The Doug Pike Show 9-14-24

Its teal season. Doug talks to listers and they share stories of there hunting trips. Doug gives hunters tips on how to fight the mosquitoes during their hunt. Get and update on quail, turkey, duck, goose, crane, and rabbit/hare seasons. Also, archery season on deer. Fishing stories and update on croaker fish. Plus, a caller talks about white tail season in the state of  Pennsylvania.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now Here's Doug Pike.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Saturday Morning edition of.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
The program starts right now. Tidy up a little bit
in here. Thank you all for joining me. I certainly
do appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm gonna put that over there.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
There's just so much stuff on this console. I don't
know why it takes me so much junk. That's not
even the right mouse. This is the right mouse. I'm
gonna move this out of my way so i can
see what I've got going on. All right, boy, things
are popping out there now and literally and figuratively. Teal

(00:48):
season opens this morning. Dove season still open, and it's
a good day for both. I think most of the
hunters would prefer based on what I'm looking at. Wait
a minute, no, I don't want to change that. I
don't even want to say that. I just want to

(01:09):
get it out of my face. Get off the screen. Boo.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Go.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
The wind is what I'm talking about. And now that
I can settle in here, I'll go and take a
look at it. What's going on is very little wind
right now now it started. It's already started to come
up down on the coast. It was almost calm early
this morning, very little but hardly any double digit wind values.

(01:38):
And already i'm seeing ten thirteen, fourteen as you go
down the coast, a little more of course thirteen again.
But really even that is not enough wind to keep
mosquitoes at bay. And that's what teal hunters worry about
the most up where we are.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Zeros. Oh, man, I feel so sorry.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
If you're in a teal blind right now, call, I'll
commiserate with you. You've got to be miserable. The mosquitoes have
got to be horrible. And that's probably the one the
one thing that makes that keeps teal hunting from being

(02:22):
positively you fork just oh, it's just one of the
best things you could ever imagine, And that's the mosquitoes,
because otherwise it's the first shot you got at waterfowl.
They're typically plentiful by now and are from what I've heard.
We're gonna be talking to Mitchell Holder by the way
around eight o'clock and probably he and his hunters will

(02:48):
be finished with their and probably probably finished packed up
and halfway home. By eight if things go the way
they typically do during teal season, and that goes from
both sides of the town too, So it's left of
the prairies, and by that I mean any place that well,
how about half the prairies are chewed up now with

(03:10):
development and warehouses and whatnot. But what's left out there,
If it's got water on it, it's probably got teal
on it, and that goes for stock tanks, it goes
for irrigation canals. I had some pretty good teal hunts,
believe it or not, on some really windy days, and
irrigation canals. That was a long time ago. I don't
know if that still works anymore. Bottom line is, it's

(03:32):
a lot of fun to be out there. It's a
great chance to get back into the swing of things.
If you didn't make Duve open the Douve opener last
weekend September one, and then here we are all the
way in the middle of September now on the fourteenth,
and it's not going to be long until everything just
everything opens up. Plenty of mosquitoes out there to go

(03:55):
with the teal, and in some cases, I'm kind of
curious to know if there's anything better, And how you
rate thermocel against deep woods, off against all the cutters,
against all.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Of the.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Barriers we are able to place between us and mosquitoes.
If you found a surefire away to be able to
just sit out there, take your shirt off, and not
worry about mosquitos this time of year, I'd love to
hear it, because I never found it. The best I
ever did. When I was a guide, I would get
my hunters out there, and whether we were on a

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levee around a stock tank, or whether we were in
a rice field or in a proper duck blind, no
matter what it was this time of year, I always
packed in a couple of cans of yard guard, this
standard issue raid yard garden. And as soon as well,
first before you even get out of your car, you

(04:53):
put something on. And I don't care what it makes
the car smell like, because you can't afford to get
out of the car with nothing on them. So we
would slather ourselves inside the car, usually with a little
just a little pump spray, not an aerosol, because that
just gets in the seats and the and the whole car.

(05:14):
It just you can't or truck and you can't get
away from it. So we'd slather up a little bit
and then get out and immediately I would spray some
yard guard around where we were trying to get dressed
and get the decoys and all that stuff, just a
little a temporary shelter, if you will. And then as
we would get into them, get into the field and

(05:35):
be headed out there.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Kind of keep everybody close, get them out there.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
And as soon as I got to where we were
going to hunt, whether it was blind levy or whatever,
I would set up a perimeter of yard guard, just
to let them know that we weren't playing around and
we weren't going.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
To be chewed up all day.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
You get the decoys out real quick, you get back
into your your sanctuary, and then and I would give
it just another quick dusting with the yard guard.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
And honestly, in a Doug.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Blinde, you can stand there and you can hear them,
you can hear them buzzing outside of your perimeter that
you've set up, but by and large, they don't try
to get through it.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
They can't.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
They just can't bring themselves. They can't fly and hold
their noses at the same time. I think that's what
it is. So they stay outside, You stay cozy and
comfy inside, and you enjoy your teal hunting for ten,
twenty thirty minutes, forty five minutes, whatever. And then as
soon as as soon as one mosquito breaks the barrier

(06:38):
and bites one person in your charge, you just respray
the whole place, just start over.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
And it really did work.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
It wasn't fool proof for all the obvious reasons in
a prairie hunting situation. It didn't keep everybody from getting
bitten at all, but it certainly he made a big difference.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
It certainly made teal hunting.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
It left you where you could enjoy the teal hunt
rather than focus on the mosquitoes.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
And they do get bad this time of year. Oh
my gosh.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
My favorite story to share about how bad mosquitoes get
comes from many years ago, and I've told it before,
so bear with me. But my friend Philip Mount was
on his way to a teal hunt one morning and
he told me, he said, yeah, I'm gonna call you
on the show when I get out to the blind
And he called a little later than I thought he would,

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and talking to him on the air, what's going on, Philip, Oh,
we had to bail out. We had to get out
of the field. The mosquitoes were so bad that my
dog was choking on them when he was trying to breathe, Like, yeah,
that's pretty bad. And I don't blame him for getting
out of there. I wouldn't have wanted to be around that.
And I'm certain that dog was glad to get back

(07:53):
in the truck and get on the get on the
highway and run it up to about seventy five or
eighty and roll all the window down and.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Just suck those little beasts out of there. Not fun.
Not fun hunting with mosquitoes, Holy cow.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety Email
Medugpike at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
So we've got that going on now. The dove hunting
typically in a drier environment, and.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
It's since it's since it's not rained significantly for the
last several days, that ought to be fairly comfortable, even
though it's gonna be calm, and the calmness for dove
nteal hunters, the calmness is a benefit because that that
keeps the birds from doing crazy stuff. When they're flying.
They'll typically go ahead and fly in a slightly slightly

(08:42):
straighter line, if you will. Doves tend to bounce off
the wind a lot more. They're a little bit lighter
and not quite as strong as a teal. But those
teal man, when they get going, they can they can
turn like a cutting horse. It's amazing how fast and
how and how they can and do it all in
sync too, not just one of them turning off and

(09:04):
going out as an outlier. Fifty t will come into
the decoys, and when they decide to turn left, they
all turn left. When they decide to go up, they
all get out of there like an F sixteen, just
straight up and hard out. You got to be patient
with teal. You got to make sure that you give
them a chance to give you a really good shot.

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As long as you don't scare them, as long as
they don't spook, a lot of times they'll make those
early passes, the prepasses, if you will, just to make
sure it's a safe place to settle in, and if
you can convince them, if you can keep everybody quiet,
you can keep the dog still, you can keep everybody

(09:44):
still heading up real good. They'll make four or five
runs by you acting like they don't like it. Then
maybe they're gonna come in, maybe they're not. And then
finally they'll turn it into the wind, whatever little breeze
there is and throw those duck those bottoms down, wings up,
straight out, vertical and they'll they'll put on the brakes

(10:07):
and drop in for you. Give them a chance, give
me a chance, they'll do that. We're gonna talk about
that today. We can talk about fishing. There's certainly a
lot of fishing news going on now that hunting seasons started.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
It always happens this way.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
It's just a good season to live in Southeast Texas
or South Texas, or East Texas or West Texas, Texas. Period,
it's a good season, a good time of year to
be here. Everything's going off. As the weather starts to
cool on the lakes up inland, bass fishing's gonna kick
back into high gear. Those fish, those fish need to
fatten up before before winter, and they're gonna start doing

(10:43):
it as soon as we get one or two more
little fronts through here. It's all good, as they say,
it's all good, Malbourn. You got any weekend plans you're
going anywhere doing anything?

Speaker 5 (10:55):
No, I don't have anything planned, Just looking for uh
ford to making some groceries at the grocery store.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Boy, good luck, would you get a raised or so
you's bragging now you can afford groceries, right?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Holy cow man, that's about the sum up my weekend.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
How anybody can want four more years of what we
just went through? Four more years on steroids, by the way,
because one candidate is even worse than the other if
you start looking at the records real quick.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
I don't want to get into that.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
I really don't, so uh deal season going, Duve season going,
And then maybe when we get back, I'll kind of
give you the rundown of where the rest of the
seasons fall on the calendar. We're already halfway through September,
for having sakes, and the good news about that is
we've made it halfway through September.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
We did get a hurricane, there's no question about that.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
But every day that we go without another one is
a day we get closer to when we finally can
just breathe a little bit.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
I'll talk about that too.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
There is something out in the Atlantic Ocean, and I'll
tell you spoiler alert.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
It's not supposed to come anywhere near us.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
In fact, it's supposed to take a hard rite and
go north and just fall apart in the Atlantic Ocean,
which would suit me just fine.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
We'll take a little.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Break of This is the Doug Pike Shaw seven nineteen
on Sports Talk seven to ninety. Thanks for listening, certainly,
do appreciate it. Email me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia. I come,
let's go talk to Dave. You can click him on there,
I'll go click him up. Okay, let me see if
this is going to work this morning. Oh one for one,

(12:35):
geitar Dave. What's up, my friend?

Speaker 6 (12:38):
Well, here's the deal.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
These phones. I got two different phones.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
In anyway, I'm in Vanderbilt, and there's I told Melvin
to play Steve Ray Vaughan's Crossfire because there's gun. There's
gun's been going off around me since since ten o'clock,
I mean ten minutes to seven this morning.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Sure there have man.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
No yesterday. I'm out here in the driveway because I'm
helping her pack, you know, to move to the new
house on October fifth. Yeah. In any way, so the
Sheriff's department, the chief come by in his truck, pickup
truck that had sheriff on the side, and he goes
driving by real slul He's like, welcome to Vandor Built.
And I started talking to and then he goes, I

(13:23):
know who you are, and he started writing down my name.
My boys, they listen, they listened to you. Yeah, yeah,
I'm I appreciate it. Wait a minute, then I go.
Then I go up to the store up her to
the gas station or the store, and there was a
guy with the what's those boats? It was a pretty
long boat and a young man there. They don't have

(13:43):
no sides on it. Really, it's kind of like a
step in shower.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
You know, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
Well, it's a it's a it's like a shallow sport
or something.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Okay, I know what's Yeah, just a boat that doesn't
have big tall guns on it, big sides on it.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of anyway, the little skiffs.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
Yeah, so I but no, this was long.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Well okay, I got you.

Speaker 8 (14:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
So anyway, so now I was talking to him, and
all of a sudden, this other dude comes up to
me and he goes, you don't miss Dug Pike. Yeah,
I took him and I took him in the sun
fishing school where This is in in uh in downtown
in Vanderbilt, right here where I'm at.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Do you say who it was?

Speaker 9 (14:29):
Who he was?

Speaker 6 (14:30):
I don't remember. I don't remember what his name was.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
But I told I told him both to call in, yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
And say hey boy, yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
Say, tell him, Hey, do you ever met this?

Speaker 6 (14:40):
I said, do you know the crazy dude guitar?

