Texans Without Tytus Howard, Lance McCullers Jr Potential Return 2024?, College Transfer Portal/NIL

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Elmore here with you on a rainyThursday morning. The Rockets lose to the
Nuggets, Duke upset by Arkansas andthe a C C S e C Challenge,

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Transfer Portal and College Football heating up. Texan's gonna be without Titus Howard.
That's what we're we will start SeanTriple League. Good morning. Another
struggle on the offensive line for theTexans as they get ready to take on
a red hot Broncos team and they'regoing to be without one of their staples
of the offensive line. Sean.Well, listen, they've been having to

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adjust with this for a while.You know, think that this is going
to be like their ninth offensive linecombo this season. As you know what
I said at the beginning of afootball season that for this team, continuity
up front was going to be massive, huge for them upfront, And to

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me, that's been when they weregoing good and C. J. Stroud
was not getting hit. That wasone of the staples of their team.
I'm talking about even when you hada four string center in it was still
one of the staples of your teambecause of the way that you know,
you kept your quarterback upright. Itdidn't matter they were mixing and matching and
get it done. The continuity thatpision. Take a look at your best
in Philadelphia Detroit teams who continue eventhough you may not the names have changed.

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You can't city, but when youcan get health up front and those
guys working together, it's just anadvantage, especially if they're good players and
they got continuity. And it's atribute to the Texans to be able to
say that they've done one hell ofa job protecting the quarterback and the three
of the last four games of actuallymoving things at the line of scrimmage to
give you an opportunity to run thefootball as well. So but make no

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mistake when people say, well,it's Okay, we lost started, but
we're going to be just as good. No, you're not. Now the
other guy may step his game up, but sustain. There's a reason why
certain guys play starting, certain guysare backups least going in because the perception
is one can sustain success longer.And you know I heard this. I
was thinking about this at the quarterbackposition with Josh Dopps when he came in

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their first two games. Oh mygosh, is he better than Kirk Cousins?
Slow down, seeing the movie before, get going, and then all
of a sudden you come back downto reality. There's a reason why he's
been on five teams in like twoyears in two different ways. A reason
is that he's on a team becausehe's reliable and you can count on him
to be prepared as a backup.But the reason he's a backup is because
he's like your fifth starter in baseball. It's kind of a bullpen guy,

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kind of a backup can give youhell, may end up giving you fourteen
wins during the year as a baseballguy, or two or three wins as
a quarterback. But the reason he'snot a number one guy and he moves
on in place for ten different teamsin his career because he's just not that
guy. He's a guy, buta guy you need to Josh Dobbs.
It's a backup line, that's right. Yeah, But serviceable is a difference
in who of us hasn't been calledthat in our careers at once? And

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then that's serviceable where they need twowins in a row and I've been in
the situation they're counting I need tobe to be that guy, And when
you go get two wins in arow, it's like, okay, now
that the visual changed on it,It's the same here, whether it's offensive
line continuity, a guy like JoshObbs somebody else, you opportunity to prove
it. But you know your role. So when you come in here,
the role is to keep your quarterbackup right and make sure that you're not

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the reason in a negative way,be the reason in the right way.
So yeah, when you lose aguy like that, it diminishes the depth
of your offensive line too. Andnow you're gonna have to have some versatility,
guys who can swing and play differentpositions and both sides of the both
sides of the line mean of thecenter. So yeah, It's a difficult
task, man, but it's onethat at this stage of the season,
they're not the only one's facing it, right. And I know that this

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is this isn't anything new unfortunately tothe Texans this season. But what does
that do to a quarterback's mindset anything? You know? And I guess the
reason I say that is you're withoutTidus towered for what the first four weeks
I believe because he was on IRAnd then he comes back. You start
to get the run game a littlebit better. You start things start to
you know, to get into moreof a rhythm offensively for CJ. Stroud,

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Bobby Slok and then here it isagain. And as a quarterback,
you gotta be like again, yeah, damn it again. But here's here's
the difference. And I think Stroudmay fall into this category at least judging
from what I watch, is ifyou let it, yeah, it's a
probably it's an issue. But theaverage player lets it bother them to where

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their performance on Sundays isn't the samebecause they're busy heads all over the place
instead of being instilled and doing thethings they do and just trusting the guy.
Even though it's not your starter,he's on payroll. Instead of trusting
him, your your your head's goingdifferent places, and you're become a little
skittish. That's the normal guy.The different guy who says it's okay,

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I've seen this movie before. Whatever, the next guy. I hate the
saying that phrase, the next manup. But we do have that all
the time. Next man up,next man up. We hear it.
I guess it's the right one,but sometimes wish there was a different way
to use it. The next dude, ready to play? Get ready to
play? Simply to me, asyou're on salary, you're getting paid,
you're on scholarship, so go getit done. And so I think Stroud's

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different. The great ones elevate thatguy and make him believe. Liked making
that guy believe that replaces tightus hour. You dude, we're going to hit
this ground running. You're going togo play the train like a backup and
perform like a starter. And nowhis opportunity presents itself. So Stroud can't
let that bother you. But yes, of course, it's got to be
in the back of your mind.And I've seen that movie too. You

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don't have a running back you're startingwide receivers hurt, you're on your third
or fourth running back, and twoof your offensive line starters are hurt.
What do you do well, Idon't know. The game still starts at
noon. The game's still playing atnoon, So you got two chols.
You could show up and pout andwhine and bitch and make excuses, and
you do that, or you cansay, listen, dude, he's dressing
four lockers away from me, maynot be getting paid, so I expect

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him. See my expectations aren't thebest teams in this league. The gap
between the starter and the backup isnot astronomical. The gap between the start
and the backup's pretty and close.And that's due to your scouting department and
your front office and coach going andgetting players and evaluating properly. When there's
a major drop between your left guardand the backup left guard, it tells

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me that you're not doing your duediligence and that person hasn't got the work,
poor hasn't been taught well, Somaybe we change our teaching. So
yeah, I And then obviously,if you have the best players, you
get the best chance to win witheverything, So it is, But I
think Stroud the good ones just sayhow do I elevate the team with that
guy out? Not what in theworld are we going to do with that
guy out? Yeah? It probablyalso helps that he gets to the football

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out pretty damn quick, no doubtabout it. And then if he needs
to use his legs to extend thepocket or get I'm sorry, get out
of the escape the pocket and extendplays, he does that. But for
the most part he's a pocket passerthat let's say rip. Yeah, is
tunsl supposed to at left tackle ifthe third string quarterbacks plan is he supposed
to say, we don't have astarter now, so I really don't have

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to do what I got to do? Or is he is his ass saying
I don't have ce J Strouder,I don't have you know, a starter.
I'm on my third guy, Likein Minnesota with Josh Stabbs when he
came in, I had to bringhim in it because of an injury.
How in the world am I goingto make sure that that dude has every
opportunity to be great? That's theattitude you have take on every position.

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How am I going to make thequarterback position better? At left guard now.
So it's a tough task. Itsounds like, you know, cheesy
motivational speech. It's not even aspeech. It's just understood, right.
And if you have I have tobaby you and bring you along as the
backup guard and move a tackle there, you know, move his pieces around.
I got to baby you and forceand end and soft sell you and

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give you a soft landing spot.I got news for you. Are ain't
many soft landing spots in the NFL. There ain't many of them because if
you're replacing a great player, that'shard. Those are hard shoes to fill.
If you're not replacing a great player'sno soft landing because guess what,
we expect you to play better thanhim. If I mean there is no
soft landing in the league. Thesoft landing is in the off season after
you want championship and they need togo on a banquet circuit. So the

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soft landing is I got to bebetter, and how am I going to
make those cats around me better?So I don't let this offensive line and
team down. Well, the onethat's going to have to step up their
second round pick from this past draft, Jew Scruggs out of Penn State,
he's coming back from ir and he'llbe activated and he will play on Sunday.
So now it's your time to shinejuicy. Yeah, he will played
on a good college team, knowswhat full stadiums are like, and has

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watched this team operate and knows he'sgot a guy. That's a guy who
likes to deliver the football from thatinterior of the pocket. When necessary,
he gets out, but he's throwingit from there. As you mentioned,
keep people off his legs and don'tdon't you know these another A clean game
to me is too where you're notjumping off sides, you're not holding people,
you're not doing something stupid personal foul. Keep a clean game, keep

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the pocket clean, and also keepthe dog on yellow flags in the in
the in the pocket of the referee. That's what you need to do.
So expectations for me is I don'teven want to come out of this game
saying dog on a left guard positionone very good right that right tackle or
the center position. I like tocome out of it knowing that if we
don't talk about you during the game, you're you're pretty good. You did

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your job, that's right. Yeah, Frederick Henry juice, scrugs. Just
come, Hank, Hank Scruggs.What a good name. That is a
good word, he scruggs. Toughdoes sounds like? I mean real,
it sounds tough. You know whatit sounds like outside of a bull rider's
name. It sounds like a badasscloser in Major League baseball. Yeah,
there's no doubt. Hey, giveme Scrugsy, give me the lefty,

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give me the I want the righty, Scrugsy, give me Scruggsy, Hank.
What's his first name? Frederick HenryJuice scrugg Freddie, Hank scruggs.
Yeah, pretty good, ring,I just Hank scrugs. Let's go simply
in around these parts of the knownas juice juicy. Yeah, let's go.
No, not juicy, why not? No, we're not the y
to it. No, not juicyfruit, not not not oj You know,

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when I think juicy, I'm notthinking scrugs. Okay, what are
you thinking? A different ass?It may be a bit fatter, No
kidding, No, I'm not thinkingjuicy. Okay, there's that juicy juicy.
You know what you say to Scruggs, scrugs, You go scruggsy,
or you go juicy Scruggsy. ScruggsyJuicy is too cheesy with a y.

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But Scruggs. Look at me inthe face and tell me what you think.
The Fellas called Jay Scruggs. Ijust guarantee that rug I was gonna
say Jay scrugg There's no doubt.But sometimes that gets long, so you
say, when he comes running out, he's crazy. Oh you're going to
add the y to it, butnot juicy. Did you guys call each
other nicknames in the locker room,because for the most part, well,

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obviously I didn't play professionally, butin college, I'm just trying to think
about, like, everybody called meLima, but there was no you know,
lemy like lima or whatever, likelouser snake for me, yeah,
white bread, white bread. Thatwas in Minnesota. Sc sALS, sneak,
yeah sALS for men. Percent ofthe time, it didn't. I
don't even remember getting called by myfirst name very often. I coach was
pissed. Yeah, exactly right.No one called me Brian. If you

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did, I'm like, what mysister calls me, Brian, Don't don't
do that. It's weird. Itwas, so maybe it was a little
more rampant than I remember. Ioh, among the players in the locker
room, yeah, I'm not sure. Many guys don't have a nickname true.
I mean, even guy like Chris, who was one of our offensive
line Minnesota and played at SC beforeI did Tough, you know, center
guard guy. And in Minnesota hisname his name is Chris foot Instead of

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calling him Chris, everybody calls himFooty, Footy, that's what he's always
been known as. I mean,I don't ever, I don't think I
called him Chris a day in myfrigging life, because if you called him
Chris, it's weird. Steve JordanBrown graduate, so we call his name.
There's not a soul I know that'dgo up to him and say Steve
that we played. Hey Steve,it's Ivy because you went to an Ivan
school. We call him Ivy alwayshave. He's always been. I just

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obviously inducted. He was a Ringof honor now Minnesota in the last I
think within the last handful of monthsor a couple of months or month.
And you know, his son's cam. I knew when his son was yeah,
you know a child. Yeah,he's pretty good player, right,
but uh it, yeah, Ican't. I'm thinking of c Lee.
Was Carl Lee? Yeah, becausereally, the only time anybody ever called

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you, like by your first nameor even like just your straight last name,
that's usually when your head coach ispissed off at you. Right,
I can I can remember. Goddang it. Lo Lima Yeah, all
right, well what I do now? Called our guy Wade Whiskey, Yeah,
whiskey. Yeah. It was justlike, yeah, Rich Gannon was
that was one we called rich reallyyeah, all the time. It just

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fit. I don't know, butyou know, like Gary Zimmerman was Zim.
Randall McDaniel was whatever you wanted,whatever he wanted to be called.
Okay, John Randall was again wownut job in an affection way because you
couldn't block his ass. One ofmy favorite people in the world. He
let you know he's gonna win,and and he'd win. What do you
think they called Antwine Randall l twanYeah, that's my I don't know why

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that name just came out, butit just it's three names. Randall l
Yeah, I would say twe probablyjust like you're gonna call an Kwan Bulden.
You probably call him Kwan yeah,I think that's what you hear people
call him right, kind of shortedthat way. So, uh, I
don't know many of our peeps thatweren't called a nickname in Loca. Well,

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the Rockets last lost last night,but Alpi h yeah, a pretty
good game went in doubt. Turnit over to Alpie. Give let alpee
cook man, let out let acook. You can just forget about it,
right, yeah, forget about it. Dimiico Ryans. If you remember
he was up for the Denver Broncosjob. He spoke to the media yesterday
and talked about the Texans job comparedto the Broncos job. What do you

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ys eternal judge who sits on highHe has the final say on all disputes.
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show onSports Talk seven ninety. Throwback Thursday.

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Here on the Seawn Salisbury Show,Sean Bryan at Tripoli, Rockets hoos
to the Nuggets, Titus hourd outfor the season for the Texans, Juice
Scrugs to make his NFL debut onthe offensive line, Aaron Rodgers returning to
practice for the Jets. I knowShawn's throat about that. One of the
favorite players of all time. Ilove I don't see you don't think I

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like I love Aaron? No,no, no, no, no,
no, I know. I thinkmy thing is returned to practice to give
you guys all this fodder that makesit seem like he's coming to play this
year. Fodder. Good word.Ooh, man, did you see Aaron
Rodgers? I mean enough, butdid you though? Yeah? I saw
him, all right, I sawhim in slow motion? Uh huh,

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move two steps too? Is right? Left end? Throw a football with
a Honestly, what you've said itthe last couple of weeks when I've brought
it up. If this man reallyrupts his achilles like he says he did,
him coming back, whether it's toplay or not, it's still pretty
crazy. I just don't think thatit was a full rupture. If he's

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actually this back this fast, well, I've never seventy nine days after come
on, man, it'd be thefirst time in history, I come on,
in sports that I've ever seen camAkers came back after like six months
and he plays running back, correctquarterback. I just to put your foot
in the ground and do all thethings you want to do. Listen,
I applaud him for saying that.I just I think that it makes it.

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It keeps things in the news andthe rest of it. But come
on, man, you think RobertSalace counting on him? His target date
is December twenty fourth. Yeah,why would you play him? Yeah?
Last two weeks? Why would youplay? Whatever it is, why would
you play him? You wouldn't.But he's gonna if Aaron Rodgers wants to
play, he's going to have tosay. Now you know, Robert sala
I mean, Robert Sawace still won'tbe fired up. You know, they

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still got to decide. They're puttinghimon the disabled list. But or the
I L. I guess we callit, well, it's the d L.
Yeah, so injured list. How'sthat? Whatever you want to call
it? I R. I don'tone day he injured reserve, yeah,
fifteen years ago. But somehow we'rewe're I don't know, we're not allowed
to say that anymore. Or disabled? Yeah, yeah, I mean,

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what happens when you got a cableand you unhooked the cable and get rid
of it. What have you doneto it? You've just disabled it?
Correct. Yeah, okay, butdude, don't fit out. Yeah exactly.
I'm sorry. Look, you knowwhat if I offend you with that,
guess what, it's a U problem. That's definitely a me problem.
But I don't think twice about it. So Aaron Rodgers comes off the disabled

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list or goes on it, Uh, he'll get into the offseason and have
himself prepared. Yeah, to playin twenty twenty four. I don't see
the purpose it serves. You're notgoing to the playoffs and by the time
he even feels in rhythm, theseason will be over. Correct. Is
it just to prove to us youcan come back from an achilles in four
months? Yes? Well. Ithink it's also some some ego with him

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when it comes to because you know, he's been very outspoken about the COVID
vaccine and everything else that he standsfor politics, which is completely fine.
It's his opinion on everything. Ithink with him. On the vaccine,
I'm with him too, hundred percent. I did not have I never got
the vaccine. But my point iswith what he what he preaches, I

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feel like this goes right into whathe's trying to do to try to say
people everybody dog limitations, all thelimitations with doctors and modern medicine and things
like that. If he does,I'll stand up and cheer as loud as
possible. If Aaron Rodgers pulls thisoff playing in an NFL game, which
would end up being about three anda half months after, right, and

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not about right fourth, seventy ninedays. Yeah, well, seventy nine
days and that's three months, wouldbe ninety days, and so we got
a handful of days here, Soyou're talking about one hundred days. Yeah,
it'd be a first I've ever seenin pro sports or college sports.
Yeah, seventy nine days since thesurgery. Okay, so that means seventy

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nine days since surgery did tomorrow's eightydays and we're starting December and thirty more,
so you're talking about one hundred andten days after surgery. He expects
to play. For the most part, I good luck. I'm not buying
into it. If he does,I'll say I was wrong, and the
rest of the world will too,because I don't think anybody really believes he's

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getting under center in the shotgun throwingfootballs for no reason. When you're out
of the playoffs, your star pupilis going to throw footballs on December twenty
fourth, just to prove to theworld he can after its Achilles. Yeah
yeah, I don't. You gotto guard him against himself too. Are
you going to actually stand up andcheer like you want to get it?
I will literally stand up and cheer. Do a videogain, hey Rod?

