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September 11, 2024 • 14 mins
Still leading the division just about five games ahead of the Mariners, who are still chasing back in the ranks the Astros have continued to show a strong stand on their aim to the postseason. Dana Brown joins and shares his confidence in Verlander's timeline and turning the tide going forward.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's that time of the week.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Let's welcome in Astro's general manager Dana Brown of the show. Yes,
we do every Wednesday at nine thirty we get a
chance to talk to the first place, Astro's general manager,
Dana Brown. Good to have you in, Dana. We'll get
to you yesterday's game in a second. Let let's start
with Verlander. What are you seeing and kind of your
overall thought process. He's JV and he's got a great history,

(00:29):
but still trying to find his way here. But the
velocity was up, so give us your overall thought on
Justin Verlander moving forward.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
And now, yes, velocity was up to ninety seven. Breaking
ball looked pretty good. JV's concern right now, it's just
this command. It's a little off and so you know,
he's missing some of his spots. So he got hit
a few times. But ultimately I've always told you know,
you guys and the listeners look, pay attention to the

(00:58):
back of the baseball card. These guys will they will
show up. They will get it done. I mean, you know,
for him to be throwing ninety seven and throwing that
breaking ball aways, throwing it I think he's going to
be fine. It's just a matter of location. And you
know what I mean by that, It's just you got
to make a quality pitch, you know at times, hey,
and you know you.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Mentioned the back of the baseball card and in his history,
which has been first ballot Hall of Fame. But when
it comes to production and he's got three or four
more starts probab guest Dana probably before the postseason, so
to get it right and get the command down. But
it'd be more I think concerning if he was thrown
at ninety two. But that being said, how much will
the back of the baseball card decide whether he's in

(01:37):
the rotation or not if this is what we see
kind of up and down the next three or four starts.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, I mean we're going to let him go through
his spring training come back, right That's what he's probably
going through right now, and so you know we have time,
you know with JV. So you know, ultimately, as you mentioned,
he listened, this guy is up tonight. If a guy
was ninety two, I would be really concerned and then
we'll be a different discussion. But when the stuff looks

(02:07):
good and it's a matter of location, it usually means
you're a little bit rusty. And ultimately, I mean if
you could imagine, you know, uh, the way Brown is
throwing it, the way Javiers, I mean, Valdez is throwing it,
the way Kakuchi is throwing it. You had Verlander in
that mix, and opposedly, I mean that is really pretty special.

(02:27):
So uh, JV's gonna be all right. You know, this
guy is a competitor, you know, and and so I
think he's gonna turn the corner. I'm I'm not worried
in the least, and you guys know, I'll let you
know if I'm worried, right, I think we're gonna be
all right. I'll have the heartbeat and the stomach for this,
so we're gonna be fine.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Let me get to something that we know people just
we just don't talk about it much anymore. We don't
see it much. Bunting. Now, we saw Oakland in the
game last night, and not only bunting but defending bunch.
But I want to get to bunting in itself. Danny,
you mentioned small balls important and we've talked about that
on here. You know you want slug, but you mentioned
it's it's tough on pictures when you can play small
ball and beat teams that way. So when did I

(03:05):
mean you you've got some old school and you were
some new school philosophy. So when did we decide did
moving runners over with the bunt? When did it we
kind of just push it aside in why not? Just
here I'm talking about baseball overall. Just you're insight because
you were there through this when people used to bun
all the time. Why don't we do it anymore? Is
it just a metric a feel thing? Why why aren't

(03:27):
doing it anymore?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I think at the new school. I think it's the
new school, uh point of of you need slug. So
I think people are looking at the slug presenters, you know,
they're trying to put teams away early instead of button
a run here and a run there, and I think
it's more like, look, let's go for the kill and uh,
you know, let's get four or five runs and put

(03:47):
these guys out of out of the way. And so
you know, when you see a team that bunts, it's
kind of like, oh, we better, we better get back
to our spring training mode of you know, picture fielding
p this the PFPS that we do, you know, to
you know, to get it right. And so sometimes it's
a simple as fielding the ball, not trying to do

(04:08):
too much, throw at the first base, getting out, you know,
to defuse the rally. And and so I think the bunning,
you know, it's going to be a big part of
things in the postseason. You know, you got to play
a little bit of small ball at times, you know,
especially when you've got a pitchers do going and there's
not many runs being scored. But you know that's that's

(04:31):
the case of last night. You know, uh, a few bunchs,
you know, a few misplays, you lose track of the
pitchers fielding practice, the pfps that you do you know,
all year throughout the year, and uh, you know we
we pretty much got blindsided by it last night.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, Dan, let me ask you, let's go back to
spring training and let's look at the offensive side of it.
We mentioned small ball because you're gonna face everybody's best
in the postseason, so you got to manufacture some runs sometimes.
So how much do teams off refer to the astros
you're there? In truth? How much do guys really work
on bunting during spring training?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Now?