Speaker 7 (14:42):
You know?

Speaker 6 (14:44):
They started laughing, but they said they were going to
call in and let you know what was going on.

Speaker 7 (14:49):
Anyway, Hey, but anyway, I was telling.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
Melvine that we went in together and I got a
twenty sixteen Chevy Tracks. That way I can be driving around.

Speaker 7 (15:02):
Helping her, you know what I mean, that's gonna be.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yeah, it's Nelly Bell and I call her Nelly Bell too,
and Nelly Bill the mom and Ally Bell. She's on
her last legs and you know, she just won't make
it that much farther. I don't have to donate her
the cars for kids or something. And you know that's
about it. That's how bad. But anyway, hey, barely back

(15:27):
to back and forth a mile or so to the
job every morning. They're in Houston. But anyway, all right, no, hey,
but I'm not kidding you about. It was about ten
minutes till seven. I mean, legs was flying there. I
could hear it all I was. I hear it at
the store, and then when I got it back here
to her house where this big field is, it was

(15:48):
like you know all you know everywhere.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
No penants going along the house, Thank goodness.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
No, no, especially not on my on my nelly bell
too either.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Oh no, we wouldn't want that.

Speaker 7 (16:05):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
Yeah, and God bless everybody. Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 10 (16:10):
Dave.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
He's a busy guy. He gets he puts some miles
on his tires.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
You know that.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
You get that feeling, Melvin, He doesn't. He doesn't just
sit in one spot very long.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
Yeah, he doesn't let the grass grow under his feet
every time I turn around.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
He's got a lady friend with him too. I'm just
saying he's a loving man. He might be Sean Sean Salib.
I bring him up because yesterday, yesterday, I was playing golf, and.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
We'll see today is Saturday, Friday?

Speaker 8 (16:45):
Was it?

Speaker 11 (16:45):
Yesterday?

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Might have been day before? No, it couldn't have been anyway.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
The bottom line is I'm on the number six tea
box and I see this guy walking around looking for
a ball in the rough, and the rough out there
right now where I play is too darned high.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I'm sorry, it's too darned high.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
If you hit a ball in the ruugh and you
don't just drive straight to it without ever tell you
can't look at anything. You have to just drive straight there.
And even then it's very difficult to find these balls. Anyway,
this poor guy is looking around as man, I need
to cut this rough, don't they? He goes, boy, it'd
be really nice, and I I just said, Sean, and

(17:25):
he goes that you Doug. As we recognize each other's
voices from a distance because we listened to him so
dog on much. So anyway, we got to talk, and
he's joined up out there, and he, like me, is
out there a lot of afternoons. And so the bottom
line is anytime he goes, he becomes my excuse to
go out there, and anytime I'm going out there, I

(17:47):
become his excuse to throw his clubs in the car
and get out.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
There and just ding it around.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
We played six or seven holes, I guess together before
we finally had to come. He had somewhere he had
to be and that I needed to get home and take.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Care of some stuff. Anyway, Yeah, I was. I was
very pleasantly surprised by that. Where were we? What was
I talking about?

Speaker 4 (18:06):
I already just fell out of my head, I was,
so it was just it was funny, really, and then
kind of a relief to finally find somebody who's.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Out there as late as I am.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Because I'm usually one of the last people on the
golf course. I try very hard not to be the
last person to bring the cart back to the cartbarn,
because then the young people who work out there kind
of look at you side eyed and like, oh, come on, man,
we could have been home fifteen minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
What's wrong with you. It's just dark, that's all.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, I don't fish as I used to stay out
there till you could just barely see anymore, and unfortunately
knew most of those young people who worked out there.
They're good about it, they know and most of them
like to fish too. They tell me their fish stories
from out there as well.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Seven one three, two, one.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Two five seven ninety Email me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia
dot com. I talked about kind of going through the
rest of the hunting seasons in the first segment before
we get to the bottom of this one. And here's
kind of how it works out for the things that
most of us would be interested in right now, the
white tail. The next opener on deer, well, the the

(19:16):
opener on deer really is going to be archery September
twenty eighth. September twenty eight, don't even wait till October
this year. And that's why I've talked about how this year,
if you look at all the seasons and how far
they go, you've got archery season opening on September twenty eighth,
and then all the way down the calendar and around

(19:40):
the corner and into the next half of the world
half century special late season doesn't conclude in the South
Zone until February second. So Texas, I still contend, would
almost have to be the only state where there is
and not some special crazy manage lands deer permit stuff

(20:02):
because that goes even longer, but just the seasons that
are posted right here on the Parks and Wallefe Department
of website September, October, November, December, January, February. Six months
of the year officially have days on which you can
lawfully hunt deer. That's pretty special, pretty special in this country.

(20:22):
There's states up north where the whole deer season is
only a couple of three weeks long, and that's it.
And if you don't get them, then you just don't
get them. Not around here, though. So archery season September
twenty eighth. Then we flip flip the page. Shotcha Laca.
Nobody cares pheasant. Nobody down here cares. Quails season opens

(20:43):
October twenty six Turkey season opens November tewod along with
a whole lot of other things. Let me go back
to the deer, by the way, the white tail deer,
the general season, because I didn't even talk about it.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
I was so giddy over the archery season opener.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
General season open November second, as is the general season
opener for quail. Let me get back to them. Where'd
they go? This is so no, it's October twenty sixth.
I'm sorry, this is somewhat confusing the way it's written,
and I apologize for that. Let's go down to ducks,

(21:20):
shall we. We already know that dove season's open. We already
know teal seasons open. The regular duck season opens November
ninth in the North zone, no November second in the
South zone, which seems kind of counterintuitive, but that's what it's.
I'm looking at it and reading it right here. And
then goose season November two, November second, November second, November second,

(21:44):
East West zones dark eyes like these.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
There's an early Canada season.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
If you want to drive all the way up to
the tippy top of Texas on September fourteenth through the
twenty ninth, that would be today through the end of
the month, if.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Well, never mind, everybody knows that. And then sand Hill Cranes.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
A lot of guys around here do pay attention to
San Hill Crane season and that starts in Zone C
on December fourteen, Zone BS November twenty seconds on October
twenty sixth.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
But that's a long ways away in more than one way.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Rabbits and hares, by the way, you know what the
season is on rabbits and hairs, movin No enlighten me
anytime anywhere statewide. No closed season.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Now.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
I don't know what these specific rules are on rabbits
and hairs means and methods, but I suspect shotgun in
twenty two would be good. The bottom line is, and
why I read these things every year, is because our
seasons are so long, our seasons are so generous, and

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we are very blessed to live in a state that
jumps on board with outdoor recreation, with consumptive recreation. There
are entire states in these United States where more people
than not just can't stand the fact that they've got
hunting seasons and people are out there shooting animals. But

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the truth of it is, if we don't take out
a whole lot of our animals every year because we
have grown in population and gobbled up so much habitat,
we run the risk of losing entire herds of animals.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Because if if you run out.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Of food, it's not like, Okay, well we've got a
ten percent shortage of food, so we're only going to
lose ten percent of our deer, so.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
That's not so bad.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Well, actually it is bad, because if you've got any
kind of a significant shortage of food or habitat, it
affects all the deer. It's not like ten starved to
death and all the rest of them are perfectly healthy.
One hundred percent of those deer are going to be
somewhat to some degree malnourished. If there's not enough water

(23:56):
for all of them, then all of them are gonna
have not.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Quite enough water. Oh, it's it's a pretty easy.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Thing if you understand how carrying capacity works, and you
can see why we have to use the what most
good wild eye biologists will tell you it's the best
means and best method for maintaining a healthy population, and
that is to fin it out.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Every now and then, i e. Hunting season.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
The meat doesn't get wasted, the animals don't suffer, and
and everything stays in balance. I might talk about that
a little bit more later.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
All the way out to this break, This is Sports
Talk seven ninety Houston, Sports online at sports seven ninety
dot com.

Speaker 10 (24:50):
Back to the Doug Bike Show.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Even thirty seven on Sports Talk seven ninety. What kind
of a bt B side song is that?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Where did that come from? That's Junior Brown? Junior Brown. Okay,
all right, we'll go with that.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
I did little research, by the way, during the break,
I was looking through these hunting seasons, and I came
across some other dates. So in the official hunting season
that would start with our calendar year, our licenses typically
finish off at the end of August and start at
the beginning of September. That's how they're sold. You can

(25:26):
buy them different ways. But if you want to play
all the games in Texas and hunt under legal open
seasons in Texas, you could have started in the South
Zone Hunting Hunting Havelina South Zone have Alina general season

(25:47):
started September one, and the spring Youth Turkey season continues
through May eighteenth.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
That's a long run.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
September, October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, nine months,
eight and a half months, because we don't get the
whole month of May.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
That's pretty impressive.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
I must say, that's pretty impressive that Texas is allowed.
Texas allows us. Should we have the spare time? Boy,
somebody in sugar Land's got a lot of spare times.
You see that this week?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Melbourne? Oh yeah, holy Macroy, wasn't me? Trust me?

Speaker 4 (26:31):
You'd know you know what you'd hear in here if
it was me who won that lottery.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Tumbleweeds, That's what you'd be hearing, dead silence.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
I don't know, honestly, to be true, truthful, I don't
think I would. I would leave and quit and all
that stuff. But I'd be a hell a lot better mood.
You sure would roll in here with eight hundred million
in my pocket. I don't even care how much they
take in te out of that. They can't tax me
into They can't tax me into feeling sorry for myself.

(27:06):
If I'm starting at eight hundred mil or even twenty,
i'd that'd be pretty comfortable.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
I won twenty, that'd be good. It doesn't. In fact,
it might not even take that much.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
I'll just but the only way to win is to play, Unfortunately,
and I hardly ever do that. I actually had a
ticket though, for that eight hundred million dollar one. Sometimes
there's one place if I go get gas there, I'll
walk inside and and just and open up my little
money clip and find the old, tattered lottery ticket from

(27:38):
the last time I bought gas there, and I'll wave
it under that little light and it tells me I'm
not a winner and throw it away, and then I'll
get them to give me another.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
One, sort of a reminder. Yeah, just keep a little
skin in the game.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, once every couple of months, I invest two dollars.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Okay, let's go see what Rick wants check him out.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Can you pop him up for me real quick? Just
go ahead and push him right through and I'll get him.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
I know who he is. You'll call back.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Oh okay, Holy mackerel, he's a busy you know what
he's probably he's out there calling varmits and he might
have had a coyoke come into come into view and
ho telan maybe need to go to deal with that.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
Seven.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Oh, yeah, there he is. It's what it is. He's
probably in a valley somewhere. What's up, Rick, No, it's Doug.
We just passed you through. We know who you are.

Speaker 8 (28:34):
Okay, Well, I was looking for if you call me
on board. You were talking about rabbitson hair season. Yeah.
I think the only I'm not sure things may have changed.
I think the only game animal that can be shot
with a rim fires squirrel. I don't know if that

(28:58):
applies to but it reminded me of funny something something
having funny with my some of my son's friends when
they were kids. Are you let them bring a friend
with them hunting?

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Sure?

Speaker 8 (29:11):
And and uh we were sitting around kind of going
through some rules, you know, and this and that and
this one kid he was he was a good hunting
kid eating. He knew the girls. I trusted the pretty good,
but you can trust the young guys just so much, okay,
and just from an experience. And he made a comment

(29:32):
setting by the fire. He says, because he had somebody
brought up rabbits and I said, there's no season on rabbits,
and he says, well, I've got my brand new to seventy.
If I see one, I'm gonna shoot one. And I said,
I'll tell you what. You go ahead, shooty, but you
better quickly go find every piece of it and you're

(29:54):
gonna eat anything that otherwise I'm gonna call the game warden.
And had ask did he write you a ticket for
a wasting game?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, that's a little overpowered.

