Joe Espada Astros New Manager, Dana Brown Talks Off-season Agenda, CJ Stroud MVP Candidate?

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Episode Transcript

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Salsbury, Albury, Salisbury, Houston. Okay, let's do this. Shawn
Salisbury, Reporter Salberry LUNKSI friend JohnSalisbury, Ryan La Lima Lobos to the
shop. This is the Shawn SalisburyShow. Good morning, Houston. Welcome

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in to the Shawn Salisbury Show.Here on Sports Talk seven ninety Shawn Salisbury,
Brian Lima, Emanuel Elmore, JoeAspatta officially the new manager of the
Houston Astros. We're gonna have generalmanager. Dana Brown joined the show at
eight thirty this morning. Corbyn CarrolGunner Henderson win the NL and AL Rookie
of the Year in Major League Baseball, both of those unanimous votes. Ugly

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game on Monday night football, Broncosbeat the Bills. Josh Allen did not
play well and they lose to theBroncos. Some ugly football. Sean here
in the NFL, what is thedifference between and I don't mean this,
they're not playing well. I thoughtKirk Cousins was playing well. But what's
the difference between Alan Cousins, PrescottGaroppolo, Alan Prescott Garoppolo, Herbert,

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what's the difference? Aren't they allthe same guys? They're pretty much all
the same guy. I mean it'sand I know you'll say, well,
a lot of league is like that. Weeah, well, there's a difference
I Burrows. I'd put Burrow aheadof them, I put Mahomes ahead of
them, and the way they're playingthis year, C. J. Stroud
belongs ahead of all of them,including the way they're playing Joe Burrow,

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And you can tell me what youwant, but he's still pay eight picks.
He's having a better year than PatrickMahomes is. Yeah, so Lamar's
in the conversation, but he didnot play well at the end of the
second half in that game this pastweekend against Cleveland, and his numbers are
not aren't near as god he asStrouds are so really good. But Stroud

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leads in so many categories and heplays better. I mean, he's he's
through the roof when they're behind.The guy doesn't. The guy does not
throw picks when they're playing catch upeither, so and you're normally that's a
force the ball time. So forme, I don't know what the difference
is those guys are. I mean, we do it because the talent and
potential, but I mean, what'sAllen five six years in the league.

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Yeah, people were, people werethey're crushing Lamar Jackson for not being in
a Super Bowl. I hear people. I'll tell yeah, but he hasn't
won that game. Well has thisguy? And he's so gifted. I
think Josh Allen's a great player,but he has not been a great performer.
And he's quite frankly, in clutchsituations other than the Kansas City game
that we saw a couple of yearsggoing in the playoffs. Now he's done

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it many times. That's the problem. He'll he'll throw for three point fifty
and go twenty five twenty eight ina game and four touchdowns no picks.
In the next week, You'll say, this is not the same guy.
And the great players don't have theebbs and flows, the ups and downs,
the blatant ups and downs. Theyhave a down once in a while,
most of it's up and most ofthem are having around pretty good all
the time. I think Allen's anenormous talent. I think Josh Allen is

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Justin Herbert. Who's Dak Prescott,Who's Kirk Cousins, who's probably Jared Goff.
They're the same guy. They're notthe They are not their elite talent,
but they're elite performers on a regularweekly basis. They underachieve at times,
and they don't elevate their team incertain situations. Love Josh Allen,

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but you can no longer put JoshAllen. Two years ago people were saying
he may be the best quarterback inthe league. And that's even with Mahomes
in that battle he won one two. No, I can find four or
five guys right now that are better. Yeah, Josh Allen last night,
fifteen to twenty six hundred and seventyseven yard than two interceptions. Not good
enough, not good enough, notgood enough. And boy, the Denver
Broncos, you tried to screw itup and twelve men on the field,

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Buffalo did screw it up. Howteams find ways to do this is absolutely
beyond You're on the you're on thefield goal team. How how just explain
to me how when they say fieldgoal team, twelve guys are out there.
If you're the backup, you're noton the field unless you're told that
the guy in front of you ishurt. Why what are you that low

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football IQ in that situation that youcannot do you realize, hey, all
eleven of our starting, our numberone field goal block team are healthy and
they're out there and tell a coachcomes up and taps you and says,
hey, uh, you're in ifif we go field goal block, you're
your defensive tackle, you're number one'sdown. You've got to go. You're

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in a lot of that. Youstay your ass on the sidelines. I
don't know how this happens. Ihonestly, God, do not have any
idea how this kind of stuff happened. It's well, Sean, it happened.
No, there's certain things you controlthat can't happen. When's the last
time you saw the back up quarterbackrun out there for the starter when the
starter was standing on the sidelines gettingto play from the coin and getting ready
to go in. You don't orwas already in the huddle, he ran

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in there. I don't understand.How do you do that? That is
just low IQ, that's just dumb. See to me, if you're the
guy who stayed out there at twelveand was not told to leave, and
you're the twelfth guy, I wouldconsider, if you're just a guy,
I would consider wondering if maybe thisisn't for you, Oh, Shawn,

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a mistake. I didn't say aphysical mistake. I didn't say you missed
a field goal on a physical kick. I didn't say you had a chance
to block when I missed it.This is just simply understanding, understanding the
mechanics that you practice on all week, and literally you cost yourself a game.
Whether it's the special teams coach youscrewed up and didn't say, oh,
the number one guy's back in andthey didn't communicate that, then that's

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on him. But if you knewthat all eleven were still healthy and going
out there to run, how doyou get left out on the field.
It's the bonehead, It's dumb bonehead, it's low IQ stupidity. I don't
know who the which one was supposedto be on and off, But whoever
did not communicate that that stuff thatcould be controlled, and that's just lack

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of football preparation, simple, simple, and you cannot win. I'll tell
you what you can't win with stupidwith with low IQ football players, you
just can't. So whoever it was, and I really don't care who it
was, the bottom line, ifit's a special teams coach, and his
asso had a cleat right up hisright up his ass. If it's the
player and the guys were out thereand you're the backup defensive tackle and you

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weren't supposed to be on the field, but you just decided to run out
there because well, you want torun out there, your ass may be
on the next bus out of townbecause now you're five and four and you're
chasing the playoffs. Now, justdumb. That's not the only reason.
But pass interference and underthrow by RussWilson gets PI call boyd Denver step into

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a pile of crap and come outsmelling like a rose like that. So
yeah, I just my tolerance isis more and more. It is not
hard. If you can't count totwelve, maybe you should find a new
profession. I don't care who itis. If you can't count to twelve
and understand your role. And Iwould imagine if you're the backup on the

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twelve on that you're the twelfth guy. I would imagine that you haven't started.
You weren't. You didn't get sixtysnaps in the game. Now,
and if you are the starter onthe field, why the hell would you
even think you had to run outthere on the field. If you were
in the backup and nobody told youyour guy shirt, if somebody doesn't tap

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you on the shoulder and tell youyour guys hurt, your ass should not
be on that field. Don't guesscount and ask. It's just and it
cost him. It's just absolutely well. Sean Is said, yeah, yeah,
it's low IQ football, And Iwould con I would have to con
consider what times that bust leave forthat guy can't count. Yeah, it's

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just dumb. It's just dumb.Drives me freaking crazy. They're hard enough
to win. How it is hardenough to win. How it's get your
ass kicked and fight the whole game. And some dude thinks, let me
just run out of here and adda twelfth guy. And then they make
the field goal. Of course theymade the second field goal. Of course
they made the second field I gotzero compassion for stupidity on a football field,
I really do. So what's goingto be the quarterback conversation today in

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that game? No, just allthroughout throughout the league, because Josh Allen,
for whatever reason, is still hisname continues to be when you talk
about the best quarterbacks in this league. He's always mentioned for whatever reason,
even though he leads the league ininterceptions. Well, I'll tell you what,
and I'm saying with CJ. Stroudinvolved, Oh yeah, he is
one of the best quarterbacks in theleague. Yeah, inconsistently, and he

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is one of the most dynamic playersin the league. But he's not one
of the there's difference to me tobe one of the most talented quarterbacks in
the league and a really damn goodplayer. But he put it this way,
the hype exceeds the performance in certaingames, and you can't have that
with that guy. He's too He'stoo talented to be It should start to

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believe that the talk should be extremelytalented with as much abilities in by the
league that needs to reach that abilitymore often. As far as c J.
Stroud goes, like I said,go ahead and convince me, call
in, text me, it boxme, cuss me. Whatever you want

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your quarterback in your city in thisleague right now. And I don't give
a rats ass if it's in Baltimore, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Dallas,
Buffalo, Detroit, you go aheadand scan anybody you want in this country
right now, Miami, and ifyour quarterback's playing better than the guy in

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this town. Screw the rookie thing, you could throw that out the window.
He playing like all you eight yearveterans are supposed to play. If
you're in your city, think yourquarterback's playing better than this one. All
of it on the table, yourquarterback in your city right now, if
your eyes get your eyes focused hereto Houston, because right now, the

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guy playing the best at this positionin football, where's number seven in place?
Here in Houston. He's playing betterthan your quarterback, period, no
matter where you are. Yeah,I'm talking to you too, Washington.
I understand your quarterback's got a lotof yards. He ain't playing better than
this guy. Okay, take everythinginto account. And quite frankly, I'm
not even sure it's not any I'mnot even sure it's a hard vote.

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Right now, who the MVP ofthe league is, that's honest to god
truth. Where they were supposed tobe and where they are. Now,
why is this a hard thought process? Fifteen verses two. I'm just telling
you if the narrative, look,we'll talk Russell Wilson's back because he completed
twenty two. I mean, hehad a good game last night, solid,
protects the ball I'm talking about,plays it safe and stuff. Russell

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Wilson will never be Seattle. RusseWilson. He's playing better football this year,
and he should. Sean Payton's abetter coach than the guy he had
beforehand in Hackett. But I'm listenwhen you go numbers, clutch Winn.
He mikes the throws when he playswell, plays better under duress right now
than anybody in the league. He'sas aggressive as anybody in the league.
Find me a reason that he's notthe most Well, they're five and four.

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Yeah, he's why he's the MVPin the league. He's the most
ivy player in the league right now. I thought of I said, oh,
is he third Lamar? What's Lomardoing better than him? Other than
their team's better and they should havea better record by two games. That
is it by two So you knowwhat you'd go ahead, Well, we

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can always say Mahomes and we canalways say Burrow. Mahomes is throwing eight
picks this year. I believe turnit over too much. Well, he
throws more, Yeah, but healso nobody plays underneath sideways bubble screen screen
game. Now, nobody's more spectacularthan Mahomes. He's the best in the
league. Sure overall, if youwere going to start your franchise for the
next five years, he or Borrowwud be two guys you'd take. But

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nobody plays more. I mean it'scrazy because they play safe football a lot
of times and then he bails you. He does some stuff that the normal
human can't do. I mean Mahomes, but they're not as aggressive as this
team is on a continuous basis.Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts both have thrown
eight picks. That's the only otherguy in my mind, and hurts his
turn. That's why he can't bethe MV. I just about to say

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a great team, hell of aplayer should be in the conversation. He
right now is not the MVP.He's not. They throw more here and
he throws less interceptions and average moreyards per attempt unless something changed over the
weekend that I didn't see. Nofor Jalen Hurts average seven point seven.

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You look at let me forgot.You got to go all the way to
the bottom because he j Strout hasonly thrown two picks eight point three,
so he wins every can and histeam. If he was on Philly,
would they still have the same record? The answers yes. And if Jalen
Hurts was here, would they probablystill be five and four? The answers
yes. The only other quarterbacks thatare ahead of c J. Stroud yards
per attempt Rock Party into a tongueof I Loo and Purdy showed up.

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But and they're both kind. They'vebeen in the conversation this year at different
times for MVP. Stroud's doing more. I'm playing better. From a pure
number standpoint, c J. Stroudis leading the MVP conversation. You know
who's number two? Rock Party?Yeah, well, a pure number standpoint.
But when I say that, peopletrip out, Oh no, what
system quarterback? Yeah? And thestigma for him is he was if he

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was a second right, if hewas picked like fifth in the draft instead
of the last pick of the draft. Yeah, everybody was saying the forty
nine ers got themselves a superstar.They don't like the optics of the last
guy. He's supposed to not begood. When's the wheels gonna fall off?
Well, you know what doesn't alwayswork? Trey Lance doesn't always work
for guys, and it doesn't alwayswork for Baker Mayfield. He's playing better
this year, but it doesn't alwayswork. C J. Stroud getting a

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lot of national at ten shots working. Right, there's a former player that
says he might be former player andcoach that says he might be the best
rookie. Qb Ever. Let's hearthat audio discussing next on Sports Talk seven
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Houston six. This is Sports Talkseven nights because right now you see light

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on Houston. Right now. Backto Sean Salisbury, maybe I got a
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So wow. Joe Spotta officially thenew manager of the Houston Astros.
He was introduced to yesterday at MinimaPark. We're gonna have Dana Brown,
the general manager of the Astros,join us at eight thirty this morning.
Corbyn Carroll, Gunnar Henderson wins NLand AL Rookie of the Year in Major

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League Baseball, both of those unanimous. BRONC goes beat the Bills in Monday
Night Football. We're talking CJ.Stroud and the MVP race. Mike Martz,
former coach in the NFL had somehigh praise for CJ. Stroud,
and this is what coach Martz hadto say, But just and watched him
on this football team and just evaluateand everything that you evaluated quarterback over.

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I've never seen anything like him,Not Brady, not not anybody. I've
never seen anybody like CJ. Stroud. I mean, the coach for forty
years and retired here a little bitand see my time in football. I've
never seen a rookie quarterback play atthis level had this kind of control to
standing there in his courage. Hewaits and waits and waits, and we'll

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stand in and make throws when otherguys are going panic can get out of
there. He just has such awarenessand he's just so cool. And then
is just as kill level is justoff the charts. Quickness of delivery,
accuracy, arm strength, all thechange up. He lays one in there
down the sideline and they'll throw ashot in there. Yeah, he's got

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everything. He does everything modest,humble guys love him. I mean,
he's when you sit down paper andsay this is what you're like in a
quarterback. That's that's what he is. He's as best when things are at
their worst. I just like Isaid, for a young guy to play
like this, I'm just done findI think one of the best things that

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Mike Martin said in that audio pieceis he's the best when they're at their
worst. That's where it's easy.Like I always say, easy to play
when you're winning by four touchdowns,I can find anybody do that. I
can take a college kid who's abackup. If you're winning by four touchdowns
in an NFL game, He'll finda way to He will find a way

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to get it done. You know, I mean it. It becomes a
pretty easy game when you're winning andhammering people and they got no way to
stop you. Yeah, becomes fairlyeasy. And it's not an easy game.
But Mike Martz is well people,when you say this, here's what
some of the boneheads in the worldthink. Oh, he's not better than
Tom Brady. Brady's got ten SuperBowl appearances and seven wins. Well,

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you dumbass. Nobody said he wasbetter than Brady. But as a rookie,
Brady couldn't hold his nuts. Andthat's the greatest of all time.
So we're going by nine games intoa career. There Mike Martz is not
lying. Show me where the lieis now. The lie is when you
tell me or the BS hot takeis when you tell me the guy's just

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not talented enough and then two monthslater tell me he's he's the newest of
a great quarterback. I just Ijust sent audios say this is one hundred
and eight degrees different. But I'lltell you that that he thought he was
a great player all the time.I'm sure. So that that's where it's
like, really where I can't takeit serious, Mike Martz. You know,

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as long as he's coached it andwatched it, and he's coached Kurt
Warner and Trent Green and Mark Bulgerand the list goes on and on of
great players he's coached. He simplysaid as a rookie, he's the best
he's ever seen. He didn't saythe best you've ever seen. He says
the best he's ever seen. Andhe's right in my mind. I got
it up close and personal. Lookat Marino as a rookie, and he

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could throw it, but he stilldidn't play better. And c J.
Stroud moves better than Dan did.And Andrew Luck had a good start to
a career. Justin Herbert had areally good start to a career, and
I know now Mart's love. I'vetalked to Mike matter of fact less last
fall or late later. It mighteven been in the spring, but last

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fall on another show, I talkedto Mike, and I've known him forever.
Then we have him on. Mike'sbeen on our show here, I've
been on it. I had himon this show and another show I did.
That's exactly did come on. Ithink if I I think I asked
him. I think he said he'dstart with Herbert. I think he was
a big Herbert fan, and hedid have him on, and I remember
him specifically talking about Justin. Ithink I said, why would you choose

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start if five anything Herbert? Heloves big, physical, high IQ stand
in there and deliver and make throwswhen it's going on crap. And no
coach that I've ever been around inthe history of football, that's a lot
that I've been around or talked to. Guys, Nobody's been tougher on quarterbacks
on a daily basis than Mike Martz. And if you can't handle Mike's rath,

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you can't play, because that's howMike Is was always I mean,
he asked Warner and Bulger and TrentGreen. He'll tell you the same thing,
you know, if you get throughMike March's defenses are easy and Mike
love And I'm trying to find theweakness in c J. Stroud. If
you can find it, call me. I remember when we had him April
of this year. I'm sorry,May first of this year, post draft,

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and uh, I remember him becauseone of the things that you mentioned
was big physicality of a quarterback andit was post draft, and I remember
him mentioning Justin Herbert because he likesthe big physical guy who was accurate and
got athleticism. Yeah, and heuh. Because of course the comparison was
do you take Bryce Young or doyou take c J. Stroud? Because
Bryce Young's a little bit smaller,likes a bigger guy. Right. I

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knew, I knew we had himon recently and Mike is and so I'm
just trying to figure out. Yougot to tell me where the weakness is.
If you can find it, letme know. Now, Like I
said, don't start trading people.Here's another thing. People will say,
oh, did you watch him playlast week? If he has one of
those games. Yeah, it's calledfootball, and it's all called called competition
in sports, and the other guy'sgoing to beat you once in a while,

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just like at every one of ourjobs. You go in in some
days you get your ass handed toyou at work for whatever reason. And
as good as Burrow was playing untilhe broke his leg as a rookie,
c J. Stroud is having abetter year than he was doesn't mean he's
gonna have a better career, andhe may very well have a better career.
Alls we can go is is bodyof work we've seen compare and that's

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data. We've watched it, andsome of it's objective, some of its
subjective. You watch it and youjust say, okay, it's not hyperbolic.
I'm just going nine games in findme better. And I don't know
if there's a lot of argument,honestly, and I can tell you now
I still don't think there's a lotof argument who's playing better football than him
in this league right now. Theonly argument that we're going to get is

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because of the team. Well meaning, oh that should work in his favor,
I know, I know. Butthe argument from national side of things,
the national side of things prefers youto click and argue with them over
something more than they argue with themmore than they do. Just tell the
simple facts. It's okay to givecredit where it's okay, even if you've
got to give three guys in arow credit, You don't have to.

