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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, thirty six thirteen ten Wiba and Ask the Experts,
brought to you by Checkout Veterinary. Joined this morning by
doctor Murdy Greer, who is recognized as Veterinarian of the
Year from the Westminster Kennel Club. Of course, doctor Greer
comes to us from Checkout Veterinary. The website checkout vet
dot com. That's checkout vet dot com. You can learn
(00:21):
more on the website. It's a great website. I've got
some great for folks that wonder about you know what,
checkout vet. It's different, how does it work. It's a
great website to learn about that those drive through base.
To be honest, it's kind of simple when you think
about you drive in and the cares takes place right
there in the bay. It's less stress for you. More importantly,
less stress for your pets as well. It's a great
(00:43):
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for you Monday through Wednesdays, Friday through Sundays nine am
until five pm at checkout Vet and Monday through Friday
at check Invet. So they are there for you seven
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(01:04):
Now you can get all the details online. Checkout vet
dot com. That's checkout vet dot com. Great day to
start that relationship. Tel for number six O eight three
one eight sixty seven hundred. That's three one eight sixty
seven hundred. And joining us this morning is doctor Marty Greer. Doctor,
where are you this week?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Hope?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Do we have doctor Greer with us? I'm we're not
hearing her. That's okay. I Actually a fun fact is
I know where doctor Greer is. She is. She is
in Minnesota traveling uh this morning, and we'll get the
details from her. Of course, it is spring. I'm looking
at the forecast here, twenty seven storm track forecast. We
see we're seeing temperatures today near sixty uh. Throughout the week.
(01:47):
I see seventy three on Friday and the sixties on
on Saturday. And it's gonna be it's gonna be at
warm weather. And doctor I think we've been able to
get connected with you and doctor I know when it
doesn't take much a little bit of a weather change
and all sorts of critters start coming out of the
woodwork looking to uh, looking to snack on your on
(02:09):
your furry friends and sometimes you as well, but they
really like like your pets. How you doing this morning,
I'm doing great, excellent. It's good to talk to you.
Let's talk about some of the some of the things
out there. Obviously, with the changing of the seasons, there
are things as pet owners we want to be proactive
about making sure that that our pets stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Aren't there You're right about we start having pleasing chicks,
so we need to be vigilant and get.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Our pets on those preventives. So that includes heart run prehensives,
please fleen tick preventives, keep them healthy.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You were you, I think you had mentioned on a
previous showy probably last fall or so. Some of the
recommendations have changed just because of weather wise, how seasons
have you know, warmer, warmer, winters and and that area.
There are some slightly different guidance from what we may
have traditionally been taught about when to be when to
be giving your pets some of these treatments.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Right, we used to be a lot more seasonal in Wisconsin.
We would go just spring, summer, and fall, but now
it really needs to be year round. You know, we
had a pretty cold stretch in February for a few days,
but in January we had some forty degree weather. So
that's all it takes for the ticks to come out
and start looking for somebody to snack on. So it
is important that we're paying attention to those weather changes.
(03:31):
And the tics have changed as well. The ticks have
moved to a more northern area, so we're seeing ticks
here like the lone star ticks we never saw before.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And it's interesting we talk about ticks. I remember a
couple of winters ago. It was a it was a
warm day and I remember I was out out in
my backyard, out in the woods. I found a log
that I was sitting on and it was there was
still snow on snow piles and snow on the ground,
but it was a it was a war and I
look down and there's a tick walking across my hand.
(04:03):
All it took was that little warm up for them
to wake back up and come back out. I always,
and this was my naive tata all of this. My
assumption was always that if if if it was cold,
they were dead, And reality is, they weren't dead. They cold,
They were just snapping and as soon as it warms up,
they get going again.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, and they come out hungry. So they're looking for you.