Speaker 1 (05:06):
In truth, yeah, I think they.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know, all the hitters when they get into cage,
they all lay down a few bunths.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
A few right, but dedicated to it.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Right. It's not like it used to be where you know,
you spend a ton of time bunning, you know, because
ultimately you're trying to put teams away today because you've
got to have slug in order to win. I mean,
if you don't have slug, you can't you can't get
to the postseason by bunning. Let me just make that
very quick fact. You're gonna have to slug. So bunning

(05:38):
is a part of this game. It's a small part,
but you're gonna have to slug. And so I think
guys work on bunning daily, when they daily, when they
get into the batter's box, you know. But ultimately it's
not as big as it used to be in our sport,
but it's still a part of it and you're still
gonna have to do it at times, you know. So

(05:59):
it's it's gonna be important at times.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Astros GM Dana Brown for his weekly Wednesday visit. We
always look forward to it. Here on Sports Talk seven
ninety to Kyle Tucker, is it simply just timing for
him this time, to get himself right now, to get
his bat back going. I think he was zero for
six last night. But is it I mean, nothing tender,
nothing with an injury. Is it simply just seeing pitches
and reps.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, I think it's timing, you know, because if you
watch his at bats, he's having long at bats, He's
seeing a lot of pitches. That's usually a good sign,
but it's a matter of him squaring it up. He's
square it up to one to left field that he
hit it towards the wall. But it's a matter of
just squaring it up and getting your timing right. And
so I think he's gonna have to go through this period.

(06:45):
Remember he didn't get a you know, a rehab assignment.
You know, we need him in our lineup right now,
and we want him to get you know, those big
league at bats before the postseason because we've got to
get him ready, and so you know, we're kind of
of you know, putting them in the fire a little bit.
But ultimately, if your watches at bats, he's having long

(07:05):
at bats. You know, when when guys start getting out
in three pitches, you know, if you get yourself out
in two pitches. Those those things are a little bit concerning.
But watches at bats, he's running some deep counts, he's
seeing the ball, he's seeing a lot of pitches, and
it's just a matter of time, you know how it is.
Oh yeah, you get that breakout hitting, hits coming bunches,

(07:27):
and you get that breakout hit, and before you know it,
you're three for four and you're riding that wave to
the next day. And so it's a matter of timing.
But he's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Fine, and the timing, hopefully will be perfect as we
pushed towards these you know, these last games and then
getting into the postseason. All right, let me switch to
Jeremy Pania. Maybe we were so spoiled by his glove
and arm and the way he's performed, but an alarming
rate of airs this year, Dana, what are you seeing
different than maybe we are? Why?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, it's the same thing, like like hitting, His timing
fielding is timing. You know, you remember the one area
he made you know, uh, when Salvi perezit ball to him,
he had a lot of time, he rushed it. It's
all timing, right, and so sometimes you got to remember
who's running and and and you have to you know,
you have to get your steps right. And I think

(08:15):
he's been a little out of sync. But you know,
we all know Jeremy Pinya is a pretty special shortstop.
You know, we can't lose track of all of those
great plays that he makes. And you know he's taking
us off the hook a ton and so you know,
let's not forget Jeremy pinion is one of those special shortstops.

(08:36):
And you know, I say, during the course of the season,
all of your players are going to go through somewhat
of a funk. The key to winning is you've got
to get it all together, you know, put it all
together at the same time. And I think once we
get in that mode, which I think I feel it's
coming soon, I think we're gonna run off some wins.

