What's Eating Our Trout? (Best Of Episode)

This "best of" aired on November 29, 2025.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's Doug Pike, all right, Saturday morning starts now.
And I picked up a set of headphones that don't
work in here because I left mine, I think on
my desk. I had them in my hand. I may
have put them down by the printer. I'm not really sure.
If Frankie, if you can just kind of backtrack where
I'd have been, that would be absolutely awesome, because my

(00:24):
headphones are somewhere between hither and Yon. There's one there's
one leg that hasn't been pulled down as far as
it is now in probably I don't know, three four years,
and they've got it down now. And there are eight
billion golf balls along the left side of one particular green.

(00:45):
It's very a very popular hole for people to try
to reach the green in two and a very popular
thing with the the whoever's setting the pins out there,
they kind of tend to put them on the put
those on the left hand side of the green, which
is the closest to the water, out of some diabolically
cruel move on that person's part. And I mean there

(01:09):
are stacks now. I wouldn't be surprised. I didn't look
too closely, but I wouldn't be surprised, true confessions, if
there aren't at least one or two balls in that
pile down there.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
With the iHeart logo on them.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
And I don't give those away over there, so those
would be arrant shots of my own. I'd bet good
money there's at least one. If you pulled all the
golf balls out of there right now, I bet for
sure you could find at least one, and then if
you came back up the fairway a little bit, you
could probably find another one or two. Maybe one from
this past Monday, as a matter of fact, I did.

(01:47):
I splashed one over there. I hit the ball really well,
it just it just moved laterally, a little bit more
than I had hoped and or expected.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
A crazy little day. That was.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Lots of guys chomping at the bit over the winter too,
about trout fishing they expect this year, especially down south.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I hearing nothing but optimism.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
And we had a little discussion of this Captain James
and then Captain Scott Waited. These are two guys who
have been on the water a very long time. I
respect both of their opinions. James is not a big
fan of the three fish limit. This is James Plog
I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
He's not really he's not really thrilled with what they did,
dropping it to three up here.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Bear in mind that neither of these two guys, I
bet they could count on one hand at the clients
of theirs who.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Want to keep fish.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
And James was just talking overall about the entire Galveston
Bay fishery, and Scotty was talking about kind of middle
coast and down because.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's where he works.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I believe that more people think like Scott and like
this new three fish limit than think like James, who
doesn't really like it and doesn't think it has that
much difference.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I so respect his opinion.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'm working with it in my head to try and
figure out where he's where he is with this, because
he's got a lot of experience behind it.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
He's probably been guiding.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I'm guessing now based on when I started fishing with
him and we were all very much younger. I bet
he's got close to forty forty five years on it
on the boat somewhere in there. I think he's close
to my age, And if he is, then that sounds
about right.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
That sounds about right.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Scott's a little younger than both of us, but as
soon as he retired from his former profession, he didn't
waste any time starting to guide. And I also respect
his position on this. I feel like, no matter no
matter how you look at it, no matter how you
slice the data, the difference between an opportunity to keep

(04:03):
five fish and an opportunity to keep three fish within
a specific slot greatly reduces the number of fish being
taken out of that bay. Now, it's still pretty much
accepted that the average person who leaves the dock intent
on catching speckl trout is only going to catch one

(04:25):
and maybe maybe more than one, but maybe not both keepers,
maybe not even one of them a keeper. And that
was something that came up again last week one of
the questions I was talking to Scott about.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
We do have a lot, a lot of small fish
in the small speckl trout in our bay fisheries, especially
up here, And one of the concerns that I had,
as much as anything for the future of speckl trout
was the fisherman who got two three guys on a
boat and they see birds working some where, and they

(05:00):
go over there and they're they're getting a catching a
fish every single cast, every cast they bring in a
twelve thirteen fourteen inch trout.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Not a one of them a keeper, but they keep
doing it hoping they'll catch a big one. And one
of the educational things we have to do as as
experienced fishermen is when anybody talks about that, just let
them know that overwhelmingly, if you catch three or four dinks,

(05:29):
three or four little pencils in a row, the next
three or four or thirty or forty you catch probably
are going to be about the same size. Fish travel
in mostly same size schools, and it's not unlike the
bait fish. If you watch the surf on a clear
water morning, you'll see in the summertime you'll see these

(05:53):
little schools of four to five inch long mullet swim
swimming along together, thirty forty of them, maybe fifty, maybe
two hundred of them, little mullet swimming where they think
they're safe.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Maybe they're not, maybe they are.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
And then sometimes back in the bays you'll find schools.
In different parts of Texas, you'll find giant schools of
mullet that are a foot long, maybe fourteen inches long, huge, huge, mullet.
Not a whole lot of little bitty ones in those schools.
So if you're catching little trout, get out of them.

(06:28):
Just just go somewhere else and try to find something
else and try to the way you're going to catch
a twenty inch trait. Granted, if you fish around little
trout and throw a big lure long enough, throw a
lure that's five or six inches long, there's a good,
fair to good chance you might catch a trout that's

(06:50):
hanging around to eat the other trout. They are extremely cannibalistic,
which is something I didn't learn until well, I learned
it long enough ago that I it just.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Rolls off my tongue now.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
But that's one of the reasons the hatcheries haven't been
able to raise speckled trout successfully the way they have redfish.
It's because you put a bunch of them in a tank.
They finally get hatched out there a little fried, and
then they get up to fingerling's eyes, and then if
you're counting or if you're weighing them, you realize when
you take everything out of there that there's only about

(07:22):
half of what you put in.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Let's go talk to Dave see what's going on sub day?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well, I'm sitting here on Wake Cairo, and I think
if I didn't send it, I'll send it to you
in a minute. There's a barge that just left out
of here and the boys out of Louisiana. Now I
don't know exactly what they're doing, and maybe dredging over
here or something like that. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Crawfishing man.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I'm gonna yeah, how you we got about We got
about maybe ten to fifteen we still got boats launched,
and I got one of my buddies. He sits over
there and reads the paper or whatever and watches the
boat's launch. That's more enter the one of to think.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, afternoons at a boat ramp in summertime can be
very entertaining once the once the captains of those boats
have had one or two more than they should have
beers during the day, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, Hey, I did find an accompass in one of
those boxes that Rick Gadene and uh forty thousand pounds
of else in the stainless steel deal that you've got
to figure out how to flip it open, okay, and
then uh and then a bunch of them I got
a bunch of stuff that I need to organize. I'm
gonna go buy some new I'm gonna go buy some

(08:39):
new tackle boxes and organize it and good give it
to some kids real quick. I am gonna have to
go again, uh to doctor Sims and he's gonna put
you know, shoot me in the back again real quick
at the lower back. But uh, I talked and left
the message with Captain James Flogg. Yeah, doctor Seals. When

(09:02):
he comes in the room and right before he puts
me to sleep, he starts talking about.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
You, talking about James.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
That's funny, true, that's a true story.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
All right.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
So good to hear from you day idios.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh my goodness, it's a small world. Said this before
and I'll say it again. I have such great respect
for fishing guides and maybe even just a little bit
over the hunting guys.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I know there's a lot of day to day stuff
that has to be done by a hunting guide. I
was one out out in Katie for fourteen winters. Uh
and and well and summer, spring and fall too. There's
stuff going on all year round in that field. But
there's also not When you finish your day and send
your people on out of there and pat them on

(09:51):
the back and shake their hand. Uh, there's not still
a ton of work for you to do. And I
know that fishing guides they have it pretty hard. So
anytime you go with a professional, I hope you will
compensate them with a little extra, a little gratuity at
the end over whatever it was they charged you to

(10:14):
get on their boat.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Especially if they honestly, the number of.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Fish you catch shouldn't be the soul indicator of how
much you're gonna tip a God, did you get along
with the guy? Did you have fun? Did everybody have
a few laughs? Everybody catch a couple? Maybe even if
you have a slow day, A good day on the
water is invaluable really to your your whole soul.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
How much is your how much.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Is your well being, your your mental health worth? Boy,
when I'm out there fishing, I'm not thinking about anything else,
and it just kind of it keeps me.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
It keeps me balanced. I don't worry about anything, I
don't think about anything else, and it just keeps me
And I like that.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
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Speaker 2 (11:07):
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Sports Talk seven ninety The Dougpike Show. Thank you for listening,
certainly do appreciate it. Seven one three two one two
five seven ninety. Let me go see what's on Brian

(11:54):
Treadway's mind here, Brian, what's up man?

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Interesting statistics for you. Yeah, collectors have roughly a million
acres of public honeyman.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
And so now Texas is some pretty big state, as
we all know, so you had to kind of figure
out where to go. But your listeners just up in
the Conroe area have Texas's largest WNA wildlife management area
within the Sam Houston National Forest. It's within driving distance
of everybody. And it's not just deer. You can shoot

(12:29):
pigs and there's even some feathers up there that you
can take as well. It's there, it exists, and I
just point out, like gets there if you want to
access them.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Hey, well I talked to faux Pro Forrest Wilkinson, I
think it was this past weekend about it. He bought
one of those public lands passes what I can't recall
what they're exactly called, but he bought the access to
all of that public land and he and I think
it's a nephew. Maybe we just went and out in
four or five places before dub season.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
They were trying to find someplace to go.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Dove hunting, and they found a couple of places that
had some promise, but they also and a couple of
the places they went tripped over some nice little ponds
full of bass and just all kinds of things you
could do if you own property like that. But well,
I guess in a way we do as citizens of Texas.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
We own it. We just all share it.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
And I would be willing to bet that ninety percent
of those almost a million acres are empty most days.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
You're right, it's just it's education, knowledge and what we
have out there. It's just getting to go do it,
and you got to go out and explore. Nobody's going
to point out their public huntings by to you and say, hey,
come over here, and.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
No, hey, I found a great place back in the
woods where nobody ever goes, and it's loaded with deer.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
Follow me.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'm not saying a word.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
I don't get my flounder spots up, so you know,
it's the same thing. But there are some threats out
there when it comes to public hunting land, not just
in Texas but also across the nation, and I'll briefly
touch on them for sure. When you do hunt public land,
some of that land is private land that's being leased
by the state, right and we are stewarts when we

(14:19):
actually approach that. So littering is a quick way for
that landowner not to renew that lease of the state
the following year. So that's a threat that other people
have out there. Of Hey, if you're hunting public land,
it's very very important. We help do our best and
treat it like our own and keep it clean. Owners
don't want their land trash out.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I wouldn't. Yeah, the first time I saw that, I'd
bail out on the program. I'm not putting up with that.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Go ahead absolutely, and the state, the State of Texas
actually leases private land so we have more areas to hunt.
I got to speak to one of the guys this
week about it. The second thing is there are a
lot of forces that want to take away your rights
to public hunting land. That's cross the nation. Two big

(15:06):
ones that are recently in the story. A senator out
of Utah as last names Lee. I think it's like
Lee put In or tried to sneak in the Big
Beautiful Bill a sell of three million acres of land
in the Western United States, not in Texas, to sell
off to private entities. Hey, they don't need it. They

