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November 1, 2024 15 mins
Wrapping up Week 9 a bit earlier than the others across the league, C.J. Stroud and the Texans took on Aaron Rodgers and the Jets yesterday evening on Thursday Night Football in a bit of an horrible scene it was to watch as the Texans go down following a final score of 21-13. Without Nico Collins and with Stefon Diggs going down for the remainder year, the Texans rolled into Thursday's game a bit light in depth against Aaron and the Jets. Still having issues upfront regarding the offensive line, the Texans allowed eight quarterback sacks followed by eleven quarterback hits in their game against New York. Aaron Wilson joins and discusses the Texans flaws last night as well as what to be on the look for as we inch closer and closer to the trade deadline. 
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury. Old, okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury, the USC Truths, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Ryan Lima, go Lobos.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
This is the Sean Salsbury Show. Usually we have this
man join us to preview a game, but obviously last
night Texan's playing. He joins us for his weekly visits
to recap a game. He is Aaron Wilson. Yeah, Aaron
Wilson KPRC channel too.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
You get all the great stuff there as well as
at Aaron Wilson on Twitter and right here at Sports
seven ninety dot com. I'm sure just got off that
flight and long trip back when when it turns out
like it did, let's let's let's get to the elephant
in the room. Aaron welcome in has always does such
a great job covering the Texans and NFL for us.
The elephant in the room. Can they continue to play

(00:59):
with the guys they're running out there at offensive line
and be successful.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Well? Yes and no. Yes in the sense that they
run the ball well and they may have to change
their philosophy. Can they run this offense throng this much?
I mean, she straut is not indstructible. Last time I
checked he doesn't have an s under his uniform. He's
not Superman. And you know, he's hit eleven times, he's

(01:27):
sacked eight times. I know one of the sacks he's
just chased out of the bounce. But nonetheless, it's changing,
not just you know, him being tackled and things like that.
It's changing him missing open guys. And he's not perfect
because when you're hit this much, you play quarterback at
a high level. You know, if you're always knowing you're

(01:49):
going to be hit, changes everything. You don't have that
confidence to just stay in the pocket because what do
you expect.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Comes out pretty maturely. Yeah, absolutely, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, so it's affecting time. I mean, it's not just
and like he said last night, and he's so good,
so smart about these things, and he said, you know,
I can get the ball faster. He always takes accountability.
But he also said, just having Nico Collins back for
the next game, that's not enough. It's not just about
the personnel. They've got to have time. They've got to

(02:18):
fix this, and if they don't, you know, I hate
to use the word crisis, but I think that it
applies here. Sean. It's very bad. Did they need a
new offensive line coach? You know, Chris Strausser, you can
possibly you you look internal. You know, Nicole Popovich was
given a new deal to come back. He was very
highly regarded with the Patriots. He then, because it is

(02:42):
if have acting stance, was like, go by the Patriots
once to try university, come here. They think pretty highly
of him. He got a significant raise to come back.
Maybe you look internal. I don't know. Maybe he's part
of the problem. You wouldn't know until you change. I
don't know what you can do. You can't ben some
of these guys. I mean, basically, Jeremy Tunssel is the
only real made man as far as pass blocking, and

(03:03):
the other guys, they have their struggles. So I don't
know what you can do about it because there's very little.
I mean, you saw when Kenyon Green, unfortunately he just
located his shoulder, and I thought it was deplorable that
some fans were happy about that. On social I saw
some of those remarks that's awful, that's that's people. But

(03:24):
that said, Kendrick Green is like and he said, I'm rusty.
You know, I did my best. He set it up
a sack. You know, he had a couple of good plays.
Maybe with some coaching, you can get him at a
better level than Kenyon, but that's not going to get
you anywhere in the playoffs. They just look like a
team to me that once they get into postseason it's
gonna quick exit because how are they going to block?

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Right?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
But long season, Like Jareremy Tuncle said, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Everybody you play in the postseason is good too. You're
not You're not getting You're not getting a team that
you're supposed to dominate. And Aaron Wilson joins us as
he does every week, this week a post game talking
about the game last night with the Jets. Aaron, I've
found the hardest thing to do during a football season
is turn an offensive and make them great when they're
nine games in. You know what I'm saying, You got

(04:10):
to make shift. It's hard to correct. You can correct
plays and a little step here and how you're teaching
it and all that, but to have a complete overhaul
during the season near impossible. So that leads me to this,
And you mentioned a change. Does this team? Is there
any buzz at all? Did a change could be eminent,

(04:30):
whether it's a starter or a coach.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
There's no one on the bench that you could, with
a sound loge of argument say you should replace this person,
right Blake Fisher when he has played played fine, but
there's nothing saying, oh, well, this will fix it. They
have one move they haven't done, and I don't think
they want to. I don't think he's played that badly
at right tackle to shift Tightest Howard to left guard

