The Doug Pike Show 10-27-24

In this episode Doug talks about deer hunting and tips on leasing. Also, What you need to watch out for while hunting next to a fence line. Do you know the rules for hunting in Canada? You may like their rules. Do you think we can do this in the US? Doug and callers talk about getting the kids off of their devices and into the outdoors. Dougs, offers negotiating tips and tricks that you can use with on your kids. Can deer smell corn? If so how far?  Do you know what "turn over waster" is? Do you know when to shoot a deer? How wide shoud the top hat be? Doug and the callers share the answers to all these questions and more. Plus, Golf updates, special Olympics fishing tournament, and more in this episode.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now here's Doug Pike. All right, Sunday edition. The program
starts right now. I had to run back over the desk.
I'm a little bit, a little bit tired. I had
to race over the desk and pick something up at
some point. Melvin, by the way, I can't see the
I can't see the call screener in here. It's I
don't know what's wrong with it. And I don't know

(00:31):
what's wrong with this headphone jack again, that's kind of weird.
There was something. Oh I found it. Get out of there,
I think.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I nope, I have no idea why this isn't working. No,
I'm gonna have to try and move it down here
somewhere over there.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
This is bizarre.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
We are experiencing technical difficulties ever since yesterday, and I
don't know something's Oh well, don't worry about that right now. Okay,
I can wipe all that out. We'll get there.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
We'll get there. It's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Melvin's trying to fix this. So he's trying frantically to
fix it, and I'm telling him, don't worry about it.
I'll find it. It's down here somewhere. Don't worry, I'll
find it.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It goes bam, We got it.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
We got that.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Now I've got to get this and figure out why
this isn't working, and that I don't know. I'm gonna
have to try to fix this at some point, though,
because otherwise I'm not gonna be able to hear you
guys if you call me. Yeah, that's kind of weird, Melvin.
Any idea why that's not working? I think I can
work my way through this one. But at some point,
if somebody calls, I am gonna have to change microphones.

(01:40):
And I can do that. It's not that hard to do.
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety Email
me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. This is so bizarre.
What could it possibly be? Let me think it's not this.
It's not that I plug that in and I still
get zero through here. There's nothing else ugged into it,

(02:00):
which was the trouble the other day. Oh wait, I
have an idea. This is I get I get focused
on these things because I want to get them fixed
and I'm gonna try to fix it if I can
find this. Is it right here? I think, let me
try to go to the the larger adapter and see
if that works, and I bet it will. Come on, baby,

(02:21):
come on, baby, come on, and no, so I'm gonna
have to move at some point, Melvin, Okay, we'll figure
out a way to get through this one. And if
somebody calls, I'll just I'll just unplug myself and walk around.
You think it might be I'll find one that works.
Seven one, three, two one. Already told you that. Never mind,
you know the number. A lot going on in the

(02:42):
world of the outdoors. Holy cow, we are less than
a week, less than a week away from the openers
of duck and goose and deer seasons, and pretty much
anything you don't get done by sunset today is not
gonna get done on your dear lease or duck or
goose lease or ranch or whatever the deer. Let's start

(03:06):
with deer. I want to kind of I want to
gauge how big a deal opening day is for deer hunters,
duck hunters, goose hunters, and I have, after having hunted
so many opening days over the years, I have this feeling,
and man, I'll go when I can where I can.

(03:29):
But opening day can be a little chaotic sometimes for
waterfowl hunting. Not so much for deer hunting, because most
of the places most of us deer hunt are pretty
well regulated. And I'm talking about a deer lea's where
you got five, six, eight, ten guys on it, whoever
however many there are, but everybody knows each other at

(03:52):
least a little bit, and understand the rules set out
all of that, And so opening to a deer season
isn't gonna tend to create chaos, isn't gonna There aren't
gonna be people interrupting or otherwise just bothering other people

(04:13):
on the lease. You're gonna go to your stand, somebody's
gonna go to his stand or her stand or their
stand or whatever. And you're in low where everybody is.
And most of that with deer rifles, honestly is for
safety sakes. Everybody has to know where everybody else is,
lest you create an atmosphere more conducive to accident and

(04:35):
injury or worse. Waterfowl hunting is different in that you
take the pie the Katie Prairie back when I was
guiding was a very busy place, and there weren't many
There weren't many acres on that prairie that weren't in
crop and weren't least and not all of them were

(04:59):
leased by the same people. If that had been the case,
it would have been pretty easy to set it up,
kind of like a deer lease. Say you go to
this field, you go to that field, and not worry
about having anybody else anywhere near you. What happens with
waterfowl hunting is that if I lease, if somebody leases

(05:19):
Melvin's land and he shares a fence with me, and
somebody leases my land, groups from those two organizations, whatever
they are, might wind up thinking, wow, you know, we
both need to be hunting right close to that fence line,
and that unbeknownst to each other, and that boy, that
can lead to some a lot of problems. As it

(05:42):
used to on the prairie when the prairie was overloaded
with waterfowl hunters, and I do mean overloaded, it would
there were there were mornings, opening mornings, especially when right
at shooting time, thirty minutes before sunrise, right at shooting time,
it went berserk. It went absolutely berserk. And for whatever reasons,

(06:11):
the birds would uh, they didn't in many areas, getting
an opportunity to come off the roost ponds calmly and
casually so that they could just find their way. I'm
gonna have to go to a different dum, I'm gonna
have to go to a different microphone stand by. I'm
gonna I'm gonna cut this off and walk real fast

(06:33):
and we're back. Do I have the right one, Melvin?
I hope I do. I think I do. Let me
see now, let me see if this one's getting some
getting juice into it where I can talk through it.
And oh, finally I'm moving. I'm packing my bags and
I'm moving, Melvin, I'm moving down here now. The issue
is that I can't get all the way back over
to that mouse and click on the phone call. Oh

(06:56):
hold on, I'm telling you, I'm gonna find a way
to do this. Man, No, I can't because I don't
have enough court here. You're playing musical chair, Holy cow,
Just pipe pipe rick up and we'll get through this.
You got you, no problem? Oh man, here we go again.
Why does this always happen on my shift?

Speaker 6 (07:12):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Brick bie?

Speaker 7 (07:14):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (07:14):
Three quick things real quick related to what you've already
talked about, except one.

Speaker 7 (07:21):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
The first thing is in twenty eleven was a horrible
draft for those that remember, well, yeah I do. Okay,
we're in a big drought now and I've seen something
this year, especially in the last two or three days,
that I didn't see at all in twenty eleven.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
What's that?

Speaker 6 (07:41):
And what I'm seeing this year is I've never seen
is I'm seeingpon dying.

Speaker 8 (07:50):
Wow, Okay, That'spon is tough, and yeah, it is, no doubt.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
It's it's it's not been burned, it's it's just dead.
And right next to it's a green one. That's how
dry it is.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
That.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
The other point is, remember with all the duck hunting
and deer seasons opening up this next weekend is even
if we got a little bit of rain Thursday and Friday,
us they are they're predicting, we may we may not
be careful with your fire, boy, Isn't.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
The truth everybody is with the fire deer leases all
around the state of Texas are going to have open fire.
One not open fires, but fire of some sort in
the middle of camp. That's that's tradition.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
I wouldn't be surprised if we don't have a major
fire start and it's come weekend. The last thing is
real quick. You're talking about getting ready for deer season.
I will tell you I've hunted all my dunk life
and before even and when I hunt opening weekend, which

(08:59):
isn't often anymore, But when I all my life, when
I did, I couldn't sleep in that before.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh yeah, it's tough when when it's all still brand new.
The younger, I think, the younger you are, the more
likely you are to have a hard time falling asleep
and staying asleep before opening morning, no question about it.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
I've never shut my eyes for thirty years or four
nights before an opening day.

Speaker 7 (09:25):
I'm serious.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
I mean, that's just that's just the honest truth.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
That's a big deal.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Anyway, that's all I got this morning. How anything doing well.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'll check in with you again on that some other time. Okay,
let's just do that, Okay, all right, do it?

