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Kd E Houston at Houston and Iheard radio station. This is Sports Talk
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Houston. Okay, let's do this. Sean Salisbury, there to usc true,
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is the Sean Salisbury Show. ShawnTripley, good morning, Good morning morning
triple You can't. You can't openthe show. Yes, you can't open

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the show when people are in theirwake up call. Yes, I can't.
I calls the sticky stuff. That'swhat it is. You can't.
That's what it is. Little rosin, little sweat, and mix it together
and it's sticky. So they sayit was rosin. Huh, you can't
use it on either arm. ButI'll tell you a hell of a hell
of an explanation. But he wrotehelp blank. It might have been on
my form and slipped down into myglove and just kind of hung around the

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fingers. Who knows how many callsthis morning? Are we gonna take all
the Major League Baseball hates or noteven our our callers are pretty bright about
that. Yeah, but there willbe Twitter if you haven't already seen it,
that blames that Baseball hates the Astros. Well, they changed what is
that Yakamoto's glove? Was that whoit was? Yakamota for the Dodgers.
Yeah, they changed, They lethim change his glove. But and I

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understand the thought process of that,But I think we can compartmentalize and say,
keep this. There's no conspiracy byMajor League Baseball. Let's get Blanco
out. That's it's he's pitching well, and it's the Astros. I don't
think so. Bottom line is Joeneeds to know, meaning a spota Blanco
needs to know you can't do it. Yeah, yeah, you just can't
do it. I don't know whatthe what the stuff is it's in his

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glove and that, But I knowthe umpire who originally checked him said,
it's the most the stickiest substance he'sseen since they started doing this, and
they went all four umpires had validated, didn't need to replace. The bottom
line is, whatever it was,whether it was on purpose or not,
when four guys say it, yougot to trust that. They say.

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Whether you like umpires calls at homeplate or you think there's a conspiracy against
the Astros. And I don't thinkanybody sweats sticky, So something is on
the glove or what have you,or what whether it was on accident,
he purpose whatever, he got caughtand got ejected and he was pitching pretty
decent. Yeah, I will Iwill ask. I mean, I'm sure

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we'll talk about this a few differenttimes this morning, but I will ask
as we start the show if ifhe had to, if he had it
on the glove, yep. AndI'm not by any means saying that baseball
is against the Astros. Domingo Hermanat one point was able to switch his
glove or I'm sorry, wash hishands, which if you remember, that
was that last year, right,yeah, last year, And then they

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allowed Yakamoto to switch his glove.So is it is it? Yeah?
But is it per case? Well, I think there's genuinely as to me,
to me, the rules should be, I mean, is there is
there flexibility and what you could doper game different? Like one crew says
all, hey, you know what, just go switch your glove and we'll
call it good. Oh, hey, Renald Blanco, it's a little too

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much on there you're gone. Seeit's obviously a judgment call. That's okay,
that that's it's a judgment. Hell, it's a judgment call in each
place. Yes, that does.But to me, I think the rules
pretty steadfast. And if there's asixty six sticky substance in your glove that
they find an advantage for you orillegal, you should be ejected. It's
simple that it should be. Yeah. Now, I don't know if it

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was a tweener in Los Angeles,and I didn't even read the article.
I saw the headline and saw theby the dugout and and the comment.
But did he change gloves because therewas a sticky substance? Did he change
gloves because it was something else?That's what I don't know. I didn't
see, So they just did.From what I saw, they checked him
had something in question in regards tosticky substance, and they maybe as the

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jem of the sticky substance, maybeit's well, we're not sure, it's
something's off, go change the gloveand let's see, you know, And
maybe that's the case. Do Ithink that there's a different standard for the
astros, I absolutely do not do. I think maybe certain umpires have it'd
be like this when a strike zone. Some are extremely extremely liberal and strike

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zone right, and then there's somethat say no, no, no calling
it, trying it by the letterof the law if it's over the strike
zone. That are usually pretty deadon. Some are very judicious in the
strike zone, and some are veryoh excessive on where they let that ball
go with. I mean, Isaw a pitch, an overhead camera pitch
over the weekend. I think Iwas watching a Red Sox game or I
can't remember, but they showed ahighlight of a strike up. The ball

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was six inches outside the plate andthey wrung him up called it a strike.
Where it's like, you can't callthat strike if you're a getting a
free snow cone as an upire inthe seventh grade. But I think it's
I think they want the rule tosay sticky substance, get him out.
I think regardless, Now, thequestion is how big is the sin do
they think when this guy says thisumpire and crew here says it's the stickiest

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substance safe scene since they started this, Well, then there is no room
for go get another glove if it'sthere and they're saying, you know what,
it feels a little tacky or youknow, sticky, but we're not
sure. And then you go throughthe whole umpire and crew and they feel
the same way. So is itkind of weak? Yeah, it is.

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But when you get human air involved, I mean, and we don't
have something you know, like youstick you know how you stick your your
thermometer in your turkey to see howto the temperature. We don't have that
where you could stick a sticky stuffa monitor to tell how deep the sticky
stuff is that we're going to ejectyou. So I think it's it's both.
Would this of umpiring crew done thesame thing the Dodgers did if it

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was in there, flip clop thesituations, that's right. That's what you
have to ask yourself. So judgmentcall yes, is it a see?
To me, it needs to beunanimous as well, And you say unanimous,
Well, if it's fifty to fifty, maybe that was it where they
said I'm not sure, not surefifty feets. Okay, go change your
glove, dude, we'll check you, double check you, and keep up

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on it. But to me,if you could use it almost if two
of the four say it's sticky,I think you got to run them if
that's where if we're gonna be fairabout it, because you know, some
guys judge may say, hey,you know, we're having a good game
going here. You know, likefouls in a late game of basketball game,
say it was a little ticky tack. I'm not calling it a fouls
of foules a foul, right,And it's the same thing here. If

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it's sticky, it's sticky. Whetherwhat's the level of sin when you drop
the word hell or you drop anF bomb? You know where, where's
your level of what you did wrong? Then you stole, but you only
stole a piece of candy, notthe whole candy bar. Yeah, you
know what I mean. So Idon't know where that is. I don't
think I think we got to.We've got to guard against. Hopefully that

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ship sailed. Now, maybe notfor everybody, but there's not a Major
League Baseball rule where they're sent aroundsaying punk the Astros more than anybody else.
That doesn't exist. Regardless. Now, there may be umpires who don't
like some of the Astros situation orplayers, but hell, the Dodgers have
had the Dodgers have had plenty oftheir naysayers against them as well. Right,

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So it just depends I think thejudgment call. But I don't know,
and I think it's worthy of aquestion whether Dana Brown would know that
answer, or we can get itfor somebody who do we do a little
due diligence on the Major League Baseballof where's the judgment? Why change the
glove in one city and not?Is it the level of sticky substance that
you judge in that glove or onthat hand that makes you say that the

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thing that bothers me that if itwas Roz how I mean, I if
it is Renewe Blanco saying that you'renot allowed to use rosin? You know
what I'm saying. You can't makeit on the I'm talking about on the
forearm or wherever you put it toprevent the sweat from rolling down under your
You can't have it. You can'tit on you on your being. Yeah,
you can't have it on your wristand forearm opposite of your glove,

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right, or maybe it's your glove. It's one of those. I have
that, right, So I meanyou can obviously there's rosin behind the thing
where you shake it in your handand do it. Maybe it's the location
of the rosin you can't have butmixed with it. And if it was
accidental and they say it's the stickiestsubstance, say, hey, that's a
lot of that's a heavy accident.Right, So I don't know who to
blame. And I don't think Blancowent in knowing you're getting testa say I'm

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gonna fool these dudes, right,you know, you know now I don't
know. Maybe you'd understand certain umpireCERs. I would imagine after a picture,
certain umpire CERs, do you seesome go over there, They'll check
check it real quick and go.I would imagine summer a little bit deeper
principle, you know, the principalof your school is going to swat you
for doing it. Back in theold days, the one that are a
little more uh, like I said, liberal with their not a big deal

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man. But or hey, we'regonna call this to the to the nine
the letter of the law. IfI taste if there's anything sticky in there,
you're gone. I would imagine playersunderstand the crews and how how deep
into the the glove touch they are. And you know what also makes me
think this, do you wonder youdon't like a hitter when Gwynn and Wade

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Bogs rite the plate, or evenin Alex Bregman's ability to understand the strikes?
And do you think that maybe,like, let's take like the Verlanders
or the Jacob Jacob de Gram's orthe Clayton Kershaws of the world. Do
you think they'd get a little moreleeway than the younger guys because they're cag
and veterans and you're almost intimidated bythem. Do you say, now,

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it's Verlander, he's not doing this, he's a pro. It's probably like
in the NBA the foul call andwho doesn't. Right, Yeah, you
get a little more leeway because you'veyou've got a little more skin in the
game. Who's gonna get a who'sgonna get a better or better chance of
getting a call driving in the lane? James or a men Thompson Man Thompson,
a rookie Lebron James, or youcould use any other vests. You've

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given more the benefit of the doubttoo, Schureser and Jake and and and
uh justin Verlander or a third year, guy trying to make his way,
or a guy just you know,stepping onto the scene. And I would
probably assume it's the same. AndI think human nature would we be all.
I think we're all the same.If Tony Gwynn took a pitch,
if you're the umpire, you're prettysafe for the most part. If you're

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if it's close ball, yeah whyTony Gwynn. Right, if it's if
it's Stanton, you're saying, yeah, that's too You gotta you gotta throw
a strike on their guy striking outto Mark Reynolds striking out two hundred twenty
times a year, we got wewe gotta, we gotta ring him up.
I don't know, but I don'tthink there's a conspiracy against the astros.
Yeah, but and I also think, I mean, one of the

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biggest things that's talked about, especiallywhen all the sticky the spider tack stuff
was going on, that big leadersuse a combination of rosin and sunscreen,
and that creates a sticky substance.Even when you mix rosin and it gets
into your pores and starts messing withor gets combined with your sweat, that
causes that sticky substance. But atthe end of the day he had it

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on his arm, which you can'tdo right, and if it did get
into his glove, and I lookedat again. You know, I'm not
a big stat guy, but I'vein my notes for the show today,
I have his spin rate and reallyhe did not have increased spin spin rain,
And that's the whole thing you wantwith using sticky substance. So I
my I personally don't think he wasdoing it to take advantage, advantage and

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use it as a cheating type thing. So if he puts something on his
wrong arm not knowing, you're notallowed to have it on the wrong arm,
I set afterwards. He had noidea he couldn't do it. That's
that's the point. And why didn'tJill let him know? That's that's why
doesn't the pitching staff let him rightthat that I know he said I did,
I didn't know that. I don'tthink he purposely did it because normally
in between you're over there, whatare you doing when you're sweating on that?

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I know, I'm wiping off myforearms right to get the sweat so
it doesn't get down into my fingerson a regular basis, and it's so
close here, you be an idiot. It's like, I'm gonna take a
steroid in front of in front ofthe testing people the day before camp starts,
and then while there, well,I'm peeing for him. It's the
same guy who saw me take ashot of juice the day before and you

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know, a performance enhancer. Idon't think they're doing that, But the
fact that he didn't know the ruleis the stuff that always bothers me,
not for him. That we didn'tgo over it again, does everybody?
Or are we just assuming because theirpros they're supposed to know it. No,
they got a lot on their mind. Yeah, no doubt seven one,
three, two, two, five, seven ninety uh. Phone lines
lighting up already this morning on thistopic. In regards to the sticky stuff

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and Renel Blanco being a jack,The Joe Spot spoke about it after the
game. What did he say?We'll discuss the next on Sports Talk seven
ninety. The Sean Salisbury Show continueson your Roku. Listen to Sports Talk
seven ninety on any device with ourfree iHeartRadio app. Dana Brown joins us
at nine thirty this morning. TheNuggets, the t Wolves nixt beat the

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Pacers in the NBA playoffs the Easternand Western Conference semifinals, continuing to roll
along seven one, three, sevennine. You Renel Bloco ejected last night
for having sticky substance on his armand glove. Got a lot of guys
that want to get in and discussthis. Let's get out to the phone
lines early this morning, six twentyright here on the Sean Salisbury Show.

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Thomas, you're up first, Yes, uh. As far as the sticky
stuff, the gloss, the glove, if they let that Dodger Pitcher off,
you know, just to let lethim change his glove out, I
think that should That's what they shouldhave done with Blanco. As far as

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uh, the only thing, theonly difference between those two is Blanka admitted
to putting it out on his armand that and they had to let they
have to eject them after that,after he ad minute that, they had
to eject them. So that's theonly difference. If he wouldn't have admitted
it, maybe they would have lethim changes the or wash it stands or

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whatever. Oh yeah, that's allI have to say. Much appreciate,
we got it. Thanks Thomas.We got to find out what the protocol
is for the switch of the glove, because I don't think any of us
know the exact letter of the law. And I listen, you can't I
personally, and I understand what Thomasis saying and what people's concern are.
But the Dodger game and the Astrosgame, they didn't call each other and

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say, here's what we're going todo. You guys, make sure you
eject him. Listen now, ifthey want to reprimand an umpire because they
did it wrong or right, we'llfind out. But whatever the ruling on
this, I mean, the letterof the law is why we've seen guys
be able to lose gloves? Isit the amount of or how severe the
sticky stub substance is? And Blanconot. The concern of this isn't the

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ejection and the bullpen did a hellof a job. The concern of this
is and you know, Blanco washeaded for a hope another win, which
would have been great for him.The concern of this is it why didn't
he know the rule? Right?I love the guy for honestly, I
honestly think he was like, damn, I don't you know how that kid
like I did this homework myself.I did. I didn't know. I

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didn't know. We weren't allowed touse cliff notes in seventh grade. Yeah,
it's the same thing. I maybehe didn't know. But why that?
That's my thing? Why Why?Because listen, any coach I've ever
been around, our manager and team, you know the rules as good as
the others do, and it couldcould have slipped your mind. I think

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Blanco was pitching. I honestly thinkhe was had no idea, which I
get, But is anybody informing himon that situation right going out there and
saying it? And did Joe fightfor it? Well, that's a that's
another thing that did you fight for? And you know sometimes you may have
to get ejected in situations like that. And I'm not blaming it on just

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a spot. I'm talking about thewhole, the big picture, the umbrella
part of pitching, coach or whoever? Why why? Knowing? This a
lot of layers to But I'm notgetting caught up in the conspiracy that they're
against the Astros and they love theDodgers. Now, major League Baseball loves
the Dodgers, make no mistake.But I don't believe that there's something different
between the two. And if Thomassaid one admitted it, one didn't that's

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why I got off, Then helldon't. Then you know what, Now
we're encouraging to lie all the time, tell them all the time. But
I don't think Blanco knowingly. You'dhave to be really, really ignorant towards
the rules or what's going on inbaseball to try to fool them right now,
because it's now. It was everyfourth inning, say well, maybe

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they won't check me till the fifthinning, but every time you come off
that mount, they're checking you.So you'd have to be really slick to
try and pull that off or uninformed, and I did. It was an
air that he made. But whatis the level of protocol that says one
gets to switch gloves and one doesn't. I don't think those two called each
other on the phone were ejecting,you're not Hey, that's cool, we're
screwing. The ash is over.I don't believe that, And you're not

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going to be able to convince methat that was the case in this situation.
No. And I also think it'slike we talk about if it's a
foul in the first minute. Itneeds to be a foul in the last
minute of a basketball game if it'ssticky substance on a glove, regardless who
the player is, who the teamis. If that's the protocol, that's
the rule. It needs to bean ejection long as a second uppire validates
it as well. So first guy, then so may maybe if that guy's

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got a bone to pick, right, this other guy could the crew chief.
The crew chief should be the finalsthe guy. Let's say the first
base umpire comes, you're coming offfirst base side checks you out, and
it finds sticky sticky substance a littlebit or a lot, the sin is
still a sin, right, andsome may only need a little sticky to
make it work, and some maynot true whether hey listen, intent,

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intent doesn't matter here because everybody Ididn't know. So if the Dodgers was
who was it again? The Komodo? If he had it, he should
have been ejected right now. Longosgot it, he's got to be ejected.
Has anybody you ever have we everheard anybody come and say, here's
why you get switch clubs. Iwant to know that. I want to
understand those rules. Yeah, DomingoHerman. They literally let him go wash

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his hands. Oh yeah, Sowhat's the difference, you know what I
mean? Well, here's what theconspiracy Yankees, Dodgers of course, money
money, and with Thomas. Iget that one. I don't believe last
night's were related by any stretch.But first guy says it, Let the
crew chief come over. He's theboss. You're to make the executive decision.