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Everything's not about a hot take,just it's the facts are CJ. Stroud
is better than most thought he'd be. And it's hard for people to sit
back and say this is the MVPof the league right now because he's a
rookie, But he is because fiveand four on this team is seven and
two in Baltimore is eight and onein Philadelphia. Yeah it is. Yeah,

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that's the difference in talent level acrossthe board. But I can tell
you what they better enjoy it becauseif this guy actually really learns how to
play, which he will just becausehe's young and a rookie, and the
game will even slow down more forhim and his talent's through the roof and
when they continue to build players,because in about two years from now,
he's going to be Hell, asare the Texans. They're already Hell.
You don't want play him right now? And this dude is different, and

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that's the best way to describe him. Let's go back to August eighth,
Colin Coward had some things to sayabout C. J. Stroud and the
Houston Texans, and he completely changedtune yesterday. Let's hear that audio and
discuss next right here on the ShawnSalisbury Show. From the Top Tax Defenders
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the new manager of the Houston Astros. He was introduced yesterday at min to
May Park. We're gonna have DanaBrown join us at eight thirty this morning.
Astros GM Broncos beat the Bills onMonday Night Football. We're talking Houston
Texans and c J. Stroud.Back on August eighth, Colin Coward talked
about c J. Stroud. Itwas announced at that point that c J.

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Stroud was going to start the preseasonopener against the Patriots. And this
is what Colin Coward had to sayback on August eighth. And then there's
c J. Stroud, rookie defensivehead coach, rookie offensive coordinator, weird
owner, below average roster like notonly he's not talented enough to overcome that.

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Okay, that was on August eighth. Well, here is Colin Coward
yesterday talking about c J. Stroud. He is the anti Mac Jones.
He's the anti Zach Wilson. Thebig winner is not just the Houston Texans
or c J. Stroud. Anotherbig winner is the NFL. We have

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another great quarterback. Oh man,that tune changed quick, didn't it?
Seawan two months and he's we haveanother great quarterback it listen. I you
know, I like Colin Coward.I think he's a very very clever guy
and smart. He knows how totoy with the audience and knows how to
get it. But when he saidthat, it made you think that he's

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been riding c J. Strouds andis I mean, he's a great playoff
to team and only he's not gonnago back and say, man, I
made a mistake on this one thatyou're never going to see that. And
it's okay. People make mistakes onevaluations. I don't care if he got
that wrong. We all have.Yeah. Hell, I thought Kyler Murray
would come out and be a betterplay and he started out. You're like,
this guy's gonna be a star inthe league because he's been an MVPAK
guy comes back, plays well thisweek, but then when you find out

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he doesn't study and you see theresults and he's an eye guy, it's
like, no, you were hopingthat stuff didn't rear its head. Maybe
it'll change after this. Injuries addedperspective to him. So we get things
wrong, we do. That's okay. Evaluating that position is hard to do,
or any position. It's when yousay and stare into that camera and
say he's just not talented enough,and then two months later coming and say,

(28:30):
it's not just the Texans winner,the NFL wins because you've got another
great quarterback. Now you talk aboutextreme see what that's the problem with some
of the national and that's something alot of them. I listen. I
may be a critic, and Ithink when the when the guys are good,
Greg Olsen, let it rip tellhim. I think some guy Dan

(28:52):
Orlowski's good as an x as anO's guy. I think a lot of
guys too much hyberbally. And there'sa lot of guys that if you wanted
how good they are, as yougot to do is ask him on TV.
Right, But they'll say stuff toget your to get get a reaction.
We got more guys now that areless prepared than I've ever seen.
Well, you think football's bad,you're on your TV. There's some really
great ones on television and radio,great ones, and then there's some good

(29:15):
ones, and there's there's some thatare They talk about some of these players
being highly overpaid. There are someguys on TV ste I'm talking about stealing
money that need to go in andpick it up on their direct deposit.
And you don't even need to pickit up with the friggin' mask on.
Okay, I'm not saying Colin.Colin Coward's an outstanding broadcaster, one of
the best. We got some ofhis predictions and thought process and analysis probably

(29:38):
not his strength. Get Joel Klatton and let him talk about it,
right, But when it comes tooverall, when I see that, that's
why you got to take it.And then somebody says, well didn't you
hear what this guy said? Man, he really loves him, So you
don't mistake hot take for skilled analyst. Okay, anybody can go on and
say crap. Can you go onand dive deep and tell me, well,

(29:59):
that's why I, oh, really, well, show me in that
second quarter on that series, walkme through it. Well, I oh,
oh, oh, okay, Iget it. So I just that's
why you think some games will makeyou throw up in your mouth, turn
on your TV, turn on yourTV, or turn on a national radio
show. At times you want tothrow up in your mouth on some analysis,

(30:22):
and then you think there's no waythat guy can be dumb enough to
believe this when you're talking about somebodysaying it. So, yeah, I
love the extremes. Just sit tomore in the little Hey. Now,
if you just said I don't knowif he's talented enough to overcome this roster,
I buy that. I buy thatone because a lot of people felt
that I wasn't sure any of us. I don't think that is any quarterback

(30:45):
to impact a roster nine games inlike this. This soon maybe one of
the rosters better than we thought,and that Lovey Smith's approach and David Cully's
approach actually minimize that group instead ofmaximized it. And then Debiko Ryans did
it because they've had a lot ofnew players, but in essence, some
of the core of the team's stillsimilar. Yeah, so maybe and if
coaching didn't matter, maybe just maybeJoe the David Cully and Lovey Smith.

(31:08):
Even though you've been in football fora while, things change. Guess what.
Maybe they held the roster down andthe assistant coach is supposed to somebody
just come in and say, no, no, this roster's better than you
guys give a credit for and we'regoing to show you. Bam. So
I don't think anybody thought. Listen, there's no way you could have made
the prediction. CJ. Stroud's gonnatake the Texans. He'll be five and
four, nine games in and he'llbe the MVP of the league. There's

(31:30):
nobody who thought that. Anybody whodid, not even Ryan Day He's a
liar, right, Okay, sothat did Nobody thought that. Yet maybe
CJ. Stroud did, and that'swhy he's this good. But if you
remember, there was talk, wellis he going to win the job in
camp? You knew from mini campand OTAC was winning the job, right,
So I just am fascinated by everything'snot extreme. You can live in

(31:52):
the middle until you I mean,not sit on the fence, but live
in the middle of No, he'sgot all that He's got all the throwing
gifts on the planet, but canhe overcome a roster that's not supposed to
win this year? Then I'm allin on it. Two things can be
true. C J. Stroud istalented enough, but yet can he be
that talented to overcome this roster?If Colin Coward, like you said,
if Colin Coward has said that,I would be like, you know what,

(32:14):
that's probably right, great analysis.Yeah, that's probably good because in
truth, very few people are talentedenough to walk into a three twelve,
three thirteen and one team and changeit around and turn it into a potential
playoff team and be the MVP ofthe league nine games in. I don't
know many that can do it.No, so that's fair. But to

(32:35):
tell me, after you've watched hisnumbers in college and the way he throws
the football one thing you should notbe shocked of. I can take you
back and to watch Walkie through everysingle game at Ohio State University and say,
at some point throughout most of thegame, this dude flat out rips
it and actually the NFL offenses seemto fit him better. Yeah, this

(32:59):
one does. So, Yeah,it's it's some of the and sometimes you
just sit back and laugh at someof the analysis because Colin's brilliant at it.
Now he'll have the world thinking thatif you didn't hear the first time
that he loves C. J.Stroud for the Get Game. Part of
his brilliance, it really is.It is. It is because I saw
the audio last night that came outand I was like, oh, yeah,
we got to talk about that.So he's doing what he's supposed to
do. He gets us talking aboutit. He's doing That's why I tell

(33:21):
you about how clever he is.Colin Cower clever, knows the mechanics of
this business and what how to drawyour ire as good as anybody. He's
brilliant. I don't agree with thistake sometimes and I know, damn well,
he's a smart, very smart guy, dude. And then Adam what's
his name is a McIntyre that thatJason, Jason mcintylo sits in there with
him. We are at a timenow when at Texas A and M giving

(33:42):
his speech this past week and someof them open questions. Somebody asked,
what's the biggest thing that do yousee as a problem? Rolling forward the
media, we are in such ahurry. The hot takes things obvious.
We are in such a hurry toget it first, as opposed to get
it right. It's killing sports andkilling it is when he said killing,
it's like get it first, whetherit's accusing somebody of something, whether it's

(34:04):
this guy's getting drafts. He doesn't, Oh, this guy's getting traded.
Were the people? And I understandthe insiders didn't have to do it,
like like woes and stuff, Butthat's there. That's why they get paid
ten million bucks a year. Butwhen it comes to it, we in
anything. Let's be first, Let'sbe first. Let's be first, And
a lot of times you're not right. And that's why I don't. I
really don't care about being first.Give me the person, give me the

(34:25):
tortoise or the rat, the hair, right, you tell me that that.
Hey, you can jump out thereand be first, but at the
very end, that damn thing maymay beat you to the finish line.
Yeah, so it's out there.But yeah, Colin knows what he's doing.
Oh yeah, and he gets ofcourse, every you're gonna get eighty
shows this morning across the country.Bringing that up right, I'll just say

(34:45):
this to you, I'm glad wedrafted him. We said you should have
drafted him. Nobody knew he wasgoing to be this good, this fast,
and he's the MVP in football rightnow. Period. Let's get to
a quick call before we go tobreak. Let's go to Marcus Marcus.
Good morning, Good morning. Iwanted to say, even though the MVP
a quarterback award, I think it'sboor so the fact that he's not getting

(35:08):
stabish face of the league, andthey mostly preserve that awards the faces of
the league. They don't want towater down their award by giving it to
a rookie. Ask to someone who'sbeen in the league five plus years like
Pat Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers, andI want to teach you guys to take
a look at I thank you,Marcus Marcus. I don't think you're wrong

(35:28):
about that the face of the league, but I think that what this does
shakes up the face of the league. We need another one, not the
face of it Mahomes, Burrow,those guys are still going to be those
guys in a matter of about amonth. Look what just just by the
pub and he's the best tight endin football pass catching, both Kelsey brothers

(35:51):
are on more commercials. You cansee straight with them. Oh yeah.
And Travis as good as he was, Dude, He's on everything. He's
now got himself with the State Farmthing with Mahomes. He's now aside from
the vax shot, I mean everywhereI look, and he's doing financial Oh
you, they're the tick whatever itis. He's doing everything. And I
just saw now Kelsey and two otherguys his brother is in a Tide commercial

(36:14):
now overnight that a new one pointis is that how you affiliate yourself ain't
stupid. Okay, So he's becomingone of the faces of the league.
And Taylor Swift doesn't hurt, rightbecause everything they do, but in this
case too, and Marcus is right. We do love faces in the league,
but we're always looking for the nextface that we can jump in there.

(36:34):
I'm just gonna tell you this,and I'll say it right now.
If they make the playoffs and theway these quarterbacks are playing continue like they
are now, if this team andhe goes the next week and goes thirty
and four thirty touchdowns against four picksand throws for forty five hundred yards and
they make the playoffs. If he'snot the MVP on this team, don't

(36:57):
tell me Philadelphia or Kansas City.They're both on better teams unless Hurts throws
for fifty four hundred yards and fortytouchdowns or Mahomes gets on a roll and
throse five touchdowns eight straight weeks.If this continues like this, Philly wins
their division at home field advantage,Kansas City's got home field in the AFC,
and the Texans win the division ormake the playoffs, and he's thirty
touchdowns against four picks. I'm justgoing to tell you now, if they

(37:19):
don't give him the MVP, consideringall the circumstances of elevating your team and
all of it, then the NFLgot it wrong. So Marcus, you're
right they We're reluctant. We loveour best players to keep winning those awards.
But I can tell you this,why not see j Stroud. We
are looking for the next Joe Burrow, and guess what we got him.
He's sitting right here and we arein Houston with him. Two of the

(37:42):
best ten stars in sports right now, young stars and sports reside in this
city. Jordan Alvarez and this duderight here honestly, go through, go
through all four major sports, andguys that have been in the league with
five majors five years or less,yeah, earlier that are twenty six or
twenty seven, and under Stroud's inthe top. He's one of the five

(38:07):
best. And yourd On Alvarez mayvery well be the best. He's arguably
the best hitter in base right.So, and we got two of them
right here in the city. It'scrazy to think about two of them.
Wow in their respect us. Well, that's that's pretty impressive. Yah,
that is pretty impressive. Another thingthat's impressive, CJ. Stroud. He
talked to Tom Brady on a podcastyesterday and he talked about his mindset every

(38:28):
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(40:59):
Carroll Henderson winning NL and AL Rookieof the Year, both of those choices
unanimous. Broncos beat the Bills inMonday Night Football. Continuing to talk about
c J. Stroud in the impressiveseason he has so far, He was
on a podcast with the best quarterback, greatest quarterback of all time, Tom
Brady, and he talked about themindset that he carries with himself every single

(41:27):
game, and this is what cJ. Stroud said to Tom Brady,
Hey, what kind of expectations didyou have going into the year for yourself?
You know it's like a big jump, but how are you feeling about
where you were at going into theseason. Honestly, I came in with
the one and know him in tality. Like I know, kind of sounds
cliche, my Coss Ryan Day.He would always tell me like, don't
ever go into a game having expectations. Don't want to throw for a ceremony

(41:50):
of ours, don't want to throwfor a certamount of testdown. So the
play each play like it's your last. That's been really huge because like every
game in the NFL, he getsharder and harder and harder. And college
wasn't like that for me. Itwas like we played Penn State and then
we played a lesser team, youknow, so you can kind of not
in a sense take the week offin the NFL. It's not that.

(42:14):
And that's c J. Stroud.That was on the Let's Go podcast with
Tom Brady, Larir Fitzgerald and JimGray. The one and zero mindset Sean
as a quarterback and you know youhit on it earlier this hour. Playing
in the NFL is hard, regardlessof if it's the worst team or not.
Like these are grown ass men.This is in college. And again
I think it's what c J.Stroud alluded to is in the Big Ten,

(42:37):
you'd play a Penn State and thenyou go play a Rutgers or you
play a Purdue, a team that'snot as good. But yet here in
the NFL, everybody's getting paid andit's still really hard to win in this
league. And he's done that sofar the season. Yeah, I mean,
you're always going to run into somebodybatter than New, tougher than New.
Bar fight. You know one guy, Oh, that guy never loses.

(43:00):
That comes in Cole Cox. You'relike, oh, I didn't know
he could lose. I mean,you get beat and it is hard.
And he's playing the hardest position inall of sports. To play and to
sustain it and do it that goodregularly is not easy to see the problem
with guys like him as he makesit look too easy, and I assure
you it's not easy. That's whymost guys, that's why we don't have

(43:21):
five Oh my gosh, elite superstarsplay in the position we got really see,
we get superstar and star skewed brother, they kind of the lines get
blurred. Josh Allen is a starquarterback, superstar. You take your team
to a different love Pat mahomes superstar. Right, that's it. We can
look at star quarterbacks. Dak Prescott'sstar quarterback because he is a superstar right

(43:43):
now, and pay doesn't mean Idon't judge quarterbacks by James Harden Superstar star
right now, Star, yes now, superstar, because superstar elevates teams exactly,
Superstar elevates teams. A star,you know, you can get yours
every night and you're a really goodplayer and you're going to the Hall of

(44:04):
Fame and all that stuff. Superstaris different super sight sack and acting.
Denzel Washington Superstar and we can getsome who may have even won an Academy
Award, may not be Superstar rightmaybe fourteen other movies flopped, who knows,
but it's the same here. Hemakes it look really easy. Easy
and it is cliche. But ifthere was ever a position or a sport

(44:27):
that is a quarterback, think aboutit. Why it's a one at a
time thing. And I hate thesaying, but it is so true.
And when they say it, weall roll our eyes. But you can
go and I've seen it. I'vebeen a part of it where you're having
in one of those games where you'relike, we're killing it, and then
all of a sudden you relax,not relax. You get too casual.
On one series, take a sack, force it into a throw in an

(44:52):
interception, the scores thirty three thirtythree, and you throw a pick six,
and at the end of the gamethe stat line says Sean Salisbury four
to twenty five, four touchdowns thirtyof thirty seven, and then there's that
one pick six to lose a game. Who you talk? What do you

(45:14):
think you're talking? And it wasa horrible decision and read, are you
talking about my four hundred plus andfour touchdowns or what he under duress in
the most important time's got two?Casual made a bad read after that.
If you're watching, if you're statwatching, that's what happens. And nobody
gives a fuzzy rats ass about yourfour forty for him staying in the moment

(45:37):
is And if the opposite's true,you could be having a where the dog's
urinated on your leg and you're everybody'syour own crowd's booing you. And then
you walk off with somehow pulling outa win in the end, and you
know what everybody's talking about, whata gutsy performance. Nobody cares that you
were seven at twenty four so CJ. Stroud's right, it's hard to man,

(45:57):
and it's only gonna get harder becauseeverybody's trying to play him different.
The guys just built for this,and you can't say that about most of
the game built for quarterbacks one thing, but I'm not built for this.
Means to elevate, and he's doingit. And that's why in my opinion
right now this is an outlier season. He can be the MVP with a
five and fourteen. So I wantto discuss further on that MVP conversation.

(46:21):
Do the Texans have to make theplayoffs for him to win the MVP?
We can discuss we come back becauseI well, I think about remember Andre
Dawson had a who won the MVPon a last place Cubs team. Now
I'm not saying their last place,but to me, nine wins, even
if you get if you miss outon a tiebreaker in the playoffs, nine

(46:43):
wins equal eleven for somebody else inmy opinion, considering what we went in
through. If these numbers continueing therethis Gotti. My answers no, and
the NFL answer is probably going tobe yes, sadly, But to me,
I'm different on that if you havebeen the best player in the league
and the rest of it, andyou've elevated your team and unfortunately some team

(47:04):
won ten you one night. Yeah, and the quarterback that it really wasn't
on the quarterback. I'm not surehow you can take that from him.
Yeah, let's let's discuss it aswe get into the seven o'clock hour to
that Texans have to make the playoffsfor CJ. Stroud to win MVP.
We'll discuss it next right here onthe Shawn Salisbury Show. Saulsbury, Malburg,

(47:25):
Salisbury, Houston. Okay, let'sdo this. Sewn Salisbury quarterback salth
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(47:51):
on the Shawn Salisbury Show, ShawnSalisbury, Brian Lalima, Triple, Emmanuel
m More here with you spot officiallythe new manager of the Houston Astros.
Dana Brown, General manager of theAstros, going to join us at ay
thirty this morning. Bronco's beating theBills in Monday Night Football CJ. Strout
getting a lot of attention from thenational media, a lot of praise him,

(48:14):
Demiko Ryan's, the entire team offensiveline getting shot, a couple of
shoutouts nationally. A lot of goodthings going for the Texans right now.
They get ready to take on theCardinals this weekend. My question is Sean's
gonna be Do the Texans have towin excuse me, have to make the
playoffs for him to win the MVP. Listen, I think Grace had put

(48:39):
that on our Yeah, I didsee on Twitter as well, and give
her credit for that. Because thereare certain seasons that are outliers. Kirk
Gibson's season I've mentioned before and atthe eighty eight where his numbers weren't near
as Gotti as somebody else's, butleadership, they took everything into account and
then the MVP with like I said, Dawson on the last place team won

(49:01):
the most Valuable player, which ispretty much unheard of. Yes, the
normal thought process make the playoffs herein the MVP conversation, but there are
the outliers, and right now,nine games in this could change. I
mean, listen, they still goteight games to go, They still got
half a season to go. Ifit continues, we're assuming it continues.
Let's say it does. The wayhe won't win it is is somebody has

(49:25):
the same amount of none, that'sthe same matching numbers, even if they're
on a better team, the samenumbers, and they do go to the
playoffs, Like let's say Mahomes cutsdown on picks and throws one, the
second half goes nine touchdowns, arenine picks and thirty eight touchdowns, and
they win the division and win homefield advanced throughout the playoffs, They're probably

(49:46):
gonna give to the Mahomes. Yeah, that's the reality of it. I
didn't say Mahomes would deserve it then, but the better team and he's been
in the league, and he's withthe coach as a veteran coach and been
in Super Bowls, I mean,you could probably load it up and give
it to Mahomes year, kind oflike you can Lebron James or normally or
now it's you know, Nikola jokicchor when Jordan was playing. Okay,

(50:07):
a guy can win it every year, sure, But to me, if
numbers the one reason I say this, if somebody like a Jalen Hurts or
Lamar Jackson's numbers were so gaudy andthey were the one seed and they won
the division, you're going to giveit to them. Yeah, that's just
usually the way it goes. Butif his numbers are gaudier than theirs,

(50:27):
and he took a three thirteen andone team to the playoffs in a half
a year, in the nine monthsfrom the time he gets here to the
end of this season and gets themto the playoffs, considering the circumstances,
I don't think we've ever had anMVP be a rookie an MVP offensive court.

