The Doug Pike Show 8-3-2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Doug Pike Show, brought to you by
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now here's dog Pike. All right, here we go. Saturday
morning starts right now, and it's not a bad Saturday morning.
It wasn't raining when I left Shoreland anyway.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Allegedly allegedly A I think it was a thirty forty
percent chance of some showers today. But the way I
look at that, honestly, don't you know, don't change your
plans until you have to turn on the windshield wipers. Okay,
because this thirty forty whatever chance of rain is, it's

(00:45):
just a chance. And they're trying to is it that's
doing it right now, isn't it. It's going back and
my headphones are going in and out.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's so crazy. All right, Well it's working though. Apparently
it's working out there, and that's what's what's important. That
I get to communicate with you. That means I can
hear you and you can hear me. But sometimes it
kind of fritters and fritzes in this studio. Oh what
excitement this always is. You just never know what we're
going to come in here with to find and I don't.

(01:17):
It's so random too there, it's just so much. There
are so many signals and things going on in here,
if you stop and think about it, Melvin, really, the
the technology in this studio, just in this studio is
probably greater than what we needed to get somebody to
the moon and back fifty sixty years ago. Whenever it

(01:39):
was sixty years ago. Yeah, holy cal seven one three
two one two five seven ninety. Email me Doug Pike
at iHeartMedia dot com. That's easy enough to do, and
feel free to add to the program. Feel free to
send me down a rabbit hole somewhere if there's something
you want to know about, I would be happy to

(02:00):
help you with it. And if I don't know the answer,
which is often the case, but if I don't know
the answer, I probably know someone who does. And that's
what makes it fun to be in here, because I
get to learn as well as you about something that
is going to be of interest to both of us.
It's very simple that way. I've got a good interview

(02:23):
coming up today. By the way, you have his number, right, Melvin,
Oh my word, Okay, I'll take care of that. I'll
take care of that during the break. That shouldn't be hard.
We're gonna be talking to Cowboys Zamanski. That's the guy
who runs Phoenix Knives out in Belleville and Phoenix Knives,
if you're unfamiliar, is the store that well, it's got

(02:46):
a cool history and I'm gonna let cowboy tell you
about it, but I will tell you that the knives
he makes are just unsurpassed. He was one of the blacksmiths,
well knife makers selected to be on the first season
of Forged in Fire, which if you haven't ever seen

(03:07):
the show, that's something else that's pretty cool to look
at as well. I think it's still on in reruns
at least if it's not in new episodes. Something needed
to dust that off the console. It didn't belong there.
We'll just leave it at that doesn't matter. Like I said,
slight chance of rain, no big deal. And after that,

(03:29):
after we get through chances for rain Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
it is smooth sailing, summertime, sunshine all the way through
the rest of the week. I think I want to
put my safety sam hat on right now. And remind
I got to talk about this twice during the week
on fifty plus, because well, there are two occasions when

(03:51):
I needed to bring it up, and that pertains to
the general displacement of wildlife behind not only Hurricane Barrel
when it came barreling through here, but also by that
week of rain that followed shortly thereafter. Didn't think it

(04:11):
would ever stop raining, and we had street flooding, we
had creaks rising again from just as the hurricane water
had all sort of drained off. Then we go to
this thing and twice I was reminded this week that
when the water comes up, animals get displaced. The first

(04:34):
time was Tuesday, and that wasn't so well, that that
was the one that could have had the worst outcome. Actually,
I was gonna say it wasn't that bad, but it was. Indeed,
it was bad. It could have been bad, but it
worked out Okay. So I'm out at my little favorite
fishing spot and the day prior I had been out there,

(04:59):
and in the wake of that big, big final rain
we had, there was water pouring out of the lake
across a spillway and into a little feeder piece. I
believe it is a oyster creeker. It actually may be
an arm of Oyster Creek. I'll have to look at
the map sometime. But the first day, when I saw

(05:21):
that there was a carp, about a four four pound carp,
I would say, pinned to the debris by the rushing water.
And I don't know that that one made it. There
was actually another one on the body of the spillway physically,
and it was doing its best impression of a salmon
trying to make it back to its spawning grounds. This

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thing was swimming for all it's worth. And I actually
tried to snag the thing and pick it up and
put it back into the lake, but it was it
just wasn't having any of that, and I didn't have
the right gear on to actually do that. What I
had on there wasn't going to snag anything. Unfortunately. The
bottom line was that one went tumbling over the debris

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and whatnot and into it is probably living out its
happy life now in the nice calm waters of Oyster Creek.
As I the next day, I went back, and I
was just curious to see whether that first carp, that
smaller one had either gotten away or been washed away
or whatever. And as I walked down and around to

(06:30):
take a look, I wasn't paying attention to where I
was walking for about two steps. I took two steps
without checking and almost paid a price for it. I
looked down. I was looking to my right as the
water flowed right to left, and I'm just looking at
this water flowing right to left. And as I get

(06:52):
down toward that debris stack where that fish had been
the day prior, in my peripheral vision down toward the ground,
I catch movement like, huh, I wonder what that is.
And I looked down and so helped me. I had
put a foot down within a shoe length or so

(07:17):
of a cotton mouth, no question about it. I know
what I was looking at, and I just froze and
I looked back down, and fortunately for me, the snake
was as disinterested in me as I was in being
bitten by it, and it just kind of slithered on

(07:38):
under the bridge and disappeared. I had no way of
out there, even where there are a lot of little
kids and there are a lot of people walking around
in the grass. I'm not uncomfortable dispatching a venomous snake.
All the rest of them get passes. And that's coming up.

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If we had one to get a pass yesterday. So anyway,
I lived through the incident where I just darn near
stepped on a cotton mouth. I'm talking about within a foot,
there's no question about it, and I just got lucky.
If i'd have stepped six inches left or right or
actually tapped that thing on the head, I'd have probably
taken a good strong bite. And I was just about

(08:21):
as far from the clubhouse as I possibly could have been,
so it would have been a difficult ride back. So
flashed forward to yesterday afternoon, and I went back out
there in hopes of treating a new friend, a guy
named John Paulus, one of the nicest guys. He and
his wife and one of the nicest guys. When it

(08:45):
got out that I was looking for a place to
stay during the hurricane, my wife, I'd put her in
a hotel room. And the problem is that we snore,
or I snore, not her, No, not her. She hoped
she didn't hear that. But I snore like a bear.
I've talked about it before, and it's just I've done
all I can. I'm not having any luck getting rid
of it. Bottom line is, I'm kind of looking for

(09:08):
a place because the house now is about a million
degrees inside, and John heard about it, sends me an
email says, hey, man, got plenty of room over here.
You can have your own room upstairs. We sleep downstairs,
not going to bother anybody. Snore all you want. And
he put me up for three nights. And I so
greatly appreciated that. I heard from him, talking to him,

(09:29):
trying to find something fun to do and repay him somehow.
He said, Yeah, when I was a kid, I used
to fish for those carp You told me their carp
out here, and maybe we could do that sometime. Absolutely
we could. So I baited three spots yesterday. We get
to the first spot, and as soon as his little
and we're fishing at super old school. I may talk

(09:49):
about that later, but as soon as his little line
hit the water, the court goes down. And I'm using
circle hooks on these on these things, on these poles,
and so well, he it just didn't work out. He
missed the bite like I did two or three times
a couple of days ago. Uh, he missed the bite.
And from that point forward, I won't I won't give

(10:13):
you the end just yet, but I well, i'll tell
you what. Let me get Brandon and I'll try to
get to Dave. He may have to hold. But then
i'll tell you about the second half of that trip,
which was quite exciting. At one point. Hey, Brandon, what's up, buddy?

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Do I'm okay? How are you? Ah? Yeah, better with
a win than a loss. And I'm a lot better
than I would have been two days ago. If you'd asked, do.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
You have time ambition?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
What about it?

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Do you talk.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
As I do? Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (10:52):
I do.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
If I didn't have fun doing what I do, it
would be hard to get out of bed when I
get out of bed on Saturday morning.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Before I talk about that. How did your son do
at the game?

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
They did okay? Well that this past tournament got canceled
because of the rain. There was no game, no game. No.
Now I think I don't know whether they're going to
try to make it up or not this coming weekend,
we'll see. You were talking about the story about the
what is it the thing? Yeah, cotton Mouth water mooksin

(11:26):
Oh God, I'm telling you, I came very close to
being bitten, and I just I just said, okay, that's it.
I've had enough for today, and I just drove it
on back.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Oh, I do not want to do no.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
I know.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Do you know what kind of boat?

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Do you thinking?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Should I get a boat? That boy? That that opened?
It's like saying I want to buy a car, What
kind should I get?

Speaker 7 (11:57):
There?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Are I would have to ask you fifty questions just
before I could tell you. Yeah. Hey, hey, Brandon, I'm
running kind of short. I'm at break time, and I
want to catch Dave real quick before we get there. Okay, okay,
all right, buddy.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Are you going to be watching the game.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
The best I can?

Speaker 8 (12:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I think I will. I think I will.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I'll see you audios. All right, let me do that.
Let me catch Dave real quick. Hey Dave, what's up? Man?

Speaker 8 (12:29):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (12:29):
We're out here in Vanderbilt.

Speaker 9 (12:30):
Up?

Speaker 7 (12:31):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
I was looking at the caw patres hey till that
nip pound the dude. I said, hey, because I went
through there. I was going to play somewhere, and I
have my guitar. So I went on in there and
put my guitar and slung around my neck, and we
took pictures and I watched him found on the handle.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's cool, isn't it. I mean that's a that's a
lost art. I bet they're I bet there's not. Well,
there are a lot. Actually, I want to talk to
him about that, about how many knife makers there are
in the country, because he hosts a big festival of
them out there every year.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Right right, yeah, tell him, I said, Hey, on it
down on a down note, I'm heading to the mergency
room right now. Well, I had to go to the
doctor on Thursday, and now they got it. You know,
I've got a pacemaker, second pastmaker on my heart, and
he just wants to make sure all my blood's right
and everything. So we're just going to kind of do something.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Okay, carry up blood work, get your wall changed.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, tune up and everything.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I get tune up. That's better. That's a better description
of what you're getting.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Hey, and get my battery charge, you know, saying so
all right, man, okay, thanks a lot.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
All right, Well, be careful man. I hope you I
hope you're will I really do get telling.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah, I'll be I'll be fine. I'll holler at y'all tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Okay, Okay, good, thanks Dave, I'll see you buddy.

Speaker 7 (13:46):
All right.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
We're gonna let him get onto the doctor's office. We
are gonna get on out of here for the first
break of the program. We are Sports Talk seven ninety A.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Ready listen online at sports seven ninety dot com.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Now more bike. All right, welcome back Doug Pike Show
on Sports Talk seven ninety this Saturday morning. Let me
put that page of notes over there, picked this up
and put it over here. I put that right there,
and I think we're almost caught up. So fast forwarding

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from early in the week when I darned near stepped
on a cotton mouth, which would have been unpleasant at
least and worse at best, or unpleasant at best and
requiring hospital transportation at worst. On the upside, I was
only about maybe, I guess at the speed I'd have

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been driving. Actually, there's traffic at that time of day, though,
so i'd have got stuck in traffic with a cotton
mouth bite trying to get to a hospital that, without
traffic would only have been about maybe eight minutes away
at the speed I would have been driving. Posted. Of course,
any event, I missed that one. So fast forward to

(15:02):
yesterday afternoon when I was going to try to bring
back childhood memories for my new friend John and we
met out there. I had been out there an hour earlier,
chumming a couple of spots and making sure we had
as good a chance as we could to catch these fish.
And I honestly, the fishing part of it, I can

(15:26):
brush off very quickly. We caught zero fish, and that's
maybe a first for me out there to have spent
an hour staring at a little cork. And it was fun,
making no mistake. We really had a good time just
kind of sitting hanging out out there and just shooting

(15:48):
the breeze and learning about each other a little bit,
how we met our wives and stuff like that. But
all we caught was three turtles, which really went. That
took me right back to little kid times we caught
boy there when my son was little. We'd get on

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these spots and the little panfish and a couple of
places I can think of right off the top of
my head. Panfish are thick in there, and boy, you
drop a line in there and the cork would just
keep on going and just disappear. Drop a line in cork,
keeps on going, disappears, having a lot of fun, then
all of a sudden, really no action. Wow, where'd all

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those little fish go and then the cork goes down
slowly and it's like, oh, come on, not again, and
here it'd be it. Then it just became what size
is the turtle? And that's what happened to us yesterday
three times. And John was quick to point out when
it was all over and I was bemoaning the fact

(16:53):
that we had caught three turtles, he was quick to
point out that he caught two and I caught one, like, Okay,
I guess maybe I don't know. And in fairness to
the turtles and to their safety, if anybody's worried about it,
I was using circle hooks with the barbs completely mashed down.