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There's sticky substance. You're gone.You go wash your hands. All
you want, you take a dogon scrub brush to him, and and
and and whatever on emory board shipto to scrub it off if you want.
And I don't a cheese greater.You're not coming back in this game.
Yeah, And whatever happens from there, we'll deal. You'll deal with
it. But I don't under Idon't know the level. It can't be

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one sins bigger than the other,heats more than the other. So that's
the part that I don't understand.But once the guy says it, the
crew chief, if he's on secondor behind the plate because he's moved around
in a four game series, threegame series, he comes over, boom
done. You go change your gloveall you want, change it for the
next time. Put a little gloveoil like we used to growing up,

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and get that stuff off there.Scrub it and get your ass out for
the next one. But in thisone, you don't get to pitch in
this one. So what is thelevel of sin and why does it get
going? But we got to getoff. This was against the Astros conspiracy
theory because it wasn't now whether thatumpire had a bone to pick. But
when you say it's the stickiest,he felt in when did we start this
twenty twenty one? It spent twoor three years, right, Yeah,

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so whenever it was implemented. Ifthat's the stickiest and your umpiring crew validates
it, I get it. Butwe don't need forty chefs in the kitchen.
No, let the crew chief makethe final decision and move on and
then you deal with it when it'sdone. Hell, you know what you
ought to do. You really wantto know the truth after you do it.
Do they confiscate the glove? Theydo and keep umpires confiscating. Do

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they send it to Major League Baseballfor testing? Don't know. I would
you think that'd be wise? Yeah, to see what the stuff is really
right if it was rosin water,because we gotta don't send it to Fauci.
Okay, don't send it to himto test, but send it to
somebody else about you know, maybethey do to say what was the substance.
So if you're telling me it wasrosin and water mix, a test

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will tell me with one little scrublike they do in your throat, a
throat culture, give the glove aglove culture, let's find out. Yeah,
So then that that leads. There'sso many different layers for this.
So if they're confiscating gloves now andtesting, but you're allowing other teams to
switch switch gloves, that's what Idon't get, right, So that's that's
the confusion for me. Right,if it would have been switched and it

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would have been the Oakland a's pitcher, I don't think Oakland fans are going
to say there's a conspiracy. No, right, So but I get it,
but I don't like that the levelsof sin or whatever you want to
call it, did we get didwe get to decide which cuss words worse?
Right? And in this case,which stubs customer cuss word? Thank
you? That's still a pick.That's exactly right, and a lot of

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people like to weigh in that stuff, right, So I even crap.
I saw the video of the Dodgers, and I remember last year the Yankees
pitcher got to wash his hands off. I don't understand how it's It shouldn't
be case by case. I feltlike they give, hey, go change
your glove, wash your hands.Matter of fact, go take a shower.
Mom come back. And next itwas weird and I need to know
why. Well I don't need I'dlike to know why. And I think

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that baseball needs no one. Andif you're not asking those questions on the
astros or the dot or whoever youor the opponent to the Dodgers, you
need to ask those questions and writea letter and get an answer. Somebody
out there has got to have it. We got to find what the protocol
is on why you would swept.Maybe a I knows what was that chat,
GPT or whatever, and maybe thatmaybe that will give us the answer

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since they know I'm talking yesterday,right, I'm talking about I can't remember
what it was about out something Iwant to do or something. I'm literally
just talking like we all do.And ten minutes later I'm looking in the
very thing on top of this asa stud on my phone. Yeah,
man, that's it's the weirdest bigbrothers you think, Hey, big brother,

(22:15):
Hey, big brother, you knowabout these You're gonna see the joke
pop up on your phone here.Yeah, well there'll be a nuts.
There'll be some kind of like achocko DS nuts on on on your phone,
a sponsor that about nuts and yougot you got nuts on your phone
anyway, what's yeah, you canyeah the text from you yea what those
nuts? No nuts? Nuts?Yes, yeah, I mean that's all

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that. None of that stuff goesout on my phone. Take it from
a veteran, okay for it.Don't do that seven one three two one
two five seven. I will continueto talk about this Renelle Blanco potential suspension
after the ejection for the sticky stuff. Got a full phone board. We
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Let's get back out to the phonelines talking about Renelle Blanco's suspension. Excuse
me, ejection facing a potential tengame suspension, Ronnie, good morning,

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Good morning, guys. I wasunder the impression that the suspension was an
automatic ten gamer and I know thatthey can appeal suspensions for other things.
Can this be appealed? I hope. I'm more worried about that than I
am the ejection, because if hehas to go to the full ten games,
they're gonna wear out the bullpen andthese guys, the starting pitchers,

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pitch counts are gonna have to goup. They're gonna have to throw one
hundred pitches or more in a game, you know, until this suspension is
over. And you can't tell methat. The Astro organization people, Miller
Spata, they they're I think allthe Major league teams try to push rules

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as far as they can push them. And if Blanco didn't know about it,
you can't tell me the other guysdidn't know about it. I think
they did, and they're just tryingto get away with as much as they
can, which everybody does in life. You know you do it. And
another question I want to know isif it's not good for us to know
what's going on with Speed with SteveSparks, is he got something medical,

(25:56):
personal or whatever because he gets alot of time off and talking about wearing
out the bulletpen, they're going towear out Robert Ford. I, first
off, the last one. First, I get no indication from Steve when
he's on here on he was onhere Monday, energetic as hell. I
think during the season he just getstime off as a KG veteran has earned
it, Yeah, right on roadtrips, and I I think that's part

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of the yeah he's he's got.So I think that's why Ronnie, I
haven't heard anything to the contrary.Steve was an energetic and healthy and I
hope hell, I wouldn't think.I think this is probably scheduled stuff,
don't you. I think so,I would imagine. So, So we
haven't heard anything otherwise, and SteveSparks is so damn good at his job.

(26:42):
I understand why we miss him whenhe's not there for sure, and
we love having him on. Andlike I said, we anticipate he'll be
on here next Monday. So Idon't see. I haven't heard anything to
the contrary. And uh, he'sbeen extremely energetic and awesome with us.
So Ronnie, that's that's as faras we know, and that's just transparent.
I promise you that's a fact fromus. I don't know anything different.

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And Blanco can appeal. Yeah,And here's the deal. If he
appeals right now, ten games istwo starts considering the amount of games they're
playing over the next twenty five twentysix days. It's not like there's three
gays of rest in there. It'sgoing to roll around and he is going
to miss two starts. So ifyou appeal, what you peel down to
eight or seven games, maybe itworks out where you miss one. You're

(27:26):
not going to peel it down tothree, you know, like in the
NFL when you do AH, it'sa four game suspension. You peel down
get three, so they deduct agame or two. I get it,
But that's the key Ronnie, youhit it. It's not the ejection.
You never want that to happen.It's what goes on after this. And
here's my thing. If it isthe sixth stickiest substance that crew that the

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person who found at the umpire isan all four agree on that staff,
on that umpiring crew, you're gonnahard You're gonna be hard pressed to prove
otherwise. So he's gonna get suspended. The question is for how long?
So that on that point right thereabout what the umpire said. So this
is this is a trend with umpires. So part of my notes in this
uh, in this discussion Crew ChiefDan Bellino, when Scherzer was checked and

(28:15):
I believe this was in April oflast year, uh, he said basically,
this was the stickiest that it hasbeen since I've been inspecting hands,
which now goes back to three seasons. Okay, well there you go.
Three. So now they're on theirfourth season if this was this was last
year, so now they're on theirfourth with Blanco, this is season four
with this, So yeah, that'sthere. Maybe it's like when you hear

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maybe that's there, here's what yousay when you hear that that's their calling.
So to go a little further onthe Shureser thing from last year,
he said, quote, the levelof stickiness on his hand was much worse
than it was even in the initialinspection that had taken place two innings prior.
Well, see now that that's that'sthe problem. If it's doing so
you found it. Wa wait aminute, then why didn't you reject him

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the first time? If it wassticky two innings ago, he gotta be
he's gotta be run. Yeah,that's my thing. I want to say.
We talked about this last year.We did, and I'm trying to
say I'm having Once again, itgoes back, what's the level of sin
I don't understand. If you saidit was sticky sticky two innings ago,
why are you allowing him to runback out there? I don't get it

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the two innings later. Yeah,so you're basically telling me it's not the
sticky stuff, it's how extensive thesticky sticky stuff is. So, once
again it goes back to the suerser for do they get do do stars
get special treatment? Yeah? Whenit even comes to this, where's the
letter? Look, you found somethingsticky? Wait, hang on a second,
call the guy over. Let somebodyelse check. Maybe your own fingers

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were a little you know, it'sa huge It's one of those nights where
you know, how you lick yourfingers in this tacky on a ball you're
getting ready to throw, and justwhen you're playing catch. Okay, well
maybe the umpire Okay, maybe yoursis a little sticky. Call somebody else
over, Bam, let him checkit. If you both, Yeah,
there's one. Why do you geta Hall pass? I don't know why

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do you get a Hall pass?It's odd to me, but it doesn't
shock you that the level of consistencywith rules and stuff, and it seems
that every level of every I meanof the pros of every sport that Hall
passes are distributed all the time.We don't have a here's the baseline,
and if it goes above the baseline, you're done here or here's the here's
it. Once you hit this threshold, he's out and you'll deal with the

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If the glove comes back and findsthat there was nothing on his hand or
nothing or nothing on the glove,then then maybe the Empire has to take
a little wrath. It'd be great. We're doing it wrong right, So
accountability I don't know, but thesuspension is a problem considering where they are
right now, and you don't wantto tax. You're going to ask your
starters to go deeper, no doubtabout it. Yeah, let's get to
Clay real quick before we get tobreak Clay. Welcome in. Hey guys,

(30:51):
how y'all do it? Fantastic brother? A couple of a couple of
callers already asked a couple of thequestions I had about order. If they
if they would test it be whenthey get the results, how long would
it take if you were you know, fee appeals that how long is it
going to take before you know theyoverturn and make a ruling. And also
I think if if I mean Blancodidn't protest very much, you know,

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if he wasn't very and I washoping, I was telling my wife watching
the game, I hope a spottedgoes off. You know, if he's
uh, you know, if hethinks it's not you know, maybe there
is something to it, you know, maybe you know, it felt like
it was shouldn't be there. Sowell, he admitted that he thought it,

(31:36):
didn't he Blanco say thank you forthe call. Clay. Didn't he
say something about that. He admittedthat he had the it could have been
a rosin right from his uh hisuh, they crept down into his glove.
Here's one thing for me. Uh, And maybe I'm wrong. Sometimes
I would just like to see alevel of I'm pissed off protecting my player

(32:00):
at some point. I really would. And you know, I think that's
what he's talking about, the fireof No, you know what, it's
okay to be a little bit animated. Yeah, once in a while when
it comes to protecting your players,even for the optics of all of us,
I'd like to see it one time. I don't think you're ever going
to though, No, I don'tthink so. I also I don't think

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in that moment he should have gottossed because I saw a lot of people
say, why are you not gettingthrown out? Why you're not get thrown
out? What inning was that in? Like the fourth got long? I
don't get lost long middle relief tomanage right there. But I also want
to fight for my player a littleouter. Yeah, does that makes sense?
Well, that you don't have tomake it personal, No, just
kind of like it's it's just theit's the optics of that's my guy,

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and I'd rather have me thrown thanhim, right, even though they had
already made the decision, you knowthey're gonna run him. That that's you
got to you got to defend ittill the end of the till the ends
of the earth. But Joe justapproaches a little different. That's I don't
mean yell arge screamer all the time. I guess maybe I come from a
little more like, gosh, Igotta see some emotion out of this one.
You're starting pitcher who's been going good, and now the fact that he's

(33:06):
facing a ten game suspension, thatthat's that's that's two starts. Yeah,
that is two starts, especially whenyou're trying to get back to five hundred
damn right. That dude's been cruisingall season all They won another close game
last night, which they're they're doinglately. They're winning one run games.
That's their third or fourth of theyear now, and it was impressive to
see. Loved it. And youknow, Bregman Homers looks like he's starting

(33:28):
to what five straight hits now thatwere there were extra basor rates before before
what the made it out was ita pop up? I didn't see the
third at bat? Then he struckout and is either third or fourth at
bat the opposite one way or theother. So I uh, they're they're
starting to didn't score a lot ofruns last night. But once again,
you know how I am about gutcheck. Those are gut check. Your

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pitcher gets ejected, you still bullpenhas to come in and do their job
for a bunch of innings. AndVictor Carattini does what he's done all year
long. Be clutch and barrel theball up when it matters, walk off
the guy. Is what an addition, you know, even losing Maldonado.
The truth is the catcher position's beenupgraded. Yeah it has. Other than
the feeling of leadership, the twoguys behind him are far more productive at

(34:13):
the play. There's no question aboutit. All right, let's get to
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Let's start with Miss Carroll, MissCarroll, good morning, good morning,
Good morning, Sean Sells, Mary, good morning, Miss Carroll.
Look we're on our way to fivehundred. I told you y'all gonna believe
Do y'all believe me or not?Because see look here, I am proud

(36:30):
of this team. I told everybodygonna start hitting and they're gonna be on.
They're gonna be unstoppable. I'm tellingy'all like it is now, because
hey, we on the move now. Thank you, miss Carrol. That

(36:53):
was she. She got right toit. She didn't move. They're on
fire, revity, Yeah, gotit going. And I listen, they
are moving now and they got tocontinue to sustain this and win in close
games, creating distance. They're winning. They're winning a lot of different ways
these last you know what, halfa dozen games. And it's a good
sight to see and Bregman's bat heand you know what, we'll get Dana

(37:15):
Brown on Dana Brown specifically said Bregman. When Bregman goes, we'll go Yeah.
And it's happening right now. Yeah, there's no question about I don't
manage to know something about his team. I guess huh absolutely, Michael,
welcome in. What's going on,guys, how y'all doing? We're great?
Man. What's on your mind thismorning? Uh? I got a

(37:36):
question? Couple actually uhlans the Colors. What's the status on him? I
haven't been able to really keep upwith the baseball much this year. I've
been working a ton so so he'suh so, Michael, he actually has
been throwing some light bullpins. Ithink he threw like a ten pitch bullpen

(37:59):
or so off the front slope ofthe mound last week, and then I
believe he's going to be going backto a full length bullpen here in the
next couple of days. We probablywon't see Lacewick Colors Junior until like August,
if we get him back. Okay, that's what I was wondering,
if we were going to get himback, or if we're wasting our money

(38:21):
by keeping him, or you know, well, I mean, well,
Michael, he hasn't pitched since theWorld Series of twenty twenty two, so
you can I mean, you canput your judgment on that one. Yeah,
and Michael Michael comes to this too, of course, of what a
bonus would be to have him back, it would be, but I don't
think I would count on that beingthe reason the Astros get where they want

(38:45):
to go. If it is,it's a great bonus and will help.
I just I would air on theside of conservative on his return. That's
what I would do. Yeah,yeah, definitely. I just I was
just wondering his status. I hadn'theard anything in a way while like where
he stood, Oh my god,what happened. A ghost came out of

(39:09):
nowhere and started talking to us.There was some is somebody possessed on what
has happened? Heard that? Huh? Yeah, that was a trip.
Was a trip. But i'd hopehell who doesn't want him back right as
soon as possible, So we'll seeone, Miss Carroll, great call by

(39:30):
you as well about she told youand here they go on fire, and
let's roll. I told you man, she told you to because you denied
him, you said they sucked.What that's fake news, man, fake
news right there. Miss Carroll's notfake news. So she loves this team
and has supported it all the waythrough. So we'll see where it goes

(39:52):
from here. Good, it's ahell of it. They'll tell you what.
The temple is starting to be pickedup though, and you and I
both know it, and so doesshe, so we'll see. All right,
let's get into the seven a clockhour, seven one three two point
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The Nuggets beat the t Wolves,nixt beat the Pacers in the NBA
Playoffs. Get back out to thephone line where we're talking about joe A
Spotta and the ejection of Renel Blancolast night for the foreign substance seven one

(42:30):
three two point two five seven ninety. Michael, we got you back up
on your phone line. I believeyou have one more question for us.
Yeah, hopefully, I don't know. Yeah, there good time? Did
so could you hear it on yourend? I did. I turned the
radio up after the phone call cutoff, and it sounded like demonic,
like devil a shit? Yeah,man, what do we got going on