(50:50):
I mean an offensive coordinator is arookie and a head coach's rookie all
on the same thing on a yearthat a guy win the MVP. I
don't know if that's ever happened.Don't think we've ever had a rookie win
the MVP at quarter in the NFL. Jim maybe did he win it?
I don't think we've I know we'venever had a rookie quarterback in modern time
win the MVP. So with thatin mind and the way he's playing,
Yeah, because it's the best MVPseason, we're still questioning. So to

(51:12):
answer your question, I do thinkthat he can Now if they go six
in eleven, they won one moregame. No, it doesn't matter.
If he throws for six thousand yards, he won't win the MVP. If
they're in that nine win category witha chance and they get and they miss
the playoffs, and his numbers areliterally thirty touchdowns and four or five interceptions.
Jim Brown's the only one there.You go, I did four or

(51:36):
five interceptions, and he's got himin and he throws for forty five hundred
yards and we're sitting here and thenext the guy who's ahead of him,
little less stats, with their teamwins the division. Now we've got a
decision to make. So is hisstats are gotty and they're on the borderline
the last two weeks the season ofmaking the playoffs, and nobody's got statistics

(51:57):
that are so god he say hehas to win it, right, look
at oh Tani pitching it. It'sa no brainer. Then I get it.
But if stats are close to thesame, you're gonna tell me,
Okay, did you expect eleven winsfrom Philadelphia as good as Jalen Hurt says?
Yes? Did you with that rosterminute eleven wins for sure, right
minimum, Okay, name me asoul on this planet when the season opened
up that thought this team was winningnine games, you're not gonna find it,

(52:20):
right, And then that this quarterbackwas going to do what he's doing.
Yeah, so you combine the book, Well, if you're really taking
the MVP, what that stands for, what that stands for? Then how
how is it not? How ishe not the leading candidate? He epitomizes
everything you want in what a quarterbackis supposed to do five years in the
league, not just a rookie.So I'm going to say it wouldn't affect

(52:44):
me now on a three because ifhe was on a three win team,
guess what, we just automatically thinkthey're playing from behind and so on all
the time, all these attempts thathave but you start to break down every
number in every category, there's nobodyplaying better in the league than him,
And I would be shameful if hedeserved it and they didn't give it to
him because they had they were nineand eight and the MVP was on a
ten win team. Stop it,just friggin stop it, because what if

(53:07):
the MVP is in a division oron a team that you know, the
MVP was Herbert and they didn't andthey barely made the playoffs with ten wins.
Let's just say it with him andthe numbers were the same, but
he threw nine more interceptions. Ohso he deserves MVP. Stop it.
So there you go. I thinkhe can. But I think that the

(53:28):
politics of giving the MVP to anon playoff team would be he'd have to
be really gaudy. But I thinkit can happen. I just don't know
how many I'd let it happen.I don't know if they will. Well,
if you take take Jalen Hurts offthe Eagles, take c J.
Strout off the Texans, like takethem away from their teams, I think
the Eagles are still a playoff team. I agree that. I don't think
they're a super Bowl team, rightI still think with smart quarterback play,

(53:51):
you can still make the playoffs.Right now, what we've seen it.
Take c J. Strout off thisteam, they're gonna win four games.
That's no disrespect to Davids. Listen, you can be good, just not
be as good as the other guy. And guess what well Davis Mills could
last in this league. C J. Stroud is different, and you wonder
if that's gonna happen. It's ano brainer. That's what that's usually what

(54:13):
I keep Saulsbury, al Burg,Salisbury, Houston. Okay, let's do
this. Shawn Salisbury will quarterback Salsberry. You can see true long time friend
shown Salisbury, Bryan la Lima,go Lobos to the shame tig shop to

(54:34):
come come away to dig. Thisis the Sean Salisbury Show, rolling into
the seven o'clock hour. Here onthe Shawn Salisbury Show, Sewn Salisbury,
Brian Lolima, Triple, Emmanuel M. Moore here with you. Joe Spot
officially the new manager of the HoustonAstros. Dana Brown, general manager of

(54:57):
the Astro's gonna join us Aday thirtythis morning. Bronco's beating the Bills and
football CJ. Strougting a lot ofattention from the national media, a lot
of praise him, Demiko Ryan's,the entire team offensive line getting a shot,
a couple of shoutouts nationally. Alot of good things going for the
Texans right now. They get readyto take on the Cardinals this weekend.

(55:19):
My question is Sean is gonna bedo the Texans have to win, excuse
me, have to make the playoffsfor him to win the MVP. Listen,
and I think Grace had put thaton our Yeah, I did see
on Twitter as well, and giveher credit for that, because there are
certain seasons that are outliers. KirkGibson's season I've mentioned before and at the

(55:44):
eighty eight where his numbers weren't nearas Gotti as somebody else's. But leadership,
they took everything into account and thenthe MVP with like I said,
Andre Dawson on the last place teamwon the most Valuable player, which is
pretty much unheard of. Yes,the normal thought process make the playoffs year
in the MVP conversation, but thereare the outliers, and right now,

(56:05):
nine games in this could change.I mean, listen, they still got
eight games to go, they stillgot half a season to go. If
it continues, we're assuming it continues. Let's say it does. The way
he won't win it is is somebodyhas the same amount of none, that's
the same matching numbers, even ifthey're on a better team, the same
numbers, and they do go tothe playoffs. Like let's say Mahomes cuts

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down on picks and throws one,the second half goes nine touchdowns, are
nine picks and thirty eight touchdowns,and they win the division and win home
field advanced throughout the playoffs. They'reprobably gonna give to Mahomes. Yeah,
that's the reality of it. Ididn't say Mahomes would deserve it then,
but the better team, and he'sbeen in the league, and he's with
a coach as a veteran coach andbeen in Super Bowls, I mean,

(56:50):
you could probably load it up andgive it to Mahomes every year, kind
of like you can Lebron James ornormally or now it's you know, Nikola
Jokic or when Jordan was playing.Okay, a guy can it every year?
Sure? But to me, ifnumbers the one reason I say this,
if somebody like a Jalen Hurts orLamar Jackson's numbers were so gaudy and
they were the one seed and theywon the division, you're gonna give it

(57:13):
to them. Yeah, that's justusually the way it goes. But if
his numbers are gaudier than theirs,and he took a three thirteen and one
team to the playoffs in a halfa year, in the nine months from
the time he gets here to theend of this season and gets them to
the playoffs. Considering the circumstances,I don't think we've ever had an MVP

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be a rookie an MVP offensive court. I mean, an offensive coordinator is
a rookie and a head coach's rookieall on the same thing on a year
that a guy win the MVP.I don't know if that's ever happen.
I don't think we've ever had arooie win the MVP in the NFL.
Jim Brown maybe did he win it? I don't think we've I know we've
never had a rookie quarterback in moderntime win the MVP. So with that

(58:00):
in mind and the way he's playing, yeah, because it's the best MVP
season, we're still questioning. Soto answer your question, I do think
that he can. Now if theygo six and eleven, they won one
more game. No, it doesn'tmatter if he throws for six thousand yards,
he won't win the MVP. Ifthey're in that nine win category with
a chance and they get and theymiss the playoffs, and his numbers are

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literally thirty touchdowns and four or fiveinterceptions. Jim Brown's the only one there.
You go, if they did fouror five interceptions and he's got him
in and he throws for forty fivehundred yards and we're sitting here and the
next the guy who's ahead of him, little less stats with their team wins
the division. Now we got adecision to make. So is his stats

(58:42):
are gotty and they're on the borderlinethe last two weeks the season of making
the playoffs, and nobody's got statisticsthat are so god he say he has
to win it, right, lookat oh Tani pitching it. It's a
no brainer. Then I get it. But if stats are close to the
same, you're gonna tell me,Okay, did you expect eleven wins from
Philadelphi as good as Jalen Hurt says, yes? Did you with that roster

(59:04):
minute eleven wins? For sure?Right? Minimum? Okay, name me
a soul on this planet when theseason opened up that thought this team was
winning nine games, you're not gonnafind it, right, and then that
this quarterback was going to do whathe's doing. Yeah, so you combine
the book, Well, if you'rereally taking the MVP, what that stands
for, what that stands for,then how is it not? How is

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he not the leading candidate? Heepitomizes everything you want in what a quarterback
is supposed to do five years inthe league, not just a rookie.
So I'm going to say it wouldn'taffect me now on a three because if
he was on a three win team, guess what, we just automatically think
they're playing from behind and so onall the time, all these attempts that
have But you start to break downevery number in every category, there's nobody
playing better in the league than him. And I would be shameful if he

(59:50):
deserved it and they didn't give itto him because they had they were nine
and eight and the MVP was ona ten win team. Stop it,
just frigging stop it, because whatif the MVP is in a division or
on a team that you know,the MVP was Herbert and they didn't and
they barely made the playoffs with tenwins. Let's just say it with him
and the numbers were the same,but he threw nine more interceptions. Oh

(01:00:13):
so he deserves MVP. Stop it. So there you go. I think
he can, but I think thatthe politics of giving the MVP to a
non playoff team would be he'd haveto be really gaudy. But I think
it can happen. I just don'tknow how many I'd let it happen.
I don't know if they will.Well, if you take take Jalen Hurts
off the Eagles, take c J. Strout off the Texans, like take

(01:00:35):
them away from their teams, Ithink the Eagles are still a playoff team.
I agree that. I don't thinkthey're a super Bowl team right I
still think with smart quarterback play youcan still make the playoffs. Right now
is what we've seen it. Takec J. Stroud off this team,
they're going to win four games.That's no disrespect to Davids. Listen,
you can be good, just notbe as good as the other guy.
And guess what well Davis Mills canlast in this league. C J.

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Stroud is different, and you wonderif that's gonna happen. It's a no
brainer, that's what That's usually whathappens. When the starter's playing ahead of
the backup, that guy's usually better. CJ. Stroud's just far better than
anybody. It's a rookie and farbetter right now, playing far better anybody
thought. And he's playing better thanany quarterback in the league. I mean,
if you look at the interceptions thathe has thrown, he's only thrown

(01:01:21):
two. The next closest quarterback thatis starting every game, uh close.
You would have to go down too. Russell Wilson's got four. Yeah,
it'd be Russell Wilson, Derek Carr, Deshaun Watson. They've got four.
And guess what, No, no, and no. When it comes to

(01:01:44):
MVP talk, not one of them'seven sniffing it. And here's the difference.
Remember, Watson missed games, RussWilson's just trying to find himself.
You're not winning the MVP. Andwho is the other one? Carr?
Forget it, he'd lose his startingjob so that you can you can low
those out of the water. ThisCJ. Stroud stuff has been And here's

(01:02:05):
the deal. Normally, when yousay, well, the guy's only throwing
five picks, and you start tolook at yards per attempt attempts in a
game, how they're doing normally it'sfifteen to twenty six. But he's protecting
the ball yards per attempt five pointfive. This dude's at the top of
the league in yards per attempt instatistics and touchdowns to complete to interceptions,

(01:02:30):
playing from behind, I mean aggressiveness, the way they pushed the ball.
Come on, bed, I triedto find where the hole in this game
is. I ain't seen it,and trust me, if I see it,
I'm gonna let you know. ButI haven't seen the hole in his
game. And the fact that perfectcase in point when he threw that pick,

(01:02:50):
laid two balls on the ground fumbleand then the one should have been
incompletion because his arm was going forward. But that's neither here nor there.
The picky through could have right thenand there. My thought process was,
how's he going to respond to thisone? His dad a stone cold lock
win. How's he gonna Oh,he gave Burrow the and you were thinking
the same thing. I guarant askedit. You're gonna give Burrow and they're
gonna g Burrow's. They're gonna gowin this game. And hell if if

(01:03:13):
what's his name catches the ball inthe end zone, was it Higgins?
Boyd boy boy? That's right,Higgins didn't play. Uh if he catch
that ball in the end zone,it may be over. But it didn't.
And you gave C. J.Stroud Now now we're looking at Stroud
like, oh, now you gavesee not just Burrow or Mahomes, you
gave c J. Stroud too muchtime. We're saying that about a nine
game rookie, and look how heovercame what could have been a that's a

(01:03:36):
type of throw that for some ofus mere mortals would have affected us for
two games. Meaning and you youknow, you're like gripping it a little
hard. I can't throw that balllate to the flat and he got way
late, and he knows that hewas scanned across the field through it late.
As a throwaway, that ball's gotto end up in the stands,
right, and it didn't. Andthat's okay because sometimes in losing, you
win man, and he did.He lost that little but won the whole

(01:04:00):
thing because he That goes back towhat he told Tom Brady. I don't
think that statistics are one play.If you live in the moment, that
play won't bother you the next play. And it's a unique guy that can
do that, yep, and he'sdoing it all as a rookie. Let's
get to the steak out next.On Sports Talk seven ninety this is a

(01:04:25):
Salisbury continues now Sports Talk seven ninetyhuh for your rockies. All right,
Sean, what are you hearing outthere? Now? The Salisbury Steakout,
Salsbury's takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show. It's time for the steak out here

(01:04:47):
on the Sean Salisbury Show. Allright, Sean, for this steakout,
I'm gonna play some audio for you. It's a little bit longer, but
I want you to listen to it. I'm sure you've already heard it,
but we're gonna just discuss it.And then there's a second part after the
audio that I'm gonna explain to you, saying, let me get this out
of my mouth. Yeah, goahead, Ready, here we go.

(01:05:10):
All right. This is the audio. This is from I believe, gosh
dang it. Anyways, it's fromBally's Sports Dallas Mavericks, one of the
reporters. Are we talking about whathe said about Jah? Yes? I
did hear it, and he andevery single part of this is I don't

(01:05:32):
even need to answer this. Whenwe're done, I'm just gonna tell you
my answer. Give it two thumbsup. Okay, here we go.
All right. This is this isthe audio that I'm referring to here we
go. That's the producer to pipethis into the Clippers locker rooms. I
can talk to you, James.I hope you're taking notes. I'm telling
you at advance. You're welcome forthe wisdom I'm about to spew, because
listen, I get on my kneesevery night and pray for someone to believe

(01:05:56):
in me, like Daryl Borony believedin you. You wanted a certain coach.
That brought it Mike D'Antoni. Youwant to play a certain style,
they played it. You want toDwight Howard. They brought him in and
got rid of him. You weretired of him. You want to Chris
Paul. They brought him in andgot rid of when you were tired of
him. They brought in your oldfriend, Russell Westbrook. You want to
go to Vegas on off days.They looked away. You wanted the team
to stay over so you could goout at night. They'd change the schedule

(01:06:16):
and it didn't work. And youknow what you said, I'm gonna break
up with my woobis not good enough. I see the bright lights in New
York. I want to go there. By old pal Kevin Durant, it's
gonna work the Big three and allafter one year you wanted out. You
realized, oh my gosh, Itook this guy for Graham, the guy
that believed in me. I wentback with Daryl Maury. They tried to
Ben Simmons for you. How didthey pull that off? And you know

(01:06:40):
what, You went there and yougot a partner who got the MVP.
He won the MVP. And whatdid you say afterwards? You said,
they didn't hand me the rains.You're the point guard. You were holding
the rains. And what did youdo when you had the rains? You
scored nine points in Game seven againstBoston, you brew a three two series
lead, so they fired their coach. Good enough, you broke up with

(01:07:00):
Tick. I believe in you again, and you said, the bride lights
of LA that's where I want togo. Let's see if that works.
Listen, James, have you everhad those friends who had bad roommates.
It's over and over they complained abouttheir bad roommates. This guy's terrible.
The bad roommate here. They neverthought would be self aware enough that they're
the bad roommate. They're the problem. Hey, James, you are the

(01:07:20):
problem. If this doesn't work thisyear in this system, with this team,
then you're gonna go and points fingersat everybody else and you're gonna go
back home and you're gonna start swipingright for another team. So there's not
gonna be anybody left because James,you're not the beard, You're not the
system. You're the problem. Allright. So that was bally Sports Southwest,

(01:07:45):
Dallas, Dallas Mavericks analyst Brian Demeris. And you thought you hated Dallas
Sports. Okay, that is sorickt brilliant. Bally's Sports Southwest posted that
on their Twitter again out but theydeleted it yesterday. Why what is he

(01:08:08):
didn't say? There was nothing whatJames Harden controls Bally? Now what about
that? Tell me he didn't?Did he did? He didn't cuss him?
So it was pulled from Bally's Twitteraccount because executives felt the clip quote
did not reflect the Mavericks organization endquote. Oh stop it. Oh so

(01:08:29):
basically, once again, go letme just tell you this, if you're
being fair, At any point intime, did he talk about James family
or anything like that? Now?Nothing, Nope, he kept it to
basketball and James approach, which everybodytalks about, we talked about on this
station, talked about right here onthis show. Let me piss some people

(01:08:54):
off the very first time. IfI don't make a personal the very first
time, or should I say thenext time? Should I say? Somebody
says, Sean, you can't criticizefairly James Harden because it doesn't reflect how
iHeartMedia feels about him or feels aboutuh what. It doesn't reflect how they

(01:09:17):
feel, then don't don't have ananalyst, stick an AI guy up there
and tell them what to say.Now, if it's not personal, come
out and say, well, Shawan, you can't criticize dubond for you know,
I use hymns and as a goldglove and who booted three balls in
a game? Oh yeah, yeah, I actually can. The next time
it happens will be the first time. Our bosses. Don't do that here.