They're looking for your dog, and your dog has preventive
on it, they're going to look for you. So you
want to make sure that we're doing all the right
things that they're not bringing it back into the yonchard
into the house. I've had clients have a tick come
in the house and make a nest and then they
have just a real big mess on their hands. But
I sim please, They'll come in the house and they
(04:45):
spend most of their time on the pet, but there
is some time off their body, and that gives them
a chance for eggs to laid and then eggs to hatch,
and then for those larvae to come out and then
turn into adults and start snacking on you. So it's
a it's a really interesting life cycle. But not when
I want to be part of.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
No, No, absolutely not. And doctor. Do do flee and
tick collars work?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I know?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I know with Homer we do the we do the
drops and the on the and they work fantastic. Do
the collars work much? It seems like there might be
some downside to that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
But I'll yeah, the Ceresto color, which is amtrez, is
the active ingredient. It does work pretty well. It does
have a repellency effect and it also paralyzes them off
parts of the tick, so if they try to bite,
or if they do bite, then they're paralyzed, so they
can't continue holding on and taking a snack of blood
from you. So they do work pretty effectively. The others,
(05:40):
you know, as you mentioned, there's a topical, there's a pill,
there's a collar, and in the next year or two
we're going to see another product come to market that's
going to revolutionize the use of fleean chick medications. But
it's not quite out there yet, so we just have
to be patient until it does come to market. It's
pretty great.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
What does you mentioned doctors? Talking this morning with doctor
Marty Greer of check Out Veterinary, we talked about ticks
and obviously ticks that we'd introduce types that we haven't
traditionally seen. Of course, dog takes, deer ticks pretty common.
Lone star is starting to appear here and we think
about things like lime disease. Is that what effect does
that have on animals and why is it something that
(06:21):
you really want to make sure that you're doing everything
to prevent sure.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So we see lime disease antaplastmasa center licky fairly commonly
in our dogs. Lime disease causes fever, lameness, not feeling well,
loss of appetite, and in some cases, especially labradors and
Golden Retrievers, they can go into kidney failures, they develop
lime to fritus and they can die from it. So
it's not just oh, it's a tick. It's oh, it's
(06:46):
a tick. And if you have lime disease, we need
to be testing for it now. If it comes back
positive on the in house screening test, then there's an
additional test that we run called the C six that
verifies is this a recent exposure or is this a
previous exposure, because if they were those three years ago,
the lime test may still show up positive and so
you'll be like, well, he's always been positive. I'm not
going to treat this year. Well, if we do the
(07:07):
C six, then it's above thirty, that's going to tell
us that it's an active infection. If it's below thirty,
you know a lot of them come back at ten
and I'm like, yeah, I don't worry about it. But
if it comes back two hundred and eighteen, if it
comes about eight hundred, yeah, I'm kind of all over
that because that's going to tell us that we're likely
to end up in trouble. And I don't want dogs
to develop something that we could have prevented. So it's
(07:27):
pretty easy to prevent. And you know a lot of
people are still reluctant to use the flee intic medications.
They used to contain organo phosphates and carbamates, which we're
also toxic to our nervous systems, to any mammals nervous
system But the newer products that we have now don't
affect the humans the way that the old ones did,
So there's so much safer, and there's so much more effective,
(07:47):
and there's so many more delivery systems than we didn't
used to have. That if you're kind of reluctant, I
want you to revisit that and really pay attention to
what the newer products can do for your pets and
for you, and to keep your yard clear, keep your
house clear. You not have the dog brings something in
for the cat. You know, all those things can happen what.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
About the lime vaccine? Doctor, Are there certain dogs and
certain activities that pet owners may want it, or certain
pets that they may be more likely to really want
or need or should probably have a lime vaccine.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, a lot of people have the conception that if
their dog stays in their yard and their yard is
fenced or they mow the grass, that there aren't going
to be ticks there, and that's actually not true. So
it really depends a little bit on environment, and it
depends on what kind of a risk taker you are.
The flea and tick preventives prevent all the fleas and ticks,
and they prevent all the diseases that the ticks carry,
(08:41):
and that the lime disease only prevents lime disease, so
you know, it's still a very useful vaccination. And for
dogs that spend a lot of time outdoors, or if
you go camping or up north or you know, hiking
or hunting or any of those things, then yes, I
would vaccinate those dogs for lime. If the dog is
you know, a couch potato dog and the toe out
into the grass for about thirty seconds and tiptoe back,
(09:03):
their risks are lower, but they're not zero.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Talking this morning with doctor Marty Greer of check Out Veterinaria.
Getting your pet ready for spring. I've seen and I
know my dog and I took a walk yesterday and
taking a couple already this year. As soon as it
gets a little warmer, we all get out, take our
pets out a little bit more longer walks. We'll talk
about some of the things to be careful with on
those eyes. We talked this morning with doctor Greer. Also
getting everything buttoned down so we have a great, great
(09:29):
season ahead. Heartworm is another concern as we enter this
time of year, and taking that preventative is an important
thing for your pet, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yes, And we do see heartworm disease in Wisconsin. Most
of the dogs that are positive in our clinic have
been imported from the Southern States as rescues, but not all.