(15:27):
nobody uses this, not just hunters, hikers, campers, people that
just enjoy the outdoors, and they were trying to sell
it all. So understand that there are people trying to
take it away, and there are organizations that very much
are against anybody selling public camily.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
This is a pro example Brian of how many people
there are out there because they don't care about it,
they don't use it, they don't think anybody uses it,
and they have no real skin in the game when
it comes to to outdoor recreation. So they just we
don't need that, just sell it, put a warehouse on there,

(16:05):
and that's the last thing we needed. These natural resources
of ours are worth every ounce of whatever it takes.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
To protect them.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
They are. So another recent case that actually just went
to the Supreme Court, in different parts of states, there's
public honting land that they don't all match up border
to border. Some of them matchup.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
Corner corner to corner.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
This is the corner crossing case. And so in this
particular case, all Wyomi hunters they went to a corner
of a of a map and they were going to
cross over to the next corner. They jumped the fence
corner to corner. The landowners on both sides filed trespassing
charges that people are out there, and this case went

(16:48):
all the way up to the top and said, well
that's our airspace. The Supreme Court came back and said,
well they still didn't touch your land. They had to
go to some of the highest courts to get through
instead of residence for this. In Texas, there are some
things where there's parts of public land that we have

(17:08):
access to areas like access to water, sure that nobody
really knows what department maintains. And when nobody maintains it,
the private landowner right next door starts maintaining it, and
then he gets tired of maintaining and he spends it
off and makes it its own yep. And so in
North Texas there's a big case that's being fought and

(17:28):
right now in your state, and this particular case is
gonna move to the highest court where it was the
Northern Trinity where guy's access is to go hunt and fish,
and that landowner came and just put a fence across
them yep, and kept you all of you listeners from
access and done. And they're out there, yeah they are,
and they just what can you do?

Speaker 8 (17:49):
You know?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
One of the things I think that bothers some of
these landowners, honestly is the risk of somebody ingress and
egress on their property to get to public land to
hone ter fish or whatever. And if they slip and
break their ankle, they're going to sue the landowner. That's
that's the kind of society we live in now, and
I understand sometimes why they're doing what they're doing, but

(18:11):
I do agree that if it's public land, we need
access and maybe there's some sort of step that's missing
in the whole process whereby these these landowners could be
protected from frivolous lawsuits.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
There is, and so you know, other things that the
listeners can do is understanding the organizations that we join
the file on C threes and what they do and
how to protect it. When I was getting shut off
from certain flounder spots that I used to love to
walk into, I call a great organization that I've been
a part of I feel like my whole adult life,
which is cca top of those guys. They said, listen,

(18:49):
we're here to protect the resource, not the land and
access to it. And the same thing for DOCS Unlimited.
They're there to really protect the resource and to build
more areas to kind of benefit that these are no
hot hacks against them, it's just what those purposes are.
So one of the five to one C three that

(19:10):
I got involved with is called backcountry Hunters and Anglers. Okay,
I want to put that out there. It's nationally recognized,
but they really focus on protecting your access as hunters
and anglers to the land that we have. We have
a small Texas chapter here, but they're nationwide. But during
that big beautiful build, that Texas chapter generated roughly thirty

(19:30):
thousand calls to Center for Cruise and Cenator Corny and
that do not vote for this. This does an effect
that's in Texas, but this affects the nation. They finally
took Yeah, they finally took their phone off the hook,
and that we get it that day that they generated.

Speaker 7 (19:46):
But that's what you have to do.

Speaker 8 (19:48):
You have to stand up for that.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Great to hear from you man, So yeah, I kind
of agree with you that we have all these acres
and acres and millions of acres in the country of
public land, but if we can't access and they don't
do us any good, and the access is critical to
maintaining uh to helping the people who truly care about

(20:10):
elk and bears and deer and wolves and and.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Well we don't care so much about coyotes and wolves, but.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Nonetheless they're all out there for a purpose and that
they all belong in the right numbers, and if if we,
as consumers of the outdoors, aren't there to monitor those
populations and keep them in balance, then it's gonna go.
It's gonna go sideways really really quick. And that's not
anything anybody wants.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
It's true. Just look at the candy burry that you
used to get.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, turn our backs for five minutes, and it's neighborhoods
and warehouses.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Now, Oh well, buddy, yeah, thank you, we'll see who
he is. So right, and it's imperative upon all of us.
If you.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Guys my age and a little bit younger and a
little bit older, some of them still a little bit
older than me, it's still around. We remember how good
that was, and we remember year by year watching little
pieces of that prairie get gobbled up and get sold off.
And part of it is just inevitable. There's families, long

(21:24):
standing farming families raise their children. They want better lives
for their children, so they send them off to a
university somewhere to get a college education that they never got.
And they have four or five kids in the family,
and when somebody passes, a decision has to be made
about that family.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Farm.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
This happened on the prairie more than once in the
last twenty years. Decision has to be made, Well, nobody
really wants to run the farm. They want a big
city They went and studied to become something that is
a big city job, maybe an engineer, maybe whatever, And
so they don't want the farm. Their brothers and sisters

(22:08):
don't want the farm really in its entirety. So they
sell it, and they sell the property, or they keep
little pieces of it for weekend entertainment for themselves and
their families, put by a put a big, nice new
home on it so the kids and the grandkids and
everybody can come out and play. But the farm gets

(22:30):
sold off and fragmented, and it becomes what's out there now,
right around that katy prairie sometime from five to twenty nine.
This is a little piece of it five twenty nine
south to ninety and then say from twenty eight to
fifty five out past Brookshire. And understand that when you're
riding around out there, that when I was out there

(22:52):
hunting there was there wasn't anything taller than about maybe
a two story farmhouse out there. There weren't a neighborhoods.
There were no warehouses and now that's pretty much all
you got. And that's why there are no geese on
that prairie anymore. Pretty sad really from my point of view.
It it breaks my heart that this generation can't experience

(23:17):
that now.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Is the hunting goods still? Yeah, duck hunting's.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Great out there still, and there still are pockets of
geese out there, but it's just not what it was.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
And maybe we can talk about that's more a little
bit later. Anyway, on the way out here.

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(23:55):
for listening Dougpike Show this Saturday morning. Let's go, well, yeah,
let's go to the phones. Talk to Alan.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
See what's up Allan? What's going on?

Speaker 7 (24:03):
Man? Thank you morning dog? How you doing.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I'm doing all right. I'm a little sleep deprived, but
I'll be okay.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
Hey, uh, two questions. My son of law, he just
became a professional firefighter and for his graduation gift, I'm
gonna get him some golf lessons.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Nice.

Speaker 7 (24:28):
So how did I go about that part of town?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Are you in?

Speaker 7 (24:32):
Tombo?

Speaker 8 (24:33):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Okay, I'm gonna scratch your horses down the road.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, but you know that's the far at the far
end of the range at black Horse where those those
little ten buildings looks like it looks like maintenance barn
or something that's a lesson area.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
I never I've never been over there, but I'm i'm
I'm I'm hearing what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well, yeah, yeah, they've got they've got good instructors there.
Pretty much any PG a official profession instructor is gonna
be able to help. And and there are personality things
that that go along with that. You know, I got
a couple of guys I could maybe ask for you.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
If you can shoot me an email, I can send
out something and say, Okay, who's gonna be the best
up around tom Ball? And I could do that if
you want me to.

Speaker 7 (25:22):
Yeah, that's fine. Uh, Like I said, he's his his
shift rotation is like he can. So I'm looking at
a Saturday, right, If it's possible, I'm gonna try to
make it on a Saturday.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah you can. You can get lessons on Saturday.

Speaker 7 (25:35):
That's what I'm thinking too.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
So anyway, so, how how's this game right now? How's
this game right now?

Speaker 9 (25:42):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (25:42):
He's just he's just.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Just starting brand new Okay. Well, then he.

Speaker 10 (25:48):
Used to work at check this out.

Speaker 7 (25:49):
He used to work at Amazon, and he found a
brand new he found excuse me, he found a brand
new set of ping golf webs and someone's trash can.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Right, Oh my god.

Speaker 7 (26:03):
And I think that's what I think that's what got Oh.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, why not?

Speaker 7 (26:06):
I said? He said, look what I found in someone's
trash can. Wow, you used to deliver in these real
neighborhoods at Austin, right okay, and uh, I said, boss,
someone must have got a divorce and so so he
so he said, okay, I want to start playing golf.
And so matter of fact, he told me today he said, hey,
let's go to let's go to some of his groad seals,

(26:28):
find me a driver.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Here we go. I'm like, he's getting he's bit here.
Here's the thing you don't.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
You don't need to go to Now that I know
he's brand new to the game. Any anybody who's credential
is pg A professional will be glad to get him
and happy and capable of getting him started and teaching
him the right grip, the right stance, the right posture,
and just start at square one the last thing he needs,

(26:57):
and tell tell him when he steps in front of
this person, whoever he or she might be, to just
let them know, hey, I'm green as grass, I don't know,
I barely know which end of the club to hold,
and let them start him in baby steps. And there's
just a nice natural progression in golf instruction from just

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making contact with the ball every time, to get in
the ball airborne every time, to then start kind of
fine tuning it on where you want it to go.
And he's at the stage now where pretty much anybody
with one of those with who's a legit PGA tour
pro can help him out.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Not tour pro, but just a PGA professional.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, go there, probably the closest to me. So I said, well,
I'll just I'll just call them and make them do that.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, absolutely do that.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
Always talk about it. I do I know where it is.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, and I trust anybody he'd get instruction from up
there now.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
Not that I care too much. Yeah, is that is
that by hourly? How is that one?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, you'll you'll be you'll be buying hours, you know,
or even they'll sell half hours. A lot of the
instructors will.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
But for him, he he'll be better off getting an hour.
And I'll tell you one thing that you absolutely got
to tell him, say, look, I got you these on
one condition, and he's going to say, what's that?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Take notes?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Telling him to bring a notebook and a pen and
take notes during that lesson so that he remembers what
he was told to do. Because a lot of instructors
tell me that they'll show somebody something on the range
one day and then they'll see the guy out there
three or four days later on the range hitting balls.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
And they're back to their old habit. They don't remember
what was making it better.

Speaker 7 (28:46):
So do you think I could set up that's instructor.
I thought if I could set up a tripod with
a with a camera, I just do that he don't
forget about it.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Well that's a good point too. Yeah, it is the
technological that way he goes back.