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Yeah, yeah, that's what I'lldo, Hey Rod, Yeah, yeah,
that's what I'll do. I justdon't see you doing that. You
probably won't. But it's just well, like him, he's coming back.
I'll tell you, I'm going tocelebrate too when he does. Do you
want to pop some bottles? No? I don't pop bottles? What at
the crib? How you celebrate thatgreat cup win? Well, we pop
bottles in I don't go into likeVegas clubs or a club. I'm not

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trying to ban and spend four hundredand eighty bucks. No, absolutely not.
Frog a little bottle of Tito's.It's like whatever whatever that yeah,
whatever trash vod because they're serving forfour fifty in a that's not try not
talking about Yeah no, yeah,when I could have gone to the store
about four bottles Taca whatever? Didyou ever Taka vodka. No, but

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I know I've tasted it. It'snasty. Came in like the plastic bottle.
Good, that's not a glass slappingthe bag bottle. Yeah, no,
whoa, whoa, whoa, what'swrong with the little thing at all?
I'm just telling you, Franzia,my favorite is the guy that would
go, just to impress me,drop fifty grand at a bottle table.
Yeah, and doesn't remember how itgot spent. That I before, that

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trash ass liquor they were drinking andwaking up the next day. What I
do Well, you were stupid,yeah, you and you didn't get it,
and you and you didn't even bangit home afterwards that you sure didn't.
Ye, you struck out dude.Yeah, hey, I think I'm
not trying to ball wash or anything, but I think watching your your some
of your old school videos that peopleon Twitter post of you, I think

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that's that's pretty uh pretty cool tosee, thank you know, like when
you're running around and throwing everything,you know, yeah, making it rain
on darts. What can you pleaseexplain to me why in the hell in
the corner league the end zone isso large and the goalposts are at the
front of the end zone. Whyis that? Because you know, the
CFLO doesn't feel like they have tochange the rules every year, But why
well, I don't. They've donesomething they've done, just like you can

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get the you know, a twopoint play by the way you kick it,
and I's explained that you can alsomove in motion more than one guy.
I can throw a fade route fromthe fifteen yard line like a go
route. It's like a thirty yardthree. Yeah. That thing is so
damn big, and it's the morewidth on the field, So yeah,
you got some space, a lotof girth on that judge, you know,
there is, yeah, a lotof room to rip it. Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, I watched thatall. Yeah, I watched that.
Highlight was last week? Yeah,last week? Which one is the
one of you went in the GreatCup? Oh yeah, that was fun.
Man, that was nice. Thisguy. Every now and then people
just posted it. You're like you'recruising up and down the sideline in one
of those clips, and I waslike, dude, he's about to rip
into an alignment or something and you'rejust in your own zone. Ye,

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talking to myself. Good ahead oflettuce real good letters, yeah, man,
And then going let it rip andwin a cup the chip. Do
you realize like you won the GreatCup? I do, like you won
the Great Cup. I realized Iwas the one taking the kneel down at
the end of Yeah, like throwingBB's before this, like how long did
it take? How long did ittake to hit you to be like?
Man, I I think that probablyyou know it's got to be one of

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the cool next day now, yeah, of course, Well it's a championship
at any level is the best.It was. It was a blast,
man, my first year there andthe way people treated it was like in
my teammates and the celebration. Ithink the next day or two when you
go to the parade, then you'rethe one who has to address the entire
audience at the at the to PickJets Arena after the parade. You know
how those it was really critic cool. They love their Canadian football teamure do.

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Good times, man, Yeah,it's very cool. Good memories.
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ratio here on Sports Talk seven ninety. You can also listen to us on
the Free iHeartRadio app Sean Bryan andTRIPLEI. The Rockets fall to the Nuggets.
They've lost two straight. Titus Howardout for the season for the Texans.
Juice Scrugs gonna make his NFL debuton the offensive line. Aaron Rodgers
returns to practice for the Jets.If you remember when the offseason hit last

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season in the NFL, the DenverBroncos job was available, the Texans,
the Panthers, the Cardinals. Allthose jobs were up for grabs, and
Demiko Ryan's name was the hottest onthe market. The Broncos wanted to get
Demico Ryans, but they ended uphaving Sean Payton as their next head coach.
He's done a phenomenal job. Theycome in to NRG Stadium this Sunday

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winning five in a row. Well, Demiko Ryans was asked about that Broncos
offering and he spoke about being happywith the Texans job. That's what the
head coach of the Texans had tosay. Yeah, the Broncos with the
Printer family, I mean, awesomeorganization. I think they're in really good
hands. I really appreciated them forthe opportunity right to sit down and talk

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with them about the head coaching opportunityand ended up here. It's just it
all worked out right. I'm justthankful and blessed to just be in a
position to have those conversations right withthe Broncos and for them thinking enough for
me to bring me in right tohave those conversations. Really appreciate mister Craig
Printer and you know all the peoplein the organization there for the Broncos.

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Has not many times you get theopportunity, So thankful for that and you
know, just happy to be herewith the Texas. Yeah. So of
course, Demiko Ryans, like Isaid, was one of the hottest names.
He was the guy that everybody triedto go get the Broncos brought him
in, had a couple of interviewswith him. But he's now the head
coach of the Houston Texans. Sean, you have seen, we have seen

(27:02):
what he has done with this organization. Yeah, his early returns on his
impact has been nothing short of phenomenal. And I mean, I guess we'd
all been after we see it.Now we get we're already spoiled. Oh,
they shouldn't be sick and five,they should be eight and three or
you know, whatever it is.We we completely He's half a year has

(27:26):
made us think, oh, man, our expectations of race. That's a
good thing. I mean, whenwhen your expectations raised, what do you
think the expectations are in Carolina rightnow? Not very good? Yeah,
I was going to say, makesure Bryshow doesn't get hurt. So you're
now at the point where he hascreated expectations, as has the quarterback and
his expectations obviously, And there's accountability, which to me is so important when

(27:49):
you're building a team and and fanbase and they are they bought in and
I don't think people are going tojust credit well, he was here before
and that's great when you're bringing himin because there's a familiarity, but nobody
cares if you've been here before.If you can't win, that's Scott Frost.
How that went Nebraska. Yeah,and he was there. He was
their guy, So you got tocome in and do some a matter of

(28:11):
fact, I think it adds morepressure because the expectations because they are familiar
with you, and he's lived upto him and exceeded him by far.
Now for him, the job's justgetting started at six and five. I
would imagine they had expectations, butdidn't expect to be in a position heading
into December that if they were totake care of their business, they're in
a playoff. They're in the hunt. And I think that's all you can

(28:32):
ask at this stage in their situationfrom this offseason, and the expectations are
through the roof, so I uh, and he's exceeding them. So now
got to get back to work andhe'll do all the awards and all the
pomp and circumstance from the seasons overright now, he's concerned about getting his
team all win and going against ateam that's playing really good football right now
in the Denver Broncos. Yeah,you know, we were talking about this

(28:53):
kimra fit was yesterday or day before. We were talking about kind of the
coach excuse me how coaching and gettingbuy in. It was when you know,
we were discussing Jimbo getting fired andthat's what it was. So it
was on Monday when Mike Elko wasintroduced to Texas A and M and we
were talking about getting buy in andthings like that. I think one of
the biggest things that I've seen sofar is Demico Ryans his impact. I

(29:15):
mean you can see it. Guysfly around on defense and we talked about
it all last season their defense,Uh, Jalen Petrie led the team in
tackles. That means that guys aregetting to the secondary and the second and
third level and that's why Jalen Petrieled the team in tackles. You don't
really see that as much this yearbecause guys are I don't know, if
it's a fundamental, they'll be morefundamental and actually making tackles. But you

(29:38):
can just see buying on the defensiveside of the football for Demiko holding guy.
That's what it was. Because youtalked about who was it Cliff Kingsbury
allows us allowed as players to havecell phones. Well, he said,
yeah, I felt like that wastwo player player friendly is one thing.
Player take advantage of is another one. Yeah, and your phone's not coming
in right, And I just thinkDemiko Ryans is holding guy accountable. And

(30:00):
we didn't see that under love Smith. We definitely didn't see it under David
David Cully, which all respect tothose guys, they've been in league forever,
but we just didn't see it.Well, they've been in the league
forever. The head coaching thing atthis stage of their careers not for them.
It may be for them, butthe truth is they weren't. They
actually game days were just that theywere at times it felt like in over

(30:22):
their head and that does That's nodisrespect for how great they were throughout their
careers and how good they've been asassistants. And Lovey Smith getting his team
to a super Bowl in Chicago.See it here nor there. It didn't
work here, And that happens ina lot of places. Sometimes it works,
sometimes it doesn't. But with thepast, and when you're playing defense
like that, they're more aggressive,they are flying around. I almost felt

(30:45):
like it became sedentary where said theword where you're just sedimentary. No,
there's no sedentary where you're just likewhen you're sitting all the time. You
know, you just say you're you'rein one place station. Yeah, no,
that were too. I'll I'm pronouncingit right. I just it's a
sedentary where it's uh where it's yourYou know, when somebody's like that,

(31:07):
they're not moving around much. It'slike you're sitting around se D E and
T A R Y. I believeit is outspelled regardless, but you get
the point. When they're playing theirpast defense, it is it is.
Yeah, that's uh, it's exactlyright. Yeah, sedentary is a person
that tends to spend much time seatedor inactive. Right there you go,
so, uh, thank you.Yeah yeah, I don't want to brag

(31:33):
so but let me but that's howthey felt when they were playing defense.
A lot of guys felt like theywere standing around very inactive while they were
supposed to be active. This defense, to me, preaches being active and
even on the offensive side of theball, going up block somebody, go
knock somebody down. When you're notgetting the football, there's an unselfish part
of that that matters. So thisdefense is far more active, which leads

(31:55):
to sometimes you may not hit theright guy. At least you're hitting somebody
and most of time they feel likethey're hit in the rank guy. Now,
last week the big players got alittle out of hand. They kay,
if you give a four to orof those this week, guess what,
You're not gonna win this game either. So unless you make five of
them yourself, and those are hardto come by forty plus yard plays.
So I would imagine that you knowthey'll be prepared for it. But you

(32:19):
know Russ Wilson, I think anearly start on him to force a few
turnovers might give you a hell ofa way to go. But he's been
playing good football. It's different,different Denver team than you saw in September.
Yeah, there's a couple of keynames for the Texans that were held
out of practice yesterday, and itgoes right along with offensive line injuries.
Who is it? We'll discuss nextright here on Sports Talk seven ninety the

(32:39):
Houston Sports World. Yes, SeanSalisbury knows how to play the game because
he really played the game. Yep, former pro QB. Right here,
he actually has it on his nametag former pro QD. Right here.
Back to Sean on Sports Talk sevenninety keeping see, I'm Brian kind of

(33:15):
rock and y'all all I gott likegive me something b when I might just
chill, you know, stot kissup way up the walk like sacri sial
but still roopie. Hey Cooochie's oneupuff for I got. Welcome back to
the John Salisbury Show, Sean Brynand Triple Lee talking to Texans football.

(33:37):
Your Rockets lost to the Nuggets lastnight, Tyus hourd out for the season,
Juice Scruggs gonna make his NFL debut, Aaron Rodgers returning to practice for
the Jets. Let's get out tothe phone line seven one three two one
two five seven. I let's startwith dominic. Dominic, good morning,
Hey, good morning, tell usgood morning to your entire past. Oh,

(33:57):
Sean straight up man, Like acouple of times this season this season,
forgive me this year. I calledin about Jimbo, and I called
in about Danna Hogeson. And nowyou know, last week everything went on
and with the Aggies a couple ofweeks ago, and with the Cougars or
whatnot, and just listening to youguys, last segment. Coaching matters.
Coaching matters all across the board.If you look at the Houston Rockets,
they pretty much got the same castof characters. They just got a different

(34:21):
coach with a different mindset and prettymuch has installed a differen set of different
culture. The Texans got a fewnew pieces, mainly at the quarterback position,
but you can't tell me that theDemiko Ryans just a walmo around the
building, has not completely changed thesignificance of the organization as a whole.
With the Texas and Maggie's all ofthat talent that they've had that we've talked

(34:43):
about over the last three four years. Number one recruiting class of top five
recruiting classes and still not to beable to sniff nine or ten wins or
even remotely get into the SEC titlegame. Coaching matters with the University of
Used in my school, son wentDan. When Dana Holgison was hired,
Okay, he came in, hewas hired for a reason to lay the

(35:05):
groundwork, but for the most part, the groundwork was already laid with with
with Robertson Stadium going down and TDCUcoming up, Okay, coaching matters.
All I'm saying is I'm looking forwardto what the ADUs are going to bring
next college season just by listening tojust by listening to their new coach talk,
just by watching Duke football. Whoactually spend spends a lot of time

(35:27):
watching the ACC Network and watching Dukefootball, Well I did because I was
like, this guy was very,very good when he was when he's to
a m DC, and now lookwhat he's done with the Duke program,
which he's left them in better hands. I'm looking forward to just watching this
battle between Sean Payton and Demico Riansbecause both of those well, Sean Payton
has more Telts on, more peltson the wall and everything, but Themico

(35:50):
has come in and completely nationwide alongwith we CJ made this team watchable,
made this team respectable. So andand this is all I'm saying is coaching
definitely matters. A strong hand,an, a stern foundation, all of
that matters. You can have allthe talent in the world, you can
have all of the nice, shiningbuildings and all of that stuff, but

(36:12):
if you have a leader that's goingto direct and put everything in place to
where it needs to go, andto get two guys to get people just
to run through a wall for you, it doesn't matter. So you guys
have a great day, enjoy yourshow. Thank you, Doma Dominic here.
Well, you're not going to haveto convince me that any harder than
that. I'm with you. Youdon't have to tell me the coaching side
what you are spot on. Itmatters whether you're coaching them in batting practice

(36:37):
or when I'm coaching quarterbacks. I'veseen the results. It's not just the
results of what I think. I'ma good coach, a damn good one,
and I know you believe you aretoo. I believe I coached the
position as well as anybody in thecountry. But it's also not me.
It's also getting the kid to believethat he can be the best in the
country. I never, as acoach want to believe in my kid more

(36:59):
than they do now. I believeit, but I want that kid to
believe in himself, regardless of whathis level of football skill is. It's
the same thing here is Damiko ryansSean page. Doesn't matter where you go.
He's exactly right. Whether it's dukefootball and Danny came in whoever at
Houston hires next. Yeah. Tome, great coaches while they create what's

(37:21):
the word culture in the building,you know all the different things where everybody
is in aligned and there's some poticoand everybody's on the same page. And
if you get questioned by an assistantcoach, it's not out of disrespect.
It's out of trying to make everybodybetter. And you're not offended, in
power hungry all those things. Buta great coach also knows when to put
an arm around one player and thenthe guy standing right next to him,
MANI to kick any ass. There'snot just one way to do it.

(37:44):
And to me, the greatest coachesknow that there's fifty ways to get buy
in byan isn't just standing up infront of a group and giving a speech
and hoping all of them walk outof the meeting room and say, eighty
five guys on scholarship, you're in, coach. But that's part of it.
The next part of it is knowingwhat guy maybe you can see through
it and communication see maybe he's havingtrouble with his girlfriend. Hey come on,
man, come on and listen toyou do it okay, and not

(38:05):
judge that or one guy struggling becausehe's can't pick up a playbook, Well,
then spend an extra half hour withhim. Gett your quarterback coach to
talk to him, whatever it is. So you're right, wells a matter
of fact, I can tell youthis coachings and teaching. I'm a teacher
first, coach second. Anybody canscream and you and blow whistle. Is
to teach and bring everybody along.You can't let anybody stay behind in the
locker room. You just can't.And so he's right, Dominic, you

(38:30):
have to coaching, and whoever Houstonhires is going to be Look at what
Kelvin Sampson's done here. Yeah,just look around, there's noe. You
got to have good players, butyou also have a guy who knows how
to get that goodness out of playerson and off the field. And that's
the genius of coaching. Give mea leader first. The ex'es and o's
will come next. Let keep itrolling on the phone lines. Let's go
to Marcus. Marcus, good morning, Good morning, guys. I wanted

(38:52):
to talk about the tapings, buta previous call. Hasn't he having a
question about you of age? Isthere a code that you can see they
could come in and turn this programaround, because to me, college coaches
was all very much recycled. Theydon't introduce very much new talent in the
coaching realm. And for the Texans, do you guys have any idea why

(39:15):
they ain't released secure Griffin? Ithought he was playing very well for us
and to just release him like wehave a pleasure of good cornerback to kind
of question about me and I justhang up and listen to what you guys
have to say till Marcus. Firstoff about Griffin is we only see Sundays.
You don't know what goes on inthe meeting room. I don't know,

(39:37):
to be honest, I saw it. You know what was it two
days ago or yesterday? I can'tremember. May was, yes, yesterday?
Yeah? And I was thinking thesame thing. Okay, depth wise
do you And this is just aftergiving up four hundred I mean four plays
over forty yards and then you startto think, okay, what was it?
Is it just performance? Was therean effort issue? Was there a
nonstose? I don't know, Ireally don't. It's I can with the

(40:00):
Raiders. I read Marcus Peters.They're talking about a guy whose effort is
I'm not putting Griffin the same category. Excuse me. Here's Marcus Peters,
a longtime player, and there's talkto the Raiders and if they didn't cut
him, have they cut him yetor we're playing on right right and to
the point where and it was likefor like the minimal effort or whatever it
was in quotes that I saw.I hope it's never effort that gets a

(40:22):
guy cut. If it is,and then then that's a DNA thing and
a character flaw. You're if youdidn't give you effort here, it's going
to be hard to get effort somewhereelse. So with with great and I'm
talking about with the Raiders and MarcusPeers in this case, I don't know
where the personality situation was, ifthe dB at the back end coach,
like you know, I were betterwith the backup here cheaper, I don't

(40:43):
know. I do know that it'snot just what you see on Sundays when
guys usually get cut, it's howit goes during the week. In his
case, I'm sure we'll hear,but I'm not in the building, so
I don't know. And I haven'teven heard any whispers other than performance as
to why they moved him on,moved on from him and seen it before

(41:04):
though he came in uh and playedreally well. When Derek Stingley went out
with his injury, he got apick too, I believe. Yeah,
I don't. I don't know whythey cut him. Yeah, but you're
judging from a distance and saw mycorrect what was Marcus? They didn't just
wake up one day and say,oh, you're a good player, let's
just cut you. Finances come intoplay, salary cap I'm not saying this

