Yainer Diaz Walks Off Homer To Win, MLB HOF Qualifications, UH Gets New Athletic Director

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Soulsby. Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sean Salisbury, the USC True longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Ryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
What a sloppy ass game last night, but the Astros
found a way to win y Diaz with a walk
off bomb.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
What's happening? What's up? What's up? I think? Have you
ever known some guys like have highlight? I think Joe
thisman used to be called thievesman, but he was thisman
for Heisman right when they have good seasons and there, yeah,
for their campaign.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
No, it's a good good looking beer, yeah type there
you go. So here's an interesting question that's not really interesting.
Do you think that we should name or change Yiner
Dia is his name after that walk off to Yaneer er?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah? The bomb? Yeah, that's what I'm going with. It
was it was bomb. Can't beat the Astros? No, they can't.
So you're gonna go right now and look me in
the face and tell me do people should we change
their name when they're a good star? Do you change?
How you change your name?

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Like Dorset? Tony Dorsett, Dorset? So do we go Yiner
to Yaneer? Maybe John or no, it's Andy. Andy'll call
him and give me a name. Yeah, maybe can Andy
start calling him?

Speaker 4 (01:34):
You ear?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Probably. I just think that's been on my mind.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
I mean the guy, I mean, Ynier sounds like Target,
but Tarja I like when they call Yeah, it makes
it a little more like whoa.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
You know, It's like in Joe Dirt.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
He tried to call his name Joe Deartayah, but it's
Joe Dirt, right, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
Just adds a little flavor, right, But how about you
near Dias, that big blast man. Much needed things that
they weren't doing it the first part of the season,
first third, for sure, they're doing now. This is who
we thought they were, where they could win games like
this close the right way, late inning wins, when you

(02:14):
don't play a great game, go ahead and win.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
They were losing these early in the year.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Now they're winning them, and it seems to be a
different cap that's coming through. And Yiner Diaz has been
on friggin' fire, swinging the bat and another homer. You
can't get him out of the He's got to be
in the four or five ole the rest of the year, right, Yeah,
I mean he's comfortable there and there's no doubt. So
regardless of whin, you get Tucker back and and you

(02:39):
just can't hit, you can't move him anywhere the way.
He's swinging the bat right now and producing runs in
the middle of the order. So yeah, Yeiner that was
big last night, got a pitch he could drive and
they battled back and win in the night. This is
a team that was struggling to do this, and hence
their struggles throughout the first part of the season, and

(03:01):
then all of a sudden, you know, they've turned it around,
got everyday players in the top of the lineup started
to roll.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
But they they've learned. They they're doing what they normally do.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
They know how to win these games, and they're not
letting them They're not letting them get by without pulling
them out. Now, they're gonna lose once in a while,
but they are consistently now putting pressure on pitchers, which
is exactly who they are.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, and in a game where the Astros had four errors.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yeah, defensively baseball has been a really good thing for them,
but they were sloppy and but Brian, that's the point
about this is that to be able to to play
defensively like they did yesterday. And Kakuchi had a rough
start to the game, but jump out, you know then
he you know, you got a couple of strikeouts in
the inning and started off with the home week. How

(03:48):
many times we've seen that in this city without two
v so you know, you give up that leadoff home run.
But he you know, hung in there for a minute
and then they took care of it. And it's not
like they surrendered ten runs and can Lee Jansen hung
him one that he just hammered right, let him get
his fat part of the bat on it, and that
was that. So in yer Diaz, but it was a

(04:10):
four airs when you could win playing you didn't get
your best opening start for I meant start from Kokuchie right.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
How many strike outs he ended up having seven? Yeah,
so there you go. Did you how many you predict seven?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Okay at eight and triple e I think he won six,
so we're all pretty close.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
But he had two in the first thing, even after
the you know, giving up what three hits, he gave
up three hit back in the back hids Dever's got
a hit and he gave him the home run.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Dran right, but then.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
You know, got the strikeout, got hose on on that
against was it Cassis or whatever? Maybe wasn't cat what's
his uh Tristan Tristan uh tristan cast Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
He threw him one.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Really should have rung him up a pitch before, but
a couple of pitches later he uh wrung him up
and then started to you know, settle into a strikeout mode.
But they did a great job of hanging hanging around
and when they've hung around at times this year, they
haven't been able to pull it off early. But this
is why they've been as as good a team as
we've seen since well what do we call it since

(05:12):
late late early gene early early middle of now. Yeah,
I mean, and they've got great pitching starts from we've
We mentioned that yesterday with Steve Sparks and he did.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Should I say so?

Speaker 5 (05:24):
It was It's impressive to win games like that, especially
when defensively you had no business winning it.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
No, I mean, you look at the way the defense
yesterday was just something you don't see very often from
an Astros team. Altuve air, Caratini, air, Jeremy Pania air,
Shay Whitcombe air and then on the other side, uh
Jansen air for the Red Sox. It was just sloppy
all the way around. And then somehow, like you said,

(05:49):
the Astros just hanging around, hanging around, put up a
two spot to tie the game in the fourth, and
they give up the lead in the sixth, and they
cut it down to one and then finally are able
to uh get another run to tie it in the eighth.
And then obviously we saw the heroics from Jainer Diaz
against Kenley Janssen. I swear every time Kenley Jansen pitches
against the Red Sox in a tight ball game, the
Astros get the better of him.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Pitches against the Astros. Yeah, there's no doubt. It doesn't
matter what what city he's playing for. Yeah, it doesn't
matter whether he's in LA and Red Sox. They just
he just they drive here. I mean, he's got to
be like, oh gosh, again, I gotta deal with this team.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
So it was it is.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
It's when you make those airs and that you know
early on that hard ground ball that Whitcomb booted. I
think that was in the first inning if I'm not mistaken.
But they were defensively not good, but that's a that's
a sign of a good team. You can't only I mean,
if you're just gonna win when you're playing really good
and getting a great start from your pitchers and your
best hitters are hitting, then I I uh that you

(06:53):
can't sustain that. You can't sustain Your best players are
the only ones You've got to have. Somebody else you
gotta have. You got to be able to win when
you're not playing good baseball, meaning in that game where
you scuffle around for a few innings, and quite frankly,
I don't know what the numbers are, but I would
imagine you make four airs in a game would be
like four turnovers. A lot of times you turn the
ball over that much. Something crazy's got to happen for

(07:15):
you to pull that game off, right. The other team's
got to be just as careless, and they just were not.
They were not smooth defensively yesterday, but did enough. And
when you hang around and let big bats come to
the plate, now you have an opportunity to win a
baseball game that, quite frankly, defensively, like I said, you

(07:36):
probably shouldn't have won.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Kenley Janssen against the Astros in the regular season. Just
in the regular season two and three record with an
ERA of seven point zero four.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
Yeah, this is a team, and I think he feels
the same way. But he's seen the results up close
and personal by himself as the pitcher and giving up
those hits. But I can tell you this, I don't
think there's any pitchers in baseball that want to deal
with this team and when they're playing this type of baseball,
I don't. I just think that we can talk about

(08:09):
who fears who and all that, but I'd be willing
to bet we've discussed this brand that nobody wants to
admit who.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
They don't want to play. They want to play everybody.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
I don't think you want to see this team, no
whether you're Baltimore or the Angle.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
I just think that they the teams around the.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
League feel like, for some reason, these guys just know
how to win, and they do and their pitching is
stepped up and they don't even have full I'm thinking
about how other people would be feeling about this. I
don't think you in a long series. I'm not sure
anybody in the American League gets you to the point.
Now Baltimore is really good. Yeah, I know how good

(08:46):
they are. But when you got this team doing this,
when they've had all that they've been through this year,
other teams have to take notice.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
They just absolutely have to.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
And the Red Sox found out again the Astros are
close and you give them another swing of the bat,
you're you're there's a chance you're in trouble.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
And you saw what happened.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, And another thing that's uh continues to be consistent
down the stretch. Josh hater another inning, no hits, no runs,
three up, three down. He looks outstanding coming out.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Do you make the deal knowing what you know? Now?
Go back?

Speaker 5 (09:23):
You pulling this trigger, knowing what you know now at
this stage of the season, you can give it.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well actually now yeah, with Ryan pressing on the I
l with some back issues.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah. And wasn't his velocity down recently too? Down a
couple Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
So it's never a secret. I mean, it's never it's
not a coincident when when you're hurt. I mean, when
something like that happens, you start to look okay, something's deeper, right,
It's not just that he's struggling with confidence. Boom and
there you go. He's bothered and Alex Bregman's still out.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Chandler Rome tweeted out before the game that he said
Alex Bregman was never going to play tonight, so I
don't know when he's gonna play. Apparently from Joe A. Spotta,
he said Alex Bregman was going to him saying put
me in coach, But then you don't see him the lineup,
and he still might not be in tonight.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
And they still found a way to win. Yeah, And
Kyle Tucker's doing some hopping drills by the way.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
So it's it's been an odd year when it comes
to injuries. But so you would do it even if
Presley was healthy. I'm talking about right now present with
him on the area, you could go two weeks ago.
So now would you made the deal? Yeah, probably still
make it. Yeah, I think so too. We go up
and down, up and down with our thought process. But

(10:49):
in truth, yeah, you're gonna have to have that guy
to win a championship back and you are to win
a World Series. That guy's gonna have to pitch like
he's pitching now.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
And when you know he's got that ability, don't you
have to say, Yeah, it'd done it again.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, because I feel like what's in the in the
grand scheme of things, in the entire part of the
season we've seen so far, what's been a bigger issue
the back end of the bullpen or not scoring with
runners in scoring position.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
The second one the latter. So I probably make what
happens is.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
One loss on somebody hits a home run, like on
Kenley Jansen last line that is so much more hyper focused.
That's like worth five saves to some people. Right, you
go and do that. It's like, oh, do we throw
out everything guy's done? It's like, oh my gosh, you
guys sucks. Why we trade eighty million dollar? Why are
we pay him eighty million ninety million dollars whatever it is?

(11:40):
And then he rolls off where he's you know, pushing
thirty saves and one after.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
The twenty six in a row. That's exactly right. So
you what do you say?

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Like I said, it like takes eight or ten saves
to equally in people's minds like, oh okay, guy's pretty good. Yeah,
but one walk up, Like right now in Boston they're
crushing Jansen today.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
They just will.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
And yet the guy's been a Hall of Fame type closer. Right,
It's just we we remember that those I add up far,
they hit us harder than a What about a save?
You come in and face the middle lineup, you go bingo,
bangle bonga, strike him out.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah he was always doing his job.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Yeah that's right. But when you give up the home
run to a good hitter, you're like damn. And Diaz
is raking right now and Kenley Jansen through a pitchy
a drive.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
So it goes both ways. But yeah, I think I'd
have to make the deal man.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
I think I would too, just knowing, especially knowing now
with all the injuries and moving people around, he's been
constant health wise, and that's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yep, seven seveney isn'tnumber to join.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
We're gonna talk astros all morning long, especially with the
big walk off home run from the Diaz. We got
some text and stuff to go through. Al Ziz al Shaire,
one of the defensive players for the Texans, with a
really good article from DJB Enemy. I got some couple
a couple of points from that article to go through
with Sean loaded Show this morning here on the Sean
Salisbury Show, what did yord On Alvarez tell jiner Diez

(13:06):
before the walk off bomb last night. We'll talk about
it next right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
That's beutiful.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
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Speaker 3 (13:29):
I call it lady Adam. You do, yeah, lady a yeah.
Or what's the other song about Shaboozie? Everybody in the
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Speaker 4 (13:41):
Of course it is singy chingey. Yeah, he does have
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Speaker 6 (13:45):
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Speaker 4 (13:45):
What do you think about chingy? I like chingy? Yeah, yeah,
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I think you underrate Chaboozie. That's just my opinion. Under rate, Yeah,
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on Shaboozie.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
What happened to man? Yeah, I don't know who you
are anymore either, saboos here your your BS approach to Shabooz.
Now you called him shoze tight? Okay? Yeah? Yeah, how
about it? Though? Man yin Diaz, were I was thinking

(14:23):
about this. Well, I guess what's the difference between him
and Martin Maldonado. Not much. No, I'm just thinking that,
you know, a lot different. I guess what I'm trying
to say, is he a guy who's an m VP
down the road in this league? Like a he Now
he's not the defensive but he can hit?

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Is he a well could chance to where he can
go and hit three hundred and hit thirty home runs
and driving a hundred runs at the catcher position and
be efficient up at catcher. And don't misunderstand me when
I say this, I'm not saying he's Buster Posey, but
you know the Joe Mauer Buster Posey got who can hit.
And as he continues to improve his defense, are we

(15:04):
talking about a guy who's an MVP? Is he not
this year? But can you see him being a guy
who's a ten time All Star? Is he this good
or are you still concerned defensively that he's going.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
To be this good?

Speaker 7 (15:16):
Well?

Speaker 3 (15:16):
I think defensively, I think he'll continue to improve. There's
see in calling games and things like that, framing whatever
you want, take that out.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
Let's say he didn't have to focus on all the
tough things that are with catchering you just like he
was the everyday first baseman, every day the first basement.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Is he two ninety thirty home runs, one hundred RBI gouts? Yeah,
I think coming into this year, I predicted he was
going to hit thirty. I thought he hit twenty five. Yeah, yeah,
I thought he was gonna hit thirty.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
He's at fourteen seventy RBIs and an ops of seventy
eighty one with an average two ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
He's late start on the power right, He's been floating
around this pretty much all season long.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
So I was just thinking about how, you know, that's
such a hard position to find. I'm talking about where
you've got a guy who can hit. Most people when
they draft a catcher, high want him to be great defensively,
and the luxury is phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Bat right, I mean it is.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
I mean when guys, I mean, maybe everybody wants to
find Johnny Bench, But in truth, Johnny Bench, what's what
do you think the first reason they went after Bench
out of power?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yeah, he could, but he could.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
He was a great defensive catcher, Pud Rodriguez, great defensive catcher,
and in the process put up incredible numbers to be
a Hall of Famer. So if you get both, but
those guys just don't fall off a turn up truck
and land in your lap, you know, Buster Posies of
the world, Right. I just I almost feel like Yainer
Diaz has that ability to be a guy we're talking

(16:46):
like this for are we a Is that too premature?

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Now?

Speaker 5 (16:50):
I'm not comparing it to Posy or Rodriguez? Don at
mist understand me. I'm just saying, as current goes, could
he turn into the best catcher in baseball offense, defense combined?

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Can he be that that guy? I think so? Can
he do what Salvador Pres does? Yeah? I think so?

Speaker 5 (17:07):
And Pres got a lot of power. Yeah, there there's
another guy. Yeah, So I just watch him he starts.
It feels like, I guess I don't feel like when
I'm watching him looking at the first year starter and
a lot of guys in there. You know, when I
say first year starter coming into this year, it would
have been easy to say, okay, you know, when he
was struggling at the plate, to say, yep, there he goes.

(17:30):
This is a little slump here for him. But to
be able to fight back after he was going through
difficult times hitting this year and knowing the focus he
has to make as the catcher, and you know, calling
pitches and framing and doing it being solid defensively and
still to continue to work on his bat, and here
we are getting the walk off. I just I always,
you know, I think that position is so hard to

(17:52):
gauge offensively because even if they're a good offensive high
school catcher, right, I mean, were they got a good
bat in high school or go to college? The focus
when they come up? Where do you think the focus most?
I got to make sure my pitching staff's right. It
almost feels it's almost like the hitting is part of
the you know, you know how like when hitters go
up and they bunt, bunt, bunt, and then the rest

(18:13):
of the swing away. I almost feel like we expect
our catcher defense, defense, defense, and then if you can hit,
and thank goodness, we'll patch you on the back right
with the iron das, I don't feel that way. I
feel like he can hit, and once the defense catch
ups to the catches up to the offense you're looking at.
It feels to me like one of American League's best
catchers on a regular daily basis.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, I think I think as the defense gets better
and better, I mean, I think the hitting is going
to always be there for him.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
I think he's more natural swing in the bat, right,
so you'll probably take a little more. But doing all
the things you got to do to be a great
defensive catcher is hard and to be able to and
I know this sounds crazy, but he hable to manage
your time to be able to do that. Dominate that
because in truth, when I say pud Rodriguez, first time
comes to your mind, even though he's had was a
hell of a hitter, it's snap throat of first believable

(19:00):
pop time and great defensive catcher.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Am I right or wrong? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I When I think of pud Rodriguez, I just think
of Hose like from from a kid watching.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Sitting in his sitting on one knee, and throw you
out of second back, throw you out at first base, right, yeah,
throw behind you. So I just I'm intrigued with the
ir deass. I guess potential, but he's more than potential.
He's his production's growing. And I think he'll look at
this season and say it was an off season. I mean,
a this wasn't my best power season. Because I think

(19:32):
he is a twenty five home run.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Guy every year.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
So when you look at YAINR. Diaz where he stacks
up amongst the catchers throughout all of baseball, he ranks
number three right now, William Contrez at number one, and
then hell of a year Salvage or Perez ahead of
him then and he's in.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
You know, Perez is big and strong, and Perez never
gonna hit three hundred, but he's with that one year
what he hit forty five for some home runs almost
fifty somewhere in there. So I just if you can
get that kind of power. Hell, even if I was
a two seventy hitter with thirty home runs, one hundred
RBIs and playing better defense year after year, wouldn't you

(20:10):
take that?