(42:52):
down there in Webster? Man?I don't know. I just pulled up
in my apartment. You got offof work, so I don't know.
Maybe I'm a little little out ofit. Well, we appreciate you hanging
out with us this morning, man, I know those night shifts are pretty
crazy. Oh yeah, six tosix, it's rough, man, twelve
hours. Do good on you forworking at hard ass job. Man,
whatever you do. Man, again, thanks for joining us. What else

(43:15):
you got for us? Uh?Actually I wanted to finish on the mccolor's
thing. I'm glad to hear thathe's actually up and throwing again and making
some progress. I believe don't expecthim to be one hundred percent anytime soon,
but I'm glad that he is backup and throwing again. My other
question was why don't they have asecond opinion, like a second umpire check

(43:39):
gloves or hands whenever they suspect stickystuff or whatever. Shouldn't there be a
second opinion instead of just one umpiresaying, oh, well your hands bill
sticky, we're projecting you. Well, I know last night they brought in
the crew the rest of it.Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And
he said that all brought them allin. Now. I don't know if

(44:00):
one can eject or they have tohave a second opinion. I would assume
they do. I would like thecrew chief always to be It's like having
the general manager on a team.You make the decision, you're hired for
that, the crew chief to comeover and say, Okay, you made
the call, let me validate it. And if three other umpires say I
don't feel anything, you can't ejectthe guy. In my opinion, that's

(44:22):
mine. So I would imagine thatyou got four of them bring in another
voice. You don't need them allbut the crew chief to sit there and
say okay. But if they allwant to do it, and maybe they
want all four to agree with itand majority rules, hell, I don't
know. And if it's even yougo with the original, I don't know
the protocol on I ask Dandy Brownif he does, if he understands,
if he knows today, I amgoing to ask him so we can get

(44:44):
an understanding of what makes the sinbigger or not as big. And if
you need a second opinion on thatsame crew or if that umpire last night
just did it because he wanted tomake sure that he was validated. I
don't know, almost like instant likeinstant replay, right, you're but these
guys are gonna come over live andfeel it. So he said it was
a lot of it, So Ithink that it was validated last night for

(45:07):
whatever reason. Okay, yeah,I missed the game last night working,
so I understand, my man.But glad we can help. I appreciate
you guys. Thanks, I appreciateit. Man. Seven one three two
one two five seven ninety. Let'sget out to h H Town Wheelhouse.
What's happening? What is up?Guys? Hey? I just want to

(45:29):
say this has Alex Bregman become theSean Salisbury Show of the Astros lineup right
now. I mean, he's thebest thing going. I mean, just
like you guys much the morning showMan. I'm loving it, guys,
guys, like I'm so pumped aboutBregman. I'm so pumped about these wins.
I mean, the bullpen, theyget their flowers. But I do

(45:51):
have a concern. My concern isyord On Alvarez. Brian, I'd like
to know your thoughts and Sean aswell on yord On Alvarez. Is Bregman
getting hot? You know, yougotta let some guys just have their moments
go through the valley because that's partof baseball, the ups and the downs.
And does Bregman getting hot in otherplayers keep the focus or the pressure

(46:13):
off of your don What do youthink is wrong with him? And then
how are we gonna shuffle this pitchingsituation going forward? Appreciate it, Thank
you very much. Appreciate it,my man. Uh well, first off,
yeah, you know, look atJordon's number, batting average down,
but look, dude, he's stilldestroying some some pitching. And I mean,

(46:36):
what's he got eight or nine homeruns? Now? Can you?
My point is, did we areeight home runs? Rights? Were?
If we're talking is if the guy'sa hack right? I mean I'm not
saying age time did. I don'tmean that, but the expectations for him
if this is slow, which itis for him. You do know at
some point in time he's going toregather a swing just like Bregman does.

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Yeah, you don't, You don't. Really, We're not used to seeing
yord On hit below two seventy fiveand he's sitting two fifty eight right now.
Okay, so so's he's mortal andsometimes he is the thing. Now
he waved a ball so far outsidethe strikes on yesterday on a sweeper,
a curveball. I would say hisat bats last night might be some of
the worst that I've seen. Yeah, they were not good. What it

(47:19):
is, there's there's you know alot of times with him though, Okay,
you'll have a gamer in a batwhere it's like that, that was
not a good at bat. Theydon't last long? Does that make sense?
In his past? And the barhe said is like ridiculously high,
But think about the season he's seven. You know how many guys in baseball
would want that. I would killfor that to have twenty RBIs in forty
games and what does that put youon a pace to drive in eighty which

(47:43):
we know damn well is not goingto be him. But my point is,
is him in another lineup, You'relike the Oakland A's are craving even
though they're hitting the ball. Imean they're scoring runs and you know for
them, But you look about himand any other lineup, and yes,
we are not used to seeing himwatch three pitches right down the strike zone,

(48:04):
swinging a pitch for you know,four or five inches outside the strike
zone. And he was even frustrated. So the frustrating is there. And
eah Town makes a great point.I think it's only gonna help and allow
Jordan to get into his mode andget into his rhythm, and which he
will. I just hope that there'snothing lingering that's bothering him right now,
the mental part, in the mentalgrind that goes with hitting, of course,

(48:24):
but I mean physically that he's onehundred percent good to go. I
hope could be time for just aday off maybe and maybe right so I
just and he you know, Htownmakes a good point, is is we're
just so not used to seeing ityet. Proving your mortal and still having
eight home runs and twenty RBIs isgoing to you know, ends up making

(48:46):
you have so so at this rate, he's only going to hit thirty two
home runs and driving eighty plus runs. Yes, I get my point.
Yeah, people so players would killfor that. I honestly, while I'm
concerned, I'm not. I wasmore concerned about Bregman because Bregman was doing
stuff that was so that there wasno power or pop at all in his

(49:06):
bat. Jord On eight, Bregmanhad one, and now look he's got
three home runs in two days,and now, well it's Bregman doing Bregman
things and it's good to watch.So h down, hell of a point.
Thank you for the compliment on theshow. We appreciate you chiming in.
But I think that it just ityord On to me, if he's
healthy, he'll stumble into one ninetyfive to one hundred RBIs and thirty five

(49:29):
home runs. Yeah, it's agood problem to have that you can hit
thirty plus home runs and start offyour first forty games. While we're setting
here saying what the hell's wrong withSuperman? Right? Superman? You know
the blue and red flying around inthe blue and red suit every now and
then, the Cape needs a dayoff, and maybe it does. It
might be time for him to havea day If Tucker got one, al
tuove, I think Jordon needs tomaybe get a day off, and he's

(49:52):
gonna, Like I said, Ipity the fool that has to deal with
him when he is hot. Yeah, because you know at some point it's
gonna happen. I can guarantee it. Yeah, let's get to Brandon real
quick before it gets that stake out. Brandon. Good morning, Good morning,
morning, John, Good morning.How are you, sir? I'm
well, thank you. It's onyour mind. I did say that.

(50:14):
But Renelle Blanco getting kicked out ofthe game, Yeah, unfortunate. Huh
what was your first thought? Iwas not happy with it. Yeah,
I would imagine you and a wholehost of others. I'm with you,
my man. But to win atwo to one game's got to make you
happy. To still find a wayto win when they went through a little
adversity is pretty cool. Huh.Hey, yeah, I met. I

(50:37):
will watch it rightter today. Thereyou go, So we're not going to
ruin it for you and tell youhow how won Victor Kartine got the base
it. No, I'm kidding yougo watch it. I think you'll enjoy
the X rating win. It wasimpressive and they had to win a run
a one run game and they're startingto prove that they can do that.
So it was a good one,my man. And you enjoy it.
And whatever video games you're playing today, you knock them out and go win

(51:00):
too, my man. We alwayslove hearing it. Tell us about it.
I'm trying, Brandon, Brandon,what video games do you play?
Large game? Okay? Sports games? Yeah? Yeah? What's your favorite
one right now? The MLB twentyfour? Yeah? There you go?
All right? So what player doyou have to have on your roster?

(51:21):
I mean, can you do now? I don't know much about the Can
you mix, mix and match rosterslike an All star game? I can
go back to the now, who'syour favorite player in baseball? There you
go? Well you're getting four homewhat three home runs in the last what
we are? Now? What's afour home I'm losing my mind. That's

(51:43):
three three in the last three orthree in the last four games? Is
that right? Does that makes sense? And five extra went five straight extra?
Basis? All right? Well,you got your your guys, your
guys, Brandon, We appreciate yourbrother. Enjoy it in MLB twenty four.
I like it playing a lot ofradio. Your favorite player? There
you go. You ever get onthe sticks. No used to them when

(52:05):
I had kids, because they knowthey played it. I didn't play it,
but i'd play with them, tellthem I could whip them in hockey
and baseball. And I like toplay FIFA, and I didn't play.
I rarely played football, and Ithink football school you could actually learn to
read coverage now the way they've doneit, it's crazy, the way they
got guys dropp into their zone coverageand cover two. I think it's pretty
awesome. I wasn't real like aregular when my kids were there when they

(52:27):
were young. Yeah, we playedbecause all their buddies were there. But
dude, I haven't played a videogame. I like arcade games, you
know, old school arcade gas toan arcade and I like it. And
I'm going to put a new systemin my house. And when people come
over and want to play, likewhen we're watching there and you guys want
to compete at the house, that'sfine. I just don't play them.
The changes and all this stuff.Hell moving those thumbs, brother, you

(52:49):
got you gotta get rolling. Uh. I also don't want to play them
because, like I don't want toget the addicted part where it's seven hours
of by day are spent. Wonderif I'm going to hit it in the
above the monster in Fedal Yeah so, but I I listen, they're giving
scholarships away from video game plays,so have had it? Okay, if
that's what you're gonna do. Ijust, I just I'd rather be out

(53:10):
playing regular golf than video games.That makes sense. Oh yeah, there
you go. Something about being onthe sticks though, Man, you know
what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, when I say grab a stick,
it's to me, pull the driverout and let your big dog eat.
It's not getting on the control orthat's a cigar, yeah, meaning there.
So I don't but I don't know. Like when you mentioned all these
games like that. Now I knowthe names of them, but I've never

(53:35):
played what's uh what gave me thebiggest game ever? Again? What's that
called? The fighting? The nonsports game Fortnite? That yeah? Or
Call of Duty? Yeah, oneof those two now, Cody, because
my kids played a lot and theyloved that. They're get in the headset
with their buddies. I've never playedthe first one what's it called again?
Fortnite? In my life? No? Ever, I haven't either when it

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when it becomes having to program acomputer like a computer programmer to play a
video game. You're out, thankyou and good night. I play on
the PS five and there you go. I don't play on PC. There
you go. I'm using that mouse. Those dudes are on a different level.
Man. Always got to click themouse twice. You got to double
click your mouse. Man, everybodyknows that. All right, let's get
to the steak out next a SportsTalk seven eighty. How about diard Man

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back to the Shawn Salisbury Show.All right, Sean, what are you
hearing out there now? The SalsburyTeakouts, salsif takeout on the Seawan Salisbury
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(54:53):
Sean Brown and Tripley here with youon Sports Talk seven eighty and also listen
to us on the free iHeartRadio app, Astros and the Athletics. Game three
of the series tonight, seven toten is the first pitch six o'clock on
Deck Show right here on seven nineyear home Frastals Baseball. Dan Brown going
to join the show at nine thirtythis morning. Nuggets be the t Wolves,
Nicks beat the Pacers in the NBAplayoffs seven one three, two one

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two five seven ninety the number tojoin. Let's get out to the phone
lines. Don welcome in. Heyman, how you doing? Hey?
There was two things that happened lastnight. There was an unusual one which
was the toro going back to firstbase, and then the powder. So
I'll go to the powder on thesecond one, toro going back to first
base. I had a friend ofmine calling me him and said, hey,

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he would have automatically been out anyway, and I said, no,
he wasn't because the word is notinterfering. The word would be going back
to first base would be in uhintentionally interfering. So you know you have
to have that, you know,attorney word in there. So no,
you have nothing but a train record. First, if Singleton would have dropped
that ball, you had nothing therebecause nobody did anything wrong. Now here's

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the thing. The Astros are undera microscope right now, big time,
no matter what they do. Theygot cameras from that Oakland dugout all the
way to the Astrals dugout, andthey're just watching these guys. I mean
there, I mean it's a bird'seye view. And from what a friend
of mine said was that when Blancocame out of the dugout, you know,
he sweat so much. I mean, it's just looked like you just

(56:20):
walked out of a swimming pool.But he swept so much that he dried
his hand off with a towel,as what was said, and then he
grabbed a rosin bag. You cannotgo directly to a rosin bag with your
non pitching hand. If you do, you have to wipe it off.
If you don't wipe it off,and if you stick your hand inside your
glove, that's the illegal substance thatcan be playing on the ball. You

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can put the rosin bag on yourpitching hand, take your hand out,
and then rub the baseball up withthat. But that stupid rule about going
directly to your non pitching hand isstupid, and they got to change that
up because they do it anyway.They just put it on their pitching hand
first. So was there in theglove, Yes, there was. There
was rosin and in the glove itwas fresh powder. It was you know,

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hey, guys, sorry, youknow he's probably going to get ten
games out of this thing too,so it could be a problem there coming
down the pipe. So I justwant to let you guys know about that.
All that sweat in the hand.Yeah, but this is what we
had said that the opposite hand,and it's obvious with the sweat that goes
down and pours off your forearm andinto your palm. And if there's you

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know, if the if there's rosininside that glove, of course it's going
to form into sticky substance. Idon't think that. I don't think Blanco
did it on purpose, But ifyou didn't know the rule, everybody on
the roster needs to, especially onthe pitching staff. Now it's got to
be revisited by that team, whetherwe like the rule or not, and

(57:51):
some of us may hate it.The bottom line, the rules in place,
I don't believe. Well, Ithink that there is always focused on
pitchers and maybe the astros that sensitive. I don't think there's a conspiracy against
the astros to treat them any differentwhen it comes to the rosin and what's
inside of glove and sticky stuff thanthere is anybody in Chicago, Pittsburgh,
Boston or Oakland. I just don'tBut he makes a good point. Rosin

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and ros is sweat and rosin equalchance to get sticky if it's inside the
glove and you don't know it,because he would be a fool coming off
there every day and then every inningand thinking, oh, I think I'll
fool him this time. That didn'thappen, not gonna happen, right,
Yeah, I think it was accident. But accident, you listen, you
still gotta pay for it, andhe's gonna get a suspension. The question

(58:35):
is will an appeal take it downa game or two? That's two starts
missed. Yeah, it is.It's gonna be big. It's doctor Roger.
Good morning, Roger. Hey,good morning guys. Yeah, that
guy asked you some questions I hadI had about that about uh, the
rosin bag thing. But my questionto you guys is who is who does
the fall under? Does it fallunder the pitching coach or is bought both

(58:58):
of them? That's the fire.Just to make sure these guys are,
you know, playing by the rules, and uh, you know, maybe
Ronel Blanco had a question or youknow how he didn't know about it like
he like he told the rest Andhow long is it gonna take to examine
that glove and find the results ofwhat they find and h does that have

(59:20):
any kind of bearing on that tengame suspension? And that's that's all I
had. Man, I just Ijust don't want to just train to stop
rolling. You know, we wewe're at a nice pace and just just
would be you know, would suckto have something like this, you know,
you know, you know, kindof just bring it back down,
you know, it just it justfeels like we're humming off pretty good,

(59:43):
and I would hate to have HunterBrown. I'm gonna take that spot,
but it looks like that's what's gonnahave to happen, and maybe he's in
a better mindset. That's all Ihave. Guys, would go, Thanks
Roger, I appreciate you. Ican tell you this to me, well,
it always starts at the top ifyou're talking about in b and informed,
if your pitching staff knows, Myquestion is how many of them didn't

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know. I'm curious and I listen. Players should always take responsibility when you
know it's directly it hits you,you would always you should always if you
don't know, ask But I alsothink it's the coach down to the pitching
coaches down to you know, theplayer. You have to make sure that
they're informed. You just do.But I also don't think that any manager

(01:00:28):
in baseball, nor would I,every time they go out there before every
start, hey, let me remindyou can't put rosin and well, at
some point in time, you gotto understand we told you here's the rule.
If it hasn't been addressed, itwill be now. But that's two
starts in ten games that you don'twant to lose what has been the eight
year staff this year, and Ithink at the time he had given up