Speaker 7 (29:01):
And watch the video you know what they do.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Yeah, that can be good too, at least that's what
I'm thinking anyway.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, I'm kind of old school with this pad and pen. Huh. College.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
He won't, he won't, he won't do that.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
He's not gonna do Yeah, just set the camera up,
video tape and then write it down, you know. Yeah,
and he could.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
What he probably needs to do is get maybe four
or five lessons, like maybe once a week, and then
he's got to go out and practice during the week,
though at least once more, maybe twice more what he
learned in the last lesson, and then at the end
of about five weeks see where he is. Get him
out on the golf course playing something and and telling
him not to worry about being embarrassed the way he

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hits the golf ball, no matter what it is, because
everybody makes bad shots, nobody.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
Cares well, I mean, and that's good. Uh. I'm sure
he's got a lot of great golf courses up in Austin.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Oh yeah, plenty of them. Oh yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (29:55):
Mean I used to golf in college, but I got
away from it because I do more hundred fishing. But
no I guess they gotta go find me a set
of clubs.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
You better, you better.

Speaker 10 (30:05):
A right man.

Speaker 7 (30:06):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, great talking to you.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
I'll call j J and then set something up.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Sure, I'll see you audios. Yeah, that's golf lessons. We're
already jumping into golf at not even eight o'clock yet,
but that's okay. Golf lessons are a great holiday gift
for people, and it's something that if you can, if
they if they're taught how to play golf right, if
it's kind of like you don't want them to try

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to learn too much too fast, because golf is about
repeatable swings, and if you're making bad swings, you're just
repeating bad swings. If you're making good swings, you get
to where you're get more good than bad.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
At some point.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
And it's not it's a difficult game to master, but
it's it's a relatively eame to get to the point
where you can just go out and have fun with
your friends and not worry. The average golf score shot
by adults in this country is north of one hundred,

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and I know people who routine ly'll shoot ten, one
twenty and they have a blast playing golf because somewhere
in those eighteen holes, somewhere in those bogies and double
bogies and triple bogies, they hit an incredible shot that
they never would have thought they would hit.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
And that's what brings you back. Golf gives you at
least I don't know how however good you are, at
least probably about sixty sixty five shots.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Or maybe one hundred and twenty five or thirty. But
every one of those is a chance to hit the
shot of your lifetime. You got four chances every round
just to make four chances around to make a hole
in one, and you don't ever know if it's coming,
but you won't ever find out unless you're out there playing.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
It's a fun game, it really is.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
It's if you don't take it too seriously unless your
business card says PGA Tour Professional. Just take a deep breath.
If you hit a bad shot, So what I didn't
you know nobody. They're not going to repossess your truck
because you hit it because you missed a three foot putt,
And that's not how it works. Seven one three, two,
one two five seven nine to email me Dougpike at

(32:23):
iHeartMedia dot com. I saw somebody posted something on this
little neighborhood app. I'm I need to unsubscribe from it
because it's usually just people griping about something. But there
were some two deer two does standing in the esplanade
down close to where I live, on a main road,
and this woman wrote a pretty pretty lengthy thing about how.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
To beware the deer are all over the place.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Now.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I saw five of them today. They yeah, it's that's okay.
They're going to be all right. Mostly deer get hit
by cars. Do that's granted. Hill countries, Gosh, that's the
worst you got. Windy hilly roads you got? These are
county roads that have no lights on them. But I

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do Actually, I think I remember reading somewhere up north.
I can't remember what state it was has a higher
auto deer collision rate than ours. I might look that
up during the break and just see which which state wins.
I don't think it'll be ours because we are so
spread out, but we'll find out. Seven three two one

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(34:18):
like that. Holy cal that's some fast fingers right there. Frankie,
you're a music connoisseur. Do you appreciate keyboards, more stringed instruments, more.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Of the brass?

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Gosh, I like all of them, do too?

Speaker 3 (34:35):
All?

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
And I was fascinated by music when I was younger
and really liked it a lot. Did some very amateurish
singing and stuff like that with some friends of mine.
I dabbled with keyboards for a while and actually had
a few things that I had composed myself that were
put onto the memory of a keyboard I used to have.

(34:59):
And I'm boring anybody who's heard this before too, But somehow,
some way, that keyboard got unplugged and the battery back
up in there, and like four D cell batteries that
could run the thing on that power died too, and
with that went the memory of those.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Recorded songs like Golly.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
And now it's been so long that I can't there's one,
maybe two that I could play parts of and remember,
but the rest of it is long long gone. Unfortunately.
That's what happens when you get old. That's what happens,
young whipper snepper. By the way, moving to the far
end of this console, there's a little bit of trash

(35:46):
can in here, well, standard issue office trash can. Let's
call it the one you'd have by your desk. It's
about that size. It is that size, that's what it is.
And from my original seat, and Frankie Alboutch for this,
the shot from there with a crumpled piece of paper,
the shot from where I normally sit to that can
on the side of the studio over there would equate

(36:08):
to a free throw range if it.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Was basketball, would you say, oh yeah, Where I am
now though? Is full on? I'm at the three point
line right.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
So during the last segment, I had a piece of
paper that I decided to wad up and throw away
and just guessing because I've got hands in my face.
I eve these two monitors and the whole console. I
can't see the bucket, but I know where it is
because I'm familiar with the court. So I let go
and I think, gosh, that thing had to just absolutely

(36:41):
just swished.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
It had to be a perfect shot.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
And when I got up to go get coffee after
or when the brake started a minute ago, I walked
down there and looked Frankiet sitting like touching the bucket.
It's touching the trash can dead in the middle, but
on the floor, I was like a two inch short
from the perfect blind shot. Hands in my face. I'm
getting fouled on the way up and on the way down.

(37:07):
M oh Well, march on March on seven one two
one two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia
dot com coined to phrase last week, vitamin G. And
there actually was a vitamin G designation on something years ago. Uh,
but whatever it was, I think it's pretty much gone now.

(37:29):
But the bottom line is my vitamin G is golf.
That's that's what vitamin G is is golf. And that's
something you could.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Say, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
I checked in with my doctor and he said, my
vitamin g's low. The good news is I'm gonna be
able to get some of it back this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
There's a treatment.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
It takes about four hours, but they say you'll get
a lot of vitamin D from it.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
And I'm really depleted. I'm just almost at the end
of it, and we're gonna have to go ahead and
throw in vitamin F and vitamin H and just redo
the whole nutrition, mental health, how you feel, what you
look like, all of that. We need vitamin H seasonally,
of course, we need vitamin F and vitamin G in

(38:14):
I think pretty much you can't od on any of those,
so you just get all you want.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
That's the way I look at it. Oh yeah, that's
gonna stick, Frankie. That's people are gonna be. Guys are
gonna be and and some of the women too. In
this audience, I know who play golf are going to
be insisting that they they've got to go back to
the clinic and get some more vitamin G. And you
know it could take a while. It could take a while.

(38:39):
I that's really gonna be kind of fun. I bet
it will stick. Uh, that's hilarious. Vitamin G.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
What was it? There was something I was looking at
over here.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Oh yeah, damn, way back in, I said, Jimmy Barrett
was talking about his golf.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Addiction yesterday afternoon. I'll have to I'll have.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
To share that that treatment pro with him.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
You know we should. Ah, it's too soon, too soon, I.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Think for vitamin G anonymous, where we have to just
go into my name's Doug and I'm addicted to golf.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
That's okay, Doug.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
We're addicted to golf too, And then we could just
tell stories about the puts we made, the puts we missed,
and but that would really defeat the purpose then because
then we would not be outdoors getting our vitamin G.
The whole purpose of this exercise would be to find
ways to play more golf and not less golf. So

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there you have it. We could have charity events I
don't know, maybe a scramble to support people who who
are lacking.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
In vitamin G. There's a long ways we could go
with this.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I'll charge my audience with letting their minds wander and
coming up with some good ideas about how we can
make this sound really legit. And yeah, this is like
a Babylon B type of a program. I think Air
Ride Bikes Wayne Errington's place up there on Tomball Parkway

(40:13):
in four Corner shopping Center. If you want the assembly
done by him, he'll do it for you. If you
want to test ride the bike before you buy it,
he'll do that. He can do that in that parking lot. Now,
some of these are just kind of commuter bikes. Then
you drive to the drug store to pick up a
few things, maybe to the grocery store and back. And
they're also that Traxas and rambow Line. Those are hunting bikes.
You don't leave a scent trail when you ride one

(40:35):
of those to your deer stand. I love the idea
of hunting with these things. I love the idea of
fishing the coast with these things, up and down the
beach and just getting around. Air ride Bikes a r
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Speaker 2 (40:53):
Now here's Doug Bike. All right, welcome back, thanks for listening.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
In this segment, we're going to talk about making sure
everybody's got some nutritious meat on the table this holiday season,
and not just not just on the last Thursday of November.
Every year, the Houston Food Bank provides food for thousands
of families this time of year, and a lot of
that meat they distribute comes from hunters and processors who
participate in the Hunters for the Hungry program. With that,

(41:21):
I will bring in Brandon Olsen for our annual talk
about Hunters for the Hungry. Welcome to the show, Brandon.

Speaker 11 (41:30):
Hi dog, thanks for having me on you bet so?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Did I read correctly that throughout its history, Hunters for
Hungary's hold out more than what ten million servings of
nison to Texans who need healthy, glean meat.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
Yes, so that's correct.

Speaker 11 (41:44):
So Houston Texans or Houston Food Bank, we are having
a Hunch for the Hungry program. But the Hunt for
the Hungry program is a statewide beating Texas program. So yes,
across the state We've been able to get, like I said,
millions of pounds and donated to families in need.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
And boy, they sure need it too, don't they.

Speaker 11 (42:05):
Yes, their protein is a protein's expensive and lean protein,
healthy protein like venison is a real treat to people.
So being able to get them, you know, these donated
pounds through the program, while also having hunters be able
to go out and you know, enjoyed sport more and
spend more time out in nature, it's really a win
win for everyone.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Can you provide a kind of a very brief history
of how Hunters from Hunger got started?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Sure?

Speaker 11 (42:31):
So, Houston Food Bank has been doing Hunters with the
Hungry for about seven years now. But as far as
the program itself, I think it started back in the eighties,
if I'm not mistaken. But it just came about from
the need of having a way to utilize that venison
that needs to go through the processors that you know,

(42:51):
you can't really find on the grocery store shelves, and
just getting it into the hands of people who need
the most.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
And fast forward to now, how is this program going
so far this season?

Speaker 11 (43:02):
This season, so far, it's been good. We've already had
a couple of hunters go and donate to some of
our partner processors. We have Chapel Hill Sausage and Chapel Hill.
We have Midway Meat Market out in Katie Bay area,
Deer Processing in Pasadena, and Junior Smokehouse out in Highland.
And I've been working with those guys and they're all
great partners and really awesome processors. So they've been communicating

(43:25):
with me. We've had some donations of people you know
already have to jump of the season, really eager to
puts pate and come back and you know help feat family.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Sure, let's talk about how the process works.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
From the time a hundred shoots it there, it's on
the ground they feel dress that they have to feel
dress at first, and then from there through the process
of how it finally gets to the food bank walks
down that path.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Will you.