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, name the last time that the Astros have had
a catcher that is right over to seventy to fifty,
especially Maldonado.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
And then bring power to the plate as well, and
a chance to win every point swinging the bat.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Not since I've been here.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Wasn't Brian McCann. It wasn't Robinson Chirinos. Damn sure, wasn't
Martine Maldonado, And then all the other guys that have
chipped in the.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Back here for one they were all here for one reason. Yeah,
defense and control of pitching staff.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Right, and hope you can and and and they're winging
a prayer at.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
The point, right, I hope you can hit? Right? I think?
Who I mean, who was a better Garrett Stubbs too, right?

Speaker 8 (20:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Garttubs No, right, what point?

Speaker 3 (20:48):
It's just Brian McCann was probably the second or the
next best hitter for a catcher compared to this in
this in at least in this golden.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Round here since I've been Here's no question he was
right on a consistent basis. But none of them have
the offensive prowess and ability that Diaz has.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, and they got him by James Click trading Miles Straw.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
And then he came into this organization is the it
wasn't even the the future at catcher right, and ended
up doing enough to get Corey Lee traded, not not him,
but you know, doing enough where they felt they comfortable
they could trade Coreyley and they found their their catcher
of the future and man of life as he validated their.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Decision in two seasons.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Brian McCann, when he was with the Astros hit two
forty one one year in two twelve the other.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
And that's the best they had office since he is
It's not crazy to their best offensive catcher has been
since I've been here.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
It's been in no doubt, there's no question about it.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
All right, we'll open up the phone line seven one three,
two one two five seven nine will take your calls
on the Astros win last night. And we also got
to hear what did Jordan Alvarez tell janar Diez before
his at bat.

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The Shawn Salisbury Show continued, Yeah, like Jante Murray, Yeah,
you know kind of you can chante Jeantay kind of
depends on what part of the world you're in. Rout
to be confused with Ashanti nice. Yeah, you don't put
it up respect on her.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
I do, though, you do. Who's better her? Alicia Keys
as long as cheese, as long as she's not performing? Yes,
Susher or whatever? That weird stuff was. Wasn't that the
halftime show?

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Was it Usher? John Legend? No, it was Usher? Oh yeah,
was it Usher? It was at the Super Bowl. I've
seen her. She squeaked. It's terrible.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
I think she with John Legend had we're doing dueling
pianos and singing at the when they honored the Beatles.
Paul McCartney was in the front row.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
You lost me.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
But they they did the you know, everybody was singing
Beatle cover cover. It sounded pretty good, and that Sharon
was there and did all that, and they sang Alicia
Keys and Legend sang a cut together.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Imagine was it? Imagine all the people No, that wasn't it.
It was Uh, I'll find it. But that yeah, Keys,
I'll take Keys over as Chante. I'll take Shaboozie Overante. Paul.
Stop it. That's just disrespectful. Yeah, I know it is.
Seven one three, seven nine. Start with Dave. Dave, good morning, Hey,

(24:49):
good morning.

Speaker 9 (24:50):
Hey, so great game last night, Yeah, for sure, awesome,
yon Air Diaz h Man. I'm just looking at some
of these guys, with the exception have a few what
do you guys think I'd like to get what you
guys think With the exception of a few players. We
we we pay some big money bringing in people like
Hater and you know, uh a Bray, you playing first base,

(25:14):
you know all this stuff. You pay some good money.
But I think the Astros are notorious for bringing up
all these young bucks and training them and raising them
and and and and and developing value in these guys.
And then they go off and and then we lose them.
But you know, it's kind of like a little a

(25:35):
little place where players come when they're young and they
grow up and they really think, look at this great organization,
learn how to win, feel what it's like to win,
and then uh, you know, I wonder what we're not
that team like the Dodgers and the Yankees, and where
we pay all this money try to build a super team.

(25:55):
I just want to get you'all thoughts on that.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Thank y'all, than you, Dave, and we'll get to that
here in just second. Starck, Roger, Roger, what's happening?

Speaker 10 (26:04):
Oh, good morning, fellas. I actually wanted to know what
what what Jordan told Diaz. I don't know if it
had something to do with that jansen funky exaggerated delivery
to try to miss his timing up. I'm pretty sure
every picture is trying to get a leg up on
ord Off because he's just so freaking good. But I've
never liked Kelly Jansen, just like the reason.

Speaker 11 (26:24):
Why I don't like Messer Cortester.

Speaker 10 (26:26):
They have these funky deliveries and and and I don't
think they can get the max the max quality out
of their pictures when they stop and do that kind
of kind of crap to try to throw the pictures
timing off. But hey, everybody's looking for for an advantage, right,
So it is what it is. But yeah, I'm so
glad that whatever, yeah, whatever you order told yan Or
he really paid attention or something or kind of like

(26:48):
I got your back or whatever.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
But that was so gratifying to see that home runer.

Speaker 10 (26:52):
Holy crap, after such a bad performance in the field,
with these guys who you know, like like a TV
and and and and you know, making these these errors,
I was like, Wow, maybe not our night, maybe the
moon's too big, who knows, but yeah, I'm just glad
that it came through that way. It was nice to see.
I just hope we see more of it, less errors.

(27:14):
And I really think I'm not going to put the
sugar on on on Shade wood Comb's name yet because
you gotta be damn good to earn that kind of nickname.
But I do like his moxie. Man, he did rebound
with that with that end bat uh, you know, and
taking that walk, it's spending on some pretty close pitches.

Speaker 7 (27:30):
So I'll just leave it at that.

Speaker 10 (27:32):
Guys have a good one.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Appreciated Roger, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
But as far as Dave's question about the you know,
you know, the young guys that come up through the organization,
get up to the big league level, perform well, and
then they leave.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yep. I mean we've seen that a few times. I
think it happens in all organizations.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Korea Springer, in my opinion, probably going to be Alex Bregman.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
I don't think they do it on purpose. No, I
just think they have a line in the sand and
maybe it's etched in stone that they're just not going
to move far off it when it comes to money.
And it also is rare in an organization when you
raise guys in your organization and they all turn out
to be stars. Springer, Korea, Bregman. Cole comes here and

(28:18):
got better even though it wasn't you didn't draft him.
Point the point is they do get better, but with
the guys they draft, or if you look at yinor
to be to make a trade for a guy who
at that point in time was just a guy.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Comes here and becomes the guy at catcher. So I
you know, he makes Dave.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
I understand Dave's point, and it is a bummer, and
that's well, you know what the crazy thing is, you're
seeing that that's what college football's become. Go there, five star,
have them train you and get yourself right, and then
all of a sudden, oh, I can't get on the
field because the third basement's still there, and he's a star,
and he's in the prime of his career. So okay,

(28:56):
I'm going to transfer. I'm going to go to free
agency or get t I'm going to transfer and go.
You guys did two great years with me. Thank you
for all the development. Now I'm going to go. Somebody
else is going to reap the benefit, right. I think
that's what Dave's talking about. I think the only way
you're going to be able to keep guys down the
road in the future is if they make if their
narrative shifts on, we're willing to overpay. I'm not saying

(29:21):
some guys aren't worth four hundred million, but that listen,
if you give a guy three hundred million for ten years, yeah,
and they're in their mid to late twenties and it's
going to be almost forty by the time they're done,
that's probably an overpay, whether it's in years or money, right, Yeah,
no question most of the time. So I don't think
they intentionally try to do it this way, but you

(29:41):
do intentionally try to take a fifth rounder and make
him look like a first round or you'd like to
take a first rounder and turn him into a Star
and this organization over the last seven eight years, nobody's
done it better.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
They just haven't kept those stars.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Once they've reached their prime and well in an astros category,
price themselves out of Houston.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, that's what it's become. That's what we've seen.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
But they're fortunate that guys like pain you come in,
Guys like Das get traded for and show up after
you spend all the time miners, guys like you know,
whether it's Witcomb, these guys that all of a sudden
develop in five years from now, five of these cats
were talking about hundred Browns and Ace whit comes, you know,
an All Star. You're like, damn once again, great development
and smart scouting. Yeah, talent evaluators are hard to find.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
That's that's the biggest thing for me, is the talent evaluators,
the scouting Department, the International Scouting Department. That's the I
wouldn't say golden ticket, but that's one of the things
that they have done so well over this span.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Right, And I'm not talking about the scouting of a
guy like Carlos Krea. That's easy, yeah, right, right, a.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Six three and a half six foot four to three
sixty three shortstop who's got one hundred mile an hour
arm and can hit it a country mile and is
everybody in the world wants him.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
I ain't talking about him. I'm talking about the sixth rounder,
the Renel Blancos that are working in a car wash.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
And also like with Renel Blanco, he was going to
be a bullpen guy until Dana Brown got here. Was like, no,
we're stretching you out. You're going to be a starter.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Hunter. Brown wasn't the first round pick, was it. No,
he came from Wayne State.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
That's what I'm saying. Wayne State in Michigan. Yeah, Wayne
State in Michigan. Point is is that they find a
way with their to see something aside from the stuff
other people see. And so you can take a fifth
rounder and he ends up being listen to a Hunter
Brown's an ace of a staff at some point it
may be here, hopefully. So the point is they do

(31:29):
their talent evaluators to be able to see certain gifts
that we don't see just with the naked eye watch everything.
That's why guys stay in the business thirty forty years
scouting people and they're seventy and they can still see
stuff that a twenty year old can't see, and then
then you get the tweeners. I mean it's a young business,
but scouting also is a veteran business because they've seen
so much. If you're willing to change and not you know,

(31:52):
all the way back to moneyball, you want to change
the way you look at players. Now what we're expecting
because of analytics. So the talent evaluation in this building
for years has been through the roof.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, it just has no question about it. Seven one,
three five, seven. Ay, we'll continue to take your calls.
Let's hear from the Red Sox broadcast. How did it
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Speaker 4 (34:14):
Why you're this is the Sean Salisbury Show, Get back
at it? That's Rambo, right, this is one of the
worst movies of all time, Seawan. You cannot convince me
other movies iconic. No it's not. Yeah, it actually I
mean yeah for being so bad?

Speaker 12 (34:29):
No?

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yes? And you know, why would I take criticism of
a movie from a guy? Wouldn't it take? Well, it's
one of the movies, one of the movies I watched
for the quiz.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
Right, why would I take criticism of a movie from
a guy? I wouldn't take a movie advice from because
I am thought, Yeah, that's fair. But I'm just saying
you welcome all opinions on this show.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
I do openly correct and respectfully, exactly and respectfully.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
That I would have thought, knowing your personality, did John Jonathan,
is it because of the cinematic part of it?

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Older, you're not too late?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Fletch is phenomena around the same time. Okay, Just so
John John Rambo is Sly in that movie Awful.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
I'm in the I'm in the woods, and and you
know he's running away from people.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Slyes a military legend. Okay, he's a he's a military legend?
Or is he just a did people just reject him?
As he wants is for his country to love him
as much as he loves the fact that, hey, they
drew first blood? Okay, how many in that?

Speaker 5 (35:39):
And then in the woods when they were going and
they were chasing after you know, the local sheriff's department.
How many guys is he gonna oki dok in the
woods and then cry out for the leader say him
like five goods? Yeah, Will, Will, guy's got spikes in
his byes.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
I mean, everybody's bitching and whining for Will and it's
just such a will they got a game. It's just
so god Rest is so great. Great other guy actor,
just never the lead, but always a great acting in
that great uh supporting actor. Yeah, Brian Dennahey, but I
just I know, we digress. I just nobody said it

(36:15):
was gonna win awards, but Rambo just it's iconic, Jonathan Rambo,
dude hurts. So yeah, it hurts. All right, that's all right, No,
it really isn't. It's fun. Respect the opinion, thank you.
I appreciate that. I don't hold it in the highest
regard though. That's all right.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
That's fair though, John Rambley, I agree, that's fair. Any
did you watch any other Rambos after.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
The first one? Absolutely not? First Blood? Huh that's it.
First Blood and the only blood that I'm gonna watch
on that one? Terrible. I think I can get you
to sit down and watch a marathon. There you go.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, let's let's get out to the phone lines real
quick before it gets seven o'clock hour.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Let's talk to Mark. Mark. What's happening, Hey man, how
you guys doing this morning? We're terrible, that's great. Good,
that's what somebody should say. We're not good, Mark, We're good.

Speaker 13 (37:07):
Well, we should be good after that game last night,
because I tell you, we looked like we we looked
like a bunch of clowns out there last night. But
you know what, we we looked like a bunch of
clowns with a w behind us. And if you go
back three months April May, there's no way we have
won that game. And remember that game a couple of
nights ago, that two nothing game where we had two

(37:28):
hits in xtra innings and one. We wouldn't have won
that either. And so you know, this is a mark
of a good team. We couldn't three months ago. We
were inventing new ways to lose every night, and now
we're finding ways to win.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
And that's the marks of a great team.

Speaker 14 (37:45):
And we're starting to look.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Like the Astros of the last seven years. And the
other good thing about.

Speaker 13 (37:50):
It is, you know we had we had good contributions
down at the end of the lineup last night. McCormick's
having a miserable year. He played a good role last night.
Dubond has been struggling lately.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
He had a big hit.

Speaker 13 (38:02):
McCormick flying around the basis stealing. But everything was looking
good with respect to the contributions were getting and uh,
you know so there were some good take home things
last night. There were some good things that happened, even
though we look miserable.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
No question about it. Mark, thank you for the call.
Marks one correct.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Like we said they have no shot at winning that
in April, absolutely, I mean shot, yes, But the way
they've played April May, they were like, well you would
have chalked that up as yes, they would have taken
the l Yeah, that's the play.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Poorly three from win.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I think there were three of eleven with runners in
scoring position. Yeah, they're not winning that game. Still found
a way to win. Yeah, let's get into the seven
o'clock hour. We'll keep on talking about these astros and
that impressive win last night. They are five games up
in the AL West and how close are they to
the number one seed in the American League. Yeah, they
got a shot. We'll talk about it next on Sports
Stalk seven.

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Speaker 3 (39:34):
Show talking about the Astros win last night, Janer Diaz
with a walk off bomb off of Kenley Jansen. Astros
win five to four. It's get out to the phone lines.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Tom. We appreciate you holding Good morning, good.

Speaker 8 (39:48):
Morning, Good to be with you as always.

Speaker 12 (39:50):
Guys, Hey, talking about drawing first blood, let me take
you back to May twenty six when the Astros were
twelve and twenty four. Since then, they've gone fifty six
and thirty two. Guys, that's twenty four games over five hundred.
When they were down twelve under five hundred.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
It ain't over.

Speaker 12 (40:13):
On June third, they lost Tucker. He's been gone sixty
three games. They're only forty one and twenty two tenths then,
so they got some they got some more work to do.
What this team is doing is unprecedented. And what I'm
thinking also, fans out there, if you're within the sound
of my voice right now, and you're gonna take credit
to telling me that the Assos we're gonna go forty

(40:34):
one and twenty two without Tucker roll another one, because
there's no way you would have never thought back. I
don't know what else to say. I was happy from
McCormick last night. Let me just say one thing about Child.
You know, the guy's not produced at all, but he
keeps stepping up there and doing whatever he's saying. That's
stolen base yesterday big time. I'm gonna say you right now,

(40:57):
I'm gonna go on the land.

Speaker 8 (40:58):
He's gonna have a run.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
You just watched.

Speaker 12 (41:02):
The guy's too good of a player. He's showing he's
better than he is now. So I'm hoping that that's
gonna happen. And I just keep hoping they're gonna WINNDO. Man,
he got Diesel being with Tromber being twenty in four
in this run, and it's just unbelievable. So don't forget
this Castle fans. This is uh, it's a big time

(41:26):
welcome it. Thanks for letting me in, guys.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
Thank you Tom. Appreciate you Tom.

Speaker 11 (41:31):
I do.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Here's one thing I wouldn't have thought that they would
have done this run, had this kind of run, judging
from what we saw the first two months of the
season with Tucker in the lineup. Yeah, they've done it
without him, right, which is saying something so I would
have never thought that.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
I mean, because we even said, come on, man, that
kind of run. It's like they're not playing well enough
to stay consistent to make that kind of run. Well,
I'll be damned, they sure are.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
And they, like I said, we would have at some
point during the season, would have said, even with Tucker
in the lineup, that they're not going sixty one and whatever.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
It is right right what Tom said. But they sure
as hell have and they did it with him missing
sixty plus games, which is insane, which is nuts into
a bone blow out. Seven five, seven ninety Alex. Welcome
in morning, fellas.

Speaker 17 (42:18):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Yeah, we got your brother. I had an issues earlier.