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Okay, thank you dad, thank.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
You, Rick, audios. All right, opening day. I'm kind of curious,
are you Are you still as a grown up, and
I'm addressing the grown ups in the audience. Are you
still as excited about opening day as you were when
you were a kid, because I certainly and my kid,
I mean boy, as hunting goes for me, since I

(10:05):
grew up not in a hunting family. My dad didn't
hunt at all. I could count on one hand the
hunts he made, and he was always somebody's guest. It
wasn't something that he thought up, it wasn't something that
he wanted to go do on his own. He was
always just invited. And there were a couple of pretty
good stories that came out of that, to be honest,

(10:25):
But the bottom line is if you're in a family
that does, and you're finally invited to try to remember
to the first time your mom or dad or uncle
or grandpa or whoever it was said, you know what,
deer season's opening next week or two weeks from now,
or whatever it was. I'm sure I hope they set
you up early so you could get excited about it.

(10:48):
You know, deer season's coming up on November second. How
would you like to go with us to the deer lease?
How would you like to be out there? And I'll
sit and stand with you and we'll see if you
can't get your first deer. If you remember that, if
you remember that weekend, that moment in your life when
you went from being an observer to a hunter, I

(11:10):
would absolutely love to hear your story. I would love
to hear that story. I didn't have that as a
younger person. Like I said, I didn't even start hunting
at all until I was probably sixteen seventeen. I made
up for the lost time, believe me, Make no mistake.
I've had my share of fantastic hunting trips in a

(11:31):
lot of places, gotten to hunt a lot of different things,
and I've enjoyed every minute of it. It's the same
with fishing.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
For me.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
I just enjoyed being in the outdoors. We talked about
that some yesterday, how important it is, and I'm going
to get back into that a little bit today. Actually,
I got an email yesterday from David I believe it was,
and I'm going to definitely come back to what he
was talking about. Where did I put that piece of paper? Yeah,

(12:00):
it was from David. I just wanted to make sure
I was attributing it correctly, and he brought up another
good point that I want to bring up about being
in the outdoors and some of the things that it
teaches you, and why it teaches you, how, why and
how it teaches you those things as you grow up
and and need the skills you should have learned as

(12:20):
a young person. It's way too many young people not
really being taught the right way to do a few
things as far as I'm concerned. And we'll get into
some of that today seven one, three two, seven ninety.
Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. We'll take a
little break.

Speaker 9 (12:37):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety, breaking sports news on
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Speaker 4 (12:42):
We'll get that information to them. This is the Doug
Pike Show.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Singing in the rain must not be from around here, Melvin. Yeah,
I'm just trying to bring some rain to out do
what you can. Yeah, this is do what you can, man. Okay,
I have got I've created a makeshift workspace here that
is it's not gonna be fun and it's not gonna

(13:07):
be easy, and nobody puts these things where they belong.
All this fancy TV stuff that Adam and Adam are
using now it just makes it I'm in a wrestling
match in here. Okay, Well, now I can't see my
little laptop now. But if I move that, I can't
work the microphone. This is gonna be It's gonna be

(13:29):
a fun ride, Melvin, I guarantee it is. But we
will make it. I can barely see the call screener,
but so you know I can't. Oh, maybe I can. No,
I can't. I can't see far enough over. Wait a minute,
I can move this one.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I might be able to do this, Melvin. It just
might work if I can lean back, lean back just
a little bit and maybe put that here, put this here.
We'll see if we can make this for it. What
I want to make work in this segment is to
talk a little bit more about opening day and how
you remember your first few opening days as a kid,

(14:06):
whether it dove season, duck season, whatever. Dove season was
a little tricky for some kids depending on their parents'
immersion into the opening day ritual. Because dove season doesn't
necessarily start on the weekend. It starts on September first,
which is the earliest day that Federal Migratory Bird rules

(14:30):
will allow it to open, So you've got that to consider.
That means maybe taking your son or daughter out of
school on a Wednesday or Tuesday or Friday, a Thursday, whatever,
instead of just a traditional waterfowl or deer opening day
on a Saturday. A lot of people as a guide
once again out there on that prairie. It was on

(14:53):
opening day of dove season. It was predominantly adults, There's
no question about that. There's no question about that. But
almost every bunch that we escorted out onto that prairie
and set up in a field somewhere had at least
one or two school age kids with them, and a
couple of younger ones I can remember, And it really
kind of it goes back to the how young is

(15:16):
too young stuff. There were more than a few people
out on that prairie who on September one would show
up with three and four year olds and maybe five
year olds and let them just run all over that prairie.
And I knew, and everybody else I worked with knew that, hey,

(15:36):
the prairies, the prairie, there's snakes out there too, and
especially if we were hunting anywhere near water, it just
kinda there was some cringe factor in allowing these kid
I'm all for letting kids run around in the woods,
I really am. I let my son run all over
the place, but I didn't get maybe a few steps
from him. He probably thought he was farther away from

(16:00):
me than he really ever was.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
But it was the.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Just this deep, deep genetic requirement in my brain. It's
in my DNA that I protect him while at the
same time letting him get out there. And there's a
difference between letting the kid run around a little bit
and learn about the outdoors and giving them too long
leash and putting them in harm's way, because there are

(16:28):
all kinds of things that they need to learn about.
Avoiding muddy muddy creek banks, that's something to avoid because
if you put the right foot down the wrong way,
all of a sudden you're sliding into the water. And
as you grow up, somewhere along the way, you just

(16:49):
might slide into moving water and not really understand what
to do or how to do it. Boy, just looking
back now, I'm thinking about all the things that I
taught my son in the outdoors when he was really,
really young, and I'm just hoping, I'm hoping those lessons
stuck because right now he's in dad doesn't know anything

(17:10):
mode and he knows everything mode, and I'm just having
to I'm just having to ride the train. Man, I'm
just having to ride it through until he finally kind
of figures out that Dad's not half as dumb as
he thinks. Seven seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia
dot com. See what else I had? Oh, this is

(17:32):
something else. Uh, I'll get off the kid think for
just a minute. But I am going to circle back
in a little while because there's some really important things
that I got from David, like I said in an email,
and I want to talk about them. One of the problems,
one of the knocks on Texas when I've gone hunting

(17:52):
in other states is hey, man, y'all. Y'all have great
hunting and fishing, there no question about it. You have
an amazing parks and wildlife apartment, You have all these
awesome opportunities, but you don't have much public hunting land.
And that's quite true. The state of Texas is ninety
something percent privately owned, nine acres out of ten and

(18:14):
change privately owned, and that means you can't walk out
there and hunt. Now, there are places, and I'll bring
Canada up because it's probably got one of the most
user friendly laws, or it did at least on the
two times I've been up there to hunt, it was.
I was reminded of it both times that I went.

(18:36):
And it's been a long time ago. They may have
changed the rules by now, I don't know, but the
rule was you cannot pay somebody to hunt on their
land and they cannot charge you to hunt on your
land on their land. In other words, it's all about relationships.

(18:58):
You got to make friends. And a lot of those
guides that I met up there said they'll carry around,
They'll go to the grocery store or a bakery and
carry around during goose season and carry that a big
apple pie or a big pumpkin pie or something like
that in their truck with them when they go scouting,

(19:20):
and when they find a place they like they would
like to hunt the next morning, they will go up
and knock on the farm house door, say hi, I
brought you something in hopes that we could kind of
work out a little deal on maybe me going hunting
on your place tomorrow morning and trying to shoot some

(19:41):
Canada geese, trying to shoot some ducks here. Whatever they're
going after there were just just polite society would offer
a gift in exchange for hunting rights. And the landowner
doesn't have to let you hunt on his land or
her land, but neither if there's an agreement made, can

(20:04):
that person charge you money to do it. And I
think that I think that pumpkin pies and apple pies
fall within the range of not really offering valuable consideration
to be hunting on the land. It's all about friendships
and who you know and how you talk to people.
There are a lot of there are not a lot.