Speaker 11 (43:51):
Yeah, sure, things So like you said, from the beginning,
it starts off, you know, out on the lease like
you're hunting already and say you have extra tag and
or you just have extra room in your heart to give.
Hunters will take those deer like you said, that are
tagged and cleaned. They will bring them into those partner

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processors the same as they would as any other dear
they were hunting. They will drop off those deer to
the processors and as zero charged to the hunters themselves.
Those processors will then take that meat, they will process it,
they'll grind it down into two pound bags of ground
meat hamburger meat style. And then from there we have

(44:34):
community partners, food banks or food pantries that are going
and picking up those pounds from those processors. So each
processor that we have in the program is partnered with
a specific food pantry in their communities, so that way
all of those pounds that are getting donated are being
able to stay within those local communities.

Speaker 10 (44:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
And from what you said there, Brandon, you kind of
you just rolled it rolls right off your tongue because
you've said it so many times.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
But there's no charge to the hunter.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
That the processors absorb the cost of processing that deer
and then getting it two hundreds for the hungry.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
So, and I guarantee you there were people.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Thinking, well, yeah, that sounds fun, but what's it going
to cost me to do that?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
It doesn't cost him a dime?

Speaker 6 (45:14):
Does it not a dime?

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Exactly?

Speaker 11 (45:17):
Do I agree, and then Houston Food Bank through feeding sexes,
We then reimbursed those processors for the time and effort
that they put in to help make this program happen.
You know, I did notice though, that there's a process reimbursed.
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Oh, I was just gonna say, I didn't notice that
there's a specific list of what can and cannot be well,
not what can't, but what can be donated. You can't
just roll up in there with any skinned, out field
dressed four legged animal. It's got to be where's that list?
I'll read them out for you. Access deer yes, black
buck yes, fallow deer yes, mule deer yes, nil, guy.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Yes, or x yes. Silke it is so should be
psych a deer, not silk a deer, that's funny. And
then whitetail deer as well.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
So it's gonna cover most of the exotics, even that
a lot of people in Texas would shoot. And if
anybody's having trouble getting rid of their access deer, they can.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Call me too. I don't know about you, but I
wouldn't mind having some of that on my shelf.

Speaker 7 (46:19):
No, for sure.

Speaker 11 (46:20):
I mean, like you said, that's that's the full list.
That we have available, and any of those deer bring
them into the processors. And yeah, as long as they're
as long as they're addressed and tacked, we can we
can really help a lot of families in need right now.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
It's a fantastic program. And it's open all the way
through the general season.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Right.

Speaker 11 (46:38):
Yes, sir, So it's gonna be run through that mid January.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
That's so fantastic, man.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
I just I've been talking about this every chance I've
gotten with Paula and now with you, and I'm really
happy to help you guys in any way I can.
If if you get to the end of like the
middle of December or somewhere around the end of December
and you're not getting enough deer that not as many
as you guys want, call me.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
We'll talk about it again.

Speaker 11 (47:00):
Okay, Thank you, Doug. I really appreciate it. And like
you said, we've already had people coming back this year
to return, you know, come back out of people who
have donated previously. But I'm really excited to really start
growing this program. You know, I want to see it
take off, and I want to see it all across
our eighteen county service area. If that keeps the food
bake services. Do you have a if you have any

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landowners or any processors out there that want to participate
in the program, and also just you know, to the
regular hunters who have room in their coolers and trucks
and extra tags and they want to participate and help out.
You know, I really appreciate you hoping to share the message.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
And they're correct me if I'm wrong, But there's really
not a point during the season when you would would
call me and say, okay, tell them to stop.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Now we got plenty. You're not going to do that.

Speaker 11 (47:47):
I no, you know, that would be a great problem.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 11 (47:51):
I hope I can't call back. Sorry to call back
and tell people that were full. But until that point though,
to bring them in.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
You keep it coming.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, I've got a lot of friends who have access
to a lot of deer and if they can find
one of those processors within uh comfortable driving range and
and take them and drop them off there and get
them processed for nothing, and then feed a bunch of
people all through the winter, that would be awesome.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Brandon Olson, thank you so much, my friend.

Speaker 11 (48:18):
Yes, sir, thank you, And for any more information on
the program. You can go to Houstonfoodbank dot org slash
Hunters for the Hungry or you can shoot me an
email at Hunters for the Hungry at Houstonfoodbank dot org.
And we appreciate everyone's going to go out and donate
this year my pleasure.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, thank you, Brandon, see Buddy all taking all right?

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, holy cal that that's such a good program and
I'm so in favor of that. It doesn't doesn't cost
you or me a dime to drop a deer off there,
except except for maybe the gas it takes to get there.
And at pretty much any place you're going to take
one of those things, you'd find yourself a reason, uh
as if providing food to people who really truly need it,

(48:57):
and especially the way we kind of hit that bump
for the people who most desperately needed food. We kind
of hit a bump when the government shut down for
as long as it did. So maybe help those people
refill their freezers with some really really nutritious meat. All
of those deer species. You can go to the website
again and just look and see exactly what they can

(49:18):
and can't take. Go to Hunters for the Hungary at
Houstonfoodbank dot org, and you'll see all about that program.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
All right, we're gonna take a little break here.

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Speaker 2 (50:01):
All right, welcome back to almost said fifty plus. Holy cow,
Oh it wasn't, little Frankie. I had a roof issue
years ago.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
That woke me in the middle of the night during
a very heavy rain that persisted on and off for
several days, and there was water getting in my house.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Holy cow. I had a little.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
One years and years ago that was remedied within twenty
four hours by a very good roofing company. And then
I had this bigger one. A couple of years ago.
That really it just I woke up in the night
hearing it wasn't like it was a flood coming in
the house, but it was just a steady drip and

(50:47):
I ended up having to put a bucket under it
until the guys could get out there, and it actually
took them a couple of times to get it fixed
where it didn't leak anymore. Thank goodness, it is fixed now.
Knock on wood. Yeah, what like I had to go
empty the bucket either, But it was just the fact
that there was water dripping from the roof into my
house that disturbed me considerably. But we got it all

(51:11):
taken care of. Uh, Frankie, I got an email from
Rick Bis So what he did was check into the
names of groups of animals, for example, a flock of
birds or something like that. So, just out of curiosity,
since you claim yourself not to be an outdoorsman, I'm
gonna see if you can make a passing grade by

(51:37):
by naming telling me what it's called. When you see
a group of something, for example, lions, you know that
one Huh, what's a group.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Of lions called pride? Correct?

Speaker 3 (51:50):
One?

Speaker 1 (51:51):
That's one for one h there are three correct answers
for a group of whales.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
What would one of those three be? I don't know,
not a fish or a school.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
No, schools is for fish. It's I'll give you all
three of a pod. Oh, actually a school? Did you
say school?

Speaker 8 (52:09):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
You did, didn't you? Yeah? Yeah, So you're two for two.
A school of I think, a school of whales. It
just kind of is not flattering to the whales. They're
much more majestic. A school of guppies, yes, but not
a school of whales, A pod or a gam I
didn't know that one. Let's go for something a little
more difficult.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Since you're two for two already, what about a group
of zebras?

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Not a herd? I couldn't I, by the don't don't
worry because I couldn't have told you any one of
these three. Either you give up, yeah, give up? A zeal,
a dazzle or a cohort. Oh? I mean, who knows? Okay,
now this one.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
If you, if you had ten or fifteen minutes and
ten tries, you could probably come up with this one.
But we don't, so don't don't wagh too much time
on it. What is a group of girafftes called.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Uh, throwing the towel. Yeah, a tower about that, Yeah,
I could kind of see that.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
I can see that too, because they are majestic towering animals.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
It goes on and on.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna beat you up and
try to get you to get do any more of these,
because a lot of them I didn't know either. A
group of frogs. I would have never come up with.
It just seems so out of place as an army.
An army of frogs sounds like they're taking over the neighborhood,
doesn't it. Yeah, But if they're toads, it's either a
knot or a nab and spelled k nab.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
I never could have come up with that in a
million years.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
A group of flamingos, any shot you want to take
a shot at that one, and it's it's kind of
a it's an associated word. There's no way, there's no way.
Don't worry about it. A phlambuoyance about that. What I'm
hearing down South from a significant number of people who

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fish there regularly is that they anticipate just based on
decades of notes, in some cases, based on.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
A smaller snapshot.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Maybe a few seasons of serious effort down that way,
but a lot of guys are driving farther and farther
to go fishing because it's gotten pretty dog on crowded
up this way, and they've got faster boats.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
It doesn't matter now that the place.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
They want to fish after they launch is twenty five
thirty miles from where they put in. They can get
there very quickly, and so there's a lot more information,
a lot more data, if you will, to back up
what these guys are saying. And they are saying that
it's going to be really good this winter. They all
are predicting out. I hope they're not jinxing themselves. But

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I want to get down there at least two or
three times this year and really kind of see if
I can recreate maybe with Cliff. I hope I can
get the vote with Cliff and try to do this
and go back to that very same spot where we
caught all those big trout so many many years ago
now in the early nineties, believe it or not, when
we had that trip, and I still get asked about

(55:28):
it when I'm around A lot of fishermen tell me
about that trip you and Cliff had again. That it
was as good as it gets, and if somebody wants
me to repeat it, let me know, and I will.
If not, most of you have probably heard it more
times than you want to.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
And it's not me.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Bragging that we caught that many trout, because I really
had little to do with it other than to throw
the lure out there and work it back. It was
he who was Cliff Webb I'm talking about, who had
been on these fears for a couple of weeks actually,
and nobody else knew they were there. The reports in

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the newspaper down there we're talking. This is in late January,
good drum in the channel, little of this, a little
of that here and there, but there was no mention
of what he had stumbled onto and it was good.
I'll just I'll just leave that at that. I do
think that you're gonna see uh a bunch of guys

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who typically throw soft plastics and and swear by them.
I think you'll see more of them coming up to
the top and throwing top waters, because it's just if
the bite is as good as they expect it to
be and the fissure as big as they're expected to be,
there's no and you're and the fishery in as shallow
a water as they'll probably be in winter when the

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sun's out bright and there's bait up on the top
of those little shelves and those fish or hungry. You'll
see top waters going out because there's nothing more exciting
than just having that big old toilet flush booh and jen,
the line comes tight and it's all from there.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
I hope you guys are two of those of you
who like to fish for big trout, And don't we
all really?