Speaker 18 (42:24):
I just want to make a couple of comments real quick.
Uh one, Sean, I think you've got the nickname for
yan or yaneer perfect because usually when he comes up
to the plate, it turns into a you nearly got him.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
Nice.

Speaker 18 (42:41):
I think I think that's a I think that's a
good one. And then, uh, I got a question for y'all,
and I want to have his opinion on this one.
The play at the plate when Alvarez came in and
they tagged him out and they over they overturned the call.

Speaker 19 (42:55):
Would y'all have gone and reviewed the blocking of the plate.

Speaker 18 (42:59):
Instead of the close call at first base when Yannier.

Speaker 19 (43:04):
Was pulled off the back because that looked really close
to blocking the plate in my opinion from watching it
on the screen. I just figured I'd get your all
opinion on that one and uh and go from there.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
You'll have a great day, guy, Thank you, Alex. What
do you think about the blocking the plate call?

Speaker 3 (43:24):
I wouldn't have reviewed for blocking to the plate in
the in the replay when he receives the baseball, then
he goes to try and tag, and that's where the
shin guard gets in front of the plate. Everything prior
to that without having the baseball, he was not on
the plate, not in not blocking the plate. So I
don't think it was going to be ruled blocking now
with because he had controlled the baseball, correct, he had

(43:46):
the baseball.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
I mean he was.

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Intentionally shit guard shin guard in front of the plate
without the ball, which is the rule.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
You can't block the play without the ball, correct. Yeah,
So I died. I don't think that's something and nothing.
And I understand what Alex is saying. There also comes
a point in time when you know, with this rule
of not being able to block the plate and get
rid of these collisions and the rest of it. Here's
the problem too. You still got it.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
When you have the ball, you got to you got
to allow for a catcher to be a catcher, to
slide his pads, to slide, you know what I'm saying,
to get himself in position to make a tag.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah, you just do.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
And I I understand the level of controversy or the
call or the slippery slope of the fine line there
is there, but you still got to let a catcher.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
I mean, it can't just be the runner. The catcher's
got to have a chance.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Once once the catcher possesses the baseball, then you can
go down and get in front of the plate.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
That's part of what you said. That's called baseball. I
have a problem with it.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
And if if that was the case, or I'm sorry
that was the case, and you saw the shin guard
go in front of the plate where Jordan's.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Foot cleat hits the shing guard, completely legal.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Because he had the baseball attempting to make the tag,
so I wouldn't have I wouldn't get the.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Bang bang part of it. But once it's controlled and
you slow it down and doesn't see on the original
part of it. But it felt like the right call.
It was in.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
It felt like the right call. And real quick about that.
By the way, let's get some love Kuchi's playing the
first inning on a glove. Oh yeah, was really awesome.
That could have been a disastrous inning, yes, And it
starts out with the home run. Guys get a couple
of hits and then all of a sudden, bam, you
get You make that play on a forced tag at home,
the tag at home, and he made it perfect. A

(45:27):
lot of times that ball comes out, it's high and
it's hesitant. If it's hant, he's going to get him out.
I mean he's gonna slide in safe. Really nice and
accurate job by Kokuchi pouncing off that mound to make
that throw, and in the long run, that run mattered.
You never know when it's going to happen. But that
was for a team that played such poor defense defense yesterday.
That wass as good a defensive play as there was

(45:49):
by the yesterday.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Yeah, because if he doesn't make that play at first thing,
he can go completely different and.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
That run scores and you never know if somebody gets
a basit and drives in one or two more and
then you're not in position for Jiner to walk it off.
That's what I'm talking those things. It's those little silly
things they call that's in the first thing. Just like
we say football, well, the beginning of a season doesn't matter.
It's the end. You're asked, Yeah, they all matter, you
damn right they do. You go oh and four, You

(46:15):
got to go oh and four in September. Good luck
in December. So the same thing here. Screw up in
the first inning, it'll have a it does. Just like
when they jump out in front and al two Vay homers,
they usually go on and wine. They gave up the
home run yesterday, but fought their way back and end
up winning in the end, and co Coochie gets the
seven strakeunds. But his best play, i mean, his best

(46:35):
party yesterday was at to save that running home play,
which seems so elementary at that time, ends up being
a difference in the end of the game.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Yeah, no question about It's talk to Alex. Welcome to Alex,
Good morning.

Speaker 7 (46:49):
I have a question, what's with this new habit that
the manager is engaging in where in the fifth inning,
with two outs, no runners on base, just had a
double play, there was an our last this is last

(47:10):
night's game. There was an error from Altu. They wasn't
even Katucci's fault. Why are we pulling our picture with
one remaining.

Speaker 18 (47:23):
Out in the.

Speaker 7 (47:27):
Fifth, fifth inning. I'm not getting that. And this is
not the first time it's happened, like three or four
times in the last couple of weeks. Can you explain that?
What's the logic of doing that? Even with it with
a high pitch count and we had what's his name
in there fromberg Ghetto I think he had eighty three

(47:50):
and he had the same treatment, got pulled with one
out remaining to finish him.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Thank you, Alex. So you have the situation, Sean that
he's talking about is Joe A. Spota pulled Kokuchi in
the fifth and they had Boston had had what Masataka Yoshida.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Pinch hitting and lefty on lefty.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
They don't play him against left handed pitching, Yoshida against
right handed pitching. Nine to sixty oh, ps, so they
throw him in because they pull Kokuchi. I don't know,
it was just a weird decision for me against Wong
had been really good right, but yet if you had
the lefty on lefty matchup, Yoshida does not play against

(48:41):
left you because he's so bad against them.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
But it just he's had hard time against left lefties.
It's it's terrible, like they literally.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
I think there's been a but hasn't he made these
decisions a couple of times this year we've seen it
that I think if there's one thing you say, it's
a little bit. If if there's if anybod he's questionable? Why,
like the caller just did there are I mean making
decisions like this? You say, well, what is it? I
guess you can only think that you didn't think that
he could get through the battery the hitter right? Did

(49:12):
you feel like he was starting to waffle and and
waiver and and uh struggle kkouche. I don't know he,
like I said, when they're down there in the field,
get a feel for I don't know why, but you
would have liked to see him pitch to Yes, she
you're right lefty on lefty and for a guy who
struggles against lefty. Yes, but maybe there's something that said,

(49:33):
well we got to get I don't know why, And
that's I think the question. The biggest question people have
had on are some of the in game decisions like
what do you for all managers or why when it
comes to the pitching staff, why fresh inning? Why not
let him finish all those things on a matchup. I
don't have the answer. Yeah, they don't. We don't get
to talk to him.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
No, it's got to be something analytical. Game plan to
me is something that one tells me. It's something they
read on a piece of paper.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Yeah, that's for me, Like these are going to be
the decisions that are going to make or break the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
They've looked at it.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
And said in the past, but he can't have a
long pass with with Yoshidah because he hasn't been haven't
been in major leagues very long right this year two right,
so it can't be a bit a long past something.
And something in some metric they got right said or
in his voloc whatever it was it was going on,
said get him out right.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
So I can't answer it for I wish I could.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
And then also going a little bit further into the
Yoshida thing. Since he's been around for just two years,
they should have. Whatever numbers they do have, they should
have because Kakuchi was in the Al East that you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
So it might not be long, but it's celebrated bats
or four at bats, whatever it is. You've got to
go with the only thing you see, and if he
those at bats, if those at bats you see, well,
he struggles against left hands, but he hammered him in
that game. Because I'll tell you one thing that Kakuchi
has not done well. He he did not pitch well

(50:59):
against Austin in the American League. So if I'm not mistaken,
I think he struggled against the Red Sox all the
time period when he was in Toronto. I think you
take a look. I'm pretty sure that I did that.
I'm correct on that. So maybe you get to a
point at that point where you're like, OK, it's trying
to make a switch. But I don't think the Red
Sox have been his favorite matchup since he's pitched in

(51:21):
especially in Toronto.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
You say Kakuchi versus the Red Sox in his career,
Zho to three with a six point seventy five e R.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
He struggled against them, and maybe they got to the
point where they said, Okay, this one's real again.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Move on, like as in his last three outings versus
the Red Sox when he was not a part of
the Houston Astros ten point three eight e r A,
ten point three eight e r A eleven point twenty five.
Didn't even get out of the fourth inning in any
of those last three outings when he was with the
Toronto Blue Jays. So yeah, not very good against the

(51:57):
Red Sox. But he pitched, I mean pitched pretty well
last night.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Yeah, he did.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
Just your defense didn't help you out and he started slow,
but he found a way to gather himself right. Yeah,
so good for him. Seven more strikeouts. He's been pretty
good swinging misguys since he's been here, which is a
big reason why they go.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Nathan just tweeted us and said, uh, SPO, I'm assuming
he means Joe Spota said last night that Connor Wong
had a great had great numbers against Kokuchi historically. He's
also said he loved the matchup of Scott versus YOSHIDAA.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
It's not so much he disliked the Kokuchi Yoshita thing.
He loved the Scott versus Yoshida. Well, it didn't work
out because he had home runs. So let's figure that out.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
And he can he can swing the bat now, yeah,
when you get him the right matchup. But that happens.
Yoshida is no chopped liver. Okay, he's no door knob either. Yeah,
but then you all love a player.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
But then also, I mean, if you look at if
you if you look just in the game against see
I guess this is where fuel and stats come into
play for me, like if I if I'm looking at my.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
Test an emotion as opposed to a piece of paper.
These all beforehand, because the metrics tell.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
You Loong was zero for two on the night.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
In the app bats against Kokuchi were not very good,
meaning Couchi got the best of him. So you take
the gamble of you want to bring in Taylor Scott
to face the lefty instead of doing the lefty on lefty,
or you'd rather have I don't know, man, that's that's
the fuel and analytics and.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
Last nights didn't work right, and it happens. Yeah, all right,
let's get get to the stake. Out next.

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Speaker 20 (55:23):
No, no, now, you know.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there?

Speaker 21 (55:32):
Now?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
This Salsbury's takeout.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
Salsbury's takeout on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
It's time for the steak out here on the Seawan
Salisbury Show. Sean Brown and Triple Lee Astros win last night.
Back in action tonight, I'm into May Park seven to
ten to the first pitch, six o'clock on Deck show
or get to the steaout question.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Let's talk to John Sattening. John, Hey, guys, good morning.

Speaker 11 (55:54):
Uh Hey, Cacuccie really showed me something last night the
way he powered through this.

Speaker 14 (56:00):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (56:00):
I mean, I've never seen an Astros game where every
infielder made an error. And uh, I mean despite all
of that, he came up with big plays like you
all had mentioned, like you know, the one at home
and all that, and you know that everything is trending
really good at the Astrols, Like when you look at
the top of the order like uh Belberg and and

(56:22):
Henter Brown they're both at the top, you know, and
wins with ten each uh at e r A. Hunter
Brown is first and h Fromberg is second and and uh,
you know, opponent slugging percentage and quality starts and all that.
So everything's trending really good. Uh, you know, and I
really like that. And then finally, do you think Mattress

(56:45):
Mac could come up with something, you know, for somebody
that sleeps on the wrong side or something like, you know,
he could call it the breggy bed or something, you know,
like a cocoon or something.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
I was just wondering if somebody can if somebody can
do that and figure it out, it's Mattress Mack.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
I would imagine.

Speaker 11 (57:01):
That's what I was thinking, you know, you know, just
kind of like a cocoon or something, so you don't
really roll over on the side.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
Of the bed or stick that elbow in like a
in like a in like a cushion form. We just
rested in there like an armrest, but it gets tucked
deep inside and pat it around.

Speaker 12 (57:16):
It.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
Not a bad idea as long as you're sleeping on
your back there, you go.

Speaker 11 (57:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know if the missus would
like it, you know, honey, I'm not going to miss out.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
That's right, that's right, honey. My elbow is more important
than anything right now. Got to get this right there
you go, Yeah, honey, it is for the team, right,
you know, exactly right?

Speaker 11 (57:35):
But uh yeah, I was just anyways, I was just
I was just wondering about that. But hey, great show
and that was that was a huge win last night.
By the way they powered through everything that went wrong.
It was really something and Kakucie really showed me a
lot in that game.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
I was very impressed.

Speaker 5 (57:51):
Would you thanks, John, great stuff, man, appreciate it. Would
you learn more if, Bryan, if if they win five
to nothing last night? No, I mean they've made four
a test their metal and still win. Yeah, And to
be able to have the wherewithal to take care of
your business late overcome with somethink was the wrong decision
to pull out Kokuchi at that time. All these things

(58:11):
that come into play. But as you know, the closer
we get to the end of the season and the
closer you roll towards the playoffs, guess what that means.
Every decision that's made by a manager, by a pitcher,
every pit it's heightened. Especially now listen in Chicago, who's
by the way, been mathematically eliminated? Correct they right now?

(58:31):
It's not They're wondering how good Caleb Williams is going
to be. Right, that's where their focus is and on
the Cubs right now, and unlike the White Sox unfortunately,
So with that, their decisions are let's just get to
the end of the season as little closer it gets.
What do we judge most players by how they are
and clutch in moments when things aren't going well in

(58:52):
pressure filled moments, and managers as well, so I players
and team A decision like the one with Kokuchi will
have to be made in the postseason, and those are
which you're those are really.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
What you're what you're judged on.

Speaker 6 (59:04):
It really is.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
If I said what happened in Game five of the
regular season, would you know? But you will know game
five of the World Series or ALCS right, a decision
that was made, just like you mentioned about A. J.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
Hinch's decision to seven the World Series? Damn right? Yeah,
well how about Tampa's decision? Yeah? Put Blake Snell? How'd
that worked for them? Did it probably cost him a
World Series?

Speaker 1 (59:28):
It did?

Speaker 4 (59:28):
He was cruising. That's exactly I test.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
But sometimes the I test in the paper test, right,
So yeah, so those decisions will be heighten, and they're
important to go down the stretch because you would hate
to lose a game because of four errors and still
being in position to win. But you made a bad
choice and you got to live with them. But they're
heightened like games like this as we start to creep
towards the postseason. So it ended up working out well,

(59:51):
But I learned more about them last night again than
I would have if they had won six to one.
Resilience is the number one thing this team has over
the last day years that I've watched them play. Yeah,
I know it's overused, but it is a fact, right fact.
That's what we didn't see in the beginning, absolutely at all.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Let's hear what Jordan Alvarez told Yiner Diaz before that
walk off all my teasa a couple of times. We'll
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Salisbury show continued here from Yiner Diaz.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
After that walk off bomb, he said that Jordon Alvarez
told him something. Well, what did Jordon say? This is
what it sounded like, Diaz was, swing.

Speaker 22 (01:02:13):
It a hot club.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Oh yeah, okay, this is the Red Sox call. That'll
work too.

Speaker 22 (01:02:18):
That ball game, Yadas, going way downtown. They one at
five four with one out in the bottom of the
ninth inning.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
You just punched out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Yep, you're down on three pitches right first pitch of
this kid.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
All right, well that was uh that's Red Sox product, correct, Yeah, yeah,
got him. Hey how's that the way it started? Duran?
Uh huh the way it ended?

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
Yeah, started with the swing at the bat and ended
with a swing at the.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Bat, right, Yiner bomb? Can you get those in the bar?
You wanna give me? To everyone in the BOFY go
and say give me a iron bomb? Well they know,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 23 (01:03:05):
What what was that?

Speaker 8 (01:03:05):
Third?

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
What did you want? You wanted a Yner bomb? Yeah,
gotta have one. I have a er bomb, so I
got Now we have what you said, I think, Yeah,
triple let's let's go ahead and get that one fired up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Hey what is jord On Sadie?

Speaker 6 (01:03:18):
Right there?

Speaker 15 (01:03:19):
Before that?

Speaker 24 (01:03:19):
A d.

Speaker 12 (01:03:25):
He one thing?

Speaker 25 (01:03:34):
On timing?

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Then, yeah, you know, I asked what the pictures were doing.
The only thing he told me was like, hey, just
watch your timing.

Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
That's the only one he's gonna get you out with
the timing. And that's when I went out there just
trying to make sure that I was right.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
There with the timing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
For me, that's a Yainer talking through his translator.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
To time that leg kick against Kenley Jansen, Right, Yeah,
Jordon said that only trump get that front foot in
the ground and let's go. Only the only way he's
gonna get you out is by his timing. So basically,
Jordon said, Kenley Jansen, you're a punk bitch.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
That's what he says. Yeah, that's what That's what I
read between the lines here.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
That's what you saw that force in those trees you said,
So what he meant to say was already meant to say.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
It was yin or could you pass the sugar?

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
Exactly what came out was hey, man, hey, Kelly Jansen's
a bitch and the only way he can get you
out is your time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Is that weird?

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
That's what you said. That's what's what I heard. It's
amazing how it gets lost in translation. But it's like
you always say, you got to see the forest through
the trees.