(01:00:51):
four hits, no runs, struckout for maybe walked one, and he
was a base hit away from havingan immaculate inning where he went bingo bangaled
bongo nine straight times. So he'sdoing some good things and it would be
a bummer step back because you don'twant to let him lose his confidence that
he's rolling with and allows something likethis that, while minor, becomes major

(01:01:14):
for the picture because you're losing twostarts and I'm assuming is that two starts
without pay? Is that ten gameswithout pay? Because the games matter,
That's what I don't I don't knowif if that part of an ejection or
a suspension is suspension with or withoutpay, it's a lot of money,
especially for a guy who has hittwenty five million dollar jackpot. That that's

(01:01:37):
some coin. Now, So Idon't know. My gut tells me it's
that they're still getting paid, butI might be wrong. I'm gonna double
check that. Yeah, well we'lllook into it. Yeah, Roger makes
a good point. You don't wantto lose this. Some call it momentum.
You know how I feel about momentum. It's momentum until somebody smacks you
right in your face. It isthe confidence that he's had, the he

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has had this year and growing everystart. It seems. It's just a
bummer to have what appears to bean accidental thing trying to do a ten
game suspension. But that's a rule, and whether we like it or not,
you gotta follow it. Let's see, I'm not see anything about not
or without pay. Yeah, I'massuming it's suspension in this case with pay,
but we may be wrong if itis without pays. That's that's a

(01:02:22):
lot of money. I mean,it's all relative to your salary, but
that can be some money, right, Yeah, so game checks, Yeah,
so whatever that might be. Hopefullyit's with pay, but the suspension.
But regardless, that's two starts.So you're gonna have to find somebody
else to fill your ace. Thisyear is void. That's gonna be two
starts yep, ten games. Yeah, so it's a hefty suspension when the

(01:02:45):
aswer you're trying to get back tofive hundre and Roger, I don't know
how long it's gonna take. Ican't imagine we're not going to know within
a week, all right, right, I can't imagine you're not going to
know sooner than later. That hasto be urgent and quickness and brevity so
you can as a team. Youowe it to the team for them to
be able to set. Do yougot to bring somebody up? Do you
gotta move somebody around? You gotta? I don't think they'll set on their

(01:03:07):
hands and making a decision on this. Yeah. Yeah, we'll have to
wait and see what's what will transpirewith the appeal with Renel Blanco. Renel
Blanco spoke about the foreign substance afterthe game. We got the audio,
we'll here and discuss next The ShawnSalisbury Show continued, We're not odd,

(01:03:28):
We're even doug. Let's hear fromRenel Blanco on this ejection, he was
asked what he was told for hisejection. What's the reason. This is
Renel Blanco through a translator. Theyhad them a whole out the down.

(01:03:53):
Yeah, they told me that itsome just sticky above des reason. They
told me why I couldn't continue fishingwith the club. Something sticky in the
glove. And you can't continue topitch with some sticky in your glove.
That's pretty simple. So I wonderwhat they told Yakamoto over for the Dodgers.
There's some sticky in your glove,but go get a second one.

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You got an extra glove in yourlocker room? Oh you do? Okay,
go ahead. We got to getyour ratings. It's it's international ratings
we need. If not borrow Tonie, he's not pitching. Yeah yeah.
And actually, while while you godown there and talk to Otani, can
you ask him what I should doabout my parlay? Yeah? Should I
take the over under in the Dodgergame? Yeah? Oh that's good.

(01:04:34):
That's funny, man, that's funny. Well that's where no Blanco is talking
about. It's that was pretty simple. Well, you got sticky stuff for
your glove, and you can't continueto pitch with sticky stuff in your glove.
Okay, cool, have a greatone. Yeah, that's a I
like Blanco's explanation. I just don'tsee I don't. I don't see him

(01:04:55):
doing it on purpose. I don'teither. Uh. And then Joe A
spot of the Skipper gave his explanationfor the ejection, the same explanations that
that you know, you could justkind of see it inside his glove.
The you know, the kind ofthe white powder, you know, so
you know it's it sucks because he'sthrowing the bowl well and you know,

(01:05:20):
but you know, I I Ibelieve I saw kind of the substance in
there, and you know, thestickiness to it, so you know that
was it. Joe. Joe eyeballedit. He did. He saw the
sticky substance in there and said,I mean, if you see, if
you're there, if you could seeit, not just feel it sums up

(01:05:40):
but everything. You and I bothlooked at and said, you don't have
the white powder there? We boththe char declark, ain't nobody's doing blow
before the game? There you goduring the game, A little powder in
there? There you go, No, but little rosin little sweat equal sticky
stuff. You can see it's prettyif you if you listen to looking at
me when you say sticky stuff youdid to me, no, id you.

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We were thirty seconds into the showand you laid sticky down. Damn
right, Uh, it's pretty simple. And think about a Spota sticky stuff.
No, think about a Spota andRonell I mean they, I mean
it was pretty simplified for them,right, Yeah, I saw it.
It was sticky. It sucks,and Blanco saying they said, I can't

(01:06:24):
pitch. They saw there's sticky stuffin you glove, and you can't pitch
with sticky stuff in your glove.So in that so apparently Dodgers didn't have
sticky stuff in Yeah, somebody's gonnatell us, I imagine. So if
he didn't have sticky stuff, whythey make him switch his glove And why
couldn't Renel just switch his glove?Well, he had the Wilson A two
thousand, that's true. Yeah,and one of Yakamoto had the heart of

(01:06:44):
the hide in the in the inthe locker room in the clubhouse. Make
the switch. Yeah, change inendorsements right now? Yeah, Yeah,
maybe he went in there. Maybemaybe Yakamoto is uh Otani's new bet guy,
and the umpires are in on ittoo, and they had to let
him go into the clubhouse and makea uh a quick addition to his parlay.
I don't know, man, Soyou think he had to call his
bookie. He probably did. Heydude, you got to have a fall.

(01:07:06):
Yeah, I got to have afall. Good. Hey dude,
Hey man, I'm rolling right now. Hey they call my sticky substance,
but I'm cruising. I'm rolling rightnow. Oh Tani wants to put two
hundred on the Dodgers. That wouldbe two hundred grand. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, not two hundred. No, no, no, we're not
peasants around here, mere minions ontwo hundred. You got to go two
hundred gees? So as spot onhim? What? Literally? You know

(01:07:30):
what I'm saying? Yeah? Whatdid he say? So? In in
this situation where the umpires are meetingthe whole crew looking at his glove hand
everything, Joe spot us out theregetting explanations and things like that, would
you have wanted him to get tossedin that moment? No? I don't.

(01:07:51):
You're not getting tossed for something.First of all, why would I
get tossed for something I actually sawand if they if the umps were right.
I'm not getting tossed for the umpsbeing right. I'm not just doing
it for the visual of for gettingtossed and fined or whatever you get when
the money, when you get tossedout of a game just because I want

(01:08:12):
fancy, I got tossed, butI was wrong. I got tossed because
now there's a time and a placeyou're getting your ass kicked you want.
You're tired and your boot team needsa little boost. I get it.
It's sticky. They told him that, you see the substance. There's no
reason to get run on an umpire'sproper call. But what I think what
people more than getting run, Ithink what they'd like is maybe a little

(01:08:36):
more animation. Does that make sense? And I get that. I don't
think that that's Joe's personality from myvantage point, I don't know, but
I have seen if you're looking forlife with the party energy, I would
probably say in forty games, that'snot where you're going now. He may
be laughing and having a blast inthe dugout with the fellas, but I

(01:08:58):
don't think he's like that. It'slike, I don't know, did Wayne
Gretzky ever get you know, ina fight on the ice? You know,
when Gretzk, I mean you letthe other guys do it for him.
I don't think that Joe's personality isto be outlantish. Now. I
didn't like when he got ejected thatway. I would have liked to see
more and a more fight in it. But yelling and screaming doesn't necessarily mean

(01:09:20):
it's right. But getting ejected no, I think that for the fans vanished
point, they're looking for more animationtowards to defend your player. But what
are you defending if it's blatant thatit's there. You're just getting kicked out
because people want you to get kickedout. I mean, why would you
want to get run You're watching,you're managing your team. It's only the
fourth inning. Why would you wantto get run animated? You know,

(01:09:41):
be a little more animated. Yes, but I don't think you have to
get run, especially now that wehear that he saw the substance. He
said it in his own eyes,saw it. You could see the white
powder. Okay, then you fightfor your player, get an explanation and
move forward. Easier to do thatway than somebody missing a strike by four
inch and it costs you in abat and runners are the bases are loaded,

(01:10:02):
and then that's the final out andthe rump's been making poor calls all
the time, and then you popout of the dugout steps and you go
let them have it. Yeah,there's a difference. Yeah, so I
have. Chandler Rome wrote an articlelast night in regards to this sticky substance,
and there's some interesting comments from RenelBlanco in regards to what he told

(01:10:24):
the umpires when they were checking hisglove sho should they have checked his hands?
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talking about Renelle Blanco being ejected fora foreign substance on his hands or excuse
me, on his glove. Onething he spoke about last night after the
game. He said what I toldhim was meaning Blanco to the umpire,

(01:12:35):
if you found something sticky in myglove, you should also check my hand
because it should also be in myhand. But he didn't end quote.
Umpire didn't even check the hand.They just saw it in the glove in
the heave ho but did not checkhis hands. But my thing is how
to get in the glove if itwasn't because you think somebody else put it

(01:12:58):
in there, to your somebody elsesabotage, that's my thing. If it's
in the glove, what if itwas on the hand and not in the
glove, what do I mean?Well, you'd think it would automatically transfer
if there's pressure in both. Butif it's in the glove. My thought
process on their side would be,well, it's easier to hide in there
if it was you were doing itillegal, which he wasn't. I can't

(01:13:20):
buy that for a second. Sothat he was doing it illegal, it's
just an unfortunate circumstance. But thatunfortunate circumstance is going to get your ten
game suspension and miss two starts,which is more important than the suspension itself.
And we got to see the bullpintest and then win a two to
one game at extra innings and Krotenedo what he's doing all year long,
come through somehow in the clutch.So while there's negative, there was some

(01:13:42):
positive found in it. And BregmannHomer's again, so I believe it was
either three two. I'll watch.I can't remember it's two two or three
two, but he had two strikes. A matter of fact, I think
it started out oh two and thenhe pumped it into the seats for a
home run. So I uh,for me, if it's in the glove
or on the hand, either wayyou're responsible for it. And that's just

(01:14:06):
the way it works. Yeah,excuse me. Obviously, you can't have
it in the glove, can't haveit on your non pitching hand. And
also a little further on the suspension, major League Baseball will suspend players call
with any foreign substance for ten dayswith pay. There you go, just
like we said. I said,I don't believe they're missing pay, so

(01:14:27):
they get paid. I'm sure they'llbe a fine as well. Oh yeah,
I think that goes part and parcelto it. But with pay is
then you're not I mean, youget the suspension, especially when it becomes
a a you know, one ofthose decisions that that it is a the
umpires are looking at it. It'snot like it's you you know, went

(01:14:48):
in and tested somebody's urine. It'sjust a you know, you're you're you're
making decisions based on how you feel. As an umpire. Well I'm feeling
something different. So to find aguy for that, you got to take
that out of it and not findthem, but to find him big pay
or doc without pay. On thesuspension, that's fair. Two starts is

(01:15:08):
enough and ten games is you knowa lot of games. You don't want
to dock their pay on this one, especially since it was accidental and where
the intent was. And I don'tthink you can look at Ronell blancole right
now and say, now, ifthere was a history of it with the
player, then you got to looklong and hard at it, right.
Yeah, but it's the first timeoffender, and so I think you got
to be fair. But with paysfair, I'm okay with that. Seven

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one, three, two five sevenninety sheena, Good morning, Hi,
good and learning. So yeah,great game last night. Otherwise, really
seeing the bullpen tested when it camedown to the end of the game,
it's like, well, if wedo lose this, it's not gonna be
because of our pitching. Oddly enough, it's going to be because of the
defense or the offense. But twothings I want to make a point on.

(01:15:55):
One with the suspension ten game suspension. Now, I can't remember all
the rules with timing during regular seasonbecause I know they're a little different during
the postseason of when the appeal hasto be submitted and how long after that
they have to review. Because it'dbe nice if he could try a hold
off on the appeal once it's announceduntil right before his next start and then
until the review happens. He youknow, he'd actually get to make that

(01:16:17):
next start because they won't be ableto enforce it, and try, since
we're on this twenty nine games orout of thirty days, they try to
stretch that as long as possible,maybe get ur Kdie back before he has
to start serving that ten games.It's a good job. I'm just not
sure all the timing. She andA yeah, and we're not exactly sure
how long this decision. You know, the final part of this is going

(01:16:40):
to come down. Would you ratherhave it suspension on the easy part of
the schedule. When we say easy, you know that that depends on where
you're coming from. I mean,if you're not playing well, then nothing's
easy. But they're they're getting better. Would you rather have it Oakland Angels?
Or would you rather have it ifthey were running into it more different
like the schedule they had before thisseries this ten game run started? Or

(01:17:04):
would you rather have a quicker hereso we get him back for a tougher
stretch even though it's twenty nine gamesin thirty days or whatever that was thirty
and thirty one? Would you ratherhave it? You know? You know
what I'm saying, So I'm withyou. I'm also thinking of getting her
Kadie back, right get her Katieback, and then you know where we're
not half an attacked as much whereit allows you to keep arms in the

(01:17:25):
bullpen fresh, Yeah, exactly.I mean I'm already worried about Seth Martinez
getting dead armed by All Star breaks. So the other thing, which and
you touched on this after I wasalready on hold one things I meant to
ask about, you know, Espata. I definitely don't want to see him
thrown out over this, but I'dlike to see more passion. They checked,

(01:17:46):
I think the umpire said, theychecked Ronelle in the first inning,
and then they checked him again inthe fourth. It's Houston, it's hot.
You can see the sweat dripping offRonell. He's a you know,
he perspires quite a bit. Yeah. Getting that area of the glove they're
looking at is right where the palmgoes, so it's going to be sweaty.
You get some rosin over there,and you know, I can see

(01:18:08):
how this is definitely accidental. I'dlike to see, you know, Ronelle's
trying to plead his case. I'dlike to see a little more fire out
of Espata. And I'm not completelysure I agree with how he did the
postgame interview of you know, well, yeah I saw it. You know,
it's like either don't say you sawit and just be like, you
know, it's unfortunate. You know, I don't believe he did it on

(01:18:29):
purpose, try to. He justdidn't seem to defend his team at all.
I mean, he just kind ofrolled with it. I don't know
if you know the term. It'sa literary term milk toast that comes from
like the twenties thirties. Yeah.Oh, I feel like that's a spata.
I feel like he's a milk tottoast here. Yes, milk baby.
You never see a lot of movementand exciting from it, just a

(01:18:53):
way. Yes, we were ata game a few weeks ago, a
couple of weeks ago, and therewas a balk and I was listening to
the radio. Wall is at thegame and they're like, yeah, he
wanted an explanation. They wouldn't giveit to him. But he took like
a step out of the dugout.He like, I think one step was
still in the dugout. It's like, get out there, figure out what
happened. Why wasn't a book happened? Here? Demand the explanation? So

(01:19:15):
you can tell your team, andyou could tell your picture, or you
can tell well, why it happened. You'd like to know, right,
yeah, High closed Doors be like, no, yeah, you got caught.
You might have not done it onpurpose, but you got caught and
you're gonna get punished. But outin the media, out in front of
the fans, defend your team,And how do you do this? You
know, how do you defend nowon if you want to appeal a suspension,

(01:19:38):
how do you defend it after you'veadmitted that it was wrong? Do
you know what I'm say coming outand saying, well, yeah, I
saw it and I looked in thathabit, It's like, eh, I
don't know, man. I mean, I know you don't want to lie,
but it's okay to embellish a littlebit when you're the manager to protect
your team. That's part. That'spart of what you do. So that's
what I said. I think Idon't want him inject it for that,
but I think the visual passion issomething you're craving a little more now.