(41:27):
reading, but all the things thatyou say, well, why would a
guy get gut? Is he isthe is the meeting room? What they
want? Is he practicing the waythey want? Is he Okay? If
he was demoted, I'm not sayinghe was. You know what I'm saying.
All these things come to play.How are you as a teammate for
whatever reason? What you saw,what Marcus saw, what I may see
from a distance, isn't what they'reseeing in the building right a daily basis.
Yeah, Tamiko rans was asked aboutit yesterday and he said I wanted

(41:50):
to I quote, wanted to givehim opportunity to catch on somewhere else to
play football. Griffin stepped in,like I said, when Derek Stingely went
down, but when he came backhis playing time down. He hadn't played
in two games, right, Howdo we know that he fits into what
they're trying to do. And youknow, you look at some of these
other players that are on the defensiveside in the secondary. I feel like
there are two or three other guysthat should not have been playing in front

(42:12):
of Shack. But like you said, we don't know. You said what
it looks like during the week,and I'll bet you if we went back
there. See you're just watching onthe play that he may make. Are
you watching when the balls away fromhim? How many guys may have I'm
just giving you answers that it's easyfor us to say say, wow,
that coach doesn't know what he's talkingabout. Well, he knows a bit
more than we do. Staying aroundthem every day, not for three hours
on a Sunday, when you getto see the guy. If he's starting

(42:35):
play sixty five plays, there's areason, and it may not be one
you like, but there's a reason. And I'm going to trust Demiko Ryans
at least the guy had the gutsto get rid of him early, so
go catch on. Yeah, ifthat's the case, that's I mean,
that's what the mean coaching. Butyes, coaching matters, and in college
even more so. You're the you'rethe coach, You're the at times the
GM and the athletic trick because you'rearound him. They come to you first,

(42:59):
and you're the dad or the momaway from home a lot of times
for the kid. So the responsibilityof a coach gets bigger. And remember
you're dealing with eighteen year olds attimes too. As we get into the
seven o'clock hour, c J.Stroud spoke about what stands out to him
going against the Broncos. Where wewill hear the audio and discuss next right
here on the Shawn Salisbury Show,kd E Houston, k t V HD

(43:20):
two Houston, an iHeart radio station. How about the masts as a Rocket
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(43:44):
Salisbury, Houston. Okay, let'sdo this, Sewn Salisbury to longtime
French Chop Sulisbury, Ryan La Lima, Go Lobo. He stopt to the
shaking shop. I'm coming away.This is the Sean Salisbury Show. You're

(44:06):
listening to the Sean Salisbury Show hereon Sports Talk seven ninety. You can
also listen to us on the freeiHeartRadio app. Shawn Salisbury, Brianllimamanuel Elmore.
The Rockets loose to the Nuggets lastnight. Titus hourd out for the
seasons for the Texans. Aaron Rodgersreturning to practice for the Jets. The
Broncos coming into town this Sunday atNRG Stadium. They've won five in a

(44:28):
row. The quarterback for the Texans, CJ. Stroud, talked about the
Broncos defense and what it's gonna taketo win this game on Sunday. This
is what he just trited out tosay. Yeah, really talented, definitely
up fine. Two former teammates ofmine, Baron and Koop who set to

(44:51):
edge of the well. They makeplays Hi for guys, great great rushing
the ball. You gotta be keeptwo hands on the ball. They trying
to get the ball out a lot. Uh Simmons thirty one is a great
player. Sartana of courses. Ithink if he's not the best corner,
he's definitely top three. But he'smy favorite corner in the league right now.
I got a lot of respect forthat guy. So we got our

(45:13):
hands full. Man. They're they'rea great team, and we gotta bring
our a game, man, andwe'll get a dub at home, Get
a dub at home, get adub talented up front for the Broncos,
even though they are a bottom fivedefense. Yeah, category, what happens
when somebody offers you a dub?What do you do? You tell you
eat it? Yeah, you gottaeat it. You eat a dub?

(45:35):
Show me how to do that?I'm not show me give me that speech.
No, pretend like you're I don'tknow, maybe James Winston, do
you want me to wrap in frontof you? Oh? I just want
you to tell me how you whatdo you do to you? How do
you eat that dub? What doyou eat a dub? What is?
He could go down as one ofthe five worst game speech is ever.

(45:57):
Mhm. Getting back to Dominic andthis coaching thing real quick. Yes,
he asked about you of h No, that was oh wait, talking about
Marcus asked about I'm talking about dominiccoaching matter. Yeah, coaches matter.
And you mentioned Jimbo. Jimbo hadhis running Jimbo will coach again at Texas
A and M. The hype wasfar bigger than the performance from him.

(46:21):
You could argue over the last fouryears, the most overrated coaching college football
resided today and M considering the moneythey spent and what they got. Ro
Oi, wasn't it. And Andlike I said, if you're another program
and you want to coach, thatcan come in and Jimbo Fisher knows how
to coach, there's Jimbo's gonna haveto make some adjustment. I don't know
for seventy five extra million dollars.Maybe he just says, I'm going to

(46:44):
the ranch and you guys do whateveryou want. I'm not doing squad for
the next year. The coaches coachHouston Art Radio Station. How about the
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(47:14):
Salisbury, Houston. Okay, let'sdo this, Sewn Salisbury, you see
you long time Friend, Chump Salisbury, Ryan Laalima, Go Lobos. Stop
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(47:37):
to the Sewn Salisbury Show here onSports Talk seven ninety. You can also
listen to us on the free iHeartRadioapp. Shawn Salisbury, Brian Lalima,
Manuel Elmore. The Rockets loose tothe Nuggets last night. Titus Hoard out
for the season for the Texans.Aaron Rodgers returning to practice for the Jets.
The Broncos coming into town this Sundayat NRG Stadium. They've won five

(47:57):
in a row. The quarterback forthe Texan c J. Stroud, talked
about the Broncos defense and what it'sgonna take to win this game on Sunday.
This is what's he just ride outto say. Yeah, really talented,
definitely up front. Two former timmatesof mine, Baron and Coop,

(48:20):
who set the edge of the wellto make plays high for guys. Great,
great rushing the ball. You gottabe keep two hands on the ball
there. They try to get theball out a lot. And uh Simmons
thirty one is a great player certainof courses. I think if he's not
the best corner. He's definitely topthree. But he's my favorite corner in
the league right now. I gota lot of respect for that guy.

(48:42):
So we got our hands full.Man. They're they're a great team,
and we gotta bring our a game, man, and we'll get a dub
at home, Get a dub athome, get a dub talented up front
for the Broncos, even though theyare a bottom five defense. What category?
What happens when somebody offers you adub? What do you do?
You tell you eat it? Yeah, you gotta eat it? Do you

(49:04):
eat a dub? Show me howto do that? I'm not show me
give me that speech. No,pretend like you're I don't know, maybe
James Winston, you want me towrap in front of you. No,
I just want you to tell mehow you what do you do to you?
How do you eat that dub?What do you do you eat a
dub? What is could go downas one of the five worst game speeches

(49:25):
ever. M getting back to Dominicand this coaching thing real quick. Yes,
he asked about you of h No, that was oh wait talking about
uh Marcus asked about I'm talking aboutdominic coaching matter. Yeah, coaches matter.
And you mentioned Jimbo. Jimbo hadhis running Jimbo will coach again at

(49:45):
Texas A and M. The hypewas far bigger than the performance from him.
You could argue over the last fouryears, the most overrated coaching college
football resided to Day and M,considering the money they spent and what they
got. R O I wasn't it. And And like I said, if
you're another program and you want acoach that can come in Jimbo, Fisher

(50:07):
knows that coach there's Jimo's gonna haveto make some adjustment. I don't know
for seventy five extra million dollars.Maybe he just says, I'm going to
the ranch and you guys do whateveryou want. I'm not doing squat for
the next year. But a coachis a coach, as a coach trailer
is supposedly is he interviewing today orthis week with University of Houston. Let's
see. I think it's today.I think he already did, or maybe

(50:30):
the confirmed that the interview did happenor he was about to. I was
reading and I can't remember what thinwas it. Duarte who I saw,
Who's a really good writer. Waswas it maybe with that article for the
for the Chronicle? I can't rememberwhere I saw it, but I do
know this. If he gets inthe building, his resume starts long before

(50:52):
he gets You don't even need tosee the piece of paper. Apparently,
Uh, he's interviewed already twice nowfor the KRCY Houston. Josh, I
thought I won't let him out ofthe building a third time. If that's
the case. The guy I'm alwayslooking, I'm not saying. And was
it Dominic or Mark? I thinkit was Dominic who said. Was it
Dominic or Marcus who said we don'tgo out and get new coaches? Marcus

(51:14):
asked about recycled coaches, recycled upand coming. Well, Jeff Trailer is
one of them local Mississippi State.Did we say we don't we only recycle
them. I think we actually doa pretty good job in college football of
giving guys that haven't been head coaching. We do recycle a lot of NFL
stuff, But Jeff Levy's never beena head coach. No, you didn't

(51:34):
know who Jeff Traylor was before hegot this job. Look at what Willie
Fritz is doing. That's my point. Now, in the coaching world,
they're known, but you would havenever looked at any of those guys and
say they're big. I can tellyou now, all you got to do
is look at the two programs atUTSA and Tulane and ask yourself, here's
the question I have. For instance, if you're speaking to the A and
m's or a big Power five schoolor University of Houston, a Power five

(51:58):
school that wouldn't be considered a NASHtitle contender right now, there's a two
schools of thought. Which one's toughercoaching at a bigger program because there's more
money in the expectations like Texas Aand M more. I know there's pressure,
but there's pressure everywhere. You putpressure on yourself to be a great
coach. Or is it easier torebuild or build a program that's not any

(52:21):
good. It's just kind of blobthat's had their moments over their time.
Tulane's had moments in the past,but tu Lane's also been not very good
for a while, right Willie Fritz, Look what he's on. UTSA is
a program. Look what Jeff Trailer'sdone to the program? So which one?
If you're an athletic director and apresidenter you looking for more the leader?
I know the qualities people want,at least that I'd want if I

(52:44):
was Chris Pesman or if I wasthe AD at Texas A and M.
But the question I have, what'sthe easier path to success walking into a
situation that's a loaded copboard and theprograms there, all you got to do
is when I say, all youyou got to do is win? But
you got all every single resource atyour fingertips to build too, and you

(53:07):
get recruits? Is that harder tomanage that and lead that? Or to
go to a program where you don'thave a lot of money, the facilities
aren't up to par with what you'regoing to get at A and M or
at Wisconsin or at USC or atAlabama or at LSU and have to build
it from scratch and get guys believing. At UTSA and Tulane we're really frigging

(53:30):
good. We can beat USC,which Tulane did. UTSA, we can
beat a high ranking Power five typesschool, which UTSA can do. So
one. What's on your wish list? More? And if Jeff Trailer has
been here twice and you probably havean idea now that you love him.

(53:50):
Now, I don't know who thewe hear all the names, but who
legitimately is Chris Pesman's final list ofcandidates, right, But if you've been
interviewed twice, they like you.And I simply look at he obviously knows
high school recruiting because he's in Texas, because he coaches in Texas, and
I think that guy, there's probablybigger jobs for both and this is a
bigger job. But the truth isboth to Lane and utsa's programs have been

(54:15):
better than the University of Houston overthe last few years when it comes to
wins and losses. So and it'llbe an upgrade because the facilities in the
money and I get it. Andit's another chant and you're in the Power
five here, you're a big twelveteam, and I think that's got to
be intriguing for a guy like JeffTrailer. I mean, also, along
with everything that you just said,Willie Fritz is pretty much in the same

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boat. He was phenomenal at samHouston State, took a step up and
went and coached Georgia Southern, thenleft to go to Tulane. He's been
aac Coach of the Year the lasttwo seasons success success, success everywhere he's
gone. That's exactly right, He'swon titles. They're two lane this year
is eleven and one. You seewhat UTSA is doing with Jeff Trailer.
Both of these guys are young andupcoming to They're not young, but they're

(55:00):
up and coming. And these arethis would be in terms of big power
five school coaching a Power five school, and they're about to. They both
have an opportunity to become the nextUniversity Houston head coach. Yeah, and
tell me where Willy Fritz hasn't hadsuccess. You can't. I mean over
the last handf I mean, theguy's gone in and they've all been programs
that you would say need that theylack with Houston or Texas A and m

(55:23):
has all that money, right andunderstandably so, and yet he still went
out and got buying coach football andgot better and is held in high regard.
So for me, I mean,who wouldn't want to And the thing
about it is, I think aboutJeff Trailer and I followed him pretty closely,
and obviously Willie Fritz is who wouldn'twant to coach? Next to them.
We talk about just the players,the buy in from other members of

(55:46):
that you're going to hire on yourstaff to recruit, to teach, to
coach, and to be good atit and lead. It'd be easy.
I mean, who wouldn't Jeff Traidlercalls you, Jeff Trailer calls me up,
Willi Fritz calls him to Sean,Come on, who wouldn't want to
coach with them? Because you knowwhat you're getting on the success and the
energy level, which is important toI would imagine others would be important to

(56:08):
me if I was interviewing for acoaching job. So it's not just getting
recruits, it's getting players coaches thatalso buy into everything you're doing. They
don't all have to think exactly likeyou, but they all got to buy
into what you're doing. And that'simportant to a coach that can get other
coaches to leave programs and come coachwith you. And I think both have
that ability. Yeah, I thinkthey both do. I think those are

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the two top names. Jeff Trailerhas already been interviewed. Willie Fritz looks
like he's going to. If hedoes take the interview, it'll be after
the conference championship game for TWU Lane, which is this WEEKND Man, I
don't blame it, I'm saying,and I don't know what the rules are
on that. I would imagine there'sone day during the week you can But
if regardless, my priority, thereason you're getting this interview is because of

(56:52):
what you've done at TU Lane.I've always believed. I've just never understood
you can't wait a week. YouI mean as a school or a coach.
Hey, they offered me a job, Okay, let them know.
Because if I was an athletic directorreal quick. If I was an athletic
director and I wanted to hire youand your team was eleven and one getting
ready to play in a conference championshipthree days from now, you deserve the

(57:15):
crew. If you just bolted onyour kids immediately, and I understand why,
I would, as an ad sayyou know what, no, no,
no, you go finish up whichyou started at Tulane or at UTSA
in Tulane because they're in the conferencechampionship. Go take care of your business.
This job ain't going anywhere for fourmore days. I'll see you Sunday,
Bam. I've never understood. Yeah, I got no, no,

(57:37):
no, no. If you wantthe job, four days isn't going to
mean the difference in whether we're successfulthree years from now. And you owe
it to the kids that you builtit for, because it tells me when
you bolt on them, that youjust bolt on anybody as a coach.
Yeah, finish the finish the gig. And I respect that, even if
the rules make you finish it.To me, I would want to finish
it for the kids that I builtgetting there that head coaching job, especially

(58:00):
if you know they want you.You're not going anywhere. No, they're
not going to go anywhere. No, you don't have to chase it.
Let them chase you. You've earnedit. Yeah, and they're going to
play. Tulane is at home againstSMU and that conference championship game three o'clock
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Thank you from the management team hereat Sports Talk seven ninety. Back to
Shawn Salisbury. All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

(59:13):
This Salsbury's takeout shells takeout on theSean Salisbury Show. You know what
time it is, so steak outhere on the Shawn Salisbury Show. What
are you hearing out there? Sean? Probably nothing. I haven't heard anything,
man, you No, not really. I mean I got my ear
to the pavement. Nice. Nice. I heard you want to eat a

(59:36):
w like to eat a dub?Who doesn't you ever eat a dub?
Quite often? Yes, I winevery day some former fashion you know what
I mean? Yeah, you cangive me one of your speeches. No,
not today, not today? Ohyeah, maybe maybe the nine o'clock
hour fifteen. Stay tuned, excuseme, stay tuned? All right?

(59:58):
College football obviously everything we've just gotabout the college football playoffs. We're gonna
also hit on that at eight o'clockagain. Got Kirk kurb Street audio a
little fired up about these final eightteams that have a say in the college
fotball playoffs. But Matt Rule,the head coach of Nebraska, talked about
nil and a good quarterback. Thisis what Matt Rule had to say about

(01:00:19):
that nil making a mistake that agood quarterback of the portal costs you know,
a million, a million, fiveto two million dollars right now,
So just just won the same page, right, So let's make sure we
all understand what's happening. So youknow, there's some teams that have six,
six or seven million dollar players playingfor him. So is that frustrating

(01:00:42):
the way where we're at now?The dollars it is where it is that
No, No, you know,I would not let people be able to
buy people off another roster. It'sso simple, Like you think about you
recruit some money and you develop themfor two years, and then someone comes
in and takes them. Then thatcoach gets fired. You know, it's
like, well he actually did apretty good job. So okay, So
two more points before we get tothe question, Uh, there was a

(01:01:07):
football player for U of H thathas already been offered half a million dollars
to transfer out of Houston and goto a school. I believe it's an
SEC school. And then another pointhere. Kelvin Sampson, the head coach
of Houston University of Houston men's basketball, talked about the challenges with NIL and

(01:01:27):
transfer portal and he said, quote, it's a battle. We're in a
war out here. It used tobe all bricks and mortar. Now it's
the other stuff, the NIL,the transfer portal. We just got to
buy a few more jeeps, afew more tanks, a few more rocket
launchers. We've got to keep themcoming in. Quote all of this going
along. I've asked you before aboutNIL, and next segment we're going to
talk about the transfer portal heating upbecause there's some big, big time players

(01:01:51):
that are literally leaving their schools togo to different universities. What now,
not? What when will something happenas far as regulations for NIL. Oh,
that's the golden question, the goldenticket. Not only when the question
and when we're going to get theanswer after we put it out there and
That's the conflict is how you dealwith the transfer portal and and how you

(01:02:15):
deal with nil. The coaching professionschanged. Like I said, you got
to recruit the parents, you gotto recruit the kid. Then you got
to keep recruiting the kid while he'salready on your roster. And not only
why you're recruiting him, you gotto keep giving him money so he doesn't
leave. Excuse me, I amwith Matt Ruhle on it, but I'm
not a fence center much when itcomes to how I feel about a lot

(01:02:37):
of things. But there is theslippery slope, and that's why regulation and
how you're going to draft this upand and get this where it's some normalcy,
because it is right. A collegecoach is standing there at a press
conference answering questions about quarterback and says, you know, it's a million,
it's a too million. You getto cost you a couple million dollars to

(01:02:58):
go get a good quarterback. Nowwe're literally at the point. Now,
don't tell me this is college football. I don't want to hear that somebody
cheated by giving somebody a hat orbottom a pizza after their scholarship check was
done. Just be quiet NC too. I don't want to hear that.
If we literally can can call aguy up and say, man, you're
interested in transfer, we got amillion and a half bucks here for you.