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So the good news is that all three of those
hooks were right there in the corner of the turtle's
mouth where they would have been had we caught a fish,
and fairly easy to get them out of there. It's
a little the quarters are a little tighter for manipulating
those hooks and bending them and rolling them around to
get them out of there. But all three turtles now,

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they may be sore this morning. I prob I feel
like they got a root canal or something like that.
Seven three seven nine email me, Doug pick at iHeartMedia
dot com. Let me check my emails real quick, make
sure I'm not missing anything really important, and then I'm
going to tell you about that second second cause for alarm,

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the bells went off. So we're standing at this one spot.
We're standing at the original spot where that cork went
down first, and we have been standing there and fishing
and walking back and forth along the bank, and I'm
going to go on the other side of you because
maybe there's a fish over there. And we were actually

(18:18):
fishing this thing with croppie poles. I thought it would
be fun to go old old old kiddie school, and
since I didn't have any real cane poles around anymore,
I went with the croppie poles I had, and so
we were very precisely fishing, not fifteen feet off the bank.
Maybe I don't know. Those poles are twelve feet long,

(18:38):
and if you really swing it, you can get that
little bait out there to probably twenty feet off the bank. Tops.
Bottom line is we had trod all through there, and
at one point, probably thirty minutes into fishing there, actually
we had gone over to another spot and come back
to this one as a matter of fact, And I'm

(19:01):
walking along the bank and John's about maybe four feet
to my left, and he had stood where I was
standing then, and I had stood where he was standing,
and we'd been just walking back and forth, back and forth.
And I stopped and I dang, here we go again. Snake.
John goes what I said, snake, Yeah, snake right here.

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And so I backed out of there, and very fortunately
for us both, once again, what I had encountered not
only was lethargic, but it also wasn't venomous. It was
just a little water snake and is two and a
half three feet long. Wasn't a giant, but at least
it wasn't one that could have set one of us

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screaming and running for the hospital. Thank goodness. That would
have been the worst thank you gift I think anybody
possibly could have given him for opening his home to me.
Holy cow. All right, So to take I'll take my
safety sam hat off now. But just remember that when
you're walking around in the woods and along the edges

(20:07):
of water and stuff. Right now, a lot of these
animals still feeling somewhat displaced and trying to find new
homes and watch, especially for copperheads around the trees. The
cicada deal has gone now, so probably not many copperheads
up in the trees and along the trunks, but they

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still disappear on the ground if you're not looking for them,
and that also is a nasty bite. So back to
the good stuff. Oh, by the way, there some total
of fish I caught in anticipation for this trip and
the pre trip, the scouting trip. I did catch three catfish,
and I caught one of the smallest carp I've ever
seen in my life. This thing was about maybe eight

(20:49):
or nine inches long maybe, And after watching these big
giant carp roaming the shorelines over there, gobbling up salad,
I was stunned that I had never dawned on me
that there could be smaller ones in there. But that's
what happens when you get a lot of big ones
in there too, all right, So I did that. I

(21:11):
got checked on that box. Oh, trout numbers, by the way,
let's let's not ignore speckled trout certainly not. Trout numbers
are doing better across the board all the way from
Sabine down to South Texas and along the Middle coast
extremely well. There are bookoo, as they say in Louisiana.

(21:33):
Fish along that middle coast right now. I visited with
Cliff and he sent me pictures of not only trout,
but well another fish I'll tell you about in a second.
So the trout deal, that trout had been in the
surf down there. This is it's more of like a
May May early June, well June pattern i'd call it.
But at least it's there now. And if you can

(21:54):
get away and get down there, you can walk that
beach and catch fish. You can run up and down
the bay if you've got access to a boat down there,
and catch fish, and lots of them too, there have been.
The bigger fish are being caught on bait fish imitations.
For lack of an easier way to describe it, mirror ures.

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All the top waters are working right now, and then
if you want to catch more fish, but probably smaller
fish can slide out into the channels any place where
there's real movement. Where the shrimp are migrating right now
is what's happening, and the smaller fish are gorging themselves
on shrimp all day and all night. Basically, it's a

(22:40):
fantastic time to be a fisherman in Texas assure you,
fishing up here not bad at all, not bad at all.
We get fewer days when you can actually catch, when
you can actually fish to surf confidently and have the
clean water it takes to get those fish. But nonetheless
they are here, and it's premature I think to bang

(23:00):
a tambourine and say, oh, the three fish limits just
knocking a home run. Every time somebody goes, they leave
two more fish in the water, because the truth is
not many people were catching five, and probably about the
same number are catching three when they go chasing speckle trout.
I don't think it's that so much as just nature

(23:20):
rebounding from anything that and having a fantastic knack for it,
thank goodness, rebounding from the freeze a while back, rebounding
from flooding all the fresh water that pushed all those
fish around. Now they're kind of coming back to where
they're supposed to be, and we're realizing and finding out

(23:41):
we've got lots of fish out there. We got a
whole lot of fish out there. Let me go get Rick,
see what's up? What's up?

Speaker 8 (23:48):
Rick?

Speaker 10 (23:50):
I didn't get my bump song.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Oh I'm sorry. Well, we'll have to wait.

Speaker 10 (23:56):
Man, get it. I had a reason for sending you
that mumps uncle. I'm wanting to buy a wood but
wooden indiing. If anybody's listening out there, you want to
buy all? You know, Elijah the wooden Indian. I want
to buy a wooden Indian.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Oh okay, okay, always wanted one. I don't know where
you're gonna find one, like the old barber shop things
in the.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Fifties, the little cigar shop.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
You're gonna yeah, cigar shops as well. Yeah, you're gonna
have to go to an antique store.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
I just.

Speaker 10 (24:29):
Well, wherever, so is that one laying down in the
garage came? I come give it.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
If there's one in a barn within one hundred miles
of you, you'll find it.

Speaker 10 (24:40):
I know where one is. He's just gonna sell it.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Oh no, that's cruel. What's up?

Speaker 10 (24:44):
A couple of quick couple of quick things. One is
you You just mentioned about snakes this time of the year,
and now yeah, they're out. They're starting to move. It's
drying up a little, believe it or not. And don't
think for a minute they can't climb.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
Oh I know.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I know rat snakes too, red snakes, copperheads, all of them.
They can climb.

Speaker 10 (25:06):
You're you're exactly right on those and more. But they
and what I've my experience has been when you get
after them and you're trying to pin them down or something,
you can't find them, and you're beating through the bushes
looking for them. They're not in the bushes. They're gone
up high as they can get on anything.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
They can find.

Speaker 11 (25:23):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
That's a good point, very good.

Speaker 10 (25:26):
Last thing is I mentioned to you earlier in an
email that I was probably gonna go fishing this morning,
and I did for about fifteen minutes. And and uh,
this lake it's four years old. It was built four
years ago. I helped build part of it. All right,
it's never been stopped. The guy builds a big lake.

(25:47):
He wanted to spend the money to stuck him with fish,
I know, but they've been there four years. I took
one lure with me, you know which one I took,
and I caught two. I caught two bass, two catfish,
one bass. And I'm I'm pretty good sized blue deal. Yeah, lie,
that's a big lure.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, it is for a blue way to eat it. Yeah. Well,
the important part is it those fish somehow that Yeah,
you hear stories about birds picking up fish with eggs
in them and dropping them and all these crazy stories.
But they aren't crazy because you if you just dig
a hole in the ground big enough and wait long enough,

(26:28):
they're gonna be fishing there somehow. And I don't know how,
but it happens.

Speaker 10 (26:34):
My brother Fish's detention phones around many man you and
have to talk to him at them. They don't get stucked.
He just does it for fun and they can be
a year old and he can catch it two or
three pound bass. How they get in there, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
You know, it would have to take some sort of
flooding event. I would think there would have to be
some sort of big flooding event that puts those fish
in there. Uh, and then the water goes back down.
You got a retention pond. What it's it's doing what
it's supposed to do, and it's it's capturing the water
that's coming from other places that might also hold a

(27:11):
little water and may have held it for many years.
I don't know. Well, there's got to be a reason,
but we don't have time to figure it. Out right now.
It's fascinating though, I really and I agree with you.
It's it's amazing that you can go to a hole
in the ground that was filled with water three years ago,
not a fish in it, and you go catch a
couple of bass and catfish. And that's that's good man,

(27:34):
It's it's good stuff. Okay, look here, we'll see Ricky,
your Rockets and astros live here. We are Sports Talk
seven ninety. The conversation continues this as the Doug Pike Show.

(27:55):
All right, welcome back to Doug Pike Show on Sports
Talk seven ninety. I'm pretty cool. Happened this week. Actually,
the Coastal Conservation Association stocked on Wednesday. It's one billion,
one billion salt water fish grown out at one of

(28:18):
the hatcheries, raised up by very very skilled people at
these hatcheries to save for leaf size release size. It's
fingerlings is what we're talking about. Basically, two and a
half three inch long fish that have a shot. You

(28:40):
can't release fry. They're just too delicate and there are
too many hurdles in between them and maturity. But the
fingerlings have a chance if the birds don't get them,
if the other fish don't get them. If I don't
know how many little hatchery fish would be eaten by
turtles out very many. There just aren't that many fish

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eating turtles in the bay. But nonetheless, they face a
lot of hurdles to maturity, and even still, enough of
them get through, enough of them run the gauntlet that
they become active adult breed stock, broodstock if you will,

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and keep it going. They just keep it going. This
is really it's a significant milestone in coastal resource conservation.
I remember the redfish Wars, and most of you are
too young to even know they existed. And it wasn't well,
it did get violent sometimes actually, but mostly it was

(29:47):
just commercial fishermen at odds with recreational fishermen over gillnets
in the bays and then perse singes out in the
Gulf of Mexico until Rudom came up with the overseasoned
blackened redfish recipe that all of a sudden just took

(30:08):
the nation by storm, and basically what it did was
put a price on the heads of spawning class redfish,
the big schools of really big red fish. These fish
are twenty five thirty years old and they spawn in
the fall and they get into big, big, big schools.
They spawn offshore, not far, not twenty miles out, but

(30:33):
within a mile or two of shore around passes, and
I would imagine that their genetic input is such by
now over millennia that they spawn and the eggs get
fertilized right as the tide begins to fall in or
come in, and that carries those fertilized eggs up into

(30:58):
the bay system farther, farther and farther, where they get
up into little, tiny shallow water and get kind of
out of harm's way, if you will, and at least
some of them make it through, because there are still
those giant schools of redfish. There was a time at
the peak of the redfish Wars when not only were

(31:18):
the smaller redfish being gillneted to death along with big trout,
that the offshore redfish to spawners were being per saned
virtually into oblivion. They would have been probably had nothing
been done. And a handful of guys here, led by
a guy named Walter Fondren, who started CCA was then

(31:42):
g CCA, the Gulf Coast Conservation Association, a handful of
guys got together and said, you know, enough's enough. These
redfish are important to this fishery, and we're going to
get them declared game fish so these guys can't commercially
catch them. And a lot of tire slash went on,
a lot of boat rent parking lot fistfights went on.

