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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nine o'clock hour starts right now, Holy col. Those first
two it seemed like it was a little bit slow
for a little while, and then all of a sudden,
I look up at it's nine o'clock, Holy cow. Without
further ado, let me get this gow on the phone,
Tommy O'Brien from out there at Blackhawk.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
What's up all? Everything's going great? What an awesome morning,
seventy four degrees. My goodness, I'm I'm besides myself.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm not sweating already here and somehow.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, just just pinch yourself and keep going, because we
got four or five more days of this, and I'm
looking forward to every single one of them. So let
let's talk about what Let's talk about what's going on
up there at Bethpage Black. Our guys just got hammered yesterday,
and you know, it's it's go lee that they started
so early this morning. I don't know. I guess they
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have to do that to get in all the round.
But it's a grind for both sides. But it's sure
easier when you're up three as the sun clears.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Right it is.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
They've got thirty six holes a day essentially till the
till the individual matches, so that's why they got to
start early. And I not those guys can't can't handle that.
But yeah, it's it's a lot of golf. It's a whirlwind,
I'm telling you. You know, it's uh, it's quite an experience.
Uh when you have the President of the United States
coming up and you got Michael Jordan there, and.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
It's just I mean, it's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Show talk about the golf course itself, Tommy, because for amateurs,
there's that sign that everybody wants to get their picture
taken to about how hard a golf course it is
and basically telling anybody like me to just just go
down the street to putt putt and deal with it.
You know, is it that hard for them?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
A lot of it is the length of the golf course.
It's a very long golf course. And if you can
remember the first time they had a US Open there,
there were even a couple of tur pros that could
not clear some of the landings on the tea shots.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Guys you're like, oh my gosh, I can't clear the rough.
I'm a turpro, that's.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I know.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I got to hit the to the lady's tea box.
There and then and then try to get on from there.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
But but yeah, a lot of it is the length
of a golf course. You know, you guys were talking
about Herman Park on the on the radio, and the
beauty of Herman Park is that it's not the longest
golf course in the world, so guys can actually enjoy themselves.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And have a good time.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I know that there was a push a number of
years ago from Jack Nicholas for people to tee it up,
to tee it forward so they could enjoy.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Golf and.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Trying to yeah, trying to play the back teas and whatever.
So again, I mean unless you're trying to play, you know,
the PGA Tour, I mean, move up a little bit,
make it a little bit easier, enjoy yourself, shoot better.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Scores and so on.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And so that's what's so difficult about Best Page is
that it's such.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
A long golf course and then.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
You throw the US Open or the Ryder Cup rough
on the on the outskirts of it as well when
you miss the fairways.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I mean, that's what's so difficult, although.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The Euros don't seem to make it look very difficult
right now, it's amazing how well they play.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You know, from an instructor standpoint, Tommy, are you seeing
anything in any of any of the guys on either
side that tells you they're out of sink a little
bit or messed up.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Very much.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Not a mechanical thing, not a talent thing. But I'm
watching our guys and I'm just like, it just doesn't
look they have fun. There's so much pressure to win,
and the Europeans just always look like they're having fun.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
They're cutting up.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Very much like, you know, not to compared it to
the Astros, but the Astros right now don't look like
they're having fun. And when I started watching them back
in twenty nineteen, those guys were having a blast and
they were killing everybody. I mean, there's an element of
having fun which kind of allows you to perform at
your at your peak, at your highest, Whereas if you
look like you're being led to your death sentence while
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you're playing.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
It's just not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You know. It's not a it's not a talent thing.
It's not a you know, they're better than us mechanically thing.
It's a they just they're just having more fun. And
I I think that's a wild way of looking at it.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
But I just don't see them laughing, cutting up.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Having it looks like they're being led to their death
sentence every time I see them.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
You know, they just see a couple of good breaks
to change that. But you know, that's kind of what
I see. You know, they got in the highlights and.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
They got their hats handed to them yesterday, and I
think that may have kind of brought them down to
a little gut check, in a reality check, and they
probably went to bed thinking, go Lee, I mean, how
bad is it gonna get? Instead of well, we're still
pretty pretty much in this thing. Even even still, I'm
looking at the score right now, five and a half
to two and a half, and they're behind in three matches,
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I think, And this is just the second morning.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's it. This is right, and the Americans do not
have the advantage being on home soil like they used
to because let's think about it, most these guys on
the euro team that they're playing against played college golf here.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
They're used to our style of golf, so it's not like,
you know, all of.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
A sudden, this is brand new. We're used to links
and wind and oceans and no, no, no, no, no, they're
used to what they're seeing at that page because they
played it on a regular basis when they played in
the NCAAA, and so at any rate, it's not quite
the event that they used to have as a result
of that, because I.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Keep hearing and actually say, well, it's on American soil.
They should. Now, these guys play here all the time,
so it's not like it's they got this huge event.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's more of an advantage for them when we go
over there than it is for us over here. I feel,
because again they play college golf here.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Talk about the difference, and I've heard it mentioned a
couple of times this week. The European players typically grow
up playing tons of match play and very little stroke play,
and it's just the opposite here. Does that Does that
factor into it at all?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It could? You could? I mean, you've heard the argument that,
you know, the Americans are very individual, very do their
own thing, and so on and so forth. And I'm
listening to all the interviews of these European guys and
they're like thinking about this in January of this year.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
They're not even they're so far ahead. They mark this
on their calendar.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
They just can't wait. And again it's that fun aspect.