(01:03:21):
Yeah, I'm out. Riley Leonardalready leaving. Duke coach leaves,
But I don't know whether he's goingto Notre Dame like Sam Hartman did from
a different school, if he's goingto follow his coach to Texas A and
M. I don't know. Buthere's the other side of it. And
I'm all for the player getting paid. I'm not for the player. Listen,
if I got I'm not interested inrecruiting a player and having to go

(01:03:43):
and pay them five million dollars isa seventeen year old high school junior or
senior. I'm just not. Iknow that that's the game, and the
rules say, well, we're notreally doing that. Yeah you are.
In essence, you are. There'sa way to get around it, of
course you are. You may nothand it to him while he's a junior,
but you say there's two and ahalf million dollar waiting for you the
second you graduate and leave in Decemberto come here and play, and in

(01:04:04):
the spring I'm all for kids gettingwhat they're what they've earned, no offense.
A high school quarterback hadn't earned squadat my campus yet, And that's
and I have to pay them whenI already got people here who are working,
and you're going to make more asa high school senior than the junior
who's trying to play. Hey,I just have a problem with the pecking
order. But that's called life.Meant it's not fair and it goes so

(01:04:27):
I get both sides. I justcan't. What are we going to start
doing now? We're gonna start payingthe high school kid to keep them at
your high school? Is that goingto be what I mean? Well,
we said we weren't going to givehand to hand cash the kids, and
we already are. And I canmake up any and ill. Hey man,
I want you to come speak toour sales staff every three months and
I'll pay you a half a milliondollars a year. How do you come
in? What's coming to shake handsand kiss babies? What's the the factor

(01:04:51):
in all this? And how yougetting paid? But it's happening all over
work. We got high college kidsmaking more than then an entry than a
rookie who was a fifth round draftpick that haven't played it down in the
NFL yet, so it's crazy.I'm all for Listen, I don't believe.
I'm not a socialism guy. Thequarterbacks is going to get paid more

(01:05:12):
than the right guard, the bestrunning back in the country. They just
start and it's a bummer, butit does. And in some schools like
you taught or BYU, everybody getsa vehicle whatever it was, and that's
cool. I'm all for it.The jealousies that you incur and all that
with all this, but I don'thave problem with paying them the right way.
I'm not paying a high school kid. If it gets to that point,
you can. We're almost already sowild West you can't keep up with

(01:05:34):
it. But kids are not transferringbecause they're hurt and lost their job.
They're not transferring because their eligibilities iseverything got one extra year. They're not
transferring because their parents moved and youjust did the coach changed and you're not
doing it. They're transferred for someof those reasons. They're simply now transferring.
Oh I'm the backup and I've beenhere two years and I'm one injury
away from being your starter and beinga star, or somebody offered me two

(01:05:56):
million bucks, I'm leaving. I'mleaving. So they're leaving for the money.
They're free agents. Is the factthat you can watle guys under scholarship,
tamper with him and offer him moneyto leave is beyond me. The
other side of it, though,for Matt Rule's side, Well, you
develop a kid and he leaves twoyears later, yep. And you,
as a coach at times develop youtell kids you love him and that they're

(01:06:16):
great, and you're going to behere for seven years and you leave to
go from Nebraska to Michigan. Well, you have a buyout, I get
it, but you still do soit goes both ways. The kid's got
to be rewarded. But I thinkwe've gone one hundred and I mean we've
gone way overboard on one hundred andeighty degrees on what we're trying to get
accomplished here. I think there doeshave to be some you know, somehow

(01:06:41):
this slope is so slippery. Butpay him, Yes, But I'm not
hand to hand catched to go recruita kids. Say I got a better
opportunity for you. Come to NotreDame. We'll pay two and a half
million bucks. It's legal. Team. If you're a kid, of course
you're leaving. Yeah, it's right. And so while the rules say it,
you got to do it, butyou got to regulate this sooner or
later. So I'm with Matt rule, but I'm also coaches can leave with
then why camp players? But there'snothing good for me maybe for the kid

(01:07:03):
a kid transferring five times in hiscollege career four times, it just can't
be that way. And if youget beat out and want to transfer,
and you've been beat out four times, maybe just maybe maybe the fifth times
not for you. Maybe just gotto gut it out. But then again,
if you'd go and you're starting thefifth time and you get an opportunity
grade hard for me to speak forsome other kid, but I just know

(01:07:25):
this that it's out of hand.Yeah, it's crazy, out of hand
that a coach is telling us,oh, it's a two million dollar job
you got to recruit to get aquarterback. What it's nuts, while he's
already under on scholarship somewhere else.Yeah, and starting for the other school.
Right. Yeah, I'm not intothat. Sorry, I don't buy
into it. Let's keep talking aboutthe Transfer Transfer Portal in NCAA. What's

(01:07:47):
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Shawn Salisbury Show, Sean Bryan andTripoli. Rockets lose to the Nuggets last

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night. Titus Howard out for theseason for the Houston Texans. Juice Scrugs
gonna make his NFL debut this Sundayon that offensive line for Houston. Aaron
Rodgers, attorney to practice for theJets. Talking college football in this transfer
portal, Some big names leaving theirschools to enter this transfer portal. One

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of them right down the road.Max Johnson, the QB for Texas A
and M. He's transferring out,reportedly going to be headed to North Carolina.
Riley Leonard, the duke quarterback.I wonder if he's gonna head over
to Texas A and M to followMike Elko. Still no word on that.
EMMITTT. Smith's son, running backE. J. Smith. He's

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leaving Stanford to enter the transfer portal. And then there's just a host of
other names. I mean, yougot one of the top wide receivers from
Texas A and M. You've gota wide receiver from Florida in Caleb Douglas.
Offensive tackle from Clemson Mitchell, MitchellMay's I mean diglals goes on and
on and on. These guys arethese are guys. These are guys that

(01:11:42):
are playing, that are starting forthese schools and they're leaving. This is
like baseball and basketball. Free agencykicks in at midnight and you go and
now it's just it's rampant guys whoare starting. Max Johnson at one point
was starting at LSU. Max Johnsonat one point was starting at Texas A
and M. Now Max Johnson's goingto go to Carolina and try to compete.
I mean, Kate Slovas. It'son like four different schools or whatever

(01:12:05):
it is. From USC, youa USC, pitt BYU right that three
we know JT. Dangel. Imean it happens now, guys, They've
created a opening for guys to justup and go whenever they want. And
I know you want what's best foryour kid, and I get it.
Sometimes what's best for your kid isto gut it out. But I'm not

(01:12:26):
saying listen, I know Brad,and I know I mean Max's dad and
he's a competitive sucker. It'll benice for him because he's an Athens,
Georgia guy. Now, and it'sbe close for you. Go to North
Carolina and Mac Brown. Give thiskid a chance there. I don't.
I have no issue with that ifthe rules allow it. But at some
point in time leaving a school.The worst part of it is high school

(01:12:48):
kids thinking they're entitled to cash beforethey get on campus. Number one,
and it's absurd. I don't carehow good you are. Two is me
being able to call your school andsay, i'd like your quarterback, and
we got three million dollars in thecoffers for him in our collective. Come

(01:13:08):
on over. What Yeah, comeon over. They will direct deposit it
when you sat on campus, putyour name on the paper. Okay,
cool, I'm in. You don'treally even need scholarship contracts anywhere to shake
a hand and go, because they'reall breakable. So what's the matter.
So the old letter of intent,I mean, the intent is if I'm
not playing or getting paid, I'mleaving. That's how. That's what the

(01:13:30):
intent of a lot of these kidsis now, And there you go.
I don't hate him for it,but I do. I'm adamantly against a
high school kid thinking he deserves tobe paid before he's played a dime of
football. And I'm completely against youtrying to pluck a guy off my roster
because you got more money. Canyou imagine the NFL if you'd call up
Mahomes and say, dude, they'repaying you that I got the two hundred
million more dollars for you, you'reunder contract, you want to just leave?

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And he could say that's what Yes, that's what it is. That's
what this is. It's worse freeagency than any lee we got, right
because other ones you at least gotto wait till a deadline. You at
least got I mean here, it'slike I come and goes, I want
oh transfergin o transfergano transfer again.Sure. Now, it's just typical of
what society is. I'm not sayingin every case when you do that,

(01:14:15):
well, they're not running from maybethe guy got hurt once. Way,
I get that part of it,you know, the part I'm talking about.
I actually think, like society,we teach you to run from challenge
and adversity as opposed to sit thereand stare it straight on. That's what
I think a lot of these kids. And it's about the money. And
if you're playing for the money,I don't mind you want the money.
If you're playing for the money,chances are you won't be able to sting

(01:14:38):
greatness. There's got to be somethingelse to it. It's crazy, this
whole thing with a transfer portal,and it's not even just I mean,
I know we focus on on thebig money makers for the NCAA, which
is college football, but it's rampingin other sports as well. I just
saw, literally, just as I'mscrolling through Twitter, I saw one of
the top players for the Florida Gatorssoftball team, Kayla Lefti. She is

(01:15:00):
entering the transfer portal. She playedevery game last year, and it's just
because you know what, nobody watchesit, so nobody cares. So I
mean, they cared her family andoh yeah at Florida and where she's going.
But overall, I don't know whoshe is. I don't know how
good her game is. He playedevery game. But she's leaving because she
wants a different you know, Iguess or doesn't for whatever reason. But
the reason why we don't talk aboutother sports is nobody knows there because nobody

(01:15:24):
till the national championship type of notenough people are watching. We don't know
who the stars are in softball.I don't usually until their careers are over.
That's when we kind of find oh, this was a great pitcher at
UCLA or USC great. Yeah so, but we sure as hell know when
it comes to football and basketball.Yeah, it's crazy to think about seven
one three, two, one twofive seven. I needs go to Brad.

(01:15:45):
What's up? Brad? Hey,what's up? Guys? I mean,
let's call it what it is.It's flat out tampering, that's all
it is. And they can getaway with it because there's no rules.
Now what I foresee just maybe I'mwrong in this. I can see some
of these big alum who have thesebig corporates come in, pick a kid
off and say you will be herefor X y many years. I'll give

(01:16:05):
you. We're going to give youraise after raise after raise, and you
stay, you know, you stayand make him sign a contract, make
you put his money where his mouth. Let's make that player say you know
what, I am committed here?What do you think about that? I
mean, yeah, oh I thinkthat happens already though, Brad. If
it doesn't, I've said it.When this transfer portal and name, image

(01:16:26):
and likeness kicked in and it startedto flow quickly the last couple of years,
I said, we're we're going downa dangerous going down into a dangerous
hole. Man, Because what's goingto happen If you're a corporation and you
get a five star recruit and youthrow that money in there and say,
yeah, I got five million dollarsfor him, and the kid decides to
leave after a year and has collectedthree million of it, and you haven't

(01:16:47):
got return on your investment because oflitigation and the rest of it, You're
you're out. If I was acorporate executive and a big money donation guy
to a university and I they wanted, Mekay, can you we need three
million dollars to get this quarterback?I would have to put it on paper
because I would also put in therehere's here's, here's what you've got to

(01:17:09):
kit. If you don't do it, the money cuts off, and quite
frank, if you're not living upto it, you can't bolt if you
do, and I've paid you abonus up front, a half a million.
Half that bonus is coming back tome if you don't live up to
the contract. Now watch these kids. So who whoa, whoa, whoa
whoa. I got to give youa half a million dollars or a million
dollars back if I transfer at theend of my freshman year. That's exactly
right, and I and screw giveit. Listen, I'm not going to

(01:17:31):
keep what I'm not going to do. And were I differ from you on
this, brat, I'm not goingto keep. Oh maybe incentives if you've
had a good season in your startingbut I'm not going to keep telling some
kid I gave him two hundred andfifty grand as a collective or as an
endorsement, and I'll give you fivehundred if you stay. I'm not paying
the kid saying well, here's halfa million you've been backing up, but

(01:17:53):
just stay here and give it time. No, no, no, that's
not a good return on my investment. I mean, but I'm with you.
I'd make them sign a contract andif you leave, you're paying the
money back if you break the contractperiod, right. But like I brought
up before to you, let's behonest. Notre Dame. The de Barrios
own the forty nine ers. Theyhave building after building in Notre Dame.

(01:18:15):
If them guys wanted their own littleminor league football team, they could go
get the top twenty two in thenation and give them two million each and
not blink an eye. But youknow what they think, probably like I
do, What am I really goingto get to the return on my investment
for twenty four guys at two milliona year given forty eight million bucks away?

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The answer to that question is absolutelynot. And I agree with that.
But I'm just saying no, I'mwith you, and there are guys.
Listen. If Caleb Williams wanted tostay around one more year and somebody
said, man, I like toget you away from USC you want to
come play at Notre Dame, We'llgive you twelve million dollars to do it,
I would imagine he may listen.There's no question. So there's got

(01:19:00):
to be some regulations because with everythingfor the kid, But when does the
business owner step in and say no, no, no, no, dude,
I just paid you two million bucks. Now you're transferring and part of
it was a bonus that you haven'tfulfilled. The rest of that contract.
Half of that money comes back tome. I sure hope you haven't spent
it yet, because now I'm takingyour ass to court and you don't have
enough money to defend yourself, likemy corporation that's worth a billion dollars does.

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So be careful now when you doit. I'd start putting the kid
to the point where the kid couldn'tleave on a regular basis or what he
wanted because he's under contract, orhe's gonna have to pay it back.
And most guess what, they don'twant to do pay the damn thing back.
Yeah, I'm not giving the kidall that leeway. I'm just sorry.
They're grown adults, so they gotparents. They don't get to dictate
to my company, me giving youmoney just because you're a five star recruit.

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Most five star recruits don't end upin the NFL anyway. Somehow,
they fizzle along the way. Sogive me a three star recruit that wants
to play, as opposed to afive star recruit that transfers for money,
and I'll whoop your ass six waysto Sunday on a regular basis. Thanks
brother, Thanks, Now, Ilisten, there's said listen, there's certain

(01:20:10):
guys you just got to have.I get it. I get why.
If you're a quarter if you needa quarterback, and you've got a bunch
of money sitting you collective and yourAlabama or your Southern count you got a
ton of money. What's two million? Well to me, it's still two
million. I'm not giving money awayjust because I can thumbs up and get
pat on it. Yeah, yougot you're the one who gave that money
up. Yeah, the kids nowthe third string guy and has decided to
transfer and hasn't lived up to thefull contract, he doesn't get to keep

(01:20:33):
all that money because in my contract, if I'm the business, your ass
is signing something that you So ifyou're spending it, better bean an account
because I'm getting it back. Orwhen you go to the NFL, half
of that money's mine. So that'sgoing to prevent you from just taking and
running. You don't get to dothat on my watch. I don't.
I don't need the publicity in aschool. We got a building named after

(01:20:53):
you. With screw your building.I still gave up money and to give
return on investment. Hold them accountable. Those kids need to be able accountable.
It's like a friggin' adult does.Yeah, let's get to break and
we'll continue to talk about this transferportal. What gives? What's gonna happen?
That's next on sports Flock seven ninety, Hello haters from LA to New
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(01:22:02):
College football Rockets, fall of theNuggets, Titus Howard out for the
seasons for the Houston Texans. AaronRodgers returns to practice for the Jets on
light duty. Let's go back outto the phone line seven three two two
five seven. Andy, Let's startwith Bill, Bill, what's up?
You remember when we used to getmad at college coaches for signing a six

(01:22:24):
year contract and after two years they'rejumping and moving on, and people hollered
and screaming because there's no repercussions.The players couldn't do that, coaches could.
Now we're all upset with players doingit rampantly now because the way the
system has been played out. Andwhat I think is funny is uh you
mentioned Riley Leonard, the kid fromDuke. He's also been a kind of

(01:22:46):
attached to remembers to Notre Dame.If he goes to Notre Dame, that
would be two straight quarterbacks that theacc from the a SEC has landed at
Notre Dame. When is Notre Damenever gonna get a quarterback that they recruit
if they stay and mold and keep, you know, it's too that could
said. That could be said fora lot of college teams. Yeah,

(01:23:08):
especially a quarterback. We're eliminating thecompetition. Well, think about teams.
I just got a message from afriend of mine who played and went to
school at Baylor as a big fan. I've got a message and said,
the teams like Baylor that don't havea monster nil but are Power five schools.
And quite frankly, we're in thehunt for the national title a couple
of years ago, and you know, I mean have been there so you're

(01:23:30):
you're eliminating the competition pool with therich that are just going to keep getting
richer. But you make great pointabout the coaches. But here's the one
thing about the coaches that they've alwayshad that the players don't buy out.
If you want to get Dabblos Sweeneyout of his contract book, what's gonna
cost you twenty five thirty million dollars? So for him to leave, there's

(01:23:53):
there's got to be some big payinvolved for the player to leave. Alls
he's got to do his pack isis the top? Yeah, to take
his duffel bag and clean out hislocker. Well he didn't even have to
do that because the school, Imean, whoever shoe companies with will just
send him more. So just leaveit and go. You know, you
don't even have to do that.So I get the coach a player,

(01:24:14):
but we are so at him,and you're right. When I was getting
recruited, and I'm being honest aboutthis, Bill, I took my recruiting
trip to visit the Notre Dame andI felt it was such an honor to
get and I was fortunate to bea highly recruited guy. But I didn't
Notre Dame didn't offer a penny,but walking around that campus on my recruiting
trip and I'll never forget it.And on a game day, I went
to a college weekend and then wasfortunate the old Kelly Trapuka, you remember