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I don't know many people who go out with the.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
With the notion that they will be most happy if
they catch three keeper trout as opposed to maybe catching
three six pounders and having to throw them all back.
I most of the guys I know would rather catch
the big fish and throw them back than worry about
bringing home six little filets. And that just that change

(57:51):
in itself is enough to really help the conservation of
these fish. There's just that's we have no choice but
to do it through limits, because that's the only reliable
means and methods we have of regulating the take of
those fish. And I think I think Parkson Wildlife Department
got this one right, I really do, and a lot

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of a lot of people. Some people disagree with me,
and that's fine. A lot of people do agree with me, though.
The people who the people it bothers me that are
so in favor of this are are the ones who
kind of really spend the less least time on the
water sometimes. Now I'm not talking about Captain James. He's

(58:34):
got more hours on the water than most humans anywhere,
And like I said early in the program, I respect
his opinion and I'm glad he shared how he comes
to those conclusions that he did. But what the two
of us were able to agree on is that the
problem may may not be so much how many fish

(58:56):
are in the limit and what size they have to be,
but just the pressure that's on this resource and primarily
the environmental factors, just to how much how much quality
habitat do those fish have, And that's that's that's an issue,
it really is. Seven one three two one two five

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back Sports Talk seven ninety The Doug Pike Show. Thanks

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for listening. Let me go take this call. See what's
going on down south? Hold on, standby, Rick?

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
What's up? Man?

Speaker 10 (01:00:06):
Hey, Derek? How you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I'm good. I didn't talk to you in a whole
long I don't even know how long it's been.

Speaker 10 (01:00:14):
It's been quite a while. I'll tell you. I sure
missed the contacts that we used to have together. But anyway,
the question that I had, you've been talking about the
fishing in you know, in Celtics.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:00:31):
I fished the Galveston Bay Complex and have been for
good grief. It's been almost fifty years.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (01:00:37):
And the fish in there has been absolutely unbelievable in
the past.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yet you go.

Speaker 10 (01:00:44):
Back about ten years, maybe even maybe even longer than that.
I don't know what's happened over there, but you can
catch all the fourteen inch croups you want to catch,
but it seems like that those four teen inch crown
never grown.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Yeah, that's an interesting you know, it's funny you said that, Rick,
because I got an email this week and I can't
remember who it was from, said something like, you know, something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
To that effect. We went fishing and caught twenty six
thousand fish that were fourteen and three quarters inches.

Speaker 10 (01:01:17):
Long, exactly right. Wow, Well that's unbelievable. And it's uh,
you know, I fished Trinity Bay, East Bay. Every once
in a while, I'll go over into the Galveston Bay
along yeah shoreline over there and just before you get

(01:01:38):
to the callsway, but it just seems that those fourteen
and a half inch fish never get any bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
That's interesting.

Speaker 10 (01:01:50):
I mean, you can blame it on a freeze, You
could blame it on all kinds of different things, but
that freezes five years ago. Yeah, if you have fourteen
and a half itched trout that we were catching five
years ago, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
And if you blame it on on a freeze or
something like that, and then now there's just all these
fourteen and a halfs. Those fourteen and a half had
to have mommies and daddies, and those fish should have.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Been bigger by now. So yeah, I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
It is about that base system, but I think back
to what James and I did agree on one hundred percent,
is just that there's so much more pressure, there's so
much change along the shorelines.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
There's just it's it's not a natural area anymore. Almost
half half.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
The at least I'm looking in West Bay in my
own head now that almost that entire shoreline on the
Gulf side is bulkheaded from end to end just about,
and that doesn't do those fish any good. Maybe it's
a food issue within at least within West Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
I don't. Are you seeing the same thing like in
Trinity or in Gallason Bay?

Speaker 10 (01:03:02):
Oh yeah, the traps over there, they're going out and
making one drag and making their linen.

Speaker 6 (01:03:09):
Wow, there's food everywhere.

Speaker 10 (01:03:12):
Now, there's there's there's one thing that I've noticed that
there is not. There's not the amount of bubbet used
to be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
No matter what, I'm sorry.

Speaker 10 (01:03:22):
And and everybody, you know, nobody throw nobody keeps gaff
top or hardheads. They always throw them all back.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, that's what you gotta do.

Speaker 10 (01:03:35):
I wonder if that could be part of the problem,
throwing the bat talking to uh Yeah, I was talking
to uh Tracy Woody the other day. He he's the
gas that runs Jerry Seafood down there now, and uh
he was telling me that he thinks it's thinks it's

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the uh guard that are eating these.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Uh fourteen Oh lord, how many how many guards do
you see on your average trout trip? Think about it? Well,
probably not many.

Speaker 10 (01:04:12):
Well, the thing is is, I've caught quite a few,
uh in the last few years, Okay, and I don't know. Yeah,
I had a good here's a guy the other day,
don't one six and a half feet long?

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Good lord.

Speaker 10 (01:04:32):
So I don't know if they're lurking around eating all
those small round or not. But there's a problem over
there somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
It's gotta be.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what it what it
could be other if it's not food and it's not
fishermen taking them out of there or or throwing them back.
H Yeah, this lack of keepers, it's got to come back. Yeah,
I'm scratching my head, and I'm not coming up with anything.
I still want to believe it's environmental somehow where we've

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just changed. We've changed that that base system so much
over the last few years that maybe there's some sort
of imbalance. I don't know what's missing, though. If there's
that much food, it should be able to accommodate as
many fish as there are. That's kind of how nature
takes care of it after a freeze. If the population

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gets knocked down and they're trying to replenish it, Nature's
trying to replenish it. It provides tons of food for
the surviving fish.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
So I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Speaker 10 (01:05:36):
Well, I don't know if it does or not either.
But you know, as far as the fishing pressure is concerned,
that takes care of itself. You're not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
A going well.

Speaker 10 (01:05:49):
I mean the boat ramps that that I go to
that used to have a one hundred boats in him
on the weekend now have ten.

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
Well, that's not it.

Speaker 10 (01:06:00):
Can I just wanted to plant a seed. Yeah, and uh,
maybe some other your callers out there are listening in.
Maybe they've got.

Speaker 8 (01:06:09):
An answer to it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:10):
I don't know, but we'll find out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (01:06:14):
And I hope that. Uh, the fishing down South Texas
is real good this this winter. Uh, maybe I'll have
to hook up and go down there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yeah, there have been some some pretty good trout caught
up in the Galveston bassis and this just this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Past week even, Uh, but by by this time of
year I would have expected more. Let's let's get another
coal front through here and kind of see if that
gets them into a little bit more predictable pattern, see
what we can do, all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Right, Okay, buddy, Yeah, thanks, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
You too, Rick, Thanks a lot, man, Audios. Wow, I'm
I'm calling bologney on gar being able to devour all
the bigger trout and leave the little ones behind. If
I'm a predator and there are tons of little fish

(01:07:12):
that aren't experienced in trying to escape predators, then I'm
going after those little fish.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
I'm not eating fifteen inch trout.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
And I don't think the guar has the brain to
be that selective and target fish that are fifteen or
sixteen inches and leave alone the fourteens and thirteens. That
one doesn't. That one doesn't hold water for me. And
I'm trying to think of what does. And I keep
coming back to something to do with the changes in

(01:07:44):
that entire bay system. And I'm not sure exactly which
one of those might do it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Oh my goodness, I just watched the go on TV.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Just absolutely the fish that he caught had kind of
inhaled his little swim bait. The barb was stuck somewhere
inside that fish, pretty deep, and this guy absolutely with
his with his the palm of his hand just slapped that.
He was holding the fish by the lip and slapping
really hard at that lure to dislodge, dislodge the barb.

(01:08:16):
And no way he did that without damaging that fish.
That's just unnecessary. They they've got to do something about that.
And the only thing that they can do to make
that work is get the barbs out of there, because
then you can reach in there. First of all, you
need to have a little pair of plyers on your belt,
and you just reach in with those plyers and you
can get that barbarous hook out from just about anywhere

(01:08:37):
without doing any damage to the fish. Wish they'd think
about that. All right, Holy cow, we're getting right up
to the top here, aren't we. Good grief, good guy,
I did hear a good story recently about antler development.
A good story about lots of them about kids shooting
their their deer this year, and I'm so glad that
more and more people are are starting starting these kids

(01:09:01):
slow and bringing them up with always with a little
bit room left to improve up until they get into adulthood.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
And then you can just.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Tell them, okay, you want to go shoot a big deer,
use your own money. Because a lot of us, as dads,
want those kids to really do well. They want those
kids to really love the hunting experience. But what I
think some dads neglect is the fact that the experience

(01:09:30):
is what these kids enjoy. The experience is going hunting
with their dad. If they get to shoot anything, that's
a bonus, whether it's a pig or a whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
If they get something that's a bonus.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
When it's time for them to shoot a deer, maybe
start them out with a dough at least for one season.
Say you know, we'll maybe we'll take a swing at
getting you a buck next year, and just leave it
at that. Don't jump from a dough to uh twelve
point two hundred inch deer, because that that's the top

(01:10:09):
of the heap, and there's nowhere to go from there.
I've talked about that ad nauseum. I won't do it
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ninety The Doug Pike Show. Thanks for listening, Mercy. Yeah,
here's uh Kevin Wade in and in response to concerns

(01:11:02):
over deer getting hit in the dark on the road,
and there is a product, and Kevin reminded me of it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Here these deer whistles that at highway speed emit a
very high pitched can't hear it in the car whistle.
That seems to work for a lot of drivers. They
swear by them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Now, that may just mean that they haven't really gotten
that close to a deer. With the whistles attached to
their front bumpers or wherever you put them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
I think that's where they go, and the airflow over
them creates that very very high pitched. Deer can hear
it very well, but we can't whistle. And if you
put those on let me see what he says that
they're on Amazon. Let me see what they see. If
I can get to this and see what they cost,
it's a very inexpensive thing.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Yeah, there they are.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
They look exactly the same as they look twenty thirty
years ago with the first time I saw them. Probably
costs a little more now, But the bottom line is
for eleven dollars. For eleven dollars, you get these things.
You get four of them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
I want it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Yeah, you get four of them in the box for
eleven dollars. And they are said to uh, oh, there's
some a bonus. You can get it even cheaper. Just
go look them up. Says seven sparted deer whistles for
car and motorcycles. Save a Deer Warning, Save a Deer
Warning Devices four pieces for ten ninety nine. They're just

(01:12:30):
little plastic things. I'm sure they've got kind of a
some sort of adhesive backed pad on the bottom of
them and you stick them, stick them under the bumper
so they don't show on your car and they're not
going to bother you inside the car. Yeah, thank you
for reminding me of those things. Steve appreciate it. Or Kevin,
excuse me. Steve Wade in Huntington very close to Rayburn

(01:12:53):
pro bass fishermen, and yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
I might talk to him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Uh shoot me is no number, or shoot him my
number and we try to have a conversation. I'm always
interested in the approaches of professional bass fishermen to every season,
every weather.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Change, all of that, whether the moon matters.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
I like to pick brains of people who know a
lot more than I do about bass fishing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
And I'd be happy to talk to the guy. Thank
you for that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety email
on me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. Mojoe sent
me a stack of well not a stack, send an.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Email, and the email included.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
An attachment, and that attachment has the quotes from I
don't know, fifteen twenty sports figures, some coaches, some players,
some everything's too and they're just really funny thing. I
feel like they're almost all the ones I've highlighted here
are pretty dog one funny in my opinion. And so

(01:13:57):
from time to time during the show, I'm gonna drop
one those in and I'll tell you what I'm gonna
I'm gonna wait until Frankie tease this call up for me,
because I want to take that and not waste anybody's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Time who's waiting on the phone any longer than I
have to. And TikTok, TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
He's got him. He's got him. I know he's got him.
Put him up there, Frankie, can I have him?

