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Welcome to the Home Remodeling Show withEdge Construction on Newstalk thirteen ten WYBA.
Have a question, email it toEdge Construction Radio at gmail dot com.
Now here's your host, Sean Fuedoon news Talk throteen ten WYBA. This
is the Home Remodeling Show brought toyou by Edge Construction online. Edgeconstruction Company

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dot com. That's all one wordEdgeconstruction Company dot com. Telphy number six
O eight six three six three threefour three, so easy to remember that
six three six Edge joined this morningas we are each and every week by
mister Mike two Egg, owner ofEdge Construction. Mike, how you doing
this week? Great, Sean.I'm excited to talk big projects this week.
And you know, we talk oftentimesabout different spaces and different projects.

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Occasionally the bigger project stuff comes intothat part of that conversation. These are
a lot of fun to do,aren't they They are? I mean,
well, I mean if you surviveit physically, yeah, there are a
lot of fun. I think thatit's really rewarding, you know, from
from our side to it's not thatwe don't love doing it. You know,

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we make our our deal on kitchenspass and all that all the inside
stuff. But we have a bigproject come together. I will I won't
lie and say there's not a littlebit of pride there, you know when
we start looking at those pictures andand we have we have one finished up
right now, so I'm right inthe middle of the fun part. Like
we're just like a couple of daysfrom done. So uh, yeah,
that's pretty cool thing with that.And and I know one of the great

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things about you know, as wego to like Edgeconstruction Company dot com and
your Houseanpinterest and those pages, seeingthe projects is a lot of that stuff
when you're doing that the inside stuff, which you guys do a lot of,
most of is interior remodeling. Isit's great to see. It's also
got to be great to see,like when you can literally drive down the
street and and see that craft cometo life and see like actually every buddy

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that drives by that house can seethe workmanship that you guys do on a
project. Yeah, that part forthe one we're just finished right now.
It's actually on our The gang inthe office put some in progress pictures up
there. It's farther along than itwas in those pictures now now, but
and it is a neat thing becauseevery time I stop in there. It's

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a neighborhood in Middleton where there's alot of walkers and maybe some retired people,
and so whenever you're going out toyour trucker or getting there, somebody's
walking by, and more times thannot, people are going, oh,
I can't believe how that turned out. And you guys doing a great job.
And you know, that's not somethingI think we always hear. It
really is nice when people say thatto me. It says, Okay,

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you didn't build something ugly, maybeit fit kind of fit the neighborhood and
fit the lot. I think thatthe temptations sometimes is, you know,
you just focus in on your needsfor that project and you sort of forget
about your surroundings. And I thinkit is important for the neighborhood that it
that looks like it fits, andmaybe all the rest of the houses on

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the street should look like this maybeat some point. But yeah, that's
it's a beautiful spot. It's acouple of blocks from the high school in
Middleton, and I won't tell youexactly where it is, but if you
drive around you probably find it.But it's it was. I even look
at the four pictures and everybody that'slooked at them before us goes that,

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there's no way that's the same house, Like how did you? How did
you go from that to this?And it starts with the designers, right,
did you? It's just the onethat just to just to jog might
this expanded the garage and it isthat the same project? Yes? Okay
in the garage and then we puta second story on a small ranch and
then so we went up and upand out a little bit. I've seen
some of those pictures. It isbeautiful and is of course, as we

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talked with Mike doing owner of EdgeConstruction, you're thinking about doing a bigger
project or you're thinking about maybe justsomething like a kitchen room model base,
which are by the way, ifyou're having your kitchen ro model, you're
going a big project. Yes,it is a big project. We would
definitely not disagree with you. Butif you're doing some of that bigger stuff
as well, additions going up goingout those type of areas, Mike at
the team at Edge Construction left totalk to you the website Edge Construction Company

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dot com, Telping number six soeight six three six three three four three
that number six three six edge,And our conversation always starts with the word
that you mentioned there, which isthe D word design. And these bigger
projects design, as you were pointingout, you know, make sure not
only that it's going to work,but fits the neighborhood. Design is just
as vital during these bigger projects asit is with those some of those interior
jobs, isn't it it is?And give you an idea. So this

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project is taking maybe a little undersix months and probably spent I think it's
spent between six and nine months indesign. So there's a lot of planing
that goes in and it starts offwith some some brainstorming between us, our
designers, and a homeowner and we'regoing, okay, what do you guess?