(01:24:39):
him, the old basketball player.Kelly had Notre Dame. He was like
my host for a night and wentto a party at Notre Dame, walked
around, met people and just theatmosphere walking on campus. You wouldn't have
had to pay me to go there. I chose USC because that was,
you know, in my blood forever. But man, I'm walking across and
I thought, I still to thisday think not To Dame should be able

(01:25:00):
to get whoever they want without payinga dime. It's Notre frigging Dame.
But the times have changed. NowNotre Dame's Alabama, and now George is
Alabama. And now there's always those. But in order to keep up,
can you imagine twenty five years agosomebody telling you Notre Dame it's gonna have
to pay three million dollars to geta transfer quarterback, to go get a
player. OK. Can you fathomthat? I can. I'll never forget

(01:25:21):
when Notre Dame walked on my campusthe very first time my high school,
the head coach, and I'm like, he could. They came and got
me out of class and I wentand met it, and I'm like at
seventeen at the time, and I'mlike, I can't take this, regred,
this is frigging Notre Dame. Right. I lived there. I lived
there twenty I would live twenty fiveminutes from Notre Dame. My entire night

(01:25:42):
were moving down here five years ago, right, And you probably probably spent
a few times at the indoor HolidayInn hotel too, right there with the
pool, yeah, where we stayedthere. I spent a lot of time
there. But man, so mypoint right right, My point is that
I know times do change, butthey'd I don't have to change so drastically
where you got Notre Dame having tobeg to get a quarterback and pay them

(01:26:08):
or Nebraska. I mean, it'scrazy to me, but I know that's
the way the times are. Butthere's got to be a way bill to
regulate it to where, you know, somehow, someway where the competition That
gets back to now, if yourecruit with a full bag of a suitcase,
which you weren't ever allowed to recruitwith a suitcase. Now they get
to come today and go pluck somebodyoff and tamper even though it's not called

(01:26:30):
tampering because you're allowed to do it. I guess can you imagine that?
Do you? Now you're recruiting,isn't You're just a great recruiter that gets
people interested. Hey, I loveGeorgia, or I love Pitt or I
love Southern cal Oh I get twopoint five million as opposed to half a
million the other place. Let mego. Now, I don't blame the
kid if it's there, because youmade the likelihood of these guys playing.
The majority of players are never goingto sniff an NFL field, So I

(01:26:53):
get why to get it the money, But the fact that you just get
to transfer four times because somebody's whileyou're on scholarship and some he just offered
you more money, there's some morals, something morally wrong with that. For
me, sorry, it just isand it's not me and my high horse.
I just think that that put abuyout on the school. Make Nebraska
or Notre Dame or Southern Cali.If you want to go pluck a guy

(01:27:14):
from a roster start putting buyouts onthe kid. Oh you want that kid,
It's going to cost you a halfa million dollars for us to let
him out of scholarship. Oh,well, to the school he's going to.
You got to pay us to allowhim to transfer. Watch how quickly
that the nil and transfer portal thinggoes down. Put that into effect,
just like you did for coaches.Oh, Caleb Williams, there's an eight

(01:27:38):
million dollar buyout on him. Ifyou want him, it cost you eight
million bucks. Guess what they're notgoing to do anymore. Go pluck the
kid from another campus. Now thetransfer stuff gets real again, the fair
stuff. So Bill, thanks man, that's how you do it. You
want to do it like the coaches. Bill makes a good point. I
personally put a number on what ittakes put a buyout on every kid that

(01:27:59):
comes in the scholarship. Watch howquickly that changes. That'll change real quick
you damn right it will. KirkHerbstreet was on Pardon My Take yesterday from
the Barstool Sports Network talking about thedoomsday scenario for the college football playoffs.
What is that doomsday scenario that's nextright here? On Sports Talk seven ninety
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Talking college football. Let's get backinto these college football playoffs scenarios. Got
a doomsday situation. Kirk kurb Streetwas on Pardon My Take podcast yesterday talking

(01:30:38):
about that doomsday scenario for the committee, and this is what Kirk Kurbstreet had
to say. What is the ultimatedoomsday scenario? If Alabama wins and Michigan
wins, and Oregon or Washington wins, in Florida State wins, and Texas
wins, and all those things arenot like pie and this guy like that,
those things are probably pretty practical everythingelse. I just said, Yeah,

(01:31:00):
what the hell do you do?Michigan is a lock pack? Twelve?
Is a lock pack twelve should besitting there with one loss? Yeah,
yeah, you're right, you're right. So pack twelve maybe a question
mark Florida State. I would assumeFlorida State would be a lock So then
we got two spots, and yougot Texas, who beat Alabama sitting there
as big pack, big twelve champs, and Alabama just beat Georgia. It's

(01:31:26):
a problem, really hard not toput Texas in. Yeah, does Texas
has win over Alabama get better becauseAlabama then beat Georgia. Yeah, I
would think I mean, you couldmake it the argument was the best win
of the season. So that's aninteresting part about this whole thing, because
you and I discussed this yesterday thatif Alabama beats Georgia, that's gonna uh
what's it called, not promote polevault enhanced enhance them into the final four.

(01:31:53):
But yet, like here's the part, I don't get what their conversation
they're having. They got the roadmuch more difficult if Texas wins and Georgia
wins. Alls they need. Allthey need is for Louisville, which I

(01:32:15):
got news for you. Louisville's gonnahave an easier chance to beat Florida State
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Jets. Talking college football, let'sget back into these college football playoffs scenarios.
Got a doomsday situation. Kirk Kurbstreetwas on parton My Take podcast yesterday
talking about that doomsday scenario for thecommittee, and this is what Kirk Kurbstreet
had to say. What is theultimate doomsday scenario? If Alabama wins and

(01:33:51):
Michigan wins, and Oregon or Washingtonwins, in Florida State wins and Texas
wins and all those things are notlike pie in the sky like that.
Those things are probably pretty practical everythingelse. I just said, Yeah,
what the hell do you do?Michigan is a lock pack? Twelve?
Is a lock pack? Twelve?Should be lens sitting there with one loss?

(01:34:12):
Yeah, yeah, you're right,you're right. So pack twelve,
maybe a question mark Florida State.I would assume Florida State would be a
lock. So then we've got twospots, and you got Texas, who
beat Alabama, sitting there as bigpack, big twelve champs, and Alabama
just beat Georgia. It's a problem, really hard not to put Texas in.
Yeah, does Texas has win overAlabama get better because Alabama then beat

(01:34:35):
Georgia. Yeah, I would think, I mean, you could make it
the argument was the best win ofthe season. So that's an interesting part
about this whole thing because you andI discussed this yesterday that if Alabama beats
Georgia, that's gonna what's it callednot promote pole vault enhanced enhance them into
the final four. But yet,like, here's the part I don't get

(01:35:00):
with their conversation they're having. Theygot the road much more difficult if Texas
wins and Georgia wins. Alls theyneed. All they need is for Louisville,
which I got news for you.Louisville's gonna have an easier chance to

(01:35:20):
beat Florida State than Alabama is tobeat Georgia. Could both work for Texas.
Yeah, I like the path betterof Georgia winning because if Georgia loses,
now, now you've got two teamsto deal with. Alabama's going.
They're one loss doesn't come into playlike as the fourth or fifth team.

(01:35:44):
They're going as the SEC champion.Just beat the number one team in the
country, and I don't care thattheir ranked seventh or where they are right
now. They're gonna go. You'renot. Can you imagine the committe saying,
sorry, Nick, SEC champion,beat the number one team in America
and you're not going. They're going. And now Georgia comes into play because

(01:36:08):
if you ask, I'm not rulingGeorgia out if they get beat by Alabama,
because there's plenty of other one lossteams in there. And I got
news for you. Georgiauld be favoredover every one loss team that is going
to the Final four or below them. And when Peter say, well does
it, yeah, beaten Alabama mattersto Texas. I think it should matter

(01:36:28):
immensely. I take September just asserious as I do December. The problem
is the committee didn't last week,So now all of a sudden, if
Alabama beat Georgia, they didn't reallyhave a quarterback in week three, Millrows
improved. Now we're in this championship. So if Alabama beats Georgia, now
you're gonna tell me, don't youalready know after ten weeks that Alabama is

(01:36:49):
a good team. They were agood team in week two, Texas was
just better. What it's blasphemous thatsomebody could come in and beat Alabama and
tesc lose. To screw you,Texas went in and put their cowboy boot
right in their ass. But thecommittee told you on Tuesday they don't value
that win that much because look atall the teams ahead of Texas one lost

(01:37:11):
teams as well, That includes Oregonand Ohio State. So I'm still trying
to I would think, yes,did if Alabama beach Georgia, the Alabama
win bodes even bigger for Texas.It should, But why didn't vote bigger
for Texas last week? That's myquestion. So all of a sudden,
we're going to now have it's goingto be retroactive. Oh that's right,

(01:37:35):
Texas beat Alabama. Alabama must begood. Did you not think they were
there a top four team in thecountry when the season started? I see
that thinking for me by the committee. I don't get so. Now see
I had to flip that conversation.Now I'm gonna get HERB Street on,
he'll talk about it with us.I would have said, yeah, you'd
think Alabama beating Georgia helps Texas.But I but if Georgia beats Texas,

(01:38:01):
I mean, if Georgia beats Alabama, you've now eliminated Alabama from the mix.
Alabama beats Georgia, both teams arein play. I'm just telling you
they are because Georgia would kick FloridaState's ass in a game, in a
Final four game. I'm sorry,Florida State without your quarterback. Georgia's curb
stopping you as good as they are, and they may damn well be undefeated
after this week. Pac twelve guyis going Oregon or Washington. If you

(01:38:26):
beat the number three team, youdeserve to go Oregon, and if Washington
stays undefeed, they're in Michigan's alreadyin. That comes down to three or
four teams? What would you ratherhave? Three teams are four? Three?
Three? Right? The less againstthree guys than four less teams better
chances of getting in. Who's thefavorite in the Georgia game. Georgia,
you expect them to win. Correctwho's the favorite in the Louisville, Florida

(01:38:48):
State Florida State by the sage,but there is there will be nobody in
the country shocked if Louisville beats FloridaState by a touchdown. You know what,
the country will be shocked. IfAlabama goes and beach Georgia, they
will be shocked. So if you'reTexas, If you are Texas and you
win and Georgia wins, which thereis a likely sid scenario, why you're

(01:39:17):
right down Louisville to be Florida State. But if Alabama wins, Alabama,
Michigan packed twelve are in. Nowyou're dealing with a possible undefeated Florida State
team and a one. If you'reputting one loss Oregon in and one loss
Texas in, the number one teamin the country for the last three years,
is going to get a heavy look. I would rather Georgia do your

(01:39:40):
thing. Louisville, please go takecare of your business and win. That's
what I do. Bolls should favorTexas, but I'm not to say I
don't trust the committee that if Georgialoses that they're out, don't. I
would put Georgia hehead at Florida Stateeven at thirteen and zero, and quite
frankly, you're probably gonna put Georgia. See the problem is now you want

(01:40:04):
to deal with Georgia and Texas.If Alabama beat Georgia. Now you're telling
me that you're gonna put Texas inbecause they beat Alabama and Alabama beat Georgia.
But yet you didn't lend that credencethis past Tuesday and loan any credence
to They didn't even jump above Oregon. They didn't jump above Ohio State.
That's what I don't get. Sowhy all of a sudden we think they're
gonna give him more credence ten weekslater. I didn't this Tuesday, and

(01:40:27):
they should. Ohio State has zerobusiness right now being ahead of Texas,
yet they are, so that tellsyou they diminished and shrunk. Texas has
went over Alabama. I don't wantthat risk. Georgia go win. Louisville's
gonna beat Florida State, then Texasis in without there will be no fanfare.
It's done because Ohio State didn't evenmake it to the Big twelve champ

(01:40:48):
a Big ten championship. They're they'renot gonna sit it for if Texas wins.
It's between Texas and Ohio State.There is no decision. One won
their conference championship, the other didn'tmake it to their conference championship. Georgia
go beat Alabama, Florida State getsbeat by Louisville. Texas is in.
You're I'm not guaranteed Texas is inif they beat Oklahoma State and Georgia loses,

(01:41:12):
because that's Michigan the winner of thePac twelve Alabama. You want to
take that chance if your Texas,who's the committee choosing one lost Texas tea
or one lost Texas champion beat OklahomaState or Georgia that's run the gamut for
three straight years and lost one gameto what may be the hottest team in
America. Yeah, give me aGeorgia win and let Texas win all all
put my stakes on Louisville and brombeating Florida State with a backup quarterback.

(01:41:36):
Yeah, and it comes down tothe best four teams getting into this college
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i'ma into ALBC, It's kind ofhow I've been at Snoopyan Welcome back to
the Shawn Sallesbury Show here on SportsTalk seven ninety, Sean Bryn a Triple
Lee rocketsons of the Nuggets, Titushourd out for the Aaron Rodgers returning to
practice for the Jets, talking aboutthis college football playoff rankings and the final
four big weekend of conference Championship games, first one tomorrow Oregon at Washington,

(01:44:13):
Oregon and Washington out in Las Vegas, and then obviously the rest of those
games. On Saturday, Shawn,you asked about that Florida State in Louisville
game. Florida State favor by twoand a half, simple field goal.
Man, if I'm a gambler,I'm putting my money on. If I'm
bundling, parlaying, just straight upwins, it's not a game. I'm

(01:44:35):
talking about the straight wins. Giveme Georgia and Louisville, and then I'll
deal with it. If I'm Universityof Texas when it comes to the final
four as opposed, and that Texascan beat Oklahoma State more though than I
need Texas to win, Florida Statewins and Alabama beach Georgia, I'll take
my chance with the Louisville over FloridaState upset for ut because if that happens,

(01:44:58):
if Georgia wins, Texas win,the Michigan takes care of Iowa,
and whoever wins the PAC twelve,the winner of the PAC twelve's in Michigan's
in Texas would be in with aGeorgia win and a Florida State loss.
There's your four Texas, Georgia,Michigan, and whoever wins the Washington Oregon
game. If Alabama wins, Alabama'sin pack, twelve's in big tens in.

(01:45:24):
Now you've got to deal with theFlorida State possible undefeated or loss,
Texas possible loss, but a twelveand one record, and now you're gonna
have to deal with Georgia one.All right, let me ask you this
in truth, I want you todig deep downs. No, we're not
dogging anybody. Okay, who's thebest team in a three way who's gonna
win overwhelming money on him? Andwho's gonna win a three r round robin

(01:45:46):
between Texas, Georgia, and FloridaState and they all got to play each
other. Georgia, say it louder, it's Georgia. Yes, So the
people in the back in here,and they'll be favored by minimum of a
touchdown over Texas and minimum of doubledigits over Florida State. Not saying that
Texas can't beat them in Texas havea better I chance to beat them in

(01:46:08):
Florida State. But if you're thecommittee and you want the going by kirk
kirk Street's thought process of the fourbest. YEP, so that's the audio
that we're getting ready to play,and you can't keep out an SEC.
You can, but you're not goingto keep Alabama out. So then they've
beaten right. There is there adouble standard, you damn right, there

(01:46:28):
is. And they're going to getthe SEC more love over beating Georgia than
Texas is going to get for beatingAlabama in September. So that, yes,
that goes. What's the point ofscheduling games like that? If they're
going to continue to do this,I wouldn't schedule all do what Michigan did
this year. Play nobody until youget to Ohio State, oh Penn State,
in Ohio State. That's it,and go take care of your business.
And they did, and now don'tmiss it. You know, at

(01:46:51):
the beginning of the year, Ithink I put Michigan one in the kind
of when we start, I thought, I said, I'll take Michigan at
for I think Michigan's great. Butthey've even with all the nonsense, they've
been able to gut it out andstill got themselves in a position to win
the whole thing. But yes,there's of course there's double standard. But
do you really think Alabama, ifthey beat Georgia is missing out me personally,

(01:47:12):
from the committee standpoint, No,I don't. From your standpoint.
Oh from my standpoint, when Alabamabeat Georgia, should they not go?
Should they? Should they not?Should they? Should they be? With
my sentiment, the way that Isee it is when it comes to these
college football playoffs, if you canget the best four teams into that playoff,
that's how it should be. AndI think Alabama, the way that
they have played lately is one ofthe best four teams. But I also

(01:47:33):
think that their case by they hadto come back and beat Auburn in a
in a rivalry game. Right areyou leaving? If you if you and
I are on the committee and you'regonna look at me and tell me Alabama
just beat Georgia, you leaving themout SEC champion, I'd be really hard
to leave. I'm just asking youhave a vote. We don't have time
to wait. You give our voteto do yes or no, leave them

(01:47:54):
out or in? You tell meI would have them in. Okay,
So there's one Michigan's in with awin, right, Yeah, you're taking
Washington or Oregon winner in right there. If Washington's undefeated there and getting through
the PAC twelve, that's one ofthe best. So this is where my
argument could come in. If Washingtonloses in Oregon and Texas is a Big
twelve champ, I would put Texasin above Oregon. Okay, great,

(01:48:15):
would you put what if Florida Statewins and they're thirteen and oh, Florida
State's out for me, They're outfor me? Okay, then you would
have the PAC twelve and and toBig twelve. Right, yes, so
Florida right, so there's the oddone out. Sorry, yes, that's
my point. But under your scenarioin Alabama winning, well, then Georgia's
got to be out there. ButGeorgia is not. No, but they're
not saying they're not going to beout who's a better representative Florida State at

(01:48:36):
thirteen and zero or Georgia Georgia GeorgiaFlorida State for me out completely Sorry.
I don't care if you're undefeated meand you're the ACC champ see to me,
even if Florida State beats Louisville,if Texas wins and Georgia win,
I mean if Texas wins and Georgiawin. In Florida State wins, I'm