(01:09:40):
Now you make it personal and actstupid. Different story, you know,
cussing somebody attacking their family, differentstories, attacking a partner meaning we're
affiliated with them. Don't go offand say like he's what with them avericks?
Yeah, go off and say MarkCuban's the worst owner because I can't
stand his wife. And now nowthat now walk down analysts off the set
because he's not an analyst. He'san idiot. Not this guy. What

(01:10:03):
did he say that would most peoplewould be high five and him rewarding him
for they probably got more clicks thanthey've ever had on a video in their
life. But what did he saythat was so that was so wrong?
Guys should get a pay raise everythingit was true? Is it? Ballet
Sports doesn't it doesn't reflect what itdoes not reflect the Mavericks organization. Well,

(01:10:30):
he's not speaking on behalf of theMavericks. He's speaking on behalf of
an analyst that was asked a question. Excuse me, I'm not ballely sports.
But if ballet Sports wants to controlall their analysts that way, you're
then understand you're never getting the realstory that if that, if that's how
I mean, I think ballet Sportsdoes a great job. But if they're
telling their analysts, you can't criticizea player from another team that obviously deserves

(01:10:56):
criticism for what Every single thing hesaid was spot on on. Planes did
leave later because James Hard wanted tostay a wrong Planes left when James wanted
to believe. Yes, he gotto go visit stuff. Yes, Daryl
Morey rolled out every red cart forhim, all that stuff. And what
James Harden said, and he alsosaid he's a he's what he's a He's
a system. He's not part ofhe is a system? Right? What

(01:11:18):
did he say that was wrong?Yeah? Now, hey, Sean,
you can't criticize fairly. See thatour great bosses have defended us in criticizing
stuff or asking tough questions or doingstuff like I said, you don't do.
There's no reason to make it personal. I don't even know if he

(01:11:38):
knows James Harden. But if youdon't like James Harden the game, shouldn't
you say it? I don't knowwhat was wrong with that, do you?
I thought it was brilliant. Calledhim up and said, hey,
what's your You got one more yearleft in your contract? Any other extension?
I thought everything he said was true, correct, Yeah, I can't
state it. That's why I saidI can't add anything, because he said
everything that you'd want to say.He literally went through every situation James Harden

(01:12:00):
has gone through. Yeah, andPhilly's better without him, right, Look
at the Look, they're a betterteam without him. Clippers haven't won with
him. So I to me,it doesn't mean now when you say,
well James is an MVP, yeah, hell of a talent. We're talking
about a team, they're not talkingabout him. This is the one on
one game. If you want todo that, let's have a one on
one contest and go. Harden's agreat player, he's not a great winner.

(01:12:23):
There's a big difference. And soI don't know what the guy said.
Listen, I respect ballet sports opinion. I don't sign the paychecks there.
And but if somebody from hey,Sewan, I want to hire you
to be a football hans, areyou gonna tell me I can't criticize or
compliment somebody on the air because youdon't that's not how you feel. No,
okay, cool, we're in Well, no, we're going to tell
you what you get to say.Well, I'm the wrong guy for that
job, okay, because you're notgetting true The fans don't get real analysis

(01:12:45):
and they're getting hoes and screwed over. If you're a robotic and I got
to just you're here, you sendme a script what you want me to
say for for for for two threehours in a basketball game, and I'll
make sure I cover it for youin a pre and post game show.
Right, So this is I'm notdogging doubt Ballet Sports. They make that
decision. That's their employee, right, I just know one thing to pull
that off and say it's not howthey say. It's okay, you don't
have to agree with him. Thatthe CEO may love James Harden. Great,

(01:13:10):
you hired him for a reason togive his opinion and it wasn't personal,
it was fair and it was friggin'spot on. Okay, I didn't
have a problem. So many timesdid James Harden get criticized by people on
this stay, by critics when hewas here? Yeah, at any time
did anybody walk Downhill say you can'tsay that about James Harden, that he
turns the ball over too much,or that he's selfish. No, that's
called a good boss. That's whythey hire you. Yeah. I don't

(01:13:33):
know who did the thing at Bally's, but I'll tell you what what that's
just it's silly. It's not thatbig a deal. It's just silly to
pull something that he was just givinggood, honest analysis and I guarantee when
that mic went off, the guysare saying, dude, that was phenomenal.
Yeah, guarantee it. You knowwhat. They looked at him,
and after he put the mic down, they went to commercially know what they
said. They let him cook?Probably, dude, boy, just cook.

(01:13:57):
Yeah, it's exactly what you hadto let him cook. Yeah,
Mike Drop, I don't know whyyou don't cook it. I don't know
why you You know, you're theguy who gets in between her. You
don't like to let people cook?What do you mean? I don't know.
I let you cook every day.You know you do, don't you?
Yeah? Bake cook right? Ilike it? Yeah, and hand
it off. Yeah, yeah,man, that's a good call back.

(01:14:18):
Damn. I just I wish washere today. Who Philosoph? Oh he's
here, man, check that out. I see you, dog, I
see him and I hear him,and I like it when I see him
and hear him. I'm going totell you right now, Yeah, you're
right. You gotta let him cook. Have to Anybody that lets a person
cook is doing the right thing.Don't they know how to cook? Correct?

(01:14:41):
Don't give me, don't give methe hostess being the chef. Is
that what you're saying? Like whenyou walk into a restaurant, don't want
the person who sit seats me,No, not the host. I don't
want the maye or d cook inmy steak. No, exactly, no,
come on, hi, right,I don't want them hands on my
meat. Come on now, Wellthat's different. It could be. It
could be different if you really thinkabout it. I mean, what is
it? You want it tenderized?Yeah, you got to you gotta tenderize,

(01:15:03):
smack it sometimes, you know,say that one more time. I
don't, don't we got to saythat one more time. You don't want
what I don't want to host withtheir hands on my meat. You want
that chef, correct, Yeah,if there's if there's yeah, yeah absolutely,
I want the chef messing with mysteak right right right? Yeah?
Got you gotta have a meat.I'll tell you. I'll tell you the
best way though, to get reallygood steak cooked the way you want it

(01:15:24):
is when it comes out, isit moist comes out? First of all?
Order it well done? Yeah,you have the chef. But if
it comes out, then tell themno, no, no, I want
to cooked more and have them sitit back and we're gonna send it back
to the kitchen and have somebody walkback there. Hey, hey, table
Table fifteenth said that they want thiscooked more. Just do that and see

(01:15:45):
how that turns out for you.So you want it like burnt. Yeah,
we said chart on the outside,not on the inside. But yeah,
but yeah, that's just piss themoff. But you don't want the
non chef with their hands on yourmeat. Correct, And they in a
kitchen cooking? Yeah, I feelyou. Yeah, let him cook though,
have to you gotta let him cook. You ready to look at some
college football playoff scenarios? I gota good one here for you. Oh

(01:16:09):
god, I got a good one. It's it's we're getting close. Man,
it's over fourteen. Probably freaking sucks. It might well. Your buddy
Joel Clapp put it together, soit must be great, Brian, doesn't
it suck? Yeah? Here,I'm with you, dog, Let's do
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Back to the Sean Salisbury Show onSports Talk seven ninety Black Ship Station of

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your Rockets is why don't we getmy knick? FROs? Could the suicide
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Call. Dana Brown, the Astrosgeneral manager, gonna join us in about
an hour here on the Shawn SalisburyShow. He's going to join us at
eight thirty. Joe spot is officiallythe new manager of the Houston Astros.
I'm gonna have some audio from hispress conference ray starting at eight o'clock this
morning. Broncos beat the Bills ofMonday Night football talking. Let's look at
some college football playoff scenarios. Acouple of weeks away from some conference championship

(01:18:51):
games winding down this regular season incollege football. So here's some hypotheticals for
you. Sean, You've got athirteen and oh Big ten champ whoever that's
going to be Ohio State or Michigan. Then you've got a thirteen and o
Florida State. Okay, well,there's two spots remaining. It could be

(01:19:12):
a twelve and one Oregon who wouldbe the PAC twelve champ, A twelve
and one Texas Big twelve champ,twelve and one Alabama assuming they win the
SEC twelve and one Georgia non champ, twelve and one Washington non champ.
Who would get those remaining two spots? Okay, let's start with the first

(01:19:33):
one to me right now, aswe sit, I'll just tell you how
i'd feel. Let's say, firstoff, if everybody you got Georgia with
one loss or getting undefeated in thisscenario, Georgia is a one one loss,
right, and then and it's theone Georgia one loss, Alabama one

(01:19:56):
loss, correct, You've got FloridaState staying undefeated, you got Washington with
one loss ye, and you've gotwho am I leaving at Texas with one
loss, one loss, YEP,and Michigan or michigano House State one loss
undefeated. It's just an undefeated whoeverwon's right? Okay? So Big Ten's
in and Florida State's in, bothundefeated conference champions. So now you've got

(01:20:17):
to deal with Texas Washington. Youkeep it, Oregon can't have just one
law. Well, if Oregon beatWashington and that so we got them too.
So Washington, Oregon with one,Texas with one, Georgia with one,
Alabama with one YEP, So fivefor two Oregon, Texas, Bama
would all be their respective champs,right, and the other two one loss.
Well, you can get rid ofthe other two. So Georgia and

(01:20:38):
Washington gone, say the champ.Hold George over here for a second,
because I'm getting to them. Washington, the loser of the big of the
PAC twelve championship is out. Okay. I hate to say this, and
they've made. If Oregon beats Washingtonin the PAC twelve Championship, the PAC

(01:20:59):
twelve may gets snow both with oneloss. In your scenario I'm talking about.
In your scenario, are you pickingwho won the conference championship Alabama,
Yeah, they'd be Georgia. Idon't see here's the thing, I don't
see how a one loss in yourscenario with all of those teams with five

(01:21:23):
teams with one loss, five teamswith one loss, I don't see how
a one loss team since there's fiveof them and two undefeated that are automatic
conference champs and in right, butyou got Florida noll but Alabama's not undefeated,
but you got them as conference champs. SEC conference champion is in the
national title in the final four.That's a no brainer. Unless it was

(01:21:46):
a bad year and they won lostfour games, let's not have it.
And Florida State's undefeated in a Powerfive conference, they're in the loser of
that PAC twelve championship game. WillIf it's Oregon, it's a no brainer.
That'd be two losses. If Oregonin this scenario beats Washington, Washington
is not going eliminate them, Okay, under your scenario, because that's the

(01:22:08):
only loss, you're assuming that Washington'sgoing to have correct correct one. So
now it comes down to Big twelveconference champion at twelve and one Pack twelve
conference champion at twelve and one andnow and then we're talking about we already
got big and then the Big Tenconference champion at twelve and one. No
Big Ten would be thirteen and nowthirteen. Okay, So Alabama's in as

(01:22:31):
the conference champion with one loss.The winner of the Big Ten championship,
if they're undefeated in your scenario isin. Okay, Florida state is inky.
So now you're down to as Washington, Oregon, Texas and Georgia.
Georgia law, in my opinion isthe lean is going to be the fact
that even though a one loss Georgiateam, the bias of the SEC,

(01:22:55):
you're always going to get by thecommittee. You're just are favoring that second
one. Three time champion or twotime champion. They want to see if
they can make a run. They'regoing to get that benefit of the doubt.
So still keep them on the burnerthere for a second. Texas and
Oregon comes down to this, andwho's Texas gonna beat in the Big twelve

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championship game? Whoever? Whoever theythey they play and beat whoever gets to
that point. Give me a scenariowho they're gonna play? Uh would it
be? I'd have to look atthe records, but just on your scenario,
so as of right now, itwould be Oklahoma State that today,
right, So you're you're gonna tellme it's probably gonna be Okay, Oklahoma

(01:23:36):
State or Oklahoma, I would assume. So now I got to decide between
I just with that, what aboutthe Texas win. If Texas wins,
you're giving me one win against Alabama, that's it, right, and Alabama's
in the final four, right,and that's why it's gonna But no,
that's my point. But are youjudging the Okay now? Now do Oregon?

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They'd be Washington and Washington have beenundefeated, So I mean, I'm
not saying Texas shouldn't be so thenand you know, the truth is,
I personally don't see how if Georgia, Texas, and Oregon all have one
loss and won their conference championship,or two of them won their conference championship

(01:24:19):
and Georgia did not, even thoughthere's back to back champion and if Alabama
beats I don't think you can putGeorgia in. I just don't. It's
I understand why talent wise you'd wantto, but I don't think you can
because they didn't win a conference championship, correct, I just don't think you
can, although Georgia can beat themall right, Obviously, the one loss

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team in the Big Tens out.We already noticed that. So now you
come down to Oregon or Texas,it'll simply come down to strength to schedule.
Who's played better football? You gotto strength the schedule. I would
think so Back twelve's got a betterconference right now, far better? Yes,
so oh, I would think thatTexas and Georgia would miss out,

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and that Oregon, especially depending onthe Oregon, and it would be Oregon,
Florida State, Alabama and the winnerof the Big Ten championship that would
be your that would be your teamsin it. And I listen, it's
not again. I'd love to seeTexas. I'm telling you what they'd think

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they and I actually think that ifit came down to it, if they
were going to take a Big championout and put another team in, it
would be taking the Big twelve championout as a one loss team and putting
Georgia in as the number two team. I think that causes too much of
a stir. I believe if you'reundefeating, you win your conference. Championship
in the Power Five, it's nobrainer. One loss and then it comes

(01:25:43):
down to Texas and Oregon, whichGeorgia can beat both of them, and
they can beat both of those teams. So Georgia had the argument. But
and you'd say, well, waita minute, we already we lost to
the team that Texas beat. Andthen Texas would say, wait a minute,
Alabama beat Georgia and we beat Alabama. They have the argument. Of
course they'd have the argument. I'mgonna say that it would be organ getting

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in by strength to schedule. I'mgonna say they'd want to put Georgia in
Texas before Oregon for obvious reasons.I believe that. So that and if
that scenario presents itself, it'll beone hell of a watch. And then
you're gonna know where the bias leans, right, and then you got to
look at, well, where's Georgia'sstrength the schedule. It's been pretty tough

(01:26:27):
down these last three or four weeks. It's that they but they may look
easy. They just hammered the numbereight team in the country. They hung
fifty plus on them. They wouldhave an argument. Texas would have an
art because you'd say, is thesecond best team. And I'm gonna just
is the second best team in theSEC better than the best team in the
Big Twelve? I would think,I would think, I'm talking about what

(01:26:50):
do you think they think? Oh? They think Georgie is better exactly in
this scenario, in this scenario thatI presented, and Joel Klatt put the
up obviously Fox uh college football analysts. But I think the committee they're gonna
put in Georgia even if they losein the in the in the area,
it will be Alabama and Georgia verywell. Maybe, But you're gonna tell

(01:27:11):
me that two teams, two conferencesare gonna come up with that. I
don't see how you do that.How are you going to punish a conference
champion? What are we playing for? I know, I agree, trust
me. And and here's the problem. I know Georgia can beat anybody.
It should be the way that Isee it. It should be if Florida
State is undefeated, they're in whoeverwins the Big twelve or Big Ten.
If they're dated, they're in thewinner of the SEC team with one loss

(01:27:33):
correct in right, And then itcomes down to Oregon or Texas. And
in my opinion. Oregon's stuff schedulehas been tougher Oregons, so both of
them happen to overall, Oregon's gonnahave to get the edge. But you're
saying this, You're saying Texas feedAlabama and they did it early in the
season. They did it doesn't matteron the road, and they and they
remember finding their quarterback right there.I'm telling them what the committee is gonna

(01:27:55):
take that, you and I they'lltake that into it to say they didn't
have had three quarterbacks they couldn't findone. Then they finally settled on mill
Row. I think that was thegame that spring board them to say we
got to find our quarterback. Sowith that, and then you go to
Oregon, and wouldn't Oregon have thesame argument as Texas. Where's Washington ranked
right now? Washington's five at thetime. And you go and you get

(01:28:16):
a possible Heisman Trophy winner in MichaelPennock's and you beat Oregon and although it
would be at a neutral site,you beat Oregon. Where's that played in
the Vegas Stadium r where the RaidersI think that's where it's at now used
to be in San Francisco area,So if if you beat them, are
is an Oregon gonna say, waita minute, now, we went hammered.
We went and beat the team thatwas undefeated, and I just saw

(01:28:39):
a last last minute play in theirbuilding early season, right, So you
have the everybody's got the argument.I think the committee would want Georgia the
the truth should it be, shouldbe organ when they talk about full strength
of schedule, not just the onegame that Alabama the text win. But
Texas would have an argument. There'sno question. I don't see how you
leave a one lost conference champion outand put a one lost non conference champion

(01:29:01):
winner in. The problem is thatthe two time defending champion and the committee
wants to see if they can defendit a third time. And you and
I both know it. Yep,Texas A and M looking for their next
head coach. Well, there's aformer player who wants to say and help
finding that head coach. Who isit. We'll discuss the next on Sports
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that Kenyon again? Coming up ateight thirty this morning. Astros general manager
Dana Brown is going to join theshow talk about hiring Joe Espada as the
next mas Excuse me, as inthe new manager of the Houston Astros.
Broncos beat the Bills on Monday NightFootball. We're talking college football. Just

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went through some scenarios for the CollegeFootball Playoff. Texas and fired Jimbo Fisher.
Looking for their next head coach.Well, there was somebody yesterday that
wants to help Sean. Johnny Manzieltweeted out, I have faith in the

(01:31:21):
Texas A and M leadership to putsomebody in place to get us to where
we need to be. The piecesfor success are are are in the building.
However, however, I can helpin any capacity. I would love
nothing more. Well, well,here's what I'll bet you doesn't happen.

(01:31:44):
And he was a phenomenal player atTexas A and M, and I stopped
at Texas A and M. Phenomenalplayer. Yep, no question. Here's
what's not going to happen. Notone call from the athletic director to ask
Johnny Manziel who they should hire asthe head coach is going to happen.

(01:32:08):
Not one. Now, somebody oncampus may want to know a buddy of
his may. Somebody at the universemay say, Johnny, what do you
think I personally don't think nor shouldthey. The athletic director walk in and
say, come on an minue,let's seven meeting, let's come sit down.

(01:32:28):
What do you think about give meyour five coaches? And why?
I do not think that that's goingto happen. I'm sure Johnny would like
to be involved. I want tobe involved in the next defensive coordinator hire
for USA. Guess what's not goingto happen. They're not going to go
to you? No? Why not? Uh? Probably it doesn't matter,
Probably because there's more people there thatare doing the deep dive into who they

(01:32:51):
want. So I love Johnny.He was a great player. Uh and
I his energy at that university didwonders for them. Johnny Manziel will have
no percentage of decision in this choiceof who the head coach at Texas A

(01:33:12):
and M. Is that, Iguarantee you, Just so you know,
somebody may say, john what doyou think out of he's an alumni.
Respect. Marcus Allen walks by theAda, Marcus, what do you think,
man? Who should we hire?Hey? Man? Go get Jeff
Fisher to decordinate your defense. Wellwhatever it is, right, Uh,

(01:33:33):
they're not. Hey, thanks Marcus, that's not going to be an etched
in stone Hire. And he knowsa little bit about football too. So
my point is, I'm sure Johnnywould like to be And you say,
hey, the leadership at Texas Aand M is so good that that's the
he's putting it out there to hopethat they do read it call him in
because I'm sure he'd like a position, a job in the athletic department.