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So this this while had it wasbasically a two bedroom ranch, I
had had finished basement more or less. I mean, it's a little bit
of a dated finish basement, butit's still very serviceable and it helps.
Uh gave them, gave this homeowners a little bit more space, and
so we went up We put alegit master suite up there and two more

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bedrooms and another bass. So weadded two bass and three bedrooms, did
the kitchen and all basically every everythingon the first floor, UH siding,
obviously the roof, expanded the garage, so it's pretty big project. So
this this one owner had they wantedto live in this spot, there is
no doubt in my mind, andI don't blame them. If you have

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a Milton zip code, I'm reallyjealous right now. Yes, that's it's
one of the best spots in thestate I think to own a house,
and these houses there are just reallyworth investing in because you're you are not
going to drive down the street andfind another one. Are we seeing and
I know, I know you guysat Edge Construction are doing a lot more
of these type of projects. Arewe seeing across the industry? Is this

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becoming? As you mentioned people youknow, loving their neighborhood and obviously other
factors as well. Are we seeingjust across the industry more and more people
saying, you know what, we'regonna We're gonna stay where we are and
maybe do do an addition or anexpansion. Is that is that kind of
industry wide or what are we seeingthere? I think it is the indust
rates hurt these projects a little bit, So that's one reason why I wanted

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wanted to talk about it. Butyeah, there there's just not inventory out
there to buy. So like,if you're looking for a house in two
thousand and nine, you would havea lot of choices live anywhere you can
buy them cheap. Now we havethe reverse of that where we're just we

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just have not recovered construction wise fromthat time in our from the dark times
and so sore. There's not inventoryout there to look for us when you're
shopping for a house. I don'thave to tell you if you've already,
but I'm assuming everybody that comes tous with a big more model project that
already has been through that process andare going, Okay, I can't find
anything. One of the things andwe'll get more into design here in a

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moment is one of the things.I know that kind of starts design.
I know when we talk about againgoing back to kitchens, oftentimes it's people
you know been in their house anumber of years, have these experiences of
saying here's what works, but alsohere's what doesn't. And with the big,
big rebottels, is it a similartype experience saying okay, here's what
works in this house, but here'swhere we're lacking. You mentioned things like

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a like a master bath and masterbedroom and those type of things. People
saying, this is what works,like the main level or certain parts work
well, the basement works well,but we just don't have Is that kind
of the same kind of impetus forthe start of some of these conversations it
is. I mean, you know, when a lot of people buy houses
when they're a little bit younger,maybe they only had a dog instead of

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through kids, you know, andso you're you get into a place,
which I'm I'm pro any, Idon't care what age get into the market.
You need, you need homeership's justsomething you need to get into,
get your feet wet. But thenwhen life changes happen, then how do
you how do you do with that? So on these bigger projects, I

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think there's there must be a thresholdthere where people are going, Okay,
my kitchen needs redoing, all theflooring needs redoing. I've got terrible windows,
but I don't like my siding,my rough leaks, my garages,
you know, not not enough oror falling apart. You know, there's
just there's thresholds there or size wise. So most of the time people are

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coming to us going, you know, this is our idea? Is this
even got a prayer? Is thereany way to do this? And so
on the bigger projects, I havethis, I talk about this with our
designer, this list. Listen whenpeople come with that can I can this
happen question, or when we're lookingpie in the sky like can I get

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everything? I always feel like ifyou can get maybe eighty or eighty five
percent of the way there, thenit's probably worth remodeling. You know,
if you're if you if you canonly get fifty percent of the way there,
I don't know, you know,maybe maybe it just needs to be
torn down and start over, ormaybe there's there's some other options that need
to be looked at. But youknow, that's that's kind of a tipping