(01:48:58):
taking Texas over Florida State. I'mwith you, they're a better team if
Florida State's out for me. LikeI said, now, if you were
on the third quarterback, I wouldgo up to Then it's an argument if
if Quinn yours wasn't playing, andyou got the argument. But you got
to take the four best teams.And the truth of the matter is,
if Georgia loses, they're still oneof the four best teams. And I'm
convinced that the Committee's not going torun them out. Now, I could

(01:49:19):
be way wrong. They get curbstomped. Different story. But why didn't
you give Texas love last Tuesday whenthis happened, and now all of a
sudden you're going to give them love. If Alabama beached Georgia, you should
have already given them love. Itmattered in September, it matters now.
The bottom line is Georgia wins andFlorida State loses Texas Texas will be in

(01:49:39):
if they win. Of all thosewe just mentioned, it should be Texas
the winner of the PAC twelve,the Big Ten, and the SEC champion,
which would be Georgia. But youwant to open up the can of
worms and let the committee look atthe University of Georgia. If Alabama beats
them by a field goal, ifyou're Florida State in Texas and you're the
last one trying to get in,you do not want it coming down to

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YouTube versus Georgia. No, no, because you're gonna lose. Now.
What should be the saving grace isthat Texas did beat Alabama. But if
you held that in high regard asa committee, why is Ohio State and
Oregon ahead of Texas this past Tuesday? So that brings me right bright,
yeah, right back to these rankingsand Ohio State should Ohio State should be
the number eighteen right now. AndOregon's win over Washington is going to be

(01:50:25):
much more important. And see here'sthe argument. Who is number three in
the country Washington, right, Washingtonnumber three? Where was Alabama ranked when
Texas beat them? They are numberthree? So recency biased? Where do
you think the committee's going to holdit more? They're gonna hold the They're
gonna hold the win over Washington bigor late for Oregon than they are the

(01:50:48):
win over Alabama. Early September,which is hogwash, but they're going to
I would see if I was onthat committe, I'd be pound the table.
I'd be presentingly saying, how canyou say this now? The argument
is, well, you gotta havea conference champion. You know, Florida
kicks Florida. I mean, Georgiakicks Florida State's ass if they play.
I think every team Georgia, Michigan, Washington, Oregon, Ohio State,

(01:51:10):
Texas, Alabama, I think theyall kick the you know what out of
Florida State. Of the eight,I would think that every single one of
those teams will be voted, wouldbe favored over they was. I saw
a statistic last night that every theteams I just named one through eight take
Florida State out. So seven teamswould all be favorites over Florida State if
they played today, bye by morethan like five points, just validating what

(01:51:33):
we said. Yes, and Icouldn't agree more this. This whole this
committee thing goes back to these rankingsare released Tuesday night, just kind of
kind of maddening. What did Kirkkirb Street say about doing the right thing
when trying to get these final fourteams into the college football playoffs. Also
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(01:53:43):
shun talking college football playoffs. Youknow the sounds very show, Sean,

(01:54:19):
Bryan and Tripley. Let's get outto the phone line seven five seven ninety
in order of longest we let's startwith Jay. What's up? Jake?
Hey, how y'all doing fellas justreal quick. We're trying not to be
long winning. But I feel everythingy'all saying everybody's saying about Florida State.
The only thing I don't like,but by speaking about how they talk it

(01:54:41):
down on Florida State, is theydid everything they did. They did everything
required to be in that beat inthe college football playoffs, even if you
know they get beat down or whatever. Because last year, it's like TCU
said a precedent for how people thinkabout the college for uh, how this
playoff is supposed to go. Youknow, they beat Bitchkin and then they
got their till with by Georgia.So people don't want to see that.

(01:55:04):
They have the biased reaction or ohwe don't want to see if face this
or that. But TCU earned TCUearned the right, I would say,
to get beat down by Georgia andthey beat Don't forget TCU also lost in
the Big Twelve championship game. Iagree with that. I agree with that,
but like and still went. Theyearned it. I get it,

(01:55:27):
but they still went. That's thepoint. Yeah, yeah, So that's
the only thing I don't lie.I honestly think everything's gonna take care of
itself. It seems like all italways does when it gets down to the
final weeks of the college football season. And so I think UT is going
to win one things for sure,somebody's gonna be left out, somebody's going
to be frustrated, somebody go getscrewed. If either Florida State of Texas

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one of the two, it's gonnaget screwed. Jay, As we said
today, who's the best four teamsin the country? Forget who that,
I want to know from the eyetest. Who do you think the four
best teams in the country. Idon't care what conference. If you're picking
for today to represent the four bestin your mind for best teams, who
are they? Yeah, I meanit'll be Georgia, It'll be Oregon,

(01:56:14):
It'll be michiginn and it'll be Texas. There you go. Now, in
my opinion, if Alabama beats Georgiathirty four to thirty one, are you
still telling me you think Georgia you'retelling me you think George is not one
of the four best. Would befavored against every team if they played him
again? Absolutelyst I mean I'll definitelywant to see them go back and go

(01:56:36):
for the three team if they ifthey lose to Alabama and a good one,
should Georgia still be in the finalfour? I think so, But
I don't think Alabama should be ina file for if they win, because
Texas should get it over there.So you think that if Alabama beats the
number one ranked team in the countryfor three straight years that they should be

(01:56:58):
they should miss out? That theyshould? Why can't both go? I
mean, I understand what you're saying, but I'm saying if the predicament is
that Florida State gets left out becauseof that, Like I said, I
don't look at it as who Ithink is the fourth best seas. I
look at it at I mean,that's what we want. But the way

(01:57:20):
the system is set up, who'suh? I mean, who did what
they were supposed to do to getto the point of being in that conversation
for the college football playoffs? SoI think this, ye, So I
think Florida State for that reason only. I mean, like I said,
like they're not one of the fourthfirst programs. But if they go undefeated
in the power of fire comforts andthey already up there at number three or

(01:57:45):
number four, and they complete thetask of winning a division or championship or
whatever, then I think they aren'tthe right to get in there and get
they feared Georgia, Florida State,Washington or Oregon and Michigan. If they
all take care of their business,then by by that standard, Texas is
out. Correct. Yeah, unfortunately, and I love Texas, but I

(01:58:05):
think Texas is out fair enough.Great stuff, Jay, Thanks, thank
you, Javis. Let's go touh, well, we've got to Randy's
on hold. Think about the committeeand think about what you'd do. The
committee is going to think a littlebit different. There, you do.
They already proved that last Tuesday,right, Yeah, they sure did.
Let's get to uh, let's trythis, Randy, Randy, good morning,

(01:58:26):
good morning. What's happening? What'son your you guys doing? Okay,
got a quick scenario for you guys. All right, Uh, Louisville
beats Florida State, those two teamsare out, Oregon beats Washington. Oregon's
in. There's number one. Texaswins, they're in. There's spot number
two. Alabama beats Georgia. They'rein. Alabama is in. That comes

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down to what is the committee goingto choose between Georgia. Well, here's
the other one. Iowa, bysome quirk of fate, beats Michigan.
Okay, one maybe if fact uh, that leaves the committee saying, do

(01:59:15):
we pick Georgia or Michigan. Mhmfor that final spot. You're taking Georgia
because the committee is going to comeinto play. Oh, some of those
games you may have cheated. Watchyou watch, and Iowa's not going if
Georgia and Michigan. There if Georgiaand Michigan both have one loss in close

(01:59:38):
games, especially the fact that Georgiagets Michigan gets beat by Iowa that's already
got a couple of losses and theycan't score even if they're standing in the
end zone, there's a Michigan's got, Michigan's done. Michigan loses this game
to Iowa, and Georgia lose andGeorgia has a loss, and we're fighting
between one of those for a fora spot. It's a. It's a.

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That's the easiest choice on the planet. Georgia gets that call over Michigan
all day and twice on Sunday.I agree, YEA, thank you guys,
thank you Randy. Let's get toanother Randy to baby, what's up
Randy? Hey, guys, greatshow, a couple of things recently biased.

(02:00:25):
If it hadn't been for a coupleof couple of questionable calls in the
U of H game, U ofH might have pulled that out against Texas.
Uh TCU also pretty much stomped Texasin the second half and almost beat
Texas in the second half. OklahomaState beats Oklahoma after Oklahoma had beat Texas,

(02:00:46):
And so anyone that sleeps on OklahomaState and Mike Gundy agreed, is
doing so at their risk. Allthese assumptions that everybody's making, all these
playoff scenarios that everyone's made, isthat Texas is going to beat Oklahoma State.
You sleep on Mike Gundy in aChampionship Series game. He's gone out

(02:01:09):
there in years past and beat Oklahomawhen Oklahoma was dead to rights, far
better than them. And I'm notan Oklahoma States fan. That's some of
the ugliest orange I've ever seen inmy life is Oklahoma State. But anybody
that sleeps on Oklahoma State and MikeGundy this weekend does so at their own
risk. You are gentleman and solidis he is one hundred percent correct.

(02:01:30):
Just got voted Coach the Year inthe Big Twelve, and we talked about
it, mentioned it yesterday. Isaid, if you decide you're worried about
everybody else's business and you decide notto take care of your own, Oklahoma
State will beat him. And onething, with all this love we're giving
Texas and rightfully so, we keeptalking about Alabama's the win against Alabama.
They've had some unimpressive victories as wellthat they have. The University of Houston

(02:01:55):
was not an impressive winning bad team, so and you've got to take that
into account. Well, yeah,but they won. Okay, I get
that. I'm on Texas society aboutgetting in do mis understanding, but we
can't just load it up with they'rea no brainer, they're the best.
They beat Alabama. Well, ifthey played today, they may not be
favored against Alabama. Probably would becausethey're the higher team. Right, But

(02:02:15):
my point is is that there aresome out there who still think Alabama is
a better team. I don't becausethey beat them and September should matter.
But we are making we alls.We're looking at as the win a couple
of these wins. If we're goingto downgrade somebody all, they beat this
team, Oh, Oregon beat ArizonaState, they struggled with them, or
they struggled against Texas Tech. Well, can't you make the argument that struggling

(02:02:41):
against the University of Houston it wasa bit far fish. Everybody has those
struggles. My point is the goodwith the bad. They won the game.
I'm about winning. If that's thecase, then you got to score
seventy every week. Then we'll justrun it up and then people be pisty
you we're running up to score,right, so you can't win for losing.
I'm just telling you, Oklahoma State'snot gonna sit back and let Texas

(02:03:01):
waltz in there and do nothing andbeat them. Yeah, there's no question
Mike Gundy has that ability with hisprogram. Cannot sleep on Oklahoma State.
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blooming Hey, it's Jeff Blum.You've got more. Sean Salisbury to pick
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Thursday on The Seawan Salisbury Show,Sean Brin tripley Rockets lose to the Nuggets.
Titus Howard out for the season forthe Texans. Juice Scruggs and to
make his NFL debut on the offensiveline. Aaron Rodgers returning to practice for
the Jets. Talking about this collegefootball playoff ranking system and the committee and
all the big checkampionship games this weekend, Kirk Curvestreet talked about doing the right

(02:05:04):
thing, or not always doing theright thing when it comes to the committee
and who should be in these finalfour spots. And this is what Kirkurvestree
had to say. So as aguy who calls these games, I don't
want to do the right thing.If you talk to Bill Hancock, and
we had lots of meetings about this, They're not supposed to do the right
thing. They're supposed to Their jobis to put the best four teams in

(02:05:30):
the playoff. Now, again it'ssubjective. Who you think and I think
are the best four are different andthat's fine, but that's what that group
is supposed to do, not whatdo we think about ratings. That's put
the best four teams in the game. So Kirk curvestreeed pretty emphetic. There
was an f bomb in there.Nice job to Manuel bleeping that out for

(02:05:51):
us, But yeah, he's prettya solid f ball And it is we've
here the unedited it's good. It'slike a good solid f PO. Yeah,
he says, that's bs the fand best four teams in. He's
been pretty gung ho on this.I watched him on that College Football Playoff
ranking show on Tuesday and he saidessentially the same thing. Obviously, the
FCC standards correct, but he's very, very very adamant about getting the top

(02:06:16):
four teams, the best four teamsinto this college football Playoff, and when
it comes down to it, We'vetalked about it. I'm going to reiterate
it again. Sean Florida State,in my opinion, has no business being
in the top four. Even ifthey are the ACC Championship undefeated, they
are not one of the top fourteams. I think every single one Georgia,
Michigan, Washington, Oregon, OhioState, Texas, Alabama, I

(02:06:39):
think they all beat the breaks offof Florida State right now. Oh I
don't like no questions asked, andif hell, I would think Missouri at
numb nine will probably beat them.I'm assuming that across this country. I
mean in Tallahassee they think different.But Kirk Kirk Street trite, I'm really
well, we all like a feelgood story. H the feel good story

(02:07:00):
is not the important part here whenit comes to these four teams, because
the same as you have a fieldgood story, then Ohio State's going to
jump up and argue, right,even though they don't have an argument.
The will of the eight teams youjust listed, Florida State would be ran.
Florida State would be the last teamI'd choose to win a national title

(02:07:20):
or to roll through the playoffs.Now that's probably unfair because they've had a
hell of a season. Maybe wejust don't give them the credit they deserve
because of you know, Mike Norvelturned it around last year that maybe we
don't consider them Bobby Bowden's Florida Stateor Jimbo Fisher's Florida State team yet.
But Mike Norvell's not a hell ofa jay. You could give his his

(02:07:41):
last two years thumbs up for oneof the five best jobs of coaching.
What he's done in the country,considering the expectations, because in truth,
everybody knows George Alabama that consider thinkabout what he's done, well, he's
had more success than Notre Dames thathas the last two years. Am I
right? Yeah? More success thanClemson. Yes, so they deserve a

(02:08:01):
lot of credit. But you gotto take a big picture into account.
Is it hard for me to saythat if Florida State wins at thirteen and
oh, and let's say Oregon wins, Oregon and Texas both with one loss,
even though it's a conference people maythink are bigger better? Should I
say, it'd be very hard.I think for the committee to put both

(02:08:24):
Texas and Oregon ahead of Florida Stateat thirteen and oher in conference champions I
do. But the right thing isI think Oregon beach Florida State by two
touchdowns. I think Texas beats them. But when I say the right thing,
the right thing just puts four bestin. The question is as subjective
as it is. How many peopleare in that committee room? Thirteen?

(02:08:48):
Is it thirteen of them? Letme see that sitting in that room,
and they're going to have thirteen differentways to go about it. I just
to me, Georgia, if theylose, is still a top four team
in the country. I don't knowif it's going to get them in or
not, because somebody else may happen. As you know, the majority of
them may say no, you can'tdo it. But even if Georgia loses

(02:09:09):
and Florida State wins, I'd takeGeorgia every single day in that game.
There is But then how do westart rewarding people for earning it? Yet,
if you're a conference sho if allof them win their conference, one
school is getting left out, andthat would be Florida State. There is
thirteam members there, you go,yeah, this is the task. Now,
Jay was right. It usually somehow, some way, you wake up

(02:09:31):
on a day and you're like,it actually worked out. This team lost,
that team win. It was easyto go. Georgia wins, Florida
State loses, Texas wins, Washingtonwins, Michigan wins. Okay, there's
your four teams. See. Thepart of it is you you like the
chaos of it. But the truthis you don't want the chaos. You
don't want the chaos, No,you don't, but you like it.

(02:09:52):
You like the thought of could youimagine disrupting this to the point where Georgia
and Alabama both missed out. Alabamawins ugly Georgia and play well, they
leave the SEC champion out and theylet Georgia go, and it's Michigan and
Oregon or Washington and Texas and FloridaState. Oh, by the way,
Florida State lost too, so OhioState's packed in, right, you're right?

(02:10:13):
Can you imagine? Yeah? Iwould love that. Actually I would
want it, but I would lovethe chaos of it. Oh, by
the way, Michigan lost nine tothree to Iowa. That'd be something.
And Iowa would love an argument.They don't have one, No, they
don't yet. As a conference championof the Big tid you have one,
but you don't have one. Seemy point? Well, I think that
chaos sounds fun, But guess whatyou don't want. You don't want.