Speaker 26 (01:04:29):
You do.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
And the truth is, Kenley Jansen spends a lot. I mean,
it's odd, but you've seen him enough to know that
hesitation in the middle of his wind up. And I
think that's exactly what obviously Jordan was talking about, time
up whatever, but make sure the foots down and go.
You just got to time it up and and Kenley
Jansen's had a one one hell of a career. But

(01:04:52):
whatever advice, that advice of time it up, that's the
only way he's getting you out.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
And boy did he time it up and hammer it.
Do you know how old Keilen Jansen is? Kelly Jance
got to be about thirty nine, thirty eight. I feel
like he's been in the league for two decades.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
I feel honestly, I feel like, Okay, how many more
years he's pitching? Don't tell me he's thirty two. I
think he's thirty six. Yeah, so he's thirty six. He'll
be thirty seven in September. I feel like he's been
doing it forever.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
He has been in the league since twenty ten.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
Fifteen years, but it feels still longer than that to me. Yeah,
he's been in a lot of big moments, some that
he's survived and some that he's hasn't. And the Astros
have given him a plenty of headaches over the years.
Here's another one, plenty of anxiety and stress. How old
do you think Salvador Perez is? I think about his career,

(01:05:46):
how long he's been in it? How old do you
think so.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Valvador Salvi I like to call Salvi. Uh huh, I'm
gonna say he's thirty four. Good, guess he's thirty four.
He's only thirty four. He's been in the league's at
twenty eleven. It feels longer, though, and my man looks
like he's forty five. Make him drag you off the
field bench. Thirty four. Yeah, and he's been.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
An All Star one two, three, four, five, six, seven
eight nine, ten years, ten years out of his thirteen
year career, he's been an All Star, sour press.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
And has led league in home runs once. Right, let's
see yep, So you had forty eight back in twenty
twenty one.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
So's okay. Is he putting up a Hall of Fame career? Yeah,
you're a ten time All Star. But what's going to
be He's not gonna get to three thousand. It's he's
not a five hundred home run guy. It's going to
be the whole body of work, which will will he
make it?

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
And he's been I mean, he's been really good. I
know he has. I mean, Baseball Hall of Fame is
brutal to get in, though.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Man, he's been one two, three, four, five Gold Gloves,
All Star, ten out of thirteen times, got MVP nods,
Silver Slugger Awards.

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
Can you win it? Can you get it? Can you
win get into the Hall of Fame? I don't know
the answer to this. Can you get into the Hall
of Fame without getting three thousand hits? Without hitting five
hundred home runs? For silver slowly, without having double digits,
Gold Medal Awards, gold Gold Glove Awards and not sniffing
three thousand hits and not never have been an MVP,

(01:07:16):
Never be the All Star Game MVP, Never be regular
season MVP, never be postseason MVP.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
Right, he was a World Series MVP. That's one thing
he got. That's right he did.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
He added that in their last World Series fifteen he
got he was the most valuable player.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
Correct. That helps big time because it came through in
big moments.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
So the question is, does a one time postseason MVP
the same place four more years and kicks ass makes
the All Star team three out of the next four years?
Can you leave a thirteen time All Star off the
or do you do it?

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
But but he'll be right there on the customer. How
many home runs is sal he gonna have when his
career is on?

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
I mean in total right now in his career, Let's see,
he's got two hundred and sixty eight, Yeah, maybe four hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
He won't get sniff three, he won't get to two.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
Thousand hits, Willie, No, he's got fifteen thirty seven, so
right around two grand yeah, is I mean, but you think,
how do you leave him off? He've been a hell
of a defensive catcher and been a really good hitter
with the silver Slugger. It just that that's gonna be
one that you're gonna sit there and say, gosh, he
deserves to get in, but he doesn't. The one the
one thing he did postseason MVP. Yeah, in the World Series, Yeah,

(01:08:25):
in the one times what they get there twice?

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Right, right?

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
So that's it feels to me like two or three
more All Star appearances as Salvador Pez is a Hall
of Famer. I don't know though, because the numbers nowhere
near two thousand. I mean, three is two thousand the
new three thousand? Is that the way we're doing it?
Like with pitchers, two hundred wins is the new three hundred.
We're never getting another three hundred game winner. It's not
named justin Verlander. Yeah, let's see for they'll pitch him

(01:08:50):
long and see what I'm saying, it's going to be
interesting to see. And you know how the Baseball Hall
of Fame voters, God, oh yeah, they make it. They
make it miserable for you at times to get in.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
He'll stay on that ballot, vidor Perez until he can't
be on the ballot anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
To beat what eight more years after he's done or
whatever right before, because there's no way to put him
in the first second ballot.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
And then you know, but man alive, see you mentioned him.

Speaker 6 (01:09:11):
He does.

Speaker 5 (01:09:12):
I feel like he's forty, right, he's thirty four. Yeah,
it feels like maybe it's because it's catcher and been crouching.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
We just like he did.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
We think, oh man, he's been grining in this league
a long time. But the truth is he's still got
a handful of good years left. Yeah, he's only thirty
four years old. I would have thought Candley Jansen was
closer to forty than thirty five.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
The same.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
I still can't believe that he's only thirty four years old.
All right, let's get to break. Will continue to talk
about these Houston Astros. Luis Garcia update on him. Also
Lance per Cullors Junior and Kyle Tucker. A lot of
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Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 5 (01:11:09):
That's goodful.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
The ville what do they call it? I don't know,
you don't I thought you were from the Meach Yeah,
Sprank Sprang, but Jersey villages down the down the Beltway.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Yeah, I mean you're from the area.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
It's got all the like tree lined grocery stores and
stuff that that area is not as you and you
got your like your normal like hole in the wall
restaurant is decked like gold plated and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
Yeah cool man, good luck, all right. I hope everything's
okay with you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
I wish you luck. Yeah, No, in your future. That's uh,
that's where I live now. But now I grew up
in the mean streets of us sprank Sprang, so excuse me. Yeah,
we went to a lapressa growing up, went to Carlos's,
so you know. Yeah, man, year didn't come from the
mean streets, Yes, I did. If the east side of

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forty five, ask anybody if you don't know, you don't
go to the eastide of forty five anymore up in
Spring you don't. I wal through there and on your
chest like you're like you're in uh Denzel Washington.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Look of Shawnee Rambo. Yeah right, roll through, roll through
the village? Dog, Is that what you're talking about? You
say you don't go to the east side of Spring Spring.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
No, you don't go to the eastide of Spring Spring anymore. Nope, really,
unless you're going to top golf such a country club
over there by where you are. It's not not anymore.
He used to be man. But he gets a golf cart.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
Yeah, right, and then you get that golf cart rock
like the stepford wise and get those rims taken off
real quick. You walk outside your golf carts on block
You think you think they got a jacked right now?

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
Probably five minutes done. Oh yeah, I kind of like
my truck here. Yeah, like three minutes took all four
every every time, I mean right off the truck. Dude
that's had had it on blocks.

Speaker 5 (01:12:53):
That's within by the time I parked, had somebody else
come in and park in the same area, which was
where a bunch of t was. My truck park next
to you, right and on blocks gone. It didn't take
five minutes for them to roll in and jack that
and get out. That's the craziest. So they were kind
enough to leave the the the lugnuts and stuff sitting
by the by the blocks that they put the truck on.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
They came in the appreciating not ruining the all the
whole chassis. Thanks. Hey, Sean, your truck's on blocks downstairs. Yeah, Charlie, Charlie,
What Charlie's like? Sean will wait till the end of
s I said, tell me, now, shows me a picture.
I said, like, go to get the hell out of here. Man,
you kidding me? So that was it was. It's the

(01:13:35):
mean streets of the Galleria meant streets of Galeria.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Oh my gosh, seven one, three, five, seven ninety. Let's
talk to Ryan. What's up ran.

Speaker 27 (01:13:47):
The heading into work, man, Sean, I gotta tell you,
Spring is rough. Talking you like that is not where
you want to be told, you dogs, especially the other
side of forty five.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
Listen, man, you stay off the Spring where you grew
up in the L B C.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
Mean streets at Esco and went to school in Los
Angeles where I went to school. Uh, you guys, you
guys that that's like I might as well just call
you guys the Rolex neighborhood. That's that's such a country
club side over there. I'm gonna roll in there after
work and just I'm just gonna yeah, I'm gonna roll
right down. I'm gonna go right there.

Speaker 27 (01:14:24):
I'm not saying it's Compton and you can drive through it,
but it's not like it's not where you want to
hang out.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
It's not where that's not I'm going.

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
To the nearest seven eleve. I'm gonna stay on it
right there. Just call people out, go to.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
The go down to the shell station off of Alding
Westfield and tresh Wig and let me know how it goes.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
All right, that's the lug. I'll talk to you guys after.
Good luck out there. Appreciate it right check. I'll put
your GP, you guys to GPS my phone so you
know where to get me. John, appreciate you holding. Good morning.
Who is that who called?

Speaker 21 (01:14:58):
Ryan?

Speaker 15 (01:14:58):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
I love you brother.

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
I'm I don't think I'm gonna roll into that part
of sprank Spring, but I'm not scared if you're scared
of bring a dog man there, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
What's up? John?

Speaker 28 (01:15:10):
Hey, Yes, sir, I got a question for your Brian.
Were at the water cooler just talking. My favorite athlete
of all time is Craig Bideo. Did he play two
positions when he was in the league?

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
Catcher, center field, in the second base? Played three of them? Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 20 (01:15:26):
I was just getting my money, collecting my money from
my guys.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
At the water back man. There you go, Hey, give
us a cut, give us a little bit cut. Dog
how much you man to man?

Speaker 20 (01:15:37):
I was watching the Texas game this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
Man, as a former quarterback, what.

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
Are your thoughts on Daniel Jones?

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
Are you a competent quarterback?

Speaker 17 (01:15:45):
Man? And now hang up to listen?

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
Thank you job.

Speaker 6 (01:15:48):
You know, I think he is.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
He's a smart guy. He just did.

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
He's a little late with this for a guy who's smart,
just you know, pulling the trigger and I think, you
know the injury. Hopefully he'll come out of this because
two years ago it felt like the mix with him
and Mike Kafka the offensive coordinator and Brian Dabele was
perfect for his perfect that he went through his lumps
and finally found the coordinator in the system that fit him.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
Competent.

Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
Yes, I don't think he's ever going to be a
star in this league, but you see the flashes. The
guy straight line speed is one of the facts. You know,
we talked about this straight line speed.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
He can run.

Speaker 5 (01:16:24):
He's a smart guy. I mean, you don't roll through Duke,
which is a good academic school, and not have a
football like you. I think it's a hard city to
play in. They haven't had great weapons and who always
falls on two people head coach quarterback. So I think
Daniel Jones this will be the year that he's either
going to solidify that he's a starting quarterback for more

(01:16:45):
years to come, or he's going to be in the
scramble mode of Okay, I got to find a new
place to play because he and Brian Dables' job in
New York may very well depend on how they performed
this year.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
So I think I do. I think Daniel Jones, you
can't have the season he had two year ago and
not be competent quarterback. It's a great question, John, it is.
I think he is.

Speaker 5 (01:17:04):
I don't think he's a star in the league. I
think he's a guy last in the league because he's
got experience and got a lot of it early. Maybe
there's a new perspective coming out of this injury and saying, Okay,
I've got to refocus on the things that I don't
do well, and I think the whole entire team does.
They've got to be better protecting the quarterback, and they've
got to get back the way we're two years ago,
And how do you overcome Barkley Now being in the

(01:17:24):
division with Philadelphia and you don't have that weapon on offense.
So I don't think you're ever going to see him
as superstar in the league. He's going to be one
of those guys that do you say, damn, he can play,
and then the next week, what in the world happened.
I think he sits somewhere in between that so competent, yes, star,
no Danny Dimes.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Baby.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
I think he's better than a lot of people give
him credit for. But I don't think he's going to
validate being a top ten pick in the NFL draft. Yeah,
to the point where you're like, when you pick somebody
in the top ten at quarterback, you expect them to
be a Pro bowler to give you a Super Bowl chance.
I think he catches a lot of if he was
doing this in a smaller in somewhere else in Detroit,

(01:18:04):
I think some people still like, well, some people would
hold and say he's better than he is. It's hard,
even when you're successful, it's hard to win, and it's
hard to be a star in New York. I mean
when I say star, I mean the biggest media market.
There's what I mean is hard to sustain greatness because
one bad game and.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
Now they're they're harsh on you.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
Right, You've got to be thick skinned as all hell
to play in that part of the country, and their
expectation high. The Giants and Sims and the name is
of the past, they expect even over the years, the
last handful of years, they haven't exactly dominated sports in
the football realm, but they their expectations for their media
and their players, especially dan when you're picked in the

(01:18:45):
top ten, they expect more out of him. And Dania
Jones a good player, Dania Jones will never be a
superstar in the league, I don't think. Yeah, plus that
contract he's got and when it happens when you throw
three picks, then you don't live up to it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Yeah, after one game they're ready to replace. Yet.

Speaker 5 (01:18:58):
Yeah, you know you can have the love there for
DeVito is a local kid and they love him. But
Dimes is a better player than Danie Jones, a better
player than Tommy DeVito. Yeah, he just the sustained Consistency's
hard to do and coming off an injury, he's got
another challenge now this year.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Let's let's talk Texans. Alziz al Shair talked about the
defensive culture for the Texans.

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Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
University of Houston gets their new athletic director. Eddie Nuoni
has coming over from the University of New Mexico. We're
gonna switch over to Texans before he gets to that's
doctor Robert. Been holding for a while. Robert, thanks for all.
Good morning.

Speaker 29 (01:20:14):
Yeah, good morning, guys. I'll make it quick. I just
got a text from a buddy of mine. He said,
good job by the Three d's last night, Diaz, Dubon
and Dana brown Man. And what he's saying is you
say he's really I think everyone's optimistic about him.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
He fought through those areas and.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
He walked off. I don't know who caught last night.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
I don't know if ds pinched it, I wasn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:41):
Taranta and Karatin he was catching, Diaz was at first base, gotcha, gotcha?

Speaker 6 (01:20:45):
Okay, And I guess Karantini made an error, but they
got out of the inning.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
And you say, went over and put his arm around him,
and just I don't know what he said, but.

Speaker 6 (01:20:55):
Just seems like.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
Everything's every things coming together. The team is playing well.

Speaker 29 (01:21:03):
You say, you know when you have a when you
go out there and and uh, you feel like your
team's gonna battle back and fight for you, and and
and and get some bass hits and score some runs.
At just the baseball is such a it's such a
great game. And uh, Brian, last week we were talking
about it's a game of inches.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
It's a lucky game. Just like that.

Speaker 29 (01:21:24):
Sean's like the catcher's got to be able to be catcher.
When he made the play on you were done at
the plate. I mean he's just being catcher and his
knee accidentally gets in the way. It's a game of inches,
and yep, he's out at first. You know, everything's coming
together with the Astros, but everything's coming together in life
with football coming up and close to the postseason. Then
I'm still jealousy all for the job y'all have. But uh,

(01:21:47):
I uh, I want to say one thing real quick.
I watched uh and Sean may ask you this because
I'm forty five, didn't really get to see him play,
but I watched the documentary on Pete Rose on HBO yep,
and what a interesting character who's got definitely had did
have struggles through his life with gambling. But did you

(01:22:09):
in in the World Series and there's Game six and
then Cincinnati came back in Game seven with the Red Sox.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
I know you may watched every watch every pitch.

Speaker 29 (01:22:19):
Yeah, I didn't really you get I didn't realize the
uh the Reds came back and wanted But I'll hang
up and listen what and y'all don't have to obviously
y'all can talk about whatever you want to. But does
Pete Rose belong in the Hall of Fame? What do
you think about him? And appreciate y'all thre what y'all
do every morning.

Speaker 5 (01:22:36):
Thanks, but appreciate you, Robert, thank you. You know, controversy
or not, Yes, Pete Rose. We we should put a
plaque in the Hall of Fame that explains why Pete
Rose was delayed to get the Hall of Fame his
path there. Gambled, it's a manager on baseball, blah blah blah.
I think we're a country that I know that the

(01:22:58):
on the you can't gamble. And there's people who will
disagree with me on this. He gambled, he cheated. Can't
put him in same thing with the steroids. I understand
people make mistakes, and I think Pete for a while
there because of his arrogance and constant stubbornness, and I've
talked to him about this. I think he knows that
put him in a bind and behind the eight ball
with baseball denial and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Pete Rose and I finally talked to him and he
told me this.

Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
He goes sean, He get to the point, and I
know it still matters to him because Pete Rose is
a friend of mine and we have spent time together
and we've shared times laughs in Hawaii, sitting in Kapalua,
and we've spent the reason why just all over talking baseball.
I can tell you this, nobody loves baseball more than
Pete Rose. Still, the guy loves baseball as much as
any human being I've ever been around. He played like that,

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so you can listen. I don't begrudge anybody who says
Pete Rose doesn't belong.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
I get it. Broke rule.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
I think at times we break rules that were that
if we didn't have rule breakers, we wouldn't have new
heights to get to. It's laws he can't break. He
broke a rule, and in truth in baseball, it was
a law and he and he. But I also think
there's a time we forgive people who do stupid stuff
in society. All the time, pet Rose made a mistake,

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and I just think there comes a point in time
when I believe he served his time with this because
on the field, the numbers don't lie. The guy had
three thousand singles. Okay, well you know we know that
there's four thousand pluces, three thousand singles. Pete Rose loves
and I know Pete will get to the point and

(01:24:34):
he says when we had this conversation, he's a Hall
of famer.