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point for me. Anyways, Ithink, Okay, this starts to look
really realistic. If we can getalmost there, like we take this existing
structure, modify and changing enough toget almost there, then I feel pretty
good. So some of the stuffis kind of driven by the math of
it as well as saying that likewhat's the what's the you know, literally
crunching numbers saying are we at thepoint now? Okay. Option one is

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sell lose that great neighborhood, losethat option, but maybe find something different.
Option two is doing doing a remodelthat checks checks the box. Option
three really saying you know what,we're going to do a real big project
remodel, or option four saying we'regonna flatten and start from scratch. I
mean that's you've hit them, hitthem. I mean, we do have

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one in design right now where it'sfarmhouse in the country and a beautiful piece
of land. It's just the houseis. It's been remodeled a couple of
times. It's just in its lifetime. It's very old house foundations not great
or bad. Let's say, youknow, it's it's rocks and concrete and

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it's mortar rots after a while,so it's seen better days. Probably every
window, maybe thirty windows need tobe replaced. The roughest twenty years old.
The home owners don't like the siding, the there's not a great way
to you know, A lot ofa lot of our remodeling is a joke.
Is getting that kitchen to join therest of the house. This house

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just because of how it was originallybuilt. It's not possible. It's kind
of off by itself. So it'sgot some issues. It's too small,
and that one is looking like we'regoing to tear that down and build a
new house. So we don't builda lot of new houses. But what
do we do with a lot oftimes something like that? Docor this morning
with Mike two Egg, owner ofEdge Construction online, Edge Construction Company dot

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com. That's all one word,Edge Construction Company dot com. Tell number
six to eight six three six threethree four three the number six three six
Edge. I'd asked about the garage, by the way, if this was
that project, and I know thatwas that was part of this. I
remember the house I grew up inthe garage was and it was a very
old house. But the garage waskind of like a glorified car port.
It literally was a roof, hada couple of sides, There was no

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insulation, there was nothing. Ithink it may have actually even had like
gravel for a for a floor inthere. I mean, it was it
was super simple. And now Isee some folks with what are often described
as like the garage mahall type things. Garage expectations as far as it's more
than a place to park your car. It's I think for a lot of
people workshops. I think sometimes peopleare doing laundry and other things. Is

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that are you? Is that kindof the case my seeing that right where
kind of the what qualifies as agarage isn't what we think of just a
place to hold your car. SoI mean, boy, you need you
need to have room though, rightSo if you're this, uh that that
project that's on our front page thereon the website, that one, I

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kind of think that one was thestart of that whole thing, was the
garage because one ball looked kind ofrotten. I mean it was actually kind
of sagging a little bit. Uh. The floor had was looked like some
giant took a big sledgehammer and youknow, cracked it all everywhere. It
was kind of up and down,and it was small, like you had
a beam or I had a postin the middle and it and it,

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and it just wasn't room to getanything but a really small car in there.
And I think, like Homer's going, Okay, I've got a mower
and I've got some tools right here. You mentioned some of those things so
in the new design there is space. It's a it's a legit two car
garage. Now it's got maybe sixfeet of extra space in front of the
second car to do some of thosethings and to organize some of those things

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there. They are much nicer thanthe garage is that I grew up that
you grew up with. You know, now we've we generally finished them out
to hang drive at least and andmake them look nice and and you certainly
wouldn't mind going into one of thesenew garagines. Do size drive some of
this? I think of some ofthe vehicles that we that we drive.
You and I both have. Youhave a very nice uh lace ram or

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both. I think we're both RAMowner. It's nice. I mean I
think of trying to park that insome of those older garages. It's not
going to happen. Right. Thereare times where I wish I had a
camera to show people the face youmade, because yeah, it's it's this.
Do you get some of that too, of saying you know what this
this garage even on a I've heardpeople even when newer homes saying it's not
adequate, Like if you're going todo this project, and kind of making

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that bigger space. Well it is, and you know, just a normal
pickup darts, I don't know they'rethey're tall and and SUVs are are kind
of bigger. And I think thatwe have had projects to answer your question
where people go, you know what, I've got this big truck and I
want to be able to pull itin. Okay, Well, it doesn't
matter that much to us whether thegarage door is seven or eight feet tall,