(02:10:35):
You don't want that because then you'relike, we're not getting the four best
teams. Right. I've enjoyed thechaos over the last couple of days and
how we talk about it. Andif Texas like this, yes, and
if Texas is not creat fodder,yeah, if Texas is not going to
give us, I mean, ifthe Committee's not going to give Texas the
rightful respect they deserve for that Septemberwin, which they have not, or

(02:10:56):
it would not look like this.On Tuesday, when they went with the
committee's pick to the top four,top six, top eight. But I
can tell you this, if that'sthe case and you're a team and that
you're not going to get respect forSeptember wins, I wouldn't schedule a tough
game in September, right, Yeah? Why what's the point there? Is?
What is the point? Schedule acouple of tough ones at the end,
take care of your business, winyour conference championship, and let's go

(02:11:16):
like, why would you if you'regonna get the same respect you got from
Texas beating Alabama as you would ifTexas would have beat Tennessee Chattanooga scheduled Tennessee
Chattanooga. I mean, you seemy point. Look at Michigan's schedule.
This is this is it's it's it'sa joke, and we're holding and they
got in trouble into their head coachsuspended, and we're still putting them on
a pedestal all no doubt. Yeah, East Carolina, UNLV Bowling, Green,

(02:11:41):
Rutgers, Nebraska, Minnesota, Indiana, Michigan State, Perdue, finally
a ranked team at Penn State,then Maryland, then Ohio State, and
now they're gonna be playing in Iowa. What a joke? Of a schedule
and Iowa. Iowa's good. Butthe problem is IWA the fifty yard line
and probably won't really wan'ts crazy.Their their offense is a truss. Jerry

(02:12:03):
Palm, John I know you youknow. Jerry Palm well big on the
on the college football and college basketballthing. He put together an interesting article
on CBS Sports and he talks aboutthe paths for the eight contenders that are
still in the hunt for this fourteam failed. He had some things to
say about that Texas and Alabama matchupand why those big time matchups early in

(02:12:26):
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app and tune in for this finalhour. Sean Bryan and Triple he Titus
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(02:14:41):
for CBS Sports, heavily involved inthe college football scene, and you talked
about pass for the eight contenders stillin the hunt for this final four team
playoff system. We've got obviously thelast year that it's going to extend to
twelve teams. Let's start with Alabama. The Crimson Tide need to win and

(02:15:05):
move up four spots in the rankings. Beating Georgia would take care of three
spots. Alabama would go past theBulldogs, the Pac twelve loser and Ohio
State a loss, then by Texas, Florida State or Michigan would be required
to get the Tide to number four. Okay, so let's look at number
seven ranked Texas. Like Oregon,it's win or go home, but Texas

(02:15:26):
still needs help. The Longhorns havethe advantage of a head to head road
win over Alabama, the best winany team has this season. Beating Oklahoma
State in the Big Twelve title gameshould jump Texas ahead of Ohio State and
the loser of the Pack twelve titlegame. Then a loss by Georgia,
Michigan or Florida State should move Texasto fourth. So Jerry Palm saying that

(02:15:50):
if Alabama beats Georgia and Texas takescare of its business, they'll get in.
I agreed. But the point JerryPalm is making is nobody I have
not heard anybody talk about this yetbut US Now, maybe they are not
saying. I mean, it's it'suh. But what did the committee do

(02:16:13):
on Tuesday that tells you? DoI believe they're gonna jump ahead of Ohio
State? They already should be aheadof a high state with of course they
are. Ohio State is not aconfence championship. They got beat. There's
only one way Ohio State's in Texasand Florida State. If Texas and Florida
State and uh Alabama, Texas andFlorida State lose. If Texas and Florida

(02:16:37):
State both lose and Oregon beats Washington, Oregon's going, Michigan's going, Georgia's
going. There is a legitimate chance, then do you take Ohio State?
But would you take them over Washingtongetting beat one lost Washington against the and
they're played in a conference championship.That's the argument you asked. Another argument

(02:17:01):
that's right, see what I'm saying. But the thing is, we keep
saying that people can in the logicthat I would think about with Jerry Palm
and with a biscuit, there's nodoubt the logic should say we've been talking
about this for two weeks that thewin in September was huge and the best
win of the final eight teams thisyear. Now are they taking into account

(02:17:22):
some of the eye tests they've seenagainst other teams? Probably for Texas,
But everybody goes out, we whycan't we say that about Alabama? They
struggled against an Auburn team that's beenup and down with Hugh Freeze this year,
Right, they'll get better. Butyou get my point, right,
So I just I want you tocontinue with this scenario. But for me,
it's just validating what we said.If the committee held the Alabama win

(02:17:46):
in high regard, especially after TexasTech just got boat raced by UT if
that wins as important as I thinkit is in September, I just so
did my win or loss when Iplayed with USC or the Vikings in septemb
count as much as the win inNovember. Yes was in the left hand
column. Right, Look a lookat the Texans when they lose to Carolina,

(02:18:07):
that could very well keep them outof the playoffs. It matter,
nobody's gonna come and so's still theworst one out? Yeah, or your
best. Here's where the curve starts. You'll get a mulligan. So my
point is if they hold them wherewe think I'm trying to still trying to
figure out, then how is ifyou didn't hold the Alabama victory, I

(02:18:30):
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(02:19:43):
Aaron Rodgers returns to practice for theJets. Rockets lows to the Nuggets.
Jerry Palm rights for CBS Sports,heavily involved in the college football scene,
and they talked about past for theeight contenders still in the hunt for this
final four team playoff system. We'vegot obviously the last year that it's going

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to extend to twelve teams. Let'sstart with Alabama. The Crimson Tide need
to win and move up four spots. In the rankings. Beating Georgia would
take care of three spots. Alabamawould go past the Bulldogs, the Pac
twelve loser, and Ohio State.A loss then by Texas, Florida State,

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or Michigan would be required to getthe tide to number four. Okay,
so let's look at number seven rankedTexas. Like Oregon, it's winner
go home, but Texas still needshelp. The Longhorns have the advantage of
a head to head road win overAlabama, the best win any team has
this season. Beating Oklahoma State inthe Big Twelve title game should jump Texas

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ahead of Ohio State and the loserof the Pack twelve title game. Then
a loss by Georgia, Michigan orFlorida State should move Texas to fourth.
So Jerry Palm saying that if Alabamabeats Georgia and Texas takes care of its
business, they'll get in. Iagreed. But the point Jerry Palm is

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making is nobody I have not heardanybody talk about this yet but US Now,
maybe they are not saying. Imean, it's it's uh, but
what did the committee do on Tuesdaythat tells you do? I believe they're
gonna jump ahead of Ohio State.They already should be ahead of ah High
State with of course they are.Ohio State is not a conference championship.

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They got beat. There's only oneway Ohio State's in Texas and Florida State.
If Texas and Florida State and uhAlabama, Texas and Florida State lose.
If Texas and Florida State both loseand Oregon beats Washington, Oregon's going,

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Michigan's going, Georgia's going. Thereis a legitimate chance. Then do
you take Ohio State? But wouldyou take them over Washington? Getting beat
one lost Washington against they played ina conference championship. That's the argument.
You got to ask another argument.That's right, see what I'm saying.
But the thing is we keep sayingthat people can in the logic that I

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would think about with Jerry Palm andwith Biscuit, there's no doubt the logic
should say, we've been talking aboutthis for two weeks, that the win
in September was huge and the bestwin of the final eight teams this year.
Now are they taking into account someof the eye tests they've seen against
other teams? Probably for Texas buteverybody goes out, we why can't we

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say that about Alabama? They struggledagainst an Auburn team that's been up and
down with Hugh Freeze this year.Right, they'll get better. But you
get my point, right, SoI just I want you to continue with
this scenario. But for me,it's just validating what we said. If
the committee held the Alabama win inhigh regard, especially after Texas just got

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boat raced by ut if that winsas important as I think it is in
September, I just so did mywin or loss when I played with USC
or the Vikings in September count asmuch as the win in November. Yes,
was in the left hand column.Right, look at the Texas when
they lose to Carolina, that couldvery well keep them out of the playoffs.

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It mattered, nobody's gonna come.And so it's still the worst one
out or your best. Here's wherethe curve starts. You'll get them.
So my point is if they holdthem where we think I'm trying still trying
to figure out, then how isif you didn't hold the Alabama victory,
I mean, the Texas victory overAlabama important On Tuesday when this committee got

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together. So basically, you're tellingme and Jerry Palm, and I understand
why he's saying it. The logicshould be of Alabama wins. This is
even a bigger win because they beatthe number one team and you beat them
when they were number three if you'reTexas. But why didn't the committee take
this into account? On two?Why does it take Alabama to beat Georgia
for the Alabama win to be important? It was the best win going into

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this conference championship weekend, and itwas the best win all year. It
just happened to happen in September.Yeah, they still took the road you
had to travel to get there toallow them to be in this position to
be playing in the Big twelve championship. So for me, so all of
a sudden, oh you know what, let's actually take that win serious if
they beat Georgia. Why does Texasneed Alabama to beat Georgia for that win

(02:24:31):
to be taken serious? Because thecommittee isn't paying a close enough attention because
there's no way as we sit today, not saying that Oregon would go but
Texas with their schedule, even thoughthe Pac twelve's are pretty damn good gauntlet
because everybody thought a S seed bebetter, you know that whole thing,
but the and for the three quartersof the season, everyboy thought the PAC

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twelve was best conference football. SSE's diminishing the way they played in Utah
getting beat up by Oregon. Butboth have wins and losses impressive, So
remove Oregon from it. But whyis the Alabama win more important this weekend
than it was to Texas in September? It mattered then went on the road
and beat them by two touchdowns.If the committee took that win in their
regard, yeah, took it serious. Let's just call again. If they

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took it serious, then it wouldhave been reflected on Tuesday, and they
would have the University of Texas atnumber five, ahead of Oregon in Ohio
State. Because if you put Oregonin Texas together, Texas has better wins
a harder schedule than Oregon. Butyou could also say that Texas has win
over Houston isn't as impressive as Oregon'swent over Utah. You're gonna get both

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correct, so both I get that, Yes, they should definitely be ahead
of Alabama and of Ohio State.Correct for sure. And you can make
argue with Oregon, and Oregon hasan argument as well with them. I
don't care about that part of itfair. But the part I do care
about is, then, if so, they didn't hold it in high regard
on Tuesday. So why I'm justwondering why a victory in November is more

(02:25:58):
important than a victory in September,because sometimes that September loss won't get you
a chance to play in November.I don't get it. Well. And
then and then also that just cameto my mind. We talk about that
it took a last minute Hail Marytype play for Alabama to beat Auburn and
we trow but but that's how theygot past Auburn. Okay, so if

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so, that's an ugly win.But yet it's a win, and it's
all it's a rivalry game. Well, okay, why is that hold more
water than a Texas team coming intoAlabama kicking your ass? I just I
don't ever remember a coach coming tome and saying, guys, you know
we're playing we're playing Notre Dame inweek three, but it's that's not as

(02:26:41):
important as if we were playing November, a Thanksgiving weekend game against Satura day.
What I I don't understand it becauseat the time, the tur third
ranked team in the country, andthey've continued this, we should already hold
that win in the highest regard.So that's it. Once again, I
don't know. I may be theonly person in the country saying this,

(02:27:03):
but to me, the clearer oreasier path is to hope Louisville Beach,
Florida State and Georgia wins, andyou beat Texas and you beat There's no
way you can leave Texas out ifGeorge even listen, I'm not diminishing here's
my point. I am not goingto diminish Alabama's loss or heighten for Alabama.
I'm not diminishing the Texas Longhorns forbeating the number three ranked team on

(02:27:28):
the road in Tuscaloos in September.Why everybody else's is beyond me. George
is supposed to win this game.That doesn't. Now do what USC to
beat usc? USC? You getbeat by USC in September. Ooh,
that's a good loss if there issuch thing. Yeah, and then they
go lose five in a row.Now I understand why that would diminish your

(02:27:52):
thought process on somebody beat usc uscin very good. But when it's Alabama
and they've gone on and won everygame since, doesn't that tell you that
that's a valid win, regardless ofhow they do against Georgia. Regardless,
that's a valid that should be thehighest ranked win when you're making your decision
in that committee room. I can'tsymphasize it enough. What's more apt to

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happen Louisville and Alabama win, orGeorgia and Louisville win, Georgia and Louisville.
If Georgia wins in Louisville wins,Michigan beats Iowa, Michigan Georgia and
the Pac twelve winner is in.If Florida State loses, Texas is in.

(02:28:39):
I would rather stake my claim onLouisville beating Florida State with a backup
quarterback, then I would Georgia losing. Bless you losing to Alabama on basically,
what is a semi home game inAtlanta? That yeah, it's a
pretty much a home game. SoI just try it, and I know
Alabama's not far from there. Don'tmisunderstand me, but my point is is

(02:29:00):
it you're in Georgia Athens to Atlanta. It's not a three hour drive,
okay, So I just don't getto me. You should be rooting for
Georgia. Now if all of asudden Florida State boat races. I'm talking
about curb stops Louisville. When when'sthat game Louisville? And yeah, Saturday,

(02:29:20):
say night, okay? And thenthe late what's the SEC Championship at
three two thirty on CBS? Yeah, the SEC is? Why am I
not? I'll get it. I'llget it here. I think it's the
afternoon game with Danielson and Brad.Isn't that the game Georgia Alabama's at three
o'clock here? Okay? Yeah,Brad Nessler and Gary Danielson? And what

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time is a big twelve game?Noon? Eleven? Okay? So you
post your score eleven? You're Texasright beat Oklahoma State? Listen? Okay?
Are you who you're rooting for inthe Alabama Georgia game because they're fre
Texas? Yeah? Oh it's Georgia. Me too. Yeah, there's gonna
be some say please Alabama, goGeorgia. If Alabama wins and Florida State

(02:30:03):
wins, guess what that doesn't bodewell for the University of Texas. But
if Georgia wins, now you justget to stare at it that night and
say, Jeff Brown, go doyour thing. I don't. I don't
want Alabama to win, because thenyou're then people are gonna make the case
that Georgia still belongs. But that'sright, battling an extra team. And
the extra team you're battling happens tobe the back to back winner, and

(02:30:24):
the committees they get to you knowwhat, for him in like a Viagra
forum, and this team now youwant to see a chance at the three
peat. So now you're battling withthat. Is anybody talking about that?
Not that I if I'm a Texasfan, I want Georgia to kick Alabama.
I want him to beat him,even by I win that game and
then post your score with Louisville,and Louisville should be pissed because Kentucky got

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Salisbury. Yeah, we're about toplay some of the most motivational audio of

(02:33:26):
all time. For you, Sean, we are I know you're big and
motivational speaking. Yeah, is thisor where we joking about this? Do
I ever joke? No? Bringit, let's hear it all right.
So we're talking about the college footballplayoffs, right, and a lot of
teams need to win this weekend toget those championships, to get themselves in

(02:33:46):
a position to be in the finalfour. And I found the audio on
what their head coaches are going totell their players it's a big key to
the game for the conference championship thisweekend. And this is, uh,
this is this is what it's gonnasound like. I wonder everybody to look
at me. I'm a pass atthe corner, not day one day.
No, No, that's a W. Nothing you want, nothing you want

(02:34:11):
that's a man. If you wantto eat a W tonight, buddy.
And the thing that makes that pricelessis when the video was when you saw
him, how he was licking hisfingers and eating the W as James Winston

(02:34:33):
when he was with the Tampa BayBucks. Right then and there, I
had just said, let's go backin the locker room, let's regroup before
the game. Somebody come out andgive us a different speech. Worst I've
ever top five worst I've ever heard. I would I've spent so much time
wondering what the hell you're talking about? Then I would have, Yeah,

(02:34:54):
let's go eat a W. Whatthe hell did you just do? This
is Some of his teammates reactions whenhe's doing that are priceless as well.
They're like, would have been oneof mine, Yeah, let's eat that
W. I would have been lookinglike do you lick your fingers like this?
How are we eating this W?Like even though w's were appetizing,

(02:35:15):
like what or edible? Like what? What if? Somebody would have said,
Hey, who day? Isn't thatthe same? Yeah? Say who
day? Yeah? Got to eatthat W? Dude? I don't.
Wasn't he on the Saints when hetold him to eat it? Was he
intel? He was. He waswith Tampa. But they were in North
Well there you go, they weregonna eat a W. He weren't they
were? Did they eat one thatday? I don't. I don't remember,
But if they did, you knowwhy because the speech told him to

(02:35:39):
eat a W. Hmmm, whydid you do that? Why did you
ruin the segment. I didn't.I just didn't. What are you talking
about, ever, Look, thewind thrown enough interceptions. He didn't need
to throw that one. Look allI'm saying. All I'm saying is the
windshield is bigger than the rear viewmirror. Okay, yeah it is.
So what does that have to doJames Winston's speech. I'm just saying,

(02:36:01):
dude, you got to keep lookingforward. I can't even anymore. I've
had it. I've done. Youcan't even because you because of your your
I mean, your speeches are offthe charts. What was that last thing?
Uh? One of my sayings isthat you just did by The windshield
is larger for a reason than therearview mirror for a reason. Yeah.

(02:36:24):
Yeah, Sometimes you'll use the objectsare closer than they appear. Yeah,
you'll use that one. Yeah,every now and then every other. But
eat a W is your favorite?Yeah? Probably. It's motivational, man.
I mean, like when we getin here, it's what we tell
each other, like, Hey,what's that big dog? Good morning,
let's get this dub. Let's eatthat time we had some musical and you
are both dancing around eating w's.Yeah, incredible. Yeah, I mean,

(02:36:48):
I mean when I think of it, I think of Tony Robbins.
I think, what's my guy whoI see the herbs to the post of
what's my great motivational speaker Inky JohnnyJohnson, Yeah, phenomenal. I think
of that at Inky Johnson, Ithink of, uh, Tony Robbins,
I think of Jameis Winston. Yeah, though those are the ones that I
mean. I'm in a whole newlevel Jordan Belfort. Yeah, motivational speaker,

(02:37:11):
Yeah exactly. But man, whenI get to when I get to
Jamis, Yeah, and you learnhow to eat a w uh huh.
That's life changing. You brought itthough. You're welcome. Appreciate your deep
dive into eaton w's. Yeah,I know, I just have you heard
worse? There's probably worse out there, But have you heard worse? Have
me personally? Yeah, I've heardI heard some bad ones. Have you

(02:37:35):
okay in an NFL like in ahighlight thing? Have you heard anything that
made you cringe? Worth? Notnot more than that one? Then he
eat a w No, not morethan that one. Ray Lewis like emphatic
pregame speeches and things like that.I've heard some of Drew brees. Some
of Drew Brees are kind of corny, very cheesy. Oh yeah, kind
of corny, of major trying tothink of who else at times? Was

(02:37:58):
Ray was a little over over madover actor. Yeah for sure, the
Jim Carrey of pregame speech. That'sa perfect absolutely trying to think of who
else. Kirk Cousins a little cheesyat times. Cheese a little bit.
Yeah, didn't really hear anything.Just like your typical white guy. He
is basic white guy. Yeah,Iowa, it was good. Sound offense.

(02:38:22):
Uh like no one, no oneexpected us to be here on t
Percent'm gonna be okay, take aplay play by play, talk to your
teammates, be each other's brother,you have each other's backs. I'm here
for you, I'm here for you, love you three exactly. That's it.
It's probably walking away like, ohman, thank god, that's over.
That was a great speech. Youwant to talk about the most epic

(02:38:43):
basic white dude speech, just lookup Drew Breeze or that's so funny he
said Breeze because I was thinking tosay the cheese. Well, yeah,
a little bit. That's okay,eat it up before we get to break.
Did you see what he said abouthis right shoulder, how he can't
even like, can't lift to thethree. Yeah, I can't lift to
the throw anymore. Well, rememberthe last two years they couldn't push it
down the field. His accuracy wasstill uncanny. I imagine think how many

(02:39:09):
throws the arm had, how manytimes he's made a throw. There'll be
a surgery or two still to comefor him in post career, I'm sure.
Yeah, speaking of career that guyhad. Speaking of throwing and surgeries,
Smash Rows News, Lance mccullors Juniortalked about what he hopes to have
in twenty twenty four. We'll hearthat audio and discussed next on Sports Talk
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Change your loofah Sponge monthly Great andright now listen to more Sean Salisbury.
That's your job, man. Don'tyou get paid for a pro tip from
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(02:41:48):
do? Oh? All right?Headlight, I can't sleep. I've tossed
the term campbells a couple of secondsleft here on a Thursday morning on Sports
Talk seven, this is the SeanSalisbury Show, Sean Bryan and Tripoli here
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for the Texans. Aaron Rodgers returnsto practice for the Jets. Stock Astros.