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The man who got me into the newspaper business, uh
Bob Brister, one of the first real true outdoor writers
around here. Bob Brister had He wrote about this quite
a bit and went out to his mailbox one morning

(32:27):
and found two live rounds or live shotgun rounds, two
shotgun shells in his mailbox at his house. And that
was unpleasant. It was. It was pretty rough, It really was.
It was pretty rough. Sportsmen fought back, though, and they
they didn't slash tires, they didn't they didn't punch people

(32:49):
in the face. What they did is go to the
legislature and get the law passed to stop all this.
And it's well, if you've fished for redfish lately, you
probably are already know how good that population is now
and how well the efforts of all those people so
many years ago paid off for us. It really was

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fantastic and continues to be to this day. A billion
fish slot, better trout numbers clearly, better redfish numbers everywhere,
and a good solid plan to replenish flounder and get
their numbers back up to Flounder have been kind of
struggling a little bit, and they're they're a little bit
harder to spawn. Same with the speckl trout. Speckle trout

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are so cannibalistic. It's hard to put on a successful
restocking program because you have to grow these little fish
into slightly bigger fish to get them where they're going.
And you put them in in the tank with each other,
and you throw in a bunch of food, and you
turn around and the next day there's like eight or

(33:54):
nine really fat ones toothpicks picking their teeth. They not
only and all the food, but they had half the
little fingerings or fry or whatever that we're in there
with them. It's amazing. I've got that. By the way.
At some point in this program, I may get to
a story I found yesterday. It's just a little history
lesson on the Galveston jetties, and I found it interesting,

(34:16):
an interesting read, and I believe that all of you
would as well, And so I'll probably try to get
to that if I can hopefully, hopefully I can get
to it today, and if not, then we'll save it
for tomorrow. Seven one three two one two five seven
ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. We'll take
a little break here on the way out.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
We are sports Stock seven nineties, Houston, the Sports where
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Speaker 2 (34:44):
Now get more, Doug, Welcome back to the Doug Pike Show.
On a Saturday morning, A pretty Saturday morning. It was
when I left the house anyway, not bad at all.
I got an email. I want to hang on. Let
me put this up on my laptop here so I
can see it a little better and explain it a
little better than I would be able to otherwise. Click

(35:09):
click where did it go?

Speaker 7 (35:11):
There?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
It is right there, h and click and bring it
up so I can read it, see what's going on.
This is something about which I was not aware, But
I'm glad I am now because I'm going to do
some research into it, and the more I learn, the
sooner I'll be able to talk intelligently about it. But
it's something that the Parks and Wallach Department has put

(35:33):
out and I want to go boy, it's got two, four, six, eight, ten, twelve,
thirteen different links just at the top of the page,
and then as you scroll down it, it shows various
little short stories and there's some shooting sports stuff and

(35:55):
there's some ag Oh, I see what it is.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
This is the individual stories that are linked as just
little headlines up higher in the email. The bottom line
is this is all about the shooting sports and all
about getting kids involved, all about hunter education, all about
opportunities for seniors maybe to learn outdoors. And it's called

(36:19):
target Talk and it comes from Texas Hunter Education News,
a piece of the Parks and Waldlife Department. And if
you can remember to go search that and you're interested
in hunting, if you've got kids who want to start hunting,
if you've got seniors who are interested in getting into
the shooting sports because they really are fun. This is
a fantastic resource that I honestly wasn't clearly aware of

(36:43):
the putting Texas Parks and Walleife Department, but I didn't
know that they had this separate little entity, this resource
called target Talk that really breaks down some good stuff.
We have a very good shooting team over there at
the summer Olympics. By the way, I'm let's see. Uh, well,

(37:03):
I don't want to get into it. I'm without doing
the research because nobody wants to hear me read. All right,
So that's that's that all good there, Mike weighs in.
He's on his way to Shipley's. Who is already Oh,
he says, already consuming right now. He he's old school.
I'm gonna have to get you to buy do what apparently,

(37:26):
I'm gonna have to get him to try one of
those culatchies and offer up an opinion. He is he
has been eating at Shipley do nuts. He's standard two
buttermilk cake and coffee. That is, for as many years
as he's been listening to this show and writing me.
That's how long he's been eating two buttermilks and a

(37:46):
cup of coffee. It's probably since you were born, Melvin,
just way back when you and I were well, when
I was a little kid and you were just not
even around. It seems like Mike's been doing this. Yeah,
he's been sending me that email for a long time.
Hats off to you, Mike. And you know, old habits
are hard to break. But if you could work in

(38:06):
a Kolachi and send me a nice review of it.
I would be glad to pass it on to the
Shipley folks. That'd be kind of cool. They'd like that
for sure. Faux Pro waded in this morning. I'm not sure.
I think he was just taking a selfie and trying
to brag because he's out fishing somewhere. He doesn't even
tell me where. Holy cow, I'm going hunting crappy and

(38:31):
white baths today. I thought you'd like to see me
a picture of Well, he didn't write this, but this
is what I read between the lines. Fuy, you'd really
get a kick out of seeing me in my boat
going fishing while you're working. No, no, that's not no,
I'm not real fat. I know what's wrong with him,
is right?

Speaker 6 (38:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
It's kind of hard to tell. Mojo waghs in the
concerns that we had Melvin apparently aren't broadcasting outward. So
I don't know what causes what causes glitches like this?
Do you have any idea? But it might be a network.
The blame the network. I like that, you know, just
all this technology, it's certainly not our fault. No, no, no, no,

(39:14):
we didn't do anything. There was a there was an
issue in one of the other studios this week as well.
I can't remember what it was. It seems like there's
always something. It's amazing. The more technology we we absorb,
the more it upsets our stomachs. You know, we get
little stomach aches the more of this technology we eat,

(39:35):
and it's it's just unavoidable. Honestly, I don't and I
don't know why. Why would something. My grandfather had a
really good Now this is back when radios and TVs
had tubes in them. Okay, are you familiar that that
was even the thing? Well, yeah, I remember that. You
remember tubes in the TV and every now and then
you had a change attitude all that stuff. Well, my
grandfather was an electrical engineer and knew all about that,

(39:59):
all about He was part of the team that kind
of engineered the original telephone lines down up and down
the East coast, So he knew his stuff, and he
would always tell me as a younger man, growing up
and very young. I can't remember how old I was
when he passed, but it bothered me to lose him.

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He was a very smart man. The bottom line is
what he told me was if you go in to
buy an electronic device, and they will offer you at
a little bit of a discount, the one that's there,
the demo model that's up there on the wall, working
just fine, looks beautiful. Buy it because if you're going

(40:42):
to have a problem with one, it's usually going to
come up within the first couple of days that you
plug it in. If there's a real significant glitch, it's
going to come up pretty quickly. But that thing that's
sitting there running and been running for a month, two months,
three months, and the showroom, that one works, and all

(41:02):
you got to do is unplug it, take it home
and plug it back in. Now, the TV that I
have upstairs has been there since my fiftieth birthday. Digital
HDTV was a brand new thing back then, and I
paid more for that television as my wife actually insisted

(41:25):
that we get it. And it's not huge, it's not
at all huge. It's uh, that thing costs. I want
to say this is again, this is significant. Number of
years ago, like thirty five hundred dollars, you could get
one the size of the wall in here for thirty

(41:46):
five hundred dollars. I think now you could get the
same you could get the same TV with the same
resolution probably for what three hundred bucks at best Buy
right now. So let me guess, is that a plaid plasmas.
I don't remember. It's been that long. I really don't know. No,

(42:09):
I don't think it was. I don't know, but it's
it was. It was the best that was available then,
whatever that was. And it's still running. I mean, it
still works except when except when the satellite doesn't work,
and that's that's rare, actually, considering the size of the
the crape myrtle tree in my backyard and it's proximity

(42:32):
to that satellite dish, it's a miracle we get any
signal through there. But it comes on through. It does
pretty well. Seven one, three, two five seven ninety Email
me Doug Pick at iHeartMedia dot com. I'm still waiting
for him to put fishing in the Olympics. We talked
about that last week and I'm not going to bring
it up again as a topic of real discussion. But
it's just driving me crazy that they can't come up

(42:53):
with some way to acknowledge fishing as a sport when
they have so many other things that I look at
and go really that's a sport. No, they're not.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
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Speaker 2 (43:15):
Now here's Doug Pike. All right, welcome back, Thanks for listening.
You got a little walk on music, Walk up music
for this guy. You got it? Oh, Melvin, come on, man,
Timing is everything in this business. Holy cow, Melvin, bring
it down. Man. I'd rather talk to Cowboy than wait
for him to say Mac the knife. Just to make

(43:37):
a make an obscure reference. When I was growing up,
almost every kid I hung out with carried a little
pocket knife. I grew up in the last of the
whittling generations, I think, and now I can't. I can't
think of maybe one or two guys I work with
who who might even might carry a little knife day
to day. Does mercy sakes the fascinations some people have

(44:03):
with knives? Does the first of all, Welcome to the family,
Cowboys and Manski. How are you man?

Speaker 7 (44:10):
I'm doing great, Doug. It's great to talk to you again.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah, Phoenix Knives out there in Belleville. I'm so glad
to have you as part of this family. So glad
also that you are supporting my This Week in Military
History program because I just I like doing those things
and I think it ought to be every day on
every station in the whole world. But what do I know,
so quick question, what does most people not carrying knives

(44:37):
do for your business? Is there an increased fascination because
so few people really understand knives and knife making? Or
is it that they just out of sight, out of mind,
they don't think about it. How does it work for you?

Speaker 7 (44:53):
Actually we do all right. People are getting back into
knives and they're we've seen trends now. As you were
talking about earlier Windling generation, everybody had a pocket knife
on them. Sure, you know when we were kids that
was a way of life. You did have a pocket knife.
But through the generations people did stop carrying knives. But here,
since you know, fortune and fire in twenty fifteen, in

(45:16):
some of those areas, you're starting to see a big
upswing in people getting back into knives. Ironically, it's not
so much folders. There are people that are into folders,
but we're carrying more of what we call ed c's
every day carry so it's a fixed blade just a
small aversion on their hips, and.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
That's the popular little belt.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
Yeah, the hug of belt, this little belt sheet.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, it's funny. I was thinking last night when I
was kind of doing a little prep for this. Wait,
they're I'm gonna get control. Somebody's gonna get mad. Uh.
A fewer people carrying knives and more carrying nail files.
I'll just leave it at that.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
There's a few of those out there.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
So who cares? Really? Who cares? One of the things
that caught my attention about your store as opposed to other,
say knife stores or stores that sell knives, is you're
you're more factory direct, is what it is. You're you're
out there, this is like, this is like going into
You're a factory that turns out awesome knives. It's like

(46:16):
buying factory direct from Lamborghini or Bugatti. If you go
into your store, you're you're gonna be talking to the
guy who makes the knives they're looking at, talking to
the guy who can make a knife that looks. However,
anybody sees a knife and wants to see it. So
what's your everyday schedule out there at the store. Are
you in the back all day? Hammer and steel or
do you have time to come out and greet most

(46:37):
of your customers.

Speaker 7 (46:39):
Oh, I make I make a definite point to come
out and actually greet the customers. So I've got a
relatively small shop, which is yeah, it's about eighteen hundred
square feet. It's actually an original blacksmith shop that work
since eighteen ninety one.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah, I want to talk about that. That's fascinating.