And if you have a rescue dog in the neighborhood
that's positive for live disease, very likely that the one
hundred percent of the dogs in that immediate vicinity will
also be exposed in potentially have heartworm disease as well.
(10:02):
So we want to make sure that we're on our
preventions and we're keeping it doesn't prevent a mosquito bite.
But what it does is prevent the heartworm larva from
turning that carries by the mosquito from turning into an
adult worm. And when we say heartworm, we really mean heartworm.
That's really a worm that lives inside the dog's heart.
And people are like, what, yeah, really, I've seen them.
They're not pretty. You don't want those in your dog's heart.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
With heartworm too, people sometimes wonder, obviously it's a prescription.
Why do they need a prescription for that? And why
do you do a test for heartworm before you give
a heartworm prescription doctor.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, back in the old days, with the previous heartworm
preventives that we had with a diantholcarb magazine, it had
to be given daily. If you gave that to a
heartworm positive dog, it could have a fatal event. It
would kill so many worms so quickly that the dog
could arrest. So we have newer preventives now that necessarily
aren't quite that severe. The biggest concern is failure to
diagnose the heart room disease early enough to get a
(11:04):
treatment that's effective. The longer the worms live in the
dog's heart, the more damage it's under the heart, and
then the kidneys deliver other into and our organs are
also affected. So we don't want your dog to walk
around the heart room for four years before they start
coughing and then say, ooh, I guess we should have
tested you three years ago. So the recommendation is to
do an annual test. Even though people swear up and
down that they have given every single heart room pill
(11:26):
every single month, every single time, there are still things
that happen. There are some heartrooms that are resistant to
the preventive. I have a friend down in Memphis who
two years ago diagnosed thirty eight heartworm positive dogs on
dogs that were known to be given preventive every single month.
So we can see resistance. We can see failure of
the medication, like you maybe forgot or maybe the dogs
(11:47):
fitted out behind the couch, or maybe the dog went
outside and vomited and he didn't realize that that happened,
and so then the dog has a break in coverage.
So as veterinarians, it is our responsibility to make sure
that we are protecting your pets against those diseases. So
we don't want to have anything slip. So the craft
that's why we are recommending annual tests. We used to
kind of go, well, you know, every other year. No,
(12:07):
the American Heartrooms Society says every single year these dogs
should be tested. So you can do your research. You
can go to the American Heartrooms Society website and take
a look at their recommendations, so you can really verify
that your veterinarian is not just you know, trying to
grab a couple extra bucks out of your pocket. They're
really doing what's recommended for your pet by the specialty
people who know their stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
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environmental concerns. Also the rabies word. We'll talk with the
doctor about that next as ask the experts with Checkout
veterinaryan doctor Marty Greer continues right here on thirteen ten
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to get to as well. We're talking this week with
doctor Greer about springtime and we are there and the
weather just looks absolutely fantastic, and uh, before we get
(14:38):
into some of the environmental things that go on during
the springtime, one final thing that I can think of,
and there's probably a billion things that I'm that I'm overlooking,
but important thing is as your pet comes in contact
with other animals, sometimes things like rabies and other diseases
and serious illnesses are out there. I know a lot
(14:58):
of communities. Most commune I can think of require some
type of vaccine and protection against things like rabies. Those
are obviously very important to beginning and just just terrible,
terrible diseases, aren't.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
They doctor they are? And rabies there's no cure for rabies.
Once you're exposed to rabies and get rabies, it's over.
So it's really important that you don't try to cheat
the system and not get a Raby's vaccination for your pet.
We need to be doing those. As puppies they get
them the first time, and then a year later they
get one, and then it's typically a three year series
(15:30):
after that, so every three years you need a Rabia's vaccination.
It's not required for capts in some communities. It is
required for dogs in the entire state of Wisconsin. So
get your raby vaccination, get your tag, get your certificate,
take your dogs paperwork in, get them a license, follow
the rules. It's always important to do those things, So
don't try to sneak around and cheat the system. It's
(15:51):
not it doesn't it just doesn't pay off. It's not
good for you, it's not good for your pet. And
if your pet is unvaccinated for rabies. If they're exposed
to something or they bite somebody, got somebody, then they
are considered unvaccinated and you are going to be responsible
for at least ten days of quarantine that you pay for.
For some things, it's up to six months of quarantine.
So don't mess around. Just get the raby vaccination. They're safe,
(16:13):
they're they're good. We have primerosolt free vaccines. If you're
concerned about aluminum preservatives and those things that we can
we have that alternative for you just need to ask
for it and we can make sure that those things happen,
so you know, really pay attention to those things it's important.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
With And it feels like this is one of those.