Speaker 8 (30:06):
Yeah, I said, you're not hunting when you shoot a
rabbit with the two seven and you're just killing.

Speaker 12 (30:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
That's a good point, very good point.

Speaker 8 (30:14):
And now he's thirty seven years old and he still
reminds me of that conversation.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, that was a good conversation to have with that kid.

Speaker 13 (30:22):
You know.

Speaker 8 (30:23):
You know, I was very fortunate to be able to
thank my son hunting for one thing, and then the
other thing is uh, I got to meet a lot
of young men who had never even shot a gun.
It was always scared me and I never let him
out on my side. They's honty with me. But today

(30:43):
they hunt. They yeah, and they Moothers still stay in
touch with me. Just I mean, they appreciate it. It
makes me feel good. I'd be real honest, And I
got about that when when somebody says to me, hey,
you remember you took me hunting when I I was
a little kid, and.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
You you taught me how to do this.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Most of the time I don't remember because I was
doing so much guide and I still to this day
like to take kids out hunting fish and what not.
But the bottom line is that they remembered and that
it made an impression on them, and it put them
at pointed them in a right direction.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (31:20):
Yeah, And I mean it's important to them.

Speaker 9 (31:24):
Sure, I'm we're real.

Speaker 8 (31:25):
Quick where I'm here, and now I have sent you
an email this morning I'm barming hunting.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, I saw that, and of.

Speaker 8 (31:32):
Course I'm not now going down highway. My wife texts
me about daylight a little after daylight. I just got
their set up kind of own what I was going
to do. I wanted to try out my new Fox
Pro call I love them. Sure, and my wife text
me and say, you do know that your granddaughter's first

(31:52):
soccer game starts at eight point thirty.

Speaker 14 (31:54):
Oh god, Rick, and I've said, oh yeah.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
She says, I don't ask a whole lot of you,
but I really like you come because there's not gonna
be the other family at this game.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
Oh man, I said her.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
Daddy's not even gonna be there. He's duck hunting.

Speaker 7 (32:10):
Today heel season.

Speaker 8 (32:13):
She said, that's his problem. I said, we created the
She said, you created that monster. I said, well, I didn't.
I never even dreamed that he wouldn't be there. For
the first day, I grabbed everything I left my broke
up my handcuff and throws there it's laying out there
somewhere on the highway.

Speaker 7 (32:36):
I'm gonna come.

Speaker 8 (32:37):
I'm gonna I'm gonna look out of place at a
soccer game.

Speaker 9 (32:39):
I'll promise you that that's okay.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Man, You'll be there. Rick, You'll be there.

Speaker 8 (32:43):
I'll be there.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
As all right. We gotta take a little break here
on the way.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
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Speaker 3 (32:59):
Doug Pikes on Sports Talk seven ninety. I've lost a
piece of paper. I don't know. Oh here it is
right here. That's good. I found that.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Let me get to these phone calls because I don't
want to neglect anybody in the first up in line
would be Skeeter Braun or Bronze roofing.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
What's going on? Are you on somebody's roof heel hunting?

Speaker 8 (33:14):
Skeeter Naug I'm just driving in to work here, you know,
another day, another dollars, so anyway, but doing good. But hey,
I appreciate you kind of showing the sun around.

Speaker 9 (33:24):
The other day.

Speaker 8 (33:25):
Oh my pleasure that it was a good deal. Hey, Doug,
I'm calling up goose hunting and El Campo. What is
you given? What's the outfitter's name? And do you know
when I know goose hunting is probably more in what December? January?

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah, when I was guiding, we used to tell people
to come between Thanksgiving and Christmas because that's when the
birds were gonna be kind of the freshest and least educated.
Now it's more like you just got to wait until
they get there, because the first of all, there aren't
as many coming, and second of all that's just well,
that's that's basically it really, there just aren't as many coming.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
You gotta wait till there's enough to hunt.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
I'm gonna be talking to Mitchell in a few minutes
and I'll get an idea from him.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Okay when he thinks his best.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
Okay, and what about duck hunting? You know, I know
it's hot out. I got these three lab door retrievers.
Is there you know? Is there an Can you recommend
a place to go duck hunting in between now and
goose hunting season that specialized? Or does El Campo Outfitters
do the same thing?

Speaker 13 (34:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Actually, I mean I would make all these I would
ask all these questions of Mitchell because he can kind
of cover you up the whole way. The one thing
as a as a former guide, I'll tell you is
that when somebody called up and said, hey, and and
I want to bring my dog so you can leave
yours at home, It's just it just makes you feel
all cringey inside because you.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Don't know how good that dog is.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
You know, if your dogs are good, and you can
tell him say, look, if I get to bring my dog,
even if he messed is up, I don't care. I
just want him to get out and splash around the
water and go pick up a couple of ducks. And
I'm not gonna hold it against you if we only
shoot one duck because my dog's running around in the spread.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
So as long as you yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
Know, yeah, I think I will text you Mitchell's number
and that way you you don't have to worry about
trying to write it down while you're on somebody's roof somewhere.

Speaker 8 (35:23):
No, no problem.

Speaker 9 (35:24):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (35:25):
Hey man, thanks you.

Speaker 9 (35:26):
It's a good deal, my pleasure.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I'm glad to hear from you.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Anytime Skeeter thinks, fuck buddy, that's a good guy right there.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
That's a good guy, boy. And it's hard to find.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
It really is sometimes a good roof for somebody you
can trust, because every time the wind blows, you'll see
guys driving all over town with little magnetic signs on
their truck or or maybe they'll have a splashy wrap
on their truck. But they'll be from Arkansas or or
tim Buck to who knows where they're from. Skeeter's been
around thirty plus years, so just saying, let me go.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Talk to Phil here real quick. Phil, what's up?

Speaker 9 (36:05):
How you doing on this time morning, Doug.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
I'm good man.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I only thing could be better if I was in
a in a tell hunting situation that had an impervious
barrier to mosquitoes around me, then I'd be good.

Speaker 9 (36:20):
I'd be better mosquitoes, But you have to take time
off from the radio station, and I think a lot
of people would be disappointed.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Well, I hope you're right. I do nice Phil. What's
up man?

Speaker 9 (36:34):
Well, I'm just curious, Like, first off, I want to say,
born raised, Texas, great estate, you know, in the entire
country in the world. But I was curious, you know,
since I know you're, you know, a hunting enthusiast. Inde'd
heard that there's like four different white tailed deer seasons
in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
I haven't looked at what Pennsylvania does.

Speaker 9 (36:56):
But I I just heard about it a while ago,
a couple of years ago. And and my my long
term girlfriend, like she's got a lot of family up
there and they have some property that people go haunt on,
but they've got bow rifle and then they've got muzzleloader, muzzleloader,
and then a specific flintlock season flintlock good lord. Yeah,

(37:19):
so like old school, like you know, Revolutionary War, kind
of like the stuff. I think the seasons. I just
thought it was interesting that seasons like literally, I think
they added it between Christmas and New Year's I think,
and I can't remember it's one week or two, but yeah,
I think they added it a couple several years ago.

(37:40):
I've actually heard about it, I think on that Meat
Eater show if anybody wants that.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 12 (37:46):
Man.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
I haven't looked at Pennsylvania I do, so many of
those seasons are just so short. And another thing about
hunting up north is typically you know, they're they're exceptions
to every rule. But typically up there you're hunting on
smaller family farms and smaller family ranches and whatnot. You
might be hunting fifty eighty one hundred acres, whereas down here, Uh,

(38:10):
A lot of the hunting that I've done certainly starts
on a couple of three thousand acres, and the biggest
ranch I've hunted in Texas was in five figure acre,
and it.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Just goes around.

Speaker 9 (38:23):
I just thought the flintlock specific season was kind of
an interesting looked at. Um even do that?

Speaker 3 (38:32):
You know, I don't know that I would want to
hunt flintlock.

Speaker 9 (38:38):
Oh I don't either. I'm just saying I think it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Oh it is, you know, I mean, what's the next
slingshot season?

Speaker 7 (38:44):
I guess, uh, maybe maybe I'm too kind.

Speaker 9 (38:48):
Of worried, but I'd be worried that I'd get a
straight shot and wounded animal or not kill it.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
You know, that would be my concern. Yeah, that would
be my concern. And they are all.

Speaker 9 (38:58):
Bow I don't think I'm good enough with the boat
for that either, But well.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
You know, and you know what, you're the best kind
of guy there is then, because I've hunted around a
lot of guys over the years, especially a longer time
ago when I was doing a ton of bow hunting,
said yeah, man, I bought this bow.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I want to go bow hunting.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
I haven't been bow hunting before, but I've already been
to the range once and shot for like almost forty
five minutes, and I'm ready, like, oh no, you're not.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
No.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
So we had we had special stands, we put those
guys in. It was okay, Yeah, you'll see all lots
of there.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Don't worry, no worries.

Speaker 9 (39:30):
And then real quick, just question because I got too
of AR two. I was curious that I know the
Belleville meat market. You know, they do the game process
thing they do, and then it's.

Speaker 15 (39:40):
Seasonal right, pretty well, they'll if you've got something, say
in your freezer, if you've got a couple of quarters
that you just thought you were going to process yourself
but you never did and they're frozen, or you've got
well any frozen big game, it's something that walked on
four legs.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
They don't do birds out there, and they don't do
fit you know, but if you've got something in the
they'll do it all year round. Otherwise they're gonna start
up with both and they'll do any even if you
shoot an access deer or something like that, you can
take it out there, you see, to call them first
and let them know it's coming, basically. But then once
we get to deer season, once both seasons starts and

(40:17):
the white tails start pouring in, that whole building that
they built like about five years ago now I guess
it was maybe six, becomes nothing but game processing the
whole season.

Speaker 9 (40:29):
I got you. Yeah, I was almost just curious with
like to say, hogs since they're obviously season for that.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
No, you can take them out there year round.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Just call them, like I said, and make sure there's
one guy to call the whose name it is. But
there's one guy who is kind of in charge of
all that. And I'm sure and I wouldn't bring it
in there just on the hoof, that's kind of nasty.
If you've got it quartered out and at least field dressed,
I'm sure they'll take it.

Speaker 8 (40:52):
All right, Man, I appreciate it. You have a great.

Speaker 9 (40:54):
Weekend, and I'm just gonna say I'm enjoying the no
rain for a while.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Well yeah, holy cow, what a difference a couple of
days of sunshine makes and everybody's attitude.

Speaker 9 (41:04):
You know, I know I'm gonna know my grass every
three days.

Speaker 11 (41:07):
But anyway, Yeah, there's.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Thank you, Phil. It's great to hear from you. Man,
don't be a stranger. Audios, all right, we're gonna take
a little break here.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
This is the Doug Pike Show, brought to you by
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Speaker 2 (41:26):
Now here's Doug Pike.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Second hour of.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
The program starts right now, and as promised, I'm gonna
go ahead and just click this magic button and bring
Mitchell Holder on here just as fast as I could
get a mosquito into a teal blind.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Huh, what's going on, Mitchell? Where'd he go? Come on?

Speaker 4 (41:47):
He's probably had probably calling a shot right now, Mitchell,
are you there? TikTok tic dokkk? He must have put
his Mitchell there?

Speaker 13 (41:59):
You hear?

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:00):
I got you now, man done.

Speaker 16 (42:02):
I think I'm working with one bar.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Oh wow, No, no, well you're loud and clear right now.
Don't don't move, man. So you had you had to
get teal hunters and dove hunters out this morning.

Speaker 16 (42:13):
Huh, well, we kind of we weren't running any dove
hunts this morning. I've got all the guys, uh understand, deal,
So we're definitely running some combo hunts though. We've got
some dove groups going out out this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Good for you, man, Good for you. And you got
plenty of birds for everything.

Speaker 8 (42:34):
I'm sorry, what was that?

Speaker 3 (42:35):
You have plenty of birds right now?