Speaker 7 (46:59):
It's the real deal. So when you walk in, you know,
let's preface all this. You've got to go back and
understand that it takes between twenty and seventy hours to
make a knife. So it's not a fast process. And
that's the difference you mentioned factory type things. A claftsman
takes more time than a factory, so it's a huge

(47:21):
difference actually. And when we're in there producing and we're
making these things, some days I'm hammering and I might
spend all day long hammering lots of blames. Well, then
I go back to the grinders and I've got to
grind these into shape where I'm going to put hours
polishing and hand filing and making the knife look finished. Well,
then we go to heat treat. There's eleven hours in

(47:42):
there heat treating the blades. Then they come out looking
all nasty like they come out of.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
The fires earlier.

Speaker 7 (47:49):
We got to start all over polishing and cleaning these blades.
And then if we decide to go to a mirror finish,
you can spend a week hand standing the blade. Now. Yeah,
And then we got handles, and then we got leather,
and then we finally sharpen the knife and put the
customer's initials into it or if they're buying a custom piece,
and put them into the cases for people to come

(48:11):
in and look at. So it's a slow, meticulous process
that takes actually quite a long time to do.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
So basically you make about four cents an hour.

Speaker 7 (48:21):
Yeah, you know most classmen do.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Holy caww. Yeah, I knew it took a long time, Okay,
But when you spread it out that way and explain
just how long it takes for all this stuff to happen,
there's no way you're in this for the money. You're
in it because it's a passion, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (48:40):
Yes, I've loved knives since I can remember. It's what
I always wanted. King Arthur Robin Hood to three Musketeers yeah, swords,
arm or all that stuff. I wanted this stuff, I
couldn't afford it as to make it.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Cowboys and Meski from Phoenix Knives on the Duck Pike
Show talk for a minute about the classes you hold
out there. Did I read write that people can just
come out and build their own knives? Somehow we do.

Speaker 7 (49:01):
We offer a lot of programs. The most popular program
is are come and make it programs, and so that
is ages six years old to one hundred and six
years old can come in any day of the week,
anytime they want, Tuesday through Saturday ten to five, and
they can hammer out their own souvenir knife. We will
give them half of a horseshoe. We'll put it in

(49:22):
the fire, set it on the amble, give them the hammer,
and they hammer their own knife out to a type
of point that they choose. Then our guys in back
will grind it, polish it, make a sharp, give them
a sheath.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
To go with it.

Speaker 7 (49:37):
And that's our most popular thing. And we get like
I said, ages of all all ages and unique people.
We do special needs. I get a blind gentleman the
other day. So we really try and give opportunity to everybody,
which is a wonderful experience for us as individuals as well.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Fad I saw somewhere I think this morning actually that
you'll do personal classes as well for somebody who's more
serious about learning. That's if that's the case, you got
to be really happy when somebody like that shows up,
who's really into it like you are.

Speaker 7 (50:15):
They Yes, we have a lot of fun with that.
We do one day classes, we do four quick four
day classes, wow, and they learn how to hammer, how
to grind, how to do all these different projects. We
also do team building for corporations, so we do a
lot of different avenues. So we try and tailor not
only our knives to each individual, but their experience when

(50:35):
they come into our shop. And they did too tests
to try all these new things I got.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
I got a half a page of questions here. I
still want to ask, can you hold on through a
quick break?

Speaker 7 (50:44):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Oh you're my hero man. Let me put you on
hold stand by for yeah, just stand by for a
couple of minutes, and when we get back, I'll talk
some more with Cowboys and Meski from out there at
Phoenix Knives. Okay, let me put him on hold. I'll
do that, oh Man, one more time.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Is Sports Talk seven ninety on the go with iHeartRadio Friends.
You've got to try The conversation continues this as the
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Speaker 2 (51:11):
Louis Ormstrong. That goes way back past most of this audience.
All right, let's get you back on the phone. Mac
the Knife. No, it's Cowboy the Knife. Let me get
that click him in. I am hey, thanks for hanging on, Cowboy.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (51:27):
Man midwas you're not a problem.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
You've been cowboys Manski from out there at Phoenix Knives
in Belleville in case you needed, just in case you
needed another great reason to go to Belleville. So back
to knives.

Speaker 8 (51:40):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Whose idea was it to put in axe throwing?

Speaker 10 (51:45):
I gotta I gotta know, you know, I just watched
the trends.

Speaker 7 (51:50):
I watched what people were in. Who you started seeing
axe houses popped up all over the place, and so
we decided to go ahead and build up some alleys.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Now that's awesome.

Speaker 7 (51:59):
Most of these houses are throwing hatchets. We take and
change that up a bit. We make our own tomahawks,
and tomahawksh we're designed to throw. Yes, they were so
they actually throw a lot easier and they're a lot
more fun.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
So we do tomahawks, going that sounds good. Okay, back
to knives, let's get off of tomahawks. But I do
like that if I I'm coming out at some point,
I'm going to make a habit or not a habit,
but I'm going to make it a point to get
out there and shake hands and learn more about what
you do. I would guess that you are getting busy
as we get closer to hunting season. Is that your

(52:32):
busiest time of year?

Speaker 10 (52:35):
It is.

Speaker 7 (52:36):
We do stay a little bit busier during hunting season.
The fall in the springs are always our busiest time.
But we do supply a lot of hunters and fishermen
with all sorts of very comfortable knives to their designs
and their plans or what they need.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
And on the on the technical side, Cowboy talk a
little bit about the differences between various types of hunting knives.

Speaker 7 (53:00):
Well, knives are very unique. The blades will tell you
what they're going to be used for. I feel like,
especially for a good hunter, they're going to use probably
three blades most of the time, usually going to be
a little bit broader from top to bottom. Blade maybe
an inch and a half wide, three and a half
inches long, good for caping, fleshing, doing things like that.

(53:23):
You're going to want a little skinny, pointy blade to
get in there and do the detail work when you
hit some of those joints or other regions like those.
And then of course you're usually going to want a
larger blade for butchering and cleaning the meat up or
cleaning the animal up after you're finished. So there's lots
of blades you need, and everybody's got a different style

(53:43):
how they slice, how they cut, and you need one
obviously to fit your hand. You know, it gets messy
in there, it gets slick, and if the blade doesn't
fit your hand, it's not comfortable. You're not going to
use it. You're not going to be able to hold
on to it. So the right blade for the right
makes all the difference in the world.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Let's talk about keeping a knife sharp. What's the biggest
mistake people make when it comes to sharpening a good knife.

Speaker 7 (54:10):
The biggest mistake of keeping a knife sharpening a knife
is not sharpening it often enough, letting it get so
dull that they feel like they can't sharpen it. And
then there's the understanding as you hit harder things, you
bend the blade just a little bit. Because that cutting
edge is fine, you get what's called the burr on there.
And if you just go straight to a stone and

(54:32):
start cutting like you're trying to slice off that stone,
you're rolling that burr over the rest of the way.
You need to hone the blade, so you need to
actually go draw the blade backwards to straighten. That's what
honing means. What's straight in the blade, and then you
sharpen your blade and you can do it in half
the amount of time. I guess. The final thing I

(54:53):
would say is not keeping a consistent angle. So if
you're changing angles every time you run down your stone, O,
you're actually creating a curved cutting edge, so it's strong,
but it doesn't feel really sharp. You need a really
flat cutting edge.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
I'm learning. I'm taking notes as fast as I can.
I swear.

Speaker 7 (55:14):
A lot to know.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yeah, and I would guess just in support of what
you and what you do, it's one of the big
mistakes people makes just buying a cheap knife and thing
and it's going to hold an edge.

Speaker 7 (55:25):
There is there is a lot of that out there.
There's a lot of manufacturers, a lot of companies out
there making blades, and you know what you're buying at
Walmart or Academy or other places like that are not
necessarily the blade for the job. They're cheap, they're inexpensive,
you can lose them, but they aren't necessarily going to
make your job easier. So you know, the right blade

(55:48):
makes all the difference in the world.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Thinking back on all the knives you've made, Cowboys and Meski,
do you remember any of them in particular that you
kind of wish you could have just said, I'm sorry,
I lost that, I'll have to start over, and just
kind of tucked away into your own personal stash.

Speaker 7 (56:04):
I've got many of them that I remember. Most of
my blades was as many as I've made, thousands and
thousands of thousands. I mean, in twenty seven years, hundreds
of knives a year. I can't even tell you how
many I've made, good point, but I do remember them
because I've spent so much time with each one of
those blades that they have a pretty personal spot in
my heart each time.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah, there's a significant personal investment in every single one
of those.

Speaker 7 (56:28):
Isn't there exactly?

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Almost like it's almost like raising kids. So what's the
most unusual request you've gotten from a customer for a knife?

Speaker 7 (56:41):
If you can imagine it, it's happened, swords, self defense pieces, wallhangers,
you name it, it's been made. I've done. I can't
even tell you how many varieties of things have been
done to me. The ones that really stand out in
my mind aren't the oddities, the unique ones. The ones
that stand out in my mind when I get an

(57:03):
eleven year old kid who mowed yards for all summer,
doing every chore he could, and then he comes in
and spends like fifteen hundred dollars on just an elaborate knife,
and he designed every.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
Bit of it out.

Speaker 7 (57:16):
And I'm looking at his dad, going, is this all right?
I don't want to upsell this kid. I don't want
to be a used car salesman. Yeah, I mean, but
this is what this kid's asking for. You realize how
expensive this is, and they're like, he earned it, this
is what he wanted. That is a memory to me.
And I mean I had some of those guys, and
I had one walk back in the shop just the
other day and I haven't seen this kid since he

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was eleven. He's now like twenty six years old, and
it's like, wow, this was amazing. We get to sit
and visit and reflect, and he brings the knife in
because he gets lifetime free sharpening anything bottom my shop.
I take care of you. Oh wow, So I clean
it up, I sharpen it. We have a long, fun
conversation about everything, and then we keep in contact on

(57:57):
the phone just because we've got that. It's just a
fun relationship.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
I would suspect it in your story, it's similar to
what goes on down at my friend's store down in
Texas City at Shooter's Corner. That when when people come in, somehow,
some way, a story is going to start and everybody
in the shop is going to listen to that story,

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and then some that's going to spark another story from
somebody else. It's probably kind of hard to get out
of there once you get in, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (58:29):
Well, sometimes it does.

Speaker 7 (58:30):
Yes, it can definitely get that way. We have a
lot of fun, but we also stay very busy, so
at and as much time as we'd like to do
like that.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
I see.

Speaker 7 (58:42):
We all love the stories.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, and since we're getting closer to fall and winter.
How much times it take to get a custom knife
from Cowboys and MASKI.

Speaker 7 (58:51):
Well, that's a fun thing about our shop. I sell
not only Phoenix knives. We sell knives from twelve to
fourteen other knife makers that are uscommakers from all over
the country. And that way, there's over three hundred knives
in my shop when you come walking in. We're actually
at the perfect juncture in my career because we are
expanding the shop right now. We're about to go larger

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and I'm going to put over a thousand custom knives
in my shop. So if you don't want to come
in and wait for the months that it takes for
me to put you into the queue and make a
custom knife for you, I'm going to have lots of
knives available for you to come in and pick out
what's on the shelf, and we offer a variety of lines.

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I've got what's called a mid tech line, so it's
a production line that my journeymen are making every day.
So it's not when I might have made but my
guys under my tutelage are making them and they can
get them done a little faster here and there, and
so you can either wait for me, you can wait
for theirs, or you can pick one up off the shelf.
There's lots of options. And if we don't make that

(59:57):
particular style, Like I'm not a huge folder guy myself,
but I have a lot of folder guys that sell
in my shop, and I will get you in touch
with another knife maker. My ego doesn't get in the
way here. Sure, I want the customer to be happy
and get what they need.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Wow, that's refreshing. You don't hear a lot of that anymore.
Good for you, cowboys. I'm asking you have hosted gatherings
of knife builders up there in Belleville? Is there any
Is there one coming soon? Or did I miss one?
What's going on with that?