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Oh? Good, here we go, Thanks Steve. O. What's up man?

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Good morning, mister piagw are you I'm great?

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Good morning.

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
Well, I just realized that you said your birthday was
on the eleventh. It was on the twelfth, and mine
was on the thirteenth.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
The trifecta is what i'd call that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
Yeah, definitely, definitely, Hey, those whistles. They also sell them
at auto Zone.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Man, okay, oh nice.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
Like for for mainly motorcycles and stuff like that. But
they have them then, they have them all over the place,
and I've heard that they do really really good.

Speaker 10 (01:14:49):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
I can't imagine hitting a deer on a motorcycle. That
would be horrifying.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
Oh man, I had a buddy that did and he
had a laid cast for about a half a year.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
So oh my, he must have broken a femur then,
huh holy Kevin, definitely definitely yea.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
But yeah, no, I wanted to get with you and
tell you about those and been talking to you. I
haven't talked to you in a while, so I figured that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Well, what have you been doing? What's your excuse? What
have you been doing? Something fun?

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
And I've been working. I told you I had my
own little business. Well that kind of went to crap,
but I had a job and well and well and
well and you how it is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Yeah, well it's not a bad thing to fall back on,
is it.

Speaker 9 (01:15:26):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
I agree, Yeah, you could be all right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
He stopped buying those little whistles, was just buy a
bigger motorcycle.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Right, all right? Man, you have a good days you man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Audios. Yeah, he's a good guy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
I hadn't talked to him in a while. I'm glad
he called, confirming that the whistles are good. That's fantastic,
absolutely fantastic. Where I wanted to go back to these
little quotes because they are kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Uh and Frankie, I'm gonna let you pick and just
I'm just gonna give you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
The name of the person who said this, and and
then I'll I'll tell you what they said.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Is a guy named Harry Neil.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
This is the first one, Harry Neil, and he's a professional.
He is or was a lot of these guys are
was u but he was a professional hockey coach when
he said this, Or I could give you John Breen,
who was a former coach of the Houston Oilers, well
let's do oilers, okay, okay. According to John Breen of

(01:16:25):
the Houston Oilers, he once said to the reporters in
the room wherever they were, we were tipping off our plays.
Whenever we broke from the huddle, three backs were laughing,
and one was pale as a ghost.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Must have been when the old.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Line wasn't terribly strong, or the opponent had really big
linebackers who were really really fast.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
I'll tee up one more with you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Let me put a little check mark by that one
so I don't go back to it for a long
time to come. Another oilers reference bum Phillips or Tommy John,
the man after which the surgery was named.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Oh that sounds interesting. Those did tell me? John Tommy
John New York Yankees at the time, recalling his nineteen
seventy four arm surgery. I actually met him my freshman
year in college over at South Alabama. He and Eddie
Stanky apparently we were pretty good buddies, and he came
down to talk to us about pitching or something. I

(01:17:30):
don't know what, but in any event, I got to
meet the guy, So Tommy John New York Yankees, recalling
his surgery. When they operated, I told them to add
in a coofax fastball.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
They did, but unfortunately it was missus coofaxes.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
That's pretty good. That's pretty good. You get it right?

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
No, well, Sandy go yeah, cause you don't know who
Sandy Kofax is, do you know? He was one of
the greatest picture pictures of that era and could just
throw a ball a million miles an hour. He was
a fireballer, okay, And that's what Tommy John was saying.
He wanted to put back in his reconstructed elbow, but

(01:18:11):
they just instead put in however hard missus Kofax could throw.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
That make more sense. Now, Yeah, we're getting there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
I could see the deer in the headlights without a whistle.
Look on your face when you when you heard the
punchline to that, I don't know what that is. That's okay,
I forget how young you are. That's all right, Man
seven seven ninety Email on me, Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.
I want to when we get back, I want to

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focus on your those of you who have done a
good bit of fishing in South Texas. I want to
kind of focus on that and what you think, uh,
based on what you saw this summer and in this fall,
what you think winter is going to be like, because
my gut says that, barring some unforeseen issue, uh, we're

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gonna have one heck of a winner down there, and
there's gonna be a lot of big trout, a lot
of big trout caught. They've been left alone, they've been
thrown back all summer long. And don't think for a
minute that there hadn't been plenty of traffic in baff
And Bay. It's getting it's it's with the boats going
so much faster, and the fishermen so much more skilled,

(01:19:25):
and the equipment so much better overall than stuff we
used when I was first fishing down that way.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
There have been a lot of fish caught, there's no
question about it, but they had to be thrown back,
and a lot of those fish wouldn't have been thrown
back but for the new rule. So I'm kind of curious.
I really am to see what you guys think. Seven
seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. Thank
you Kevin for the the email I just got from you.

(01:19:58):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Scorpi night. Yeah man, oh lordy. He he's younger than
I am by a wide margin, I can assure you.
And hats off to Kevin. He just had a birthday too.
All right, let's get out of here.

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Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Now here's Doug Fike.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
All right, third and five hour starts right now. Let
me get some a little touch up little stuff going.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
On here, there and everywhere. I gotta take that and
move that over here. Carry the two blah blah blah,
bah blah blah. Anybody whose credentials say PGA Tour player,
anybody on that list can go low. On any given day.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
They get hot and every club in the in the
bag is working, and all of a sudden they'll find
themselves eight, nine, ten under par, maybe for the for
the day. It happens quite often, maybe not tens, but
at least seven or eight per day they could. I've
seen them pull that off more than once. And some
of the winning scores now are going up into plut

(01:21:32):
more than twenty under par for four rounds. That's not
that was was unheard of twenty twenty five years ago,
and certainly any farther back than that. And now part
of that was from course conditions too. The greens weren't
weren't as perfect as they are now, the fairways weren't.
Just nothing on the golf course was as consistent as

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it is now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Up to and including the rough. That's how they make
it a little harder.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
They are the fairways grow up the rough if they
want the scores to go a little bit higher, and
then they open it up a little bit. And I'm
talking maybe five yards difference in the width of a
fairway or maybe a quarter inch difference in the height
of the rough. All of that plays into these guys'
hands because they're just that good. And unless you've played

(01:22:24):
golf with people on the PGA Tour, I've never played
with anybody on tour in an actually competitive round. I've
gotten to see them when they're out there because they
had to be to meet a requirement of the PGA
Tour to play in so many pro ams, or they
wanted to be because it was just a fun day

(01:22:44):
for charity or something like that. And when they're really
loose like that. I've talked about it on the show before.
They can do things with golf balls that you and
I can't even think of doing with golf balls. It's
really fascinating and I've really I've learned a lot, not
just about how to swing the golf club, but how
to manage a golf course and how to make golf fun.

(01:23:06):
When you're playing with somebody who's that good and they're
out there having fun even though tomorrow they're going to
have to play for a lot their livelihood, it just
makes me remember that sometimes I take golf too seriously,
and because I do, because I want to be better,
then I'm probably gonna be able to get with the

(01:23:28):
amount of practice time I have. I just have to
kind of check myself and go, you know, I am
who I am, and I don't have a super high handicap,
but nor is it low.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
I'm not a plus.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
I'm just teetering on the edge of back getting back
into single digits. If I can have a couple of
good rounds, I'll be back there. Right now, I'm at
ten and I wish I was at about seven, and
the strokes are there. I know where I'm going to
get them to when I finally do so, I just
need to go work on that stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:23:57):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
My buddy Tommy Brian O'Brien does have me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Shallowing out a little bit and getting more air under
the ball and hitting it straighter and farther and all
those good things. But I still when when push comes
to shove every now and then, I'll revert to that
old swing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
I'm looking.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
I'm gonna try and get Tommy, speaking of, I'm gonna
try and get Tommy on the phone here maybe today
or tomorrow to talk about uh putters and some of
these new putters that are coming out that are designed
by design. They keep that club face square through impact
almost all the way back, and almost all the way through.

(01:24:37):
There's still a little rotation and a little bit of
an arc in the swing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
But for some somehow, some.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Way, they use waiting and balance and all of this
stuff of the club head and matching it up to
the shaft correctly to keep that thing from wavering and
wandering on its way back and then through the ball.
I want I'm gonna find out which is more important
Having a very expensive putter that's supposed to do half

(01:25:05):
the work for you, or just learning to do the
work yourself and relying on your own hands and your
own muscles to keep that club based square. I think
I think it'll be a pretty interesting conversation. I may
call Tommy during the break here and see if he
can give me five minutes. In fact, I think I will.
I'm gonna go to this break a little bit early.

(01:25:26):
I'm gonna try and call Tommy O'Brien and get him
on the phone. If I can't get him, there's a
couple other guys I might might check in with all
the way out Kobe Stevens Golf Apparel and outdoors Apparel. Now,
if you want to look a lot better on the
golf course, then you're probably gonna play where Kobe Stevens Gear.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
He's got a store up in Spring.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
You can go to the website and find everything I'm
talking about. Great guy, he gives a lot back to
the community he serves. I really enjoy working with this
guy and wearing his clothes. Kobe Stevens dot Com is
a website. The store is up on the North Side.
Like I said, just go to the website. You'll see
it for yourself. Stevens dot Com nine eighteen on Sports

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Talk seven ninety Frank, he's trying to get a hold
of Tommy O'Brien.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
He's not getting in for some reason. Tommy, if you can, well, no,
he can't hear me. Probably, I wish you could call me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Let me. I'll shoot him a text. Oh you got him?
Maybe maybe not. It's not going through. Okay, yeah, dog
on it. I'm gonna send Tommy a text real quick.
Wait a minute, because I want him to call because
we're gonna talk about putters and whether I was right
or he was right or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
I gotta go back to my phone, which is where
I got him, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Will send him a message.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Try to call us at seven one three two one
two five seven nine zero.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Period. Our phone is messed up. Period. That all the
work that'll get him. I wanted to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
I want to get his opinion on that, on these
new putters that are out there, because Tommy works really hard.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
He's very good with putting.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
He's helped me with my putting, and it's he like me,
feels like it's if you're trying to square the putter
all the way through. It's very difficult to do because
we're standing beside the ball and trying to If we're
turning our bodies normally and not manipulating our arms out

(01:27:25):
and back and over and under and all that stuff,
then there's gonna be some arc in that swing. And
I feel like it's more important to be able to
to square the club up at impact within that arc
rather than try to hold that thing off and manipulate

(01:27:47):
it to where it doesn't get as much off the
normal arc.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
I'm old school in that regard. It just is what
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
I can talk to Mark if from we can do
that until we can get Tommy on the phone. I
don't know where he may have. He's just sitting there
waiting on us. I know he is, bless his heart,
and we'll get it figured out. And if I can't
get Tomyl get the other one. Okay, let me go
see what's going on with Mark. I got this. I
can do this if I can find my little cursor.
My cursor round there it is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
I got it. Bam, Hey Mark, what's up man?