They can't wait to go have fun playing the Ryder Cup.
And I, you know, I can't help believe it's just
not quite the same for I mean, Scotti Shuffer's number.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
One player in the world. Yeah, and it's like.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
He should be dominating, you know when he plays in this.
But again it's a different level of pressure. It's I
don't think Scotty's having as much fun as he does
when he's killing everybody on the regular tour right there.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And so to me, the.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Match play stuff like you're just talking about those guys
who live for that, have fun with that, and then
after the fact they have a beer together or beer
when they were kids, obviously, but a coke together, and
and and and cut up and.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Have fun with it.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And I just don't think that we we do that
as much as we should. Again, it's all about making
it fun as in addition to competing and then living
to compete. And I tell you what, for whatever reason,
when you put Ryder Cup logos on their shirts, it's
just a different level of competition for these guys, they
just they just can't wait. And so I'm at a
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loss for kind of you know why that doesn't fire
us up as well?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Right there?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You would think having Michael Jordan in the team room
talking to you who's the greatest competitor of all time,
that that would that would fire these guys up and
and and and help them. But it you know, you
need to help at the moment.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Honestly, no, I don't. I don't think having Michael Jordan
come in and talk to those guys did did much
of anything. Honestly, Michael Jordan's older Michael Jordan. You know,
he might have been able to inspire a college team
or maybe a high school team, but I at at
the level of golf those guys play, I don't think
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he's much of a.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Factor at all. Well, he, like I said, gross better
of all time, and most of these guys are wearing
his stuff. They're wearing his shoes on the golf course.
I mean, Keon Radley is in there wearing Air Jordan's.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You know, on the on the golf course and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So clearly, you know they're just trying to find some
kind of inspiration and I, you know, yeah, as an instructor,
I would just say, look, I mean, your game hasn't changed,
you don't look different than you normally do.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Let's just let's just try to go out there and have fun.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I mean, god forbid you yuck it up with you
with the European guys and and and and have a
good time and and joke around. I mean, I know
that the key with competitive golf is to figure out
kind of how you tick.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
And these guys know how they tick. They're smart. Do
I need to talk a lot? Do I need to
be quiet?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Do I need to just hang with my caddy whatever
it is right there to kind of help get the
best out of you and I just for whatever reason,
they don't on a different track. When when when it's
the Ryder Cup time, and again there's so much more
pressure sure on us.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
To win it.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I think because even though the Europeans seem to be favored,
they're never like touted as the as the as they
well they.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Should win, you know, they're they're not.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
They're still the underdog, even though they've they've won i
mean a ton of the last Ryder Cups in the
last few years and whatnot. And then again they just
they just have more fun doing it.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Seems like last quick question.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Do you think we'll see Scheffler and McElroy paired tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
And how would love to see Bryson.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I would love to see Bryson d Chambeau and McElroy
because those guys have history and Bryson is not the
back down type.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
He's fast, he's a he is not and we know
those guys pretty much hate each other.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
From the from the back and forth that they have
and that's what you know.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
That would get Bryson going. Uh, for sure, I think
it would. It would.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It would maybe even mess with with Roy a little
bit because Roy just does not like.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Playing with Bryson. And uh, there's not many guys that
can out drive Rory, but but Bryson can.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, that's a good point. That might get it. Yeah,
get it.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
That's a great one.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I'm looking at the scoreboard right now. We're we're down
three to one right now and halfway through. Basically Fitzpatrick
and Oberg, Well, Deshamba and Young are three up on
that crew and they're already through fourteen. But the rest
of the rest of the card is blue. Man, we
got to get some points.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well, no doubt it.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's amazing, Like I said to look at the Europeans.
They just have a different vibe in this event versus
like a major versus a major. I don't see the
joviality that I see with these guys during the Ryder Cup,
and they really embrace the team portion of and it
just it just goes to show you that, like you
said earlier, that's a big part of their junior their
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junior golf and coming up. They're used to that and
they live for it almost more so than the individual stuff,
you know. And I get at the individual accolades or
or or are more fund to get, you know, and whatnot,
but they just seem to live for the team aspect
of it, and they clearly have a good time while
they're doing it. Good point.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, all right, pardon, well, thanks man, I may see
you this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, you got.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
We'll work on that. We'll work on that move again as.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Soon as I get over being sore from doing it
the first time.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
All right, that's a good thing. If you sure.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, I'm moving, I'm moving the right stuff. Then, Thanks Tommy,
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Okay, bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Tommy O'Brien out there at Blackhall Country Club. Lessons available
anytime go to Tommy o golf dot com. Good guy
really is man named one of the top instructors in
the entire state of Texas by Golf Digest this year,
by the way, and that's an accolade that he has
long deserved and finally got. I was really really happy
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and proud for him. UH known him since he was
a pup in this in this game, and he has
emerged to be one of the the best, as I
kind of always knew he would