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
They're just not recognizing it. In the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 (01:24:40):
He won't have the bust there, and maybe one day
he will. But Pete Rose, there's not a soul that
can't say Pete Rose is a Hall of Famer and competitive, tough,
played five six different positions and All Star of many
of them. I know he's there against bothered somebody the time.
Pete Rose has been nothing but great to me.

Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
I love him.

Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
One of the great stories tellers of all time. We
will have him in this studio for a couple hours
or a full show talking baseball at some point, whether
it's not. And he loves football and as well witness
he loves all the sports. So yes, he belongs in
the Hall of Fame with a plaque that describes why,
the struggle, what happened. But you can't take the baseball

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ability away from the Guy's a great baseball player and
still to this day, when I tell somebody you want
to learn how to play, watch that guy, the way
he ran and hustled on the field, Pete Rose, I
mean so yeah for me and I get arguments and people.
I'm not mad at somebody who disagrees with me, because
there's a lot of people friends of mine who say
absolutely not, I get it. I'm more of a I

(01:25:39):
think he served his time. I wouldn't be saying this
two years after, but his performance in baseball on the
field makes him a Hall of famer.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
I don't think you can deny that. You can't, but
you can fight over the air against in his denial
and all that.

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
But there also comes a point of time where it's like,
hasn't he served his time? If somebody serves twenty five
years doing something and they get out, have they served
their time? Be a little cautious about him, but they
served their time right. They did exactly what they were
supposed to do, made a mistake, paid for it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
Here they are.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
Pee Rose, made a major mistake, a conscious one got caught.
Has served as time. I believe there should be a
bust in the Hall of Fame with Pete Rose on
it and a plaque explaining why Pete Rose.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
Remember this is a shrine.

Speaker 5 (01:26:19):
It's to talk baseball without without the explanation about Bonds
or Clemmens. How is how do you consider it a
full hall of fame if there's not an explanation. There's
good guys, there's bad guys. There's guys who make poor
decisions along the way. I don't know about you, Brian,
but I believe Pete Rose belongs in the Hall of
Fame with an explanation as to why First of all,
it took this long, But why tell him what Pete

(01:26:41):
Rose did? There's nothing wrong with that and his bust
sitting right there like all the great players. Because if
I said, name twenty five players who belong in the
Hall of Fame, regardless of what they did, what are
you saying about Peter?

Speaker 4 (01:26:50):
Is he in first twenty five? Yeah, he's a hit.
He's a hit, and no one's going to touch that.
That's an ever. They'll never sniff it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:57):
So I just to me, he's an Hall of Fame,
and it's okay to have the argument that you don't
want him in there. I'm not defending as a friend.
I like him, but I do get the argument why
he shouldn't be. I just believe he should. Maybe part
of that emotion. I'm just going on baseball merits. Served
his time, and his baseball merits go. He's as qualified
as anybody to be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
So, Steven, hey, morning, guys, how y'all doing fantastic? What's
on your mind?

Speaker 7 (01:30:29):
Hey?

Speaker 17 (01:30:30):
So, so last week, I think it was Thursday, there
was a lady that called in and you guys were
talking about Joe Spotta. Now he was most likely going
to win Manager of the year.

Speaker 6 (01:30:39):
Uh.

Speaker 17 (01:30:40):
And I thought about it last night and I've never
called in before, but this made me call in. She
was saying that, you know, she felt like Joe Spotta
was just going to kind of win manager of the
Year by default, right, like your pitchers are going six innings,
give me quality starts. Now the team just kind of gelling,
and therefore he's gonna win it by default. But man,
he's making some great decisions this year, like when he

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pinched hit for singles. When he pitch hit singleton last night,
I immediately thought of her, and I was like, if
this pays off right here, this is what's going to
turn the game on its head and we're going to
win this game, you know.

Speaker 18 (01:31:11):
Uh.

Speaker 17 (01:31:11):
And you know there's a lot of things that managers
do behind the scenes, right, Like you got a lot
of egos in that clubhouse, and to keep all of
that managed and just keep this, you know, with with
all the you know, the the play, you know, how
how the season started for us this year, you know,
to bring this team back to where it's at. Man,
I think Joe A. Spotted deserves a lot more credit

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than just winning it by default.

Speaker 7 (01:31:35):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
Thank you, Steven. Yeah, I think, uh oh.

Speaker 5 (01:31:40):
If they go on to win the division after all
this win the division, I understand that the you know
what's going on in Philly, what's going on in Baltimore,
I guess San Diego, I get all that. But I
can tell you that none of them have overcome with
Listen with a spot of what do you like some

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of the in game decisions he's made, You're gonna make
Listen one hundred and sixty two games. Bruce Bochi's making
bad decisions at some point, the great ones all are
it happens. You just limit those and make more good ones,
and then you have good players. That helps they matter
of fact, good players can cover up bad decisions at
times as well, and a good manager can put his
players his number one job, put his players in the
best position to succeed, that's the number one job, and

(01:32:20):
let them go win games for you. As much flack
as Joe spot It deservedly so took at times, but
also he deserves the credit as well. He never changed
his personality. So if this thing continues and they win
the division, considering all the injuries, how in the world
is he not the manager of the year.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Yeah, that's the whole thing. Whether you want, whether you
you'd vote for him or not, it's that's not the point.
The point is is that. And I get why some
say default because they're getting better.

Speaker 5 (01:32:47):
But part of getting better, part of getting better as
a manager who instills confidence. Listen, when it got when
the team's not going good, do we do we criticize
a manager. Of course we do, yes, So when they're
going good, don't they deserve credit as well? Yah, player's
still got to play exactly, So we said it with Dusty.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
It goes on.

Speaker 5 (01:33:07):
I mean, look at what Dana Brown's done with the Kakuchi.
Even no one he was going to take heat for it.
Boo made the decision and it was the right one.
So far four starts in for him. So I just
I think it's hard to win manager just by the manager.
You're just by default by be having good players. But
a lot of those good players hurt. I get both sides,
But to me, if he wins Manager of the Year,
you have to take into account ninety two wins and

(01:33:29):
manager of the year or whatever they're going to get to.
Ninety two wins and overcoming injury after injury, and your
best all around player has missed sixty plus games and
by that time it maybe eighty. I just think that
there's I get because I'm frustrated with his game in
game stuff at times.

Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
Brian, I know you are too. Yeah, we've we've talked
about that. Have you not really not frustrated times with
Dusty's Maldon.

Speaker 5 (01:33:55):
It happens all of them, it does, So this to
me would be as impressive as season regular season they've
had eight years.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
I just considering, I feel like you don't have Hovier,
you don't have her Keety, Kyle Tucker's been out. You've
had to rely JP Frantz is not around. Justin Verlander
has missed a bunch of time. You've had to rely
on guys like Spencer Arraghetti, Renel Blanco. You've had to
have spot stars from Sean Dubin. You've had to have
a rejuvenation by Hunter Brown.

Speaker 4 (01:34:22):
Hunter Brown, who was atrocious at the beginning, You're back
into the bullpen, wasn't very good. You were twelve and
twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
Now you are five games ahead in the Al West,
and you also you are also just four and a
half back of the number one seed in the American League.
I understand that players have to play and they have
to execute. At the end of the day, it comes
down to the players. But the manager has play, right,
there's no doubt. But you have to give credit where
credits due in as it stands right now, Vaught or

(01:34:50):
Voight or however you pronounce his name. For the Guardians,
he's probably the leading candidate to win Manager of the
Year because they're really good today. But Joe spot has
got to be in consideration because of all of the
injuries in the turnaround of this team has gone through.

Speaker 5 (01:35:03):
And both of them in their first year as manager,
right right, Yeah, there you go, within your first year
as they're rookie managers.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
It's it's listen. He may not win it, but he
tell you right now he's getting votes. Oh he should,
and he's.

Speaker 5 (01:35:17):
Gonna he has a chance depending on what happens the
rest of this year, these last forty games or so,
it'd be hard not to consider him because well, twelve
and twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
And not healthy. Yeah, I mean, look at all pretty injuries.
He's done some good things.

Speaker 6 (01:35:35):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:35:35):
Ryan Presley's now on the il.

Speaker 5 (01:35:37):
He's overcome it seems like he's overcome at times the
buddy buddy thing that you were friends with him. I mean,
there is that line of I'm the manager and not
saying he's saying it, but players have to respect that,
and they've all started to fall It's things are rolling good,
as you know.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
We can see day to day.

Speaker 5 (01:35:52):
They're winning games they wouldn't have won two months ago,
and they're getting unbelievable performances from guys that you didn't
expect to give you unbelievable performances and some that you
did that fell off that At one point in time,
we were like a week away. It felt like Hunter
Brown going to Triple A.

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
Yeah, and now they're pitching so well.

Speaker 5 (01:36:12):
He can't be the ace here, I got news for
There's twenty teams in this league like to have him
in the first or second starter on there. And at
the end of this thing, I'll be shocked if he's
not rolling out second in the postseason. Yeah, shocked, And
that's Verlander healthy. I'll be surprised if Hunter because right now,
who do you, I mean, I know the experience, who
do you right now? If he was healthy and hopefully

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it'll be out, We'll see how the rest goes.

Speaker 4 (01:36:35):
But aren't you I trust Hunter Brown right now?

Speaker 5 (01:36:39):
Yeah, you have to run him out hell, I think
you could make the argument you could push him out
there first if you want it. Depending on the matchup
it's going to be fromber I'm talking about the postseason
kicks in.

Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
He can't be you, He cannot not be your number
two starter.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
You could make a strong argument Fromber Hunter Brown justin Verlanders,
you're one, two three going into the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
If the ail started today, that third body would be Kakuchi,
it would be Cacucci because okay, so let's go over
Blanco and Verlander is going to be in that rotation
because well, I wouldn't say over Verlander because Verlander is not.
We'll find out sooner than later when he's making this,
you know, hopefully on his Wednesday for Wednesday. So to me,

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regardless of how you shape it, Hunter Brown runs out
there second in the postseason. As we sit now, we'll
see what happens and think about that. We're not even
talking about Renel Blanco being the first three and the
guy for the most part, sal helped them salvage a
season with the way he pitched at the beginning of
the city.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
Yeah, look at through three quarters of it. Look at
the Scott stopped. There's no question every time the Ashles
are on a losing street. Renel Blanco, Oh there's a dub.
There's a no hitter, right, no doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
Yeah, but Joe Spott is there's a lot of credit
you had to keep this team together when it could
have folded. And it's a lot of veteran leadership that
helped as well. We'll talk to Scott Scott, thanks for holding.

Speaker 4 (01:37:56):
Good morning.

Speaker 30 (01:37:58):
Hey guys, Uh, just talking about Pete Rose and doing
his time. I was just curious, maybe I missed something,
but it seems like MLB just swept the whole tawny
thing under the rug. But uh, I just don't see
how that that just plays out as nothing happens to him.

Speaker 6 (01:38:18):
But I'll hang up and listen. Great show, go astros.

Speaker 4 (01:38:21):
Thank you real quick, Scott. Okay, Scott does he till
he thinks Peteroe should be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Yeah, but then he brought up the thing where they
just swept under the rug. We we talked about.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
Ain't heard nothing about it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
Yeah, No, it's done with They They basically said he had,
He did no wrongdoing. Case closed is quite literally what
they said.

Speaker 4 (01:38:37):
Let me listen when it happened. The very first day
we had a conversation. What did you ask me? Do
you think he knew? Do you think he did? What'll
happened if you thought he didn't? I like the golden
goose is not being It doesn't matter, you're not going there.
You'll find every reason not to do. And the best
way to do it, like we see a lot of
for the is just sweeping under the car and act

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as if we we got the guy.

Speaker 5 (01:39:01):
You just push it away and you know what, you
know what we call this? Do you ever watch show
that has cold cold cases on it? Yeah, like a
crime show. They just we're just stick in the box.
And maybe twenty five years from now we'll revisit it,
but maybe not. We're just gonna let it go.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
Yeah, because he is the there weren't even if they had,
if they had the sitting in his wallet, you think
he was going down?

Speaker 5 (01:39:24):
No, No, I don't know what happened all the way around.
But no, I don't believe he was fully ignorant to
it either. But we have selective criticism and climing how
we do things. I personally think when somebody served their
time over that and went through what he did, and
if he's you know, got some remorse, which I think
Pete Rose does, and all the times I've talked to him,
if Pete Rose is the Hall of Fame or just

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doesn't have a bust in the Hall of Fame, and
I believe he belongs in there with an explanation on
that plaque why and his baseball is on You cannot
question his baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
He made bad decision, Yeah, but he should be in
the Hall of Fame. Amen.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
And do you know what, throw Barry Bonds in there
to the great centers of all time. I don't give
it a damn about the steroids. I don't care about
the second.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
Does seven Cy Youngs belonging in the Hall of Fame?
Roger Clemmons, Yes, put him in as well.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
These gatekeepers of the Hall of Fame are the guys
that made money off of the steroid use and the
gambling stories.

Speaker 4 (01:40:15):
They made money. Now they're the gatekeepers and they're on
their high horse.

Speaker 17 (01:40:18):
All.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
I'm not going to let in Pete Rose because of
the gambling. Oh, I'm not going to let in Barry
Bonds because of the steroid use.

Speaker 4 (01:40:24):
What's my guy the commissioner during Barry Bonds Milwaukee? Oh
my gosh, glasses. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
and I can't even believe it just slipped me.

Speaker 5 (01:40:32):
But he Budd Seilely, Yeah, Bud Ceilely, if you oversaw
the steroid era, which he did, he isn't Budd Celey going.

Speaker 4 (01:40:39):
Is he a Hall of Famer? He shouldn't be, but
is he? Will he be?

Speaker 6 (01:40:43):
Don't?

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
Don't most commissioners end up in the Hall of Fame,
most of them. Yeah, I don't know if he's been
selected or is. Yeah, he got elected in twenty sevens ago,
So why did he get to be here? So he's
a right Budd celegs the Hall of Fame. Yeah, he
oversaw the steroid here.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
Oh but see in the in the Baseball Haull dot
Org it says that he helped established the toughest anti
drug measures in all the sport. Yeah, that may be
the case, but he also oversaw when they was ramping and.

Speaker 5 (01:41:07):
Right right in his kitchen. So point is is that
put them in and with an explanation, you don't have
to like it. No, there's guys in there that you
may not like it there now, but as far as
baseball goes, those three names right there all belong, and
Hall of Fame and Pete Rose right right with them.

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back out to the phone line seven one three two
two five seven nine. He's gonna do some rapid fire here, tripley.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
We'll hang up on you. Let's keep it Chris, so
everybody can get in. Ray you're up first, Good morning, Come,
good morning. What's up right?

Speaker 7 (01:43:29):
The reason the reason why I'm calling is I completely
disagree with you as far as the steroids usage. Uh,
Roger Clemens his character, I mean, he's terrible, but you
have to also let in cheless Joe. I mean, the
guy was being blackmailed by the mob, and in the twenties,
when you're being blackmailed by the mob, you might as
well get your funeral ready.

Speaker 4 (01:43:53):
But cheulis Joe does belong in he does.

Speaker 7 (01:43:56):
I agree with you on that. But the steroid guys,
I mean I don't have a problem with lying. The Congress.
I mean they're just as bad as the steroid users.
But uh, they lied, they lied to everybody. I mean
maybe I have a higher call him boy lion, but uh,
you certainly can't in let you can't let Clemens in.

(01:44:18):
I mean he would did go to tu So I mean,
what does any of that matter?

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
But what does that matter about? On the field production?
No one's talking about his character for the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 7 (01:44:29):
Yeah, he had the cheat to get the on field production.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
M I mean that's your opinion. I mean that everybody
was doing it, you know what I mean, Well, that
that part doesn't right, But I don't think it doesn't
make it right.

Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
But let me ask you a question. If you found
out just Ray. And I'm not questioning Ray, I'm just
kind of you know what. I love the banter, right,
it makes for good Pete Rose, Yes, gambling sometimes lion
morals v I love it. I think it's great conversation.
I think I learned something from somebody. Why you may
think it and Brian doesn't, or.

Speaker 4 (01:45:03):
Why I do.

Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
Let me ask you this on a golf course. If
you found out Tiger Woods was I'm just using him
as an example because he's so good. If you found
out and you know his grind, Ray, You've watched him
grind and practice all these years. If Tiger Woods, if
you if you what were you gonna say?

Speaker 7 (01:45:20):
I'm sorry, go ahead, I'm not a golfer.

Speaker 4 (01:45:24):
But just bet tiger Woods. You know Tiger Woods and
you know what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:45:27):
And so if you found out Tiger Woods was on steroids,
two of the times he won the Masters and one
time he won the US Open.

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
Then he was using performance enhancing drugs. What would you say?