(01:33:56):
I don't blame him, However,every way you get to it, I
get. But I can tell youthis, Johnny Manziel's input will not have
any impact on who the next personhired is. Yeah, there's no shot,
unless, of course, they hireUrban Meyer and or Dion Sanders and
all of a sudden Johnny says,yeah, that's who I wanted. Okay,
great, But he will have thedecision will be made without Johnny Manziel's

(01:34:19):
input, even if he gives hisinput, right that you get my point?
Yeah? Oh yeah, I thoughtit was crazy to see that come
on from Johnny Tripley. I said, we got that audio. All right,
let's go to uh Steven A Smithtalked about who the Aggie should hire
as their next head coach. Thisis Stephen A. Dan Orlowski brought up

(01:34:39):
the name Dion Sanders for Texas A. And that's what I've been saying,
Deon Sanders in the SEC with thatvault that they have available to them with
them hogs that he could he couldrecruit because he doesn't have him at Colorado
and he ain't gonna get them.Dion said, I don't think they'll do
it and could not beat my Wildcatslast weekend. That's for sure. Texas
A and m prime Tom Sanders inthe SEC that that needs to happen.

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Didn't you say that? Yes,ra Sean, I said that they need
to interview me and jump off,jump all over that interview. Did he
say go and get some hog?He said, go get some hogs.
It was plural hogs, meaning tosay this is the big fellas, you
know, the big dudes. Hedidn't say go get some hog. I

(01:35:25):
thought he said go get some hogs. He did hogs, Oh, like
a couple of them, more thanone sometimes at that you need five.
If it's what you say, it'sit's free, it's me give me three.
If it's free. It's me giveme three. Yeah. So I
mean Steven A. Smith has studiedthe Hogs. I mean there's offensive lines
around the country. He has gotto have. Is going to be the

(01:35:45):
fashionable choice, even though Colorado nowis well that the completely changed the the
narrative of that university and it's awesome. They're getting their ass handed to him
on a regular basis, but weexpect it. Remember at the beginning of
the sev many wins and we wentthrough him, I said, what five
h struggle to be Bowl eligible?Yeah? Who was? He said,

(01:36:06):
who was going to struggle to beBowl eligible? Yeah? Who was going
to protect yours? Sanders? Right? And we said, with all the
transfers where they're gonna wilt at theend. They'll score great team speed and
Deon's a phenomenal leader. The problemis going to be that the the season's
gonna wear them out because people aregoing to be bigger than they got more
depth they have any depth there.And Dion knows this was coming down to

(01:36:27):
Pike. I mean, he's hopingthey could pull off more of it physically.
They just can't handle the big pushat the line of scrimmage. So
he's got to go somewhere else toget it. I mean, or got
to have a full ye or twoto recruit, to steal some big fellows
to go back up to Boulder,and I get it. So Dion would
be a great choice. I lovehim because regardless of the record, he
has changed the way we're looking atfootball and changed the way Colorado is and
really is A He can maximize thebuilding because he does get buy in.

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The question is do they have theguts at A and M. This would
be the biggest out of the boxhigher they've ever had. I'm not I'm
talking about because he's African American.I could care that Kevin Summon was there
has nothing to do. I've doneabout out of the box, higher on
the old guard, the way youdo things right. We can't have a
guy that's bigger than the university.Oh yes you can. I know you

(01:37:13):
can't. Especially lamboyant, flashy stasfilled with a lot of substance, and
Dion had one thing forget all allthat stuff neon Dion in primetime. He's
still plenty of substance, and he'sgot exactly what an M needs, old
school teaching and rules and get yourass to class and do all but knows
how to recruit and maximize where guysbuy in. And if you get buy

(01:37:33):
in, they'll play better. Soif you have the guts to do that's
one thing. If you want thesafest pick when it comes to winning,
it's Urban Meyer to me. Thosetwo candidates are at the top of the
list. And why why one changedthe culture and you need it changed here
at A and M. You needyou need to pick me up. You
need that spice and it With UrbanMeyer, you'll be in national title contention

(01:37:54):
in two years. That's who heis. Yeah, either one. It's
a fact that's proven. He's doneit. Yeah, there's no there right
year in and year out. Allright, let's get to some Astros.
Joe Aspatta officially introduced as the newmanager of the Astros yesterday. What did
he say to kick off that introduction? Let's talk about it next on Sports
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Talk seven ninety. Sean Brian andTripley here with you right here on Sports
Talk seven ninety. Dana Brown goingto join our show in about twenty seven
minutes. Eight thirty. Bron goesmeet the Bills. On Monday Night Football,
we talked CJ. Stroud talk alittle college football. Let's talk about

(01:39:39):
the new manager of the Houston Astros, Joe Espata, officially introduced yesterday.
He's the twentieth manager in franchise history. And this is what he said to
start off that press conference yesterday.This is a very exciting day for me
and my family. But before Ibegin, I want to thank Jim Queen

(01:39:59):
and the Queen family for this incredibleopportunity. I'm humble by this. This
is a dream come true and Ijust can't express my feelings about how happy
I am to stay home and getto manage his team. I gotta thank
my wife. No, before Igo to my wife, I gotta thank

(01:40:21):
you sorry for your trust, foryour trust. Thank you. I really
appreciate it. I can. Ican't wait to work closely with you and
keep this winning culture going and gettingthis team back to the Wall series.
Pamela, thank you, my lovefor your support and your love and your
patient and my daughters. Girls.I know how much this means to you,

(01:40:50):
and I want to share something withyou. You remember when we always
go to school and Daddy tells youguy about doing your best, working hard
and follow your dreams. Well,Daddy, he's leaving his dream. Okay,
that's Joe Aspata kicking off that pressconference yesterday. Twentieth manager or yeah,

(01:41:12):
twentieth manager in Francise history, Seanuh. Come to find out,
they looked at a couple of othercandidates, did not high, did not
interview buddy, and it was Joethe whole time. Jolton, Joe Espada,
the new manager. You had tocall him Joelton, Joelton, Joe.
I thought that was Jolton, JoeSharboneau. Look it up, c
h A R. I know aswell, Sharbono, you do no could

(01:41:32):
be well Joelton Joe Sharbono to checkit out? Wow did it show up?
Cleveland Indians. Joulton Joe early nineteeneighties. Well, he won the
he won the Ale Rookie of theYear. He quickly flamed out amidst injuries.
It was like him and like Iremember that Casqua and Mike tally Yarulo.

(01:41:58):
Uh yes, Joelton Joe Sharbonough bigname was rolling the fact that I
remember Joelton Joe Sharpa. That's yourwealthy useless knowledge there, Jolton Joe Aspata.
Yes. I I when I saysafe pick, safe pick doesn't mean
conservative pick. Safe pick means whatwasn't to Like I told you yesterday.

(01:42:19):
The only thing that and I'm goingto ask danon Brown this, is there
any chance that players get too comfortable? And that was my only concern because
they and that's he wouldn't just bewith him, but with anybody that was
in the dugout that's been there fora while on any team team's pretty veteran
led. They got pretty good withsome good young talent, but It almost
feels like even the veterans have alot of youth on their side, but

(01:42:43):
wisdom does that make sense? Feelslike some been there longer even though they
haven't. So, I don't know, you'd have more questions about a guy
outside the building. You would havemore questions about a guy outside the building
than you would about this guy.Now, some may say that's good,
we needed we needed a kick anyass from outside the building. But in
truth, do you We'll go findout. But I think that when it
comes to safe efficient respect knows baseballcan combine both the old school non analytics

(01:43:12):
and analytics together to get that greatfield. Probably somewhere in between Dusty and
aj Hinch, I don't know.And people talk about his leadership, rave
about his the way he organizes andyou know, the operation of the whole
thing, and his relationship with players, as long as it stays coach,
you know, manager first, buddysecond. I don't see why anybody would

(01:43:34):
criticize or have a problem with thishigher Yeah, he was actually Joe Spottle
was asked about his relationship with theAstros players, and this is what the
new manager had to say. Absolutely, I think it's important I think communication
with these players is very important,empower them to have to say in the
process. I seen this team wina lot of games, and I know

(01:43:58):
what he takes to win. Iknow how to push his players when to
push him, and I think itmatters. I think these players trust me,
but trust he's earned, and it'sa two way street. And I
think I've done a good job makingsure this player knows what he takes and
and and I think that that helpedme to be the good fit for this

(01:44:21):
job. Trust is earned. SoI think I'm with you, Sean.
I think one of the skeptical partsof me is one he's never been a
manager before, and he's he wasalso interviewed for several other manager positions brought
back for a second of you withthe Cubs. Did not get that position.
That was a little skeptical. Andthen I also was a little skeptical

(01:44:41):
because of could it be to buddyBuddy, But listening to him talk yesterday
in that press conference, I meaneverything he said, I'm it seems like
he has a very good command ofthat clubhouse already. I think he's been
in the making since twenty eighteen.Yeah, without the title of manager relationship
felt like that he seems to havehad with him is a good thing.

(01:45:03):
Listen, I'm always relationships are everythingin sports and society and life at work,
at your job, in your marriageand your friendships. Relationships, good
ones are everything. And just becausehe's been there, Like I said my
wall, the one concern is willthey be too comfortable? I also look
on the other side and say Iwould rather have them be comfortable in knowing

(01:45:26):
and trusting Joe A Spotta. Thencoming into a season while you don't really
know what to expect from the nextmanager because you're not familiar. Maybe it's
even familiarity that's even more important,because I would imagine coming to spring training,
Joe's spota probably doesn't have to saymuch. They have pretty good idea
what he expects, so you don't. You don't need a lot a whole

(01:45:48):
lot of herbage, just need someaction, and he's been taken action by
the way he's done his running springtraining. I would imagine that this is
an extremely popular hire. We knowit is with astros twitter on social media.
I would imagine it's extremely popular hirein the among players too. I

(01:46:09):
really would Yeah, I think so, and he talked about the relationship,
and then he talked about, youknow, having a good balance of analytics
and having a good balance of feelfor the game, because we know how
analytical the astros are. And Ithink that's that is where I wouldn't say
there was, you know, wherethere was a rift or anything like that,

(01:46:30):
but I think there was with DuskyBaker. I think there were probably
some disagreements where he wanted to sethis line up the way that he wanted
compared to what the front office suggested. So I think if Joe Spotta can
have a good balance of both ofthose and this is this lineup. I
mean, we've seen, we've talkedabout it. Their return to damn near
everybody except for a couple of freeagents Martin Maldonado, Ryan Stanick, Filmmaton
and Michael Brantley. Don't know ifthose guys are going to come back,

(01:46:53):
but everything else, they are builtto win. They're built to win.
So let's get to the break andwe'll continue to talk about Joe Espada being
the new manager. He talked abouthaving that balance of data and performance.
What did he say about it.Let's discuss that next right here on the
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(01:48:28):
seven ninety Prey Predyo Astros general managerDana Brown is going to join the show
next segment at eight point thirty,continuing to talk about Astros baseball. They
hire Joe A. Spot as theirnew manager. He was asked yesterday about

(01:48:57):
having a balance between data and mormants. This is what the new Skip had
to say. The balance approach betweenthe two very important. We look at
data closely, how we evaluate ourplayers for our game planning for player evaluation
is very important. But also thehuman side of things, that human behavior,
the players performance, their makeup,their toughness, what they're going through

(01:49:19):
in that moment. We got toout take those things under consideration, all
those things to make good, soliddecisions. Got to have a good balance,
got to have a good relationship withthe front office. I actually think
that's probably part of the reason hewas hired, the understanding of both relationship

(01:49:40):
for sure, But all this stuffabout relationship and all that, Let's not
forget the main reason Joe's are asidefrom relationship. He's a bag baseball guy.
Yeah he knows baseball, and youcan be. I mean, leadership
is so important and the staff aroundyou is so important. But this is
a guy who's brought substance the entiretime he's here. And I mean the

(01:50:00):
majority of the fans if they hadto vote, as we talked about,
we saw it all over Twitter.It's Joe spot and Joe spot the right
higher. Well, you never knowit's the right high until it's done right
now. Sure excuse me, Surefeels like it. They felt it was
such a good hire that then thedidn't even go after and get bigger names
or try to even interview bigger namesbecause they got a guy right in the
building. It was almost as ifthis was a no brainer and simple for

(01:50:24):
them. I don't. I mean, this may have been a decision that
they had mine months ago, ifDusty was walking away or if they were
moving on from it. So fromhim, I don't, at least going
in, he checks all the boxes. The only thing he doesn't check is
managerial experience, and you can't getit and then you get it. So

(01:50:45):
yeah, I'm I'm I this willjust be we put it this way.
You're not going to go into springtraining saying, gosh, I hope that
there's a great relationship between the generalmanager and and the manager and between the
players and the manager. What arewe going to You're not going to go
in there thinking that it'll be big. As a matter of fact, it'll
quite It'll be fun to watch himhow he handles it, but in truth

(01:51:06):
it'll be very anti climactic. Notfor him. He's excited. But I'm
saying, and I mean that isa compliment, meaning there's no drama with
this. There's no controversy that surroundsthis. There's no you sure you went
and got him. You got aguy who's been sitting in that dugout for
six years with these guys when Imean sitting next to them and being a
baseball guy and being relied on forinformation and leadership for a while. The

(01:51:30):
only thing that's changed title and salaryand expectations for him. Yeah, he's
he's managed or he's been under twodifferent managers A. J. Hinch and
Dusty Begger. Dusty Begger's gonna beHall of Famer Dusty Beker won a World
Series. A j Hinch won aWorld Series. He's been with three different
general managers, Dana Brown being thethird. All of that being said,
and working with front offices and thingslike that, and he said it,

(01:51:53):
him and Dana Brown had conversations sinceday one of Dana Brown's tenure here with
the Astros. So those relationships arealready there. And one thing that's I
think pretty quiet, i mean quiteobvious, is that there's not going to
be you know, if ares aplayers, matter of fact, you're probably

(01:52:13):
gonna be able to finish each other'ssentences because you're gonna know. I'm sure
situations go on when he's sitting inthat dugout and so as you know,
working with players that they kind ofget a feel for, Joe would do
this right, so when there's nosurprises. But I would imagine for Joe
the challenge for him. I wouldthink for Joe a spotta would be two

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when they get to training camp.Where's that? What are you going to
do to create the edge? Youknow what I mean to to to stay
away from the car? Oh,Joe, here, we know how training
camp works. Here, spring trainingworks it works like this to make sure
there's that edge and all guys dosomething different. Plus, the one thing
about it is you don't have toexplain to some new manager what the expectations

(01:52:55):
are here. And that's the onething that goes with the pressure. The
expectations here aren't just to win thedivision. The expectations are. Matter of
fact, they didn't even get totheir expectations this year, even with all
the injuries, their expectations to beplaying in the last series of the year.
There it is, and getting tothe ALCS, well, it's an
incredible accomplishment for this franchise. Theexpectations. That's not enough. Now,

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and Joe's seen it and seen howtwo different, completely different personalities as managers
handle this and three different gms.What hasn't he seen as an assistant as
a bench coach, Well, whathasn't he seen. I'll tell you what
he hasn't seen here? Losing?Yeah he has, he hasn't seen that.

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But the winning has been contagious fora while. Now. His job
is just to keep it rolling in. I think most people have a pretty
good gut feeling that this is goingto work just fine. Yeah, So
now he's got a Joe Spot hasgot to hire a bench coach. And
apparently, from what I read yesterday, Gary Pettis was going to go over
to the Angels to join Ron Washington. Him and Joe Spot had a conversation.

(01:54:08):
Pettis is going to stay and bethe third base coach. So there's
one. But he's going to haveto Him and Dana Brown are gonna have
to sit down and put together astaff. Omar Lopez could he be the
next bench coach? To me,you're a bench coach and while while Dana
and maybe I should ask him thistoo, how the decision? But I
would think, and I may becompletely wrong. If I was a GM

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in any sport, the bench coachis gonna be hired by the manager.
Now, as long as there's prothere's no past that's got anything somewhere.
There's what happened here ten years ago. You know what happened to that guy?
Just nothing, just a baseball guyand gone through. I think Joe
Spotted deserves the right to hire theguy he wants sitting next him. Yeah,
I don't think, in my opinion, unless it was some crazy off

(01:54:53):
the wall hire, which I wouldn'tthink happened. I don't think that that's
the general manager or Jim Crane's job. I think it's the I mean,
I wouldn't want you telling me whatoffensive coordinator to hire. No, if
I was the head coach, that'smy job, and you know now that
we're attached to the hip, I'lllive with it. I trust the guy.
Don't tell me how you trust itfrom afar. I'm going to tell
you how I trust it from upclose. And I would think that Dana

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Brown's gonna trust What did Dane Brownealways say on the show, it's Dusty's
job with the lineup? Correct?So I would imagine if it's dusty job
with the lineup, it's Joe Spott'sjob to choose who's going to be sitting
next to him in the dugout.Yeah, it would only make sense for
that, right, I mean,he's the guy that's going to be working
hand in hand with the bench coach, not Dana Brown. Yes, this
also answers a couple other questions.If you thought who was in charge,

(01:55:35):
we know Dana Brown wanted Joe Spottygot him. Yeah, that's got him.
Good point. So if you wereconcerned about well the you know,
former player are going to have abig say and this he then, no,
Dana Brown said, did exactly whathe said Jim Crane was gonna do.
Jim's basically empowered him to make thisdecision along with Jim Crane. And

(01:55:55):
it was pretty seamless. May ittook longer than you wanted it to meaning
it as a fan, but prettyseamless. Man, Yeah, it was
pretty seamless. And that was thewhole thing. Like the talk all is
Jim Green turned in into Jerry Jones? Is he the next Jerry Jones?
Well, Dana Brown said that hethought Jim Green was going to let him
run this search and he did.Sure appears that way because he and all

(01:56:17):
the talks was it. Dana lovedJoe Spota and he got yeah, and
it's really cool when you don't haveto go far to interview your guy,
right and not a bad gig andeverything he said yesterday, you know,
very humbled, very appreciative of theopportunity, but very first Oh yeah,
no question. I think it's importanttoo that I think that did Joe Aspota

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that have in that you want thingsto run as smoothly now everybody likes a
little bit of you know, alittle bit of off the beat and pass
sometimes to shake your team up right, But I think that you really like
when things are seamless. It's like, this was just easy. This is
who our organization is. Everybody inthe building knows what's up. Let's just
do our Yeah, and and Joe'squalified for this. We're going to welcome

(01:57:02):
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The Sean Salisbury Show continues most definitelyon Sports Talk seven ninety. Yeah,
we're gonna welcome in. Astro's generalmanager Dana Brown to the show. Were
you sure are? Dana Brown joinsus all those weekly visits all year long

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and kind enough to join us.I know it's been busy, but great
to have him on here as theoff season rolls on, Dana, thanks
for spending time with us. Howdifficult was this choice to make with Joe
Spotta and congratulations on it too aswell. Not difficult at all. I
mean, you know, Joe's beenin this organization, you know, for

(01:59:14):
a while, He's paid his dues. I love this guy as a baseball
man. Uh. He's very wellrounded, leadership skills, people's skills,
knows the game in and out,good relationship with the players. I'm excited
about this one. You just younamed a lot of great traits, Dana,

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And you did you know Joe atall other than no of him before
you came here, had met him. I just knew of him, just
knew of him. Uh. Youknow, I've been in the game so
long. I scouted him right backin the day, right, you know
so, but I didn't really knowhim until I got here. And as
I said yesterday, you know,you know, when you're in a general