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Maybe the players behind Closed Door seeit, but I think there's this perception
from all of us that it's justthat at times it feels a little too
casual and too meek or submissive,just backing off and letting those guys run
the show, meaning the umpires orthe other team. I get it.
It doesn't make you a good orbad manager, but I'm on your side.
I'd like to see a little moreemotion without being without being a buffoon,

(01:20:26):
right, does that make sense?Yes? Yes, exactly same here.
I on board. Great, greatstuff, Thanks Sheen. I appreciate
it, and i'd like to youknow, you know who continues to concern
me, Ryan Presley. Yeah,he's too good for this, not for
baseball, but too good to struggle. Like he's struggling. When do they
end? Ryan Presley, Ryan Stressleyand they and they you know. And

(01:20:50):
Hater pitched out of some stressful situationlast night as well, and that was
good. I love winning these typeof games, especially when you went through
adversity to get it. Tribute tothe bullpen and carotene, some clutch hitting
happening and getting some really good bullpens. But you need those arms in the
long haul. Oh yeah, especiallyif you're about to lose Renel Blanco.

(01:21:10):
That that suspension should be announced today, and I would assume when Renel Blanco
gets his suspension, he will ofmeediate do you? But how do you
appeal when both of you admitted yourthat they're when you said that they probably
use with the manager saying that howdo you, I mean you'll appeal?
It would well, I would saythat he's probably going to use the fact

(01:21:30):
that that hey handshake my hand.And I'm watching a video of of one
of the umpires checking Blanco's glove.It's what I want to talk about at
our own. Adam Wexer posted thevideo on his Twitter at Adam J.
Wexer, So if you want toget online and check that out. I
don't know. It's just a littleinteresting to me to where they're actually checking
for this quote unquote sticky stuff inhis glove. I don't know. And

(01:21:53):
I've also got the the RPMs thespin rates on his his pitches in the
first three innings, which shows thatthere's no advantage to using the sticky stuff
either way. You can't have iton your non pitch. The rule.
It's a rule, but also itgoes into like that why why is it
case by case across the league?It seems like why is that uniformity.

(01:22:13):
Yeah, exactly, I'm with you. Let's seven one three, two two
five seven. I will also getto your calls to talk about this ejection.
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longtime friend Shawn Salisbury, brianl Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sean
Salisbury Show. Brought in other umpiresand they decided to eject Blanco. He's
going to face a ten game suspension. He did say that he will appeal
seven one three two one two fiveseven nine. He got a lot of

(01:25:09):
people that want to get in allthis discussion. Let's start with Steven Huffman.
Steve, good morning. Well,you know what, baseball has got
a black guy right now. Youknow what, they're the ones that introduce
the foreign substance, and every goddang ballpark with a with a rosin bag
sitting on the picture's mound. Well, they want the guy to do with
it, to stare at it.I mean he's sweating profusely. Every picture

(01:25:31):
is assumed that they can pick itup and use it. So if there
is a Rosin from the Rosin bag, and I would just about be willing
to bet my life on this thatthat's what it is, then they need
to just quietly say sorry, wescrewed up and put him back on the
roster because this is this is ridiculous. And Joey Spota, I'm really surprised

(01:25:57):
he didn't go out there and raisethat issue with them. Thank you,
Steve. Let's keep it rolling.Seven one three seven. Hinty Randall,
you're up. Good morning, Hey, good morning guys. I think that
if he gets suspended, it maybe a three to a five game suspension
because the Major League Baseball is notgonna own up to their mistake, so

(01:26:18):
they may you know, be neutralabout it. And man, I'm glad
to see my guy Bregman back.You know, I always had confidence that
he would bounce back, and Ithink that Bregman is gonna stay hot because
he has great confidence. He alwayshave displayed and demonstrate heart. So like

(01:26:39):
you know, Dana Brown said thatwhen if Bregman gets started, the team
will gets started, because I thinkthat Bregman is the leader of that team.
Yeah, Randall, rand let meask you a question though, and
you're right, and and you've heardDana Brown say when Bregman goes, we
go. Well, let me backup when you say you think it's gonna
be five games. Because Major LeagueBaseball admitting their mistake, what must think

(01:27:00):
is that, well, if itis a mistake, and they realized,
because see they're gonna have to investigatetheir own self too, just as well
as they investigated him. So theywant to make sure. You know,
it's just like when I had astroke. They send me in and I
had to go in and do anMRI because I was having headaches, and
then they said the MRI I wassuspicious, and then they did a cat

(01:27:23):
scan and the cat scan come backsaying I had a stroke. So you
know, you have to like thoseguys went out to the mound, those
umpires, they had a discussion andmaybe they thought they were suspicious about it
before they made their decision. Soyou know what they said, though,
it's more substance, more sticky substance. Than they've ever seen in a glove

(01:27:45):
since this started. They started,That's my point. So I think we'd
be awful lucky at it. AndI don't know what they're gonna If he's
guilty, he's gonna get the tin. There you go. You know a
lot of these guys come out here, man. You know, Uh,
that's that's not only happening on theAstros team. That's that's happening all around
the league. Yep, no doubt. And for Presley, I think Presley

(01:28:08):
tries a little too hard sometimes becausehe Swiss refusely. He can come out
there and man, he throw twoor three pitches and he's dressed in sweat.
You know. I don't know ifit's he's adrenaline or what, but
he's a good pitcher. I thinkhe just just just should come out and
and not try so hard and justplay his game. But I'm glad to

(01:28:29):
see Bregman back. You know,that's that's my guy. He's my favorite
Astro. He got that swag andI hope you keep it up. Thank
you guy, Thanks d Yeah,Bregman's starting to heat up, which you
know, the organization obviously constantly itmoves back up into the five hole.
Now, so he's gone two,three, four, five and six six,
Yeah, and the last what fiveor six games? Yeah, So

(01:28:50):
there you go. And it's agood sight to see because if that is
the case, and this team goesas Bregman goes, then things are going
to turn out pretty well if thisstreet continues. Yeah, need him to
continue to swing it well, Scott, good morning. Hey guys. Hey,
just on Blanco, seems so arbitrarythat there's just a judgment call.

(01:29:13):
They stick their hand in the glove, They don't touch his hands. Is
there any way that I mean,it seems like you could have a swab
or something that says, yeah it'spine tar, it spit, it's what
you know. It just seems soarbitrary that oh yeah, he's he's out.
Sorry, I mean, it justseems crazy. So Breggy's on fire.
Yeah what do you say? Iwas gonna say, do you find

(01:29:35):
it odd though that Joe was spotI also came out said I saw the
white substance in his glove. OhI didn't hear that, but yeah,
well, you know, it soundssounds strange, but like I'm with you,
it doesn't seem like Blanco is thepersonality to do that, but who
knows. Hey also wanted to givea shout out to the guys at Classic

(01:29:55):
Elite GMC driving my new at four. I went in there, told Jeff
by Brian set me in, tookgreat care of me, loved the truck.
Congratulations like it love Scott, thankyou. I appreciate it for you,
sir, thank you. Let's talkto Roger. Roger, welcome in,
good morning, thirst Uh. Igo to the games quite often and

(01:30:20):
I see the picture get checked.Some get checked when they come in.
Some get checked at the end ofthe pass any right, So like when
Presley or Hater come in from thebullpen, they get checked out in the
outfil by the umpire, right,just like this one. He was coming
out of the dugout getting checked onhis way to the mouth. So my

(01:30:43):
question is this is if a pitcherwho hasn't pissed in a game yet comes
from the bullpen and they check himand say you have a sticky substance in
your club, You're ejected. Hehasn't even started yet. So so my
question is this also is if anumpire has that discretion, and this is

(01:31:05):
before he had pitched any in thatinning, there's something in your glove,
get a new glove, then comeback out. But if there's something when
they check them after the half hittingand there's something in that glove, bit
he can get injected and serve theycan't get suspension. And five what are
your thoughts on that? Thank you, Roger we Uh getting ready to go

(01:31:29):
to break and we can discuss thatwhen we get back. I just think
Sean, when it comes to Rosinbeing on the mound, it's right there.
It's been there in baseball for forever. When it mixes with sweat,
it becomes a sticky substance. Okay, the the rule states you can't have
it in your glove. So ifhe's not in his hands, how did

(01:31:53):
he get there? Right? Well? And then check the can jump up
from the ground inside his glove,meaning like where your hand goes in from
the video that Adam Wexler posted onhis Twitter, which that's where they were
checking, like inside the glove,which is weird to me because if it's
inside the glove, now unless you'regoing to your left hand and you feel

(01:32:15):
it like you know how I'm talkinglike I know, But my point is,
think pine tar when you want thepine tar. Sometimes the guy's put
at the top, gulp, getit on your batting glove, bring it
down, put it on the onthe handle, and the same thing here.
So it is an odd you say, okay, so I put it
in my glove, sticky, sayif you were trying to do it purposely,
stick it in there, come outand then when you rub your hands

(01:32:38):
together the white maybe I'll sweat you'regetting on your throwing hand. It just
seems odd the way they do it. It's a it seems like low common
sense. The way they approach itshould be in the webbing or the the
heel of your glove on the outsideit. Because if you if you saw
some guy constantly go to it,wouldn't you be thinking, dude, Yeah,
and there's also's hand the left hand. Right, try to put it

(01:33:00):
in their belt, right, youguys go down to the belt right,
try to do it right, tuckit in and get a little subst Okay,
fine, I just for me andour callers. Right, and you
talked about spin rate. If spinrate isn't now, sticky sticky, if
we're saying rosin and sweat doesn't increasespin rate, why is it illegal.
Good point is is it? Andnow some science, since somebody has got

(01:33:24):
scientific approach, if you can tellI'm going by what you said that.
If now you say, well,any sticky substance increase the spin rate.
If rosin and water mix does notincrease spin rate for a picture, let's
just I'm just saying, I don'tknow. If let's just say it doesn't,
then why do we care. Ohwell, and you got a rosin

(01:33:46):
bag out there, the guy's gonnaput it on his hand, flop it
up, it lands in his hand, and at some point in time,
like germs in the air, thatthings can transfer. I'm not making an
excuse for Blanco. I'm just talkingabout I think sometimes our rules, as
I've always said, each we makerules for rules, and once again,
every single thing we do is setup for offense. In football, in

(01:34:10):
basketball, well basketball they just don'tplay defense. And in baseball, instead
of what's the pitcher's advantage, nowtell me what that is, I'd like
to know where does the pitcher getan advantage at any point in time over
the hitter? And they thinking aboutmoving the damn mound back. Yeah,
they were talking about putting that intrip Latescy. Just think about how stupid
this is now about baseball. Justto get to all this, You want

(01:34:32):
faster games, so you put apitch clock on them. You want more
offense, You move the mound back, which is going to create what more
offense? Less velocity? You movethe mound back, create less more offense,
less velocity. Aren't the games goingto last longer because there's more people
coming to the plate and score moreruns? Yeah? You see, You

(01:34:54):
see what I'm saying. Try toget into the logic of these dumb asses
at times when they make rules.So the whole rot listen, he got
caught. It's the rule, doit, But sometimes maybe a rule if
if it's not increasing spend rate,as you had mentioned earlier, then why
the hell is it illegal? WhenI was playing a little you grab rosin
whether you liked it or left,step off the mound, lick your fingers,

(01:35:14):
wipe them off before you get backon, good to play. I
just don't get it. Like wechase trouble, we borrow trouble with rules
in sports, we try to fixstuff that. Quite frankly, the Bob
Gibson's and those guys, your pitcher, Randy Johnson. We won't even talk
about rosin because one guy does itnow four hundred got to suffer. You

(01:35:35):
get my point about the the reallythe spray on and pine tar too high
in your back. Still trying tofigure what pine tar up at half extra
half an inch. It's not likeyou're putting it on the barrel. Okay,
people trip out. It's just that'sexactly right. It's like when you
meet to meet to meet, theschedule a meeting to meet to meet.
You're cutting into my time making money. Stop it this. I don't know

(01:35:59):
about the how it mixes and makesit happen, but if it's not increasing
your advantage as a pitcher, thenwell then don't put rosin behind the rubber
thing. Take it away so there'snot even the chance that it can be
a problem. Still check them becausethey may be doing it in the dugout
great stupid. Yeah, it's inthe rural states. You cannot have it
on your non pitching hands. Solet's uh, we'll keep discussing this.

(01:36:23):
Uh this, uh excuse me,this subject of the suspension for renew blocker.
We'll get that next. In sportStock seven to eighty, the Shawn
Salisbury show continues in a no nowyou know. Yeah, they were one
for eleven with runners in scorn posiness, Yeah, and still won two to

(01:36:44):
one, winning close ones. Looka little less, Greg, Thank god
they're playing the A's. Hey,dude, listen, you could be heartbroken.
I'll tell you what though the frontand night before. Mason Miller for
the Athletics is filthy. Dude.He may very well be. He is

(01:37:05):
disgusting. He could be as nastyas there is in baseball. Right now,
he's got a point nine eight er RA. Dude. He mowed
down the Astros and struck out fivewalk one. Dude, he's almost like
right now, oh my god.Remember when Spark said he goes Dude,
If you said, I said,yeah, See, you just don't see
him enough because you're not stayed upfor late coast late West coast games with

(01:37:26):
the Ago, So I don't wantto listen to Jenny Kavnar too, right,
I get it. This dude isis electric fair to say, dude,
he is nasty, filthy, aflat out bitch to hit. Yeah,
dude, when he takes the mound, it's like I told you,
like I said, hey, hey, hey, Crucker when Cleve's took them.

(01:37:49):
Yet we got no shot there.When when the hitting instructor tells you
we got no shot today, andit was Clements coming to the mound,
and he was right, man,had no shot that. And when this
dude comes to mount, you gottaleave. When this guy comes to mount,
yeah, or when he or atany point in time, if you're
down and he comes out because heneeds work, guess what. Good luck?

(01:38:10):
Yeah, good luck, you're gonnago there? Seven seven John,
Good morning, Hey guys, howare you all today? Hey? Check
it out, man. I don'tknow if anybody's brought this up this morning
because I've been in and out.But last night in the second inning,
well Blanco was pitching and I justhappened to look up or turn around and

(01:38:33):
catch it, but he was onthe mound. I saw him walk off
the back and half of the moundbecause we all know he sweat so much,
and he was hitting his glove handwith the rising bag. I saw
it, and yeah, I meanhe dad didn't like where your watch would

(01:38:54):
be on the top part of hisform or risk he hit it right there.
Yeah, that's that. That's thelock that sweat from going down into
his hand right there, you goto it. Yeah, So I mean
the age very well more than ofcourse they must have seen it or somebody
saw it and you know, broughtit to the umpire's attention. There at

(01:39:15):
first Pance it looked like a thirteenyear old. But uh, I mean
it was plain as day, plainas day when he hit his glove hand.
So I'm sure you know. Ofcourse MLB's going to review the tapes
and they're going to see it.And you know he's gone for ten days,
but uh, is it? JPFritz on the IR. Yeah he's

(01:39:39):
heard, Yeah, he is RD. So I thought because Zach could ask
me why where? What happened?Where has he been? And Stephan why
Brown still here? And I toldhim myself, I think JP went on
the I R So, Sean,did you happen to tell Brian what I
had told you last week? No? Why don't you? I was gonna
when you No, I was gonnasay when you said it. I said,

(01:40:03):
let me, Le'm gonna let yousay it. You brought it,
so I want you to get thecredit for it. Go ahead, like
you appreciate that, brother, Brian. What's up? John? You know
there's jackets out there that are alittle bit bigger for when you wear him
on Sunday Night with the Sports Sundayon Channel There, Man, I mean

(01:40:23):
that's a forty six long. That'sa forty six long trying to go get
a fifty hire because you're gone,that's a it's a forty six long,
John. Have you seen bad boystoo? I have? Yeah? What
are you? What? Are youa coppera model? No? When you
get what when you you know MartinLawn is sitting there, you know one

(01:40:44):
is cockstrong that Kate barely turn aroundand wiping yeah, wipe his on ass?
Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, youlooked a little uncomfortable there, Bro.
I was like, you looked alittle long. I was like,
damn, what's wrong with Brian?Looks like he, you know, might
have I don't know, John,I'm not the smallest little appearance. Yeah,
you know five eight which one sixty? But I saw that. I

(01:41:10):
said, man, I'm gonna tellSean Monday morning. But he didn't.
I just like I said, youhave had it, brother, because I
didn't see your appearance. Were WEXwere on? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
I get to see it. Butapparently you were wearing you were wearing
a medium seer suck. No Johnwould appreciate it, man, Thank god,
thanks Jo. It was a fortysix long wear forty six long?

