'm
just I'm just going to air it out and go
for it.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So where to talk about the earliest part of your
golf instruction. Not not your little kids swinging the plastic club,
but when did you first feel like, you know, I
want to teach this game.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm in college. When I was a walk on over
at Sam Houston State, my teammates were very good and
they would beat my brains out when they were playing
golf together.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
But for some reason, they would.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Ask me for help because they knew I was a
student of the game and I enjoyed that and whatnot.
And one of my teammates, Brandon Turner, would work with
me a little bit and Brand Kischnick and Brandon and
Brand both one Division one events, and they said that
I helped them, and I don't know how much I
believe that or not, but definitely made suggestions and I
think it helped him As a kid growing up, I
(02:08):
grew up watching Jim Murphy teach at my home clubs,
the country.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Club, and he always looked like he.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Was just having a great time teaching, talking golf and literally,
as he says, making people stay.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
And that's just kind of the direction I went.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I didn't have the greatest of playing careers, but I
did seem to connect to good players on the teaching level,
and that's just kind of where it went. And it's
just been kind of a divine experience ever since. With
who the Good Lord is put in front of me.
Teacher was to experience and to learn from. And that's
(02:44):
that's the big key with teaching is you know, having
good people, good good guys that no way more than
you saying, hey, come out watch and come out and
learn and ask questions and so on and so forth.
I started out working for Jim Murphy and the golf
and then he wouldn't let me teach for six months
because you got to watch me for six months so
that you put out a good product. He because you
(03:06):
once your once you're out and you've done something bad,
then the words.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Out on you. There.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I'm kind of in a nutshell how it started, yea.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, bad teachers don't stay teachers very long, do they.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
They don't.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah, at the dogs, at chase cars and pros and
chase cars.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
None of them last very long. As Lee Trevido would say.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh my word.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You know that's something struck me when I when I
saw the what you sent me this morning where it says,
uh it says golf teachers to watch twenty six and
twenty you know, twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven. And
I think that maybe you should make a suggestion next
time they run a chart like that out put it
hit it golf teachers to hire. Maybe, you know, it's
(03:51):
just a thought, exactly, just.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
The thought you don't want.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I'm staying at the other end of the range watching
you call me up makes exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Holy cow, that's that's correct.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
What would you do You even have one piece of
information that anybody gave you that really resonates.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And is still just stuck in your brain all the
way today?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Oh well, the huge thing with teaching is the correct diagnosis.
I mean, Doug, there's so many theories and thoughts and
many things.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
To do, and I you know, I was I.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Was blessed to be around Jim Murphy and Jim Party,
who who showed me how to properly diagnose the swing.
They seem to have their own theories and their ways
of thinking on how to swing a club, but impact
is kind of indisputable. So if I'm helping you, or
helping anyone else in the world, I feel like I've
got a really good shot of really helping them because,
(04:45):
you know, let's say they went to the doctor and
they have a bum right elbow. You know, if I'm
sitting there looking at their left knee, the whole lesson,
I'm off. You know, I want to be able to
help someone help them quickly, and what's key to that
is to have the right diagnosis, whether it's with your
health or or with your golf health. So at any rate,
it's it's huge.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
To have that.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
You can argue theory and whatnot all day, but you
can't argue what's wrong with someone's golf swing from an
impact perspective. That's that's just what's wrong. You know, if
you have the flu, you got the flu, you know,
so you need to take a tamil flu there. So
that's been the huge thing for me over the years
is really getting a good grasp of diagnosing and then
(05:28):
understanding what elements that I show people how it applies
to that to that problem. You know, does it make
it worse?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Is it make it better?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Right there?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And there's a specific way to kind of do that.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's reverse engineering, really, isn't it. You have you already
know the goal, You already know where the finish line is.