Speaker 7 (01:00:29):
We actually host the largest custom knife show in Texas
and it's the first weekend of April every year. Usually
it's close to about one hundred and sixty knife maker
from twenty four state.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
So there is a lot of knives there, I would say, yeah,
but tens of thousands, perhaps at least outs at least Yeah,
you got that many in your store, don't you?

Speaker 7 (01:00:54):
Almost We're getting there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Oh my word, Yeah, I'm thrilled to hear that you're
expanding too, and rightfully, so somebody with your skills and
how many apprentices do you have back there? How many?
How many people learning under your watch?

Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
I have three journeymen working full time for me at
the moment, and then my wife has two counter people
that work for her up front. So we try and
keep the stocks to where you will always have somebody
there to provide the service that you're going to need
when you come into our shop.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Oh, somebody who met you at the store carrying a
guitar called earlier in the program and said to tell
you how when I talked about you know, you remember.

Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
I know exactly who that is?

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Who doesn't really? Yeah, he said it was a great
experience he had out there.

Speaker 7 (01:01:41):
So all right, they were there for a long time,
a lot of stories.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, I can get that's the same guy,
all right, cowboy, Thanks man, Cowboys to ask you from
Phoenix Knives out there in Belleville. Very easy to find
once you get to Belleville. And I'm thrilled to have
you in the family. Thank you for supporting that this
week in US military history piece that we're doing. And
I will be out there to visit with you personally

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soon and get in a handshake.

Speaker 7 (01:02:08):
Thanks, Doug. I really appreciate it. I'm glad I'm part
of the family.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
You bet man. Audios, all right, we'll cut him loose
and get back to it at the bottom of the
hour here. But that was There's no way I could
have done that in twelve or thirteen minutes. There's just
no way that I could have probably gone another hour
talking about knives and some of the different steals that
are involved. And to hear how long it takes to

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hear how long it takes to get one knife built.
That's just fascinating to me. All Right, we'll take a
little break here.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
On This is Sports Talk seven ninety online at sports
seven ninety dot com. Now there are more Doug fight.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Tapping my feet in here. That's a pretty good tune,
right there, soul Man. What year was that released? Do
you remember or do you see it?

Speaker 8 (01:03:02):
Or no?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
No, that's what was taking off the hard drive. Okay,
I can look it up for you. It's okay, Well yeah,
just look it up and just say, hey, it was
nineteen whoever whatever you got it seven one three two
one two five seven ninety Email me Doug Pike at
iHeartMedia dot com. Let me go check email before we
get back in here. I've been tapping the foot and
having fun. There's something from from black Horse here. What

(01:03:25):
does that say? It's just say, yeah, just a reminder
that hey, they ready for you. Just going out there
them in Timmercreek two of my favorite places at Golf
Club of Houston and Blackhawk and well, yeah, okay, nineteen
sixty seven, sixty seven, Wow, I was. I was not
quite a teenager in nineteen sixty seven, but definitely definitely

(01:03:48):
up and around twelve years old. We were I'm trying
to remember, Yeah, we were still My dad got transferred
to New Orleans for work. He was in the oil business,
so he got transferred to New Orleans for four years
and that was the last of those four years. And there,
as a quick aside, their little league baseball program over

(01:04:09):
there then was such in the neighborhood where we lived
in Meturi and the little teeny kid baseball was hurting
so badly for coaching apparently that they allowed me a
twelve year old. Now, I came from some good coaching
over here, and I knew the game fairly well, even
at twelve but nonetheless I was I qualified to be

(01:04:33):
and was a coach of a team of I think
like six or seven year olds, which was and I
would love to have been an adult at that time
watching a twelve year old coach six or seven year
olds in baseball. That's like t ball on steroids, man,
And I don't have a lot of memory of that,

(01:04:54):
but what I do remember was pretty darn fun. That's
the pretty good kids I do. The thing I remember
most Melbourne was asking a kid because I asked him
all what position they wanted to play? Right, one kid
looked at me square in the eye. I said, batter.
He was the original designated hitter. He was the first

(01:05:14):
one to ever think, you know, that fielding stuff's just
not for me. I'm gonna be a batter. He was
way ahead of his time, and when you stop and
think about it, and who knows, maybe he went on
to suggest it as an adult. You know, when I
was little, I had this conversation with my twelve year
old head coach about what position I was going to

(01:05:35):
play it. I wanted to be batter, And I think
that's a good idea. Mark is asking me about the
Veterans Show, It's not a show mark. It is just
a feature. It's a sixty second feature in which I
there's our imaging department did a fantastic intro to this.

(01:05:56):
It actually takes up about fifteen eighteen seconds, but it is.
It is so beautifully done. When I heard it the
first time, I said, don't change a thing.

Speaker 8 (01:06:04):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
And what I do afterward is highlight two or three
different events from that week in military history of this country.
And then I also acknowledge two or three, depending on
how much time I have, two or three Medal of
Honor recipient recipients who received their Medal of Honor in

(01:06:29):
that particular week. I have a great source for all
this information, and I rely on it heavily, and I'm
so thrilled to do that. His email continues. My father
World War two VET told us kids just this year
the greatest thing ever happened to him, and he believed
that generation was the education payment he got as a veteran.

(01:06:52):
That might be a good topic to bring up as
a part of military history, because so many of our
veterans have gone on to get a free education courtesy
of the US Armed Forces. It's a fascinating little thing,
and the more I got into it when it first
started many many years ago. It's it takes a special

(01:07:15):
kind of sponsor to be part of this, and Phoenix
Knives is an example. Anybody else is interested, I'd be
happy to talk to them. Just shoot me an email.
I'll send you all the details. All right, back to
hunting and fishing for a few minutes. Let me get
back to my notes here. Oh, I did mention earlier
that I had come across let me see. I make
sure that that's taken care of. That's taken care of.
That's taken care of. That's okay. By the way, I

(01:07:39):
talked to Captain Mike Catchiatti about a week and a
half ago to set up a trip with my son
and one of his friends. And that kid's dead and
we're going to take that in the very near future. Actually,
I'm looking forward to it. And the weather forecast this
far out, it's pretty far out, but the weather forecast
looks pretty good, so I can't wait for that. That's okay,

(01:08:03):
we talked about that. Okay, Yeah, I want to get
to this jetty thing while I have. I think I
can do it in just three minutes. It's a story
that came from someone named Lindsey Baker. T. Lindsey Baker,
actually from I believe it was a book called Building
the Lone Star and illustrated god to historic sites from
all the way back in the eighties. But it's a

(01:08:24):
quick history of the Galveston jetties and uh yeah, I
think I can do this, and I quote from T.
Lindsay Baker. After two unsuccessful attempts to construct jetties at Galveston,
the corp of Engineers finally develops a plan that proved
to be a singular success. The revised design, chosen in

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eighteen ninety called for the construction of two solid rock
jetties stretching from either side of the Harbor entrance into
the Gulf of Mexico to the point where they reached
a depth of thirty feet of water. That meant the
South Jetty, the one starting at the east end of
Galveston Island, would reach six miles into the ocean, and

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the North Jetty from the Bolivar Peninsula would extend five
miles into the sea. At their seaward ends, the jetties
would be seven thousand feet apart. Construction of solid rock
jetties began in eighteen ninety and continued through eighteen ninety eight.

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By eighteen ninety five, however, the beneficial results of the
project already were becoming apparent to everyone. Depth of the
water over the outer bar increased from twelve feet its
natural depth to seventeen feet six inches, and the inner
bar virtually disappeared, with an increase in water depth from
nine feet six inches to twenty four feet six inches.

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By the turn of the century, the channel had deepened
to between twenty five feet six inches and twenty eight feet.
It goes on a little bit farther, but I'm already Yeah, no,
I've it's got time. This last paragraph, the improvement to
the entrance of Galveston Harbor, including the expenditures the two
previous unsuccessful projects, cost taxpayers about eight million dollars, but

(01:10:11):
the benefits far out weighed the expense. As a result
of the project, these Central Great Plains and Rocky Mountain
West received a deep water port only one thousand miles away,
about half the distance to the East Coast ports. Economic
benefits Texas cannot be measured even today. The eighteen nineties
Solid Rock jetties we all know them and love them.

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Repaired through the years, remain in service, keeping the entrance
to Galveston Harbor open to shipping. The fantastic little history
lesson all the way back to eighteen ninety. The Galveston
jetties have been there and doing what they do. The
natural flow of water is what keeps that maintains that depth.

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The natural flow of water back and forth to tide
in and out, in and out, keeps the boom swept,
keeps the debris out of there, and flushes storm water out.
It welcomes warm, clear gulf water in and just that's
the that's the lifeblood, that's the heartbeat of the entire

(01:11:16):
Galveston based system. That's the that's the lifeline. That's that's
fascinating to me. All Right, let's take this a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
Oh, this is Sportstock seven ninety, Facebook dot Com, Slash,
sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Back to the Doug Bike Show eight forty eight on
Sports Talk seven ninety. Coffee sip timeouts. What's just not
the same when coffee goes lukewarm?

Speaker 6 (01:11:44):
Is it?

Speaker 8 (01:11:44):
M oh?

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Well, In case you were wondering, there is a light
offshore wind down along the beach front virtually dead calm,
not quite dead, but virtually so. And unfortunately at the
at Galveston at least it appears that the hang on.

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I'm gonna try a different camera view. Galveston water looks
a little off color as far as trying to go
wade the beach beach front. However, trying to get a
decent look at surfside, I got to go to the
surfside beach camera. The surfside Jetti Park camera is out.
Their power is still out back from Hurricane Barrel. Why

(01:12:33):
they haven't gotten that going, I don't know. All the
water looks absolutely gorgeous in this This is not it's
hard to see the color, but it would be hard
for me if I was standing right where this camera is,
it would be virtually impossible for me to not want
to go get in the water and wade out about

(01:12:53):
waist deep and commenced to chuck. And that's the good news.
It looked pretty. The downside is that we have a
falling tide all the way until nine thirty tonight. The
incoming tide for tomorrow peaks at six forty five a m.

(01:13:13):
So there might be as the tide flips depending on
exactly where you tried to walk in. There might be
a little short window through which you could hop and
maybe maybe do some good. But the tide, the tide
and the surf fishing aren't really gelling. Now, that doesn't

(01:13:34):
mean that you couldn't go out there and catch it
on the incoming a little let me see where it moves. Yeah,
it bottoms out tomorrow night at eleven, tops out Monday
morning at six forty five. Yeah, it's kind of an awkward,
ugly schedule, mostly falling until you get two or three

(01:13:55):
more days. Well, well out, all right, enough of that.
Oh oh boy, I don't know what's going to come
from this call. All right, faux pro how mey? You
got in the box? Now?

Speaker 7 (01:14:07):
Man?

Speaker 9 (01:14:08):
I got anywhere from twelve up to two, twelve to two,
I got, I got it. I got a half a
dozen or so.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
I'm a good for you.

Speaker 9 (01:14:17):
I'm looking for what I call road crappie this time
of year. Oh yeah, so I'm up in a little
creek and uh the tip is, uh, you got to
fish the Therma clan. It don't matter if it's a
thousand feet deep in a lake like Liverston, where you
don't have any vegetation. I'm catching these fishing a foot
to six foot of water above the thermocline, okay, and

(01:14:38):
looking for looking for pod to shad and looking for
anything that's got covered that range. I caught the biggest
one just out roaming under a school of shed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Oh wow. But you know, jig color.

Speaker 9 (01:14:48):
Jig colors are preference on for me as far as
what I've learned spotlighting. You put a jig in front
of a croppy, I don't care if it's clear. Black
and blue. Monkey milk is my go to color. Seems
to work on every lake. What the color is that
it's kind of a creamy, a creamy white color.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
GEA, that makes sense. It's got like a little black flex.
It's maybe some little ir that's in blue.