(20:25):
There are a few young guides I know now who
would probably have a hard time scratching out a permission
to hunt on certain landowner's lands because they just don't
know how to talk to people. They just don't. They're
very good at what they do. They can put out
a spread and it just doesn't work out. The rest

(20:46):
of that part of the personality part, which I've talked
about a million times on this program, is so critical
to setting up a fishing trip with a guide or
a hunting trip with a guy. You're going to be
with that person for hours, in close proximity for hours,
especially goodness gracious. On a fishing trip, you're on that boat,
you're in the middle of the bay, on a boat,

(21:07):
never more than probably twenty feet away on the average
bay fishing trip, twenty feet away from that person. They
hear every word you say. They experience everything you experience.
And if you get off to a slow start or
a crooked start at the beginning, when the sun's coming up,
it's going to be a long day. No matter how
many fish you catch. A good fishing trip will a

(21:30):
good bite will knock some of the sting out of it,
some of the some of the uh oh. But it's
best if if everybody can get along. And that's what
they do up in Canada to get their hunting rights.
It's amazing how that works out. I don't know. I'm
sure there's there are exceptions to the to the law
and the rule up there. I'm sure somebody at some

(21:54):
point accepted something better than flowers or an apple pie.
That's something else. Those guys do say. Here, man, I
brought you, brought you these to give to your wife. Well,
that was nice. What can I do for you? I
need to hunt on your land tomorrow. I see that
two thousand Canada geese out there, Well, they don't call
them Canada geese up there. They just call them geese.
See those two thousand geese out there. I'd sure like

(22:16):
to set up in the morning and hunt on if
you don't mind, we'll we'll be very quiet coming in.
We'll make a little noise while we're hunting, of course,
but then we'll be very quiet and take care of
your place going out and you might get a deal,
you might not, who knows. Oh well, let's move on,
shall we.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Ninety?

Speaker 9 (22:34):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety Houston, Sports online at
sports seven ninety dot com.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Back to the Doug Fike Show. Call them bluney Sandwich
on that they have no rain falling up such, shall
you know? What I need to do is look at
the entire national map. Let's see if there's any rain
out there. And no, I'm probably not going to play
the temperature game this morning. I'm not sure. I it
was a good one though yesterday, because it was what
was it thirty four up in the top of the state.

(23:04):
Is that what it was, Melvin? Do you recall, yeah,
something like that, thirty four degrees? And I could I
guess I could take a quick peek, but maybe not.
Now I've got quite a few emails I need to
go through. Brian Erickson our news director over on KTRH
sends out stories of relevance. I guess you could call them,
and especially here we are a week from the election, basically,

(23:28):
and there's just so much, so much going on. Okay, Kevin, ways,
let me look at my emails. I'm not sure that
I responded to that one yet, but I will hold on.
I'm gonna do that real quick because it's important. Stand
by one second, and then I'm going to go back
to these other emails. When you get this email, whoever

(23:53):
you are, and you see that it's all caps, that's
just how I do my show prep. I'm not mad
or excited or anything. It's just how I do my prep. Uh,
Kevin waved in. Today's my sixty third birthday. Good for you,
Good for you. That's Kevin. If you don't remember, from
down in Missouri County. He's a guy who kind who
kind of takes care of a lot of those fishing

(24:14):
events they have down there for kids, which I'm glad. Boy,
holy cow, look at you. He got himself a birthday flounder.
I bet it'll be a really good birthday meal with
a little about half a cup of crab meat laid
over top of those filets. Holy cow, first fish he caught?
U see it?

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
That was Thursday. That was Thursday. He went fishing and
the first fish he caught was a twenty two inch flounder.
They boxed four, all of which were longer than eighteen inches.
I don't know where you were, Kevin, but that you
were in the right spot for flounder. I talked about
them a little bit yesterday.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, just send me a map. I promise nobody else
to show up. Don't worry, share, there won't be anybody there, man,
Holy cow. Yes, Steve waded in and I tell you what,
I'm going to kind of get to this in this segment,
and maybe we'll do a little bit more of it
as we go down our road. But he's thinking exactly
what I'm seek thinking. And social media has made these

(25:15):
young people terrible communicators. They just don't know how to
hold a conversation and look each other in the eye.
And that is absolutely, positively true. There are early in
the social media thing, when more and more kids were
on their phone more and more hours in the day,
there were a couple of spoofs about kids. Four kids

(25:40):
sitting at a fast food restaurant table and all four
of them looking at their phones, and we thought, oh,
that's so silly. No, that'll never happen. But if you
pay attention when you go into restaurants that cater not
only to adults but to teenagers, you'll see that more
and more. And one of the things that I think

(26:01):
is kind of cool is there are some teenagers who
instead of just instantly picking up their phones, and some
young adults too. I've heard do this. Four of them
sitting down for lunch or dinner or whatever, all four
of them turn their phones upside down and put them
in the middle of the table. First person to reach

(26:21):
for their phone during the meal, whether it rings, whether
it buzzes, whether it says, how do he do? First
person to touch that phone pays the whole bill. You
like that, Melvine. I love that. So it's like chicken. Yeah,
it's a game of It's a game of chickens social
media chicken. How addicted are you to your phone? And

(26:43):
what phone call might you get? What text message? What Instagram,
Facebook chat, whatever, all of those things? What is so
important that it can't wait ten minutes, fifteen minutes? How
long does it taken back a quarter pounder these days.
I don't know, have you noticed, speaking of Melvin, before

(27:04):
we get back to the outdoors and kids and all. Yeah,
speaking of have you noticed that every Hamburger bun on
the planet is a little bit smaller?

Speaker 10 (27:11):
Now?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (27:12):
I have you know?

Speaker 2 (27:13):
That's I've seen some of these deals that the Hamburger
place is put on. And essentially these two for ones,
essentially what you pay is more to get two little
things that don't add up to the original normal sized
big thing. They're just they're just we live in a

(27:35):
world of sliders, Melvin. Yeah, it's it's shrink shrinkage, shrink flation.
A lot of shrinkage going on in the in the
beef world these days is terrible.

Speaker 10 (27:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Following up from yesterday is something else. It's just from David.
Something David sent me from yesterday said something else. My
wife has commented about kids in the classroom. She's a teacher,
is how she CONTs suddenly has to remind some of
them that you don't have to say everything that pops
in your head. No doubt, some kids are already talkative,

(28:10):
and this can be especially true for boys. That's there's
a time in which boys stop talking and girls start talking,
and once that switch is flipped, it it just I
don't think it ever changes.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
To continue from David's email, And let's be honest, how
many times have we been in meetings where even adults
act as though they have to say whatever pops in
their heads. And it's sometimes said you can't learn when
you're talking instead of listening. Couldn't agree, moy It's such
an important lesson. That is, if you see something or
think something while you're outdoors and you're in a blind

(28:45):
or a box or something with somebody else, you don't
have to talk about it. You don't have to say
a word. Just there are thoughts. There are thoughts that
are every one of those thoughts, every one of those feelings,
every one of those visions that you have in front
of you. You hear, what you see, all of that
that's all yours, and you can choose not to share

(29:08):
it with anybody right away or wherever. Can just be
something you tuck quietly into a little corner of your
brain and you hold on to for yourself, and you
drag back up when you're kind of feeling down. Yeah,
it's been a rough week, but remember that day when
I saw that mountain lion walking through the lease. Holy cow,
that was something else. Yeah, that's kind of cool. And

(29:29):
then you get distracted by the day you saw the
mountain lion, and all that bad stuff kind of gets
pushed back aside where it belongs. Where it belongs. It's
just a specific little snapshot in time that you might
never share it with anybody. Nobody might ever hear a
word about that. Or maybe you just wait until you're
talking with somebody and something reminds you of that time.

