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January 2, 2025 • 11 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Shutgun with someone who's thrown from the shotgun.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Football is war hammet to hammet Sean Salisbury, Brian, you
want to see what a real football looks like.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
The Salisbury's takeout, Salisbury's takeout on the.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
It's time for the steakout.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Here on the Shawn Salisbury Show, Sean Brown at Tripoli,
Rockets take down the MAVs. Texas, Oregon, Penn State all
advanced to the college football playoffs semi finals Sugar Bowls
set to kick off today at three o'clock. Georgia and
Notre Dame in that game. All right, Sean for the steakout.

(00:57):
Let's talk about Alex Bregman. There was an article on
the Detroit Free Press that the Tigers are reportedly all
in on Alex Bregman. However, the market for Alex Bregman
has stalled. This dude to Scott boris seeking a two

(01:19):
hundred million dollars guaranteed contract. The Tigers and other teams
in the fray for Bregman do not value him at
that much money, and each day that goes by without
Bregman signing with a team lowers his value. Bregman, obviously

(01:46):
played in the league for nine years, represented by Scott Boris,
is continuing to seek two hundred million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well, then that's a problem, okay, And I don't you know,
I'd love him back here and I'd love him in
Boston if he's not going to be here. I can
tell you this though, the agent works for the player,
not the other way around. You pay the agent to
do what you want. So and why you want to
blame it on Scott Morris, and we can because that's

(02:14):
his reputation, but he's also got the reputations being the
most powerful agent in the business period. Put yourself in
the shoes, you're you're Alex Regman. Yeah, and you know
the market for you is thinning at two hundred million.
A matter of fact, it not only may be thin
and may you may not even touch it now you ring.
The longer you go, you're taking a risk that somebody's

(02:35):
going to be panicked and something's gonna say, dude, for
twenty five extra million over the course of six years,
let's go pay it?

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
You may find somebody. But you're taking the risk because
I can tell you this, if the market was big
for him, he'd got his two hundred and two ten
already already. Yeah, at that price. I'm sure there's a
lot of people love to have him at a buck
seventy okay, or a buck seventy five or a buck
sixty five. Right, I'm going to say to tell you,
I I quite frankly, why are we blaming this on

(03:02):
Scott Boris, Unless, of course you've given your attorney power
of attorney and you think that what he says is
so gold that he's making decisions for you, then that's
an Alex Bregman problem, because I know this with an agent,
he's there to give me all the facts, give me
all the numbers, negotiate on my behalf, and get the
best deal he popped me. Squeezed everything you can out

(03:25):
of a turn up, but that turnup may not be
filled with two hundred million dollars.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
I'm the player.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I pay you if Alex Bregman wants a contract done.
If it's not even says well, you know, I'm get
two hundred million, come hell or high water, okay, And
he keeps holding now, well, then that's something he's gonna
have to deal with. But I'm putting myself in that shoes.
You get to a point where I understand the ego,
but you didn't hit three twenty, you didn't hit thirty
home runs, and you did driving one hundred runs last year.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
So guess what.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Unfortunately, the market is where Chapman and the group is
in that twenty seven million range, and it's twenty five
to twenty seven and a half million, and Bregman's able
to play. And I love somebody who believes that they're
that good they're worth it, and he may very well
be worth it. But if the market says you're not
worth it, then you got to your job as a negotiator,
meaning Boris is to talk to Alex Bregman and decide, Okay,

(04:14):
here's who's bluffing, here's who's not, and here's really where
our max is. But when it gets right down to it,
if you're Alex Bregmany, say listen, I'm tired of waiting.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
I want to play in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Let's just say that's where he wants to play with
aj Hinch go there and say forget two hundred million.
Man let's go one eighty five for six and let's
go play bay and maybe they'll do it if they
say one to eighty. It's not a Scott Boris decision.
It's an Alex Bregman decision. Because if I have an
agent and he keeps doing stuff that I tell him
not to do, I'm firing him. If I have an

(04:45):
agent that comes to me, he says, here's the scenarios.
I think I can do this with this team, and
this team, here's where I think I can get him.
And he goes after it and does it, then you
gotta negotiate again. You don't want to start negotiating, get
yourself where your your pride and ego gets you down
to one, where you're back down to he started. But
that is not now. You hope that the agent's giving
him good advice. In Scott Boris's reputation, he real good

(05:07):
at this, and that's what an agent's show do is
give as much you can't for your client. But if
you're the client, you realize that Marcus not there, it
is your responsibility to say no.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Next time you go in, here's the number.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I want you to ask for, one eighty five or
one ninety or one seventy five, whatever it is. That's
the number. And here is my ceiling. I mean here,
here's my floor. But here's also what I'll take. You
can negotiate. But by the time you leave that office
with Detroit or Boston or Houston, if they if we're
if they're, the lowest sale goal in is one eighty.
When you leave, you agree to that deal. Now, if

(05:41):
it's below one eighty, come back and see me or
one eighty five, whatever the standard is. But for all
the people out there that want to blame Boris, this
is not a Boris issue. It's his agent, unless, of course,
the player says It'saul you Scott. Whatever you negotiate, I'll
believe in I was never that way because it's like
it's my career. Where deal with you're gonna make six
or eight percent or whatever Boris makes you give me

(06:04):
the facts and I'll tell you what I want, and
then you go back and tell them what I told
you to tell them, and then you put your negotiation skills.
That's the way it is. That's what you're paying for.
I just don't understand. We say, oh, that's Boris's fault,
is it?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
It?