Speaker 9 (01:15:10):
It looks like it looks like just a young, young,
young Sure, just a good natural color.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
But you know, honestly, let's let's talk about lure color
for one minute. Okay. How much emphasis do you put
on color when you're fishing more than about either more
than about six feet deep or you're throwing a top water.
I actually I almost prefer a black top water over

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most because from underneath and especially in a little bit
deeper water because from underneath it's whatever color of the
lure is is silhouetted anyway by the bright sky behind it.

Speaker 10 (01:15:49):
Exactly exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:15:50):
I mean to me, you know, I'll throw a black
buzz bait three o'clock in the afternoon, sure bird sky
and catch fishing a little water.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Yeah yeah, Now a.

Speaker 9 (01:15:58):
Lake like you know, where your water is super clear,
you might throw a clear top water bait just to
get that, just to get that globe. But like you say,
you know, you can color the top water whatever you want,
but all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
They see is the belly. So yeah, I don't even
know why they paint the tops of them, to be honest,
you could say themselves paint cost exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:16:19):
The mean the top water selection is more about what
type of motion do you want? Do you have a
popping bait? Do you want a walking type bait? You know,
everybody you know pick up a bone colored top water
bait in any color baiting made and you'll catch fish.

Speaker 7 (01:16:32):
YEP.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
I couldn't agree more. I think there's the emphasis on
color selection is is something that the lower manufacturers do
because they've they've got to keep something new in front
of it. Just like fashion, well for other people, not
you and me. I'm not a big clothes hound anymore.
There was a time in my life when I was

(01:16:53):
younger and unmarried that it mattered a lot more. But
right now, I just just give me some shorts and
a shirt that's appropriate for fishing or golf or whatever,
and I'm pretty good to go.

Speaker 8 (01:17:08):
Exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:17:08):
It's like when I go to academy or something like that,
I send the gout one way and I go the
other way. Because you're gonna be bringing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
You fifty litresix and stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:17:15):
Pretty go go buy some shoes or something, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Shame on you. Oh, I'm gonna you're gonna get email
for that. They know where to find you on Facebook.
Now they're gonna rip you up for that.

Speaker 9 (01:17:28):
I mean, I love taking I love taking it out.
I'll tell her, Hey, you know, go fight what you like.
I'll take care of There's a whole got live action here.
Uh oh, what do you got about?

Speaker 8 (01:17:38):
That was about?

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
That was about a four inch bas turtle.

Speaker 7 (01:17:42):
Cat fish.

Speaker 9 (01:17:43):
If I didn't go to the dog Doug Pike school
of been to my been to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
My barbed No, don't blame that barblous hookie years. No way,
And by the way, you're I don't care how many
fish do you catch today Unless you catch at least
one turtle, you're not keeping up with me.

Speaker 9 (01:17:58):
Hey, there's there's plenty of them in this lake.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
I tell you for sure. Yeah, put some corn on
a hook and see what happens. Just dangle in front.

Speaker 8 (01:18:06):
I should have brought them. Matter.

Speaker 9 (01:18:07):
I'm just up here a little creek right now, because
soon as the dumb dumb boat show up, I'm gonna
get out of here and go to my primary property spot.

Speaker 7 (01:18:13):
And you know, I don't know if.

Speaker 9 (01:18:14):
You're listening to know what a dump dumb boat is,
but pretty much is just any boat that don't have
a troll motor on it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Oh my gosh, I.

Speaker 9 (01:18:21):
Just call them dumb dumb boat rule them well, you know,
And I mean that in the funnel.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Yeah, I know, I know you do. I'm not worried
about that. You know, there there are times when the
trolling motor is indispensable and you just kind of have
to ask yourself, how did we get by without them
for so long? But we got by without them by
grabbing tree limbs and dodging water mocks and falling out
of the trees and pulling ourselves up current and upstream

(01:18:50):
and up whatever we got away with setting up a
drift on the bay and hoping that the wind blew
you the way you thought it was gonna blow and
by the way you turns your motor and all that.
But boy, it's sure it is easier with the troll motor,
isn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:19:05):
Especially if you've got spot lock. You get out there
and get on them deep fish like I use my
power boat. Shall I've learned to power pull my boat
up against the bank and to have my nose out
of the boat, have my nose out deeper.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
But I'm out deep. I just shit the spot lock.

Speaker 9 (01:19:19):
And then you can just sit there and beat on them,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Yeah, absolutely you can, like you're doing right now, all right,
go catch a fish. Quit blaming me for you not
catching fish for us.

Speaker 9 (01:19:30):
That's not right, man, Always off one of today's I've
had a ninety percent, but.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
You yeah, yeah, yeah, be my barometer someone other than
me who can become an advocate for barblous hooks man,
because it just it saves a lot of fish, and
it saves a lot of headaches. If you stab yourself
with one.

Speaker 9 (01:19:47):
I mean, if you know how to fight fish and
just keep pressing on them, that's all you gotta know,
that's all you gotta do. I mean, if they come
up jumping, which crappie don't jump that much, and you
might lose a couple, but the first one you get
to get it down there in their gullet, and you
got to get there to pay appliers that it's an
undersized fish.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
You know you're gonna end up.

Speaker 9 (01:20:03):
You don't have killing fish more than you're gonna lose.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Isn't that the truth?

Speaker 8 (01:20:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
And I don't want to kill fish.

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
He got me, He got me hooked on it.

Speaker 9 (01:20:09):
Now all right, I'm not betting my bar down on
my flipping stick, but I will, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
God, I'll convert you someday. Thanks for It's just so
good to hear from you.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
All al right, audios, Oh pro forest out there in
the woods, well in the upper creek, somewhere of Lake Livingston,
catching crappie where no man dares to go. Seven one
three two one two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike
at iHeartMedia dot com. I'd be glad to have you,
glad to have you. I say, we are gonna take

(01:20:39):
a little break now and when we get back we
will continue the Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
American Shooting Centers Guns Shooting at Instruction since nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Now here's Doug Pike, nine o'clock straight up. Welcome back,
Doug Fake Show. Thanks for listening. Certainly do appreciate it.
On this pretty nice looking Saturday morning. I haven't looked
out the window to be true, to be totally transparent,
as I wish more politicians would be, but I'm suspecting
it still looks pretty nice out there that I think

(01:21:17):
the rain chance was twenty thirty, forty percent depending on
where you are, and that is scattered across a very
broad area there. You could put a ten percent chance
of rain here almost every day of the week, all
year long and be right far more than you're wrong.

(01:21:37):
I got an email that I want to I got
almost like a hiccup. I'm trying to shake and if
I pause, that may be why I want to look
at this email and share it with you. It's kind
of funny. This is from Kevin. Kevin sends me a
picture of a chocolate lab, a male chocolate lab puppy.

(01:21:59):
The introduce you to my new buddy, AKC Jake and
Bailey's buy you Blue, or as we call him Blue.
This dog's mother was an eighty one pound English yellow lab.
The father of this dog ninety eight pounds of American

(01:22:20):
chocolate lab. That is a big Labrador retriever. Just just
to look at that, I'm want to send you this picture, Melvin,
hold on, I want to I want to forward it
to Melvin and mey Elvey. That should get you in there.
Click okay and send okay. And and while he's looking

(01:22:45):
for the picture, take that off there, take that off there.
That's fine. The continuation says, where did it go? Yeah,
it says, he says, pray for me and my house.
Because Labrador Retrievers when they are puppies, when they are teething,

(01:23:06):
when they are just happy, go lucky, and don't think
they can do anything wrong, and are pretty sure you're
not gonna do anything to them even if they do,
because they're so dog on cute. This one's kind of
right in the wheelhouse of and you can see from
the expression on his face Melvin, tell me if I'm wrong.

(01:23:27):
So I'm gonna break something today, Is that what he's saying. Yeah,
he's saying, I'm going to get into something. I'm gonna
choose something. I'm gonna tear something up. And we're not
even gonna go into bathroom issues with Blue. My middle
name is damage. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's a he might

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want to be thinking about.

Speaker 8 (01:23:51):
That. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
I got my dog. I had the best dog I
ever owned running. His name was Bo, and it is
actually his paper's name. His AKC name was Turbo High
Speed Retrieve, and no dog ever lived better up to that. Now,
some of the females, actually the smaller females, were a
little bit quicker than he was, but when it was

(01:24:14):
time to go get something, he went and got it
and he brought it back, and for that I'm forever grateful. However,
that dog I got as a tip that I didn't
know I was gonna get when there was a brief
time when I had no dog, and I got Bo
as a tip from a veterinarian friend of mine who's
long since passed, unfortunately, but one of the nicest guys

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I ever knew, and he brought that dog out there.
He gave it to me on the leash, and it
was it was like a jack rabbit on the leash
the whole time. This dog was only a few months
old and brand new to hunting and just was having
the time of its life. And I brought that dog
in and trained him and mostly just baptism under fire.

(01:24:56):
That dog started hunting with me. Almost every day. I
would check with my hundred said, look, i've got a
young dog I'm trying to bring. Oh, yeah, bring him,
It's fine, no problem at all. I don't remember maybe
one or two groups said no, don't bring a puppy
into our spread. Okay, I'm not gonna guide you guys
anymore because you're not cool. In any event, that dog
learned and was fascinating and to watch and to see

(01:25:19):
how quickly he picked up on what I wanted him
to do, is to see things that he learned on
his own that made him more efficient in his on
which which verds he would go after first. And the
bottom line though, is this first the first year, maybe
year and a half with that dog, he had so
much puppy energy and was just tearing stuff up, digging holes,

(01:25:43):
chewing stuff, and there was a time when the neighbor,
now when he got a little older, actually a time
when the neighbor's dog went into heat and we had
to keep him inside, and he knew what was up,
and he actually chewed holes in the metal blinds in
the dining room, or not in the dining room, but

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the breakfast room of that house. That's how determined he was.
And when he finally was let out in the yard
to go to the bathroom, he'd set the back door
and wine wine, wine. He'd go out, go to the
bathroom and then run straight over to that fence and
start chewing on the fence boards. That was bo great

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dog and great dog, A little crazy. I just kind
of like me. I was pretty crazy back then too.
Absolutely loved having that dog by my side though every
time I had him out there. What a fantastic retrieving
dog that was. All right, Back to the surf for
a minute. If you ignore Galveston and the sandy water

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we have this morning there and start looking farther and
farther down the coast, we're in a window now. I
don't want to jinx it, okay, but we're in a
window of fairly calm water fairly clean water if you
go to the right place. Is a friend of mine, actually,
a very old good friend of mine, all the way
back from high school, sent me an email the other

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day talking about his secret spot that he wades that
tends to clean up a little bit better than most
on this upper coast. And I'm not going to reveal
where it is, because I've always promised him I wouldn't,
And he says it's still relatively uncrowded most days down
there for people who are willing to make about a
fifteen or twenty minute farther drive than some others. So anyway,

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that's the only hint I can give you. But it
does work out well, and it's worked out for him
for the last the better part of the last well
since the hurricane. Anyway, there have been some fish where
he fishes down there along the coast. The farther down
you go, the better it gets. And this past week
in fact, down there kind of shifting gears. And I'm
going to get to golf here in just a second,

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but this past weekend and week it's been really good.
Once you get past maybe Port O'Connor and get down
toward North Padre Island, that North Padre Island Seashore has
been absolutely fantastic for the past the past week at least,
and maybe a little bit more. All right, let's shift it,

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let's shift gears, do a little golf and start with
what's on. Really, most golfers' minds right now like to
observe and watch and see what's going on. The men's
Olympic golf competition ongoing over there at Le Golf Nacionale
de Parie and leading Tommy Fleetwood at thirteen. This is

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through two rounds and they're into Actually some of the
players have already finished their third rounds now they are
six seven hours. In fact, most of the players as
I scroll down, have finished their third rounds, but not
Tommy Fleetwood. Fleetwood is currently leading at thirteen under par
with just two scores hosted. John Rahm is at twelve