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manager's position, you're instantly interviewing yourstaff, even though you know they don't
know that you're interviewing them, andso you know, you're constantly having different
conversations, you know, about baseball, family and other things. And so
I hit it off with Joe prettywell, and so I thought he was,
you know, a really really goodcandidate to lead and be a manager

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for this club. Astro's GM DanaBrown joins us UH just after the hiring
of the press conference yesterday with Joea spot who's getting his first opportunity to
manage to be right here in Houstonand a fan favorite. And people been
talking about Joe for a while.So dat it with this? I mean
in your position, in a leadershipposition, and like you said, interviewing

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people when you're really not interviewing him, because that's what you do. We
all do that. People happen tosell themselves. We all do every day.
But when you came here, wasthere a watching Joe work? Was
there a time and maybe something wedon't even know about Joe that you discovered
that you didn't know that you saidthat guy is prime for the next level
up sooner than later. Was therewas there a situation that stuck out you

(02:01:04):
said, this guy's different. Well, I knew he was running the entire
spring training and that's a very difficultthing to do. I mean, I've
been around the game a while andrunning a spring training and it was seamless,
you know, and he had beendoing that. And then you know,
I got to be around him alittle bit and I said, Hey,
this guy's a humble guy. Uh. You know, he's got a

(02:01:26):
voice. Uh, he has strongconvictions, and but yet he has that
unique ability to remain humble and behumble. And so you know, I
looked for humility and you know,leadership roles because as a leader, you're
gonna have to learn how to listen, but yet you're gonna have to know
when have the voice to to toto to make tough decisions. Dan,

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I'm curious. One of the thingsI was talking about before the hire was
done on when you're choosing a managerand you know, leadership man and everything
we do and in sports as wellobviously, and my thing is will the
ability or the fact that Joe hasbeen around here and there's that people know
him, the relationships he's built,the oh Joe's here and the players and

(02:02:15):
the relationships and I know you spenttime on our show talking about how important
those are, but is there anypoint in time And I said to one
the only thing that he'd have toguard against is players getting too comfortable because
he's been around that long and theyknow him. Any thought of that or
is he you know where it's likemy dad, My dad was my dad

(02:02:35):
first and my friends second. Andwere you able to see that delineation where
it's like he has that hand AndI'm not worried about them getting too casual
with Joe because he's been here.Yeah, I don't think that that's even
any equation, to be honest,I think, first of all, we
have a great group of players.Uh, these guys have so much,

(02:02:56):
so much respect for the game.This winning culture here Houston is real.
I mean seven straights, Yes,is during that time three you know,
three World Series visits, Uh youknow two victories? Uh, these guys
know how to win. These guysare true professionals. I don't think these

(02:03:17):
guys are looking for and out.I don't think these guys are looking for
wiggle room. I think these guysare looking for leadership. And you know,
when you have a guy like Joewho's worked under some really good managers,
you know, most recent being underDusty. I gotta tell you this
is you know, we always think, you know, we got to go

(02:03:38):
outside the organization, we got todo this. Well, I got news
for you, man. The onthe other side, I've been in a
lot of organizations and I've seen managers. You know, you've got guys that
have been passed up, you know, and so there's some good managers out
there now that were passed up.You look at them. I won't go
into detail, but you look atthe managers that were in the postseason,

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the organizations that they came from,and you'll see that this guy's been passed
up even within their own organization.So that's one thing I didn't want to
do is make that mistake. AndI wanted to make sure that, hey,
there's a reason why, you know, Houston Astros have been successful,
you know, and there's a reasonwhy we're on this good run. You
know, you've got good people.You know, we promoted people within the

(02:04:21):
front office because we have good peoplein this organization. You don't always have
to, you know, go outsidethe organization. It's not about you know,
Dana Brown coming to put an hitstep. You know, it's about,
Hey, who are the good peoplein this organization that we can promote
and then if we have gaps,we can fill those gaps, you know,
uh, if necessary. But atthe end of the day, when

(02:04:44):
you're winning and you're on a rolelike this, you've got to keep that
thing going. And you know,the worst thing you could do is bring
somebody in from the outside and theydon't know this culture and and and they
don't have that flow, and thenthings fall apart. So we feel real
good about Joe. Joe's got thoseleadership skills and you know, let's roll
Houston. Let's roll there, yougo, astros GM Dana Brown joins us
for a handful more minutes, gratefulto have him visiting with us after the

(02:05:06):
hiring of their new manager, Joe. A spot up. Okay, Dana,
how did you interview, literally faceto face, interview any other candidate?
Uh? Yeah, but I'm notI don't want to get into you
know, who we interviewed because Idon't you know, I don't think it's
fair to them. I don't thinkit's fair to Joe, you know.
Uh, just just understand. Wepulled the list of names. We went

(02:05:28):
through some interviews, and at theend of the day, Uh, we
felt really good about Joe. Imean, Joe stacks up really well.
There's no secret why other organizations werecoming in to find out, Hey,
what are they doing well in Houston? Let me let me talk to And
I'm just I'm I feel blessed thathe was. He was never hired.
He could have been hired, youknow, with the way the managers are

(02:05:49):
changing today, he could have easilybeen, you know, in another spot.
And I feel real honored that hewas, that he was still here.
And so we're excited, man,We're we're really excited about Joe getting
his first opportunity. The other thing, you know, I've been in the
grind for a long time, andI know what that feels like to go

(02:06:10):
on interviews and not get the job. And you know, Joe's been in
the grind, man, he's beendoing this thing, and so you know,
I thought it was easy. Uh. You know, I thought,
going through the interview process, like, hey, this guy stacks up,
and you're always looking to get guysfrom winning organization, you know right here

(02:06:30):
in the house organization. Yeah,yeah, not about you don't have to
go far to interview him. That'sfor damn sure. Dana Brown asked for
GM a couple more minutes when youdecided and said that's my guy. After
you know, after your process,when you went up to mister Crane and
said I want Joe A Spotta,what was his initial reaction. Yeah,
Jim was on board. You know, Jim had an opportunity to be around

(02:06:53):
Joe also. You know, hesaid, Hey, I want you to
take the lead on this thing.And you know, I kept Jim in
the loop the whole time, youknow, as to what we were doing.
And you know, Jim, Jimwas right there every step of the
way as I was giving him updateand he had a really good feel for
Joe A. Spotta. It was. It was the perfect candidate because you

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know, he's in a winning organization. He had a relationship with the owner,
he gained a relationship with the GMthat just came in. He worked
under really good management managers, andyou know, he was a true servant,
hard worker, getting the job done, waiting for his opportunity, and
sure enough it came. And andthen we're excited here in Houston, ashles

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GM. Dana Brown joins us hereon Sports Talk seven ninety Sean Stalisbury show.
All right, Danny, your firstmanagerial hire as a GM. Awesome.
Everybody's on board. Now let's takethe next step, your first full
off season as a GM. Giveme your priorities this offseason in order now
that you got the manager. Yeah, I mean the first already is we've

(02:08:00):
got to get a backup catcher forthe d you know, and then we're
gonna try to, you know,strengthen the pen. And you can strengthen
the pen two ways. Right,you can go out and get a starter
if there's somebody out there on themarket. You know that's reasonable. You
go out and get a starter.You push one of your starters to the
pen. Or you know, youcan roll with the starters that we have
and go out and get a reliever, you know, knowing that sometime in

(02:08:24):
July, you're gonna get Garcia back, You're gonna get the Colors back.
And honestly, we're really set upwell, we're set up well here.
You know, we need guys togo out and have pretty good years and
we'll be right back in this thing. Man, We're one game away from
getting back to the World Series.I keep looking at this and then you
know, sometimes it teaches me upat nights like one game one, one
game, right, and uh,you know it's so hard to do.

(02:08:46):
You know, you grind through onehundred and sixty two games. You know,
you you get to the playoffs andone sixty one, you win the
Division of one sixty two, youget deep up to the postseason, you
come up one game short, andI think we get the backup catcher and
we strengthen our bullpen, we'll beright back in the mix. Is this
like, you know, one ofthose concerts you go to where everybody's jumping

(02:09:09):
around and dancing, or is thisoffseason kind of a slow dance not a
lot of people involve, meaning howdeep dive are you going into free agency?
Or is it just a few pieces? Because you talked about it's not
like this team's cupboards bear, Imean, you're pretty loaded up. So
is this I mean, is therea wow factor move that needs to happen
outside the building this offseason? Well, I'll tell you this. We're going

(02:09:33):
to be creative, right, andso if here's an opportunity to go get
that other starter and really strengthen thatrotation, we're going to do it.
We're having meetings every day right now, trying to get creative. Okay,
what can we do here? Whatcan we do here? Can we make
a trade here? So we're reallyreally in the grind right now. We're

(02:09:56):
anticipating something happening, right and sowe're ready to to go where you know,
we're we're we got hands up wherewe're on fire. I mean I
wouldn't say that dancing, but youknow we're on fire, looking trying to
get that next move, knowing thatwe came one game short, uh,
and we want to get back andwe want to win it, man,
And you know Joe's firing up.He knows what it takes the way.

(02:10:18):
And so you know, we gothands up. You know, I wouldn't
say we're dancing, but we gothands up. But we'll be dancing all
the way back. You know,we can get back to this World Series.
We'll be dancing in October. Soyeah, you know, we're we're
ready to go. We're ready togo. And I think the expectation we're
staying on the show is that thisteam's so set up that it's not just

(02:10:39):
winning a division, which is partof the goal, it's winning the World
Series. That's what this that's whatthe standard's been over these last seven eight
years, and you guys are rightin the thick of it. I'll end
it with this one with you talkabout creativity. How creative are you going
to get to be? Money wise? If it takes them overspending on a
free agent to go get him theyou think can get you over the hump,

(02:11:01):
but you know, deep down itmay be a little more than we're
comfortable with. How much leeway areyou going to have? Well, that's
all about being creative, you know. Sometimes you have to get creative and
figure out, hey, if Imake this trade, you know, I
might be able to move this moneyaround, and then I may be able
to acquire this guy. And soI just think it's gonna be an all

(02:11:22):
out, all out blitz on beingcreative, you know, keeping Jim Crane
in the loop, you know,and letting him know, hey, well
we can do this, so wecould do that, and and and try
to, you know, as anorganization, try to figure out together what's
the best move going forward to getback to the World Series. One game
away, a few wise decisions away. And I think at the end of

(02:11:46):
the day, you know, we'rewe're gonna be all right, and we're
gonna get as I said, we'regonna get some players back. We're gonna
get our pitching back like in July. So we're gonna even have a stronger
rotation. And so you know,we're won good move or two good moves
away from really turning the corner.One last thing I meant to ask is
Joe Aspota. Does he have theentire freedom to hire his bench who he

(02:12:09):
wants in his dugout? Is ithis decision? Yeah, I think anytime
you make big decisions like that,you know, it's it's it's it's the
organization. You know, you takeeveryone's opinion, you know, the people
who are going to have to workclosely with them. Of course, Joe's
going to have to be very comfortable, you know with the bench coach.
You know, I like to sitdown with him. You know. So

(02:12:31):
we we want to come together andkeep everyone involved in this because this is
a team sport, This is afamily atmosphere. This is like, hey,
get it done. We all haveopinions on what we need to do
to get better, and so youknow, we'll talk to Jim Crane about
it. We'll keep everybody in theloop, but this will be an organization.
They'll move and you know, wewon't do anything where Joe will be

(02:12:54):
unhappy or I'll be unhappy or JimCrane will be onhappy. We're going to
work this thing together because that's whatwinners do. Winners collaborate and they get
it done. There's wisdom in amultitude of council That's how I look at
that. And of course you'll announceall those decisions on this show because we've
been in the dugout with you thewhole year. So I'm pretty sure you'll

(02:13:16):
just call me in the morning saySean, we got announcement. I'm gonna
come on your show and do it. That's okay, man, You could
text me anytime. I'm up atthree thirty. My man, you know
that you can get to me anytime. We'll break all that news for you
right here, Yes you will.I appreciate it, and data congratulations,
not only in your first year here. I know we wanted to extend and
you do two one series longer.You got your guys the manager and have
one hell of an off season here, and we look forward to many more

(02:13:39):
talks leading into spring training, andwe're excited for you man, and we
appreciate you very much and congrats.Absolutely. I enjoyed being on with you
guys. Thanks, Dan, appreciateyour time. That's a great Dana Brown,
Astros GM. Good stuff. We'llcome back and discuss it. Unequivocally,
it's obvious they got their guy anddid their due diligence and it all
came up. Bingo banngo, bongoJoe Spata. Sports Talk seven ninety Next

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The Shawn Salisbury Show with Sean Salisburyand Brian Lima on Sports Talk seven nineties.

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Just wrapped up visit with Astro's generalmanager Dana Brown talking about the hiring
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different energy from Dana Brown. Shawnfeel like he is extremely excited and happy

(02:14:52):
with this hiring. He just seems, well, it got way more jacked
up than normal. I think nothingbut respect for Dusty Baker, and but
you come in most players, mostcoaches, most anybody who hires something in
their business, and GM wants tohire the guy they handpick. It's normal,
and I think after the grind ofa season, take a little time

(02:15:15):
off, go to the meetings,come on back, you hire your manager.
I think there's a sense of reliefbecause you got the hiring done and
got a guy that was in yourbuilding and that you loved. I think
that there's that energy you hear.I think is also the excitement of what
the offseason has entailed. And heprobably got a little bit of rest since
then after the season and grinding onit and still trying to figure you could
tell to the passion of one game, one game away from the World Series.

(02:15:37):
So it's not like you need alot of wholesale changes, but it
seems like they're going to be active. And as he said, use his
quote quote creative in quote. Soyeah, the energy you could tell.
He sounded like he's ready for thenext grind, which is this offseason and
what that's going to take another seasonin itself to get your baseball club ready.
And so I'd love to hear whathe had to say. A lot

(02:16:01):
of good stuff that we can takefrom that from that interview from Dana Brown,
and he's always extremely transparent with us. Yeah, and it sounded to
me like, you know, theytalked to some people, but it was
going to take a world beater totake Joe Spott's job from him. Yeah,
And I think I think one thing, you know, he could have
Dana Brown could have easily told uswho they hired or I'm sorry, who

(02:16:22):
they interviewed, and brought some spotlightto those guys. But yet he said,
it's not fair to them and it'snot fair to Joe spot it And
I like that. I think that'sjust that's very transparent, very honorable as
the right word. But I justthink that's the right way to do things.
But at the end of the day, he said, Joe A.
Spott, it was the guy.And the biggest thing I took away from
that visit was that he said againJim Crane said, hey, you take

(02:16:48):
the lead on this. So everythingelse that we heard that Jeff Bagwell was
going to be involved. He mayhave had some opinions here and there,
but it seems like from what we'veheard, and you just heard him yourself,
the our manager, Dana Brown talkingabout it, that Jim Crane said,
hey, you need to take thereins on this. All right,
there's a couple other things that DanaBrown said in that interview. A big

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(02:19:52):
scenarios. Now we're talking Astros baseball. Sean. One of the things that
you asked him was a about themoney this offseason, and uh, you
know what we're gonna going to Uhwe'll get that. You know what,
We're gonna replay that answer tripley.Can you get that? Uh did you
go ahead and get some of thataudio fired up? Yeah, yeah,

(02:20:16):
let's go ahead and do that,just just real quick. You know.
He talked about creativity, and uh, I've seen some things on Twitter and
some other articles. Uh, TrevorBauer is a name that keeps getting brought
up. I think they're that creative. No, just hard doesn't have anything
to do with money. I thinkall the other bs it goes with him.

(02:20:39):
Well, he's a talented guy,but I think you can find somebody
that can do that, can getpeople out. You may not have now,
I wasn't there. I only goby what I know and read right
and here, if you think he'sa great player and that none of that
bothered you, and that he didn'tdo anything, didn't go for it.

(02:21:00):
But I think there's probably some peopleout there that you could probably go get
as well that may give you thesame performance. Yeah. Yeah, at
this stage, I feel like ifhe does get back into Major League Baseball,
there should be some teams that goafter him. I just don't think
it'll be here. Oh, therewill be. Listen, here's regardless of
what we know, how the depthof Trevor Bauers off the field issues.

(02:21:24):
All right, this team, inthis franchise is built on chemistry, smooth
road, doing it right and regardlessof how good a picture he is,
and maybe what you think, theperception is that some people think he's not

(02:21:45):
a good guy. That's the perceptionfrom some And if there's four or five
guys in that locker room at clubhousewho feel the same way, Now you
say, well, tough enough isit'll help your team win? The question
is will it help your team win? A five other guys checked out.
Now if he was so good thathe gets everybody out and that, you
say, now we've done our deepdive. We've done we've looked, investigated

(02:22:07):
this, look deep into it.He didn't do anything wrong. I'm saying,
if that was what they came upwith, then go for it.
Now you're gonna have to deal withanswering those questions as to why. Okay,
no big deal. It's called conflict. If you've got answers for the
conflict, then give them the answers. But my concern would be, now
I know, pros or pros,you go out there and swing the back.

(02:22:28):
You're not thinking about well, TrevorBauers and our dugout, I can't
hit today. But there's just afeeling of disruption that most normal people take
it to work with them. Yeah, they just do. It's hard to
eliminate. Yeah, they can't checkit at the dome. It's hard even
the good ones sometimes, like youknow, you get a fight with your
wife or meaning a disagreement, nota little of a fight, but you

(02:22:50):
know, and you come to theballpark, or you missed the kids,
say because you were late doing somethingand you missed a kid's concert or a
ballgame that you really wanted to goto and they were counting on you,
or you're just having a disagreement.Listen, I would worry more about you
if it didn't bother you when yougot to the ballpark. Right, somebody
going through a divorce, they walkinto the clubhouse. Now walking up to
the plate. You got to dialin and do your job. But it's

(02:23:13):
tough to hang that jacket on thatstuff on the outside of the locker room,
go and say, oh, mylife's perfect, and then the second
you're done, change the emotion.You got to go back home and you're
in a disagreement, or you're goingthrough with a sick parent or whatever it
might be. And the problem isif you've got to walk into a locker
room where every day I'll just tellyou this, and I'm not saying it
would be the case, but here'sthe if factor about you mentioned in Bower.

(02:23:35):
Imagine going to work every day,and I guarantee we've all been there
that in the same room you're workingor meeting that there's a person that sets
across from you, that is despised, that is toxic, that is that
is just everything they do is eitherto grind on people, to put it

(02:23:56):
n you know, just constantly.What's the word I'm looking at like a
fly that just with a fly,you can't just keep it leave me alone?
Yeah, stop doesn't the right,That can't that that's that's not a
clutter free mind, man. Andif you're not clutter free when you go
to the plate, or go tothe ballpark, or go to your job,
in any job, if you haven'tcleared that clutter, you're host.