(04:57):
just because you think Blake Fitcher said just talent. I
think Blake's a good developmental linement for the future, but
he needs to get stronger. I don't know that would
be better. And you know, you can talk about Jared
Patterson and you're played okay. I don't think he's fundlingly sound.
He's concussed right now, but I don't know that that
changes it. I think you could just try to get

(05:19):
Kindrick going. The main thing is you have to coach
them better, and they've got to be coachable, and it's
a big problem. By the way, uh anikoa Ryans don't
want to get fined, But that bad call on the
when they flagged Derek Stingley Junior, they still could have
won this game, and then they still.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Be you know that was they missed that.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah, kind of an opinion up hockey because I've covered
some of hockey's games. Now, I think Hockley thinks it's
about him. I think he's a lot like his dad,
So I think his dad was not better in referee
as far as the technical understanding of the game. But
I just say hockey is bad. He he must take
every memo they send him in New York and just
do that. It also felt like are they trying to

(06:05):
create a moment because I don't think the guy scored.
I really I still think that he was out.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
On the touchdown.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I don't think it was.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I thought that, yeah, and that what was the call
in the field was an incompletion?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Correct, that was the right call? Yeah, yeah, but I.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Can tell from my vantage point just looking at it
as that you know, I'm not getting I'm not anybody's
payroll there is. Mile had one question, and I said
this early in the show, is when you go to
the side. Now, you catch a ball and you go
left foot in, heel in, but the right toe hits
the white while the heel is on the ground in

(06:44):
one fell motion. That is an incomplete pass. So my
question was, okay, so what is the difference in had
one foot in and then went down in the shin
hit and then the knee right after went in to
the white. So is the shin and the knee front
than the white because if we're just saying if the
shin hits and doesn't matter what the knee does after

(07:06):
the shin in one fell motion, not with Britain, not
where there's a shift in it, but one fell motion.
His his his shin was down before before then his
knee hit the white. So however the rule, but the
shin did get down before his knee hit the white.
So if that's the rule, it would have been a catch.
And I would have said the same thing, right.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
I think they got to explain it better.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
There were great.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Uh from last night, but that said too, they have
other issues on their side.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Of the football.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
You don't watch Jaalen Teacher on de Monte Adam.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
That was the biggest mismatch in the game. I'm so
glad you said that. How does that happen? How do
they get lined up that way? Jalen is the guy
that so I'm a little linebacker postal on the scrimmage,
you know, short area coverage, zone stuff, blitzes, let him

(08:02):
do what he does well. I just didn't see that
was a good use of how they deployed their personnel.
And to me, they still need another corner o. Kuda's
coming back soon. But I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
They can do because normally, you know, the way he
does it, they play all the coroners all the time,
and they've got too good starting outside corners. But could
they add a Kudah to the mix. That's something else
to consider once he starts practicing, and that'll happen at
some point. But yeah, I mean, not a lot of
positives to take away from this other than Joe Mixon.
Who's I mean, where would they be?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
He's the most valuable player. He's the most valuable player
on the offense, and it's without question in my mind.
Aaron Wilson joins for a couple more minutes. Aaron, we
talked about combating pass protection. Okay, you know, turnback protection
where we're play action. We chip a guy back, we
we bring it two tight ends in and we max
protect if necessary. You know, bring a guy into the

(08:56):
slot and he chips on the way out to the
flat on a late delay, whatever it is. But there's
also a coordinator situation where the quick game. You know,
they love vertical passing game, and they made a lot
of off schedulesut made some off schedule plays last night.
Why are we Why is the quick game become so
limited right now?

Speaker 4 (09:17):
I don't have to answer that question. Why they would
not do that? And they only completed pass to three
different targets and those are Dalton Schultz, Tank Dale who
played very well. Tank stepped up as the wide receiver
one he did enough. He was actually more a big
play guy than Diggs was, and that was that was

(09:37):
refreshing to see. But they should be throwing slants. They
should be going through the vis completions. Dalton Schultz will
catch a lot of if you've give him chances and
enough chances. I think the same could be said Robert Woods.
Robert Woods is reliable yep, uh right on, and a
guy that just a classy pro blocks give it chances.