Speaker 7 (01:45:42):
I would say he cheated? He I mean, what do
you say to the people who are doing it clean?

Speaker 5 (01:45:47):
Oh, I know, I know I'm not saying right, I'm
just saying, what would you say? So it's very similar.
You still got to put contact the ball, got to
keep it straight. I don't know if steroids help you
make putts right, help you hit it farther. I don't
know if they help you hit it straight. My point
is is that I get the argument both ways. Now,
Barry Bonds was a Hall of Famer before he took steroids.

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
I mean the same with Roger Clements sorry four Cy
Youngs before the steroid aer for Roger Clements, right, And we.

Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
Don't know and we don't know who this steroid era.

Speaker 5 (01:46:15):
I mean back when Babe Ruth and those guys were
playing where they taken uppers to stay ready to play
after drinking all night.

Speaker 4 (01:46:20):
Who knows.

Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
But I love the banter because I'm trying to figure
out why why one's good and one isn't for all
of us. Because I am sure the gambling thing that
people made that the worst of them all. Does Pete
Rose belong in the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:46:34):
Absolutely? Okay, I mean he paid it, like I said,
he paid his sentence. And the steroid user people are
still saying I never used right.

Speaker 5 (01:46:42):
So they're in denial as Pete was a long time.
They're in more denial now not admitting it. You know
who made think about Andy Pettitt real quick? Ray Remember
when Andy Pettitt came out and said, yeah, I use
it because I was trying to heal You know when
when when Pettit went he was on the list, wasn't right?
And you know what nobody and I under stand why
nobody criticized Andy right, he got out in front of

(01:47:03):
it said I made a mistake and here's what I
was doing, and now it's all good.

Speaker 11 (01:47:07):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
So you think it would have been different if they
had come out and said, yes, I tried it because
I was trying to heal an injury.

Speaker 1 (01:47:12):
I wanted an advantage.

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
How would you have felt about that?

Speaker 7 (01:47:15):
I don't know if Andy Pettit is tell him the
truth or not. But here's my other conundrum. Uh, do
I think at Josel too be belongs in the Hall
of Fame, Yes, I do, absolutely all right, I don't
think he will so right, I think you will because
of the scandal.

Speaker 5 (01:47:30):
Right, I've talked to a Hall of Fame voters said
he won't vote for him. You think that many voters
are going to keep him out. I don't know, but
I know this one from Boston. I know he will
not vote for him. Yah, and he loves al too.
They just won't vote for him. So there's the day.

Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:47:42):
So even though players have said he wasn't involved, and
I agree with you one hundred percent, Ray, some are
going to say, well, guilt by association, there's no way
he would. There's some of the people vote for me
and say, yeah, but he's in the clubhouse.

Speaker 4 (01:47:56):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:47:57):
That's why I'm acting this question about gambling, steroids, the
stealing signals. Where do we draw the line? Hell'sy al
Twova is a Hall of Famer. I think enough are
going to get him in. But I do think it's
gonna I don't think he's going to be a first ballot.
I think some are going to struggle with it, even
though they shouldn't. I'm with you, one hundred and I
got one.

Speaker 7 (01:48:14):
Last question and I'll hang out because there are other
people waiting. I saw the other day a guy was
wearing an earpiece as a picture to hear from the
catcher or the manager. I don't know, how do you
guys feel about that? To me, I think it's taking
away the spirit of the game. And like I said,
I'll hang up. I'll hang up and let you guys
answer it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:34):
Thanks ray it. It bothers me a little.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
What ear piece? I don't he's not wearing ear pieces,
he said he saw one. No, they don't ear pieces.
And discom has the thing right here in their hats
right now.

Speaker 5 (01:48:45):
If you're inside the hat, so keep it somewhere for me.
If it was, yeah, that would bother me because there's
too much care. There's just like it's just like cutting
off the and you had like in quarterbacks, you got
to cut off the communication like fifteen seconds before.

Speaker 4 (01:49:01):
The ball snapped, right. Yeah, there's no earpiece.

Speaker 5 (01:49:03):
It's the what they have under their hat is it's
the PitchCom thing. They don't get constant They don't get
constant communication their earpiece for like a like a secret
service guy does talking into something but I understand what
Ray's saying about. That's what I'm saying. Think about the discrepancy,
Brian between and we'll roll through these guys next break.
But think about the discrepancy you and I here steroids? No, yes,

(01:49:27):
al twove, Yes, you know what I'm saying. It's just
the fluctuation of it, right, And it's it's not not
sayds right or wrong. Everybody has their different morals or
the way they approach. How much did it help on
the field if Tiger Woods, if you knew he was
on steroids during the two Masters, well would you think.

Speaker 4 (01:49:44):
Different of him?

Speaker 17 (01:49:45):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
Menestly just because he can hit it farther. Still, I
don't know how a steroid helps.

Speaker 5 (01:49:50):
You make a putt right, That's what I was gonna say,
the accuracy, and you still got to contact the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
Do steroids give you an advantage in sports? Do they
give you best? Do they give you vision? Do they
give you more? Might say yes, they give you the
bloody train harder and getting the gym and get it.
I get it, I get all that. See that the argument, however,
you still got to perform on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:50:13):
If I'm taking steroids and I'm an Olympic body builder.
I can take steroids all day, but if I don't
perform in the gym to get my body in peak shape,
what does it matter?

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
I don't know how to pose right right, I'm not
gonna win.

Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
I don't know if I don't know if Tiger Wood's
chipping in from the bunker has anything to do with
I'm not saying Tiger's, but it would have anything.

Speaker 4 (01:50:33):
To do with steroids.

Speaker 5 (01:50:34):
It gets you in the gym more, the recovery is quicker,
all all those things I get, But does it actually
help you see the ball better? Does it actually help
your you know, all those things that go with it.
So those are the questions you got to ask yourself
as you weigh. Well, Pete Rose doesn't belong in, but
Roger Clems does. Barry Bonds belongs in, but Pete Rose doesn't.
Altove belongs in because he wasn't doing it here in Houston,

(01:50:56):
but in other cities they think he was doing it. Really,
it comes down to what a man's word, right, yep,
that a man's word.

Speaker 4 (01:51:04):
Do You can't right see? But you know, like like
we have selective choice, we all do, yeah, we all do.

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
I just I just look at like Ray brought up
Roger Clemens, like seven time Cy Young, he had four
of those prior to the quote unquote steroid era MVP.
He got his MVP in let's see nineteen eighty six.
That's well before the quote.

Speaker 4 (01:51:28):
Unquote that was fresh off him coming out of school.
Really yeah, he was in the league for only two
years at that time.

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
So I mean, you look at these statistics and everything
that he did prior to the quote unquote steroid era
were just unbelievable, let alone. I mean, so I get
the like the moral part of it, but at the
end of the day, like this may sound, I don't know,
like lack of I don't know my moral compass or

(01:51:55):
whatever it is, but morals don't get you into the
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
Your production'll talk about Ty Cobb. Did they say wasn't
a good guy?

Speaker 11 (01:52:04):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:52:05):
Whatever that means?

Speaker 5 (01:52:06):
Yeah, But I get I love the banter, like you
saying if you said, Peter Rose don't belong, And I do,
like it's a great banner, right Like I I it
doesn't bother me if you think it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:15):
I just know I have strong feelings about that. I
hate Trevor Bauer. I think he is an absolute to
jackass Okay, for lack of a better term.

Speaker 3 (01:52:25):
If he was one of the best pictures in baseball
and had that sustained greatness for fifteen sixteen years and
reached three thousand strikeouts, He's going to be a Hall
of Famer, regardless of how I feel about him as
a man, because three thousand strikeouts usually gets you into.

Speaker 4 (01:52:38):
The Hall of Fame, does it not? Oh? Yeah, there
are there are doesn't matter what your morals are, there
are certain points you get to. Now, voters are going
to look at stuff like that because they're the quote
unquote gatekeepers. I mean, we can go into a whole
another We could spend another hour talking about what needs
to be changed with Hall of Fame voters. Is right now,
writers are the gatekeepers.

Speaker 5 (01:52:58):
Okay, well let me ask you this then on the
real quick. Shouldn't we have a gatekeeper to watch the gatekeeper?

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
I agree, I think. I think before this even we've
talked about this before. Hall of Fame voting in Major
League Baseball is the biggest crock of you know what.
They need to revamp it completely.

Speaker 5 (01:53:14):
If a guy cheats on his wife and isn't a
good dad, should he be in the Baseball Writers Hall
of Fame?

Speaker 4 (01:53:19):
You get my part right.

Speaker 5 (01:53:20):
What I'm saying, so, is anybody keeping track of the gatekeeper?
You know that they're paying attention to what's going on, right,
I'm not saying they're not. It's just you know, we
always have somebody watching.

Speaker 6 (01:53:30):
But who died?

Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
Who died and left them the gatekeeper? Who's the old
in those decisions because they got a pen in their hands.
Who's the old school Uh gosh, dang it. The old
school rider that's in it? Might be the guy you're
talking about up in Boston. He was I'll tell you
one about Dan Shaughnessy said on this show Jsel too.
They as we said, right, So there's the guys I
like Dan. Dan comes on the show, left like Dan Shaughnessy.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
You take him you you could probably find footage of
him or some of these old school boomer like uh
like high moral compass that we're probably cutting it up
with those big leaders when they're popping steroids left and right.

Speaker 4 (01:54:04):
Buddy up when you go out and drink beer with him? Yeah,
about the stories from him.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
And now all of a sudden, here we are all
look Mark maguire I was buddy buddy with you.

Speaker 4 (01:54:13):
You were giving me stories left and right. I was
making tons of money and making my career off of you.

Speaker 5 (01:54:17):
I got on TV now now I got on TV
because of my covering and I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
It right right.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
But now here we are thirty years later, and oh,
by the way, I'm not letting you in. That's the
dilemma the gate here, and that's the dilemma. Yes, whether
Dan's that you know Dan, Dan Shaughnessy's opinionated, and that's
just what And I think Dan would probably admit to
you that if he would out a beer said yeah,
you know what I did, but I just have changed it.
He may change this thought process on Altuve. But when
I had him on that last year year before, he said,

(01:54:45):
Sean right now, he goes, I love the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:54:47):
I just I wouldn't vote for him.

Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
He's steadfast part and standing firm with that and maybe
it'll change over the years. But there there's more that
feel like Dan Shaughnessy. Though I can assure you, oh
I can. I can imagine and assure you. And that's
why the gate keep. We also need to check we
keep everything else. We add a little young and are
we adding those type of rioters to it that are
watching all the games. If you're going to vote on
the Hall of Fame, you better watch a lot of
damn baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:55:09):
Sure, I got a lot of respect for their grind
and how hard they work, But you got to put
in the same amount of time the player puts in
in covering that player to know if they're a Hall
of Famer or not.

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This Sean Salbury Show continue.

Speaker 20 (01:57:06):
Hey, what's up my brothers? All right, Sean?

Speaker 17 (01:57:08):
You know you know I'm old school.

Speaker 20 (01:57:10):
I don't know where the lazma at man, it's hyn
I got. I got one old school baseball during the time,
and that's number fourteen. With the Reds done.

Speaker 7 (01:57:21):
You can't, Sean.

Speaker 20 (01:57:22):
You you can make Ana Peters into Mount Rushmore baseball players.

Speaker 18 (01:57:26):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:57:27):
No argument here, brother, I'm.

Speaker 20 (01:57:29):
With you, and I think one of your callers said,
where do you draw the line from me? Where do
you draw a line like Forrest example, the steroids? You
just it's fair to me if you want to scratch
out some of the years that Clemings and Bonds two,
you want to scratch out the last five six years?

Speaker 4 (01:57:47):
Okay?

Speaker 20 (01:57:48):
And now now let's look at the resume. Are they
still Hall of famers.

Speaker 6 (01:57:53):
If you want to say Barry's.

Speaker 20 (01:57:54):
Not the home run leader, and that's fair, you know.
But but Barry Seian. It was forty forty and had
four m vps when he was in Pittsburgh. That's where
he even got the French code.

Speaker 5 (01:58:05):
Yeah, I was gonna say, Okay, so he's got six
hundred home runs instead for fire.

Speaker 4 (01:58:10):
He's still a Hall of Fame. Yeah, I guess it.

Speaker 20 (01:58:14):
Yes, they getting Bill spotted man man, Sean, you could
just see that now that's it's a Spottish team.

Speaker 7 (01:58:24):
Beginning of the.

Speaker 20 (01:58:24):
Year, you would say that's still Dusty's team. The Spottish
trying to find his foot in.

Speaker 8 (01:58:28):
He's trying to find a.

Speaker 7 (01:58:29):
Niche they was.

Speaker 20 (01:58:31):
They struggled a little bit. He was struggling a little bit.
But now it's a Spottish team.

Speaker 6 (01:58:36):
Looks like yep, he didn't put his You could see.

Speaker 20 (01:58:40):
The foot prints, his hand prints on the team. Now
they starting to win the one run games. That was
the issue. That's Spider Man. I you know had to
If you asked me earlier year, Sean, you said, when
do you decide? I said, Man, at the end of
the year.

Speaker 6 (01:58:52):
At the seasons in look can see at the seasons.

Speaker 20 (01:58:55):
Then you know what I'm saying. But yeah, and my
last day, Sean, I don't know if you've seen old weekends, see.

Speaker 7 (01:59:01):
Me, boy, she'd have figured it out. Shot more.

Speaker 20 (01:59:05):
It's all and proper now, boy, Yeah, watch out for the.

Speaker 4 (01:59:08):
Fee I got news for and she already. I mean
she broke the Alzheimer's city if everybody thought she was
just a shooter, right, didn't she break the league assist
record as singles?

Speaker 6 (01:59:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:59:18):
God, she is to me in basketball right now, men
and women, she is the best Pastorless she throws some dimes, man.

Speaker 4 (01:59:26):
She may very well she lived.

Speaker 5 (01:59:28):
Yeah, she may very well be as good a pastor
as there is in basketball period, for.

Speaker 4 (01:59:34):
Men or women. There's no Her court awareness is phenomenal,
no doubt.

Speaker 5 (01:59:37):
Great stuff. Biscuit appreciate you. Hang on to that number fourteen,
Jersey man, I got you. Uh, let's see, we'll take break,
Mark and Randall and David. You know we'll get to
you guys. You guys are always a priority for us,
and thanks to our great calls. I love the banner
man about the differences in what Biscuit loves Peter Rosey and.

Speaker 4 (01:59:52):
Idy two some don't.

Speaker 5 (01:59:53):
That's okay, So it makes it you don't have to
hate the person that disagrees with you or that degrees
with you. You always like them too. But we got
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a lot of Astros talk. Still big win games. They
wouldn't have won early. They're winning late. And Hater's on
fire as his yainer Dias and as is Joe a
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two on two five seven items. Come back out to
the phone lines, Mark, you're up first, Good morning before
going any feather one. All right, I'm not sure what's
going on that connection triple. If you don't mind checking
that real quick from Mark, let's doctor Randall. Randall, thank

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you for allowing.

Speaker 4 (02:02:47):
Good morning.

Speaker 6 (02:02:48):
Hey, good morning man. It's a great show.

Speaker 23 (02:02:50):
You know, steerods only makes you feel better, they don't
make you do better. You know, when Brady come up
for his Hall of Fame, they're not gonna pulled the
spygate against him. Uh, may Lewis was charged with murder.
That's not gonna keep him out the Hall of Fames.
The White gunning and uh there're a strawberry.

Speaker 20 (02:03:13):
About the he brows, berry, burns at and hogs.

Speaker 7 (02:03:20):
In the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 20 (02:03:21):
So they went into the pack.

Speaker 4 (02:03:23):
Uh.

Speaker 26 (02:03:25):
I'm like this for all the sports writers. The vote
for Hall of Famers in baseball. The next time you
catch yourself lusting after looking at a woman, pluck your
eyes at the next time you tell a life, cuts
Tom off. The next time you write something as follows,
cut your paper.

Speaker 6 (02:03:42):
Off because everybody has a fighter.

Speaker 1 (02:03:46):
And that's my take on that.

Speaker 26 (02:03:48):
But I'm impressed with the Houston Ashtros.

Speaker 8 (02:03:50):
They had.

Speaker 6 (02:03:52):
Found and out of half down a clown and uh
ak Hans.

Speaker 20 (02:03:58):
Dusty Baker and uh this bottom.

Speaker 7 (02:04:01):
Now this team that's.

Speaker 6 (02:04:03):
Made a great blunt in that time here.

Speaker 20 (02:04:09):
And I give all credits to all of the crank.

Speaker 26 (02:04:13):
You see three managers and three GM in a time
period like that.

Speaker 4 (02:04:22):
Thank you Randall. He'll of it. Take by Randall.

Speaker 5 (02:04:25):
Those phone was a little jacked up at times, but
I got just the most ninety percent of it. He
makes a good point. Whenever you find yourself, you know,
doing something, then check yourself. Basically good point. It's hard
to argue that.

Speaker 4 (02:04:38):
I love it. See if we can get Mark back
up Mark. Good morning, Hey guys.