(01:41:31):
And what happened? Why are youwearing seersucker on a Sunday night show?
That mesucker? Man? They cameup to your you push them. What
do you think? This is?Don Jo Rico Tubs and the City Rocket
pushing him up to your fore arms? You did wear the one where you
have to you can't quite you knowthat you'll see some of those guys that
you'll it doesn't. Uh, VinceMcMahon sometimes wear a tie or where it's

(01:41:56):
he loosens the top button and theties kind of maybe it's not McMahon,
but and then and then he itdoesn't or maybe I've seen it in a
movie where because the next big andyou can't get or you wear an exercise
so can't really quite button it up. And yes, so was that your
style? No? I had blackdress pants on a nice black long sleeve
three button Henley and a nice didyou go black on black on black?

(01:42:20):
No? My jacket was a toothlight gray with some blue and a light
brown mixed. And then I hadmy hat on my black Coalhn their dressy
shoes, but yeah, but theblack suit or with yes, but they're
black. But they had the lightbrown to match the suit, jet to

(01:42:41):
match the blazer and a white bottomcomfy. Looked good. It was a
forty six long just as good.Look it felt good. It did feel
good. I got a little tasteon it. I can tell why you
did it for over a decade.Damn, dude, I want more of
that. I want to do radioanti too. Yeah, it's not you're
not too proud to beg No,not at all. Where you go O

(01:43:03):
nice to get dressed up, throwa coat and tie on? What's dressed
like? I wear joggers in aan athletic shirt. You know, I
spent fifteen plus years sitting in asuit six days a week. See the
suit. I'm okay, I'm nottrying to sport code or a tie.
It's like and you go and yousay, just this. I got four
hundred shirts and ties and I gotto mix and match because I don't want

(01:43:23):
to wear the same one on TV. And one's a sport coat with slacks,
the other one is a full suit. Then maybe when the three when
the when the vest is in whereyou go a T piece or and it's
just yeah it's I spent my travelingthrough airports and the most comfortable you got
was loosen the tie. God.Yeah. See, well nowadays you can
just wearants or a T shirt witha rock band name on it and go

(01:43:45):
on TV. Now, hell,I'm going to reinvent it. I'm gonna
come back and give you fifteen morewith I don't have to dress up.
Yeah, I could wear blue jeansand tennis shoes, whether the tennis shoes
or like or like you go onyellow right. Brian Winhorse the other day
was wearing jeans on clouds and justthrew a blazer over a T shirt and
he was on TV like to whereyou could see his whole outfit, not
just from the waist up. Andthen I can go dominate those guys in

(01:44:09):
those talk shows and then those debateshows without yelling at him though. It's
because it's hot takes over there,man, and then you get the hot
take and get paid for it.Yeah, I'm all in. Jee's on
a hot take. Let's go.It's on clouds, stealing the we need
to put our on clouds. Aswe go over to the SaberCats professional rugby
game this Saturday. Sean. Theyare nine and one and they host the

(01:44:30):
Chicago Hounds a Saturday night. Okay, let me. You like football,
yeah, and you love rugby andso do I. Obviously it's action pack,
constantly moving, you know. Hockey'salways moving. Rugby's a close thing
we get because it's always moving.They're not wearing gear. Man, you
like tough guys. Hey, SaberCatsstadiums off two eighty eight in the airport
close to downtown Houston. SaberCats ornine and one, as Brian mentioned,

(01:44:53):
first thousand fans this week receive asixteen out silicone cup and stick around after
the match for some postgame social ona pitch. A lot going on at
Houston. Uh, Houstonsabercats dot comman great stuff. Yeah over at that
stadium, like Sean mentioned, offtwo eighty eight and Airport road. Uh,
it's Salute to Teachers Night presented bywood Forest National Banks. Will get

(01:45:14):
there early. The pregame party startsat five thirty and they're gonna have happy
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is at seven pm. The SaberCatsare leading the Western Conference in Major League
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(01:45:38):
continued. I can hear him now. That's all I'm hearing now is the
old the baritone. Yeah, greatcut, great cut, great cut.
Triple you gotta watch Grease seven sevenwere to pull this one out, then

(01:46:00):
that's good stuff. Talking about RenelleBlanco being ejected for sticky stuff. The
Astros won that ballgame in extra innings. They're back in action tonight, seven
to ten, the first pitch,six o'clock on Deck Show. Astron general
manager Dana Brian gonna join us atnine thirty. Let's talk to Garrett.
Garrett, thank you for holding.Good morning, Brian, Sean, good
morning. You know, that's onething I like about Triple E is he's

(01:46:21):
got this diverse selection of music thatwill always, you know, make you
smile when you when he plays something. So that one was cool. But
on the A Spota situation, hmy opinion's kind of evolved. I initially
thought that he was throwing his playerunder the bus. But I was running

(01:46:42):
it through I guess some buddies onlineand they kind of said, you know,
you've got to kind of rethink this, because if you're not correcting it,
then you're allowing it. And ifhe claims he saw it, essentially
ultimately that complacency for the club house, which in the long term, uh

(01:47:04):
you know, could be a disciplinaryissue where he would lose control long term
of the clubhouse. So I thinkit's a pivotal moment for a SPATA to
uh maybe just kind of correct it, move on from this and address it
on that level. And you knowwhat, Jared, thanks for the call.

(01:47:27):
Good point. I don't think thatyou got I don't think that we
any I don't think people were suggesting, you know, when Sheena was talking
about the energy and the rest ofI don't think anybody or us were suggesting
that he threw his player under thebus. He made it easy with his
cobbage for well, is there anappeal? Can you win the appeal when
you say you saw the substance?I don't. I think Joe was being

(01:47:48):
honest when they asked because want toknow will I mean, fans and media
want to will why they do it. I mean, there's because there's so
many different, you know, branchesto why this happens. And instead of,
like Brian said, the other theuniformity, where is it across baseball.
I don't think he was throwing himunder the bus. I think it's

(01:48:09):
sometimes we probably are too honest andshare too much information. We all do.
He probably could have said, yeah, well, you know what,
I don't make those decisions. Igot my players back. I can tell
you this. It wasn't on purpose. I'm not telling Joe what to say,
but I think we all err onthe side of protecting what's you know,
what's ours, meaning our pitcher,our teammate, and you'd rather have
you go than him go. Youknow, you don't need to get ejected

(01:48:30):
over that, especially if you knowwhat happened, you saw the substance.
But everybody doesn't need to know that. They don't have to offer up information.
I don't think he was throwing intentionallythrowing Renelle Blanco under the bus at
all. I think the majority ofpeople just want to see more passion in
the well. I don't know inthe discussion or the argument as to why,
but I don't think he threw himunder the bus. But I think

(01:48:54):
that sometimes we probably all offer uptoo much information when it comes to teammates,
I mean, not teammates, butin those situations. Yeah, and
here's the here's Joe spot's explanation.This is what a couple of callers have
called in about as a spot.I was speaking of the media after the
game, the same explanations that youknow, you could just kind of see
it inside his glove, you know, the kind of the white powder,

(01:49:15):
you know, so you know it'sit sucks because he was throwing the ball
well and you know, but youknow I I I believe I saw kind
of the substance in there, andyou know, the steakiness to it.
So you know that was it.Oh that's Joe's spot of talking about it.

(01:49:36):
Yeah. See, I mean it'sa pretty transparent answer. I mean,
look, if he saw it,he saw us. I mean what
I understand having your players back.I mean, but what did you in
that moment? What would be thecorrect answer, Well, why couldn't you
say, I'm not I don't knowwhat the correct answer is. Yeah,
but I don't think it was intentionallythe bust toss. I don't think so
that's all for information me. Couldit have been easier to say, apparently

(01:50:00):
they saw the white substance in hisglove and it was sticky. Couldn't you
turn it on them? They could? They saw it. You don't have
to say you saw it. You'rejust the manager of protecting your player.
They saw white substance, you didn'tlie. They did, and it was
sticky. You don't have to offerup that you saw it too. I'm
not telling Joe how to answer.Well, you want transparency, he gave
it to you. Yeah. Idon't think in the process he wanted.

(01:50:20):
In the fourth inning, his playerejected, and I don't think he was
trying to throw him under the bus. I think being overly honest and overly
transparent was is you know that makesyou say, man, why would he
do that to his own player.I don't think it was intentional at all
by either Guy the spot or Blancle. But I do think that he probably
could have without you know, yourflat out, look at him in the

(01:50:42):
face and line and say well,they saw white substance and the sticky subs
in his glove. So he gotejected, Okay, no problem. I
think we all have a tendency tooffer up information. Yeah, you know
what, don't need to convince anybodythey're going to suspend him. It probably
makes the the appeal a little moredifficult. Pretty interested to hear what Dana
Brown is going to tell us atnine thirty in regards to the situation.

(01:51:03):
Yeah, because I you know,he's been very transparent with us about a
host of different topics. So assuminghe'll tell us what he knows. Yeah,
and again I would assume that thesuspension will come down today for Renel
Blanco. He'll appeal and we'll haveto go from there. Seven one,
three, two point two five,seven ninety the number to join talking about
Renel Blanco and his ejection, thesuspension that is coming. But let's talk

(01:51:26):
about Ryan Presley. Came in theball game last night, gave up another
lead. It's the third blown uhsave or yeah, blown save opportunity this
season? What's going on with Presley? That's next? This is the Sean
Salisbury Show. Are you not atthe time? Let's begin nowcohol? Oh

(01:51:48):
yeah, cow on Sports Talk sevenninety. It's okay, So you cant
fired up about his cowboys, isn'tthat right? Trip Ley? What cowboys?
See what about about his plowboys?No, don't, don't go to
the gospel. No, we've alreadygone over plowboys. Plow boy is plowboy

(01:52:11):
is a farmer? Yeah, notyour idea of a plowboy? What is
my idea of a plowboy? Idon't know. Why don't you tell us?
I'm not No, we're on radioa plowboy. Plowboys, dude,
Just the the connotation just it's justit's weird. Plowboy. It is plowboy.
It is you know what goes onit? Tommy bahamas on a Thursday

(01:52:33):
night. I have no idea whatgoes on? What? Where? Where's
Tommyama? Yeah? You know youknow what Tommy m'hammad is. Probably people
just buying golf clothes. Mm hmmm. Is there a pineapple involve There is
a pineapple. So I'm assuming thatmaybe a cougar is looking for a plowboy.
Okay, I'm just gonna leave itat that. Is it? Is

(01:52:53):
it a different? Is it's aplowboy? What? Okay? What's the
cougar called? When you're younger?Again? At this? A puma?
Puma? Yeah? So a pumais a it would be a blank boy
you know when when it goes oh, he's just a blank boy. He's
an F boy, right, yes, yeah, that's an F boy.
So if a cougar, because thenext level, who has it? Right?

(01:53:15):
Who is it? Okay, thenyou got the you got the middle
road, which is the cougar inthe age one. So would a puma
in the male version wou be calleda plowboy. No, it's like a
silver not a silver face, somekind of fox. I mean, we
could change it. You want meget I can. No. I just
wondering what the age group, buta plowboy for you see, you could

(01:53:35):
also take plowboy the other way andassume that well, maybe you're the plowed
Okay, okay, I mean I'mthe catcher. I don't know. I
just a plowed all's icy him outthere in a caboda, Okay, I
just one drinking, Yeah, onedrinking beer. The cowboys drinking a cold

(01:53:56):
beer. Maybe the plowboys drinking orwell, in this case, Luke Bryan,
the plowboy, John parties, thecowboy parties, the whiskey guy.
Luke Bryan's the the beer guy.So one's out there caboting it up,
the other ones out there you know, uh, punching that doggie? Okay,
I punching that doggie. You don'tknow what that means either, No,

(01:54:18):
because we don't punch dogs, sothat can only mean one thing.
Look it up, dude, youyou are so off on that one.
What well? Look up? Whatpunched that doggie? In rodeo terms mean
see if I'm right or wrong punchingthat doggie? That doggie. Hopefully I
didn't do what you do and mixthem. I can't find anything uh man

(01:54:44):
called on video kicking and punching adog. No, that's not has anything
to do with It's not a bit, it's it's it's it's a I believe
a rodeo term, punch that doggie. So so you got one. It's
there's one way with a cowboy,the plowboy. But you you fit the
plowboy mode more. Yeah, I'mnot fine. I'm really I'm really not
finding it. I'll look it upfor you. Okay, let me let
me take see if we can gettwo calls for it gets to the top

(01:55:08):
of the hour. Let's get vireYavia. Thanks for holding me. What's
going on? What's up, dude? I have two things about the game
last night. Yes, sir,wrestling man, I think that's just a
run there. You gotta score moreruns. One run allows no room for
error. But I'm not saying it'sokay either, because Chrissey has been shaking
this season. And also I waslike in the tenth row above the dougout

(01:55:31):
last night, and I don't knowwho the hell the Athletics had pitching,
but this dude was throwing one hundredand three miles an hour. Yeah,
Mason, Mason Miller is the guythat you're talking about. He is filthy.
Everybody needs the team a long timedude. He is disgusting. He

(01:55:51):
uh two likes pitched and struck outfive last night. He is nasty,
bro. I was like, ina tenth row, Dude, I could
literally hear the fast wall coming infrom in the tenth row, dog,
you know, like the scenes,you could hear him coming. I heard
that in the tenth road, Drew. I was like, who the hell
is this guy? That is nasty? Dude? Yeah, I'd take him
in a heartbeat, man. Yeah. And that that dude right there,

(01:56:13):
that uh when when you're throwing likethat. He's not just a thrower either,
He's a freaking Pitcher Brown straight upfor him. I guess what they
appreciate the thanks, brother, thanks. I can tell you that's they ain't
doing that. No, absolutely not, No, they are definitely not doing
that. John. We got aboutforty five seconds for you, brother.

(01:56:34):
What's going on? Oh, everything'sokay. They ain't gonna take long.
Well, like I say, hey, Joe, Joe, Jo Joe,
you gotta do better than there,my man, that they was starting pitching.
Boy, you can't let them goout that easy. I don't care
what you've seen. If you've seenit, you see I don't you know.
I don't know nothing. Man,put up a fight, do something.

(01:56:54):
Protect your player that's just starting.It's you. You can't let him
put them out the game. Noten days, man, you you gotta
get back into stuff. So that'sall I gotta say. He got to
do better protecting his players. Takethe fall if you if they kick you
out, they kick you out.But fight for your play because believe it
and not, the mother Pitchers iswatching. That's all I got, Philly,

(01:57:16):
I have a great day. Yeah, thank you, John. I
get what you're saying about the battleand the passionate battle for it. I
think on the other side of it, the had he got ejected, it
would have been too No matter whatJoe A. Spottle was going to say
last night, wasn't keeping Rondel Blancoin the game. No, they that
would already decide. But I getwhat you're saying, the passion like,
well, well wait a minute,the longer and maybe a little more explanation

(01:57:40):
just for the visual and optics oryour team. I get. But and
Joe, he just doesn't seem tobe a guy that's that animated with that.
And that's okay for some if ifhis team responds to it, it's
on them. Yeah, I wouldlike to see a little more fire,
but you gotta pick, you gottapick and shoes man. Last night for
me, last night's not there,No dude, a little more I I

(01:58:03):
I'd like a little more passion onthe on the explanation absolutely, but you
didn't need you knew one was goingNo matter what a spot said, he
was not preventing Blanco, who brokea rule on accident, from getting tossed.
But the fight, the the outwardlypassion. You know, you could
push the envelope without getting HEPHO justdon't make it personal. At least even

(01:58:25):
if you wave your arms while you'resmiling, I think you'd probably have a
few more people say, okay,whether it's your Sometimes you got to get
out of your normal personality, right, yeah, sometimes you got outside the
boxing. Right, Let's get intothe final. It was an old Miller
Light commercial with Billy Mark cowboys.Yeah that Doggi right, Yeah, Miller
Light did come up on my thereyou go or that beer, the light

(01:58:45):
beer that Miller like you could sayit's a commercial. I'm driving a spindletap
guy. Yeah all right, no, no freas, I'm with you.
Let's get into the nine o'clock hour. I want to talk about the spin
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Okay, let's do this. SeanSalisbury to usc true longtime friend Shawn Salisbury,
Ryan Lima, go Lobos. Thisis the Sean Salisbury show. The
old great Cowboy. Jim Shoulders wasin that commercial with Billy Martin too,
because Billy obviously known for getting infights and the rest of it. But

(02:02:00):
I knew it had to do withsomething to do with cowboy, not plowboy,
but cowboy and calves and whether it'sherding hum or move has something to
do with them or them getting alongwith other calves, whatever it is.
But it is a cowboy term.Yes, it's uh doggy. I just
found it. It's bulldogging. Andwhat'd I tell you during commercial? It's

(02:02:23):
called steer wrestling, right, bulldogget him to the ground, boom,
tie him off and there you go. That was my first thought when I
told you. But it has todo with calves, so it's a it's
it's wrestling them down to the ground, bulldogging them and tying them up.
So I went to uh, Iwent to flow rodeo dot com and I
found the Rodeo term dictionary. Thereyou go. That's how we're gonna start
the nine o'clock you know what Iam here on the shot sounds sounds very

(02:02:45):
wealthy use of knowledge exactly. Imean you're like, what the well,
nobody punches dogs. We won't talkingabout dog No, yeah, bulldogging.
There you go, baby hot doyeah I do. Right here on Sean
Salisbury Show, General manager of theHouston Astros Dana Brown, gonna join us
at nine to thirty. Astros Beata'sin extra innings last night, tenth inning

(02:03:11):
walk off by Victor Carrottini, pinchhit action for Caroteni tonight seven to ten,
the first pitch six o'clock on Deckshow. Right here on seven nine to
year home for Astros Baseball seven onethree, two, one two five seven
nine. Have been taking your callsall morning long talking Stros. Mark,
welcome in. What's up fellas?What's going on? Oh man? Just
enjoying y'all show. Uh, butdid want to make a quick comment.