And I shouldn't say one of those because I don't think.
I don't know that it's necessarily rarity. But oftentimes we
overlook our cat friends are our kiddies, and obviously rabies
is something and I think of I watch my cats
the way they behave. I mean, they're there may not
always be the hunted. Sometimes oftentimes they are the hunters,
(16:50):
and they can become exposed to rabies that way as well,
can't They.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, things like baths are really a concern now. Most rodents,
mice and rats don't carry rabies, but the little other
critters we see raccoons and skunks and a lot of that.
And cats are often exposed to bats even if they're
not outside because unfortunately, baths can find their way into
your house, back to your belfry, can come into the
house house, and then the cats can be exposed to it.
My sister had that happened to her a number of
(17:15):
years ago when she lived in downtown Minneapolis. So even
in communities that seem really urban, we still have bats.
They live under the shake shingles, they live you know,
around and we want that. We want bats to be
able to eat the insects and do the things that
they're supposed to do, but they do carry that risk.
So again, you know, if you're in certain municipalities, look
us what the law is and make sure that you're
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following it. Get your cat vaccinated, because the last thing
we want to do is have anything that goes wrong.
And radius is a serious disease. If a human gets
it there, it's a fatal disease. There's only one person
known to has survived, and that actually was in fond
of Lac, Wisconsin. Well, she was treated at Milwaukee, but
she was from Fondilac, so that has been you know,
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really nobody else has been able to replicate that remarkable recovery.
So you have to be aware that that's the case,
and you know, just not take any chances on exposure
because it's just not it's just not worth it.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And I want to ask two doctor. I think a
lot of you mentioned that word exposure. A lot of
us assume a bite. Obviously a bite is one way,
but am i am I right? Or am I off
on this that that even rabias can even be spread
just through through saliva and other fluid. I mean, it's
not necessarily a bite. And I understand bat bites actually
can be so innocuous that you may not even know
(18:32):
that you. I think the gal and Fondelac wasn't even
sure she had been bitten by a bat. That as
much as we'd like to think, well I would know,
or my pet would would make a noise or reacting,
it's just not. It is something that they can be
exposed to, and you may not always be aware that
that had ever even happened.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Correct in this person's case, she had picked up a
bat in the church and carried it outside, so she
had been exposed to that. She didn't think that there
was a bite. But there's about on average one person
a year in the United States that dies from Raby's
with no known exposure, So it's pretty scary to think
that you could get it and not even be aware
of it. So anybody fluid that splashed onto a mucous
(19:13):
membrane can be the case. Like when we were in
that school, we had an exposure. One of our classmates
got exposed to splashing blood in his eye from an
animal that was thought to have rabies. When my husband
was in dairy practice, he stuck his arm down the
throat of a cow along with his two associates because
they assumed she was choking on something like a corn cob,
and indeed she had rabies. So all three of those
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guys were exposed. So you know, and it doesn't take much,
it doesn't take long, and there is no turning around,
so you just have to be really cognizant of the
fact that you can't take those chances.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Great great information, great advice, as always from doctor Marty Greer.
Speaking of great information, great advice and a great day.
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Hey, thirty six thirteen ten Wiba and Ask the Experts,
brought to you by Checkout Veterinary. Joined this morning by
doctor Murdy Greer, who is recognized as Veterinarian of the
Year from the Westminster Kennel Club. Of course, doctor Greer
comes to us from Checkout Veterinary. The website checkout vet
dot com. That's checkout vet dot com. You can learn
(00:21):
more on the website. It's a great website. I've got
some great for folks that wonder about you know what,
checkout vet. It's different, how does it work. It's a
great website to learn about that those drive through base.
To be honest, it's kind of simple when you think
about you drive in and the cares takes place right
there in the bay. It's less stress for you. More importantly,
less stress for your pets as well. It's a great
(00:43):
way for pet care. And of course they are there
for you Monday through Wednesdays, Friday through Sundays nine am
until five pm at checkout Vet and Monday through Friday
at check Invet. So they are there for you seven
days a week at check out and check in Veterinary. Again,
you can learn more online check vet dot com. Don't
forget your first visit that exam. It will be free again.