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (42:38):
Yeah, it's a little slow this morning. This uh, this
ground fog socked in.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Oh, that's the worst, man, I didn't know you had that.

Speaker 16 (42:48):
It is thick. We're praying for some wind to kind
of put a little bit later hunt a ton of
teal around. They're just yeah. Usually it sounds like a
war zone out here opening day and it's uh a
little quiet for every day.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
But boy, we're doing all right.

Speaker 16 (43:03):
We're doing alright.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Back when I was God Mitchell, I hated ground fog.
It was just absolutely useless as a waterfowl hunter.

Speaker 16 (43:10):
You know, almost as bad as a full moon for
these teal, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt. Well how are your doves
holding up?

Speaker 6 (43:19):
They're holding up pretty good.

Speaker 8 (43:20):
Our white wing.

Speaker 16 (43:21):
If there's a few in town, We're we're gonna be
focusing getting out to the country and and chasing some
morning dove came down with that last front.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
How are you sitting on water on that periode down there?

Speaker 16 (43:36):
A ton of water, a ton of water. You know,
there's so much rice out here, second crop rice. So
there's a lot of places for these ducks to sit
and lay up, especially in some weather like this morning.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Yeah, well, sitting lay up is the problem. I don't
care if they sit for a few minutes.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
But when they.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
When they prop their feet up and turn on the TV,
it's like, oh great.

Speaker 16 (43:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Uh what'sh What size shot are you guys using now
for Teal?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
I'm just kind of curious.

Speaker 16 (44:05):
Oh usually, you know, fours are six. It just depends
on on the day and the person. But you get
a lot more a lot more customers coming out now
with making a little bit more challenging, twenty eight gages
and all these, you know.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Just just showing off. Basically, there he went again. We
lost his bar.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Come back, Mitchell, there you are hear me now?

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Yeah, man, yeah, you're fainting in that kind of like
Teal moving through the fog and they are ah an,
now they're gone.

Speaker 16 (44:43):
It's tall.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Well let me yeah, let me ask you another question,
if I keep you there long enough. How many big
ducks are down with the little ducks right now?

Speaker 6 (44:54):
You know, I really haven't seen too many.

Speaker 16 (44:58):
Got some squealers hanging around. Yeah, kind of unusual. I
guess their populations just blowing up. But some squealers seen
a few shovelers. Usually they're the first ones down with
the teal. I haven't seen a pintail yet. But I'm
sure they're not far behind.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Boy, how much does a young pintail hen look like
a big fat teal?

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Holy cal.

Speaker 16 (45:21):
Well that Yeah, pintail are pretty good about staying clear
of the teal in early season. It's it's the shovelers
that'll just mix right in with anybody.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Yeah, they just crashed.

Speaker 16 (45:36):
If you see orange feet, you're not calling the shot.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
No good lord, No, hey, I got a question for it.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
My buddy Skeeter Braun from Braun's Roofing called a little
while ago and was asking specifically about you and your operation,
and I sent him your contact so you'll probably hear
from him. But he was asking when would be the
best time to think about making a goose hut down
your way?

Speaker 16 (45:58):
Oh, any time between, you know, the week before Thanksgiving
to New Year's. Really after the New Year, they specklebelly
start getting wise, they start getting tough, and they they
really separate from the snow geas and don't respond as

(46:20):
well to a big white spread as they do when
they first get down. But yeah, anywhere from that week
before Thanksgiving to about maybe the second weekend of January
is is pretty good. And then towards the end it
gets it can get pretty tough.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
You got enough rice down there to pull as many
birds as we saw last year.

Speaker 16 (46:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's a good rotation we have
on all of our farms, and gonna be gonna be
playing of rice for them once they get down here,
that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
So basically what you're saying is you're going to have
all the geese.

Speaker 9 (46:55):
Huh.

Speaker 16 (46:56):
I hope, So, I hope. So they just got to
show up.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
We'll be here to That's a legitimate answer, for sure.
Holy cant Now here's the other thing. And I as
soon as Skeeter asked me this, I just kind of thought, Okay,
I remember how I used to handle it. When somebody
calls and you get everything set up and you feeling good,
you got your dates, you got to know how many
people are coming. And then you hear and I want

(47:19):
to bring my dog. What do you tell them?

Speaker 16 (47:23):
Oh, that's fine, it's then your dog. I've got a group,
my group of two hunters right now. They got they
got two dogs in the blind with them, and you know, yeah,
they can't dogs can't get better unless they go.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Well, yeah, that's kind of the way. It's kind of
the way I said it. I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
I wasn't quite as diplomatic, you know, I said, Look,
it depends on how how much you expect out of
your dog and whether you're whether or not you're gonna say, Okay,
I know it's my dog that messed up that shot
and that shot and that shot, and we're all still
having fun anyway, so it's okay. Yeah, as long as
they under Yeah, it's different when it's their dog and
if it hadn't been hunting for for much.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
But you're right, they have to be out there to
get better.

Speaker 16 (48:04):
Yeah, and uh, you know as far as chasing you know,
sailors out there, they we let it know. And like
you brought the dog, you're in charge of taking them
to go go get those sailors that failed it, you know,
couple cuts behind you, even if.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
You have to walk here every step away with them.

Speaker 16 (48:23):
Right, But they're usually pretty good about it. Yeah, as
long as you know it's People have really high expectations
for dogs sometimes and they only bring them out a
couple of times a year, you.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Know, sure, Yeah, and they just don't realize that how
much experience helps a dog, and they think, oh, he's
a lab and look, I throw this bumper in the
backyard a couple of times a month and he's ready.
Well I'm not really ready, but they got to get
out there and get that experience.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, that's good. I'm glad you welcome them on board.

Speaker 13 (48:53):
Man.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
All right, So how did they get a hold of you?

Speaker 9 (48:57):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Did he just drop? Okay, well I can tell you how.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Hold on, let me get right back to what I
just sent to Skeeter Braun, and I can tell you
exactly what Mitchell's number is. Mitchell Holder at Waterfowl Specialties
is at two eight one seven four four one eight
eight eight. That's his cell phone two eight one seven
four four eighteen eighty eight. Hope he doesn't mind me

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giving you that number, but that's the way to get
straight up connected with him. And uh, he'll take very
good care of you.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I promise. Let me get two. Yeah, let me hold up.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
I'm gonna go ahead and make this break on time, David,
hang on, I will get to you first up when
we get back, I promise.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Your rockets and astros live here. We are Sports Talk
seven ninety. The conversation continues this as the Doug Fight
Show Little Something for the ducks.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
If you say to.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Go, Melvin, well played, my friend well played, all right.
I got a couple of people been holding a while.
David first, Philip, hang on, David, what's up man?

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Yeah? Real quickly, Doug, I.

Speaker 17 (50:03):
Sent you a article, or really a link to an
interview with one of the editors of Want to be,
leading top three outdoor magazines. I want to make a
few points and then I'm going to hang up and listen,
because I know what some topics on the running with.
First Off, this is the editor. He looked like he
was right out of high school, and I'm thinking, here's
how's this guy going to write, you know, be responsible
for articles for guys, you know, that have been hunting

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for forty or more years. Secondly, the publication has gone
totally online, no print, paper, print anymore.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
That's the way it's going.

Speaker 11 (50:36):
But which he.

Speaker 17 (50:38):
Later admitted, you know, means that they've got lots of content.
So I'm thinking, well, yeah, that means they don't They're
not as strict about trying to make sure they're putting
stuff out there that people really want to read. And
then the other comment was another point he made was
that they late money when people click on their web

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site to purchase things, and I'm thinking, well, now that's
really going to make them objective about reviews and such.
And then I didn't send it to you, but there's
an interview. The same guy who created that interview created
another one with the other another of the top three,
and I was disappointed that that magazine has kind of
gone a totally high end. Now I think they are

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still in paper print, but I'm thinking now high end.
I mean, let's space that not every guy our gap
for that matter, is going to have an opportunity to
go hunt in Africa as much as I might like.
But man, just what is what is happening to the
outdoor magazine industry right now? Because it's in transition, I

(51:44):
don't know like the changes. And again I'll hang up
and listen to y Okay.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Thanks David. It costs a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
It costs a lot of money to print a magazine,
a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Believe me.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
I know because I was kind of in charge of
the budget and whatnot when I was editing magazine for Cca.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
I knew how much it costs exactly. I knew where
the printer was.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
I was over there every time we made a run
and it's it is not inexpensive to use up all
that ink, all that paper on decent stock. To a
lot of magazines you pick up nowadays just feel like
tissue paper, and that's because they are. They're printing on

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poorer quality stock because that's all they can afford. It's
very difficult to get advertisers into print right now because
most of the younger people don't want to subscribe to
something that's going to come in their mailbox a month
and a half after the news broke. They want to
see it in real time. I just finished a piece

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for Saltwater Sportsmen that and Saltwater Sportsmen does I think
a really good job with its digital stuff. They still print,
and I've done a few features for them lately and
enjoy doing that still. But more and more it's going
digital because that's the best way they can get that information.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Out as quickly as possible.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Some outlets use that, and when they talk about having
lots more content, sometimes all of that content doesn't pass
through enough editors hands, if any at all, and you'll
see some things that make you scratch your head, like
how did that get through? Be it a grammatical error?

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Be it a punctuation error, or be it just a
factual error. And it's because they're trying to get so
much out there so fast. It's like most of the
major news networks now, they want to rush something out
there really quick, and then if they make a mistake,
if you're lucky, a week or two or three down
the road somewhere, they'll have a one line retraction.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
The story we ran three weeks ago was wrong.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
Here's what was right, and it's just buried somewhere within
the content of that page. It's difficult, it's frustrating, and
you have to do your own research on just about
anything you read to make sure that it's true and
honest and correct. But the better quality magazines, I'm not
sure which one, David. Maybe if you'll just shoot me

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an email, let me know which one you think is
going high end, I'd be kind of curious as well.
But you've got to remember that money drives the bus,
and there is more potential revenue to be made from
somebody booking a hunt halfway around the world than somebody
buying a pack of rubber worms. Oh, it's it's a

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disappointing to me change, but it's a legitimate change in
the current marketplace now, and there's nothing, not much we
could do about it. Better than nothing, but not much.
Phillip out, what's going on, my friend?

Speaker 9 (54:53):
What's up?

Speaker 18 (54:53):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Oh man, don't sound like I haven't heard you swat
a mosquito yet? Are you finished?

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Are done? Good for you?

Speaker 12 (55:01):
Done?

Speaker 19 (55:02):
And done out here hunting in Guardwood and started legal
shooting time was what six forty one, probably started about
five minutes after that. It was a little slower than
normal for an opener, but we got our limit at
about eight.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
O'clock, me and uh Steve did so. Yeah, it was
good hot man. It's it's a little warm out here
though that little note. I've got more.

Speaker 19 (55:26):
I've got more water in my waiters than I do
outside than from all this this well sweat.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Yeah, it just starts to accumulate.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
When you can, When you can feel water around your
toes inside your waiters, you either got a leaguer as
hot as blazes.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Man, Holy down, now, did you guys?

Speaker 4 (55:40):
Did you guys have grandfag over there like Mitchell did
on the on the Heat Eat West Side.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
No, we didn't.

Speaker 19 (55:46):
I mean it was a little MOI on the ground
driving out here.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
But it wasn't bad. I had to turn my wifers
on driving out, but yeah, it was.

Speaker 19 (55:54):
It was and it is muggy, but all in all
it was uh.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
But you could see Yeah, absolutely, yeah there was. There's
a flag like that. I've got to come in right
now as we're talking.

Speaker 19 (56:03):
One one right in front of about fifteen yards right
there in front of me.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
How about that, man? Yeah, what kind of reports that
you're getting out there right now?