(02:03:36):
Uh. The Astros are gonna gothrough some adversity this year, and I
do believe this is gonna probably haveJoe at the end of his wits because
he's gonna have to show some emotionat some point during this season. If
these guys intend to get into theplayoffs with this series is a good start,
and I think they got a chanceto make some headway, but they

(02:03:58):
got to stick it together. Theygotta go. It's got to be them
against the world at this point.And uh, don't y'all agree. I
mean, that's that's the only waythey're gonna see the end of the tunnel,
because they're gonna continue to have adversitythrown at him, especially right now
while you're down's having trouble hitting.Uh, and and what he needs to
do is borrow breakman. Doray,there you go, great, smart,

(02:04:19):
Thanks, And I'm gonna tell youit's not just adversity. It's gonna be
a dogfight. No pun intended aboutpunching that doggie, meaning the calf all
the way through. And I'm withyou. At some point in time,
I think we all, regardless ofour personality, emotion's got to come out
or you'll explode. Right. Youhave to release some of it along the
way. And I'm okay if hedoes it with an umpire, that'd be

(02:04:40):
okay with me. Every now andand it'll happen sometimes you just gotta you
gotta let that off. So thedog on thing, damn doesn't break in
your own inner Uh you know thatinside damn that you got, and it'll
happen. But forty games in Joe'sshown a resilience to be just calm and
go. And I think some firedoesn't mean victories, but sometimes the optics
of fire can change the way itgoes, even for your own team.

(02:05:04):
Been on teams with coaches, havehad both, and some like both.
But every now and then a playerthat you don't see explode and explodes.
And sometimes I don't think last nightwas the time to get kicked out,
but I understand why somebody wants alittle more fire coming out of the years.
Right, Oh you get that?Yeah, yeah, no question about
it. Seven one three five seveninetyMattress Mac, welcome in mac Hey.

(02:05:28):
What's that guy? Mac? What'sup buddy on the Blanco thing? Uh?
As far as when they asked whathappened, I would go back to
what this Navy steel guy taught memany years ago. Admitt nothing, deny
everything, counter accusations. There yougo. True, That's what I was
thinking back early all way, Isaid, I said, well, I
don't have to offer up information.Blame it on the up. Hey,

(02:05:50):
you saw the white have to doit, and uh said, say that
phrase again, Mac one more time. It meant nothing, deny everything,
make multiple counter accusations. Hey,Mac, can we get it? Can?
Can you? And I get ashirt for that. I'm gonna put
it that on the back of ashirt for us, buddy. I like
that. I love it. Whatdo you think about it? Anyway?

(02:06:12):
I just call it and I lovethe show, y'all. Keep it up.
Hey Mac, let me ask youone question before you go. Thank
you you. You told us itwas early in patience needed to play into
it. How are you feeling nowabout the last five or six games?
You're a big fan. My wife, family. We got to go to
Louisiana and bet Houston Astros at twentyto one, so we feel pretty good

(02:06:33):
about it. Okay, well,you know what, if there's an extra
seat on the plane, I'm inbrother there, we go. Appreciate your
Mac. Thank you you too.He's the best wife. Get it you
get him at twenty to one rightnow to win the whole thing. And
the wife asked back to go,guess what Mack's gotta do? Happy wife,
That's exactly right. Pop on inthere. I like it did I

(02:06:56):
multiple counter allegation, So I loveit. He's one of the all time
grave that had a great conversation withhim last Friday. To love it,
Let's go to Felipe. Felipe,welcome in. Good morning, guys,
enjoying your show. Been listening fora very long time. My first time
I actually calling in a big shoton me man, you know, just
throwing down them tunes and keeping this, keeping us happiness. H wats on

(02:07:18):
Wednesday? I want to get offman. I think I think of needs
to stow a little bit more emotions, you know. I think we've all
talked about that. And even ifit's just a little just even getting that
just a big He can't just goout there and just talk and he buddy
buddy and walk into the mark thankinto the dugout and expect everything's gonna be

(02:07:39):
okay with the team. He's guysgoing to see that. I think he
just needs to throw a little morebag bones. We don't have to go
all out and throw trash hands andthrow bases around and everything like that.
But I think he does with theshow. But man if Alla down for
it. Uh you know we hadyou had a call her call in a
little earlier, Sina not saying thesame thing. Man, if y'all want,
we can go ahead and back herup for the manageeral position that could

(02:08:01):
never needs to be opened. Butyeah, man, I just think the
uh, you know, the objectioninjection was a little too like not explained
pretty well. You know. Ithink responders Surge just acted the guy like
Max Max said, you know,deny anything and all that stuff. He
should just not said a word.And the PR team needs to go ahead

(02:08:24):
and start getting on this case aswell and helping him out there, thought
britty guy. You guys you gotto keep up great work with the show.
Listen. Appreciate it. Appreciate Yeah, I'm a big believe. Don't
offer up for information nobody asked forim if you don't want the if you
want the information, and if theydo ask, I don't have to give

(02:08:45):
it to you. There you go, there you go. So I I
read a report a little bit agothat Joe spot I actually made mention of
renew Blanco switching gloves and the umpiresrefused. So is like I said,
Dana Brown, hopefully give us someINSA. I don't know the protocol for

(02:09:07):
that, but I'd sure like toknow if it's an option or is it
to the umpire's discretion. Yeah,that's that's the problem. It should be
uniformity across the league. Also,they checked his glove earlier in the game,
saw no issue. Then they hadan issue before he pitched in the
fourth and like I said earlier inthe show, he did not have his

(02:09:28):
hands checked either way. Look,the rule says you can't have it on
your non pitching hand, or inyour glove or on your uniform. And
if that's what they felt like wasgoing on, that's why you toss.
I just have There's so many layersthat we dug into in the six o'clock
hour, with the different instances acrossthe league. Where Yamamoto was able to
switch his glove last year, DomingoHerman was able to wash his hands.

(02:09:50):
I mean, dude, it's andI hope they didn't make the decision based
on well and any number two youdidn't have it on, but in any
number four you did. Well.Guess what if you play two minutes of
a basketball game or twenty minutes,where do you think you're gonna sweat more?
Uh? Probably while you're on thebench. Apparently that's the way umpires
think. Yes, man, that'scrazy. Hey what a classic called by

(02:10:13):
mac shirts coming. Every time there'sa good phrase shirts come and need it,
gotta have them. That was agreat one. I also, uh,
I wear contacts. Maybe I shouldget Lasik? Is it that time?
That time time time for you?Well, it's it's time for always
my time. Yeah, it's alwaysmy time to talk about what's a visions?
Is it time? No, it'swiths the time. Yeah, doctor

(02:10:37):
Jeff wits it? What a cheesemodle lead in? That was it's w
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You got two of them hopefully andif you do, or if you
got one, you want to keepit healthy. The invasive Why I get

(02:10:58):
asked a lot of times, well, Sean, what if I could get
a Lasik for one hundred bucks?Well, do you trust in your eyes
to somebody who's gonna treat you likean assembly line and stamp you off and
say, oh there you go,not me? You want it done right?
Fair? It's a proper payment plan. But you also want it done
where somebody does it with quality,and people also ask me, well,
Sean, what about the invasive partof it? When you went through it

(02:11:20):
a lasik shining down on your eyes, it's the latest equipment. It is
an invasive off it in For meit was literally minutes done efficiently with all
the changes in lasik procedure. Andyou have the best hands and eyes of
a doctor on the planet and aforemost lasik procedure. Guy, listen,
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(02:11:43):
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it. I had same concerns.Is it invasive? Am I gonna smell
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the recovery time is pretty urgent andvery efficient, and you're going to
be seeing better than you have likeI am in two and a half three
decades. For me, it waslike reinventing get film lifted from my eyes

(02:12:03):
and reinventing my eyes to the pointof this is what I should in a
long time ago. You can doit too. Go see him. Free
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Rangers their tails between their legs?What's hours shotgun with someone who's thrown from
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(02:12:54):
down tomorrow? Breaking it down?Man? I all right, did you
did you? Did you turn thismy stuff up? Walk by turns up
so I blow my ear drums outwhen I was Why would I do that?
What a cold blooded bitch? Gosh, you probably did it. Know
why would I do it? Idon't know. I've I've I've learned.

(02:13:15):
How O C D you are?I'm not touching any of your stuff?
You know? No? Yeah,I just blew up my ears when you
were touching that. Go you're overthere. I'm over here, No chance,
dog, look, we're dogs.Maybe TRIPLEY came in and punked your
ass. What it did, Iconfessed, Triple did. What was your
question to me? I didn't havea question. It was I just don't

(02:13:35):
want you to get excited or scheduled. Yeah, I had a couple of
calls from so just just so youdon't know, a couple of calls from
across the country to go on shows. This a couple but and you know
them both shows. H I wantto talk? Did they really? And
I as I said, Oh,I can't do it today. You may

(02:13:56):
have to catch you later of theweek. And by the way, and
I said, what if. Backto the producer, I said, make
sure you tell my man. Ididn't care about the schedule when I played,
and I don't care about it nowthe schedule release. But I'll come
on with him later in the weekif he really wants to talk about it,
I can talk about so. Yeah. That's the point is the passion
around the country. People love it. The only one way I get it

(02:14:18):
is if you're scheduling your trip,yeah, to go to an away game,
or you just want to start gettingusing all your energy up now for
a game in November Okay, Iguess I get it. So it's actually
kind of funny because I'm going tobe on a Texans podcast tonight at seven
o'clock tucking schedule, Texans Fan BattlePodcast. Shout out to the Texans Fan

(02:14:39):
Battle podcast. I do some prettygood work for the Houston Texans. Yeah,
don't I see them on Twitter?And I said, yeah, all
the time. We got some goodfolks on there. I'll be on with
those guys tonight at seven schedule.Yeah, I can't wait. Chris,
good morning, Good morning. Questionfor y'all. In a situation like last
night where there's something comes into question, and did the glove get shipped off

(02:15:01):
and test it prior to any punishmenthanded out or is it tick by case?
So I believe Major League Baseball sothe umpires confiscated the glove, took
it down below the clubhouse or belowthe dugout, I should say, into
their umpire's room, and I believethey're going to try to figure out what
the substance is. Yeah. Iasked that question too, and I appreciate

(02:15:24):
that. Chris earlier about do theyput it in a plastic baggie and seal
it up like you would yeah,like you when you, you know,
butcher a cow and you keep itin your freezer so you can eat it
three months later. Do they dothat, seal it up so it can't
be tamper with, send it tothe league offices they checked the substance.
How long does the substance stay init? I don't know, Or is
it done on the premise post gameby the very guys that looked at it

(02:15:48):
in the first place, say yep, it's their evidence. I don't Or
do they take a swab of itlike they would have your throat culture and
send it in. I don't knowthat protocol. I'm not sure many do.
Obviously didn't know Rosin because Blanco admittedhe didn't know the situation. So
we'll last Dana Brown. But tryingto hit all the layers of this,

(02:16:09):
you make a good point the tengame suspension. When they say he could
face a ten game suspension up toten games, that that that means.
I would imagine they're going to doa little more due diligence to validate what
these umpires found out last night.Yeah, I think they will. I
think you have to go for asecond look at it, don't you.
Except just the emotion of a game, right, I think start to Jesse,

(02:16:31):
Jesse, thanks for holding good morning. Hey, good morning Brian and
Sean and Tabilia, thanks for takingmy calls. I just wanted to get
something off my chest about this injuryor about this for you. Yeah.
So you know, one of thefactors that was linked to all this rash
of pitching injuries was the increased useof the changeup and the sweeper. And
they said that these pitches are causingpictures to get injured because if they can't

(02:16:52):
get a grip on the ball,then to put strain on their forum and
that's why they're getting hurt. Andso you know, the aswers have had
seven starting pitchers go on the injuredlist, literally all of them except for
Hunter Brown and Blanco. So itfeels like, so if Blanco has to
use some some substance to get agrip on the ball so he doesn't go
on the injured list, it feelslike it's a catch twenty two. What

(02:17:13):
does Major League Baseball expect expect thesepitchers to do? You have to use
the substance so that they don't getinjured, and then they use the substance
just so that they don't get injured, then they have to get suspended.
So that that that's that was thepoint that I wanted to make. And
so I'll hang up, and Iknow you gotta get Dana Brown on,
but thanks for taking my call.Appreciate it, Jesse, thanks for coming
in. I'm still trying to andI and I get what he's saying.

(02:17:33):
How does a circle change clause?I mean, because what I'm I'm assuming
is I'm trying to think so theextra strain on a circle. Cham Blanco
throws it all the time. SoGarrett Cole came out and he was one
of the loudest voices in Major Leaguebaseball saying that we need attack. Yeah,
we need some sort of baseball thathas a better grip. And that's

(02:17:56):
across all of Major League baseball.So what I'm assuming is, you know
things that I hear when it comesto like when you're coaching youth, not
mean necessarily, but when you're throwinga fastball and then you throw a change
up, Yeah, you throw itjust the same as a fastball, except
for the wrist motion. Right now, the risk is in breaking like a
screwball. The finish is towards ifyou're pitching as the right hand, the

(02:18:16):
fish would be towards a third basebay, right, So I'm assuming maybe
because the armor the elbow, especiallyguys you're throwing ninety nine. I saw
over the weekend, was it inClete Detroit? Like a up? Yeah?
Yeah, stupid, which which islike, I mean, you think
about that, how are you throwingninety two change ups? And when we
see ninety four slide pieces and ninetyare you kidding? I understand the torque

(02:18:39):
on an elbow and and and thatthat strain on that elbow when you're throwing
ninety four. But the difference isand isn't amazing that we all like to
think, well, is it fastballsbecause we're throwing so hard, But it's
the movement and the torque and thedifferent directions that you're putting your elbow in
on the different finishes. It's notjust curveball. It's not just fastball.
It's the other stuff. That's theold Fernando Valezuela. So we call it

(02:19:03):
a screwball, which was the otherway. It's now we just name him
different, right, Yeah, youknow the splitter now you know, we
don't call it splitter we call it, you know. Split piece's right right?
Well, split piece. You gotthe slider, which the slide piece.
But the way these cut fastballs andthe way these change throwing nineteen ninety
two change ups the hell out ofhere. Yeah, so imagine the torque
on the elbow makes a good point. I still want to finish. Yeah,

(02:19:24):
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(02:21:35):
Salisbury Brown Liemammanuel Elmore. Let's welcomein Astros general manager Dana Brown to the
show we do weekly Wednesday nine thirty. Visit and imagine you're rolling in here
a little bit happier after another victory, winning close games, extending big leads.
I imagine today is a pretty goodday to start, and I know
there's many more to come, butbeen a better week so far, Dana.