(02:24:18):
So if I'm just giving you bothsides, like I said, if you
think Bauer's clean and didn't do anythingwrong, he's an extremely talented guy,
and on this team he'd probably wintwenty games eighteen games being a little bit
hyper, but you get my point. You would be if he can.
And if you think, well,we did all our due diligence, he
did nothing off the field. Thiswas all You're still gonna have to deal
with some other people's perception that didn'tdo their due diligence. And if he

(02:24:39):
did do those things or somewhere inbetween, I don't think you can touch
him with ten foot pall. Somebodywill, But you don't need that here.
You're one game away. If TrevorBauer was the entire difference in getting
you there, and you didn't carewhat your players thought, didn't go sign
him if if there was no issue. But for me, I think you
have to. You talk about youlike that comp Roddy in the clubhouse and

(02:25:01):
what Joe as spotter brings to it. Are you willing to take the risk
at five players and the team thinkhe's a dog, not a spot of
But Trevor Bauer, I'll go backto this. Does the talent trump the
migraine? Right? You tell me? I don't think so. Does the
talent take away if the talent's biggerthan the migraine and the production bring him

(02:25:22):
in. If the migraine in thiscase, this isn't just a headache,
dude, We're talking about stuff thatthat is over the line. If it
happened the way the stuff that youread and it was investigated they put on
news and radio and TV and thatyou're read. If that's the case,
that's not just a headache, myfriend, that is a that's a migraine.
But that is. It's awful ifthat's the case. But I wasn't

(02:25:46):
there. I don't know what thewoman. I don't know in those situations,
and we all think we do.But if you're going to do that,
there's a lot of due diligence thatwould have to take place. My
gut feeling is Trevor Bauer is notpitching here. I don't think. He
doesn't seem to fit what they're tryingto get accomplished. I don't think so.
I just the word creative, Andagain, I understand they're trying to
get creative with the money and youdon't want to go for the luxury tax,

(02:26:09):
the threshold and things like that.But the word creative used it several
times, So I'm thinking, hmm, creative. And then I saw they
put up his stats a couple Ithink last week he bitched pretty well overseas
and he was trying to get backinto Major League Baseball. And then you
know there was some stuff on hislegal team and so forth and so on,
and I know some fans that Ifollow and have seen discussions have brought

(02:26:31):
him up. Could the Astros tryand go get him? I think the
talent's there, but I just don'tthink that they're going to want to bring
in. I think he would bea He doesn't fit this clubhouse, right,
he said too many dumb ass thingsthat come out of his dumb ass
mouth. Okay, can you imaginethe layers you got to go through to
peel that onion back to find outseverything's right and by the time that the
offseason will be over right, Ithink that there's probably more efficient options.

(02:26:58):
Makes sense? Yeah, I thinkso as well. I just think that
you know what they have built hereand Dania Brown talked about it. The
winning culture is real here in Houston. You're not gonna bring in a guy
like Trevor Bauer that's gonna potentially screwthat up, right, he just doesn't
fit. Well, what's bigger herethe risk of the reward The risk,
no question, And if that's theway they feel, stay away. Yeah.
Again, I mean they made somemoves. Robertuosuna he had the was

(02:27:24):
a domestic violence allegations and things likethat a couple of years ago, but
that was Jeff Luna as the GM. They vetted that situation and felt that
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Alma, Emmanuel Elmore, Joe Spotofficially the new manager of the Houston as
we had on Dana Brown the generalmanager at eight point thirty. If you
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ninety dot com Broncos beat the billsof money and football. We've talked c
J. Stroud, the MVP conversation, We've talked college football playoff scenarios.
Now we're talking Astros baseball. Sean. One of the things that you asked

(02:29:11):
him was about the money this offseason, and uh, you know what we're
gonna going to Uh we'll get that. You know what, We're gonna replay
that answer, tripley. Can youget that? Uh? Did you go
ahead and get some of that audiofired up? Yeah, you know,
let's go ahead and do that,just just real quick. You know,

(02:29:33):
we talked about creativity and uh,I've seen some things on Twitter and some
other articles. Uh, Trevor Baueris the name that keeps getting brought up.
I think they're that creative. No, just hard doesn't have anything to
do with money. I think allthe other bs it goes with him.

(02:29:54):
Well, he's a talented guy,but I think you can find somebody that
can do that, can get peopleout. You may not have now I
wasn't there. Only go by whatI know and read right and here if
you think he's a great player andthat none of that bothered you, and
that he didn't do anything, didn'tgo for it. But I think there's

(02:30:15):
probably some people out there that youcould probably go get as well that may
give you the same performance. Yeah, yeah there At this stage, I
feel like if he does get backinto Major League Baseball, there should be
some teams that go after him.I just don't think it'll be here.
Oh there will be. Listen,here's regardless of what we know, how
the depth of Trevor Bauers off thefield issues. All right, this team,

(02:30:41):
in this franchise is built on chemistry, smooth road, doing it right,
and regardless of how good a picturehe is, and maybe what you
think, the perception is that somepeople think he's not a good guy.
That's the perception from some And ifthere's four or five guys in that locker

(02:31:05):
room at clubhouse who feel the sameway, Now you say, well,
tough enough is it'll help your teamwin? The question is will it help
your team win if five other guyshave checked out? Now, if he
was so good that he gets everybodyout, and that you say, now
we've done our deep dive. We'vedone we've looked investigated this, look deep
into it. He didn't do anythingwrong. I'm saying, if that was

(02:31:26):
what they came up with, thengo for it. Now you're gonna have
to deal with answering those questions asto why. Okay, no big deal.
It's called conflict. If you've gotanswers for the conflict, then give
them the answers. But my concernwould be, now I know pros or
pros, you go out there andswing the back. You're not thinking about
well, Trevor Bauers and our dugoutI can't hit today. But there's just
a feeling of disruption that most normalpeople take it to work with them.

(02:31:54):
Yeah, they just do. It'shard to eliminate. Yeah, they can't
check it at the dome. It'shard even the good ones. Sometimes,
like you know, you get afight with your wife or meaning a disagreement,
not a little a fight, butyou know, and you come to
the ballpark or you missed the kids, say because you were late doing something
and you missed a kid's concert ora ballgame that you really wanted to go
to and they were counting on you, or you're just having a disagreement.

(02:32:16):
Listen, I would worry more aboutyou if it didn't bother you when you
got to the ballpark, right,somebody going through a divorce, they walk
into the clubhouse. Now walking upto the plate. You got to dial
in and do your job. Butit's tough to hang that jacket on that
stuff on the outside of the lockerroom, go and say, oh,
my life's perfect. And then thesecond you're done, change the emotion.
You got to go back home andyou're in a disagreement or you're going through

(02:32:37):
with a sick parent or whatever itmight be. And the problem is if
you got to walk into a lockerroom where every day I'll just tell you
this, and I'm not saying itwould be the case, but here's the
if factor about you mentioned in Bauer. Imagine going to work every day and
I guarantee we've all been there thatin the same room you're working or meeting,

(02:32:58):
that there's a person that sets acrossfrom you that is despised, that
is toxic, that is that isjust everything they do is either to grind
on people, to put it notyou know, just constantly. What's the
word I'm looking at like a flythat just with a fly, you can't
just keep it leave me alone?Yeah, stop does the right that can't

(02:33:20):
that that's that's not a clutter freemind, man. And if you're not
clutter free when you go to theplate, or go to the ballpark,
or go to your job, inany job, if if you haven't cleared
that clutter, you're host. Soif I'm just giving you both sides,
like I said, if you thinkBower's clean and didn't do anything wrong,
he's an extremely talented guy and onthis team he'd probably win twenty games eighteen

(02:33:41):
games, being a little bit hyper, but you get my point, you
would be if he can. Andif you think, well, we did
all our due diligence, he didnothing off the field. This was all
you're still gonna have to deal withsome other people's perception that didn't do their
due diligence. And if he diddo those things or somewhere in between,
I don't think you can touch himwith ten foot pall. So somebody will,
but you don't need that here.You're one game away. If Trevor

(02:34:05):
Bauer was the entire difference in gettingyou there, and you didn't care what
your players thought, didn't go signhim if there was no issue. But
for me, I think you haveto. You talk about you like that
camaraderie in the clubhouse and what Joeas spot of brings to it. Are
you willing to take the risk atfive players and the team think he's a
dog, not a spot. ButTrevor Bauer, I'll go back to this.
Does the talent, yeah, trumpthe migraine, right, you tell

(02:34:28):
me? I don't think so.Does the talent take away? If the
talent's bigger than the migraine and theproduction bring him in. If the migraine
in this case, this isn't justa headache, dude, we're talking about
stuff that that is over the line. If it happened the way the stuff
that you read and it was investigated, that they put on news and radio

(02:34:50):
and TV and that you read.If that's the case, that's not just
a headache, my friend, thatis a that's a migraine, but that
is It's awful if that the case. But I wasn't there. I don't
know what the woman. I don'tknow in those situations and we all think
we do. But if you're goingto do that, there's a lot of
due diligence that would have to takeplace. My gut feeling is Trevor Bauers

(02:35:11):
not pitching here. Yeah, Idon't think he doesn't seem to fit what
they're trying to get accomplished. Idon't think so. I just the word
creative. And again, I understandthey're trying to get creative with the money
and you don't want to go forthe luxury tax, the threshold and things
like that. But the word creativeused it several times, so I'm thinking,
hmm, creative. And then Isaw they put up his stats a

(02:35:31):
couple I think last week he bitchedpretty well overseas and he was trying to
get back into Major League Baseball,and then you know there's some stuff on
his legal team and so forth andso on. And I know some fans
that I follow and have seen discussionshave brought him up. Could the Astros
try and go get him? Ithink the talent's there, but I just
don't think that they're going to wantto bring in. I think he would

(02:35:52):
be a He doesn't fit this clubhouse, right. He said too many dumb
ass things that come out of hisdumb ass mouth. Can you imagine the
layers you got to go through topeel that onion back to find out if
everything's right By the time that theoff season will be over right, I
think that there's probably more efficient optionsmakes sense, Yeah, I think so

(02:36:13):
as well. I just think thatyou know what they have built here,
and Dana Brown talked about it.The winning culture is real here in Houston.
You're not gonna bring in a guylike Trevor Bauer that's gonna potentially screw
that up, right, he justdoesn't fit. Well, what's bigger here
the risk of the reward The risk, no question, And if that's the
way they feel, stay away.Yeah again, I mean they made some

(02:36:35):
moves. Robertuosuna he had the wasa domestic violence allegations and things like that
a couple of years ago, butthat was Jeff Luna as the GM.
They vetted that situation and felt thatit was okay to bring him in.
He didn't disrupt any clubhouses, buthe was never outspoken about things. Trevor
Bauer just sometimes just doesn't shut up. I mean, I may be wrong,

(02:36:56):
just doesn't feel right. It's notone of the Like I said,
I done any deep dive other thanwhat everybody else has read. I don't
know Trevor Bauer's inside him. Talkedto the people he's with or is him
or any of it. But itjust doesn't feel like you'd walk into spring
trade. Put it this way,you know what the biggest side showed spring
training would be everybody want to talkto him. He wouldn't even be focused

(02:37:16):
on baseball. He's a talented guy. The question is is there talent there
that completely eliminates all the other stuff. And like I said, I'm not
accusing anybody of anything. I'm justgoing by what I read. I have
no idea. If I was thegeneral manager, you know what, I
do a deep dive into anybody thatI'm interested in getting. I would have
somebody look into it. But myfirst initial was the thought would be that

(02:37:41):
he doesn't fit while we're trying toget accomplished, right, That's what I
would think. Yeah, I think. And there's other names that are going
to be out there that could comein and come right into this staff and
produce because you're not getting Lance Colorsback or Luis Garcia until at least July.
So what the rotation looks like isis isn't there more of efficient ways
to spend your money? Yeah?Yeah, there's you know what just in

(02:38:03):
your PR machine, right man?You just trade Kyle Tucker and then you
go sign show he Otani you knowwhat, just figured out that'd be creative,
but he can't pitch, so thatthat would be creative. You mean
you mean yeah just for this year? Yeah, for the because of Tommy
John and yeah, that injury.But yeah, I feel like there's other
ways to spend your money. It'sgonna be interesting. Uh, let's continue
to talk astros Yan, your Diazcatcher the future. What are you gonna

(02:38:28):
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Salisbury Show. Here on Sports Talkseven ninety Sean Bryn and tripole E Joe
spot officially the new manager of theHouston Astros. Corbyn Carrol Gunner Henderson winning
n L and a L Rookie ofthe Year, both of those selections unanimous.
Broncos beat the Bills in Monday NightFootball. Talking about the Astros hiring
Joe A. Spotta, we hadDana Brown on a couple of segments ago

(02:40:46):
and Sewn asked him about getting creativeabout We asked about, uh, the
free agency, and Dana Brown talkedabout being creative, and then Sean asked
him this, With you talk aboutcreativity, how creative are you going to

(02:41:09):
get to be money wise if ittakes them over? With you talk about
creativity, how creative are you goingto get to be money wise if it
takes some overspending on a free agentto go get him that you think can
get you over the hump, butyou know, deep down it may be
a little more than we're comfortable with. How much leeway are you going to

(02:41:31):
have? Well, that's all aboutbeing creative, you know. Sometimes you
have to get creative and figure out, hey, if I make this trade,
you know, I might be ableto move this money around, and
then I may be able to acquirethis guy. And so I just think
it's going to be an all outall out blitz on being creative, you
know, keeping Jim Crane in theloop, you know, and letting him

(02:41:54):
know, hey, well we cando this, so we can do that,
and and and try to, youknow, as an organization, try
to figure out together what's the bestmove going forward to get back to the
World Series one game away, afew wise decisions away. And I think
at the end of the day,you know, we're gonna be all right,

(02:42:15):
and we're gonna get as I said, we're gonna get some players back.
We're gonna get our pitching back likein July, so we're gonna even
have a stronger rotation. And soyou know, we're one good move or
two good moves away from really turningthe corner. That was Dana Brown answered
John's question about creativity on the moneysituation. And again we've heard it quite

(02:42:37):
a bit here in this city thatif if a situation presents itself, Dana
Brown or excuse me, Jim Cranewould spend the money. But yet we
have never seen him go over theluxury tach threshold. So I wonder again
the word creative. You're gonna haveto get creative with the financials, But

(02:42:58):
is there a creative way to goget a big name like that. I
just I wonder how they're going toapproach it. I think it's creativity is
it's kind of covers it all.I think the creativity is, can we
trade for somebody? What are wegoing to give up? Can we go
sign somebody and get creative and movethis here? Rob Peter to pay Paul.
If we're paying Paul and Paul's goingto help us win, I listen

(02:43:24):
creative and you can't. Obviously it'snot time to be able to talk about
free agents and who's available with himbecause he can't do that yet. Names
I'm talking about particular names, right. But for us, you're gonna have
to get really creative. If Otani'spart of that creativity, oh man,
you may not be that. Thatmay take five of the greatest artists of

(02:43:45):
all time to pull that one off. Or if it's not that creative,
and you're a team that says,let me tell you what, there's a
half a million, half a billiondollars creative enough for you. That's an
apple cart complete. I mean,I don't want to say disruption to the
team because I mean Otani walks intoyour clubhouse and the U instantly are like,

(02:44:05):
well we just got better. Butyou're also saying for a half a
billion dollars, will he be thedifference? Well on this roster. Come
on, man, if you addedhim and didn't have to, you're obviously
not going to trade somebody added himfor just the only thing you're giving up
is Well when I say the onlything is money and years, well,
you walk in that clubhouse, comeon, now, that's a side show.

(02:44:26):
I can handle it spring trading,right, I can handle that.
Kid can handle it too. That'sa side show every game, right,
and he can handle. But heis so poised and so confident, yet
so humble. But when you're talkingabout creativity, I'm just gonna go out
on a limb and say, Idon't think that. I don't think they're
going to be that creative meaning Otanicreative. No, that's a different creativity.

(02:44:48):
Brother. That's like reinventing the wheelright there. That's gonna be tough
to do. I mean that that'sgonna be tough to do for anybody.
Well, I think teams that it'sgot to be the Giants, the Dodgers,
Yankees, and Mets Yankees Mets,Dodgers, Giants, Padres, Angels,
keep him Texas Rangers because they've alreadyproven they'll spend to go win a

(02:45:11):
title. Yeah, and they didand it paid off. And now are
you saying others could maybe, butyou're not Baltimore. I mean, I
don't think they're jumping into it.I think he stays worries either one of
those three or four teams on theWest Coast, either the Angels, Dodgers,
Padres, or Giants. Oh Ileft out Boston. Boston's always a
player. And when it comes tothe money, and then outside of that,

(02:45:35):
you would think it's those teams inCalifornia. And then you'd think Texas
Rangers probably got to play if they'rewinning, to keep paying what they're already
paying, and then some what they'realready paying. Then do it to one
guy, and then you start tothink Yankees, Mets, Red Sox,
Phillies. Can't leave them out.Those are all teams that'll pay. And
if you feel like you're one playeraway and you're willing to let it rip,

(02:45:56):
have at it. Now? Wouldit be great to here? I
just don't know if if can theyafford it? Yeah? Do they want
to afford. It's another whole thing. It's a lot of money. It
sure is another thing that I foundinteresting. Bob Nightingale of USA Today Sports
he put up an article yesterday afternoonand he talked about the contracts of Jose
Altuve and Alex Bregman. Obviously bothof them are coming up. I think

(02:46:20):
I believe both of them are intheir last year of their contract. So
Altuve. In this article, BobNightingale said the Astros have intention to keep
Altuve as an Astro for the restof his career, but when it comes
to Alex Bregman, there's some skepticismon keeping him. Who said that,

(02:46:43):
Bob Nightingale skepticism on keeping bragmant,Yeah, after his contract is up.
Well, didn't we say when wetalked about you, you put a list
of guys. Somebody had asked usfor a list of guys where we put
them? And I did think Bregmanwas a stone cold lost Yeah, it
was fromber It was uh Al twoVa, Bregman and Kyle Tucker and we

(02:47:05):
all sim through in a Joe orkeaty. Yes, I I think the
possibility exists that Alex Bregman's not alifer here. I think that exists.
I think he's going to Boston.I think that's a possibility. That's where
he's going to end up. SoI mean the loves to have him here.
Oh yeah, no question. Butput it this way, they're all

(02:47:26):
not staying forever. No here,They're just not. That's through the reality
of sports. Unless I said allof them are staying here, I didn't
say all of them are leaving.Yeah, yeah, they're all not staying.
Al two Bays a lifer, correct, But this this unless it's forty
two he leaves and wants to playone more year because he wants twenty five
more hits. But and they didn'twant to hear. But he's not going
anywhere. I'm not. I don'tfor want put it this way. When

(02:47:50):
somebody says Sean is at Echeton Stone, that draw line in the sand.
Is Bregman here or not, I'lldraw it's not a stone, it's in
the sand, it's not Echeton stone. I think you're making that line in
the sand. Yeah, or youcan move the goalpost if necessary. Right,
I don't think it's a stone coldlock. I don't think it is
not because not because I don't wanthim here. I love it, but
I don't think it's a stone coldlock with the money he's gonna want.