(01:04):
Now you can get all the details online. Checkout vet
dot com. That's checkout vet dot com. Great day to
start that relationship. Tel for number six O eight three
one eight sixty seven hundred. That's three one eight sixty
seven hundred. And joining us this morning is doctor Marty Greer. Doctor,
where are you this week?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Hope?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Do we have doctor Greer with us? I'm we're not
hearing her. That's okay. I Actually a fun fact is
I know where doctor Greer is. She is. She is
in Minnesota traveling uh this morning, and we'll get the
details from her. Of course, it is spring. I'm looking
at the forecast here, twenty seven storm track forecast. We
see we're seeing temperatures today near sixty uh. Throughout the week.
(01:47):
I see seventy three on Friday and the sixties on
on Saturday. And it's gonna be it's gonna be at
warm weather. And doctor I think we've been able to
get connected with you and doctor I know when it
doesn't take much a little bit of a weather change
and all sorts of critters start coming out of the
woodwork looking to uh, looking to snack on your on
(02:09):
your furry friends and sometimes you as well, but they
really like like your pets. How you doing this morning,
I'm doing great, excellent. It's good to talk to you.
Let's talk about some of the some of the things
out there. Obviously, with the changing of the seasons, there
are things as pet owners we want to be proactive
about making sure that that our pets stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Aren't there You're right about we start having pleasing chicks,
so we need to be vigilant and get.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Our pets on those preventives. So that includes heart run prehensives,
please fleen tick preventives, keep them healthy.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You were you, I think you had mentioned on a
previous showy probably last fall or so. Some of the
recommendations have changed just because of weather wise, how seasons
have you know, warmer, warmer, winters and and that area.
There are some slightly different guidance from what we may
have traditionally been taught about when to be when to
be giving your pets some of these treatments.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Right, we used to be a lot more seasonal in Wisconsin.
We would go just spring, summer, and fall, but now
it really needs to be year round. You know, we
had a pretty cold stretch in February for a few days,
but in January we had some forty degree weather. So
that's all it takes for the ticks to come out
and start looking for somebody to snack on. So it
is important that we're paying attention to those weather changes.
(03:31):
And the tics have changed as well. The ticks have
moved to a more northern area, so we're seeing ticks
here like the lone star ticks we never saw before.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And it's interesting we talk about ticks. I remember a
couple of winters ago. It was a it was a
warm day and I remember I was out out in
my backyard, out in the woods. I found a log
that I was sitting on and it was there was
still snow on snow piles and snow on the ground,
but it was a it was a war and I
look down and there's a tick walking across my hand.
(04:03):
All it took was that little warm up for them
to wake back up and come back out. I always,
and this was my naive tata all of this. My
assumption was always that if if if it was cold,
they were dead, And reality is, they weren't dead. They cold,
They were just snapping and as soon as it warms up,
they get going again.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, and they come out hungry. So they're looking for you.
They're looking for your dog, and your dog has preventive
on it, they're going to look for you. So you
want to make sure that we're doing all the right
things that they're not bringing it back into the yonchard
into the house. I've had clients have a tick come
in the house and make a nest and then they
have just a real big mess on their hands. But
I sim please, They'll come in the house and they
(04:45):
spend most of their time on the pet, but there
is some time off their body, and that gives them
a chance for eggs to laid and then eggs to hatch,
and then for those larvae to come out and then
turn into adults and start snacking on you. So it's
a it's a really interesting life cycle. But not when
I want to be part of.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
No, No, absolutely not. And doctor. Do do flee and
tick collars work?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I know?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I know with Homer we do the we do the
drops and the on the and they work fantastic. Do
the collars work much? It seems like there might be
some downside to that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
But I'll yeah, the Ceresto color, which is amtrez, is
the active ingredient. It does work pretty well. It does
have a repellency effect and it also paralyzes them off
parts of the tick, so if they try to bite,
or if they do bite, then they're paralyzed, so they
can't continue holding on and taking a snack of blood
from you. So they do work pretty effectively. The others,
(05:40):
you know, as you mentioned, there's a topical, there's a pill,
there's a collar, and in the next year or two
we're going to see another product come to market that's
going to revolutionize the use of fleean chick medications. But
it's not quite out there yet, so we just have
to be patient until it does come to market. It's
pretty great.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
What does you mentioned doctors? Talking this morning with doctor
Marty Greer of check Out Veterinary, we talked about ticks
and obviously ticks that we'd introduce types that we haven't
traditionally seen. Of course, dog takes, deer ticks pretty common.