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alone in second place two full rounds. Nikolai Holguard shot
sixty two today after opening with a pair of seventies
and currently finds himself tied for third place with Xander
Schaffley at eleven under part. Shoffley not on the course yet,

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so I suspect that a lot of these guys are
going to go ahead and get beyond. Either stay beyond
or get beyond Hoguard in his sixty two But nonetheless,
if he snaps a quick screenshot of the leaderboard right now,
he would be tied for bronze medalist Ludwig Oberg, Jason Day,

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Rory McElroy, Alejandro Tosty, and Scottie Scheffler. You can never
count that guy out. Two rounds left to play and
he's only three shots off the lead. Don't hang up
the phone on Scotty. They're all at ten under oh
as is Thomas Detri and Hideki Matsuyama all at ten

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under par. That's what seven eight seven guys. I think
it is all tied for fifth place, just three shots
off the lead, and then it goes on from there
to a lot of very qualified players from around the world.
Any it's anybody's guests, with still two rounds to play,

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who is gonna win the Olympic golf competition. And I
kind of like the way it's working out. I like
the golf course. I've seen some of it, not a lot,
but I do like the way it's panning out. And
I do like the fact that they didn't make it
overwhelmingly difficult to score there. The scores are reflective of
a challenging golf course, but not something that's trumped up

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and tricked up to where it's gonna it's gonna cause
ridiculous problems. Most of the scores. Let me see here. Yeah,
the top forty the top top forty three players, I know, yeah,
at one under par or better. And if you bring
in the evens, there's forty seven of them who are

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even par or better through at least two rounds, and
many of them through three rounds. So they're they're managing
to put some good scores out there, and I'm glad
to see that. Seven one three, two one two five
seven ninety email me, dugpick At iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 7 (01:31:27):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
Just there's so much going on right now, and we
are once again, I'm gonna make sure I don't jinx anything.
We're seeing a little bit of a nice pattern. We've
got this nice light offshore breeze, which is nice. Well,
I said nice three times. I apologize for that. That's
kind of redundant and ridiculous. I'm looking at the wet
or the wind velocities along the coast right now. Ten

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miles an hour at the galveson North Jetty is the
highest number I can find on the coast, all the
way down. Let me scroll a little bit and see
if I'm may get a mistake. Oh no, oh my gosh.
That is the highest number along the entire Gulf coast
of Texas, just ten miles an hour. And that's the

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that's the outlier. That's the one. And now it's down
to nine. Good heavens. Let me go get Jeff on
the phone, see what's on his mind. Real quick, Hey, Jeff,
what's up, buddy?

Speaker 5 (01:32:22):
I wanted to see morning.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
How are you?

Speaker 8 (01:32:24):
I wanted to see what your schedule is when you're
trying to get out. I'm trying to take my time,
and I guess we'll find out where your take is
and whether this dome or whatever we have is going
to break up at least the the temperature might go
down to three degrees or something that would make a difference.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Three degrees would I don't know, make me. I guess
it would be able. I'd be able to leave the
first tea box or start a fishing trip with a
presumption that I'm going to survive and not burst into flames.
Rather than probably thinking I might. Uh yeah, I haven't
paid attention, honestly to the dome of heat that's been

(01:33:02):
kind of camped out a little farther north. If I
were recall, is it sitting on top of us now?
Because I'm trying to get more information, I'm not sure.

Speaker 8 (01:33:14):
I was trying to get some decent information and they
waste my search. They're talking about last year and what
people think, and the local news people don't give you
any details. Maybe that's fight you had mentioned over the
during the storm might have some more detail. I just
wanted some detail when I could stay active. I don't
want to be a shut in because it's hot.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Yeah, you know we Honestly, I haven't really paid that
much attention to the heat this summer because, knock on wood,
we haven't even sniffed a hundred and last year we
were what about in the middle of thirty forty days
of it, So I'm feeling like it's relatively comfortable compared
to this past summer.

Speaker 8 (01:33:55):
When I'm checking that along the little scales, it looks
like humidity as Liverpool. This is just Dallas or Austin
type sheet, so maybe it's a little bit different. I'm
not thinking it's West Texas, but it's popping up, and
do feel like temperatures over one hundred and maybe those
are bogus too?

Speaker 7 (01:34:13):
Is it depends on where you are.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Yeah, the feel like thing is a lot. It's pretty
humidity dependent, I feel like, and then of cour if
you get a breeze and humidity, that's almost like being
in a convection of it, and it is gonna feel
pretty hot. But I tend to ignore feel like temperatures
because I want the thermometer temperature. And I've lived here

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long enough to know that if the thermometer says ninety
five and it's really human, it's gonna feel like ninety
five in a sauna. And if it's ninety five and
you've got a west or a northwest wind blowing dry
air across this, it's not gonna be so unbearable that
you have to change your shirt every three holes in
around the gulf.

Speaker 8 (01:34:57):
So I don't know enough about Excuse me, I'm sorry
about that night. The sea breeze could kind of save you.

Speaker 10 (01:35:05):
At night.

Speaker 8 (01:35:05):
At least you can even go out to dinner and
sit outside. All the difference in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
So well, yeah, well, this time of year. That water
temperature down there is in the high eighties and even
sometimes low nineties right on the beach, so it's not
an absolute savior even down there. It's still gonna be
sticky on the Gulf coast, but we live on the
coast and it's not a bad place to be.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
I'm enjoying the show.

Speaker 8 (01:35:31):
I guess until Halloween, which is usual.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
It's about right. Unfortunately, you're spot on. Hopefully he'll be
cooled off by then. We won't have to worry about
trick or treating in overcoats, that's for sure. We never do. Hey, Jeff,
It's always a pleasure. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate the
call man, Bubby. Yeah, the heat and dome and all
of that. I'm not a I'm not a big follower

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of summer heat, even so much as I am winter cool.
I like in the cool fronts roll down, as long
as they're not gonna drop us into the teens. They
bring welcome relief from some often unusually warm days in
winter around here. I've talked before about how back in
the day, when everybody talks about how hot it's getting. Now,

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I can vividly remember Christmas days when we lived in
Sharpstown and I was there for ten or eleven years.
I guess it was ten years. I think it was, yeah, ten,
because I played out my first year of Little League
in when I was ten, and we were still here
at Sharpstown and going out and playing in the yard
in a T shirt and short pants, or even no

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shirt and short pants. A lot of times boys didn't
even put on shirts to go out and play, just
running around playing on Christmas Day and it's eighty eighty
five degrees, it seemed like. And throughout wintertime there were
plenty of days when it was hot enough to just
put on enough to cover yourself privately and get out
there and play with guys out in the street or

(01:37:01):
in the yards or wherever we went and played and
just hot as a spring or fall day in the
middle of winter. Yeah, temperature's gonna the climate. I'm not
gonna get in. Yeah, well, I'm already running for late
for a break. The climate has changed since there's been
a climate, and it changes one way for a lot
of time, and then it changes another way for a

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lot of time, and it always does that, always will.

Speaker 4 (01:37:27):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety A Houston sports fan
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Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
At contact back to the Doug Fike Show. All right,
welcome back Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Really enjoyed talking to Cowboys and MASKI out there at
Phoenix Knives. He's going to be a nice addition to
the family around here. He really is appreciate him jumping
in and helping me with the with the military appreciation

(01:37:57):
piece as well. That's such a it means a lot
to me, it really does. I didn't serve in our military.
I had a draft number during the Vietnam War, actually,
but it never it never came up. It was never
my turn, and I wanted to go to school. I
wanted to do what I wanted to do, and by

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the time I was even eligible, things were kind of
winding down. I did have friends who went over there.
There was at least one young man from our high
school who died over there, and I hated that, I
really did. That was a tough one to go through.

(01:38:44):
And I want the history of the military because every
every war ends up causing great suffering, great loss at
the individual level, and it seems kind of the least
I can do to put these features together so that
some people who have gone all their young lives without

(01:39:08):
ever really experiencing anything remotely similar to this country being
involved in a significant war.

Speaker 6 (01:39:16):
We have.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
We have fought and lost military personnel around the world
quite a bit in the last twenty thirty years. But
it doesn't make front page news because it's not it's
not touching too many people. It just I don't understand

(01:39:39):
why that's not a headline every time it happens. I
really don't. That's significant. It should be, it should be
talked about more, because talking about it more maybe would
make people more aware of the suffering that goes on
when when somebody finds out that in a time when
we talk about not being at war, are us military

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person that or losing their life it's overwhere. Oh, it
doesn't matter. I don't want to go in I'm not
going to It does matter, but I'm not going to
go into it right now because I don't want to
bring everybody down. I want to make sure that we
get through the outdoor stuff, the good stuff. I almost
walk down that rabbit hole and I don't want to
do that. So back to the good stuff that's going
on around here. And I talked about it briefly, I

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didn't get quite down the coast where I wanted to.
When I talk about fishing the surf, and it's boy,
I know I'm not letting any cat out of the
bag when I talk about when I talk about the
Corpus Christi area, and when I talk about the North
Padre Island shoreline. And I also know enough about that

(01:40:44):
area down there that there are still some, well not
to locals, but at least to people from up here,
some semi secret spots where if you or I or
anybody else drives down there and casually try to go fish,
you might not necessarily find Cliff Web, you might not

(01:41:05):
necessarily find Carlin Level. But those are the ones an
old man. Cliff's an old man, Carl is a young man.
They know places that we don't know, and fortunately I've
been able to learn from them, under sworn secrecy, kind
of how to look for some of these places, and

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how to understand when to go to which of them
to get the best out of it. The bottom line
is that North Padre Island Shoreline. You don't have to
be a you don't have to have a PhD in
surf waiting to kind of get down there on the
right day and catch some fish. And by fish I
mean anything from anything from a two pound speckle trout

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to a forty pound tarpin or a fifteen pound snook,
or any of an any other number of fish that
are in there two dozen skipjacks. That's not exactly what
you're going down there for, but it happens. And you
also just may may get stomped by about an eight

(01:42:14):
or ten pounds speckle trout. That also could happen if
you're down there fishing that surf. And the good news
is is that beach front can be good almost anywhere.
If you do, you park the car, you get out,
and you walk up and down that beach till you
get a bite. You probably won't have to walk super
far on the right day. And if you walk too
far with no bites, then get back in your car

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and move a mile or a half mile, or go
to Packery Channel, or go to one of the new
cuts that's been opened up a little farther north. They
are all kinds of beautifully fishable water. Cliff sent me
pictures this week Cliff web of a snook, one of
two that one of his good friends caught down there.

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And this guy he fishes every day, almost every day,
and he runs strings to day. He's fishing because he retired,
he had nothing better to do, and he's still as
passionate about it as he was when he was a kid.
But he walks that Packery channel Jetty with throwing a big,
big lure or something about the size of your hand,

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and he knows he's not gonna get many bites, but
he also knows that in sacrificing those bites, when he
does get bit it's going to be something of significance.
And the significance of the last two bites he got,
which were the first two he's gotten in probably two weeks,
a pair of snook that were both just monsters for Texas,

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just beautiful, big fish. That's what's in the back of
my mind every time I fish Packery, every time I
fished the beach front down there. I want a snook.
I love big speckled trout, I really do. I love
a tarpin, but I want a snook because that's probably
my favorite fish. I like catching them more than I

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do tarpin. I couldn't tell you why. They're both fantastic
kind of A one and two or one A in
A one B almost and speckle trout because they're more
plentiful or high up on the list. I can't put
them down to number two. That wouldn't be fair, So
I'll make them one C and then fourth place goes

(01:44:33):
to the redfish because I still like catching them as well.
They're just so strong and just don't like being bullied.
When you rare back on a red fish, it lets
you know that you're gonna be there for a minute,
and I like that about red fish. I like the
way speckle trout jump. I like the way they taste.