You just have to figure out how to get them there.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That makes sense, Well, you're you're a detective.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Absolutely, You're going back from the ball flight from the
ground and then you look at the golf swing and
and you kind of figure out where to apply a
small chain.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
To create a different impact and go from there.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's an amazing process. I've been blessed to learn from
a World Golf Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
It's an amazing process.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
What's interesting is how casually you talk about it and
how comfortable you are with talking about golf when a
lot of the people who are listening now are thinking, yeah,
but I don't know how I have to How do
I do that? And the way you get better I'll
patch you guys collectively as instructors on the back. The
way you get better at golf is learning from somebody
(06:32):
who understands the game and can actually teach the game
and not go into your.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Scram or not you were scrambled, but your.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Little golf buddy on Saturday morning who's an eighteen handicap
and you're asking him about how to hit flopshots.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's just it's not going to pay off, is.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Exactly. And I feel so sorry in our industry today
and our business, they'll put assistant golf pro listings and
tell them they'll make five or an extra thousand dollars
teaching in a year, and I'm like, if they're not,
if they don't have any proper training.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
There, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And so you have to have someone who's willing to mentor,
and that's a lost art. Unfortunately in the in the
PGA of America for the most part, is that a
lot of corporate has taken over and pro's times are
just taken away from playing the game and teaching the game,
and so these young kids that want to be golf
pros and PGA pros end up quitting because they can't
(07:28):
make enough to take.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Care of themselves, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And again that's That's where I was blessed, was that
I had people that were very willing to mentor and share.
I mean, I'm I'm I see Chuck Cook on Tuesday
this week to help to help my to help myself
and to learn from him. He's eighty plus years old,
still learning and still willing to help other people. And
I just that's how I want to be, you know,
(07:51):
like me, I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Not eighty yet.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm not eighty yet, Tommy, but I'm still learning. Man,
I'm trying. I'm trying all absolutely. He's another five yards
out of that driver. Get those chip shots a little
bit closer. I might be somebody someday.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
You well know, you're a loved learn You give himself
credit if you just stay back. That's all you got
to Doug.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Just stay back.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, yeah, And honestly, that one little thing every time,
you know, here's here. I don't know whether you intended
to plant this seed in my head, but it's planted
in my head.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You You got on me so hard about staying back,
staying back until impact, stay back to impact. And you
showed me on video, and you showed me when I
freeze frame after a swing and whatnot, that I was
pushing my whole body forward through the wall. So now,
no matter where the ball, if it doesn't go exactly
where I wanted to go, all I tell myself is
stay back.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm not linking, I'm not thinking about anything else. Stay
back and it works.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
It's well and it does for you because the key
to hitting really solid is to keep your arc the
same for the most part. When you narrow the arc,
that's when people really start to mishit.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I mean they might not hit it, you know awful,
you know direction wise with them missed it, And that's
what most people do. So that'sing. I need to know
if someone's doing that or not. Like it Solid with compression,
That's the goal with every lesson Doug is solid with compression.
And that could be straight, that could be a five
yard draw, that could be a five yard fade. The
key is solid with compression for me, every single lesson,
(09:21):
And luckily I've been shown.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
That by some really cool.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Instructors over the years. How to really emphasize that.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
As a reminder before we run out of time here,
you can you can teach anybody out there at black Hawk.
They don't have to be members to take lessons.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Correct, I'm blessed they let me teach anyone as long
as they follow the code, the dress code out here,
Yes place.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Absolutely, that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, tuck dan shirt, collar shirt, no dim. There you go.
We're good to go on that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
But get up, let's go. How do they find you, Tommy?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They can find me on my website at temmeo golf
dot com. My phone numbers on there as well. Just
shoot a text go for mayor. I'm also on Instagram
at at tommyo Golf. So if you want to kind
of see what I'm about and go from there, you can.
You can do that absolutely.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
All right, partner, have a good day out there, man.
I may try and get out.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
A little later.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I'll be here all right, man.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Thanks Tom Yes, sir Ado, what a great guy.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I've known him since he was in his twenties literally,
and he's not anymore, that's for sure. And I've seen
him teaching at a lot of different places around town,
and every place he's been he's done a good job.
I'm sure they've they've kept him as long as as
a better offer didn't come along. And I'm comfortable saying
(10:39):
that he's comfortable where he is right now, and I
see him out there giving lessons in one of the
things that I admire, and I'm sure it's something that
most great golf teachers do, but Jim Murphy was one
of the first to kind of show me or use
this technique on me. All of these guys are capable
(11:00):
well dig into your like what else do you do
for fun? What do you do You like to fish,
do you like to hunt, do you like to go bowling?