(29:52):
He or she or whoever you're with starts talking about
having a house cat once it got really really big,
and all of a sudden you think, well, yeah, you
talk about a big cat, I saw a mountain lion.
And maybe you share it with them, And maybe you
do it because that person might really understand and appreciate
what you saw or heard that day. It's all kinds

(30:12):
of kids have so many issues. I'm going to catch
Brandon real quick before we have to go to the
break and then we'll come back brand Oh wow, all
the way over there and it's not clicking him through
there we go, Brandon, what's up, buddy?

Speaker 7 (30:25):
Good morning, Good morning, how are you and how are you?

Speaker 2 (30:28):
We're good, We're good, man.

Speaker 7 (30:31):
How did you did you guess the targer game?

Speaker 2 (30:33):
I did not get to the end of it. I
got distracted by something else.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
How was it.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Who's hurt?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (30:44):
No, what he do?

Speaker 7 (30:47):
He he probably pulled something he's had.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Oh that's not good. That's not good at all. I
hate to hear that.

Speaker 7 (31:01):
Probably a handstring.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Oh that's horrible, that's horrible. How how did the game
end up.

Speaker 7 (31:09):
Without him?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah? They finished the game, I presume.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
So how who won Party two? Dodgers?

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Okay, yeah, I saw him when they were up for one. Okay,
So they take a nice little lead right back to
New York City, don't they.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yep, good for them.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
We're going to do for who you rooting for? Your
rooting for the Dodgers obviously, Yes, yeah, I kind of
am too, even though yeah, there's there's still the Dodgers.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
Man because from last night.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, he'll probably he'll. He should take a day off
if he's got anything going on. They need him at
one hundred and ten percent all the way through. Man,
you got any plans this weekend? I'm about out of time,
but I'm listening.

Speaker 7 (31:54):
We're going to the news on waiter today.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Oh wow, okay, that sounds like fun day. All right, man, Well,
I gotta run, Brandon, But thanks for calling Buddy, right yeah,
YouTube man, audios Okay, yeah, I can't click those O.
There we go, thank you. All right, we got to
take that break. We are Sports Talk seven ninety A.
Ready listen online at sports seven ninety dot com. Now more,

(32:23):
Doug Fike, Melvin. Can you see me with the camera. Yeah,
I thought so. I moved it around as much as
I could. If I left this studio the way it
looks now after, we're the way we had to jiggle
it when we started, I'd probably get screamed at by
I don't know now, Shawn and Brian would scream at me.

(32:44):
There's a couple of people who might get upset. But yeah,
I did. We're working what we got, man, come on, rain,
rainy night, rainy day. I don't care. As I talked
about it during the week, I said, look, I'd take
a couple of more days and ninety five degrees if
they came with an afternoon half inch shower. That makes sense,
that's fair. It would be a pretty good exchange. I think,

(33:05):
of course, we need some rain man desperately need rain.
If you love voice to text, you're gonna love Steve's
email he just sent me. And Melvin, you've been around
this show long enough. There's some of the members of
this audience. Before I get to the phone call, I'm
looking over at Allan and Kevin. I'll get to you

(33:25):
in just a second. Steve's email, I'm gonna read it,
and I'm gonna ask you to tell me what you
think is the word that's out of place here. Some
of the best memories of my life are in a
basketball with my best friend Frank. Are in a basket.
What it says here? We can spend hours on a
lake fishing, talking about everything from girls to cars to sports.

(33:48):
No phones in the seventies and eighties basketball, bass boat, Oh,
now it makes sense, bass boat. It would almost be
fun if there was a law that said, look, if
you're going to use voice to text, you can't change it.
You can't change it. If you see something wrong, you

(34:08):
can't do anything but live with it. Okay, let me
get to these calls. Alan, then Tom Ball Allan, Oh
you hit it? Alan, what's up?

Speaker 3 (34:17):
And the last time I tried that and it wasn't
to my daughter. I had to delete it.

Speaker 8 (34:22):
God idn't believe what it did.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, you got to be careful, man, because that stuff
gets out and you can't unring the bell.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
I don't know how.

Speaker 8 (34:33):
I don't know how these phones.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I guess they figured your voice different ways and sure
put out whatever they think. It's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
That's artificial intelligence for you. That's that's why they still
call it artificial because it's not all that smart.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Hey, did you ever work You never worked for the Post,
did you not?

Speaker 11 (34:49):
Not?

Speaker 2 (34:49):
One day?

Speaker 9 (34:50):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Never?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah? I didn't know what year did you go to
work for the chrdigle?

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Lord, late eighties, eighty eight, eighty nine. Maybe I was
there twenty three years ago?

Speaker 8 (35:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I mean me and my dad.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Used to sit down and he's the only human being
I know that will sit down and to this day
and read the chronicle from top to bottom and then
you know, and and that's it doesn't take.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Doesn't take as long to do it now as it
did then.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
So, so, uh.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Do you think deer?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
So they smell corn? I've heard this, So there smell
corn ten miles away.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
I'm like, no, they're not shot, I don't think so. Yeah,
they're not sharks, and corns not blood. So no, they
can't smell it ten miles away, but if they're in
the neighborhood, they can smell it. And we had a
little bit of discussion about this yesterday, how how the
the the scent of something is going to draw them
and they're not gonna They're not gonna come in. They're

(35:54):
not gonna do anything from ten miles away. They could
smell a birthday party ten miles away. A little kid
smell a birthday party ten miles away, he might go
try to get to it. But they can't smell that far,
and they're not going that far to do anything in
their lives. I think even during the run, ten miles
is too much to ask of a deer.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
I think, oh, well, yeah, common sense wise, exactly, they're
not as bid.

Speaker 8 (36:20):
You an article on attractids on what.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah track, Yeah, I'm sure I did probably ten, maybe
twenty over the.

Speaker 8 (36:32):
Years, and you never said, did you never save the articles?

Speaker 11 (36:36):
I have?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
My mother saved my articles and I actually have boxes
of them. She was cutting out. She was doing tear
sheets for me for twenty.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
Years, not to put them in a book and then
sell them for some charity.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
It'd be fun. Well, I appreciate that. Man, Hey, I
do need I need to catch Kevin before we get
to the breakout. Man thinks so much for the call out.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
It's great to hear.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, I'll talk about that a little bit. All right, man,
all right, let's get Kevin up here before we have
to run away. Kevin, what's up, buddy? How you doing?

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Doug?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I'm fine. You just calling to brag about that flounder? No, no,
I'll tell you where it's at. I mean, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
What a fish?

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah? Yeah, I sent you.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
Another text November night. The Sea Center, Texas they're having
a special Olympics fishing tournament, yeah, Texas Championship, and they're
looking for volunteers for people that can come down and
help them out.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I saw that and I was gonna yeah, I was
definitely gonna talk about it. So what how do they
How do people get in touch with Sea Center.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
To do that?

Speaker 5 (37:41):
There should be a contact number on the flyer that
I sent to you. Okay, okay, I don't have that number.
Just easily read, readily available.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, I got a hunch it. If anybody just went
ahead and searched Sea Center Texas uh more special Olympics fishing.
They'll find it. If they want to go, they'll find
a way to get there.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
I've worked it a couple of years ago, and it
was one of the most gratifying events I think I've
ever Oh, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Fortunately was off for two months quadruple bypass and used
up on my vacation and sick time and calm time,
so I'm not gonna be able to make it. Oh.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Man. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. For sure.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
For sure, I'm healed and back to work, so everything's good.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Good.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, I'm so glad to hear that. Man that anytime
somebody heals up, it makes me feel good. It really does. Yes,
it does, all right. Well, yeah, if.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
You're strong enough, you've got to get the break.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
You're strong enough to catch a twenty four inch flounder.
You're doing pretty good, man, Yes, sir. No, he's not
going to give you a spot, Melvin. No, I'm not
gonna let him. I'll send him somewhere else. Don't work, Kevin,
all right, man, I'll see you take audios. Oh. I
love hearing stories of people healing up. That's such such
good news. It's always good news.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
All right, real quick, This is the Doug Pike Show,
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Speaker 2 (39:11):
Nineteen eighty nine. Now here's Doug Pike. All right, second
hour starts now. Thank you all for listening. I certainly
do appreciate it. I want to get into boy a
lot of things. I want to go back to kids though,
And it's it's darn near opening day. We've got a
week left. If there's something else you need to do,
at the least, you better hide tail it out there
today because you need to put in a full week

(39:32):
of work so that you can sneak out maybe early
Friday and get a head start on the traffic out
of town. If you don't think it's a thing, just
go sit up on iten headed west out around oh
get out of Houston so you don't have to bother
with traffic getting back. But just kind of camp out
out there and watch how many pickup trucks hauling four

(39:53):
wheelers all the they're loaded down, loaded down with ice chifts,
dragon war wheelers, dragon still, dragon blinds. Probably if you
were to go out there today and watch what's going
out I ten or down fifty nine towards South Texas.
This is there. Anybody who's not got their stuff done
now is gonna have to throw hell Mary and hope

(40:15):
they can get it all done? Is they're not gonna
there's no choice come next Saturday morning.