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or seven feet tall or nine feettall. It really doesn't matter.
The inside of the garage is usuallytall enough to accommodate that. We've had
some really inventive ways, some newtechnology on garage doors that allow you to
get the door as high as possible, put the biggest door you can in
there. Even if your ceiling isn'tthat high. Some of these doors can

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really hug that ceiling and so you'veonly got you know, literally less tough
foot above the door insides to getthat door up in there. So there's
ways to do it and and maximizethat space. Really interesting, that's all.
We never know. I had noidea we'd be door. I think

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we get there, but it's alwaysinteresting aspects. That's for sure, that's
some of the cool things too.About about working with Mike and the team
at Edge Construction. You never knowuntil you start that conversation. Something around
the house you say, you knowwhat, this is frustrating enough, it's
time to upgrade, It's time todo some remind modeling. You never know
that project what you're capable of havingdone until you start that conversation. I
got to just pick a phone gamea call six o eight six three six

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three three four three. That numbersix three six EDGE for Edge Construction the
website Edgeconstruction Company dot com. Ofcourse, Edge Construction brings you the Homer
Modeling Show right here on thirteen tenWUIBA. The home Remodeling Show with Edge
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That's all one word, Edgeconstruction Companydot Com DELVI number six oh eight six
three six three three four three ofthe numbers, so eaves remember six three
six Edge talking about some of thebigger projects and left off that last segment
talking about garages, which we reallyhaven't talked a ton about, but it
is oftentimes I'm gonna guess if ifpossible, if part of that, A
lot of folks say, let's includethat in the in that in that bigger

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project you ever get a chance ofdoing And I know, as a as
a guy who who works with woodand as a as a carpenter, did
you ever get to help folks kindof and we talk a lot with kitchens
for example, you know, ifyou're a baker those type of things,
did you ever help folks kind ofput together maybe a little workshop or something
in their garage? You ever havea project like that where you get to

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kind of something that's that's real closeto near and dear to your heart where
you're like, we actually did onefor somebody a long time ago. I
did one that was it was reallynice house is on the lake, and
they just wanted sort of long shelves. Ladylike was into horticulture and plants and
things, and she wanted I madeplywood shelving. We painted the uprights and

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the and the and the styles,but and then basically pollyed the really nice
plywood for the shelves. And thenI made a move a table that was
on wheels so you can kind oflistening and it all sort of fit together,
and uh, that was really afun project. And it probably I
can't I'm not doing it justice bytalking about the radio, but I'll try
to get some pictures at some pointbecause we go back there once in a

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while. And that was really afun project. It was kind of neat,
at little bit upscale, probably Idon't know if I it cost a
lot of hours actually, so probablynot a lot of people are are gonna
go for that. But that's actuallya project that a lot of homeowners,
if they're handy, will take onon their own. There's a lot of
good resources online, a lot ofproducts that are just made for that,

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and they're not that tough of aninstall. Do you do any like it's
part of some of these bigger projectsdifferent like adding. I know we talk
about additions, even not necessarily likea like a large addition, but maybe
like a smaller entry way or youknow, I think of like I've only
got one kittle, but I seesome families with like they've got like four
or five kids, or they've gotthe grand kids coming over and having that

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entryway, whether it's in the frontor maybe even off to the side where
like kids could come in and dekid and like get ready to come into
the house and not bring all theirdo you guys do a lot of those
type of projects we do, andthey tend to be on you know,
a lot of the smaller houses downtown. I was talking about tweeting between the
lakes on the mismister. We've donethat addition several times, whether it's in

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the front of the house or theback of the house. Let's see,
the last one we did was entryslash laundry slash powder bath. I mean,
it sounds like we got a lotof stuff in there, but if
I was guessing, it was alittle over one hundred square feet maybe one
hundred and twenty square feet, soit's not like a huge space. You
sort of maximize all this. Now, if you've got a small house down

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there, you're used to dealing withsmall spaces and you don't need an eight
foot long bank of lockers. Youneed a place to sit down and take
your boots off and hang up youryour stuff. So getting that downstairs bath,
we've done that tiny addition quite abit to get a powder bath on