What else do you do physically in your life other
than golf? And once they find out what you really
like and what you can really relate to other than
trying to swing a golf club, which none of us
(11:20):
wake up born and start swinging clubs, they help transmit
the information they're trying to get into your head by
using some sort of analogy that brings in that. I've
heard Tommy talk to me a lot about different things,
like in fishing and in baseball.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
There were baseball issues in my swing for long for
a long long time. Same with my sons, and.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
He used analogies that incorporated baseball to tell us what
we needed to hear.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Same thing with someone who likes something else.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I've heard him out there talking about any and every
other sport you can imagine, and relating it then to
that person's golf swing so that they can understand better
how he wants them to swing the club. And in
the end, it's kind of just like he said, impact
is impact.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's got to be right.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And all he's trying to do is tell you and
me and everybody else who's getting a lesson from him.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
All the great instructors do this. This is why he's on.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
That list of teachers to watch. They can make it
personal for you. And that's man, You'll you'll like golf
a lot more. I know I do. He's he's helped
me with a couple of things over the years. He'll
see me struggling and chopping up golf balls out there
and walk down to how's it going, Doug, Like, uh
oh uh oh, he saw me.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
He saw me hit that last one.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Oh boy, I'm in trouble, And I say, yeah, I
didn't stay back on that one.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
He yep. Every time, just every time. And it's it.
It's a process. It's not going to happen overnight.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
But if you if you get in there and you
go through the process, you too can be a better golfer.
Nine oh two on Sports Talk seven to ninety second
and final hour of today's program starts now, and I'm
going to lead it off with a call to my
good friend Tommy O'Brien out there at black Hawk Country Club,
who was honored by Golf magazine and it's in the magazine.
We can really talk about it now as a teacher
to watch in this great country of ours.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
How does that feel, Tommy?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Uh, it's it's pretty unbelievable, you know, to get recognized
by a lot of your peers and this and that
just just speaks volumes, you know.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
I mean, it's just humbling, dog very believe to be
on the list.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You know how long you've worked for this. I can
believe it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I don't have any problem believe in it at all.
I'll do I'll believe it twice so you don't have to.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, I'm trying to believe you being on top of
a mountain by yourself. Did I hear that correctly?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It was so fine, dropped off of a helicopter, you know,
and the he had to punch a skit in twice
to find a rock to drive me off on and
I was standing in waist deep snow.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, so that was that was pretty sporty. Couldn't move
That's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Who let's talk about Yeah, there's no excuse on number two.
Then you should not hear that hole anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
If you can do that, that's a good point. I'm
just I'm just going to air it out and go
for it.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So where to talk about the earliest part of your
golf instruction. Not not your little kids swinging the plastic club,
but when did you first feel like, you know, I
want to teach this game.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm in college. When I was a walk on over
at Sam Houston State, my teammates were very good and
they would beat my brains out when they were playing
golf together.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
But for some reason, they would.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Ask me for help because they knew I was a
student of the game and I enjoyed that and whatnot.
And one of my teammates, Brandon Turner, would work with
me a little bit and Brand Kischnick and Brandon and
Brand both one Division one events, and they said that
I helped them, and I don't know how much I
believe that or not, but definitely made suggestions and I
think it helped him As a kid growing up, I
(02:08):
grew up watching Jim Murphy teach at my home clubs,
the country.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Club, and he always looked like he.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Was just having a great time teaching, talking golf and literally,
as he says, making people stay.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
And that's just kind of the direction I went.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I didn't have the greatest of playing careers, but I
did seem to connect to good players on the teaching level,
and that's just kind of where it went. And it's
just been kind of a divine experience ever since. With
who the Good Lord is put in front of me.
Teacher was to experience and to learn from. And that's
(02:44):
that's the big key with teaching is you know, having
good people, good good guys that no way more than
you saying, hey, come out watch and come out and
learn and ask questions and so on and so forth.