Speaker 9 (01:28:21):
Good morning, Good morning, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
How are you I'm doing well?

Speaker 6 (01:28:24):
How are you doing well?

Speaker 9 (01:28:26):
Down here? Because everybody in South Texas doing well, I
was going to tell you I didn't get to send
you any email pictures. Something's going on with my email.
But if you go to the lost rightsis Ranch uh
that we have a live stream cameran going. We have
about five five of our feeders are live streamed all day,
all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
And hold on, I got to write that down. Spell
it for me.

Speaker 9 (01:28:47):
L A S R A I E C E S.
Last right says RANCH live stream. If you put that
in YouTube, you'll you'll be able to pop it up
and you'll see live stream. And uh, oh gosh. Wait
till about right at dark you start seeing the.

Speaker 7 (01:29:03):
Big ones coming out.

Speaker 9 (01:29:03):
You'll see the little beasty ones here in the day,
but right when you get when it gets dark, the
big ones.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
See that's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
That's the That's what I want to see on video.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
If I'm going to stare at my phone, or if
I'm going to stare at my big screen on my
laptop or my at.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
My desk, I want to see that stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:29:20):
Holy cow man, Yes, you get a little treat.

Speaker 9 (01:29:23):
They that's some pretty good ones coming up to the feeders,
and it's fun to see. Heck, I work here and
I still look at the camera, sl you do.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
You're deer hunter man. Hey, Mark Man. I greatly appreciate
this call, buddy, Thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (01:29:37):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Yeah. I like hearing about that. Thanks. Well, all right man, Okay, gosh,
I can't see that screen. Oh there we go? Thank you?
Was that Tommy? Did we lose him again? I've been
trying to dial him up. Holy cow. I wonder if
he maybe didn't hang up his phone completely or something.

(01:29:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Let me see if he sent me something. Oh, we
had this great conversation and I'm gonna ask you about this.
I'm gonna talk about that, and now I can't find him.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Dang it. All right, well, I'll tell you what we'll do.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
I will when we go to this next break in
a few minutes, I'll try to get him back on
the phone on my cell phone and we'll get him
to call in. I think he's just he's kind of
sitting there wondering what the heck happened? Basically seven one
three two one two five seven ninety email on me
Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. Once we get out on
this break, I've got several emails. I need to go

(01:30:33):
check on Captain Scott kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
He's not bragging, he's just letting me know. He's reassuring me,
is all he's doing. I'm kind of joking about that,
but he wait, let me get back to my emails,
because that's where that is, Scott. No, there we go,
tagging deer. I've been using this is Scott. I've been
using the duct tape and sharpie for doze. I zip
tie it to an ear. Yeah, that makes sense. Just

(01:30:58):
put a little slice in the ear, or you could
just zip tight around the base of the ear if
you don't want to cut a slit in the ear.
Either way, it's it's going to be permanently attached, and
that's what you're looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
I mean notes.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
One other thing I've done on butts when I've cut
off the skull cap is just to write the confirmation
number on the bear skull.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
That makes sense as well.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
That makes good sense on the antlers, so that way
the all the pieces kind of go together. That's a
a great idea. Oh, really outstanding. Put him on the phone.
Holy cow, hey t O, we finally found you.

Speaker 12 (01:31:35):
I didn't realize that I called in and didn't realize
you were trying to call me.

Speaker 6 (01:31:40):
I never got a phone call with.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Yeah that I don't Frankie was trying to dial the
number and every time he'd start dialing, the line would
just go dead. So we're here though, let's don't worry
about that. So you and I wanted you to kind
of in your from your point of view talk about
what I was talking about. Whether it's more important to
buy a fan putter that's supposed to keep you from

(01:32:02):
from turning on an arc and keep that club based
square all the way through the putt somehow, or just
learning to use a good solid swing and use your
own muscles to keep it squared up.

Speaker 12 (01:32:16):
Well, like it was, like I was saying you, Dougar,
there's you got to kind of know the mindset of
the of the person. Are there someone that's going to
work on their game and and they want to get
better and all avenues of putting, or are they just
looking for something that helps them twice a month when
they're or once a weekend when they're when they're playing.
You know, the most important fundamental in putting is the

(01:32:36):
face squared impact, and the beauty of the zero torque
putters is that that really helps average Joe do that.

Speaker 6 (01:32:44):
Like I said, ninety percent of putting is the face
of impact right there. Amen, What a zero What a
zero torque does not guarantee is great distance control.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
Another thing.

Speaker 12 (01:32:53):
You can't have good distance control with it with a
zero torque putter. But like I said, there are certain
things that a conventional you know, arcing stroke will help
with that. I've seen most of the greatest putters of
our day use. And then you know, it's very difficult
to try to keep the putter dead square up and
down the target line.

Speaker 6 (01:33:13):
I actually think that there's more manipulation in that than
there is and trying to keep the square to an arc.
And that's not because I think that way.

Speaker 12 (01:33:21):
It's because we stand to the side of the ball,
and any short when you stand the side of the
ball where it be tennis, golf, baseball, whatever, you have
to make a slight arcing motion to hit the ball straight.
And so it's a great way of squaring the club
face up there. But the beauty of the of the
zero torque putters is if you've got a guy that's
let's say, got a cut stroke.

Speaker 6 (01:33:40):
Remember Billy Mayfair back to day I'm kind of aging myself.

Speaker 12 (01:33:42):
A little bit when I say that he won on
the tour with a cutstroke and Billy's face was really
square at impact.

Speaker 6 (01:33:49):
And again that's the most important piece.

Speaker 12 (01:33:53):
I'm never gonna be brashing up to say there's something
wrong with putting that way.

Speaker 6 (01:33:57):
I mean, if you shoot sixty seven, I don't care
what you do.

Speaker 12 (01:34:00):
But if you're struggling, yeah, I mean I got that
drug it from my good friend stan Ettley. I'm a
player first, I don't care. You know, if you play well,
we're not going to change anything. Which I try to
really emphasize the people when I work with them and whatnot.

Speaker 6 (01:34:12):
But again, I think that the beauty of.

Speaker 12 (01:34:15):
The zero torque cutters is that they really emphasize having
to face square at impact, which is very difficult for
a lot of people and whatnot.

Speaker 6 (01:34:26):
But if it's a both, it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Takes good practice to accomplish that, doesn't it. And a
lot of people just don't want to put in the time.

Speaker 12 (01:34:33):
That's exactly correct. They they want to buy a game,
which today we can buy a game more than we
ever have with clubs that don't spend the ball as.

Speaker 6 (01:34:40):
Much, with balls that don't spend as much.

Speaker 12 (01:34:43):
That's actually a complaint that a good player will have
that talk going, like I can't draw it when I
want to draw it, I can't fade it when I
want to fait it, because this.

Speaker 6 (01:34:50):
Equipment is made to not spend today, So at any rate,
it's just it's.

Speaker 12 (01:34:55):
I would say that those zero talkers are wonderful, especially
for shorter, shorter putts, for.

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
These people that don't practice a whole lot, right.

Speaker 12 (01:35:02):
Because now all of a sudden you're making that three footer,
you're making that four footer, so instead of having a
three put you do have a two pot, you know,
eight feet and in. It makes them really really good.
It doesn't guarantee thirty five feet and in is going
to be a tapped in after that.

Speaker 6 (01:35:14):
Not the thing that you can't do that.

Speaker 12 (01:35:16):
But again it automatically with technology really helps the face
be squared impact, which is most crucial, particularly from eight
feeting in right there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
Do you think you and I will live long enough?
You might?

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
I want to see the first gyroscopic controlled putter.

Speaker 11 (01:35:35):
It's just you know, you know, that's a big word, Doug.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
I mean, they can they they have these movie cameras
now where somebody can be just running alongside someone else
and the camera when it's filming, when it's videoing, has
it perfectly level and the person who's holding is bouncing
and jumping and all that, and they just have a
gyroscope ready cam.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
Yes, you anny cam. That's exactly right, all.

Speaker 10 (01:36:00):
Right, Doug, Let's see how Let's see.

Speaker 6 (01:36:02):
How good you are? Who made that? Who made that
popular and famous? First?

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Not a clue?

Speaker 6 (01:36:07):
What movie?

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
I have?

Speaker 6 (01:36:08):
No irocky oh yeah, rocky.

Speaker 12 (01:36:11):
When Stallan was running up the steps, yep uh, they
were using.

Speaker 6 (01:36:14):
A steady cam to run up the steps as well
with him, to make it look as steady as it was.
And whatnot.

Speaker 9 (01:36:19):
I hope the game.

Speaker 10 (01:36:20):
Doesn't get that complicated.

Speaker 5 (01:36:22):
I'd love that there's there'd be some some art.

Speaker 7 (01:36:24):
Steal to this.

Speaker 6 (01:36:25):
But at any rate that the technology is cool.

Speaker 12 (01:36:28):
You know what these guys to figure it out too,
that if someone will spend six or seven hundred bucks
on a driver who do the same thing for a putter,
and it's like scary if the manufacturers have figured out
because that's how much these putters cost. You know, it's
like amazing what people will pay. But I mean, people
will do anything to make more putts, you know, and
so uh and technology.

Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
Is pretty incredible. And again, like I said, just based
upon whatever it is you're looking to do right there.
If it's just a one.

Speaker 12 (01:36:54):
Time affair, a couple of times a month, whatever, and
you just want to make a few more putts, I mean,
it's a great situation. I'm not saying it's not good
long term. But you know, I don't see the absolute
best putters that have ever lived using a putter like that.

Speaker 6 (01:37:09):
Even if they came back on the tour today, they
would still use what they what they used. I think.

Speaker 12 (01:37:13):
Again, I'm not downplaying or talking bad about zero tork putters,
but you know the same time, there is a feel
and an r helment to it. I don't I don't
see Ben Crunch using zero tork, But I kind of agree.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
With you, I really do.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
I would rather practice and get a consistent stroke than
rely on a putter to do it for me for
three footers that I might make one more of out
of five. Hey, I got a bounce, man, But thank you,
Tommy Tommy ogolf dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Is that right? I hope I got it right.

Speaker 6 (01:37:41):
You got it right, absolutely Doug.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Yeah, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Tommy all right mannered audio audios my friend. Okay, can
you get get that for me? Yeah, it's Tommy ogolf
dot com. He's out at Blackhawk and you can anybody
who wants lessons from him can get them out there
from him.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Let me get Mike teed up here. There we go.
Hey Mike, what's up? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
Hey, how are you doing? Doug? Good?

Speaker 8 (01:38:03):
Good kid to.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Hear from you. Yes, sir, you too. What's going on?