(10:02):
I mean, there's nothing wrong with just taking the eight
to ten yards and doing it several times. If that's
how you have to get down the field, that's how
you get.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Down so well. Yeah, make a simple play, yes, but.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
When you have Nico. Yes, you can strike the other team.
But this right now, this scaled down group, that's what
it should have been. It should have been those guys emphasized,
and you know, where's the play action because they have
to respect play action fakes with Joe Mixon.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, that's the odd thing Aaron with with mixing as
good as he is and Stroud as good as he
was last year and as good as he is now.
That that's that should off that that should slow down
the pass rush for you. How the running games better
and pass protections were set. It doesn't usually work that way.
You run it well, guys are on skates and the
protection's easier.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
It's easier when you can run it well.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah, I mean throw it to Joe. Just give it
to Joe in a variety of ways. Show is that
kind of weapon. He loves to catch the football. He's joys,
he's got great hands. I mean, the guy there's nothing
really the Joe can't do. Joego block too. I mean,
there's a lot of things Joke can do. It's just

(11:17):
offense right now. And you know, Bobby Slowan's kind of
I think kinda take them off car. Look in the
mirror bigger things. He's smile and just be very honest, uh,
very accountable he was last week. But the wildcat play,
I mean, yeah, Brian said it right. When it works,
you're a hero. And it doesn't, Yeah, everybody's like, oh,
that was stupid. It's just got to be a better

(11:39):
call than that, and he wasn't. I just think it's coolly,
you know, having him line up.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
There, mix in the game right and strouded quarterback and
get mixing involved another way than putting the ball in
his hand that way.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I would. I just I think he gets too cute sometimes. Yes, yes, I.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Don't think the CD you run it like kind of
like right away the pump, you freeze the defense and
then you do your Joe Mixon thing. It's the same
thing as the handoffs you got the ball. I wouldn't
mind seeing stuff like that. If you occasionally want to
snap it direct, snap it to them things like that,
that's fine. But you know they lack a dominant lead blocker.
That's another part of this offense that's missing. And they

(12:20):
don't grow on trees anymore. It's just it's hard to
find guys like that, and they've actually got tired of
Andrew Beck's injuries and moved on from Andrew and Andrews
no longer with the Packers. But I don't think that
there's really an answer. It's just going to use the
person that you have, and you've got to be very,
very very smart about avoiding errors and playing high position football.

(12:45):
But you know, there's a lot of things. I don't
know firing strausers enough. I don't think that necessarily does it.
I mean, these players, they make the same mistakes. When
you quote that's layering me about they do the same thing.
They do this every week. They run overloads, they run twist.
This team didn't really need to run stunts. And they're
just talented. I mean, that's one thing the Jets have
as a defense. And I'll say this for Las Vegas.

(13:09):
They talk about the smart money, Well they're picking them
one and a half quite favorite, and they're right.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yes, I picked I picked the Jets yesterday too. Until
the protection gets better and be embarrassed. I have the
Jets by four. I had the Jets win by four.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
I thought that the Texans would win. I thought they
took care of business. I was dead wrong. Well, and
this is the only game that they lost that I
was wrong about. I picked the Minnesota in Green Bay
at this time, I thought it's the Jets. I just
didn't respect the Jets enough. So that's on me.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
And the schedules is a little bit favorable for the Jets.
They can get on a roll. And Aaron, we appreciate it.
And I got news for everybody. Ain't gonna get it.
Ain't gonna get easier next Sunday night against uh you know,
in ten days against the Detroit Lions. That's the best
team in the NFC. So I'll look forward to talking
to you next week. Brother, Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I appreciate it. That's Aaron Wilson.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
One thing going away, I would have you to time
out in that situation of the game when you had
DeVante Adams lined up on Petrie, that's a when a
safety's covering a You saw what DeVante Adams did on
the fourth and five to Lasseter slot Man all the way.

(14:19):
That's as big a mismatch as you'll get in football.
You can't you cannot allow a safety to cover one
of the best perimeter receivers in the league.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
You just can't. And if you.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
See it, call time out. Grab him, clutch, do something
that was that was shooting fish in a barrel.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
The second Aaron saw it, he was going one place
with the football, DeVante Adams on a slot. Fade, big box,
fade for the touchdown and make that guy chase. He
didn't even get his hands on him. I had no shot.
And he's a great player around the line of scrimmage
and hitting people and a ball hawk in coverage. That
is that you beg for what they got. And Aaron Rodgers,

(14:54):
he was not throwing the ball to one other player
on the field last night, Petrie against DeVante Adams. That's
a mismatch made for the offensive unit. And he said,
pressure be damned. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, that's probably got to be one where Demiico Rans
is doing the sprint down the sidelines, doing the time
out right in front of the line. Judge right hereentry
just admit the WII and say give me a timeout.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I can't cover this dude. And no disrespect to him,
it's just a fact. Yeah, there's no safety help when
you are the guy. All right, So we're way over.
We'll continue the conversation next. A couple of good points
that Aaron brought up about Bobby Slok will continue on
the other side right here, Sean Salisbury Show
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