I started out working for Jim Murphy and the golf
and then he wouldn't let me teach for six months
because you got to watch me for six months so
that you put out a good product. He because you
(03:06):
once your once you're out and you've done something bad,
then the words.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Out on you. There.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I'm kind of in a nutshell how it started, yea.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, bad teachers don't stay teachers very long, do they.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
They don't.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah, at the dogs, at chase cars and pros and
chase cars.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
None of them last very long. As Lee Trevido would say.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh my word.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You know that's something struck me when I when I
saw the what you sent me this morning where it says,
uh it says golf teachers to watch twenty six and
twenty you know, twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven. And
I think that maybe you should make a suggestion next
time they run a chart like that out put it
hit it golf teachers to hire. Maybe, you know, it's
(03:51):
just a thought, exactly, just.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
The thought you don't want.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I'm staying at the other end of the range watching
you call me up makes exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Holy cow, that's that's correct.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
What would you do You even have one piece of
information that anybody gave you that really resonates.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And is still just stuck in your brain all the
way today?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Oh well, the huge thing with teaching is the correct diagnosis.
I mean, Doug, there's so many theories and thoughts and
many things.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
To do, and I you know, I was I.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Was blessed to be around Jim Murphy and Jim Party,
who who showed me how to properly diagnose the swing.
They seem to have their own theories and their ways
of thinking on how to swing a club, but impact
is kind of indisputable. So if I'm helping you, or
helping anyone else in the world, I feel like I've
got a really good shot of really helping them because,
(04:45):
you know, let's say they went to the doctor and
they have a bum right elbow. You know, if I'm
sitting there looking at their left knee, the whole lesson,
I'm off. You know, I want to be able to
help someone help them quickly, and what's key to that
is to have the right diagnosis, whether it's with your
health or or with your golf health. So at any rate,
it's it's huge.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
To have that.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
You can argue theory and whatnot all day, but you
can't argue what's wrong with someone's golf swing from an
impact perspective. That's that's just what's wrong. You know, if
you have the flu, you got the flu, you know,
so you need to take a tamil flu there. So
that's been the huge thing for me over the years
is really getting a good grasp of diagnosing and then
(05:28):
understanding what elements that I show people how it applies
to that to that problem. You know, does it make
it worse?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Is it make it better?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Right there?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And there's a specific way to kind of do that.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's reverse engineering, really, isn't it. You have you already
know the goal, You already know where the finish line is.
You just have to figure out how to get them there.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That makes sense, Well, you're you're a detective.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Absolutely, You're going back from the ball flight from the
ground and then you look at the golf swing and
and you kind of figure out where to apply a
small chain.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
To create a different impact and go from there.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's an amazing process. I've been blessed to learn from
a World Golf Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
It's an amazing process.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
What's interesting is how casually you talk about it and
how comfortable you are with talking about golf when a
lot of the people who are listening now are thinking, yeah,
but I don't know how I have to How do
I do that? And the way you get better I'll
patch you guys collectively as instructors on the back. The
way you get better at golf is learning from somebody
(06:32):
who understands the game and can actually teach the game
and not go into your.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Scram or not you were scrambled, but your.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Little golf buddy on Saturday morning who's an eighteen handicap
and you're asking him about how to hit flopshots.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's just it's not going to pay off, is.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Exactly. And I feel so sorry in our industry today
and our business, they'll put assistant golf pro listings and
tell them they'll make five or an extra thousand dollars
teaching in a year, and I'm like, if they're not,
if they don't have any proper training.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
There, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And so you have to have someone who's willing to mentor,
and that's a lost art. Unfortunately in the in the
PGA of America for the most part, is that a
lot of corporate has taken over and pro's times are
just taken away from playing the game and teaching the game,
and so these young kids that want to be golf
pros and PGA pros end up quitting because they can't
(07:28):
make enough to take.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Care of themselves, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And again that's That's where I was blessed, was that
I had people that were very willing to mentor and share.