Speaker 13 (01:38:07):
I just had twoth at two point things. One's an observation.
Have you ever played river Point down there? Blow great wood?

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Yeah? I have several times.

Speaker 8 (01:38:17):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:38:19):
I just had a question. The front nine is interesting,
really great, lots of water, challenging. The back nine is
the most boring back nine.

Speaker 6 (01:38:26):
There is four going out.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
That's kind of out. Yeah, that's an out and back.
That was just what the land they had. They did
what they could.

Speaker 6 (01:38:32):
That's what I thought.

Speaker 8 (01:38:33):
Okay.

Speaker 13 (01:38:34):
Second question is, and I'll hang up, do you think,
uh is there a better way to clear a deer
blind of WASP? I mean, I don't go out to
my friend's ranch. He goes out there, and I'm so paranoid.

Speaker 8 (01:38:47):
To those wash can you is there a.

Speaker 13 (01:38:49):
Bomb or is there anything you can do to throw
in there?

Speaker 8 (01:38:51):
I know the wash spray, that's what we usually use.

Speaker 6 (01:38:54):
Yeah, but how dangs put up in there?

Speaker 13 (01:38:56):
Is there a ball you could throw in there?

Speaker 11 (01:38:58):
And if so, how early?

Speaker 13 (01:39:00):
How long before you go hunting? Do you need to
do that so the smell doesn't affect your your chemistry?

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Yeah, you don't want to get.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
Yourself all poisoned up by that stuff and be breathing it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
I don't It doesn't take long. I'm a fan of
the deer.

Speaker 6 (01:39:15):
I'm thinking about the deer.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
So oh okay, you know, you know if you I mean,
if that's not I don't know how much that would
scare deer. Just something, think about it. It may smell like
a flower to them. Who knows, Maybe there's some And
you know, I would say, if you're worried about the
smell bothering the deer, you'd probably need to do it,

(01:39:36):
probably at least three or four days. At least three
or four days they had to let the and open
everything up. But then that opens it up to other
things getting in there. Oh yeah, Or you can just
put a glove on it reaching there and just grab
that waspness and throw it down on the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
Run how fast can you run?

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
Mike?

Speaker 8 (01:39:58):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Yeah, I know there was a.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
Time when I might have been talked into that on
a on a bed if I could have made enough money.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
But not anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
Man, now, Garret, I'll tell you somebody who just cringed
a little bit. As Captain Scott, he's not once but
twice encountered killer bees in his life.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
And it wasn't fun for him either time. Yeah, what
a mess?

Speaker 6 (01:40:21):
Who? Yeah, you can hear.

Speaker 13 (01:40:22):
One person got to hit a swivel kind of rocker
in his blind and he didn't pay attention, and there was.

Speaker 6 (01:40:29):
A nest under under the chair gear.

Speaker 13 (01:40:35):
And everything was fine until the things start warming up,
you know, because that's when those watch start moving. Yeah,
and uh, he got Fortunately he's someone crawling out and
I guess beneath him and he got out without getting
Gotta check downder that seat.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
You gotta check everywhere, man.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
The biggest scare a friend of mine had one time
he opened up the door and and he check the
thing previously for washed and everything was clear. And he
opens up the door to go in and an owl
flew out.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
Right past his head and he said he almost fell
a They just scared the bejeepers out of him.

Speaker 6 (01:41:11):
You know, we like explosion.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
Yeah, yeah, I mean this is out of there.

Speaker 8 (01:41:20):
It's great.

Speaker 6 (01:41:21):
Enjoy everything to give us. It's really entertaining.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Thank you, Mike. I appreciate it, Yes, sir, you too. Audios.
All right, Holy cow, I'm running a little bit late.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
I apologize for that to you, Frankie, and we'll try
to catch up here real quick. Phoenix Knives out in Belleville,
right there on Main Street, a big new facility opened
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Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
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Talk seven ninety good heavens. We're almost well.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
We are where we would normally take a break, but
because I'm such a big.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Mouth, I've run a little bit long.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
I'm gonna make sure we get get Aaron's phone call
in here. I'll get that cursor over there and kaboom, Aaron.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
What's up man?

Speaker 8 (01:42:24):
Hey morning, Doug Hull, Good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
I'm doing great, I am. I got three cups of coffee.
I mean, I'm bouncing off the walls.

Speaker 8 (01:42:31):
Yeah, I'm on number two. But so trying to wake
up from that drive back Montana.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Well, bet you are.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
How many hours do you typically drive straight when you're
making these.

Speaker 8 (01:42:40):
Trips I'm coming coming back to the girlfriends.

Speaker 7 (01:42:47):
Four hours.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Whatever it takes.

Speaker 8 (01:42:50):
It takes on the way up a lot less. But
it just kind of depends whether road conditions, weather, it's
a holiday, when it's amateur hour there. Yeah, you know,
I really prefer driving at night.

Speaker 9 (01:43:04):
Now.

Speaker 8 (01:43:04):
It's just because the eighteen wheelers they're a much more
professional driver.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 8 (01:43:09):
A little bit cooler out, yeah, less traffic. So but
well you can believe you can believe this or not.
But as all going up, my father used to go
up to his yellow jacket mess and just smash him
with his hand. No, never, he would never get stung, ye,
my lord, Well, once he caught on to it scared

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the bejeebers out of us. He did it even more.
I'm sure he's still he's about eighty two now. He's
still looking at him and look at us like he's
gonna do it. No, no, no, don't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
Oh my word, those yellow jackets, man, they scare me.
Because when I was a little I say, they scare me.
I'll just spray them and be done with them. But
when I was probably eight years old playing catch in
the backyard with either my dad or there was a
big kid down the down the way who'd come and
play catch with me, I'm just obsessed with baseball. We
had the gustrooms across the backyard and I reached in

(01:44:03):
there to grab a baseball, and when I looked down,
I picked up the ball, and when I brought my
head back up, I was nose to back end of
a whole yellowjacket nest. And they said, oh, a friend,
and they all just jumped on my face and stung me.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
I puffed up like a toad. Man. I don't know
how many times they stuck me. God it hurt.

Speaker 8 (01:44:24):
Yeah, I didn't. It in my grandmother's ivy as well,
so I feel for your last car too, because als
they're so quiet and many times been down in Pierce
all hunting and uh a bart out, bring me a treat,
leave it in there. Yeah, gosh, yeah, that's that's I

(01:44:47):
didn't realize there's so many bar owls down there. But yeah,
it was pretty thick.

Speaker 9 (01:44:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
But I mean it's our own fault because we're out
there in their house and if we we we leave
our house are blind, our house abandoned. Guess what, there's
gonna be some squatters in there next time you come around,
No telling what you'll find it.

Speaker 8 (01:45:06):
Last thing, did you happen to see that that hybrid
of green jay and blue jay that they've they'd found
that out here in San Antonio?

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
I did not. I haven't seen that new species.

Speaker 8 (01:45:18):
Yeah, a green jay and the blue jay got drunk
some of the time.

Speaker 6 (01:45:24):
And the new species.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
About that, I haven't seen it. What's I mean, what's
the predominant coloration on the bird?

Speaker 8 (01:45:33):
Uh? It looks it looks almost like a scrub jay
or opinion j Yeah, yeah, it's it's got more of
the physical characteristics of a green jay, but it's got
that blue jay. Car I'll send you the article.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
The first time I ever saw a green jay down
in South Texas, I thought, I thought I was seeing things.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
And what is it?

Speaker 11 (01:45:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:45:53):
Cool, I saw one of the pleasant to believe it
or not that far north. It breaks me out weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Uh you too, man, call back anytime you know that.

Speaker 8 (01:46:04):
We will.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Thanks Aaron S. I see man audios.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
All right, we got to take a little break here,
barely time for that, but I'm gonna make sure I
get it in because I want to tell you about
berry Hill Baja Grill down in sugar Land, right there
at Sugar Creek Boulevard and fifty nine on the inbound side.
Berry Hill's been in Sugarland about as long as I have,
thirty something years, and they turn out some of the
best Mexican food you'll ever put in your mouth. Outstanding fish, tacos,

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outstanding seafood, enchiladas.

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
I love it all at berry Hill.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
You will too, dining inside and out in a very
family friendly, comfortable atmosphere. Berryhillsugar Land dot com. Berryhillsugar Land
dot Com.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
All right, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Only got a couple of minutes, three or four maybe
before we have to bail out of here. Make room
for Sports Investors Daily, and that'll if you're man, if
you're in that mood, if you're kind of liking what's
going on.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Frankie took a call from More.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
One thing he did bring up was talking about when
Lee Trevino interacted with the crowd. Mark writes, that was
really fun. He wishes it was still like that, or
Frankie wrote that part, but anyway, I would totally agree.
And the reason it's unlike that now, the reason there
isn't much interaction I think between players and the spectators

(01:47:24):
along the ropes now. Once they get finished with their rounds,
all of these guys, or most of them anyway, unless
they've had just a horrible experience that day and need
to go shake it off, most of them stop and
sign autographs and to intermingle a little bit. It's almost
obligatory that they do that, so they do. Some stay

(01:47:47):
out there later, another some will stay there till the
ink runs dry and there's nobody left to sign for.
Others will give it ten minutes or so and then
just say I gotta go bye bye. But the bottom
line is, nowadays it's so much there are so many
more people dependent on that one person for their livelihoods

(01:48:08):
that the person who is making all the swings and
gets all the notoriety, I think feels an obligation.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
To the staff.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
The literal staff they have in charge of all their stuff.
They've got somebody taking care of travel. They've got somebody
taking care of their short game, somebody teaching them on
their full swing, somebody teaching them they're putting. They've got
a site coach, they've got head coaches to keep them
emotionally balanced on the golf course. And some of them,

(01:48:38):
some of them have worse tempers than others, and they've
got to keep that in control to be able to
excel at golf. So they've got all these people they
pay and who depend on them, and I think they
they sacrifice fun on the golf course for making sure
that everybody's paycheck is going to be secured at the
end of those four rounds each week. It's kind of

(01:49:01):
a somewhat sad because back when the players were a
little more jovial and the only person they were traveling
with was their caddy, that's the only person they had
to worry about taking care of. And even then, they
were just giving them a percentage of what they want.
It wasn't salaried at all, and a lot of times,
if you go back far enough, it wasn't even air

(01:49:21):
travel between tournaments. They would ally the caddy and the
player may usually two caddies and two players jump in
a station wagon and drive to the next tournament. And
that's how they worked. And it was a lot looser,
a lot less stressful, I think back then.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
So that's why it worked. That's all. Those were the days. Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
I am going to go back over to my desk
on the other side of this big giant office space
we're in and go look up. Las raisis live stream,
and I'm gonna see what's going on with those deer
stands over there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
I can't wait for that. I can't wait to be
back to tomorrow either. That's it for now. I'll be
back tomorrow morning at eight.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Get outside, have some fun with your family's audios.