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the first floor in one of thosesmall houses because the two stories down there.
If you own one, you knowwhere they are. The bath is
upstairs, that's it. And soit's with an aging population or or just
a younger population that's adventurous. Youcan get people break a leg once in
a while or something. Life happens, and getting up and downstairs gets to

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be really tough. So getting ourfirst floor bathroom is really important to a
lot of people. You know,we were talking about, you know,
like Middleton neighborhoods, and then youmentioned Isthmus as well. Do we see
a lot of this too, issome of these neighborhoods and these areas that
have become very very popular, andthe homes are a little bit older,
and you know, I think ofyou know, previous generations a little bit

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more practical as far as every aspectof it is saying people saying, you
know what, we love the street, We love our neighbors, we love
we love the fact that we canwalk to the grocery store or whatever.
The reasons, various reasons saying youknow what, the one thing we don't
love is is how the house we'rein, saying okay, let's let's let's
make it so we can actually havea family in this house. Let's make

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this so we can actually retire inthis house. Those type of things.
Yeah, I think that bringing thosehouses. Uh. You know, when
when I first started working down there, you could buy those houses really cheaply.
I mean they were reasonable, andnow fixer uppers are pretty expensive.
So you can look at that twoways. Okay, if you're you're you're

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living where you want to live.You're getting down in those rings around the
capitol. Those those have gotten suchthey've got to be very desirable houses,
and so they're worth investing in.The houses built one hundred years ago,
the kitchen tended to be it wasn'ta common space, So I was tucked
in a back corner, hidden away. And you know, we've got to

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figure out ways to open things upand make it just a little bit bigger.
Usually you're hemmed in by something astairway or a chimney, and so
we opened things up where we can. We've learned to sort of design those
spaces so that they can work alittle better and accommodate people. People like

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to entertain. Also, it's notjust okay, I want to raise a
family there, it's I want tohave my friends and family over you do
bigger projects on a smaller lot.What about on big I mean. And
it's the other area too, Ithink of as I as we sit here
in Fitchburg at the radio station,it seems I drive away from Madison to
go home each day, and itseems like every time I drive that way
there seems to be new houses kindof popping up and remodeling going on.

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I see, I've told you thisbefore. Anytime I see one of your
trucks, either send you a pictureor shoot you a text when I get
home, because I see a lotof folks also, and some of the
you know, these going back tovery desirable. These suburbs are very desirable.
They've got the lot space. Andpeople are saying, whether they're getting
an older farmhouse or they're getting orstarting just from scratch, saying let's let's

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do this. And that's a verypopular option too, isn't it It is,
because well, it's so much easierwhen you've got more space, right,
not just in the house, butin a lot. A lot of
the challenge of adding on to housesin Madison proper are you know, lots
aren't really that big, and andthere are rules you can only go out
so far. And you know,whether it's a percentage of the backyard or

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whatever rule you're going to be upagainst, it's going to dictate what you
can do to that house. Youget out in the birds, they've got
a little more space. One thingthat's kind of happened also is people want
to live here. So there arepeople moving here from states where real estate
is worth more money. So ifyou're coming here from the East coast or
the West coast, you bring thosedollars here, you can you can get

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what you want. And people aren'tafraid to find a house they like and
add on to it or fix itup. Talk this morning with Mike two
egg of Edge Construction. If you'vegot that house, you're saying, you
know what, we want to geta little bit more space, make it
a little more conducive to where weare in our life. Mike and the
team at Edge Construction left talk withyou. I got to just pick up
phone, get McCall this morning.Six so eight six three six three three

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four. Read that number six threesix Edge. That's six three six three
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DELPHO number six so eight six threesix three three four three that number
six three six Edge dragging this weekwith Mike about some of the larger projects
that they that they do and thingsthat you can have done when it comes
to a Homer Model additions specifically andwhether you want to go up or out.
And I think UH talked about thisa couple of years ago. I
remember we we had talked about asthis kind of explosion was happening, with

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people saying, you know what,we want to do these additions and we
want to stay where we are andreally make this house a bigger thing.
And I think I asked the question, and I think I remember the answer,
which is yes. But is anyhouse potentially a candidate for expansion?
Obviously physical restraints you can't get tooclose abounds and every things, But like