Lone star is starting to appear here and we think
about things like lime disease. Is that what effect does
that have on animals and why is it something that
(06:21):
you really want to make sure that you're doing everything
to prevent sure.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So we see lime disease antaplastmasa center licky fairly commonly
in our dogs. Lime disease causes fever, lameness, not feeling well,
loss of appetite, and in some cases, especially labradors and
Golden Retrievers, they can go into kidney failures, they develop
lime to fritus and they can die from it. So
it's not just oh, it's a tick. It's oh, it's
(06:46):
a tick. And if you have lime disease, we need
to be testing for it now. If it comes back
positive on the in house screening test, then there's an
additional test that we run called the C six that
verifies is this a recent exposure or is this a
previous exposure, because if they were those three years ago,
the lime test may still show up positive and so
you'll be like, well, he's always been positive. I'm not
going to treat this year. Well, if we do the
(07:07):
C six, then it's above thirty, that's going to tell
us that it's an active infection. If it's below thirty,
you know a lot of them come back at ten
and I'm like, yeah, I don't worry about it. But
if it comes back two hundred and eighteen, if it
comes about eight hundred, yeah, I'm kind of all over
that because that's going to tell us that we're likely
to end up in trouble. And I don't want dogs
to develop something that we could have prevented. So it's
(07:27):
pretty easy to prevent. And you know a lot of
people are still reluctant to use the flee intic medications.
They used to contain organo phosphates and carbamates, which we're
also toxic to our nervous systems, to any mammals nervous
system But the newer products that we have now don't
affect the humans the way that the old ones did,
So there's so much safer, and there's so much more effective,
(07:47):
and there's so many more delivery systems than we didn't
used to have. That if you're kind of reluctant, I
want you to revisit that and really pay attention to
what the newer products can do for your pets and
for you, and to keep your yard clear, keep your
house clear. You not have the dog brings something in
for the cat. You know, all those things can happen what.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
About the lime vaccine? Doctor, Are there certain dogs and
certain activities that pet owners may want it, or certain
pets that they may be more likely to really want
or need or should probably have a lime vaccine.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, a lot of people have the conception that if
their dog stays in their yard and their yard is
fenced or they mow the grass, that there aren't going
to be ticks there, and that's actually not true. So
it really depends a little bit on environment, and it
depends on what kind of a risk taker you are.
The flea and tick preventives prevent all the fleas and ticks,
and they prevent all the diseases that the ticks carry,
(08:41):
and that the lime disease only prevents lime disease, so
you know, it's still a very useful vaccination. And for
dogs that spend a lot of time outdoors, or if
you go camping or up north or you know, hiking
or hunting or any of those things, then yes, I
would vaccinate those dogs for lime. If the dog is
you know, a couch potato dog and the toe out
into the grass for about thirty seconds and tiptoe back,
(09:03):
their risks are lower, but they're not zero.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Talking this morning with doctor Marty Greer of check Out Veterinaria.
Getting your pet ready for spring. I've seen and I
know my dog and I took a walk yesterday and
taking a couple already this year. As soon as it
gets a little warmer, we all get out, take our
pets out a little bit more longer walks. We'll talk
about some of the things to be careful with on
those eyes. We talked this morning with doctor Greer. Also
getting everything buttoned down so we have a great, great
(09:29):
season ahead. Heartworm is another concern as we enter this
time of year, and taking that preventative is an important
thing for your pet, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yes, And we do see heartworm disease in Wisconsin. Most
of the dogs that are positive in our clinic have
been imported from the Southern States as rescues, but not all.
And if you have a rescue dog in the neighborhood
that's positive for live disease, very likely that the one
hundred percent of the dogs in that immediate vicinity will
also be exposed in potentially have heartworm disease as well.
(10:02):
So we want to make sure that we're on our
preventions and we're keeping it doesn't prevent a mosquito bite.
But what it does is prevent the heartworm larva from
turning that carries by the mosquito from turning into an
adult worm. And when we say heartworm, we really mean heartworm.
That's really a worm that lives inside the dog's heart.
And people are like, what, yeah, really, I've seen them.
They're not pretty. You don't want those in your dog's heart.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
With heartworm too, people sometimes wonder, obviously it's a prescription.