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Nothing wrong with a big speckl trout. I love seeing
big speckl trout do what they do trying to get
that lure out of their mouths. I don't, by the way,
quick quick support for barbarous hooks. I don't lose many
speckled trout, even as much as they jump, even as
good as they are, it's shaking plugs. As long as
you keep that line tight, you've still got a very
good chance of land in that fish and virtually no

(01:45:16):
chance of having to go to the hospital to get
a hook out of you. If that happens if you've
mashed that barb down properly. This noook fight, jump taste everything, powerhouse,
all muscle, just muscle and mouth and tail and eyeballs.
They got to see what they're eating. Tarpin similar, they're

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kind of they're the acrobats on steroids. They like to
come out of the water, especially the smaller ones. About
a fifteen to twenty pounds tarpin is as as much
fun as you can have with something on a hook.
I think that's not gonna take forever. By the way,
a big tarpin is gonna beat you down. A smaller

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tarpin is gonna make it a little bit easier on you,
but you still get the great You get a better
show even then with the big ones. But they're all fun,
they really are, and they're all snapping right now. Depending
on where you are, and if you fish long enough
and hard enough, you're gonna get bit by all of
those things up and down the beach front down there
along the north padre. And if you fish long enough

(01:46:19):
and hard enough up here, the tarpain you catch may
not be little, and you may not catch many, but
when you do get a bite, the average of a
little near shore now, not inshore. I haven't heard much
about tarpain being caught in our bay system in a
lot of years. We used to catch them back when
I was a rookie, basically at the newspaper. Go out

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there with some of the best known guys around here
and James and Mickey and Blaine, and I don't want
to start naming names or I'll forget somebody, but we
caught them in Galaston Bay. Big ones, big fish now
the ones along the beach front, anywhere from fifty to
one hundred and fifty pounds. They're still fun. I haven't
heard of a snook up here lately. And the closest

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I got up here in modern times, I guess you'll
call it since I've been really paying attention was the
one I saw, and I've talked about it before, that
was caught off the surfside Jetty. I watched the kid
catch him, and he told me he caught a bigger
one the day before they're here. I had one strike
right at dark on that surfside Jetty on the top water.

(01:47:23):
That after having caught as many snook as I have
done in South Texas and over in Florida. I know
what it sounds like when a snook eats, and it's
different than when a trout eats. And that almost certainly
was a snook. It was too dark to really see,
but that was as close as I've come to catching
one up here. This far good. Heavens. I look up
and I'm a little bit on the late side. I

(01:47:44):
apologize for that. We'll take a little break here on
the way out. I'm gonna tell you about Kobe Stevens.

Speaker 4 (01:47:50):
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Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
We'll get that information to them. This is the Doug
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on SPOS Talk seven ninety. Thanks for listening, certainly to
appreciate it. We got back. Did we get back that
late that it's almost already time for the other break?
Oh my gosh? What did I What did I yack
about for so long? I don't know important information. I

(01:48:18):
got a very interesting email from Steve uh when Jeff
was asking about the the high Pressure Dome and all
the heat and whatnot, and Steve brought up a pretty
good point. I'll never complain, Steve writes, I'll never complain
about a dome of high pressure over us, because that

(01:48:44):
means a hurricane is not coming in here. I have
I'm kind of right in line with that. I would
much rather be hot than being blown around like a
rag doll. And just yeah, that makes pretty good sense.
It really does makes pretty good sense. Seven one three

(01:49:07):
two one two five seven ninety Email and me, Dougpike
at iHeartMedia dot com. Public service gentle reminder from from
mom aka me. Under these kind of circumstances, it is
hot out there. Okay, it is hot, and for those
of us who are not sixteen or eighteen or twenty
or thirty or forty or even fifty anymore, pay attention

(01:49:31):
to your hydration. I heard about somebody just the other
day on a golf course who got overheated, who had
been drinking but not water, and got kind of got
kind of dicey for the guy. They he didn't. Nothing
bad happened overall in the long run went In the

(01:49:52):
short run, he was he was hurting and in trouble,
and fortunately things things went well. But I don't want
that to happen to anybody in this audience. I presume,
of course, that most of this audience, most of my
audience is savvy enough and understands heat enough, and has

(01:50:13):
lived here long enough to realize that it does get
hot and with the humidity. Something about humidity that just
sucks all the moisture out of you. It's interesting because
the first real experience I had with dryer air, I
went to school in Mobile, Alabama. It is just as
humid as it is here. But I was up in
the Panhandle doing some physical activity at pigeon shoots. Okay,

(01:50:39):
I was up there working the throwing side of some
pigeon shoots, and it's a lot of physical exercise, and
I wasn't sweating. I couldn't believe it. Why am I
not sweating? It's so hot. It was one hundred degrees
one hundred degrees and I'm not sweating. Oh yeah, it's
dry heat up here. Well, okay, I get it, dry heat,

(01:51:00):
but I'm just waiting for me to sweat. They said, no,
you need to be drinking a lot of water. Believe me,
even though you don't feel it, even though you're not
soaking wet like you would be in Houston. You need
the water. So I started drinking the water and down
here because we're sweating so much, we can kind of

(01:51:20):
physically see it, so we know to replace that water.
But wherever you bar, whenever you are this time of year,
if it's eighty five or ninety degrees or higher, just
hit the water and hit the electrolytes a little bit.
I've been told by a couple of doctors and a
couple of trainers maybe not to hammer back two big
gatorades at a time and at one hundred percent strength,

(01:51:43):
because that just tells your body that it's overloaded on
electrolytes and it'll kind of slow down its own production.
But mix them about fifty to fifty with water, and
don't drink super icy water either. Ice water. Your body
has to warm it up before it can process it
and get it in to your system to help you.
So just drink kind of cool or even room temp

(01:52:06):
or even just sitting out in the sun water and
your body can start using that faster. Let's get to Brandon. Brandon,
what's up, Good.

Speaker 10 (01:52:15):
Morning, mister Pike.

Speaker 11 (01:52:16):
You hit it in the nail on the head. Oh boy,
that's what I was gonna say. No, I mean, that's
not everybody thinks, Oh gatorade gatorade, gatorade. No, you have
to mix the two. You've got it. You've got to
mix the electrolytes with pure water. And uh, you said it,
you said it best. But I will have to say this,
this is probably the mildest summer that we're in. August.

(01:52:39):
We should be over one hundred. Absolutely, and I'm not
trust me, I'm not complaint.

Speaker 8 (01:52:45):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
Well, if we get if we get a high pressure
dome that pushes our temperature to ninety four, it's still
high pressure and it still works the same on the
Gulf of Mexico to keep stuff out of here. It
doesn't have to be a hundred to work that way.
It just has to be high pressure. And I'll take
a few more days of this. I can live with that. Yeah,

(01:53:08):
we knock on wood. We have made it to August
now without anything serious, and hopefully we won't have anything.

Speaker 11 (01:53:15):
We'll just have to see, Yes, sir, I agree. And
like I said, I mean, we're right around the corner
before some real good cool fronts come in. Deal season
is right around the corner, and.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
Dove seasons two weeks before that. Yes, there we are.

Speaker 11 (01:53:31):
They're looking up.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Yeah, it's August to third. We're inside a month and
it three months ago. I didn't think we'd ever get here,
but here it is. Time's going to pass with us
or without us, you know, and hopefully hopefully a lot
of time with.

Speaker 11 (01:53:45):
Us, Yes, sir, but it has been a very mild
summer compared to years past.

Speaker 10 (01:53:51):
Very good.

Speaker 11 (01:53:52):
I have no complaints, no.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Not at all. But nobody's talking about that on TV, are.

Speaker 11 (01:53:57):
They, No, sir, it's so much garbage out right now.
It's unbelievable. You got a way through the waste to
get to the truth, and that's a crime change.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
That's a very deep way too, all right, Yes, sir, Yeah,
thanks a bunch brand. It's great to hear from you, man, Yes, sir,
thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:54:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
Keep the electrolytes coming, but in moderation, if you if
you get yourself a Gatorade of power aid whatever after
nine holes, because you think you need it, just take
a few SIPs and drink some water. Just put two
bottles out there, one water and one one Gatorade or
whatever until you get about halfway through, and then just
pour the water into the gateorade bottle. Get it down

(01:54:40):
where your body can process it. Fastest and get it working.
And if somebody does get in in serious trouble with
the heat around you, I'll go back to the tip
that my my trainer in baseball over in Mobile used
to use, and that is to take an ice bag
and not put it on your wrists, not put it
on your neck, but just kind of pull the belt

(01:55:02):
and the front of your pants down a little bit
and get that stuff just below your belly button, between
your belly button and you're growing, to be specific, is
where he would when when guys got overheated on the
baseball field, And it happened a lot over there, as
you might suspect, we're about on the same line as
Mobile is, and right there on the coast had plenty

(01:55:24):
of humidity and all in heat that will that will
cool you off as fast as anything. It really, it
really did work miracles on some of us who got
overheated after running and running and running and hitting and
throwing and doing all that we had to do as
a major college baseball team. So one three, two, one two,

(01:55:46):
five seven ninety Email me Doug Picke at iHeartMedia dot com.
Good grief, we got to get this break out of here. Melviney.

Speaker 4 (01:55:53):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety Houston, Sports Online at
Sports seven ninety dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
Back to the Doug Bike Show. All right, Welcome back,
Doug Pike Show, ONS four SOX seven ninety. Not a
whole lot of time left to wrap up. Uh, be
careful in the heat. Watch out for snakes. Two times
I nearly stepped on snakes this week. Two times, one
venomous snake won a non venomous snake. But both times

(01:56:23):
I would rather not have been bitten, even by a
non venomous snake. And I've been nipped a few times
by them, uh not not from a leg bite, not
one that just jumped up and bit me on the leg.
Mostly it was my pet snakes that we're chewing on me.
But the long and the short of it is, they're
out there now. So look at this. I've already cleaned
it out for you. I'm just ready to go in

(01:56:44):
just like one minute. You're a giver, Doug Pike, Yeah
that's me. What do you think of the new this
new picture we got for the Astros. As long as
you're gonna I'm presuming you're gonna say something about Kakuchi today.
I was gonna say.

Speaker 6 (01:56:56):
I think he's probably gonna be a topic of conversation
a little bit. Uh started out rocky, but uh, you know,
kind of you know, to do a nautical reference right here.
Once he got out of the no wake zone right there,
he was, he was able to cruise a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
He was good. Yeah, he looked really. I didn't see
the first part of the game, so I didn't know
how we got to do nothing and all that. We
just what is it about the Astros always spotting.

Speaker 6 (01:57:19):
The overtame two or three runs and then coming up
and going three up, three down in the first inning. Yeah,
it's it's it's been a kind of a little bit
of a record right there. Not a broken record, although
there was a record broken last night.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
So which one? Oh strikeouts? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember
hearing about that. God, I'd love to have seen him
get a couple more, but it's just the way it goes.
It's all right, they're gonna be.

Speaker 6 (01:57:43):
Okay, you think, Yeah, I mean that we're going to
talk about it here on the show today.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
Don't don't spoil anything. Here's my music already. I'm gonna
be out here. It's a tease, man, It's a tease.
It's there. Yeah, but no, I mean there's reason to
stay optimistic. Is there reason to be optimistic? Also about
the Texans very much, no reason, no doubt. They're ranked
pretty high, are they not?

Speaker 6 (01:58:04):
I don't Yeah, no, they're They've got a good they've
got a good club. And you know, he didn't get
a chance to see a ton of the veterans the
other night. But still there's there's a reason to be excited.

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
You can be excited about all of that, and about
the fact that I'm gonna come back and talk about
the outdoors and Olympic golf and all that good stuff.
Tomorrow we will be back here at eight o'clock. We'll
talk more outdoors and golf then until then, stick around.
Dan Matthews is next on Sports Talk seven ninety

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