Speaker 10 (40:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
That one of the things that kids face when they're
trying to get introduced or well not the kids. One
of the hurdles, let's call it, that kids have to
jump when they're being introduced to the outdoors is what
is at the house in many cases just almost an

(40:43):
addiction to electronics. If they're not playing a video game,
or they're not looking at Snapchat or Instagram or what
are the some of the new ones, Melvin, is there
any are there any new apps that kids are on
now more than others or do you know, well, I
know they play this fortnight like crazy still. Yes, it's

(41:04):
it's just banana. Oh my word. Yeah, my son was
into that during the pandemic and he was actually playing
a lot with his cousin over in South Carolina. But
since then he's kind of weaned himself off of it.
He'll play there's a baseball game he plays. I don't
know which one it is, but it's remarkably it's remarkably
accurate and remarkably well programmed. I guess that's the word

(41:28):
for it, the software, for the pro for the game.
But it's still just a game. And they just don't
learn how to do anything in the outdoors by sitting
inside doing that. They just they and they. One of
the biggest issues I have with at least observing my
son in social media is they've all all these young

(41:51):
teenagers and older teenagers even they've got this fear of
missing out, that foamo thing that if they're not on
all the time, they're going to miss something that's monumental
in their lives. And the irony is that being on
social media all the time is exactly what's gonna keep

(42:14):
them from witnessing or experiencing something that could be monumental
in their life when they start looking back. I can't
think of anybody I know who will look back. Young
people I know. I work with a lot of young
people here. I know a lot of young people who
are the children and grandchildren of friends of mine, my peers,

(42:40):
and I can't think of any of them that say,
you know, I wish I'd spent more time on social
media when I was a kid. That's just not there
and a big mistake that some parents make. And boy,
I've seen this on fishing trips. I've seen it on
hunting trips. If you're making a long drive somewhere to

(43:04):
get to the hunting lease or the fishing camp or whatever,
then your kids want to play with an electronic device
in the car while you're driving there. That's cool. I
don't have a problem with that. Keeps the peace. But
once you get there, once you get in that boat,
once you get to deer camp, the electronics need to
be turned off unless they are looking at something that

(43:28):
requires a business decision, which no child should be doing.
And that's the distinction between grown ups checking email and
kids playing Fortnite. That it should. There's a game and
then there's business, and sometimes, unfortunately these days, business creeps

(43:48):
into your personal time. I'm a prime example of that.
The only day I take off is Friday, and because
it's a workday for everybody else, it's sometimes hard for
me to set that boundary, and that's self inflicted. I
can't do anything about that, and I'm not gonna worry
about that. But the bottom line is these kids need

(44:09):
to learn that the value in going on this hunting
trip with dad or uncle or grandmother or whoever's gonna
be there, The value is in those people you're gonna
be with, not in anything that they're gonna find online.
They don't need to do that. They don't need to

(44:30):
do that, and they just don't understand. And like we
talked about a little while ago, the value of keeping
things to yourself sometimes and just just cherishing a very
private moment. I saw a mountain lion, like I talked
about before, or I had this giant fish on my line,
but it broke off or the hook came out or whatever.

(44:54):
If that happens, and it's happens amongst other people, so great,
they're that memory too, and you can always recall that
and talk about it. But if it happens to you
when you're sitting there by yourself. I'm speaking to the
adults in the audience now, don't be in such a
big hurry to just post that online. You had a

(45:16):
great day on the water. Don't take one hundred pictures
and put ninety of them online. But maybe a couple
of pictures up there that had a great day today.
Wish you're here. That's enough. Nobody else really wants to
know what you did, because they're too busy trying to
get their own picture put up. Adults need to learn

(45:37):
some of this as well. Too much of a good
thing social media. It entraps us into putting too much
of a good thing out there for everybody to see.
When not everybody gives a tinker's ding dong, they just don't.
I found over time too, when it's ironic saying this

(45:59):
from a position I'm sitting in. When I say it,
you'll understand why. But the quieter somebody is during a
meeting or a party and they're just kind of they're
they're mingling, but they're not dominating a conversation. They've probably
got a lot to say. They probably got a lot

(46:20):
to say if somebody would just ask them what they
think instead of continuing to say what what? Just this
idle blabber and chatter that comes out of a lot
of people's mouths and situations like that, It's okay, and
this is something else that this whole world of ours
to stop doing. And I'll get off my soapbox. In
just a second. But we've become frightened of daring to

(46:47):
throw an opinion out there that might not be deemed
politically correct. You know, thank you Melvin for that. And
that's what that's what this country was formed on free speech,
because the more you talk about things, the more you
share feelings amongst people without getting enraged, without grabbing a

(47:10):
bullharn and shouting expletives at somebody, without throwing paint on them,
or with just just a conversation. That's all it is,
is a conversation. And if you have this conversation with people,
and I've had to deal with this, and I'll tell
you who was the best at it I've ever seen

(47:31):
in a second, but when I've gone to outdoor shows
and stuff like that, there's always almost always one or
two people walking around there ask why do you hunt?
Why do you kill animals? Why do you eat animals?
Why do you all these things that we do? And frankly,
it's because they're very tasty and they're renewable resource. They're

(47:53):
a crop, if you will, biological crop. And as long
as you take care of that land aka the world
water with fish and the land with other animals and
make sure that the animals that are out there are
healthy and not overpopulated to the point where they might
have to deal with disease or starvation. Then it's a
renewable resource. It's a fantastic source of protein. And it's

(48:16):
fun to go do it and bring these animals home
and they get all worked up and they start yelling
at you. As soon as they start yelling at you,
you got them, because that means they have nothing else.
They don't have facts to tell you. They don't have
any statistics they can cite that unless they just make
them up and pull them out of thin air. They
have nothing except yelling to make their point. And if

(48:40):
somebody starts yelling at you, it's very uncomfortable. But if
you can stand it and they're accusing you of all
kinds of horrible things just because you like to hunter fish,
you just stand there and take it and let them
yell and scream. They'll get tired of it, they'll grow
weary of having to use all that volume and breathing

(49:02):
all that air to make all that countless pitiful noise
that they make. And then just stand there and wait
for him to walk away. Because if you run away
or if you start shouting back at them, then they're
in control. That puts them in control. The best I
ever saw at this no fooling. And I've been around
this man probably ten twelve times, in everything from sitting

(49:28):
around his hotel room and talking to him and his wife,
to having breakfast with him down at a hotel in
clear Lake one time, to being on a deer hunt
with the guy Ted Nugent. Ted Nugent will stand there
and let somebody just go off on him and start
spouting out numbers and what they think are facts and figures,

(49:51):
and once they have to stop and take a breath,
he'll just say, Okay, look, well, actually, here's what the
truth is. Here's my source, and it's always better than theirs.
It's always something that that guy does more research in
the name of conservation and hunting and good stewardship of
the land than anybody I've ever seen. He knows what

(50:14):
he's talking about, and a lot of people just dismiss
him because he's a rock and roller and he's got
long hair, and he'll he'll fire a cuss word or
two at you, but he knows what he's talking about,
and he doesn't scream he doesn't scream, and that's what
makes him as effective.