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Well, like I said, the west side, they've been fighting
that during ground fog, which doesn't help anybody. Those birds
will just sit back and relaxed till they can see
where they're going straight off of wherever they slept, and uh,
they just don't move much in the ground fog.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
As long as they can see. I think.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
I think wherever there wasn't fog this morning, and even
with you probably had almost zero wind as well.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Right, yeah, no, win, none at all.

Speaker 12 (56:35):
Win.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
How about mosquitoes? How were they?

Speaker 2 (56:38):
They weren't bad?

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Actually? Oh wow, okay, I think a lot worse. Had
a lot worse. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
I mentioned this story about you and your dog years ago.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Just covered from the tip and those to the choking
on mosquitoes. Yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 9 (56:53):
Yeah, I'm hold so they weren't too bad, not too bad.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
So that's morning.

Speaker 12 (56:58):
Good for you.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Yeah, you come out this year.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
I'll try and I want to do that. Yeah, man,
I'll take some time off.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
You see.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Did you see any big ducks, Philip?

Speaker 19 (57:09):
I just saw some here about ten minutes ago, just
fly right over. Other than that, it's been all teal.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Not bad birds.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Yeah, lots of shore birds this time of year or two.
Hopefully nobody mistakes one of those for a teal. My goodness, gracious,
all right, man, we'll just cut it. Yes, good to
hear from you. I'm glad you called from the bly.
You gonna hunt again.

Speaker 19 (57:28):
Tomorrow, Yeah, I'm probably gonna go tomorrow too, yes, sir,
all right, Well let me know, man, give me an update, sir, alright.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Always a pleasure, Philip, thanks for the call, buddy, audios Man,
I've known that guy for so long. He is an
avid hunter, one avid hunter. It was he and his
his brother in law at the time who invited me
to go down and hunt that place just just south
of great Wood, really probably ten minutes south of great Wood,

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and it was a piece of family property. On his
in laws side, and there were deer all over it.
There were ducks all over it, kyotes, bobcats, what hell
you name it? Pigs for days, just hundreds and hundreds
of pigs at one point, and it was fun. It
coincided very well with my son getting just old enough

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to go walk out to the woods and wander around
behind me, and I'd let him wander off in front
of me a little ways and get him accustomed to
and comfortable walking around in the woods. After one time
I took it was good buddies with a guy named
Tom Byram who played PGA tour golf for about twenty
five thirty years, and I think he's fully retired now,

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I'm not sure, but anyway, he and I were walking
down a power company right away, and it was wet
as could be. We had on rubber boots. We're stomping
through their chasing pigs. I don't remember why exactly, we
were walking down that place with the water that had
come up also had displaced probably every snake on that property.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
And at one point, as we were.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Walking down this right away, I saw that a cotton
mouth very close to Tom, and I just stopped him
and said, you know, look down to your left, and
he saw the snake and kind of backed up a
little bit and went around it, and then we took
about five or ten more steps, and there was another one,
and six or eight more steps, and another one, and

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we had just stumbled into the place where it seemed
at one point like every snake on that almost section.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Of land had gone to. Oh.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
It was like a bad dream, man. I don't remember
exactly how many we saw, but it was way more
than we wanted to and we just kind of backed
ourselves out of there.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
When we went in, we didn't see any.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
And so once we got back through that little gauntlet
of them that we had just come through originally we
were home free and took some very high ground from
there on out. But man, that was kind of unsettling,
not entirely unlike. Well, I only saw two snakes a
couple of weeks ago when I was trying to do
the little fishing with my buddy John, and at one

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point almost stepped on the day before that I fished
with John, I dropped my guard for thirty seconds, just
thirty seconds, looking down for something specific that I was
trying to find, and almost put a foot on a
cotton mouth, probably within eighteen inches of it, and it
fortunately didn't want anything to do with me, so it

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slithered away and didn't turn up and try to start
a fight. And then that very next day, fishing with John,
I stepped up close to the bank and we were
walking maybe a thirty foot section of a little lake shore,
just a simple little natural bank on a lake, and

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there's a little bit of brush right at the shore
at the edge of the water. And didn't see anything,
didn't notice anything. And then at one point I just
looked down, same places I'd been walking forever, and there
was about three feet of water, snake curled up, just
taking a nap, totally oblivious to us. I think I
don't even think it knew we were there. I've talked
about that one before too. That was also unsettling, But

(01:01:17):
at least when I looked down and idd the snake,
I wasn't quite so concerned as I would have been
had it been one of those others. Seven one three
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at iHeartMedia dot com. Duck seat Well teal Season's open,
Dove seasons open all the rest of these little tumbleweeds
are gonna come falling down on us, and before you

(01:01:39):
know it, it'll be wide open. The fishermen, the fishermen
only amongst us, are ecstatic right now, just absolutely tickled
pink that all those nasty old hunters are off their
water and they're catching fish too. We'll talk about that
some when we get back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
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Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Good song man that that probably was one of the
that was a toe tapper that was that embodied what's that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Late seventies? Maybe, yeah, it had to be.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
It has to be late late seventies, possibly early eighties,
but I don't even think so. I think it's late
seventies and everybody had horn. That's like Chicago. Everybody had horns,
everybody had three or four guys singing, and there was
some really great music out of that that genre.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
I really enjoyed that. That was a good one. Melbourne.
Have we played that before?

Speaker 11 (01:02:43):
Have you?

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
I could play it again if you want to. Maybe
not today, though, let's just hold it. Surprise me, ye,
surprised me. Maybe I haven't played it before?

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Then, I didn't think so seven one three, two one
two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.
I talk about fishing and wanted to bring it back
up here, up and down the coast. Let's start with
saltwater first, up and down the coast. I'm having a
hard time finding people who are complaining about the numbers

(01:03:17):
or the size of the trout they're catching. Recently, people
who know how to fish, mostly fishing guides. I keep
in touch with quite a few, and generally speaking, they
are more than enthusiastic about potential moving into not only
this winter, but into this spring and next spring and

(01:03:40):
summer and fall and years subsequent to this one overall.
And I do think that it's going to be. Everything
that happens, really, really good is going to be a
byproduct of this three fish limit that we've got and
that little restrictive slot that protects some of the best

(01:04:01):
spawning fish we've got, and it gives them a chance
to get bigger and to create more little baby trout,
and just on and on and not coincidentally, I think nature,
if you look closely and talk about it with guys
who are out there every day Nature's had no problem
providing enough food for all these fish to eat. That's

(01:04:24):
one of the beautiful things about sustaining a population.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Over which we really have very little control.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
When you stop and think about fish with deer or quail,
or doves or ducks or geese, it's not impossible to
get an eye on exactly what kind of population deal
you're living with.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
It's not impossible. It's certainly it's easier, certainly on land to.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Assess the potential food available to all these animals. You
can have a hunch about how many shrimp are in
the bay. You can have a hunch about how many
mullet are in the surf, but you really don't know
because you just can't see them. And if you if
you're dragging that in the right place, you might pick
up one hundred of X or whatever. And if you're

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dragging that twenty yards east or west of that, and
you might get zero. So it's very difficult to figure
that out. On land, if you need to know what's
twenty yards west or east of you, you can just
turn your head and see that and see what kind
of see what kind of vegetation is there for deer
to eat? Or see what kind of whatever is there
for whatever to eat. So hopefully, hopefully the guys who

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are on the water almost every day and whose opinions
I value highly, hopefully they're right and that we can
expect not only more fish but also, boy knock on wood,
I don't want to jinx this, but also more big
trout to go with all all the big redfish that

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are just about everywhere. I never thought i'd hear Texans
talking about having too many redfish, but I've heard that
in the last few years more than once. Ah, these
reds are just eating us up. Man, They're just eating
up all the baby trout. They're eating up all the crabs.
I don't think that's true. I think there's plenty of

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fish and plenty of food to go around. And you know,
if you have to, if you get out there in
the middle of the bay and you hook up to
a forty four inch red fish and you don't like it,
cut it off, you won't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I know you won't. I know you as fishermen better
than that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
You're gonna fight that fish, and then you're gonna come
home and after you're all worn down and you high
five everybody in the boat after you get it there
and get it unhooked and drop it back in the water,
and you're gonna come home. And if somebody's gonna say
something about it, yeah, man, that fish.

Speaker 12 (01:06:53):
Boy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
They're just too big. They're too big, they're too hard
to fight, they take too long to catch. But deep
down inside, you were a little kid the whole time
you had that rod in your.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Hands trying to get that fish to the boat. You
know you were.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
It's fun. It's fun to catch those things. And if
you don't want to keep them, that's fine, all the
all the better. Frankly, the more out there of the merrier,
speckled trout, redfish, flounder, jackfish, bluefish, anything, lady fish, even
those nasty beasts you want to mess up the bottom
of the boat, bring a big lady fish or two

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or three, Just bring it on in. Most of the
guys I know, when we were out fishing the surf
in their boats or even sometimes out tarp andfish those
things that blow up around us if we were pretty
close in and somebody invariably would try to catch one,
and they'd hook one and just sling it over the
side of the boat and the things that would come

(01:07:48):
out of a captain's mouth at that point as the
bottom of his boat got all messed up. We'll wrap
that in quotes. We're pretty colorful. They said some pretty
colorful things.

Speaker 14 (01:07:59):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
We got to a little break here on the way out.

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Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
Carlos Santana on Sports Talk seven ninety. Those two phrases
have never been said before together. I don't think maybe
you know we've played that before. That's just too good
a song for it not to have been played seven
to one three two one two five seven ninety. Email
me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. I have heard pretty

(01:08:36):
good things about the upcoming teal season.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
I'll just ricochet off of that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Very quickly, uh until I get more word from down south,
and I may make a phone call even during the
next break to see if I can get a guy
on the phone who could tell me about that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Otherwise, all things go.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
I was very encouraged by my conversation a little while
ago with Mitchell Holder from down there at Waterfowl Special.
He's in El Campo about his estimation of what we're
going to have for goose hunting down that way this year.
I made that trip, as I've talked about a couple
of times before, with Ducks Unlimited, on a video shoot

(01:09:14):
out of his place down there, and it wasn't anything
like what it was like on that West Side prairie
thirty years ago, twenty years ago, but it was good.
It was there were enough birds down there that it
brought back the memories. The spectacle wasn't quite as it was,

(01:09:39):
but honestly, the first day was was good and the
second day was maybe even a little bit better as
for the numbers of birds in the air and the
numbers of birds showing interest in the spread that we
had put out. And boy, if you want to see
what a real waterfowl spread looks like. These days of

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us who had been invited down there to participate in
that hunt as as journalists and as old guides and whatnot,
the the whole setup is totally different and remarkably actually expensive.
Now he's got these these electronic decoys that flapped their

(01:10:21):
wings and just look really really really real, and they
add a lot of life to the to the spread.
And I want to say that he told me he
got the outfitter deal when he bought I think a
half a dozen of them and paid one thousand dollars,
and like, holy cow, that's that's a lot of money

(01:10:41):
putting the goose spread. But if you're gonna hunt them
under the circumstances of the day, which is now and
there aren't as many birds, you've got to try to
take advantage of every opportunity you can get. And having
the spreads out like they put out was really it
was really impressive. It took quite a while to get
everything out. Had we covered some ground. We really did

(01:11:04):
with decoys, and it paid off.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
It paid off.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
We had a lot of fun and shot some geese.
I'm looking forward to that. The duck hunting. Based on
the amount of water I know right now at least
is on the west side and the east side, we
don't need a whole lot more rain to get us
up to duck season. We've got to get all the
way through October. But nonetheless, and we'll get seasonal rain.

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We'll get enough to maintain the water we have. I
hope I don't see us I don't foresee any major
drought on the horizon, and it's just gonna get better
and better.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Deer seasonal opening.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
I'm just getting giddy with excitement of over hunting seasons
and I don't even have any real plans yet. That's
the amazing part. I still just get just thinking back
to the hunts I've had. And that's a big part
of hunting too. You don't do it with people you
don't like. You go hunting with people you do like.
You go hunting with friends, You go hunting with teammates.