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as far as structurally our most housesable to either add a second floor,
ad some type of addition, orhave some type of area you can work
at. I think I think mostlythere's there's there's always a way to do
it. There have been times whereit just didn't makes sense, like we
occasionally, okay, there's we lookedat up. I looked at a house

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several months ago as a big oldfarmhouse and it had been added on to
a couple of times. It lookedlike so it's kind of big, but
it's really disjointed, and it's justand we there was one for one of
the very few times, like ourour design staff, we just couldn't come
up with a good plan for thishouse. And our recommendation actually was because
the homeowner was already teetering do Itake this down and or or and build

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something new? Or do I tryto fix this? And you know,
you do have there's some guilt associatedwith just tearing down a house that is
livapoole. I mean, I getit, but it's not I guess.
We did come up with a plan, but the cost to do it was
just prohibitive. Like we're they weren'thammed in by anything else. The foundation
was fine, the the their setbackswere okay, there plenty of room.

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It's just that at some point thebudget just gets ridiculous. If you know,
this house was like I said,with all those additions and nothing.
There had never been a central planfor this house. And uh so it
was it was just gonna be toughto come up with a good one with
that. And we started off thisconversation talking about design, be honest with
you. I we'd love to,it's just you know, oh I've never

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I've never known not to give itto me straight. And that's that's one
of the things too, is iswe started this conversation talking about design,
and it really is you don't knowwhat you don't know. And that's as
a homeowner. What what always amazesme is is when you and I talk
each and every week, is there'salways and we've been doing how many it's

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been a decade, right over adecade. Yeah, So so the idea
that every week when we sit downand talk, there's something new that I
just find absolutely amazing and I getI get the opportunity to talk with you
each and every week. For homehome owners, you don't always know what
can be done until you start thatconversation. And do you get people that
will you know, they'll say,you know what, we know something something
needs to be done, we justdon't know what because a lot of times

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I have this vision of the personsaying, here's what I saw, here's
what I want to do. Doyou get the other side of that,
which is people come in and say, you know what it simply isn't working.
We know that there's that there's aproblem, we've identified that, but
we don't know that there's a solutionhelp us. I think that's pretty common
actually, because you especially if you'vebeen in a house a while, you're

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gonna you're gonna identify things you don'tlike, right, but you sort of
get this tunnel vision where you're justused to it here, and so like
when when when we come in andgo, okay, we've in our heads.
We might be thinking, okay,we're going to fix this, this
and this, because we've fixed itin one hundred previous jobs, and it's

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just a plan that was pretty popularpossibly when it got built, and it's
like, oh, if we diddo these things, that these are the
that's the best. Frick and Homersmight not realize that it's even a problem
because they're just you know, they'reused to having twelve inches of counter space
around there, so over you know, like they're like they've always made it
work, they made great food,and so it's sometimes hard to get out

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of that tunnel and come up withnew ideas. So like if the if
there's a great big wall walling youoff from the rest of life in that
kitchen. Homewners most times will go, you know, what is there anything
we can do about this wall?Like they'll get that, But it's it's
more of the nuances where might nothave occurred to them, I think,
mainly because they're just used to it. I look at too, that that

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project that you recently been working onin Middleton, and I look at I've
seen them before, and I seethat the end progress, and I'm going
and I don't know this, butif I were that homeowner, there's no
way I would have ever thought thatwhat you guys were able to do at
edge construction, I would have neverthought that was possible. Like I just
it's especially at the start, right, yeah, like how does that and

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and how I mean how does thatwork? I mean, yeah, you
sit down with them the first dayand you can say all right, let's
then and then you say, allright, we'll get to some ideas.
Here's some like I don't know whathappens between those two two points of like
how did how did you guys comeup with? That? Is what I
guess is my better question. Well, I think like, uh, when

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they knew they wanted the second floor, like that was the only option.
But you know, now you've gotto get a stairway going up there,
You've got to pretty much redesign everything, and once you get it into CAD.
It's really an advantage that a designerhas over just standing in the space
because when you have this top downview of things, you can you know