(02:48:13):
You must take into account that ScottBoris is agent will squeeze every ounce of
the turn up possible. He justwill. And as much as I like
Alex Bregman, he's not a biggerpriority for this franchise than Kyle Tucker is.
In my mind, you would takeyou would try to if I said

(02:48:35):
you got one of the two?Who you? Who are you extending Tuck?
I only have one of the two. I'm taking the right shielder.
That's just me. Yeah, whatabout years wise, whatever it takes.
No, No, Kyle Tucker's notgetting ten years. I'm not getting I
just don't. I know you don'tdo ten years. Oh Tani's the outlier.
Yeah, I'm thinking like six years, six years at thirty three million

(02:48:56):
a year, thirty five million ayear somewhere in there. Yes, Kyle
Tucker all in, regardless of whathappened Posty, that's one Posty's let's slow
it down. He's a hell ofa player, and I guarantee you they
think the same thing. I wantAlex Bregman here too. I just you're
not. It's a go around theNFL, from the Seattle Seahawks to the
Rams, to the Patriots to theChief Chiefs. We've seen you can't.

(02:49:18):
You're not gonna keep them all.It's it's amazing they've kept this many guys.
And that's even losing Verlander getting himback, that's losing Springer, that's
losing Krea and losing Korea. Threeregular All Stars that are also three staple
franchise guys here during this World Seriesrun, who all have been replaced,

(02:49:39):
and they still won without him.They still won games without him. So,
like I said, people are replaceable, some are tougher to replace.
You get Verlander back, Whi's agood thing. I just I don't see
how eight years from now, bregseven years now, Bregman's going to be
your third baseman. Payne is goingto be your short stop. Al two
Ba is going to be your secondbaseman. Whoever's at first based das at

(02:50:00):
some point time is gonna rank andget to the point where he wants money
at some point in time. Andyou know, in the in the evolution
of his career, Kyle Tucker's outthere, he's gonna get his. Jordan
Alvarez got his, and by thattime he's gonna want more of his right
cheap. Then he got him onthat's exactly right, maybe the most unpaid,
underpaid superstar on the planet. Soit's just not gonna be feasible.

(02:50:22):
So then you got it, andthen you go to the pitching staff.
That's gonna change too at some pointin time. I hope that Bregman does
stay, but I do think there'sthe I didn't think. I do think
there's a very real possibility that Imean that he could be a guy that's
playing somewhere else. Yeah, Ican see that. I just I don't
think that the he uh, hestays here after his contract is up.
But we'll have to wait and see. Let's get back to these Texans so

(02:50:43):
I'll get some power rankings. Didthey crack the top ten in the NFL
Power rank He's got some fresh ones? Right hot off the Press's Gus in
next right here on Sports Talk sevento eighty, Sean Salisbury, Brian,
this is this Seawn Elsbury show Idid on Sports Talk seven ninety pea shut

(02:51:09):
paper boy crazy. You can't straightto it at a cousin manufact storage,
catch man, no security jeditor foundI don't raise my papy mom and talking
soon and howe on them catch himdown? Then you he sat damn he's
on the chain. He fooled me. He was keeping school on the chain.
That can see My man finally turnedto it, right you talking about
right a couple of segments left hereon the Shawn Salisbury Show on a Tuesday

(02:51:31):
morning. Right here on Sports Talkseven ninety, Joe Spot officially is the
new manager. Make sure what's that? No? No, go ahead?
No, no, that's that's yeah, that's me keep going. Spot officially
the new manager of the Houston Astros. Uh. We had Data Brown on
talking about Joe Spot about an hourago. If you missed it, it's
up on our blog at sports sevenninety dot com. Brought to be the
Bills money in the football You talkingabout making place. Yeah. A lot

(02:51:54):
of sports plays today, Yeah,every day, a lot of sports plays.
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna jagaround now the last twenty five minutes.
I mean Joelton, Joe's the newmanager of the Astros. That's not
his nickname, that's already been givenyou. But you already know how it
goes in the city with nicknames.So what's it gonna be Joe cool,
that's already Burrows, but yoh yeahthey'll they'll somehow Joe. Have you ever

(02:52:16):
noticed Joe Montana they called him JoeCool. Yeah, they called Joe Burrow
Joe Cool Joe. Nicknames for peoplenamed Joe, Okay, check it out,
Joe Mama, Joe Mama, JoeDirt, Joe Schmoe, Joelton Joe.
There you go, There you go, Joe Cool. Not seeing Joe

(02:52:39):
Joe Cool. Well, they're notthat cool. Then listen to these like
what is this mighty Mighty Joe Youngthat was a movie stud Muffin Shubster,
Captain hotty Pants. I was wrongwith these pieces. Some funny nicknames for
people named Joe Joey, Jojo jDog, Joe Cool, Big Joe,
Little Joe, Papa Joe, Sloppy, Joe, Average Jojoe the Great,

(02:53:01):
I think the big Jazz Joe He'sno Jeff, No, he's not jazz.
He's on here. How this isCheck this one out. When Joe
when the Astros lose two out ofthree to like Oakland or somebody next year,
and people are pissed off with thelineup. How many sleepy Joe references

(02:53:22):
are we going to get? Uh? That could be that that's be the
worst criticism you could ever have.Ye, there's no question being compared to
that guy, Yeah, being comparedto him. But Joe Spot would be
a better president a thousand percent,I mean not even close. Walking on
the job today, he's better.Correct, Oh, it's far better right,

(02:53:43):
walking on the job today. Healready knows more policy about the United
States than his cohort sitting next tohim, and Joe Spot actually knows where
he is. He's coherent. Yeah, you'd be fine. But anyways,
yeah, don't digress. Correct,and you don't want to go the one
name I don't want for Joe Spotit slap that one. Yeah, yeah,
no, leave that one out.Okay, what about honey Bun?

(02:54:03):
Not sure why this is on thatlist, but wait a minute, so
honey buns reserved for Joe It's whatBrian Sean can't have a honey man.
Funny nicknames for people named Joe andsnuggle Bunny. Honey Bun and Bunny are
on here. Ballers on here aswell as well. Joe Bunny, Joe
honey, Honey, Joe, Honey, Joe, Jo on the list,

(02:54:26):
Papa Joe, sloppy Joe. Yeahyou don't want that, so you said
Joe Mama was on there, LittleJoe, lil this is how about how
about uh coach a spot or skipas you like to say. I'm just
gonna call him Jolt and Joe,Yeah why not? I don't know.

(02:54:48):
There's not really a lot of goodnicknames for Joe, is it really for
the name Joe not? That's whythey keep coming up with Joe cool at
quarterback. It's just a fit.You're relaxed and poised and Joe. I
don't know. How about just Spothat's probably what they're gonna call him.
Yep, it's because it's actually Spoda. It's Espada but right, but his
real name is Hiosue Espadapa. He'sthe freaking Yeah. What if you're like

(02:55:18):
Chris Berman, who I love myboy? You know by guy. But
every time he says the Raiders,he can't say the Raiders. It's like,
yeah, like, well, ifyou're just talking he does, right,
I mean, if you're just talkingto him, hey, what do
you think about the races? Ilove thee he just can't do it.
Yeah, and I mean that affectionately. So what if every time we bring
up Joe Spotta, you just can'tdo it without giving this Spanish uh flare

(02:55:39):
to it right, it's like,oh, who are you talking about?
Oh? You mean Josse Like you'refrom my hometown, like'idido that's how How
would they say Esco? Yeah,that's an es Yeah, how would they
say it though? Joe Spa that'sJosepa Spada. Ye, it's like Lemonada.
Yeah, I gotta sit down andthe judge. Hey, watch these

(02:56:00):
astros twenty seven in a row manMan that's host theater for the All Time
Records. Yeah. Yeah, he'snot from mescal he's from Puerto Rico.
Yeah, but that's okay. Hebelongs to one of us. One thousands
people over there man O six RanchPark Parkway cruised, Yeah, listening astros

(02:56:22):
game olms. Yeah, we hadit on the iHeart radio app. I
don't know how it got out here, but we got it made. And
then Joe's spot is looking like,no, it's Joe's spot. Joe,
he seems like he seems like acool customer man. He does. He
got all the baseball stuff handled man, Yeah, I'm bought in. It's
Joe season. I'll be honest withyou. For Joe, it seems like

(02:56:43):
it's just a shift to where you'restand in the dugout because he's that he's
qualified, right, yeah and soand having that manager a great sense of
pride, a great sense of humbleand gracious, but also a great sense
of I got the tounch that Joe'sspot of feels like this is the it's
due time, right and he shouldand Dana Brown and Michigan goes. I
feel blessed that this dude wasn't hiredaway by somebody else and they got him.

(02:57:09):
It's a good thing. And itseems to me like him and Dana
Brown have a very very good relationship, which will make things a lot easier.
I feel, at least it feelson the feels on the at least
on this urgent part of it atthe top, that there's a different bond
then. I mean, once KGveteran that dead Dusty's been doing a while
and you came into the situation Dustywas here. Now you're the guy who

(02:57:30):
got the elevate, a guy who'swaited for his opportunity. So I would
imagine the gracious respect that Joe Spottahas for not only the ASTOST organization,
but for Dana trusting him, andthat's important. Trust is a big part
of this. Do you think doyou think there was a sense of I
wouldn't say arrogance from Dusty Baker?But do you think it was somewhat difficult
for Dana Brown to get not getalong, but like to coexist with uh,

(02:57:54):
Dusty Baker? Because Dusty Baker's beenin this for so long. I've
seen everything. You could say itit's not a negga stubborn, Yeah,
stubborn, there's the word. Seeand dost these while the coolest cat on
the planet. Yep. Everybody loveshim and he can get along with anybody,
and he's as smooth as it gets, and he knows baseball, and
he's had a hell of a runand he's gonna have. It's gonna look

(02:58:15):
great seeing him give a speech headedinto the Hall of Fame, can't wait
with the ring on his finger.But make no mistake about great. Does
it get to be great? Well, you tell me of all the great
players or managers or people you've metthat run something. I can tell you
one thing they all have. Theygot a lot of things in common,
but one in particular. They're allstubborn as hell. That they are convicted

(02:58:37):
on what they believe and they're stubborn. And Dusty, listen, you've been
doing something fifty to sixty years.Wouldn't you be stubborn, especially when we've
had success at every step? Yeah, player, of course. And you
look at what he went through asa player. Stubborn as hell. I
mean, yeah, And that's okay. And you know what Dana Brown didn't
get to hear without being stubborn alongthe way and having to listen. To

(02:59:00):
get to this point, you gotto tread through some stuff. You got
to be turned down, you've gotto be kicked in the teeth, and
then you're rewarded, and then whatyou do with it is on you and
how you build it. So stubbornand a bad thing. Yes, Dusty's
already set in his ways. Daneis coming in here while you're trying to
when I say, fit in withwhat they're doing culture wise, you're also

(02:59:22):
trying to build your own. It'swhy you got the damn job. They
trust you to do it. Soand now Joe, it's the oppostionit now
Joe is going to adjust and he'sbeen here, so you get the best
of both. You've promoted the guythat deserved an opportunity and you also were
part of a guy who who's wona world series, so you've seen both.
It's been pretty cool for Dana Brown. But I think that different probably

(02:59:43):
a little bit different relationship when youhire the guy. The relationships obviously different,
obviously different, and it will bewith Joe a spot. Not that
theirs was chaotic, dusting is alittle stubborn, a little set in your
ways. That's okay. I wouldimagine they'll be a deeper part of closer
communication with then ext group. Yeah, between those two. Yeah, just
because he hired him, probably missedmore cohesiveness, Yeah, I would think.

(03:00:05):
And anytime you're a first time guy, you're also leaning on other people
as well. When you've been arounddoing it forever, you feel like they
lean on you, Right, That'susually what happens. Let's get to the
final segment here on the Sean SalisburyShow. You'll never guess who could be
in the running to be the benchcoach for Joe Spot. We'll discuss the
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free iHeartRadio app. Trying to howWood cow Ma g Broke. Final segments

(03:02:07):
on a Tuesday right here on SportsTalk seven hinety. This is the Shawn
Salisbury Show. Sean, Brian andTripley Joe spot officially the new manager of
the Houston Astros. We had DanaBrown, the general manager, on with
us at eight thirty. If youmissed, it's up on our blog at
Sports seven ninety dot com. Alsomaybe radio. Maybe we might purpose that.
I like that repurpose. Yeah,wild on Wednesday, Western Wednesday.

(03:02:31):
You'd be wild. Everybody said you'dbe wild. I'm a big cliche day
guy, you know what I mean? Like today's Taco Tuesday, Sir,
me too, Brian, Yeah see, or like a theme today, you
know what I mean? Yeah?So you that's you guys are your big
theme guys. Yeah yeah, yeah, you're a big theme Yeah. You
know whatever, nice man, nicetheme day. I gotta have a theme

(03:02:54):
every day, right or like,you know what your themes just kick ass
every day, Just open up acan every day. Yeah, you that's
a daily payment like trap Tuesday.You feel me? No, I don't
know. We outside Yeah yeah,I feel that. That's what the kids
are saying. I know what thekids are saying. That's what That's what
the world. You know how RyanMoney at one point used to be our
residence street insider. You feel likeyou're I think we're passing the torch over

(03:03:18):
to Triple. I thought you weregoing to try to take credit to the
to the streets. I am,but that's that's not my role here.
Do you have your ear to thepayment? Indeed? Ie? Yeah,
I hear it all indeed indeed?Yeah yeah. And if not, then
I go to my right hand man. But if I wanted, like,
let's say, an independent electrical contractor, what we get? What? What?

(03:03:39):
What are they? You should probablygo to the I E. C.
But what is it? What isan independent electrical contractor? From what
I understand and what I've heard,it's an independent electrical contract It's a group
of them. This is what I'veheard. That's the word on the street.
Yeah, that's you got your ear? You really do you have your
ear to the pay pavement? Yeah, you really do, absolutely like it.

(03:04:00):
Yeah. Why is it your eargoes to the pavement, but your
nose goes to the grindstone. Huh, put your nose to the grindstone.
Yeah, bow your neck and putyou put your ear pavement. I got
it, I got it. Lookat you're already. That's what you bugged
you. You got to get tothe Google machine. Nose to the notice
of the grindstone. Let's see whereit derives from. Uh. The idiom

(03:04:26):
of keep one's nose to the grindstoneis to do hard, continuous work.
You'll do well at school if youjust keep your nose to the grindstone.
Let's go to the cambridge. ButI want to know where it. I
want to know where it originated.Who came up with nose? Why can't
your ear be to the grindstone?Good point, because if your nose is
to the grind if your nose isto the pavement, you might cut it
up. And won't you cut yourear up to? I mean because you

(03:04:50):
can hear like the diesel, youknow, the wheels on the pavement from
a couple miles away. When yourears to the pavement. I guess where
did yeah, there we go.Where did those the grindstone come from?
The phrase knows to the grindstone meansto work hard all the time. It
comes from the image of a toolthat must be sharpened by being held to
a grindstone. The first citation ofthe phrase is from John Friths A Mirror

(03:05:13):
of Glass, Yes to know thyselfin fifteen thirty two. Yes, studied
him back then. A lot ofgood tape on him. Yeah, a
lot of good tape. Yeah.All right, so we know it knows
that the grind cent and ear tothe pavement is. Let me ask you
this. Can I get an issuea homework assignment to our fans listeners?
Uh? Huh, you got yougive me one reason tomorrow other than if
the if they don't make forget it. Because the playoff center nine games in

(03:05:37):
white. C J. Stroud isnot the most valuable player in the league.
I need somebody to tell me.I need somebody out there to come
up tomorrow and remember this conversation thatI'm asking you. At some point during
the show, you tell me whyc J. Stroud. I don't care
if you're in town, out oftown. Listen on the iHeartRadio. Tell
me why c J. Stroud isnot the MVP nine games end of this

(03:05:58):
season. And then also homework assignment. It's time for triple e's of the
week. Ah, what's up,Emmanuel? I want five facts about c
J. Stroud. So that'll beeasy. There their same age. That's
an easy one. Yeah, that'san easy one. Sometimes sometimes sometimes you

(03:06:20):
gotta get the homework assignment the substituteteacher gives you. Right, that's right,
that's what I am. Substitute teacherright now. You don't know what
you don't subject, but you knowwhat a subject because I'm in the master's
program. You are, That's right, you are because you've already you've already
taken care of your your your degree. Now you're in the master program.
But is that true when you goin with Hey, there's a there's a

(03:06:41):
somebody else like the grad assistant andor the we got a sub today,
so I class doesn't even exist.Anybody want donuts? That was high school?
Yeah? Got them? Oh man, as soon as you hear that
cart rolling in with a TV.When you got that, I mean,
I mean you in the house,corn Hub, I mean I mean what

(03:07:03):
Hub Hub What are you doing?Man? What did I do? What
do you call it? The Hub? You caught the Hub? I?
No, I don't know. Maybewhat is it? What? What is
it? The Hub? And therea hub city? No, I'm just
kidding, dude. Are you reallygoing a Google hub city? Yeah?
Hub city? Where is hub City? Somewhere? It's in Uh, I
don't know. It's probably got acap on it. See what I did

(03:07:24):
there, hub City? They're ahub city? Thank you. I just
slid it in. You know whatI'm saying, man? You did what
when you said hub? I said, well you know that you say it's
probably got a cap on it fromhub cap right? But then I heard
slide in and I thought you weretalking about hub to the DM. Well
yeah, but what do you knowabout it? Okay, about the hub?

(03:07:46):
Yeah? About the p hub youdon't know. I could. I
don't know. I don't either.Somebody will fill me in though, yeah,
could, I don't know. No, there's no Hub city. What
I don't know what I'm thinking of? Then? So actually know what to
two assignments? Two assignments you takeone day because substitute teachers don't do that.

(03:08:07):
Neither do graduate assistance or teacher's assistant. I had to watch two movies
on one day. That was becauseyou missed the week before he did alleged,
No, it would be a missedHow about to save that one for
tomorrow. Okay, two assignments inone week. Tough sledges stuff. Man,
Well that's the guy that sad assistantsroll. You got to teach a
young kid, you know, theins and out. I feel you,

(03:08:28):
dog, Look, I know Iknow Tripley's got his degree. Prayerview.
Shout out prayer View. Ain't myep, shout out my lobos. Man
got their ass kicked? Ye,last Battle of I twenty and it just
did. It didn't work out.Trojans got their ass kick last week.
But it's been a hell of arun, sugar, good thing. We
got c J. Stroud and thenthe Texans. We're good to go.
Yeah. I was gonna say thankyou to Dana Brown for a great interview
today. Yeah, appreciate him makingsome time. Yep. What was his

(03:08:52):
final score? Man? Does anybodyreally care about the Battle of I twenty?
Yeah, a lot of Lobos thatlisten to us. Yep. Actually,
you know it was a little morerespectable thirty seven to twenty three.
Only two touchdowns. Last battle ofI twenty because Soul Raw State's going D
two. Baby, don't look nowas you're moving on on Star Conference.
Here we come next thing. Youknow, they'll be in the Big twelve

(03:09:15):
slower role. Could be pleas conferencere alignments, Yep, could be great
stuff today. Appreciate you guys.Absolutely, that's gonna do it. He
is Sean Salisbury, our producer TripleEmmanuel Lmore. I'm Brian Willima. Thank
you for listening again if you missedit, Dana Brown interview is going to
be up on our blog at sportsseven ninety dot com. You'll enjoy it.
He talks about hiring Joe a Spotand what the needs are for this
offseason for the Houston Astros. You'relistening to Sports Talk seven hinety, the

(03:09:41):
home of the Houston rocketsand the HoustonAstros. Don't go anywhere. Next up
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