Speaker 21 (02:04:43):
Uh, first off, how's else fifth? What your fifth? The
statistic we talked about about a couple of weeks ago
they come up.

Speaker 5 (02:04:53):
With, oh your feel, yeah, your feel, your the what's
that now you came up with? You said, there's a
new stat what is it called in the metrics thing,
you know, like you talk about. Uh, you brought it up, Brian,
I can't remember what it's called.

Speaker 1 (02:05:09):
The fifth?

Speaker 4 (02:05:11):
The fifth?

Speaker 21 (02:05:12):
Yeah, that's what you said.

Speaker 6 (02:05:13):
I said.

Speaker 1 (02:05:14):
The only fifth I know of is fifth of whiskey.

Speaker 6 (02:05:16):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (02:05:17):
Yeah, I can't remember a fifth of whiskey. Yeah, that'll
help you out. I don't remember what the stat you'd
be brought up like one of those. It's like an acronym. Yeah, yeah,
it's an acronym for something.

Speaker 4 (02:05:27):
You know, whatever it is. But yeah, Mark, I think
a fifth of whiskey.

Speaker 5 (02:05:30):
We probably understand a little bit little bird, a little
nice Kentucky take a takeover for whatever that metric is.
They're talking about another statistic in baseball.

Speaker 21 (02:05:40):
Yeah, well, let me say this if okay, they know
about the steroids era, but yet they allow them to play.
They made the team money, they made the owner money.
They should be in the Hall of Fame if they're
good enough to be in with their production on the field.
And one other thing, how, what's the status of I'll
tuck or and.

Speaker 3 (02:06:00):
I'll hang up to think Mark Kyle Tucker was doing
some hot drills yesterday, hitting a little VP in the
cap or on the field, and there's really no update
after that.

Speaker 5 (02:06:12):
And I'll just go with what Brian and I have
been saying for quite some time. I don't think you
have a chance at seeing him before Labor Day, and
I hope I'm wrong. I'm sticking with that. It's the
twentieth of August and he hasn't gone down to assignment yet.

Speaker 4 (02:06:27):
Yeah. To me, he's not going full speed right now either.

Speaker 6 (02:06:31):
Here.

Speaker 5 (02:06:32):
You'll be lucky if you get him by the middle
of September, and you'd probably do somersaults.

Speaker 4 (02:06:37):
The way it looks right now, he's still not running. Yep.
There you go.

Speaker 6 (02:06:40):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (02:06:40):
So and it's a good point.

Speaker 5 (02:06:42):
If you knew they were doing it, then you weren't
had no problem taking money out of there, I mean
filling up stands, dude.

Speaker 4 (02:06:47):
I would go to batting practice m hm.

Speaker 5 (02:06:50):
Like I remember one time real quick in San Diego,
Big Mac was down there and I went down to
I can't remember who they were playing, but I went
down to the cages and we was hung out watching
up close and taking batting practice. He's pumping them off
the you know, the the facing of the third deck
and stuff. Mean, just just hammering balls, right, And you
know what batting practice had to have thirty thousand people. Yeah,

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I had to have thirty thousand people there. I'm telling
you it was and it was every building he went into,
it was a treat, right, it was like I got
to go watch this play.

Speaker 4 (02:07:23):
So to Mark's point, we didn't hate it.

Speaker 5 (02:07:28):
Diged the long ball, that long ball by him, and
so so that you're saved base put people back in
the stands. Yet we're going to we want we want to,
we want you, we need you now. But later when
it's time to reward you, we're going to hold it
against you. Yet we didn't when you were pumping ball,
when we had when people were eating hot dogs during
batting practice and making us all kinds of money and

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spending tickets that they didn't. The game was one thing,
batting practice was another whole game itself. And dude, I'm
just telling you, balls intrigued setting up there close. Just
one simple boom pounded it off the second deck and
third deck, the old Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego.

Speaker 3 (02:08:06):
The Astros were in the NL Central with Sammy Sosa
and Mark McGuire. I mean, yeah, I don't know, would
this be a hot take now now what I know?

Speaker 5 (02:08:15):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:08:16):
Back then during that season, they saved baseball, meaning Mark
McGuire and Sam Sosa with their home run Chase Ye.
I am convinced that Bud Segley knew about the steroids
and he needed it to save them, and they pumped
in juiced baseballs to save baseball because he saw what
the what the attention was doing.

Speaker 5 (02:08:32):
Why would that be high? I think, I don't know,
that's just a hot take. I think that's a spot
on take. Yeah, one hundred percent. He knew always, whether
it come to hitting a baseball, pitching a baseball, throwing
a football, running running track.

Speaker 4 (02:08:45):
Do me one favor.

Speaker 5 (02:08:47):
Follow the coin, Yes, follow the money. If you follow
the money, it's going to lead you right to why
they make decisions that they make or whoever makes them.
It's usually I don't want to put an umbrella over,
but it's usually about that and that's where it starts,
and that's where that that you know, boomerang comes right
back to. If your bud ceely, are you going to
interrupt that. Am I saying something's wrong? No, you're gonna

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say it's all right, and then we're gonna turn around
and punish him with the I'm not good listen, I'm
not the I'm not the good lord judging you a
judgment day. I got my feelings on morals and values
as well, but I do know this on the baseball field,
baseball was in the crapper with Way and McGuire and
Sosa came along and the renewed interest was off the charts,

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and it started in batting practice.

Speaker 4 (02:09:30):
Absolutely as sure as hell did David welcome in Born
and hey, I just wanted to put my two cents.

Speaker 31 (02:09:39):
And I agree with Sean, like with Pete Rose, like,
do you have something to decide explaining how I got there?
Because a few years ago and went to uh Clinton's
library at Little Rocks and there's a section there of
his misdoings in the blue dress, and you know, it's

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just part of the whole history of it.

Speaker 4 (02:10:05):
I'm with you, the history, and it's okay to put
a guy. It's a shrine.

Speaker 5 (02:10:10):
It's a shrine for us to go and to reward
people who've had an unbelievable career that we wish we
all had.

Speaker 4 (02:10:17):
Well, you go in there.

Speaker 5 (02:10:18):
If you tell us what Pete Rose did on that
plaque and he's busters in the Hall of Fame, wouldn't
most people say yeah, man, and then you get to
decide whether you like it or not. But the fact
of the matter is, as a baseball player, Pete Rose
not only is a Hall of Famer, Pete Rose's name
should never be left out. When you mentioned the first
ten to fifteen forget the game, just baseball. The guys

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everybody growing up in my era said, play like Pete
Rose does. That's how they wanted you to play, running, hustling.

Speaker 4 (02:10:46):
Doing it all.

Speaker 5 (02:10:47):
So I'm with you, man. The plaque, I'll always say it.
Put a plaque describing why and what happened, and then
stick a bust in there. Because the guy's got four
thousand plus it's three thousand of them are singles.

Speaker 4 (02:11:00):
The guy belongs in the Hall of Fame. Simple, thank you, David.

Speaker 3 (02:11:06):
When we talk about that nineteen ninety eight season, Mark
mcgoire led it with seventy home runs, Sammy Sosa sixty six,
Ken Griffy Junior had fifty six, and then can you
guess who had I just lost their way to go?

Speaker 4 (02:11:21):
Fifty home runs? He was in San Diego. Fifty home
runs with San Diego'm trying to think of ninety eight.
I'm going through. I'm thinking about the lineup. Wasn't Sheffield?

Speaker 17 (02:11:36):
Was it?

Speaker 14 (02:11:37):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:11:37):
He was after that or was he before that? He
was there? Briefly? What position?

Speaker 3 (02:11:43):
He was a left fielder? Left fielder in San Diego
in fifty that year. Yeah, he was an All Star.
He got voted or he was had some MVP votes,
Silver Slugger. Gosh, dang like left field and DHD. I
know you're gonna at this.

Speaker 5 (02:12:00):
Come on, give me a can give me the first
initial first name is Greg's. It's uh Greg Vaughan.

Speaker 4 (02:12:07):
There you go. He and his brother Moe were both
pretty good. Greg Vaughan was a monster out. That's exactly right.

Speaker 17 (02:12:13):
Power.

Speaker 3 (02:12:13):
Yeah, you think about it. That year, four guys with
fifty home runs or more. Yeah, and then the one
below him Bell Albert Bell forty nine, Vini Canstia forty six,
Jose Canseco forty six.

Speaker 5 (02:12:28):
The tenth guy would have led major League baseball this year,
possibly Judge and those yeah, forty five will put you
in the top three or four this year.

Speaker 4 (02:12:36):
Right, Yeah, Judge has forty four right now. The fact
that he's got forty four home runs right now? Yeah, oh,
Tony's got thirty nine.

Speaker 12 (02:12:42):
I know.

Speaker 3 (02:12:43):
But I mean we're talking about in nineteen ninety eight,
four guys finished when Greg Vaughn. Yeah, one of them
was Greg Vaughn. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean,
like it was a lively ball as well. Yeah, they capitalized.
Don't kid yourself. Major League Baseball capitalized on every dime
they could that year. Yeah, just like in the NFL,
we want offense. That's why we change rules all the time.
You want ten to nine victories. If you're the committ

(02:13:05):
you just do.

Speaker 5 (02:13:06):
You may not tell anybody, but fans want to see
an eight to seven game unless it's a no hitter, right,
you know the worst ones like, oh, I pitched a
down winning but I'm like, for entertainment's the three to
one win that you pitched a four hitter and nobody
got much going on, right, scored two runs of the
first hitting And never get that's the fan who doesn't
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(02:13:27):
is boring. They want the ten to nine game when
in truth that three to one game is usually pretty
damn good, solid baseball being played.

Speaker 4 (02:13:34):
Right, But don't kid yourself that bud se.

Speaker 6 (02:13:37):
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Speaker 5 (02:13:37):
They wanted home runs, long ball and they need something
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peede in your face and told you it was raining.

Speaker 4 (02:13:44):
Later on, he's in the Hall of Fame. He was
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and don't pe in anybody's face. Well, you can tell
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It's true. Like r Kelly, did you know why you
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Speaker 1 (02:15:47):
Why you're back? This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Get
back at it.

Speaker 4 (02:15:53):
Phone calls flying in. Let's talk to Mike. What's happened
to Mike?

Speaker 1 (02:15:58):
Good morning?

Speaker 6 (02:15:59):
How you know doing I watch?

Speaker 8 (02:16:00):
I listen to your show every morning.

Speaker 14 (02:16:02):
That's a pretty good show. And on the sojot about
Joe Sparta, Come on, are you kidding me?

Speaker 7 (02:16:08):
Manager of the Year?

Speaker 14 (02:16:09):
They got to be a joke.

Speaker 17 (02:16:11):
I mean, we have lost so many games because.

Speaker 1 (02:16:13):
Of this guy.

Speaker 7 (02:16:14):
We should be winning by fifteen games at least.

Speaker 14 (02:16:17):
But to me, honestly, he's.

Speaker 7 (02:16:18):
Not no Manager of the Year.

Speaker 3 (02:16:20):
What what what decisions? In your opinion? Mike and we
appreciate your opinion. And what, by the way, real quick,
it's not a pretty good show. Yeah yeah, sure, yeah,
what decisions? Just just give me a couple that he
has made that has lost them the game.

Speaker 14 (02:16:38):
Okay, well, we're not playing aggressive when we need to burn.
He doesn't saying somebody to bump. Look at yesterday and
the eight innings, first and second, nobody out.

Speaker 7 (02:16:47):
He refused to play a small ball.

Speaker 14 (02:16:49):
I mean, we have lost at least in games.

Speaker 7 (02:16:51):
Because of lack of decision of this guy. He's not
no leader.

Speaker 14 (02:16:55):
I mean, the teams don't respect them, the guys. Someone
give me a break when it got mad. Now the
day when he I mean they throw him out. I mean,
to get to that point. You've never seen them to
upset Mike.

Speaker 8 (02:17:09):
This guy doesn't come out, Mike.

Speaker 1 (02:17:12):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:17:12):
Since May first, the Astros are fifty eight and thirty seven.
They are the best team in Major League Baseball since
May first.

Speaker 7 (02:17:19):
I understand that.

Speaker 14 (02:17:20):
I understand that if the wards they're playing, they're hard
up because by management.

Speaker 17 (02:17:26):
And still this guy.

Speaker 6 (02:17:27):
Doesn't have it.

Speaker 4 (02:17:27):
I'm sorry, So let me let me ask.

Speaker 14 (02:17:30):
You're trying, they're trying to win the division to save
their job. Big job and Dana.

Speaker 3 (02:17:35):
White d Dana White's the president of the is the UFC,
you mean, Dana Brown worries and I hate to break
it to you. Look, I understand your your your sentiment
on bunting. But bunting is not in Major League Baseball.
That's just a hard fact.

Speaker 4 (02:17:50):
It's rare anywhere.

Speaker 18 (02:17:51):
Mike.

Speaker 4 (02:17:51):
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 5 (02:17:52):
If they go and win the division by let's say
they win by eight games, will you give credit to
the players and.

Speaker 4 (02:17:58):
Not the manager?

Speaker 14 (02:18:00):
I give, I get pray to the players.

Speaker 6 (02:18:02):
Okay, but if they go, if they if they.

Speaker 14 (02:18:05):
Win the division, I believe they're gonna.

Speaker 7 (02:18:07):
Be out in the first round.

Speaker 4 (02:18:08):
Okay, So tell me where the threshold is of I'm
not saying Joe A. Spot is a Hall of Fame manager.
He's done a pretty good job. He's made mistakes in
one hundred and sixty two game schedule. You're gonna happen.
So where's your threshold of when will you give him credit?

Speaker 12 (02:18:26):
Honestly, I can't.

Speaker 7 (02:18:28):
I can't say you need.

Speaker 14 (02:18:30):
I mean, to me, this guy is just it's not
it's not it's not up to the job.

Speaker 5 (02:18:36):
Okay, if they win ninety games, ninety two games to
go on. And let's say they make it to the
World Series. Will it not be because of Joe's spott
will have no So when they don't win, it's because
of him, But when they do win, it's not because
he doesn't have a hand in. Is that how you're
feeling about him? You just think he's a warm body
that anybody could manage.

Speaker 7 (02:18:53):
Like this Exactly, we're there, We're in the week of division.

Speaker 14 (02:18:56):
I mean, if the other team were playing, great, we're
gonna be in this. But they I mean, that's that's
that's just reality, plain.

Speaker 25 (02:19:03):
Simple, well appreciation Number two and number two I can
say Pete Rose, I believe he should be in the
and the and the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 14 (02:19:13):
One is because everybody makes everybody makes a mistake.

Speaker 7 (02:19:16):
We understand that.

Speaker 14 (02:19:17):
But he kept making the mistake over and over and
that moment he didn't care about baseball.

Speaker 7 (02:19:22):
He cares about his Did.

Speaker 5 (02:19:23):
He make the mistake as a player or did he
get in trouble from gambling as a manager?

Speaker 7 (02:19:29):
As the manager?

Speaker 25 (02:19:30):
Okay, but I believe they're going to put him in
one sick passed when he one heat passed. I believe
the MLB is gonna put him in the Hall of Fame,
but they're not going to give him that pressure while
he's alive.

Speaker 3 (02:19:43):
Right, But that maybe that may be the truest thing
you've said right there. Yeah, So just just real quick, Mike.
So he he bet on baseball as a manager, but
he shouldn't be put in the Hall of Fame because
of his playing playing career.

Speaker 14 (02:19:55):
Yes, but I mean he was he was management the game.

Speaker 3 (02:19:58):
I mean, it's right, but but but but playing in baseball,
playing as a player, that's what'll get you into the
Hall of Fame. Obviously, managers get put into but for
Pete Rose, it's for his playing career, not his managing career.
Do you see where we're the discrepancy here?

Speaker 8 (02:20:11):
Yeah, I understand.

Speaker 4 (02:20:12):
All right, Well, Mike's good, Yeah, just a good stuff.
We appreciate your opinion. Appreciate it. Yeah, Man, that's a
little different.

Speaker 5 (02:20:19):
I'm not Crown and Joe a spot of the best
manager in baseball. But I'm also not saying that they
could that they're doing this in spite of him. Yeah,
there's got to he's got to get some credit for this. Yeah,
he's made mistakes, and we criticized him for him in
the first month and a half, we said too much, Well,
will he be your manager three years from now? Better
get it going, there's no doubt. But also, and then

(02:20:40):
we said it, then, if we're going to criticize it
the thing gets turned around the way they are, then
you've got to be open for compliments and and giving
the guys due credit and his props if he's earned them.
Now they got to go close out because right now
we're only gonna remember if if they don't win it,
you're gonna remember the beginning of the season, the fact
they didn't lose.

Speaker 4 (02:20:55):
You won't remember the in between.

Speaker 1 (02:20:56):
You won't.

Speaker 4 (02:20:57):
But if they did that.

Speaker 5 (02:20:58):
But if they do win it, you're gonna say, look
we're went where he was and look where he went. Yeah,
which is usually the way we want to basically judge anybody.
How'd you start, how'd you finish, and what'd you do
in between to get to that finish?