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I did back in high school. Even we'd make dove
hunts after practice. It was time to get all the
way from Sharpstown High School out of town into a
couple of places we could dove hunt after football practice.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
So all of that was fun. And then work friends
and guide friends.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
When I was guiding on that prairie west of town,
if we didn't have a hunt that day, we didn't
just drive home and go to bed. We'd gather up
everybody else who didn't have anything to do, and we'd
go to some field somewhere and see if we could
make something out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Do all the work, go through all the work.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
To put out a full giant five or six guides
working on it spread, and boy, we could put out.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
A bunch of stuff and it was fun.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
If you have never experienced any of that waterfowl hunting
around here, I'd encourage you to do it. Duck hunt
or goose hunt, and even yeah, the goose hunts are
really kind of fun because you typically aren't gonna be
hunting out of a blind. You're gonna get moddy, and
you might even get wet, and you might even get
a little cold if you if you mess up and

(01:13:08):
roll over something. But you're going, oh man, I'm sorry,
break already. I'm just I'm see, I'm just swept up.
I'm swept up in the tsunami.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
That is the Great Texas outdoor experience, Melvin. I can't
help myself.

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All right, nine o'clock hour starts right now.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
We'll get to a little bit of golf stuff in
a minute, but not right now. I'll go a little
farther before I do that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
That's old that's old. This is old, and that is good.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
George called during the break and asked about croakers being
used for bait and whether there's going to be any
kind of whether there has been any change in the
status of any of that, And I think, what's happened now,
because I'm not hearing anything and I'm not seeing anything
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
It's just kind of out of side, out of mind.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
As we move into fall and fewer people are throwing
croakers and more people are getting out and starting to
hunt now, and it's just kind of become a back
burner issue. I wish I had some news. I wish
I had found stumbled across something. I did look a
little bit last week after my show and didn't really

(01:14:38):
find any new information.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
So it's hard to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
It's hard to hypothesize whether there's going to be any
change anytime soon. My guess is, because there really isn't
much talk about it, is that we're just going to
go through another winter and spring and get to next
summer without anything really substantive happening along that line.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
So that's the kind of the.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
The long way of telling you, I haven't found anything
new in that regard. Seven one three two, one, two
five seven ninety email on me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Moving quickly through some some golf news.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
I saw a headline, but I haven't had a chance
to read the story yet that Tiger Woods talked about
going through another back surgery recently. I'll look that up
maybe during the break that we get to at some point.
Solheim Cup ongoing out at Where did it go to?
Through Gainesville, Virginia? I could remember what town that's in.

(01:15:44):
That's a Robert Trent Jones golf Club. They are where's
the where's the scoring come back?

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Ought I had it? Maybe it's up to the top. Yes,
we are ahead, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
After play this week six points to two yesterday, six
to two yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
We've got details.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
Coming up here. Let me see one real quickly. Come on,
come on details. I'm not gonna wait all day. I
don't have all day to wait. It's not telling me
much of anything, honestly, it's really not. I don't understand why.
I'll scroll down and see if there's something new here. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
Let's just move on. Then the there's that, there's that,

(01:16:29):
oh PGA tour. I've got something going on there, the
Pro Corps Championship ongoing in Napa, California. You're not going
to recognize many of the names on this leader board.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Number one. You may recognize Patton Kasire.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
I'm not sure who that is on on line one, Melvin,
Do I need to take that call?

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Or no? He can't hear me. He's talking to somebody else.
I can't tell who.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Pat Desires at thirteen under par, David Lipski is at twelve,
Patrick Fishburne at eleven, JJ Spawn, Matt Coocher at ten
under par, See Thigala at nine, And I'll give you
the eights, and then we'll move on Raphael compos Kevin Tway,
and Wesley Bryan, all all jockeying already for better position

(01:17:27):
as we move through fall and winter and get started
for next year. Okay, I'm gonna go get Georgia right now. Then, George,
what's up?

Speaker 12 (01:17:36):
Man?

Speaker 6 (01:17:37):
Hey?

Speaker 18 (01:17:38):
I just wondered what became of your survey that you're
going to take on the crokers. You know from your listeners.
Oh yeah, you know, I'm on record from like twenty ten,
twenty twelve, and on your program.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
A couple times calling for game fish stats.

Speaker 18 (01:17:52):
Back in the seventies, I had a girlfriend. Her parents
had a beach house at Jamaica Beach. You could go
to anywhere on the beach front. You can walk out
their door and fish.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
In the canal.

Speaker 18 (01:18:03):
Sure, and and you could catch a mess of crokers
enough to eat that night. Yeah, and that's it's a
base snapper man. It's the best tasting fish in the inshore. Really,
in my opinion, it's better than flounder. Flounder are good,
but they're kind of uh, they don't they don't have
as much taste. And the croaker man, it's it's like

(01:18:24):
a snapper, it's a base snappers. Well you know, and uh,
now they're all you can't catch a hall. You know,
they're too small generally.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
Well, they are because they're getting yanked out of the
population before they get four inches long.

Speaker 18 (01:18:37):
And well, the problem is people don't have the experience.
You and I have that to draw on from back
when we used to have a great fishery of croakers.
And to me, Doug, it's just to decimat an entire
specie base, forgive me. Uh and I probably can make
them friends here, but based on a lot of people's

(01:19:00):
angling deficiencies.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
You know, you don't need croker. You don't have to
have croker. And it's not a slam duck.

Speaker 18 (01:19:06):
A bunch of friends of mine that we all loaded
up in the boat, they weren't you know, only one
or two of us were really fishermen, and they wanted
to go fishing, and they insisted on using croker. Of course,
so I didn't use any of This is back in
the UH about ninety three or four five and UH,
and they used They fished with cokers for a couple
of hours. They didn't get a bite and we only
caught I caught two trout that day on a on

(01:19:28):
a soft plastic and one other guy called called a
trout on a mirror lure. And we were the only
ones to boating fish at Texas City right there at
the Dollar you know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Yeah, it was a bad day, you know, in early May.

Speaker 18 (01:19:40):
But anyway, so it's not the slam dunk people think
it is. And you know, if they just had the
experience and knew what it's a it's a wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Fish man, you know. And I'll let you go.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
I got a.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Song coming up. It's called what does it take to when.

Speaker 18 (01:19:53):
You Love for Me by Junior Walking the All Stars
Man that's going out to the Atlantic Croker from yours truly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Thanks to Audio Oh Mercy.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
Yeah, that the croaker as a game fish is fantastic.
It fights, it hits hard, it fights hard. It's a
cousin of the redfish. Just doesn't have a spot on it,
and it's got a little lighter color overall, but a
really great fish. When it gets to about a pound
pound and a half, two pounds, three pounds. They got

(01:20:28):
the state record, I want to say, is twenty nine
inches long something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
It's a beast of a croaker.

Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
But I don't know that we'll ever see anything like
that again, unfortunately, because they're just they're getting gobbled up
and used for bait by shrimp boats, and it's just
I don't know. I don't think we'll ever see it
get the status that a lot of people want, because
there aren't enough people who want it to sway.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
The Parks and Wildlife Apartment. You certainly don't want to.

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
I don't want to take away somebody's ability to use
something for bait that helps them catch fish, because if
they're not catching fish, they're not going to stick around
and not gonna be buying licenses and all that. So
there's a lot more to talk about with Kroger. But
I'm gonna shift over to teal right now. See what's
up on Todd's mind? What's going on?

Speaker 11 (01:21:19):
Todd living the dream?

Speaker 12 (01:21:22):
Baby?

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
I'm doing all right?

Speaker 20 (01:21:25):
I was just calling to number one. I can remember
those good old goose hun days. You wouldn't remember me,
but I used to hunt with elp Po Yeah, back
in the back in the eighties with Larry.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
Gore and I was right here beside you then.

Speaker 11 (01:21:40):
Yeah, I can remember you from back then.

Speaker 13 (01:21:43):
Uh.

Speaker 20 (01:21:43):
Second thing, I just came out of Garwood and uh
we whacked the teal. There's a lot of teal down there,
and they're just getting their second crop. They're just getting
their second crop water in too, so they'll probably in
a full moon next week. They'll probably load up in
all that water and whatnot down there.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
Good for you, man. How long did it take you
to get your bird this morning?

Speaker 11 (01:22:09):
An hour five of it?

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Oh wow, that's not bad at all. Man.

Speaker 11 (01:22:13):
Could have been better. It could have been a lot worse.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
You know, if it goes too fast so it's almost anticlimactic.
You know, let's see how fast we can get a
limit and then oh we're done.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Dang, Now what do we do? You know, set around
twelve thumbs.

Speaker 20 (01:22:28):
Everybody always wants to know how long did it take?
You know, I don't know why that, but that's just
the way of human nature.

Speaker 4 (01:22:35):
Well, you know, and honestly, it shouldn't be a race.
For heaven's sakes, it shouldn't be a race. It should
be an experience. And I I anytime that we had
a really fast hunt like that out there, I say, okay,
we're finished legally, but let you unload your gun, put
your you know, put your just lean back into the
levee and let's just watch these birds and try to

(01:22:57):
learn something from them. If you want to try to
call them and learn to call better, then more power.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Now's your chance. Without getting anybody mad, you know.

Speaker 11 (01:23:06):
Yeah, that's a good idea.

Speaker 20 (01:23:07):
We packed it up, got out of there, let them
stack up for tomorrow. We gotta we gotta cut rice field.
They did in the second crop, so it's got it's
wide open and flooded, and they really want wanting them
there a lot of I guess there's rice floating in
there from the combine.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Yeah, probably so, probably so.

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
I would imagine there would be as efficient as those
machines are these days, because every little grain is is money.
They're still they're not perfect and stuff falls out of them, you.

Speaker 11 (01:23:34):
Know, Yeah, right right, good for you.

Speaker 20 (01:23:39):
Well, anyway, a buddy mine's been telling me about your show,
and I was listening. Uh, I guess the dove opener
or something. Yeah, and actually it was Raptor V's.

Speaker 11 (01:23:50):
Yeah. Dad to high school with them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
Oh wow, Scott, yeah good.

Speaker 11 (01:23:55):
Yeah, Scott.

Speaker 20 (01:23:56):
Right, yeah, they're all down furious hunting and I stayed
up here to teal hunt. But he told me about
your show, and I kind of kicked in started listening
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Welcome board there. I am feel free shoot me an email.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
If you want to hear about something, I'll I pay
attention to my emails, and if I get somebody wants
to hear about something, I'll do my best to talk
about it intelligently.

Speaker 20 (01:24:19):
Even I was having I was having a bad connection,
but real quick and yeah, in seconds, were they trying
to make the croker a game fish or something?

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
And no, no, nobody's nobody's even come close to doing that.
There are a lot of people who would like to
do it, especially people my age who remember how fun
it was to be able to go down there. And
even if you were horrible at fishing and trying to
catch speckle trout or redfish, you could still soak dead
shrimp on the bottom just about anywhere and catch enough

(01:24:51):
croker to take home and eat. So and that's just
no longer available now. It's hard to catch a croker
over well. The only the best place to catch him
now is in a bait camp. Yeah, and they're gonna
be about four or five inches long. It's just it's
tough now to get an eating sized croker almost anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
And I hate to see that because it's a great fish.

Speaker 20 (01:25:13):
Yeah, when I was younger, I'm sixty three now, so
I don't know. When I was in my twenties, I
used to catch a lot of croker or in San
Luis Pass.

Speaker 11 (01:25:22):
Oh, yeah, back in the day.

Speaker 12 (01:25:23):
I don't.

Speaker 11 (01:25:24):
I have a house and rockport.