(08:57):
I think we're gonna roll into the postseason and we'll
get deep, you know, into the postseason. But you know,
our guys, make no mistake. You know, Jeremy Piney has
a really good shortstop. Let's not lose sight you know
of that.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Oh he's phenomenal. And I think this and we know
what he's got those postseason chops when he was the
MVP Special. And one last thing, do you think there's
any when when you're going through those tough times, Dana.
We've talked about mental toughness, in which I believe he
has and I know you do too, But is there
any part of the mental yips right now going through
him or is it simply just timing or do you
think that man he's pressing, gripping the ball a little

(09:33):
harder and not doing the things he'd normally do because
of the young characteristic airs that he's had.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
No, I think it's all timing. You know, It's like
and we all know this, it's all it's like dancing.
You know, you have to be able to dance to
play shortstop. This guy can dance. And we know he's
really good with his with his timing. He's just he's
just a little off with some of his steps. Sometimes
it's you know, you know, he forgets who's running and

(10:00):
so you know, you get into a funk in this
game and one hundred and sixty two. But I want
to remind people that this guy is pretty special. Let's
not get down on Jeremy Pine because this guy is
pretty special, and you know, we know that he can
play some defense and he can carry you with the
back at times.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Absolutely. Dana Brown for a couple more minutes here on
Sports Talk seven ninety Weekly Visit Danny. You remember that
show I Dream a Jeanie. You know the show I'm
talking about, right, it was in our time, right? Oh yeah,
all right, So Barbarie and I Dream a Janie. She's
given you one wish that's something maybe not fixed or adjusted.
She's given you one for the stretch run in the

(10:37):
postseason that needs adjusted. What is it?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah? I think the big thing with us is just
the timely hits. Think about it. We've been pitching very well,
and so we just you know, like last night, you know,
we only get a couple of runs. You know, we
lose that game that we had a couple more timely hits,
you know, it's a different story. And so I think

(11:02):
it's all about the timely hitting, particularly because of the
way we're pitching right now. If we could get those
timely hits, you know, I think it makes the world
the difference. And you'll you'll see us get get rolling
three runs and and and uh, you know the game
last night, that's not us, you know, Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
And a lot of people left in scoring position last night, right, Dana.
I think that was probably maddening for you last night
because they left a lot of people in scoring position
and on base that they that you've seen in the
past them drive those in. That's probably part of what
you're talking about about the timely hitting.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I imagine, yes, because want to do too much. You know.
We are guys, you know, and and we started getting
out early in the count, right, and so it's like
you get away from your game. Look, let's see some pitches.
Let's make sure he throws the ball in our zone.
And then you're trying to do too much. These guys
all know, you know, the fans are going crazy, they're cheering,
and and these guys are trying to get it done.

(11:59):
And so sometimes you come out of yourself and you
swing at that ball just off the plate because you
think it looks good. And that's what the guy was
doing last night. The guy, if you watch the pitcher
he series, he was nibbling around the edges, trying to
entice us to come out of our our zone, and
our guys started to chase a little bit off the plate.
We have to really hone in and and and get

(12:22):
those timely hits. But we're gonna have to make the
pitcher come into our zone and not chase his pitch.
But yeah, that's what I would say. If we can
get those timely hits, this team is gonna roll because
we're pinching right now, and I think we're gonna pitch
all the way through the postseason. You know, a few
timely hits, the score sis to seven runs and the
game is.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Over in the last thirty second pitch. So well, yeah,
in the last thirty seconds. I have you Chas McCormick,
the bregman's playing, but just kind of the overall injuries
and how you feel about the healthier team right now.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, I mean, we got these micks right now. You know,
Chads McCormick, if you know, watching the game, they saw
him running to the wall. Got a little bit of
us this comfort right now. Hopefully he'll be fine today.
We'll see what it feels like. It's all about now
the soreness. Is it going to be too sore? And
you know, we'll know a little bit more today, get
some imaging and find out what's going on in there.

(13:15):
But you know, ultimately I think it's I just think
it's a little discomfort you've got smashed up against the
wall there, and you know we've got the bregman, you know,
with the comfort in the elbow these day to day,
so we have a little you know, a few knicks,
you know, we have Tucker's timings all but off. I
think we're just gonna iron this thing out right here

(13:35):
at the end of the season. Eighteen games left, let's
get on all cylinders and let's take it to another level.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Four and a half game lead, eighteen to go, and
you sound like you're in good spirits and that means
a win today, So we look forward to it. We
always look forward to our Wednesday visit, my man, and
we'll look forward to doing it next week and hopefully
be on a good winning streak at then and everybody
will be right. So we look forward to always our
visit with you, and thank you, sir for your time.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Can't wait to meet next week. Hopefully we got some
real good news. Let's try to put this thing away.
Let's go astro thing.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
There you go, that's Dana Brown, great stuff. We'll come
back and discuss as we wind up a Wednesday edition.
To Shawn salesbshow Western Wednesday. That's Dana Brown. You can
catch that at sports sven ninety dot com. Come right back,
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