(02:21:58):
As far as this baseball club concerned, yeah, absolutely. You know
my thoughts are you know, assoon as we start to heat up,
you know things were going to turnaround. And I feel like right now
and you know, the bats areheating up, we're getting pretty good starts,
the bulltennis locked in and so yeah, good things are going to happen
when you can do those things.Hey, can we talk about real quick

(02:22:22):
about Kyle Tucker? And I rememberlast year he said you want to make
him an astro for his career,which is a great thing. We'll get
to that another time. But theway he's hitting the ball gap, the
gap all over the place plays goldglove caliber right field, I mean,
and does it. So what looksnonchalant, but make no mistake, as
you know, the intensity, whyis what is maybe something we don't know

(02:22:43):
about his grind what makes him sogood over and above the obvious that we
can see with the naked eye.Yeah, ultimately, excuse me. He's
a five to two player, youknow, and he can beat you in
so many ways. You know,he can beat you with the glove.
He can beat you with his legs, he can beat you with his power.
He can beat you with his bat, you know, just to hit

(02:23:05):
to itself and so uh and thenthen definitely he can throw. So you
know, he's got the five tools. He's he's kind of a laid back
player, you know, he's notthis flashy type guy. But he comes
and he grinds every day and hehas good at bats. You know,
even last night they brought in theirhard thrower with the nasty, filthy slider,

(02:23:28):
and you know he ended up workingout a wall because he didn't get
anything to hit. Uh. Sohe's that kind of a player, you
know. And yeah, he's excitingto watch, and you know he's a
big piece of what we're doing here, Danna. He doesn't seem like that,
whether it's god like if he wenton a role like he is now
hitting the ball all over the ballparkand just doing what he does, or

(02:23:50):
when money and talk of that contractsinvolved. I don't feel from my optics
that the guy good or bad everreally changes his demeanor. And that's a
good thing to have that as youtalk about the marathon, he seems like
a guy that can handle any stressor any good stuff that's happening to him
both equally as well. Yeah,good point his heart and his stomach is

(02:24:15):
they're both always on creuse control.But his game is always on the up
and up, and so you knowhe's out there, he's playing. Sometimes
you don't know he's out there becausehe's not this flashy guy, but boom,
he'll come up in the eighth inningand get a big hit, or
he'll steal a base or he'll throwsomeone out, or he'll make a play

(02:24:35):
in the corner. And he's justeven keel and that's how he goes about
his job. For him, it'slike another walk in the park, you
know. For us it brings excitement, of course. Yeah, boy,
we all need to have that personaand demeanor and production that Kyle Tucker brings
to the table. Dana Brown everyWednesday nine thirty joins us. We're going

(02:24:56):
to get to Bregman and some otherthings, but get to last night on
the immediate side. Here we're tryingto figure out, Dana, you know
what happened in La that the gloveand armand last year with the Yankees they
took a glove, replaced it andlet him stay in. And then here
last night with Blanco and the whitesubstance, sticky substance ejected faces a ten
game suspension. Do you know,and I mean this sincerely, do you

(02:25:18):
know the protocol of why in oneballpark is there any uniformity to this the
overall get ejected because the sticky stuffapproach? What is the protocol? Yeah?
I mean, I just think it'sthe empire's judgment on you know what
he thinks and what he feels ifhe fills the glove of the sticky.

(02:25:39):
So we will await, you know, their investigation in the outcome. I
think, you know, if anybodythat knows Blanco and has been watching Blanco,
he sweats profusely, right, andyou could just see it coming off
of him and dripping every time outthere, regardless of the temperature outside or
the temperature indoors, or whatever thecase may be. And so I think

(02:26:03):
it was probably for me just inmy evaluation, it looks like a combination
of heavy sweat and maybe the rosinbags. So but I don't know.
They have to come up with theirinvestigation. We'll await them and see what's
happening. We don't feel like thespin rates changed, so there was no
advantage there. So the spin ratesare pretty much the same when all of
his pitches. So we'll await theirinvestigation and see what they say. But

(02:26:28):
I was totally shocked and surprise,you know, I don't. I mean,
he's blowing, he's flowing so well, and so you know, I
just was totally in all. Sowe'll we'll find out what they what they
say. Yeah, Dana, I'mwith you, and we were discussing to
say, if spin rate doesn't changeand I got a rosin bag back there
for a reason. I mean,I understand you're not in the rule business,

(02:26:50):
and neither we, but we've gotto question it. Then what's the
big deal. We've had rosin behindpitches mounds forever, Guys sweat, you
use it for a re If it'snot increasing spin rate and giving you advantage,
and most of the advantages are thehitters anyway with rules because they want
more scoring in baseball, then thenwhy the rule? Why the rule with

(02:27:11):
and I welcome the rule on uh, you know, if guys are cheating,
I think, right, you know, we should call them out right
at the end of the day.I think when guys are cheating, you
can see that there's a definite advantagedata wise and and those kind of things.
And so they made a judgment call. As to the stickiness, I

(02:27:31):
think, if you get a pitcherwho sweats a lot, and you got
a rosin bag and you have thecow high which is the gloves made of
I mean you, I mean you, you may think it's sticky, you
know, And so we'll find outonce MLB conducts their investigation. But we
welcome. You know, we welcomethese investigations. We don't want guys out

(02:27:52):
there, you know, cheating orusing sticky substance or anything like that.
And so, uh, we welcomethat. We don't want anyone to have
any more advantage than we have.So ultimately we'll wait their investigation and see
what they come up with. Andone last thing about this, Dana,
because we were asked this from acaller, and I don't know the answer.
We figure, I know, theyput the glove away and go into

(02:28:15):
where the umpires are. Does thatglove get sealed and shipped off? What's
the when when we're waiting on thesuspension, what's the next part once the
game's over? What do they dowith the glove? Yeah? I think
you know, they immediately took alook at the glove, as you guys
saw, they did a brief investigation, and I guess they're gonna, you

(02:28:35):
know, ship it out and figureout there's some substance. I guess that's
what you know, what the protocolis. But but we don't know the
protocol, right, Dana. That'smy point too. You I mean,
we're kind of we we're thinking weassume they ship it off and somebody tested
someplace else. Correct, I'm thinkingthat there's some type of an investigation that's
going on and we will find outon the on if there were substance and

(02:28:58):
this suspension if it is ten games, so what do you how do you
adjust to that? How do youadjust the pitching staff? If he's out
for two starts, which that's whatit'll be. Yeah, two starts.
I mean it'll be tough because he'sbeen you know, our you know,
our best pitcher, you know,in terms of giving us innings. You
know, he's four and oh he'sgot to get earn run avitche he's posting
deep in games and so that youknow, anytime you lose that type of

(02:29:22):
production, it will be tough.So you know, we do expect or
Pd to be back here soon.You know, he'll give us some good
starts, but you know, let'shope that you know, he's not out.
So Dan, I know that stresslevels in close games are a pain
in the ass and they're not fun. But I'm a big believer that close

(02:29:45):
games sometimes and maybe all the time, build more character and know more about
your team. You learn more thanyou do when you win a game.
Nine to two, because the hellI can even play when we're winning forty
two to ten in a football game. So with that, do you all
of that belief that went in atwo to one game when you had to
grind it out and a pitcher wasejected? Do they build more character football?

(02:30:05):
I mean for your baseball team andbuild more confidence as well. Yeah,
I think it builds character, confidenceand all of that. You know,
it brings some team. You know, you have to use the entire
team in games like that, asyou saw. You know, Karatini comes
in and gets another walk off hit, So it brings the team together.

(02:30:26):
I think there's a lot of goodI mean, not good for my level,
but it's good for the team,and particularly when you come out on
the winning side of those games.I think it gives you confidence that,
look, we're moving in the rightdirection. And now with our slow start,

(02:30:48):
now that you know we're starting toheat up, you know, five
out of our last six, threein a row, you know, five
and a half back with one hundredand twenty games to go, and you're
going to play the teams that areabove you multiple times. So it gives
you, you know, some confidenceand you want to get back out there
the next day and continue to streak. But you know, these games do

(02:31:09):
breed character. You like to beon the winning side, but the stress
level is real, Yes, itis, I imagine more for you than
any of us as well. AstrosGM Dana Brown for a few more minutes
here on his weekly nine to thirtyvisit on Wednesdays. Dana, He's been
so good, but the struggles ispretty obvious right now. What's wrong with
Ryan Presley? Yeah? I meanthink about Presley's out him. He threw

(02:31:33):
a bunch of streps. He madeone mistake right, and that was the
breaking ball that he threw with aguy hit you know, a week fly
ball double down the line. Ithink if he makes that the wipeout breaking
ball, he gets out of theinning with no problem. And it goes
back to what I was talking about, you know, you know, one

(02:31:56):
week ago, two weeks ago,three weeks ago. So we we have
to get to the point where wemake that pitch right. And so if
he makes it Pressley, I've seenPressley strikeout left hand hitters often with that
hard breaking ball down back foot init, and then he's out of that
inning. There's nothing right I mean, he makes the pitch where it's a

(02:32:20):
decent breaking ball out of half,caught too much of the play. Guy
didn't even hit it well, youknow, he hit like a little looper
down the line that you know thatbounced in for a double. And so
I mean it's all about making makingthe pitch. And I have no question
that Ryan Presley will you know,we'll get out and get after it and

(02:32:43):
pitch important innings. You know.Uh So I have no problem. He's
been like that. He's a gamer, he's done it for years. He's
you know, he's done great thingsin this organization. And so I think,
you know, with one hundred andtwenty games left, imagine how well
this guy's going to turn it around. And so I'm not panicked at all.

(02:33:03):
I believe we picked them up afteryou know, he you know,
he gave up the tie. Hecalls the tie tie game and and hater
went to yep, And you knowthat's what teammates do. They tick each
other up. And you know,as I said, it was, it
was a it was a pitch thatcaught too much of the strike strike zone,
and a guy hit a blueber downthe line. You've seen this a

(02:33:24):
million times with players, and Ryan'sa with all appearances, a great team
player and moved to the eighth,you know, the eighth slot or can
close if you need him in theseventh. He's been He's been a great
teammate. But is there a psychologicalissue, Dana, you know what I'm
talking about, Whether you're in theseventh grade or in pros and you've been
around these players for a long time, is there a feeling of adjustment period

(02:33:46):
going from closer to eight and couldthere be any part of man I got
demoted. I've got to find whathappened, because hater's good. I mean
that psychological part. Get into getinto his head for a minute, or
get into ours. How that adjustmenttakes place. Yeah, I think there's
an adjustment that takes place. There'sno doubt. You know, you're used
to pitching high impact pressure innings inthe ninth and you go to the eighth,

(02:34:11):
and these are important games. Makeno mistake, every game that Ryan
Presley's in, it's an important game. It's a game where were either tied
over ahead, and so he's stillpitching high pressure innings. It's just the
pressure is a little different when you'repitching the ninth as opposed to the eighth,
and so from a psychological standpoint,I understand that part. But just

(02:34:33):
from a talent and makeup and gritstandpoint, I think he'll get through it.
I think, you know, wewe it's magnified, you know,
when you get up to a slowstart, because now you're in a new
role. I think when the whenthe smoke clears at the end of the
day, you're going to see RyanPresley with the good earn run average,
with a good strikeout rate, withthe low hits for innings, and so

(02:34:56):
I think all of that. Whenyou look on the back of the car,
as you and I talk about allthe time, you'll see Ryan Presley,
Wow, got off to a slowstart, but sure enough had a
good year, finished strong. Thenumbers are consistent was what he's been doing
in the past, and so welook for that because we know he's that
talented. Didn't you tell us thatif Alex Bregman heats up, that this

(02:35:18):
team goes. When I ask youabout leader, you unequivocally said his name.
I mean the second I finished itwas out of your mouth. And
then you said, if this guygets hot, we'll go where this guy
takes us. Pretty validated this pastweek, Huh, you're starting to see
different production from him. Absolutely,he's heating up Man and he's a grinder.

(02:35:39):
I'm telling you, I've been watchingthis guy since college, so I
really have a good feel for whatBregman could do and what he means to
the club. And sure enough,you know, he heats up, he
can carry the club. He's ourteam building guy. When we have,
you know, different things going inin the clubhouse, guys will feed off
of his energy. And when hestarts to show up, I'm telling you,

(02:36:03):
this team's going to get rolling.I feel good about where he is
right now. He's getting locked in. He's having good at bats. You
know, he's driving the ball theother way. You know, the double
the other day that tells you everythingyou need to know. You know,
the double the other day that getsover the right fielder's head, the home
run, you know, the multiplehome runs that he's in. He's locked

(02:36:24):
in right now. We want tokeep him there and as he continues to
roll. Look, this team isgoing to continue to roll. And I
feel good where we are. Thedirection, the push that we're trying to
make and with the one hundred andtwenty games left, I'm fired up real
quick. Fifteen seconds. You're doncompletely healthy, you're seeing anything different.

(02:36:46):
Yeah, I just think he's amatter. Look these these sometimes these big
power hitters that can really hit theball to all fields. You know,
they get a little streaky. Ithink he's in a street mode right now.
Once he's usually levels out and hejust continues to dominate as a hitter.
I think right now he's in thedownstreak. But I think he's on

(02:37:07):
his way back. Uh. Youknow, of course they're pitching them tough,
and every pitch it seems like,you know, it's a fastball where
they want it, that that sweeperthat they throw on the outer half.
They push him in hard with thefastball. Look, this guy could hit.
Hitters hit, and we always sayhitters hit, you know, they
just he just he's gonna hit,and so he's gonna get to the power

(02:37:31):
and he's gonna do all the goodthings we need to do. But you
know, there's some there's a pointthat sometimes when a guy gets a little
cold, you know the other guyshave to pick him up, and that's
what the teams do. But I'mnot worried one bit about your and on.
I think he's gonna be fine.There's nothing in him. He's he's
one hundred, he's still grinding,he's playing games in the outfield, he's

(02:37:52):
dhing. He's fine. It's justa matter of him. It's just a
matter of him getting hot. Andyou'll see he'll run off. You know,
seven hits and ten at bats,you know, uh, four home
runs and fifteen at bats, it'scoming. So I just feel bad for
the picture on the other end that'sgonna receive it. Oh yeah, we
said that. Yeah, he's goingto be on his way and and we're

(02:38:16):
we're not We're not panicked at all. Yeah, pity that guy. Well,
I hope the stress levels are likea nine to one win for you
tonight. But hang in there.We appreciate it. We'll see you.
Uh, we'll see you next Wednesday. Appreciate everything. Absolutely enjoyed being on
with you guys every week and uh, hanging there, actual fans, we're
coming there, you go. ThanksDan, I appreciate it, and uh,
let's do it. Appreciate it.Hey, do we need to stay

(02:38:37):
here and just end it to therest of the show, because that possible.
Uh, checked them on long too, Triple E. And we borrow
you for a second, put thatcollar on. Hold on hold real quick
because we may have to just keptday along and necessary today. All right,
tripley. How does it work ifwe just finished the show here and
cut it off early here, likein the next minute or two, will

(02:38:58):
that allow you to catch up thetop of the hour with the interview?
So we was gonna I think wejust rolled. Yeah, I think that's
a good idea, just so we'lltake it for a couple more minutes and
then make it up with Dana Brown. And he had some good stuff to
say today. So yeah, Ijust think confess my fault for asking more
questions. But guess what, sometimesyou just got to keep them a little
longer. Yeah. So I thinkone of the things that we spoke about

(02:39:20):
earlier, and I brought up thespin rates. Dana Brown made mentioned the
spin rates, and I teased itin the seven o'clock hour, and we
didn't get to it. We hadso many callers, which we enjoy every
single day. But let me getto him real quick. This is the
spin rates from last night. Sookay, so spin rate up nineteen miles
an hour on his fastball. Thereyou go. Yeah, so I guess

(02:39:41):
we'll take it. Yeah, we'lltake a break. Yeah, well we'll
take a break and get back nextThe Sean Salisbury Show continued. Great show,
guess man, Yeah, great show. I love it. Hey,
just quick spin rates yesterday for RenelBlanco, up just nineteen miles, nineteen
rpm on his forcing fastball, downthirty RPMs on his change, up plus

(02:40:03):
thirty seven on his slider, downfifty two on his curveball. So we
had two for two, four,two out of four, up barely anything
any time. And then I understandwhen I asked danon Brown said, well,
if it's not increasing spin rates,what's the advantage. And maybe for
one picture it's more advantageous than theother, just the way he holds the
grip. Who knows bottom line?Sticky subs it doesn't work, they'll review

(02:40:26):
it. But I still think there'squestions out there of what the real protocol
is posted. I'm talking about afterthe game, what don't you do with
the glove and the rest of it. Major League Baseball may need to define
that for they do I think theydo. That's going to do it for
The Sean Salisbury Show. He isSean Salisbury. Our producer is Triple Emmanuel
Elmore I and Brian Lima. Thankyou for listening. We're back tomorrow morning
at six am and Don't Go AnywhereNext up with stand Orfully Chris Cordy Coming

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