Speaker 4 (02:21:11):
Good or bad?

Speaker 3 (02:21:12):
Yeah, let's let's get to break Phil Rodney, Andy, don't
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Speaker 1 (02:22:29):
For the Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 5 (02:22:33):
And by the way, to Mike, thanks for the call.
I love people's passion. H huh, But I don't quite understand.
I was very calm about this.

Speaker 4 (02:22:42):
You feel me, Doc, Yeah, I'm picking up your wood now.
I just for me. There's a discrepancy here. There is
very much.

Speaker 5 (02:22:50):
So when you win, it's never the manager. Now, I
believe the player's the batman. We've said in a million times,
you got the ball, you got the bat in your hand.
Most of it's on you. Good orbit, yes, But so
let me get this straight. After all this, you're five
games in front of first place. You've overcome what no
team in baseball's had to overcome this year on the field,
injury wise, just half absolutely, especially to a pitching staff,

(02:23:13):
which is the number one priority in baseball, and a
guy who took a bunch of flak the first two
months started twelve and twenty four, and people were even
talking about firing him before the season was over. You
heard that mentioned on this show by a callers. Not
that they were right or wrong, but they felt that
passionate about it. Yes, which I respect. Yes, And what's
he doing?

Speaker 4 (02:23:32):
Why is this? What?

Speaker 5 (02:23:34):
And we joke about his prescotts say the same thing.
But that's even when when he's still saying the same thing.
He stayed the court, which is, we're begging for our
manager or our coach to be firm in his foundation,
to be steadfast, to gird up his loins, all those.

Speaker 4 (02:23:52):
Phrases you hear, and to stay the same. We beg
for it. When they fluctuate, what do we do say? Well,
he's not calm kind of leaders ad and he's stayed
the course through all the criticism. And now they're five
games in from the first place and are on as
good a role as anybody in baseball. And I'm telling
you there's dangerous as anybody in baseball right now, and
I'm gonna get more dangerous when they get even more healthy.

(02:24:15):
I don't understand how we can say if they win
a World Series, like I asked Mike, and I respect
and appreciate Mike and the nice compliment, but that the
manager gets no credit, but when they lose, he gets
all the blame. According to Mike Correct, I don't understand
the process. I think what that call was he just

(02:24:39):
doesn't like Joe spottle right. He wants somebody, well what
it is? I think I don't know if it's personal,
and you make a good point right for me, it's this,
it's I don't like the way it started. He made
some bad decisions. I'm holding that. I'm holding the hostage
the entire year. I'm gonna hold that grudge the entire
stait instead of judget game to game right right, And
I get it. We all we've all done that. We've

(02:24:59):
all done that. It's some shape or form with whatever
it is, and say, well, okay, he fixed it.

Speaker 5 (02:25:05):
That's part of it. You go into the hood, you
look at it, put the hood down. It doesn't quite work.

Speaker 4 (02:25:09):
You go back in there. Wait, wait a second, man,
what am I missing here?

Speaker 5 (02:25:12):
Boom boom boom. Okay, now now it's starting to work.
So I think Joe Spott deserves a lot of credit.

Speaker 4 (02:25:19):
I think he's still got to there's still some decisions
he's gonna have to make and if he makes some
of the decisions he's made in single elimination baseball, he's
going to catch a lot of hell for it. That's
part of the job and what comes it's part and
parcel to what you do as a manager.

Speaker 3 (02:25:33):
I think there's when when teams lose and you're the manager,
there is blame to be passed along to the manager,
Like if you lose a game because of a bunt
coverage failure. In my opinion, the manager didn't have his
guys prepared for that situation, didn't right.

Speaker 4 (02:25:50):
Didn't uncover every stone and discuss it and work on
it enough. That's a practice thing. That's a spring training thing.
The manager agreed.

Speaker 3 (02:26:00):
When a reliever leaves a fastball middle middle and gives
up a walk off mom last night, that's on Kenley Jansen.
That's not on Alex Cora. For the Red Sox, you
left it up and into a hitter that's on fire.
You missed your spot. That's on the play.

Speaker 4 (02:26:16):
Is that Alex Cora put in his Hall of Fame
type closer and gave him a chance to win it
and he threw a bad pitch. Yeah, it's as high
game happens. How's that on you go to your closer. Right.

Speaker 5 (02:26:28):
Argument you have there is, well why'd you play? Why'd
you put Kenley Jansen? And well, the same reason, our
high priced closer gets everybody out. He's in the first
three quarters of the season. We've been good because he's
been good, and our pitching staff's been good. Now, their
pitching staff kind of tailed off a little bit here
since the All Star Game, and they're hitting is what's
carrying them at least getting them some wins. That's neither
here nor there, but you're exactly right that that's exactly

(02:26:51):
the way it is. It's like in football, if you've
got a team that's undisciplined and constantly getting personal foul
penalties jumping off side.

Speaker 4 (02:26:57):
That's the coach man, absolutely because you're allowing it to have.
But in practice and you're not putting a foot down
safe because I'm the guy. You're going to jump off
sides three times at right guard and you're just because
you're not paying attention. Your ass is coming to sit
by me for a series because you're doing me no good.
No matter how talented you are, you're you're doing me
no good. In this particular moment, I got to do
a better job of coaching.

Speaker 5 (02:27:18):
And now you run deep and we've been working and
I've got you catching a hundred balls on the jugs
machine every single friggin day during training camp. And you
run a post route over the top of the safety
sits down on a dig route and hits you in
the hands and you drop it.

Speaker 4 (02:27:31):
That ain't on Andy Reid, dog on the quarterback.

Speaker 5 (02:27:36):
That's just you lost focus, execution, or quite frankly, you
choked under pressure. Whatever it is the situation. So there
are things that you got to work on. If you
can't put it this way. If now a decision like
you say, you keep a pitcher in one pitch too long,
that's on you. Even though the pitcher threw the ball,
he's dude, he's his velocity's down five miles an hour

(02:27:57):
from the inning before. Get Now, now that comes into
it's both of you, but it's also you for keeping
him in there and you can't see with your own
eyes at the guy's velocity's falling off. So with Joe Espada,
Joe Aspota deserves just as much credit as he took
flack at the beginning of the season more And if
you're not into that if you don't have to love
him for the next twenty years.

Speaker 4 (02:28:19):
But for what we're seeing now, there's very few that
would have done an' I don't know how could you
have done a better job record wise than he's done
these last seventy games.

Speaker 3 (02:28:28):
There are five games eighty games. There are five games
in front of the Mariners now in the AO West.
And I said it earlier, four and a half out
of the number one seed in the American League.

Speaker 5 (02:28:39):
We were a game or a day or two away
from July and the All Star break, two weeks around
the corner, and they were ten games under five.

Speaker 4 (02:28:46):
Yes, ten games under five hundred. You have to give
the manager credit.

Speaker 5 (02:28:52):
Wait, I take that back. They were ten games out, yes,
and that was the biggest thing they got to be.
They got the ten games out of first place at
one point, right, I think it was ten games on
our right and they and in a week they made
up like six games, yeah, five games. So we can
argue it all. It's not even argument.

Speaker 4 (02:29:09):
It's a good banter. Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (02:29:11):
Do appreciate, but I think it's a little bit on
the absurd side to say that when you win, he
deserves no credit, and when you LuSE. He deserves all
the blame. Yeah, that's that's just that's that's impossible. Yeah,
let's put that on him. That's ridiculous. Take one call
and then we'll get to the rest. Next to break Andy,
what's going on?

Speaker 8 (02:29:27):
Hey, we'll leave jo a wrong today. The steroids, steroids
and stuff.

Speaker 6 (02:29:35):
You know, it's really easy.

Speaker 8 (02:29:36):
Let's just let them do whatever the hell they want
to do, and then we don't have to worry about
this stuff anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:29:44):
Now.

Speaker 8 (02:29:44):
You guys know that when they started breaking cracking down
on ster wards, that you got these guys that are
getting medicines and stuff and they're not actually ster wards,
but they have some kind of material in them that's
on the band list and they get kicked out for
thirty forty sixty games half a year one of them.

(02:30:05):
Just let professional athletes do whatever the hell they want
to do. What's the problem.

Speaker 5 (02:30:13):
You're talking about it? Yeah, No, you're talking about if
everybody has if everybody has the same advantage, it's not
an unfair advantage, is what you're saying.

Speaker 18 (02:30:20):
That's right.

Speaker 8 (02:30:21):
Yeah, let him if they want to take stairwords, let
him take stairwords. They won't take growth hormone let him
take growth romo. They won't take these storms. Let him
take storms.

Speaker 5 (02:30:31):
If a guy if if if a musician performs better
after drinking a little bit of tequiler whiskey before his concert,
and the other guy didn't, and he just performed better
because his voice felt better. You're not going to punish
that guy because everybody can drink whiskey before they perform
at a concert. That's what you're saying about this, right
performance enhancing, If it's available to everybody, leave.

Speaker 4 (02:30:50):
It alone, that's right.

Speaker 8 (02:30:52):
What what the hell?

Speaker 7 (02:30:53):
What? Why do we care?

Speaker 1 (02:30:55):
Why do we care?

Speaker 5 (02:30:56):
Because we're on a because because society's on a moral
high horse. You and I both know that.

Speaker 8 (02:31:01):
Yeah, it's just look, it's it's stupidity these guys. I
had one person tell me, oh, well, why about the
high school kids. Oh it's really If you get caught
in college, guess what, you lose your scholarship, You can't
play no more.

Speaker 5 (02:31:15):
Well, you tell these kids they're making they're making Hey,
well wait a minute, we were letting kids make decisions
on what they want to do when they're eight. So
I think if you're fifteen or sixteen years old and
your parents say steroids aren't good for you, but you
do what you gotta do then.

Speaker 4 (02:31:31):
I mean, I'm not saying I'm not condoning.

Speaker 5 (02:31:33):
I'm just saying, you know, at some point in time
there's got to be accountability all the way around.

Speaker 4 (02:31:36):
But you're right. I mean, if everybody has access to it,
it's no longer it's no longer an unfair advantage.

Speaker 6 (02:31:42):
There you go, good points.

Speaker 4 (02:31:44):
There you go. Andy thinks, appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (02:31:47):
Body real quick, Bryan, before we go to break, would
you I've asked you this before, but the Bears, repeating
says it's to the topic. Can't assume everybody heard that
conversation a year ago with him. Your minor leagues, you
hit fifteen home runs, okay, and you're you've got a
year that the next year's make make moving year for you.

(02:32:07):
And somebody offers you you're not getting tested, and somebody says, dude,
not getting tested. You're not getting tested in the minor
six months. I'm getting to the moral to see it's
not the test where you have to I'm giving you
the moral. You're not getting tested. So now that it's
a moral thing right for you, I say, you got
eight months till the season starts or six months, whatever
it is, and you're doing it. During the end of
one season, you hit fifteen homers. They expect more power.

(02:32:28):
You're you're a corner outfielder. Yeah right, you're my right fielder.
I'd like you to hit there and then if they
can do that, then there's a big contract that give
me the call up in the contract. Damn right, your
a former first round pick. Yeah, you just been you
just your power hasn't shown in your first two or
three years in the miners. We got to see more
of it. Somebody says, I got this, dude. You have
the best season of your career power wise.

Speaker 4 (02:32:50):
You're doing it. Yes, I don't even hesitate if you're hitting.

Speaker 5 (02:32:53):
And if you hit thirty five home runs in the miners,
they pull you up and you get a new contract.
Do you regret it even if it took a year
off your life when you're ninety though, No, because it
gets me to where I'm trying to go all over
that one for a minute. Yeah, for I don't have
like for me, I don't. I'm talking about the Yeah.
All I'm saying is like that right or wrong?

Speaker 4 (02:33:10):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:33:10):
That grind in the minor leagues. I've never been there,
but I have friends that have been there, Guys that
I surround myself around. Being in college where you played
is brutal.

Speaker 4 (02:33:19):
Yeah, it just is.

Speaker 3 (02:33:20):
Dude, you're making you're making below the poverty line in
the minor leagues. You're you're You're sleeping five six, seven
dudes in one apartment. And if you can tell me
something's gonna you have and some of them may be
playing the same position as you, and you got to
you gotta outshine somebody.

Speaker 5 (02:33:33):
And I like, I like to think that I have
some morals and value same. But if you presented that
to me and then weren't testing, I would have to say,
let me get try it one year, because that one
year may end up being the year that has your family. Yeah,
taking care of the rest of your life. Maybe you're powerball.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong. You get to
make that to see. I'm just saying, if posed with that,
what would you do?

Speaker 3 (02:33:54):
I know where I'm doing. It's good to break. Final
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Speaker 29 (02:35:13):
We want to win.

Speaker 1 (02:35:14):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:35:17):
We'll start with Steve and THO. We'll get the trade. Steve,
good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 8 (02:35:21):
I hope everybody's doing well.

Speaker 4 (02:35:23):
We're good, We're good. What's on your mind?

Speaker 32 (02:35:24):
Stare two separate points, horse racing and plausible deniability. When
I hear them talking about the manager, the team, if
you're looking at someone, who's who's who's a triple Crown winner,
Who's more important the jockey for the horse. If you

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have a horse, you can run like lightning, but you
can't get him to go where he wants to go
where you want him to go, You're gonna lose. So
I feel like you just really can't separate the manager
from the team, or the teams from the managers. It's
a horse and the jockey jockey situation. The second point,
which is separate from that, is plausible deniability. These owners

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know and they are encouraging these players to use steroids
and other performance of hands and drugs.

Speaker 8 (02:36:14):
And here's why I say that.

Speaker 32 (02:36:16):
And they get up there and they put a contract
in front of me, like you're saying, fifteen home runs, Steve.
You know we'll throw another ten million dollars in here
if you can just get your power numbers up to
forty home runs. And we know you're a smart guy,
we know you figure out how to do it well.

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The owners don't want to have themselves involved with telling
their players to go get performance enhancing drugs, so they
get put it into a position where the player needs
to figure it out for himself. That way, the owners
don't get accused of it.

Speaker 8 (02:36:55):
So that's all.

Speaker 4 (02:36:56):
Appreciate the call, Steve.

Speaker 5 (02:36:58):
Yeah, here's what I think. I don't think they go
up to him and say do it. I think that
they just say, well, I don't know or winning, I'm
getting paid. I'm talking about owner.

Speaker 4 (02:37:08):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (02:37:08):
They want success and there there are I'm not saying
at all it's not fair to say put an umbrella
overall of it, but it is the turn of the
other cheek is become a something in sports that we
do quite often.

Speaker 4 (02:37:19):
Yeah, show hel Tony Trey, what's up?

Speaker 17 (02:37:25):
Yes, just to.

Speaker 33 (02:37:26):
Rebattle uh and support Joe Spider. Spider Spider means sword
in English spot bound swords. Last year, the one of
the four performances of the estras was not winning at home. Well,
Joe Spider fixed that because Dusty is no longer involved,
so Inspider to care of that, even though we have

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the same players. But just just that Spider, m hm,
we win our home games.

Speaker 7 (02:37:57):
Thank you, guys.

Speaker 4 (02:37:58):
Good point. He Dusty didn't of a job, and I
think Joe spot has done some good things too. I
mean sword, dude, And see there you go.

Speaker 5 (02:38:06):
There's a rebuttal on when Mike he wants to you
know the spot and have more credit, and rightfully so
got you gotta wheeld that sword, damn right. I didn't
know that's what a spot meant.

Speaker 4 (02:38:20):
Nothing did I. But you learned something new every day.
You sure do. I like it, Joe Sword, That was right.

Speaker 5 (02:38:27):
Joe has spotted, but he's done a And one of
our biggest bitches last year was can you win at home?
And can you beat bad teams. They've done a better
job of that this year. And it's it's a it's a.

Speaker 4 (02:38:38):
Especially at home, and that place is rocking and last
night snow you know, winning at home and losing at home,
that's on the manager. No, no, no, he has a
part of it. Yeah, no, he I get what he's saying.

Speaker 5 (02:38:55):
I don't think he's saying the only reason they went
at home is Joe spotted out Dusty Baker extra right,
I think saying is that that, Well, if you're looking
to when you're looking to give credit to somebody, you're
trying to find whatever vertical that is you're giving credit to.

Speaker 4 (02:39:09):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:39:11):
And so with that, when you're looking to say, Okay,
one of the things that Joe spot is doing better
than Dusty the team did last year was was to
win it home. I think that's what he meant. Just
doesn't matter semantics in a sentence.

Speaker 4 (02:39:24):
Yeah, just goes back to semantics. Yeah, Joe Sword baby,
that's what I think.

Speaker 5 (02:39:29):
That's what we're gonna start calling him, Joe Sword a
sword guy s O R D. Or you guy that
puts the W in it and over like Joe Sword.

Speaker 4 (02:39:38):
No you're not. You say sword swards Yeah you swords? Yeah,
you say sword like it's Nick Swardson correct.

Speaker 5 (02:39:44):
Right, his you emphasized the w W sword do you