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Lance cullors junior spoke to the media, talked about the potential for him
pitching in twenty twenty four and thisis what Lance mc colors junior had to
say surgery. I went into surgeryhoping that I was going to be closer
to spring training, but when Iactually had surgery, it was it was
worse than we had thought. Andyou know, MRIs, they don't They

(02:42:33):
only give you such a small picture. I mean, we rely on them
a lot as athletes and teams tokind of help guide you through the injury
process, but they really are justsuch a small snapshot of what is really
going on. And so when theywent in for the actual surgery, the
flexor tendon was off the bone insteadof you know, partially, and there
was a little more of intense surgery. I mean, same rehab per se

(02:42:54):
just can't do everything as fast asyou wanted to. So, you know,
I was dealing with that for quitesome time and looking back on it,
you know, maybe I wish Iwould have gotten surgery sooner, but
you know, surgery is always thelast option, you know, you ever
want to to rush the surgery.But rehab's gone really well. I spent
a lot of time with Louis Garcia. You know, he's doing a shreaming
well, you know, in hisprogression too, and you know, I'm

(02:43:18):
I'm I can't wait put a dateon ituse I don't want to say something
where I would be wrong. Butyou know, when I came out of
surgery, they definitely were saying,you know, closer to the you know,
twelve to thirteen, you know monthrange. So that's the that's our
internal goal, and we'll just kindof play off that. I'm very confident
about pitching in, you know,for twenty twenty four, for the for
the Astros, and hoping to bea big part of the second half push.
I don't have a problem saying that. You know, that's my that's

(02:43:39):
my goal, and that's what we'repushing for. That's Lance mccullor's junior I
Jean. There's a couple of thingsto kind of break down to what he
just said, we'd like to say, digest, digest A little bit a
little frustrating for me on this wholething. I think there's no question how
we feel about Lance mccullor's junior.When he is full on and he is
healthy, he is a very dynamicpicture. He is a big part of

(02:44:01):
the Houston astro staff. Let's calllike we see it. He's always hurt,
okay, But for him to sayI wish I would have gotten surgery
maybe a little bit earlier, Well, dude, you knew coming into spring
training last year that you weren't ahundred percent and when he got hurt,
he tried to push through it andcontinue to throw. So they get in

(02:44:22):
there for surgery and they realized thatthe flexor tendon injury was worse. Yeah,
that's a little frustrating for me.Man, Oh, I get it.
That's frustrating. I'm with you onehundred percent. I Well, I
don't know people's threshold of pain orwhat they saw in those pictures that he's
talking about the snapshot of an MRI. I no, I've had a thousand
MRIs for ligaments and bones and youknow, acls and all that in my

(02:44:46):
life. But it is a snapshot. You also get a feel. I'm
curious when the recommendation of surgery actuallytook place to get him back faster.
And I understand you, you know, you try to tough it out out
and say you're gonna when's the lasttime a guy toughed out an injury like
that, when it was partially offthe bone and without surgery and just came

(02:45:07):
back and said, well, itfelt great two months later. It doesn't
usually happen. It doesn't happen,does not happen. I mean, I
guess I'm a guy who usually ridesif ninety percent of the time and against
ten percent. I love long shotsat times, but hints why they're long
shots that happened very often. Sowhen it comes to injuries and stuff like
that, I get we're fired up. But Patty, and when did he

(02:45:28):
get the surgery? When did wefinally get it? Uh like late?
Not late? But is it afterJuly? I believe so, so the
year's surgery will But you knew goingto spring training, right that it was
bothering you. Yes, so that'syou're talking four months savings. I mean
the time let's see my computer's ofcourse it's going slow. It was in

(02:45:54):
June, all right, So hecould have started it two months earlier,
three months earlier maybe, which wouldget him back three months earlier instead of
July June, May, which getshim back at the beginning to season April.
Yes, but it's hard for meto sit here and decide what was
going on in his mind and whatthe team and the doctors, hey,

(02:46:15):
let's wait it out and see,or let's do this. And he was
saying let's wait out and see.It's a moot point now. But I'm
with you. If you knew andthe pain was there, you probably it's
always hindsight's better to say, hey, you know, what, should have
done it earlier. Let's just hopemoving forward that he's ready by July and

(02:46:35):
it doesn't have a setback, andthat Lance mccolors is one hundred percent healthy
and ready to go. It's beena long time, so it'd be great.
I'm never going to tell a guywhen he thinks he should have his
body ready to go. I knowmy body and what I do, and
I'm sure you know yours. Andthe mental psyche is somebody who's either who's

(02:46:56):
been through it, but also youknow doesn't if you're him like again,
or I got to deal with this. I'm hurt again. The bottom line
is, and you said, ifand when Lance mc colors is healthy,
he's really good, there is noquestion. But part of being really good
is actually being able to put yourfoot on a rubber and pitch, and
he is a dynamic and a hugeaddition when he's right. The question is

(02:47:18):
I got to see him one hundredpercent right in July. I mean for
me, that's the question's got tobe answered for me. And how moving
forward? What is his impact isit in the bullpenners as a starting pitcher.
You start to get to the pointthe more this happens, the more
you think I got to give himless innings than more innings. Yep.
I'm sure his goal is to bea frontline starter again and do it,

(02:47:39):
and he's been successful enough to expectthat, but he's also been injured enough
to question it, and so shouldyou. It's frustrating. I couldn't pull
for a guy harder. Yeah,but I also know that, like I
said, whatever the medical side ofthose conversations go on with the guy who's
getting surgery and the guys who aresuggesting it and whatever you see in those

(02:48:00):
pictures. It's gut wrenching, butcan also sometimes you got to protect the
player from himself. Yeah. Yeah, And I get what he says,
when you know, looking at imagingand MRIs and things like that, and
then he's one hundred percent correct aboutthat when they get in there and they
see that it's a little worse thanexpected. I know, for my back
surgery that I had in October,one of the things that my servant told
me, he said, because Ihad an MRI, an X ray and

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a cat scan all imaging done onmy lower back, and he did tell
me going in, he said,there is a chance that I get in
there and there is something worse thanwhat we've seen on imaging. So I
understand. I say, do youwant me to fix it? Correct?
So there's always that chance legal hasto they legally, they got to tell
you that they don't go in thereand fix something that they didn't expect to
fix it. Say he, bythe way, we fix this, you

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good with it? Yeah, onceyou get your approval and signed off on
it, boom boom, going inhave at it, and you're right,
it is it is. But forme, it's simple. You go in
there, and you see it,go get a fix, get it fixed
right, get it done. Butthen the question that you asked, he's
here on the side of they're probablygonna have surgery. If they don't,
then what a what a shot ofred Bull that is for me? Five

(02:49:05):
hour energy coming out of this.But when when was surgery suggested? Right?
Rather than trying to touch it outme, You may never know.
I mean, if they if theytold him in February, dude, let's
just get this done of last year, and he didn't, then it falls
on him. That's on him.I'm We'll wait it out and see if
I can cut it out. Ifit's if it was one of those where
like, no, let's wait itout and he's like, yes, let's

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wait it out. Wait, orif they said you should probably not have
surgery and he said I should,or whatever it is, then you get
the point trying to get on thesame page. I'm always if you can
get it done, get it done. But if it's if you're sure that
you're not going to get it doneas quickly as possible, especially since you're
young and you want to impact andbe back as soon as possible, let's
just hope that. That's because ifit happens when he says, that's like

(02:49:48):
a trade deadline. Get ye,it's already on your team you have to
trade for if in fact he comesback one hundred percent. And is the
Lancement Colors. We know, theorganization and Joe a Spot are going to
have to side. Is that guya starter or a bullpen guy moving forward?
And you could actually be both atsome point. We've seen it on
this team. But where is hislong term successful future? That's what they're

(02:50:09):
gonna have to ask themselves, andso is Lancema Colors. Let's look ahead
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but you can't be any geek offthe street. Gotta be handy with
the steel, if you know whatI mean. And you keep regular,
mama. It was a clear blackknight, a clear white moon woman.
She was on the streets trying toconsume some starch for the eve so I

(02:52:31):
could get some phone rolling them aride swilling just hit the side of the
LBC miss trying to find mister geeznaca. Yeah, I can do it
now, Yeah, bring it herewe go, Yeah, break it down.
There you go left, Okay,I'm gonna been here we go,
Here we go, Baba, keepgoing, No, I got this one.
You keep dancing right here, keepfor good. Not in love anymore.

(02:52:54):
Yeah, yeah, for good.Things will never be the same again.
Keep forget. Yeah, see you'rejamming. They're saying, I bring
it in a second cut, Imight hit the crip walk here does saying,
damn, what's next? I keepforget? Not in love anymore?

(02:53:20):
Keep forget? Thanks. We willnever be the same again. Yeah.
Yeah, let me concentrate. Wegot it going on. Just ask us
playing. He's playing in the HeroChallenge. Dude, a solid ball striker.

(02:53:43):
I thought we had cross. Ithought we have a cross. Talk
with the pizza man. Stand standwith the pizza man? What was he?
I have no idea that. Didn'tyou ask him to come? I
did? I did control your controlyour peeps. He came, gave me
thumbs up. Stand nor Come on, dude, look you want the righty.
Things will never be the same again. Yeah. Hey, I'm trying

(02:54:07):
to figure out some where's your dude? Did you get a commitment? Taxcellent?
What's that? Sorry? I wasreading a text. It's not I
wasn't you know what? Hey,listen, this is not your this is
not your your your social gathering place. Get off your text. Okay,
we're trying to get some stuff donearound here. Okay, okay, yeah,
yeah, I can't keep the straightwhen I say that. Didn't you

(02:54:30):
get a commitment for somebody? Acommitment taxcelence? Who do you want?
What? What? What? Whodo you want? What? This was
the idea I wanted to stand Northfleet. Whoa to talk at the host of
next ups? That's our guy,Stanley Steamer. I'm not gonna throw under
the bus like other people on thisstation, but we're gonna do some cross

(02:54:50):
talk between you. I was gonnasee both you guys up and you battle.
I love my guys stand, sodo I love him? Glad he's
here? Well he's not here.No, you're gonna talk about you're gonna
I guarantee right when he walks in, you're gonna point at your stand this
time. His locker room should bea team locker room, should it?

(02:55:11):
It should be there? You go. I don't know if anybody all after
the same thing. When come on, let's go? Yeah he did he
loud talking man, No I didnot no, no, no, no,
no. Look at he walked Lookat him. He walked in with
a bad attitude. What yeah,I mean he's staying I'm over here,

(02:55:33):
I'm over here, saying you're mypeep and he's in her loud TALKO.
No, no, you're not.No, hold on, hold on?
How about now? Yeah? Allright, what the hell do younge?
Let's talk? You told me you'dbe here. No call somebody. I
didn't call you. You text mesix minutes. No no, no,

(02:55:54):
you text me less than fifteen minutesago. I texted you at nine am.
You didn't text me at nine am? What you got cricket wireless?
Yeah, be my baby less unlessI get the adorsement I note o'clock.
What do you want? So we'regood? Why are we not good?

(02:56:16):
What do you want? I wantto hear? I wanted to hear your
thoughts? You hit that? Howabout hit that off while you move your
mic off the rig. This thingneeds men's t clinic because it gets to
keep getting a little limp. Youknow what I mean? You should know
what that feels like. I donot. That's your mic on the mic.
Yeah, anyways, stand Norfley joiningus, the host of Next Up,
which comes up at ten o'clock herethis morning. Yeah, tend a

(02:56:39):
noon every day on Sports Talk sevenninety him and Chris Gordy. What my
idea was was to have two footballguys talk football on our show. Well,
we talked baseball on hoops too.Yeah, just today, right football,
your frigging mic, dude, itkeeps going. Turn it off because
you're making it sound. It soundslike you got a piece of crinkled Then
sit your ass out on t itup. Sit there, tighten up everything,

(02:57:01):
get your court tightened up. Wegot about now. We got about
four and a half minutes to seeif we can get this in. Who
are your four teams in college football? The top four right now? Okay,
so before I like you, likeif I had to vote yes today
with before conferenceation. Yeah, thefour best teams correct, four best teams
right now? Yes, constituted,the committee has it correct. You got

(02:57:22):
Georgia, Michigan, Washington, andFlorida State. Okay, sean to me,
the four best teams in the countryare Georgia, Michigan, Oregon is
right now. I said, rightnow, who's better, and we didn't
say who has better? Body workwith that kicking scheduling, I tests right,
Yes, Oregon's playing better than Washington. I got Oregon in. And

(02:57:43):
then the fourth team, the fourthteam right now the way they're playing is
Alabama the way that Alabama's playing asteris. So there are two different comments.
You say, he invited the conversation, now you're setting the rules. Okay,
get clear here. So is itwho's deserving right now or who literally
if they had to play anybody inthe country, the four best teams,

(02:58:07):
Yeah, the best four teams.I would right then Florida State comes out
because their quarterback is John He's done, so Florida State comes out. I
would put Texas ahead of Alabama.They would be my fourth team. Texas
deserves the right to be in therebecause they've beating Alabama, which takes me
back to your Oregon Washington beating themalready in the regular season. Oregon.
But that wasn't the question though,so's the question was. That's why I

(02:58:28):
asked you're talking about one is itcommittee thoughts? Is it who deserves it?
With schedule and points and when they'veplayed it? If I'm lining up
for the four best teams in thecountry, you take your four verse My
four Texas, Georgia, Michigan,and Oregon are the four best teams in
America today the way that they I'mtalking about the way that they've played.

(02:58:50):
Now, if we go by wellAlabama loss of Texas will I already got
to Washington. That's where I wasgoing to get to because you made a
comment to us yesday not putting Ohio. I'm not putting Ohio State in over
Texas or Oregon right now. Enoughto win in Ohio State does Ohio State
has got to know the Dame Texashas the best win of the eighth arguably

(02:59:11):
Michigan the Michigan Ohio State and Texasover Alabama the two best years difference.
So Michigan beat him in their houseOhio State and went to Michigan. So
that's the best teams of the eightteams of the first eight teams. Not
who deserves to be there. FloridaState would be eighth for me. Okay,
it was were there? Where wouldthey be? They've heard that?

(02:59:35):
So then last point here the Texans. You two, how big of a
blow is it to lose Titus Howard. They've had jumbled up offensive lines all
season long? This is just anotherblow. It's it's it's going to be
impactful. I think we just youdon't just roll out a dude that hadn't
been playing ball in three months injuice scrubs because you right, we took

(02:59:56):
him in the second round and hewas going to start for us at senate.
Playing football is playing actual football,So let's not be disrespectful to the
preparation that goes in. They willfeel it, and it's really just experienced,
like whether Titus has played enough snaps, whether he's a true left guard,
which we know he's not, ornothing. Right, there's still something
that comes from having the experience goingthrough the games. Right, You don't

(03:00:18):
want to get a tight this shotfor tons of IDAs. Don't want to
get tons of IDAs. You seewhat I did there? You're right?
See what I did there? Isthat left guard? What's going to happen
when you put your hand in thedirt? And to validate exactly what Stan's
talking about, it's nothing not agood football player experience, man, it's

(03:00:39):
the continuity of your head's on aswivel, Laramie, what do we do?
You haven't been out there banging shoulderswith him saying I got this guy.
Look for the twist. Look forthe games they're going to play.
You got the fourth week we're dualreading off the guard and the end and
the dual read on the inside linebacker. Remember that's all we made that Cincinnati.
Let's do it. Let's cut thebackside off. We're gonna put this
thing on the front side. Andnow, God forbid, somebody hurts an
ankle. Now we've depleted, depletedour depth. Now we've got to go

(03:01:03):
to another cat who may have toplay out of position to move. So
when you lose a guy like that, you lose depth. You lose a
guy who's Tunsel and Howard like gotyou. Now Scruggs is gonna It's not
just the physical execution. There's somepretty damn good football players you mentally got
to be on. So the quarterbackdoesn't take a free runner hit to the
mouth, and that'll be his firstpriority. Would you flip them? Would

(03:01:24):
you go Dieter guard and less Grugsgo back to center for this week?
I would? I think I nowI get six and a half one six
and one half because I haven't seenhim practice, But I would put the
KG or veteran probably in a position, wouldn't you? Yes, it is.
I think Scruggs is just more naturalat snapping the ball. I want
him comfortable, like shooting a freethrow, like that's just the second nature

(03:01:48):
for him where going back and youknow what you could do and he's seen
more guard this year because of playing, so I can do I think I'd
be a little more secure, butyou could also make that change during a
game. I need my center tobe secure in your exactly right, it
may very well be the young center. That's just a little taste of cross
talk here between the Shan Sat fiftyseven minutes ago. Look at your text

(03:02:09):
right now. What show are youon? By the way, you want
to tease your show because you comenext up Me and Chris Gordon. Yeah,
coming up ten to noon. We'llhang out talk some more Texans.
There would be some college football rocketswere in action last night. All the
things awesome. Great to have you, brother, Thanks, thank you.
That's nineteen what no, dude,that's when you responded, look at it
man, unbelievable. Shawn Salisbury ourproducer Triple Emmanuel m Or I'm Brian Lima.

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Thank you for listening. We're backtomorrow morning on a funky Friday,
six am tomorrow right here on SportsTalk seven ninety Don't go Anywhere. Next
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