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Is, it's Boris's fault if Bregman allows him to be
the only guy that's making the decision for Bregman, if
it's Bregman's decision, which it should be, and he says,
you know what, screw two hundred. Yeah, I'll go to
Detroit for one eighty eight or one ninety, and Boris
is saying, no, dude, we're gonna fold out for two hundred.
If I bag I say no one ninety, or you

(06:37):
can go find another client. So it's when we all
blame always blame it on the agent.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
It's the player. The player makes this decision.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
So if you're tired of being stuck in purgatory, then
you better lower your damn asking price and tell Boris
that this is your asking price, and here's what you'll
settle for. If you're holding out for two hundred million,
then you're playing. Then you're risking a little bit where
you're gonna end up.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
We're nearly sixty days into free agency and the number
of potentially interested teams in Alex Bregman continues to dwindle.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Well.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
It's Tigers and Red Sox are reportedly, according to this article,
some of the only two teams that are interested.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
And if you're those two teams, aren't you getting to
a point where you're like, listen, man, if you'll take
one seventy, will take him every day that goes down.
You know what I'd do is a is a business decision.
I'm thinking in the front office thinking we're not negotiating
against anybody. Yeah, so why would I give him what
he wants? We hold the cards now, right, So oh
it was one eighty five yesterday, Offer him one seventy
five and tell him it's our last offer. At some

(07:42):
point in time, he's gonna have to make a decision.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
He just is.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
And that's that's the player's decision, not the agent. If
you're doing it the right way. The agent works for me,
I don't work for him.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
So it says in this article forty five days until
spring training, the door is wide open for the tie
and red socks, especially with Bregman's market continuing to decrease.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
So, hey, eventually you'll be negotiating and get your cell
against yourself because they're gonna have to go because these
guys eventually are going to go say, well, you know what,
we got a plan, Like we're moving on without Bregman
at third base, and the Astros are facing that as
we sit here and speak. But if Alex Bregman wants
it done, it's not Scott at the right price. It's
it's Alex Bregman who's gonna have to tell Scott Morris

(08:27):
to negotiate this number. I'm willing to move off this number. Yeah,
But if they're both dead set on two hundred million
or bust, well it may be a while or somebody
who's who panics and says we can't lose Bregman. Give
him the extra ten million a year. He's gonna end
up the ten million over for six years.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
He's going to end up.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Signing somewhere for twenty six million a year and twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Million macs out at twenty seven twenty seven a half
if he's lucky.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, so it'll basically be what the Astro's offer him,
but he'll do it somewhere.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I almost feel like that door's closed here. It is,
even though it may be the same price. Like I mean,
is everybody who's decided, well, I'm not an Astro and
we don't want him back?

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah? Are we at that point?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I don't think for us well, like meaning us.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
You know, and you and I.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
But I mean the organization ization already made their last
offer and they're done.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I mean, if Bregnant went back and say, they're offering
me one seventy five, you guys match it?

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Do you think they do it? No?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I think they would say no, thanks for your time, right, agreed.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
It's I mean, and that's only ten million more over
six years, right offered him for six that would be
twenty six years.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, I think they're done.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Like yeah, and even if they if he came back
and said I got one seventy five, well, they're not
going from one fifty six to one eighty.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
No at this stage, this lake stage now, because you
know what that'll tell them.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
You know why he's coming back to us.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, because it's at a suitor. Yeah, exactly, doesn't have
anybody that's right, so.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Here he is.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
You've got to be careful not to cut off your
nose despite your face in these situations.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Trust me, I know, on a lesser cause.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
For me, the reason why I can speak to this
on a much lesser amount of money but significant. At
the time I played in a starting role. I did
just that hell hell out for one day too long
and they signed somebody else, and it cost me a
starting job, and at that point in time, a starter salary.
And I can tell you when Brian billk and I

(10:09):
had the conversation and I waited, I said, now you
know what I saw with Scott Mitchell and ar Kramer,
those were my us three were kind of guys going
around at the same team, right, and Minnesota had offered
it and said got about forty eight hours to make decision.
I called their bluff and forty eight hours add another quarterback.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I went back. But it was not that that salary
as the starter And so I'm speaking from a lot
less money, but it's all relative to me.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
It was huge money at that point in time.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Right, But a little pride and ego said you can't
pay you know, you get to that point where you say,
I put in there, whether there you are or not,
that's your you know, the pride and ego does' get
in the way. Yeah, And I cut off my nose
to spike my face and it cost me money and
going into campus the guy as opposed to having to
chase the guy. Yeah, and I saw I lived it
and it was my fault because I call I waited

(11:01):
one extra day too long, and at that point in
time said love to have you, but it's now, it's different,
and Brian told me it was gonna be different. I
didn't buy it. Tam happened to me cold. It's a
cold slap in the face. Now you gotta back and
drawing board, keep competing for and the other two guys
had just signed and they were at two places that
I'd visited.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Damn, yep, damn. I guess uh that's a harsh way
to learn.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Huh uh. Experience can be a bitch, brother. It could
work for you in the long run. But at that time,
I was like, oh hell oh yeah, yeah, there's no doubt.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Brother man.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
All right, let's continue this discussion. And as we move
along right here on seven ninety
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