Why do they need a prescription for that? And why
do you do a test for heartworm before you give
a heartworm prescription doctor.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, back in the old days, with the previous heartworm
preventives that we had with a diantholcarb magazine, it had
to be given daily. If you gave that to a
heartworm positive dog, it could have a fatal event. It
would kill so many worms so quickly that the dog
could arrest. So we have newer preventives now that necessarily
aren't quite that severe. The biggest concern is failure to
diagnose the heart room disease early enough to get a
(11:04):
treatment that's effective. The longer the worms live in the
dog's heart, the more damage it's under the heart, and
then the kidneys deliver other into and our organs are
also affected. So we don't want your dog to walk
around the heart room for four years before they start
coughing and then say, ooh, I guess we should have
tested you three years ago. So the recommendation is to
do an annual test. Even though people swear up and
down that they have given every single heart room pill
(11:26):
every single month, every single time, there are still things
that happen. There are some heartrooms that are resistant to
the preventive. I have a friend down in Memphis who
two years ago diagnosed thirty eight heartworm positive dogs on
dogs that were known to be given preventive every single month.
So we can see resistance. We can see failure of
the medication, like you maybe forgot or maybe the dogs
(11:47):
fitted out behind the couch, or maybe the dog went
outside and vomited and he didn't realize that that happened,
and so then the dog has a break in coverage.
So as veterinarians, it is our responsibility to make sure
that we are protecting your pets against those diseases. So
we don't want to have anything slip. So the craft
that's why we are recommending annual tests. We used to
kind of go, well, you know, every other year. No,
(12:07):
the American Heartrooms Society says every single year these dogs
should be tested. So you can do your research. You
can go to the American Heartrooms Society website and take
a look at their recommendations, so you can really verify
that your veterinarian is not just you know, trying to
grab a couple extra bucks out of your pocket. They're
really doing what's recommended for your pet by the specialty
people who know their stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Talking this morning with doctor Marty Greer, of course, Doctor
Greer comes to us from Checkout Veterinary the website check
out vet dot com. That's checkout vet dot com. Of course,
checkout Veterinary real convenient to get to no matter where
you are. If you can hear my voice this morning,
it's really easy to get to their right at twenty
seven to ten Prairie Lakes Drive and Sun Prairie right
off the highway, right near the interstate. So again a
(12:48):
very convenient location for you when your pet. Of course,
at first visit that exam that's free to your pet.
You get all the details online check out vet dot com.
That's all one word checkout vet dot com. Great data,
start that relationship, become a new patient at checkout Veterinary.
I got to do is pick up phone, gave a
call six so eight three one eight sixty seven hundred.
That's three one eight sixty seven hundred. Of course you
(13:08):
can also go online. I get that telphona number at
checkout vet dot com. That's checkout vet dot com. We're
go to talk with doctor Greer about some of the
environmental concerns. Also the rabies word. We'll talk with the
doctor about that next as ask the experts with Checkout
veterinaryan doctor Marty Greer continues right here on thirteen ten
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(13:29):
b A talking this morning with doctor Marty Greer. Of course,
doctor Greer, she joins us from Checkout Veterinary. The website
checkout vet dot com. That's checkout vet dot com. The
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(13:52):
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make an appointment at checkout Veterinary six oh eight three
one eight sixty seven hundred. That's six soh eight three
one eight sixty seven hundred. Don't forget that first visit.
It's free that exam, it's free any type of diagnostics
(14:15):
and testing. Of course, there is a fee schedule for that,
and it's very well laid out at checkout vet dot com. Again,
they love having visitors as well. Right at twenty seven
to ten Prairie Lakes Drive. You haven't seen the clinic yet,
definitely head on out check that out again. Very convenient
to get to as well. We're talking this week with
doctor Greer about springtime and we are there and the
weather just looks absolutely fantastic, and uh, before we get
(14:38):
into some of the environmental things that go on during
the springtime, one final thing that I can think of,
and there's probably a billion things that I'm that I'm overlooking,
but important thing is as your pet comes in contact
with other animals, sometimes things like rabies and other diseases
and serious illnesses are out there. I know a lot
(14:58):
of communities. Most commune I can think of require some
type of vaccine and protection against things like rabies. Those
are obviously very important to beginning and just just terrible,
terrible diseases, aren't.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
They doctor they are? And rabies there's no cure for rabies.
Once you're exposed to rabies and get rabies, it's over.
So it's really important that you don't try to cheat
the system and not get a Raby's vaccination for your pet.
We need to be doing those. As puppies they get
them the first time, and then a year later they
get one, and then it's typically a three year series
(15:30):
after that, so every three years you need a Rabia's vaccination.
It's not required for capts in some communities. It is
required for dogs in the entire state of Wisconsin. So
get your raby vaccination, get your tag, get your certificate,
take your dogs paperwork in, get them a license, follow
the rules. It's always important to do those things, So
don't try to sneak around and cheat the system. It's
(15:51):
not it doesn't it just doesn't pay off. It's not
good for you, it's not good for your pet. And
if your pet is unvaccinated for rabies. If they're exposed
to something or they bite somebody, got somebody, then they
are considered unvaccinated and you are going to be responsible
for at least ten days of quarantine that you pay for.