Speaker 10 (50:29):
As he is.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Man, I went all, I touched all the bases there. Hum, Melvin, Well,
you know, I don't even remember what we were talking
about when I started this. Probably kids, Yeah, it's always kids.
I do like that term you use, biological crop. Yeah,
I like what it is. Thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (50:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
That the no video games too. Once you're on the
deer leaves or on the boat, put the games away,
lock them away somewhere and let that child. Force that
child if you have to. You don't have to. You
don't have to duck take them, duck tape them to
the blind, but just encourage them to go without. Maybe
offer some sort of reward. Hey, man, if you can

(51:07):
go without your iPad for the whole time we're here,
or your phone or whatever it is while we're on
the boat, while we're on in the deerstand, then I'll
reward you with something. And kids always want something, so
maybe that'll work. All right, We got to take a
little break here. Your rockets and astros live here. We
are Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 9 (51:28):
The conversation continues this as The Doug Pike Show nine
on Sports Talk.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Seven to ninety The Doug Pike Show. Thanks you listening.
I want to say, you take a little break here
from kids and opening days and whatnot, and go back
to golf for a little bit, if you don't mind.
The Zozo Championship all the way over there in Japan
has concluded, and the man who won it is the
man who was leading yesterday, Nico E Shavaria. He wound

(51:57):
up shooting twenty under Paul for the four rounds and
even in this fall kind of an awkward event where
it's not a super big field. I was a little
shocked to realize that he had earned a million and
a half dollars and thirty thousand more one point five

(52:18):
to three million for the win. I wish, I sure
wish my son would go back into golf for a
little bit. He's got the skills, he has the talent
to play really well, but he's focused on baseball. And
I told myself and I told my wife, the best
thing we can do is not interfere right now, not

(52:39):
force him into a sport. Let him play the sport
he wants. He could come back to golf, I think,
and kind of find his way back into the mix.
But right now he's all about baseball and whatever camp
he's in, I'm in as far as his athletics go.
I want him to put everything he's got into it.
If he's being forced to do something, he's not going

(53:01):
to do it right. So at Chavaria is there, he
makes a million and a half. Justin Thomas and Max
Greiserman Grazerman, excuse me, both gave it all they had.
They made up ground. They finished one shot back at
nineteen to tie for second. Ricky Fowler all alone in fourth,
made a good check. He shot seventeen under par for

(53:24):
the four days. And it just goes down and down
and down from there. At Chiavaria moved himself up from
one hundred and thirteenth in the FedEx Cup Fall Series
points to sixty fifth. And why he's not a little
higher than that, I'm not really sure. List goes on
and on. There was a great tournament. I got to

(53:45):
watch a little bit of it. Beautiful golf course. I
heard some discussion this morning. By the way, I want
to shift over to this for a minute. There was
discussion this morning on a show that I listened to
on Sunday mornings on the way in on the uh
serious XM Golf channel or PGA Tour Network. Pardon me

(54:06):
and the two guys there are a couple of crusty
old pros. They are country club guys who really do
understand the game. Well, they're excellent instructors. Oh time out.
Let me go get this phone call. First phone calls
over over me, chattering all the time. Fire him up,
let's go, folk pro. What's up buddy?

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Hey, speaking of golf, I didn't know you were apt
your chickery video taking me on the golfer.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
You like that?

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, that's pretty funny. Yeah, yeah. If anybody wants to
see what we're laughing about here, look up, what would
you think golfer hits bird funny? And try to work
the word funny in there, and I think you'll see it.
It's pretty dog on. But it really is.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Episode ago.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Oh man, holy cow. But they yeah, they took it
to an extreme. It's pretty funny. So are you gonna
be a Are you gonna be a golfer? You just
still going to be a bass fisherman. Well, I'm going
to try to be a scratch golfer. I'm gonna try
to do a little bit of golfer.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Well, if I could do half as good as I
do on Golf Clash every weekend, shoot shoot twenty three
to twenty seven under a golf class. So if I
could do half a good of that, I'd probably be
a PGA Tour pro.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
But yeah, yeah, no, he just stick to faux pro. Man,
it's golf. I've talked about this guy years ago. There
was an employee here who grabbed me in the coffee
room over at the old building talked about how he was.
He was like forty seven years old and he's getting
his game tuned up because he's thinking about taking a
swing at the pgare at the Champions Tour, the Senior Tour.

(55:41):
And I said, what kind of scores are you shooting?
He goes, I don't know, like mid eighties right now.
And I said, buddy, you realize you're going to have
to be playing against guys like Bernhard Longer, Ernie Els,
Phil Mickelson, and he yeah, man, but you know, if
I just work at it, I can get it dialed in.
Won't you to aim a little lower?

Speaker 4 (56:01):
Now?

Speaker 2 (56:01):
This here's what I want you to do, faux pro,
so you don't get yourself discouraged, aim a little lower. Okay,
just to go out and have fun playing golf, because
if you let, if you let any aspiration of even
being the club champion where you play, it's gonna take
a while and it's gonna frustrate you, and you're gonna
sell your bass boat and buy golf lessons from lane.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
So that ain't no lie. I'm the first person at
the world laughing myself. So you know, if it takes me,
you know, I'll just call everything a part ten and
if I should have wanted, I'll call it good.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yeah, you're good.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
I like that, you know.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
And that's not a bad idea. Like I've said, if
you feel like you're slowing the group down, just put
the ball in your pocket and say, well, I'll start
over on the next tee. Don't give yourself a chance
to feel bad about your game, because most people's games
are way worse than they think they are. Anyway.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Oh yeah, a distance, if it takes amount of distance
off the green, I'm just like, you know what, I'm
not looking for that just right here.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah, just be sure, just bring like bring just like
a bushel basket full of golf balls every time you
play exactly exactly. I played down in uh Hawaii years
ago on a Princeville resort course and the head pro
came out before it was a media trip. And the
head pro comes out and he's got a bush old basket. No,
he's got a cardboard box full of golf balls. Said, hey, man,

(57:25):
y'all might want to grab some of these before you go.
It's just pretty tight out there, and we're all egoed
up and on. No, man, we're good, we'll be all right,
and so help me. Every one of us went looking
for that guy when we made the turn, because oh
my man, yeah it was pretty tight. Pretty tight. Yeah,
it was how fishing fishing?

Speaker 3 (57:45):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (57:46):
It was an interesting day. I fished Friday at Kerth
and I got out there and I went to a
place I thought I could wreck them on top water earlier,
and nothing was happening. So I turned on my electronics
and looked. I wasn't looking for fish. I was looking
to see whether therma flying was and I couldn't find
the thermaiclid. That was a lake guy up. I realized
this lake was turning over. I was like, oh, no,
here we go. So I did the first thing I

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always do. I went I went extreme shallow. I forget
the ecosystem there transfers quicker, and there's always bass and
five foot of water shadow. I don't care if you're
sure lake erie. So I went shallow and started punching
a little white swim bait or you know, most people
punch a jig and stuff like that. But bass on
shad right now, Yeah, no doubt. I punch a little white,
three inch white shad bait and started throwing a frog

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and ended up catching about twenty twenty two baths.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
So dang, good for you.

Speaker 5 (58:35):
Man.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Explain Melvine just asked, and you can probably explain it
better than I can. I used to write about it,
and I'd always have somebody explain it to me. Then
I'd quickly write for my notes, turn it over. What
does that mean on a bass lake oxygen break?

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Yeah, oxygen level and temperature.