Speaker 20 (01:25:25):
I've been fishing down there for a long time now,
but I don't catch catch many of them. No, I
don't use that shrimp or live shrimp or anything. But
it seemed like in the fall is when you get
the golden croker run or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
That gives me an idea.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
At some point, what I might do is just load
up and leave all my lures at home, and leave
my best rods and reels at home, and get a
couple of things that I trusted my son with when
he was little, and I might just drive down there
and buy myself a pound of fresh dead shrimp and
see if I can catch a croker worth looking at.

Speaker 11 (01:26:01):
Well, you got a call through some hardheads?

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Well, well yeah, what's new? It won't be the next
hardhead I take off a hook, won't be the first.
I can guarantee you. Holy cow, man, God, it's great
to hear from you.

Speaker 20 (01:26:15):
One time there was a big I was wave fishing
in the surf and High Island. I used to fish
a lot down around that way, and there had been
a big I guess I'm gonna call it a hardhead killed.
They were dead hot heads for miles down the beach.
If people were driving over and us giving them flat time.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
No doubt. Oh yeah, I didn't think about that. Holy cow, it.

Speaker 11 (01:26:37):
Was the salt one time. I never seen it again,
Thank good.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Well, yeah, it wouldn't hurt my feelings.

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
If a few more of them hit the hit the
the dirt and freezes. Freezes tend to take them out too.
Pretty good if they get caught somewhere.

Speaker 11 (01:26:50):
Oh well, all right, well thanks for.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
Taking yeah man, thanks for listening. To stick around, but
come back tomorrow. I'll be back tomorrow morning at eight o'clock.
We can do it again.

Speaker 11 (01:27:00):
Maybe I have a good report for you, I hope.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
So thanks Todd, Thank care. I appreciate it. Bodeos.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
Yeah, sounds like a guy who fits right in. He'll
fit right into this audience. He knows about fishing, he
knows about hunting, and he likes both. Welcome aboard.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
You don't even have.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
To hunter fish to like this show, or well to
listen to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Certainly, there's no requirement.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
In fact, one of the greatest compliments I feel like
I get sometimes and it happens enough that I don't
mind saying.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
So it's not like it's never happened.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
But once somebody will call or email me and just say,
you know what, I really don't hunter fish, but I
like your show, and that means I'm exposing them to
the outdoors and maybe at least they will not dislike
hunting and fishing, because some people do and they just
don't understand why we do it or the benefit to

(01:27:54):
these populations that we provide by doing it, and so
I hopefully with a little education, you'll kind of swing
them our way.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety online at sports seven
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Speaker 10 (01:28:08):
Now more Doug Fight.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
All right, welcome back nine twenty one on Sports Talk
seven ninety The Dugpike Show.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Thank you for listening on.

Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
This opening day of deal season, this continuation of dove season,
this preamble to bow season. I mean, it's it's tumbling down.
It's all starting up in the next few weeks, and
I can't wait. Frankly, let's go. Let's go talk to
Brian first. Brian, what's up man?

Speaker 13 (01:28:35):
Oh, just hanging out?

Speaker 8 (01:28:37):
Bully good?

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
What can we do for you?

Speaker 8 (01:28:40):
Well, I just want to call it.

Speaker 13 (01:28:41):
Tell you I don't hundred fish. I just barely can
swing a doll club. But you are a funny guy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (01:28:47):
I really like your show.

Speaker 13 (01:28:48):
I've been Let's do bout a month now, and at
fifty plus, I got two nephews working with me. I'm
fifty seven and they're fifty four and fifty and we
run around to do a little service coffee plumbing, but
we get off to your show.

Speaker 9 (01:28:59):
You're a really funny Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
Well I really appreciate that. Thank you, Brian. I do
appreciate it.

Speaker 13 (01:29:03):
I try tell you, Oh, you don't even have to
try it.

Speaker 8 (01:29:08):
He comes that real to you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
Boss, all right, man, Well look yeah, thanks for coming along,
coming on board, uh fifty plus.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
I don't get to have as much fun as I
would like to.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
Sometimes it gets kind of serious because there's serious stuff
going on. But I worked that light stuff in. I've
got to, man, I can't just make it all bloom
and doom.

Speaker 13 (01:29:25):
Well you do it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Thank you? The go oh we lost you? Oh there
you are.

Speaker 13 (01:29:35):
No, that's fine, that's fine. But anyways, you just keep
on doing what you do. And I want to tell you,
I like you say, you keep doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
If you'll keep listening, Thank you, Brian.

Speaker 9 (01:29:44):
I will.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
I mean nobody else that's so not now. I got
to try to be funny, you know, I'm not. I
can't try because if you try then it just kind
of sounds awkward. I'll just be me logan. What's up.

Speaker 9 (01:30:00):
Well, good morning, mister Doug.

Speaker 14 (01:30:01):
Plike, how are you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
I'm good man.

Speaker 14 (01:30:04):
Well, just like your last call of Brian, I wanted
to call and say, look, I know we've known each
other a long time, and man, he was correct.

Speaker 9 (01:30:12):
We love listening to your show.

Speaker 14 (01:30:13):
I'm actually heading down to Three Rivers with my uncle
and two of his ladys and we're gonna go do
a little dove hunt as well. But man, we we
of course will be listening to the show and you're
giving us all the education we need on our first
first rundown. How's everything with you?

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
It's good man.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
I know you bought a flat of shells over there
at Shooter's Corner wall.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
You think that's gonna be enough to get a limit today?

Speaker 14 (01:30:36):
Do you know what I think it is? And Jerry
was great, Man, I haven't. I haven't bought any while,
and you turn me in.

Speaker 9 (01:30:41):
The right direction.

Speaker 8 (01:30:42):
So man, those guys were top notch.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
Well you got you got two hundred and fifty shells
on you to get your limits.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
So I hope you, I hope you get it.

Speaker 8 (01:30:51):
Well we do.

Speaker 6 (01:30:52):
Man.

Speaker 14 (01:30:52):
We're gonna keep on listening as we're driving down fifty nine.
And man, keep up the great show, my friend, and
I'll see you next week.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
What are the prospects for the field you're going to today?
What's the scouting report.

Speaker 8 (01:31:04):
On it so far?

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
Logan, turn the radio down, you know better?

Speaker 13 (01:31:11):
Yeah, oh, sorry about that.

Speaker 14 (01:31:12):
I think I think the group was trying to I
think the group was trying to listen to you. That's
all now, scouting scouting reports looking good.

Speaker 11 (01:31:19):
Okay.

Speaker 14 (01:31:19):
We talked to the gentlemen that we're heading down to
this morning and said the storm didn't really affect a
day or so, was a little it was a little off,
and he's, uh, he's cut a couple of strips for
us so we can find them, which is always going
to be good for me. But at this point he said,
they're coming, they're coming back, and the winds are the
winds are low, and we're looking good.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
Yeah, that's the best part about light wind like that.
It's not gonna those birds aren't gonna just magically move
as easily out of the way of a shot pattern
coming at him. So I bet you guys do well. Man,
give me a post post off report tomorrow.

Speaker 12 (01:31:53):
Will you.

Speaker 14 (01:31:55):
I would love to do that if you'll take me.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
Yeah, yeah, laws, there's not anybody in front.

Speaker 14 (01:32:01):
True that true that, my friend. Well, man, I have
a great rest of your show, and I'll definitely give
you a shout tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (01:32:07):
Give you an update, my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
All right, Logan, I'll be looking for the call, buddy.

Speaker 9 (01:32:11):
Thank you, we got it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Have a great date audios. Bye bye.

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
All right, let me click that and then we're gonna
go to Forest and then we're gonna probably try and
get the mill before it's all over Forrest.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
What's up? What's going on?

Speaker 13 (01:32:23):
Mister Dave?

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
You know I might be calling you in the next
couple of days.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
There's a potential opportunity for us to get on the
water together.

Speaker 21 (01:32:30):
Up your way because I'm getting them all in.

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
I'm gonna beat up your Way and I'll give you
details later. Yeah, might work out, man. What's on your mondy?

Speaker 21 (01:32:43):
Well, just steadished up my fried spam and egg breakfast,
which I enjoyed. But uh, I'm uh potentially gonna have
a be doing some new stuff now where I'll be
off every Friday from now on, so we might be
able to chance to do a lot of fish in Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Cow.

Speaker 21 (01:33:01):
So having a late to yourself on a Friday ain't nothing,
especially my little gated lake.

Speaker 11 (01:33:04):
I'll tell you about having that too. We literally have
that to ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
So holy cow man, that wouldn't be bad.

Speaker 21 (01:33:10):
But exactly, but now, but a couple of I guess
do the worthy news were the updates?

Speaker 11 (01:33:15):
What thing? You know?

Speaker 21 (01:33:17):
The changes in the forward facing solar they got it
was actually a National Professional Fishing League has banned it
for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
About that bass baster.

Speaker 21 (01:33:27):
Has limited you to one transducer, where some guys had
five and fifty thousand dollars worth of electronics on their boats,
so they've lived it to one transducer and fifty five
total inches of screen you can have on your boat.
And then the Major League Fishing, you know, they got
three periods they fish and they're only allowed to use
it one period. So we'll see how those changes go.

(01:33:49):
And then h on the Texa Parks walleife side, I
know you've got a lot of people talking about broker
and fishing on the golf coach, which I don't do
a lot of unfortunately, but uh I read yes today
where they had just stopped their one billion Yeah it
was a red cage.

Speaker 11 (01:34:06):
And then the.

Speaker 21 (01:34:06):
Three fisheries are stocking twenty million per year into the
into the bays and coastal areas.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
That don't play around.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
I mean, they've been doing this a long time and
trying to keep up with increased pressure on these fish
and occasional freezes that knock them back. And all in all,
the Parks and Wallefe Department is as good or better
than any fish and wildlife service in the country as
far as I'm concerned, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
They don't they don't mess.

Speaker 21 (01:34:34):
And I talked to the several game boards about lake
livings that have they just you know, put them black
bass in this lake with as volatile as this lake,
as you know, it's the Trinity River. So now they're
trying to introduce hybrid sharpers into us, and they're basically saying,
if you want to go black Mass fishing, you got
way a lot more choices than.

Speaker 11 (01:34:49):
Coming to Liqulives.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
It's good, yeah, you know it this day.

Speaker 11 (01:34:52):
But it just ainate.

Speaker 21 (01:34:53):
It ain't raver, it ain't curve that. It ain't like Lackadosias,
it ain't none of those lakes.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
You know, I understand one hundred percent. What's good to
hear from you.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
I'm gonna catch one more before we get to this
break and then I'll get with you in the next
day or two to tell you my plans.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
See what we can do? Sounds good man, Yeah, audios,
let me get the mill here. What's that milk?

Speaker 12 (01:35:15):
This is Neil. It's been a while since since I
called him. But I was watching last Tuesday night. I
was watching the Weather Channel. They were covering the storm
in the Margant City area. Jim CANTOORI. They had a
their vehicle had.

Speaker 11 (01:35:34):
What's the word.

Speaker 12 (01:35:37):
Had come become disabled and they needed to get a
jump from a local police officer and they pulled up
the motor. They pulled up the hood and there was
a combination. It was a combination copperhead rattlesnake on the
motor you ever heard of? But it was none poison.

(01:36:00):
If you ever heard of toys of snakes, maybe of
different breeds.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
No, I have it. I don't. I'd love to see
whatever it was they saw. I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
I've never heard of cross breeding between those snake species.
And if it was combination copperhead rattlesnake, how could.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
It not be venomous? It might have been. Yeah, I
don't know. Probably was a rat snake. That'd be my gad.