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what elements you want. You know, you know you want a couple more
bathrooms. Okay, we're gonna plunkthose in somewhere, and we can always
move them. We can just grabthem and move them and rearrange those elements.
It's just like in a kitchen,Okay, we know it needs a
dishwasher, a sink, of fridge, and a stove. Where are those
main things go. We're not gonnaput them all in a row, right,

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We're gonna We're gonna try and findgood spots for them and make sure
there's counter space around them. Andhaving that top down v really helps.
I I'm gonna get the gang topost up some of the renderings that we
did, you know, before weever got to contract, before we ever
uh started the project, because thatthat part of this business has really changed
things where now you can get apretty realistic view like I have so much

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fun going back and looking at therenderings and going, oh my gosh,
like, look at how close thisis. I'll tell you where it's helped
us in construction. Uh this lastweek when I was in there, we're
gonna we built a did some shiplap shan around or on the fireplaces.
Are very very happy they're ubing off. Don't I don't say their name.

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I'd say they're not to be named. It's just a cute couple of touches.
But anyway, So but I Iwanted to get an idea of what
the designer and the homeowner really feltlike. And I could actually page through
and and the and the designer hadour designer printed off like you know,
kind of bigger plan size pictures ofwhat all these elements were supposed to look

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like. So I had a goodidea of what the backsplash was going to
look like before we ever built it, and how that kitchen was going to
end up. And there was alittle h dry bar area off to the
side, and and okay, there'ssome floating shelves there. What what does
what does that look like? Andthen looked at the renners of the mantle
it you know what or for thefor the for the fireplace. Well,

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it showed me exactly what it was. So for a home owner, what
an advantage to be able to beable to see that in living color?
What about is we were talking aboutadditions as well as part of some of
these bigger projects. Let's say you'regoing out and we talk about I think
of you know a lot of olderhomes bathrooms were very confined. Can you
guys do on like a like ifif I I'm just trying to like,

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if let's say I do an actualin addition to your home, could you
add like a bathroom or kitchen inthat area? Like do you get that?
Like I'm thinking like plumbing and there'sthat's like a lot of stuff,
Okay, routinely routinely do it.Yeah, it's it's it's more common than
not to go, Okay, we'regonna put the kitchen out in addition,
or we're gonna build a master suitein the addition, and yeah, you've

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got issues to solve mechanically. You'vegot to heat it and cool it and
get water and pipes out there.But that's pretty routine. Actually, it's
it's not as big a problem asyou think is it and I as you
were talking there, I just thoughtabout one of the other benefits. I
know, one of the things withkitchen remodels we often talk about is,
you know, upgrading the plumbing tokind of standard, you know, current

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standards and the electrical those type ofthings. There's got to be a great
benefit is if you're leaving that stuffbehind, you're literally just just pulling that
old piping out. You don't gotto worry about and then now you've got
fresh everything is everything is fresh andnew in the in the new. That's
a that's a good practice anyway.Like you know, if we're if we're
doing a kitchen, we're gonna goback as far as we can and put

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new stuff because it's just like thisthing where you start adding on to it
and it's kind of an octopus thatgrows out, and it's just anytime there
are those connections, it's a potentialissue. I mean, not to worry
anybody, I'm not trying to dothat, but one it's just prudent for
us. Yeah, you know,I look, I go, okay,
we got one shot. And thenif this is a great remodel with good

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products, it could last thirty fortyfifty years. Uh. That's we expect
those pipes, that those all thosethings you can't see to last that long
too, and so we we gotto do that stuff. Talking this morning
with Mike two Egg, owner ofEdge Construction, we'll continue our conversation about
bigger projects. We'll do all ofthat next. In the meantime. If
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Online, Edge Construction Company dot Com. Ah one word Edge Construction Company dot
Com at delphin number six so eightsix three six three three four to three
that number six three six Edge.Just for the break we were talking about,
you had mentioned that oftentimes when you'redoing addition, it's a lot of
times it's it's kitchens and other thingsbeing included. One of the things that