Speaker 10 (58:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
So when that when that, when that temperature changes, that
hot water starts to go to the bottom of it.
It loosens up all that sediment and crude on the bottom.
That's what you see stuff like you know kirk Lake
when it was the water was stained, only had five
foot visibility and that may sound like a lot, but
this is lake that's got twenty foot visibility normally. Yeah,
So it's that transition of that water temperature turning over
and it sucks all that muck up off the bottom

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and it takes a while for it to settle. So
I'll probably shoot something next week in a sugar fishing.
But but when you say that turnover, it's tough. And
every fish that I caught, even on a frog, it
was like when I was obviously when you're punching, it's
it's you're dropping it on their nose.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Yeah, yeah, I caught nothing, mid retrieve, nothing. Halfway back
to the boat, I threw the frog out there first
twitch boom, flip it first twitch boom.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
So it was it was tough. I mean, you say
you caught twenty two fish, it's it's a perception of
what lake you're fishing.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
I was going to say on a lake, fish on
that lake where you normally would catch how many thirty forty?

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Well, the previous trip we caught sixty plus and we
stopped counting.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Good golly, Yeah that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Only two sounds good, but you compare it to the
premut trip, before the lake full turnover.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Yeah, that's how it was on that little golf course
lake that I fished for so long and had so
much fun on with my son. And I'm so glad
we got that too, because the bass are on shad
right now, and so are the cormorants.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
There's about four hundred of them there right now, and
they're just eating it all man. Every time, every time
there's a shad hatch they show up. It's incredible. I
don't know who's leading them, all right, pro well, good luck, man, Yeah,
good luck.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
We're gonna get out there next week. Try to shoot
a duck or two, maybe a boy up where you
are either where I'm at him. My nephew's got some
some private ponds over there in the Schullenberg area on
one of his poems in the backyard, and I doesn't
see it comfortable at my age.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Just sit on the back porch and whack them. Oh man, cool,
all right, thanks for us. That's good to hear from you, buddy.
All right, yeah, iudios. Yeah, that's something when when that
water temperature changes like that, it's almost like it's the
lake is folding itself. And I don't know what. I
don't know why it does that, what natural benefit is

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derived from that, but it it happens. It happens for sure.
And when that water turns over and that temperature changes
and that thermocline moves like it does, then it's just
I guess it's just like nature shuffling the deck to
make sure that everything keeps keeps going forward the way
it's supposed to. There's so much we can learn, so

(01:01:27):
much more we can learn, and the more technology would get,
the faster we can learn. But I almost I almost
think it was more it was more fun the old
fashioned way. It's it's more efficient the new way with
all the electronics. You just flip a switch. You Oh,
there's a big bass right there, look at there. But
the old way, hey, there might be a big bass

(01:01:49):
next to that stump. And the mystery and the wonder
was a big part of it. That's that's been taken
out now for a lot of people. I'd still you
can turn all that stuff off. Once we get to
where we're going to fish, you can turn it off,
and I'll pitch to everything I can see and even
to things that I imagine are under the water. All right,
back to hunting season opening next week.

Speaker 9 (01:02:11):
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Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Now now get more?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Doug Well played Melvin all the way through. Man, I
wish it would rain. I do, But in moderation, you
gotta be careful what you wish for around here. You
start wishing for rain, it may never stop, man, that's
for sure. Yeah, neighbor building a park. Holy cow, let's

(01:02:41):
let's go get Allen up here.

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
For me, will you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
What is up Allan?

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Hey, Doug, I'm sorry for calling you back. I just
had a I had a quick question. I got a
ping on my phone to one of my featers, and uh,
I guess there's a game word question, which sometimes don't
make a lot of sense. But anyway, so I've got
a deer, your typical East Texas deer that they got

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them tall right up?

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yeah, top hats here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
And I know the law says they got to be
outside of the years.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I think it's fourteen inches. I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 7 (01:03:20):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
I think it's thirteen. But anyway, Okay, so I understand
that for South Texas and then maybe Central Texas, But.

Speaker 10 (01:03:31):
I mean, what do you do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
What do you do about that? Is probably three or
four years old.

Speaker 8 (01:03:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
The issue with the minimum antler spread is for me anyway,
is that what what they're trying to do is is
bring back bigger, wider bucks. Okay, they're trying to get
that out of there, but if you if they have
to be bigger than that to shoot them, then that

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deer gets several opportunities to breed with the dose just
raise more top hat box and yeah, I'm kind of
with you. I don't know there, I'm not sure that
was one of the best ways to approach that problem.
And one of the problems techn me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
I could hear it from Central Texas south, but you know,
when you start going east and get them what you
call which I've never heard that term, but top hat butt.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Yeah, yeah, man, what do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
I mean, what do you you kind of you kind
of get get get shafted and that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Yeah, if you can't, yeah, if you can't take them
out of the breeding population, how are you gonna eliminate
that genetic trait? And you can't. I'm kind of with
you on that one. That one always kind of made
me scratch my head a little bit, and I got
some game warning buddies. Maybe one of them listening and
wants to talk about it. But and I got I
know a couple of guys who are dear breeders. I

(01:04:55):
might try and dig something up on that during the
week and hit it again next week.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Yeah, I'm just I'm just kind of just I just
got to thinking about that when I saw that picture.
I saw, boy, that's gonna be a nice deer, and
then I got to make him wait a minute, it
ain't gonna be a nice deer because I can't shoot it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
It's I was just thinking about something kind of funny, uh,
the way that that you could start at least change
those deer. If we could do with with bucks, what
what parents do with young children whose teeth are a
little crooked and catch that buck as those antlers are
coming out, and putting braces on them and spread them

(01:05:31):
out a little bit as they grow. Yeah, this make them,
make them twenty inches wide, twenty five whatever it takes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
And then just take you know, you almost you almost
got to think. I mean, if you look at them
top had Bucks and you look at East Texas, you
almost think that was that was a design God created
a billion years ago away for some reason, you got
you got a wide racked deer trying to run through
East Texas. He's gonna get knocked out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. He doesn't have a
change to me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
It's like, okay, that's that's a design because of the
because of the thickness of East Texas as their k
just run through the woods with a wide rack without
getting knocked out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Well, that's a very good point. Yeah, because it's not
just a little mesquite limbs they're gonna hit. They're gonna
be hitting pine trees with that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Why exactly right, boy, you brought up something.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
I hadn't thought about. You really did. That's that may
be a genetic trait that's been developed over five hundred years.
Who knows? Get them?

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Because I guess those are the minerals or vitamins in
that part of the country. You know, who knows. I'm
not a biologist. Somebody might know an answer.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
You're pretty smart.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
I like that idea. I'm going with it until somebody
proves us wrong. Let's go with that. How about that?
That was good? Thank you audios. Wow, that honestly, that
had not crossed my mind. You know, East Texas got
a lot of it's not called the piney woods for nothing.
There are no palm trees in East Texas, so that

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may when you think about how bucks manage to run
through the brush of South Texas, even with those wide racks,
it's because they're not trying to get them past many
big solid trees. That just hitting limbs that are kind
of sprouting off of mesquite trees and prickly pear. That's

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about all it's down there much anymore. And it'd be
hard to run through a forest of pines, even sapling
pines that start getting a little bit too close together
some If you got twenty five thirty inches of antlers wide,
that's gonna knock your head off when you hit one

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of those. That's really really interesting. I'm gonna have to
put a lot of thought into that.

Speaker 10 (01:07:55):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
That's gonna distract me all weekend long. I'm gonna be
thinking about that.

Speaker 7 (01:08:00):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
If anybody thinks that's crazy, let me know, because it
has a better, better idea of why that's happening. I
want to know. Yeah, let me let me catch this.
Go ahead, Let's catch this from real quick before I
go to break, David, what's up, man?

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
Yeah, real quickly, Doug.

Speaker 11 (01:08:16):
While we're talking about kids in safety and that kind
of thing, I had an epiphany of sorts.

Speaker 6 (01:08:21):
Years ago.

Speaker 11 (01:08:22):
I took an ATV safety course. I had to take
it because at that time, if you wanted to use
your ATV on public land, and that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:28):
May still be the case, you had to have an
ATV safety course.

Speaker 10 (01:08:32):
Doug.