Speaker 11 (01:36:25):
I'm just going on what yeah, what the.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
TV guy said.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Yeah, I don't know how much I would trust TV
guys for my snake my snake news.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
I believe they said it. I believe they said it,
but I'd challenge it biologically. I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:36:42):
I agree with thank you have a good weeknd.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
Yeah, thank you, you too. Appreciate Neil. Yeah, the snake deal.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
There are a lot of people, especially who are doing
hurricane reporting, who don't know much about snakes, I would bet,
and are going to go with whatever they were told.
And uh, those folks over in Louisiana there, I know Cajuns,
and Cajuns are don't They don't have a problem cracking
a joke on somebody, And that may have been part

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of what was there, just to see if the person
would really.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Say it on the air.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
But any if you cross too, it's kind of like
two positives. If you add a positive and a positive,
you get a positive.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
And if it's two.

Speaker 4 (01:37:25):
Venomous snakes and they somehow managed to crossbreed, which I
doubt happened, I can't say for sure. And I bet you,
I bet George is listening right now, and I hope
he is because he might be able to shed some
light on this.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
But if that did happen, if you did have those.

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
Two somehow managed to get together laid on in a
drunken fit of passion somewhere out in the woods, the
offspring almost certainly would be venomous.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
If I just don't see it happen, There's just I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
I don't know for sure, and I'd love for somebody
to square me up if they.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
Do know for sure, if that's possible.

Speaker 10 (01:38:07):
Oh, this is.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Sports Talk seven ninety, facefom dot com, slash sports Talk
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Speaker 10 (01:38:13):
To the Doug Pipe Show.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
On Sports Talk seven ninety The Dug Pike Show. Thank
you for listening. I certainly do appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
Melvin.

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
Let me know that LSU comes on at ten o'clock.
We will be covering that game live. When I asked,
and I'm not throwing you under the bus here because
I didn't know either, Melvin, I said. And the reason
that LSU games are so important around here is because
about half the staff are graduates of LSU. Starting at
the top here and just steadily down the ladder, I

(01:38:47):
heard a whole bunch of fighting Tigers in this room
when we have a staff meeting every other Monday. So
initially Melvin said, I said, who are they playing? He goes,
I don't know somebody. So I was just gonna go
with LSU versus somebody and let it go because that
mostly if any of our staff is listening this morning,

(01:39:08):
in addition to Rob Logan, mostly they would be LSU
people and they wouldn't care who they were playing or not.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
As long as there's a football game, they're going to
be watching it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
So it's actually LSU versus South Carolina.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
Which is the best team? Do we know?

Speaker 11 (01:39:24):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
We know LSU?

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
Well, oh yeah, that's right, I won't you know, just
a little brain slip there.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
Yes, of course LSU is the best team. No matter
what the rankings are, they will always be the best team, right,
Rankings don't matter, not if you're from LSU. No, no, no.

Speaker 12 (01:39:43):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
I hope Eddie's not listening, I really do. We just
walked into it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
We just stepped right in the middle of a big
old trap. We did almost messed up. I'm glad you
pulled me back. Pull it in, Doug, pull it in.
Don't say it now. We're good LSU and South Carolina
at ten o'clock this morning. By the way, Melvin and
I were kind of laughing during that commercial where it
talks about forty percent of the people in America being

(01:40:09):
big and tall, he said, and he he like, I
am not super tall, not like Sean Salisbury tall six
' five.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
And what I.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
Reminded Melvin that among those forty percent of us who
are big and big or tall, about probably eighty percent
of that is big and the rest are tall or both.
But no, they're not that many giants walking around.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
You just look in the grocery store, look across that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
You're going to see a lot of heads about at
your level or my level, unless you happen to be
I'll tell you somebody else who's big and tall or
not tall.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
He's just tall. Is Chris McGinley from kirk Holmebs.

Speaker 4 (01:40:47):
Great guy, but his golf clubs have got to be
at least two inches longer than everybody else is.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
Because he's about I want to say, he might be
six seven.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
He's a tall man, no question about it, and one
of the nicest guys and pretty smart dude too, running
the running the helm there at Kirk Holmes for as
many years as he has third generation company, and he's
just he's firing on all cylinders. Keeping it that way.
It's gonna make a fourth generation, I'm sure. Seven one
three two one two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike

(01:41:18):
at iHeartMedia dot com. Uh I mentioned that the Solheim
Cup is ongoing. We are ahead currently. I haven't looked
at current scores because it's hard to find. Frankly, Oh good,
here's a spot that might have the leaderboard. Yeah, everything
is just they'll get started. No, here we are okay, well, yeah,

(01:41:38):
we are tied in one match. We are well, who
is this hold on? Yeah, we are two down in
a second match. We are three up in a third match,
and we are four down through twelve in the well
it looks to be Yeah, that would have been the

(01:41:59):
first match. No, that's the last match out. We're four
down in that one. We are tied in the one
that went out first. That's Nellie Corda and Alison Corpus
versus Emily Peterson and Carlotta Segonda.

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
Tied there and then we'll be all right.

Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
We're still ahead overall, so we're starting with a lead
that I hope we can hang on to and hang
on to that Solheim Cup over there in Gainesville, Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
All Right, we're gonna take a little break here, last
one of the program. On the way out, I'll remind.

Speaker 21 (01:42:30):
You people's dot com slash price match for price match guarantee.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety's a Houston sports.

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Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
The song that I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
Know that it ever made number one, but I bet
it I met it made top ten in its day,
wouldn't you think or do you think it did better?

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Do you think it made one?

Speaker 9 (01:42:56):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:42:57):
I know for shore probably did really well. It's a
great song.

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
It's a great song, but I don't know in hindsight,
I don't know if it would have been a top ten,
And it matters not to us.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
We're talking about hunting, fishing, and golf, uh, golf. I
was laughing the other day.

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
I mentioned early in the program that I was at
at black Hawk late one afternoon this week and run
into Sean Salisbury, who's joined out there now, and we
instantly figured out that if we're going to be out
there that late and practically the only people on the
golf course.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
We might as well be playing together then not.

Speaker 4 (01:43:32):
And so I came home told my wife I found
a playmate out there, because I was always by myself.

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
Oh the later, god.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
I would I jokingly tell people out there that nobody
in that entire place has played the first five holes
more than me, because late in the afternoon I would
get out there and try and squeeze at least past
four and then play at least hit a t shot
on fire, and then that tea shot is hopefully going

(01:44:03):
to be in the fairway somewhere. But the entire right
side of five is water, a beautiful lake that in
its heyday would enable me I could go out there
no fool and catch thirty fish in an hour, thirty
in an hour, nice bass, good quality fish. And then
the cormorants showed up several years ago and have reduced

(01:44:24):
that population dramatically, and I hope that someday it recovers
to even half of what it was now. On a
good afternoon out there, in an hour, I might catch
two or three fish, and that's about it. So it's different,
but it's still fishing, and I still love it, and
I just consider it a little bit tougher challenge than.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
It used to be. It was almost too easy.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
It was great when my son was little, but it
was almost too easy for me, and I would I
would spend a lot of time trying to find a
lure that they wouldn't eat.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
And I don't throw soft plastics out there.

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
I consider that cheating because it just it does generate
a lot more bites than the hardbaits. But still I
still challenge myself as much as I can so that
I can.

Speaker 3 (01:45:10):
Learn more about what kind of bite.

Speaker 4 (01:45:12):
It's going to be under certain circumstances, what they're gonna
want in those circumstances, and then hopefully if if Faux
pro ever gets me in his boat, I won't make
a fool of myself, and.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
I feel like I'll be okay. I think I can
hold my own.

Speaker 4 (01:45:27):
He is a professional, after all, and I'm just a
humble amateur fisherman. But I do have a few hours
under my belt. I got taught by some pretty good
guys too. I got schooled big time by Mike Iaconnelly
years ago down at the Lakes of Danbury when we
were down there filming some stuff and I Kinnelli and

(01:45:47):
I were in a boat. After long after Dion Sanders left,
he had to go. He flew back to Dallas to
watch his son's football game, which put him way high
in my regard as a dad. He broke off from
what we were doing down there and said, I have
to leave now so I can be back for my
son's football game.

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
That was pretty cool in any event.

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
Mike and I are puttering around this little bitty lake
and he's out fishing me like three to one. This
lake is These lakes were full of fish back then,
a very fantastic private fishing facility.

Speaker 11 (01:46:21):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
And he was just beating me up and I couldn't
figure out why because I knew he was throwing at wood,
but other than that, I wasn't picking up on anything different.
And when I finally swallowed my pride and said, okay,
what are you doing different for me? He said, yea,
I've been watching. I've been waiting for you to ask me.
He knew he was whipping me just badly. And I

(01:46:45):
can't remember the specific detail, but I was just I.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
Was just throwing at wood in the water.

Speaker 4 (01:46:53):
He was throwing at hardwood facing I think like say,
north south or east west or whatever it was. He
had dialed in those fish that precisely, and I just said, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Now I know.

Speaker 4 (01:47:11):
Now, I know that if you if you find a pattern,
you almost have to find that sub pattern to really
exploit it. And that's what he had done. He had
figured that out pretty quickly. And he wasn't going to
say anything, he said. He told me he wasn't gonna
say anything until I asked him, and I finally I
couldn't stand it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
I mean, he was just.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
That's how that's how good the best fishermen are.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
And I'm actually glad. I'm glad.

Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
Faulxpro called a little while ago to talk about the
changes in rules amongst the major bass fishing organizations to
either limit or ban all of this forward looking sonar
because it really is in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
Well, I don't have to say that. I talked to
my wife about that.

Speaker 4 (01:47:58):
Sometimesbody who tells you if you.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Lead a sentence, this is just quick sidebar.

Speaker 4 (01:48:04):
If you lead a sentence within my opinion, we already
know that because you're saying it, that means it is
your opinion. But I feel that forward looking sonar is
that's just not fishing. That's watching TV until you find
a program you like and then grabbing a carrot out

(01:48:24):
of the refrigerator and dangling it over the side. That's
all you're doing. You're not fishing. Fishing is that The
great part of fishing is not knowing what's under the water,
not being able to see the fish.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
You have a.

Speaker 4 (01:48:39):
Pattern that should work, and you're in a place where
you can you can kind of see the sticks and
stuff on the bottom.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
You can see the bottom contours, you can.

Speaker 4 (01:48:50):
See brush piles, but the stuff that's out there now
forty fifty thousand dollars worth of electronics, folk Pro said,
some of these guys are putting on the boats. It's
it is a tremendous advantage that anybody with that would
have over anybody without it. And it forced all these
professional bass fishermen to mortgage their houses to be able

(01:49:13):
to could contend in a big tournament. So I'm not
a big fan of that, as you can tell, and
I don't think I ever will be. I've told Forrest
that I want to I want to see it. Captain
Scott and Noll and I kind of idled down the
portconn or big jetties once just looking and he was.

(01:49:35):
He had a very early version of that technology, and
you could really see a lot of detail about what
was on the bottom, what was out to the side
of the boat.

Speaker 3 (01:49:44):
And it was a game changer, there was no question
about it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:48):
And for a professional guide to be able to help
get his clients on fish, I don't have a problem
with that at all. Really, there are guides on the
lakes of Texas now who will guarantee you a big
bass or you don't have to pay them. And that's
what they use, is that forward looking sonar because they
can find that big bass. You can drop a live

(01:50:09):
shiner down there, a big old live shad, and they're
almost certain to eat it, hang it right off their nose.
You can watch them eat it. I'd just like to
imagine all of that happening. That's why I throw that
lure and bring it back, and throw it and bring
it back a thousand times a day if I have to.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
All right, now, that's gonna wrap it up for today.

Speaker 4 (01:50:28):
I'm glad you all joined me. I hope you'll join
me again tomorrow. We'll be back here at eight in
the morning.

Speaker 11 (01:50:33):
Bright.

Speaker 4 (01:50:34):
Well, it's not quite so early it will be bright.
The sun will be up by then. I came to
work today in the dark.

Speaker 3 (01:50:39):
Teal seasons open, dove seasons open. Everything else is coming at.

Speaker 4 (01:50:43):
Us like a freight train, and it's all good stuff.
We'll keep talking about it tomorrow. Thanks for listening today,
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