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I do love is when I seeI see I think technology and just better,
better products and historically more efficient ones. I see a lot of windows,
and I think of like, asyou were talking about, kitchens used
to be very much like in theback of the house that were very much
closed up. If there was awindow, there's that one little window above
the sink, and that was it. And then I look at some of

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the projects and the additions that youguys have done, like with kitchens,
for example, is nice tall ceilingsand open space and windows that you can
I mean, the not only isthe design better, but the products available,
uh, and the efficiency of thoseto make them practical. Those are

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out there now too there and there'snobody that says, you know, I'm
really annoyed with all these windows.Can I get a few less windows?
It's just ridiculous. But yeah,and it's for a lot of reasons,
right we Okay, people think it'sfor natural light, which is great,
but we're going to daylight your spaceanyway. We're gonna light it, You're

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you're gonna be able to control it. We're gonna have all the lighting you
need. But there is something Idon't know healthy, If it's healthy the
right word to say, it's atherapeutic to look out of a window.
I love to look at that windows. I'm not spining neighbors. I don't
really have neighbors, but it's justgreat to be able look out and and
I don't know, see see thenature in the in the neighborhood. But

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I'm encouraged when people want to dothis because usually you're giving up something to
put in windows. So if you'rein a do you talk about a kitchen
where you're adding windows, I meanyou're giving up some cabinets, you're giving
up some storage, So you're decidingit's an active decision to say, listen,
I want to It's more about howthis space feels, and I'm willing

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to give up a little bit.On the storage end, maybe we have
Do you have too much stuff?Sean, I have too much stuff.
I do have way too much stuff. You want some of my stuff?
Well, wait with that too.It's with you think about With doing the
addition, is you can now kindof control much better how that's configured,
as far as where do you wantyour things to be stored, how do

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you want those things to be stored. Obviously with a remodel you can do
that as well, but you havemuch more control if you've got that completely
blank slate to say this is howwe want this space to work. It
is and and Homer's good through thisprocess of elimination a little bit or saying
okay, these are the things thatare really important to me. And generally,

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if you're making the kitchen bigger,which we do a lot of,
you're you're gaining some space to store. We have had homeowners that have joked,
you know, like half the reasonfor this model is to make me
get rid of some stuff, becauseyou know, I just had all these
things, and now if I getyou know, you don't get organized to
be able to store more quantity.You get organized to be able to get

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to the things that you use mostoften. So if we we we talked,
we've talked to other shows about allthe organizational stuff you can put in
cabinets. Okay, if you've gotspecific spots for things, then you're you're
not crowding those areas with a bunchof random stuff. So you technically can
get less in those organized spaces.But I don't think that makes sense,

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but it does. It's a littlejust more efficient use of of of those
options. And I've got to askand before we wrap up this week,
and this is this is kind ofjust something that that I do wonder about.
Is with additions, is there adifferent let Obviously there's there's always inspections
and those type of things for reallyobviously very important reasons. Are there different

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levels of of like I don't know, permitting's the word, or or obviously
if you're in a neighborhood that's gotcovenants and those type of things. Is
there kind of a different level toadditions than there are to to other remodels.
I'm not really but okay, butI think it's harder, uh,
for the for the inspectors, it'sharder for the people in construction. I

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mean, we we build a lotof new houses for other for some of
the for the new home builders inmass and we will frame houses for them.
It's a pretty predictable process, Likethe the an inspector walking in is
going to know in a new house, okay, those trustes are all going
to span, the weight's going tobe on the outside walls. You you
don't have to worry about transferring weightdown the middle as much and team loads

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are all normal. When you getinto an old house and there's nothing normal,
you got to figure out where stuffgoes. We've got a wall that
we're taking a little buring wall we'retaken out in an old house downtown Madison
in the next couple of months.And inspectors at plan review you as we
submit everything. That's how you geta permit. They wanted to know where

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that that weight was going, sowe've got to figure out We had to
figure out where transferred all the waydown to the basement and down to a
footing in the basement. So theinspectors want a lot of that stuff figured
out ahead of time now, whichI get it kind of streamlines the process
but makes me very glad that wehave designers in house. It's a great

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day to meet with those designers,meet with the team at Edge Construction.
All I got to do this morningto pick up phone, give a call
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