I mean, I'm I'm I see Chuck Cook on Tuesday
this week to help to help my to help myself
and to learn from him. He's eighty plus years old,
still learning and still willing to help other people. And
I just that's how I want to be, you know,
(07:51):
like me, I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Not eighty yet.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm not eighty yet, Tommy, but I'm still learning. Man,
I'm trying. I'm trying all absolutely. He's another five yards
out of that driver. Get those chip shots a little
bit closer. I might be somebody someday.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
You well know, you're a loved learn You give himself
credit if you just stay back. That's all you got
to Doug.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Just stay back.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, yeah, And honestly, that one little thing every time,
you know, here's here. I don't know whether you intended
to plant this seed in my head, but it's planted
in my head.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You You got on me so hard about staying back,
staying back until impact, stay back to impact. And you
showed me on video, and you showed me when I
freeze frame after a swing and whatnot, that I was
pushing my whole body forward through the wall. So now,
no matter where the ball, if it doesn't go exactly
where I wanted to go, all I tell myself is
stay back.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm not linking, I'm not thinking about anything else. Stay
back and it works.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
It's well and it does for you because the key
to hitting really solid is to keep your arc the
same for the most part. When you narrow the arc,
that's when people really start to mishit.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I mean they might not hit it, you know awful,
you know direction wise with them missed it, And that's
what most people do. So that'sing. I need to know
if someone's doing that or not. Like it Solid with compression,
That's the goal with every lesson Doug is solid with compression.
And that could be straight, that could be a five
yard draw, that could be a five yard fade. The
key is solid with compression for me, every single lesson,
(09:21):
And luckily I've been shown.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
That by some really cool.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Instructors over the years. How to really emphasize that.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
As a reminder before we run out of time here,
you can you can teach anybody out there at black Hawk.
They don't have to be members to take lessons.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Correct, I'm blessed they let me teach anyone as long
as they follow the code, the dress code out here,
Yes place.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Absolutely, that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, tuck dan shirt, collar shirt, no dim. There you go.
We're good to go on that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
But get up, let's go. How do they find you, Tommy?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They can find me on my website at temmeo golf
dot com. My phone numbers on there as well. Just
shoot a text go for mayor. I'm also on Instagram
at at tommyo Golf. So if you want to kind
of see what I'm about and go from there, you can.
You can do that absolutely.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
All right, partner, have a good day out there, man.
I may try and get out.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
A little later.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I'll be here all right, man.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Thanks Tom Yes, sir Ado, what a great guy.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I've known him since he was in his twenties literally,
and he's not anymore, that's for sure. And I've seen
him teaching at a lot of different places around town,
and every place he's been he's done a good job.
I'm sure they've they've kept him as long as as
a better offer didn't come along. And I'm comfortable saying
(10:39):
that he's comfortable where he is right now, and I
see him out there giving lessons in one of the
things that I admire, and I'm sure it's something that
most great golf teachers do, but Jim Murphy was one
of the first to kind of show me or use
this technique on me. All of these guys are capable
(11:00):
well dig into your like what else do you do
for fun? What do you do You like to fish,
do you like to hunt, do you like to go bowling?
What else do you do physically in your life other
than golf? And once they find out what you really
like and what you can really relate to other than
trying to swing a golf club, which none of us
(11:20):
wake up born and start swinging clubs, they help transmit
the information they're trying to get into your head by
using some sort of analogy that brings in that. I've
heard Tommy talk to me a lot about different things,
like in fishing and in baseball.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
There were baseball issues in my swing for long for
a long long time. Same with my sons, and.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
He used analogies that incorporated baseball to tell us what
we needed to hear.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Same thing with someone who likes something else.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I've heard him out there talking about any and every
other sport you can imagine, and relating it then to
that person's golf swing so that they can understand better
how he wants them to swing the club. And in
the end, it's kind of just like he said, impact
is impact.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's got to be right.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And all he's trying to do is tell you and
me and everybody else who's getting a lesson from him.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
All the great instructors do this. This is why he's on.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
That list of teachers to watch. They can make it
personal for you. And that's man, You'll you'll like golf
a lot more. I know I do. He's he's helped
me with a couple of things over the years. He'll
see me struggling and chopping up golf balls out there
and walk down to how's it going, Doug, Like, uh
oh uh oh, he saw me.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
He saw me hit that last one.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Oh boy, I'm in trouble, And I say, yeah, I
didn't stay back on that one.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
He yep. Every time, just every time. And it's it.
It's a process. It's not going to happen overnight.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
But if you if you get in there and you
go through the process, you too can be a better golfer.
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