Speaker 11 (01:08:32):
There are things in that course that I used today
as an adult, and unfortunately, they're probably going to be
a kid hurt opening weekend on an ATV, right and
that that is something that the parents have.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
To be reminded of.

Speaker 11 (01:08:48):
They are not babysitters and h anyway, so I know
you're getting ready for a break point many.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
That's always welcome, thank you, David, all right, man, Yeah,
babysitting is what a lot of it happened. That's what
the ATV becomes. It becomes a babysitter. Just like David said,
go right on the ATV for a while, you guys,
be careful now, and kids are gonna be kids, and

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if they can feel comfortable at twenty miles an hour,
they're going to want to try to feel comfortable at
twenty five or thirty or forty, and a lot of
these machines will do a lot more speed than kids
should ever be asked to handle. You have to have
upper body strength, you have to have common sense, you
have to have a lot of things that teenagers and

(01:09:38):
even younger kids. I've seen pretty young kids on these
things and doing some pretty dopey things. All right, we're
gonna take this last break in the program. When we
get back, I'm gonna slip over to golf again for
just a minute and talk about golf ball selection. I
heard something really interesting about that on the PGA Tour
Network this morning, and I'm gonna share what I hear

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from those guys I mentioned earlier when we get back.

Speaker 9 (01:10:03):
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Speaker 7 (01:10:09):
Friends.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
You've got to try the conversation continues. This as the
Doug Fight Show. All right, welcome back, Well done, Melvin.
All the way through the show man, every one of
the breaks. Rain, rain, Rain, come on, rain, come on,
please rain. I got a text message during the break
here from a guy I have known since the two

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of us were in diapers over in Sharpstown. David Crawford,
haven't talked to him in a long time. He sent
me a text with a picture of his ten year
old grandson and their Golden retriever heading through West Texas
on the way to an l hunt up in Colorado.

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And he's got a big old ATV on the trailer
behind the truck. And so, yeah, I thought he was listening.
Heard me talking about that a minute ago. Great to
hear from you, man, it really is. Let me go
talk to Joe. I see we can get him kicked
up here and then maybe I'll get to my golf thing.
What's up, Joe, Joe, Hey.

Speaker 10 (01:11:11):
Doug, this is Joe. Don't say you've never been asked
to go bass fishing feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Oh yeah, man, good to hear from you.

Speaker 10 (01:11:21):
Thirteen inches spread in East Texas.

Speaker 6 (01:11:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:11:24):
The reason, the reason they implemented that was to bring
back the buck population in East Texas and not to
necessarily make it wider.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
That's your point, Yeah, it.

Speaker 10 (01:11:35):
Was to It was to solve the if it's brown,
it's down.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yeah, boy.

Speaker 10 (01:11:41):
Yeah, because in East Texas, where I've been hunting for
the last thirteen years, there is no ruts. There is
no rut. The minute the first dough comes into esters,
the buck starts breeding and he'll breed everything he can
breed until he until season is out. Yeah okay, because
there's da ain't enough bucks over.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
There to do it.

Speaker 7 (01:12:04):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (01:12:04):
Okay, so that's what that's all about. It ain't for
thirteen inch wide. You've got to leave them, leave them
alone long enough for him to grow up. Basically, well, yeah,
that's true, that thirteen inch wide, but he'll grow to
fourteen in the fourteen and a half, maybe maybe even
fifteen if you leave him a little long enough.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Well how how how practical is that in East Texas up?

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (01:12:28):
If you? Uh, well, it's better where we hunt.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Yeah, a good point because.

Speaker 10 (01:12:34):
We we we know the game wardens, and we take
things into our own hands and we help keep the
thirteen inch rule in place. And uh that that that
that helps your overall area that you're hunting. And yeah,
so it's it's it's working pretty well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
So the question that Alan, the thought that Alan proposes,
maybe those those top hat racks, those straight up racks,
and I've seen a bunch of them, man, Maybe that's
just maybe because it would be harder to run through
pine forests with thirty inch wide antlers. I think so
possibly maybe genetically over six hundred years or something.

Speaker 10 (01:13:13):
No, it ain't gonna take that long.

Speaker 8 (01:13:15):
It won't take that long.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
But I mean, you know, do you think that's why
they have those straight up racks? Yeah, it is okay,
that makes sense.

Speaker 10 (01:13:26):
Good, but but you know its song will take you know,
it'll it'll take another ten years or so, and a
lot of that. Of course, some of those deers just
that way, and it takes them longer to grow. I mean,
the one of the interesting things about East Texas is
not only on body size, but on horn width and
height on those deer. After a while, you can begin

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to tell how old a deer is over there just
by the horns he's got, because they don't have the
same nutrition that they have down in southwk Centle Texas. Yeah,
and and because of that, it takes them a little
bit longer to little better set of horns. But you
can you can actually tell by the town of horns
they have what their age is almost all right, most

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Yeah that's not all the time. It's not one hundred percent,
but it's it's pretty close.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
I bet it is. Chill the That's a good dear
from you.

Speaker 10 (01:14:19):
Man, hey, man, take care of you.

Speaker 8 (01:14:21):
You're doing a good job.

Speaker 10 (01:14:22):
And don't I guess you're not killing too many of
them ducks and geese and know anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Not as many as I used to. Man, Holy cow,
we burn some powder back in the day.

Speaker 10 (01:14:33):
Did never didn't everybody out there and kill.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Yeah, we had a loss of shoe at all. Right, man,
I'll see you audios. Wow, I hadn't talked to him
in a very long time. That was a good conversation too. Okay,
So now we've got three people who are convinced that
those deer have those tall antlers so they don't bump
into pine trees when they're running through the forest trying
to get away from us. East Texas is a different animal.

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It's a different animal all it was known for years ago,
many years ago, And I do believe that this reputation
has changed over the past twenty years. I'm sure there's
still pockets of otherwise. But back twenty thirty forty years ago,
East Texas was known for a little bit of lawlessness

(01:15:21):
when it came to hunting seasons and hunting dates or hunting,
just law abiding hunting. There were problems over there. There's
no question about it that hunting and fishing, there was
very little regard given to the laws about limits on fish,
about limits on deer, and if somebody just felt like

(01:15:44):
taking a deer, they'd take a deer no matter what
month it was. There's an old joke about Occajun going
into the local judge's office asking if he could declare
a longer hunting season by one month for ducks. He said,
I want, I need another month on the duck hunting season.
We don't have enough. Now, he goes, what are you

(01:16:06):
gonna name it? You're already hunting all twelve of them.
We got, Oh, there's that you like that moment? Yeah,
you're already hunting them the twelve. We know you're gonna
have to name it something anyway. Now, I believe East Texas,
most of the people who are hunting it are paying
more attention and working, just like Joe is, to get

(01:16:30):
that population back to where they've got some better bucks
running around and more bucks running around. The buck to
dough ratio, as Joe mentioned, I believe it's still pretty sideways,
and so the few bucks that are out there, all
the game wardens are, and the law is trying to
do with that thirteen inch wide deal is make sure

(01:16:52):
that more bucks can at least get a couple of
years into the breeding cycle before they get taken out.
Is it already okay? All right, I'm gonna punch my
ticket here, and I don't even have to look outside
to know that the weather's gonna be good again. It
was still kind of damp this morning, but hey, that's

(01:17:13):
this is southeast Texas. Unless we get a north wind
again sometime soon, it's gonna be that. I did check
the forecast and I'm looking at hold on, i gotta
scroll down real quick. There is a chance of rain somewhere.
It's all the way down to Wednesday. Wednesday ten percent,
Thursday thirty, Friday thirty. Maybe we'll get some, maybe we won't.

(01:17:33):
Who cares. Come next Saturday, it'll be opening Day, and
whatever we get we will take. Stay outdoors as long
as you can, have as much fun as you can,
but do it all safely. Please. I want every one
of you back here next week so we can do
this all over again and talk about the stuff we love.
That's it for me. I'll see you next week. Thanks
for listening. Audios