For some things, it's up to six months of quarantine.
So don't mess around. Just get the raby vaccination. They're safe,
(16:13):
they're they're good. We have primerosolt free vaccines. If you're
concerned about aluminum preservatives and those things that we can
we have that alternative for you just need to ask
for it and we can make sure that those things happen,
so you know, really pay attention to those things it's important.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
With And it feels like this is one of those.
And I shouldn't say one of those because I don't think.
I don't know that it's necessarily rarity. But oftentimes we
overlook our cat friends are our kiddies, and obviously rabies
is something and I think of I watch my cats
the way they behave. I mean, they're there may not
always be the hunted. Sometimes oftentimes they are the hunters,
(16:50):
and they can become exposed to rabies that way as well,
can't They.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, things like baths are really a concern now. Most rodents,
mice and rats don't carry rabies, but the little other
critters we see raccoons and skunks and a lot of that.
And cats are often exposed to bats even if they're
not outside because unfortunately, baths can find their way into
your house, back to your belfry, can come into the
house house, and then the cats can be exposed to it.
My sister had that happened to her a number of
(17:15):
years ago when she lived in downtown Minneapolis. So even
in communities that seem really urban, we still have bats.
They live under the shake shingles, they live you know,
around and we want that. We want bats to be
able to eat the insects and do the things that
they're supposed to do, but they do carry that risk.
So again, you know, if you're in certain municipalities, look
us what the law is and make sure that you're
(17:36):
following it. Get your cat vaccinated, because the last thing
we want to do is have anything that goes wrong.
And radius is a serious disease. If a human gets
it there, it's a fatal disease. There's only one person
known to has survived, and that actually was in fond
of Lac, Wisconsin. Well, she was treated at Milwaukee, but
she was from Fondilac, so that has been you know,
(17:56):
really nobody else has been able to replicate that remarkable recovery.
So you have to be aware that that's the case,
and you know, just not take any chances on exposure
because it's just not it's just not worth it.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And I want to ask two doctor. I think a
lot of you mentioned that word exposure. A lot of
us assume a bite. Obviously a bite is one way,
but am i am I right? Or am I off
on this that that even rabias can even be spread
just through through saliva and other fluid. I mean, it's
not necessarily a bite. And I understand bat bites actually
can be so innocuous that you may not even know
(18:32):
that you. I think the gal and Fondelac wasn't even
sure she had been bitten by a bat. That as
much as we'd like to think, well I would know,
or my pet would would make a noise or reacting,
it's just not. It is something that they can be
exposed to, and you may not always be aware that
that had ever even happened.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Correct in this person's case, she had picked up a
bat in the church and carried it outside, so she
had been exposed to that. She didn't think that there
was a bite. But there's about on average one person
a year in the United States that dies from Raby's
with no known exposure, So it's pretty scary to think
that you could get it and not even be aware
of it. So anybody fluid that splashed onto a mucous
(19:13):
membrane can be the case. Like when we were in
that school, we had an exposure. One of our classmates
got exposed to splashing blood in his eye from an
animal that was thought to have rabies. When my husband
was in dairy practice, he stuck his arm down the
throat of a cow along with his two associates because
they assumed she was choking on something like a corn cob,
and indeed she had rabies. So all three of those
(19:33):
guys were exposed. So you know, and it doesn't take much,
it doesn't take long, and there is no turning around,
so you just have to be really cognizant of the
fact that you can't take those chances.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Great great information, great advice, as always from doctor Marty Greer.
Speaking of great information, great advice and a great day.
Today is the day to start that relationship. At checkout Veterinary,
a I can just pick a phone game call make
that appointment six soh eight three one eight sixty seven hundred.
That's the ever one eight sixty seven hundred. Don't forget
your first visit, your pet's first visit. It is free.
The exam is free. At checkout Veterinary. You can get
(20:06):
all the details online as well as telephone number. Check
out vet dot com. That's checkout vet dot com. If
you haven't been there before, I haven't been there recently,
head on over again the website check out vet all
one word check out vet dot com. Doctor Greer, it's
always great talking with you, save travels and we'll do
it again in seven days. Thank you, and again that
website check out vet dot com. That's check out vet
(20:29):
dot com. Vicky McKenna, she joins us it comes your
way next year. I'm thirteen ten dollsleu ib i
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