Custom Homes with Edge Construction

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Welcome to the Home Remodeling Show withEdge Construction on Newstalk thirteen ten WYPA.
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Construction is Mike two EG. Mike, how you doing this week? Great
Sean, It's good to see you, and we're going to be talking about
some of the steps in designing andbuilding a custom home. And you guys
do a few of these each year, don't you. We do. I
mean it's like one of ones andtwos kind of a it's not our main
business, but they tend to bemore How would i say this maybe more

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challenging stuff. It might be somethingon a lake or or it seems like
every year we tear down a houseand build a house, so it's it's
a little more involved. Or maybea country lot those are a little different
than than building on a fully improvedcity lot. So yeah, we do
we have got I think too thatbuilding with us is quite a bit different.

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And we'll get into all this,but just the design process is different
most new construction that that it's gearedaround getting into action fast. And people
you know will pick on builders becausethey have standard plans and things, but
you know, they also want toget you know, they want to get
the process start. They want toget it going, and the builder wants
to get it going to and youcan't do that when you're when you're starting

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from scratch on design and just fullydesigning a house from a scratch, it's
it's much it takes a little bitmore of a time investment. We see,
and then the work that you guysare doing, are you doing a
lot of new lots or are youdoing spots where folks may have had a
house previously and saying, you knowwhat, we love neighborhood love this.
We love all of these things.We just don't love the house. Maybe
it was poorly maintained. I mean, is it a mixture of both or

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are you seeing one more often thanthe other. It's kind of a mixture.
I mean, like for us,it's actually, believe it or not,
about half and half. We weuh, let's see, we got
we got another one this year wherewe're gonna tear down an existing house.
It's just uh, it's it's livedits life, it's been remodeled a couple
of times. We've been in there, but it's just not gonna make the

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grade this time. And it's fora homeowner that can can pull this off.
It sometimes can be a challenge.We did one. The last one
of these for us was the yearbefore last, so it's two years ago.
We was our last one. Itwas a great, big lot.
It was in Monona, big lot. I usually try to talk people out

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of this because I'm like, Ihate I don't want to be wasteful.
You know, if we got anexisting house, my feeling is usually that
we can. We can remodel itand and kitchen ninety percent of the way
there. This house was, Iwould I call them kid houses. I
guess I'm not convinced that what itwas, but that's what I think it
was. It was about one hundredyear old house on Manona, and it

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was a very reasonable house at thattime. It was a two story kind
of looked a little bit looked likea bungalow, I guess, or a
cottage, you know, the oldcottage. Look if you went inside the
the the extray walls were three inchesthick, so they actually had kind of
special lumber, smaller lumber, youknow. And then intrie walls were like

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an inch and a half thick,two by fours or two by twos turned
sideways, driveled on top, soyou got like two so it's really not
boy. You start looking at,okay, how much of this can we
save? And it just led usto to building a new house is the
And we'll obviously get deeper into allthis stuff, but I even just think
of like the designing of a newhome. I think for a lot of

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folks that's kind of the you know, that's the the dream ultimately, right
is it would be great to havethat opportunity to to just build everything exactly
how you want it, every everyevery aspect of it kind of gone through
and designed and for folks that geta chance to experience that. And do

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I talk about, you know,working with you guys at edge construction.
A lot of times people with newhomes, they're not particularly unique. I
mean they look a lot like someof the houses, the houses nearby.
You guys are, yes, workingwith edge construction and the design I know,
just like with you know, whetherit's a remodeling project. Same thing
with new construction is you're really lookingto make everything about that house unique for

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that for that homeowner. Well,and I want to think about it too
in terms of how much design you'reat actually how much time you're willing to
invest in design because my theory andhow I on the remotel side, because
that's where I live, is thatthe more design you do, the the
longer this this project should last.Right, because you're gonna you're gonna make

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this. You're investing in design justlike you're investing in in product. Right,
if you if you buy better products, your remodel should last longer.
If you if you purchase better flooring, hopefully it's better quality, it's going
to last longer. The same withcabinets and countertops and everything else. There's
there's ways to kind of cheap outon that, Like you can you can

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on the stuff you can't see.You can put in cheaper ware, you
can put in cheaper plumbing pipes,you can put in cheaper valves. You
can put all this stuff in there. But in my mind then it's like,
Okay, maybe some of that stuffisn't going to last thirty forty fifty
years, you know, and that'sgoing to drive another remodel at some point.
Same thing with the design. Ifyou're if you take your time on
design, if you invest time indesign, you're going to catch more of

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the things that that that will forceour model down the road or or you
know, you if you talk toanybody that's through the building process, they're
going to tell you, you know, if you ask the right questions,
they're going to tell you, Iwish I would have done this right,
I wish I'd done something different.And uh so we want to catch as

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much as we can of that stuff. And when you when you're gonna build
a custom house, we're going togo through this design process from from ground
up. You need to take yourtime. If you're gonna build a plan
that's been built a hundred times.Guess what, there's an advantage there.
Some of those things are going tobe ironed out on our side. We
call it redlining. So we builda house for somebody or even another builder,

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we're going to go back to themand say, listen, next time
around, you need six more incheshere, or you know, we we
whatever the issue may be, it'sgoing to get ironed out the more times
you build that house. So whenyou, yeah, when you build that
custom house, you really do needto spend the time up front. Do
folks come in like start from scratch? How does that process work like like

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because obviously we talk about it withwith just general remodeling projects and kind of
going through that process with the withthe with a new home and designing and
building a custom home. What arewe what's kind of that starting point there?
Right? Well, so let's see, uh, let's see three three

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ago, somebody came in and said, I want to I'm on a ranch
house, I got four kids,I want this many bedrooms, I want
them kind of all up front,and we're in the same area. Okay,
we were having trouble find and youknow it is really nice to be
able to start with some kind ofstarting point. And there's there's a few
search plans house plans online you willfind uh literally you know, millions of

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them, and that kind of isthe general way to go. But starting
from a scra it's it takes quitea bit of time. There's a lot
of cat time. I always think, like even to draw to modify a
uh an existing plan, like saywe find something at Homer this year,
I found a couple of plans,one very different plans by the way.

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One was the initial one was kindof a modern plan, like I mean
not a modern house, but itis a craftsman style house or praise style
house, but it but it wasit was a recent draw, so it
was very open, had had hada lot of the things that people expect

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to see in a brand new housenow. Uh. But one half of
this couple was uh liked a moretraditional look and and kind of felt that
the super super super open concept wasn'tas cozy, it wasn't as warm,
and I, you know, Ibought in. I thought, you know
what, she's right, this isa maybe we need to look in a

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different way rather than trying to modifythis this brand new plan. So,
uh, they did find a planonline. They want, you know what,
we really like this, A bunchof stuff has to change. So
basically then we redraw the house andstart over. Just when with this,
obviously I think of working with yourdesigners and other things. And I know
obviously you guys are very much onthe on the building side involved, and

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there's always some architecture I think isgoing on. Obviously with this, I'm
guessing the designers are working very closelywith with architecture, architects and other things
very much so. And so ifyou again, if you start this down
this road online, which a lotof people do now, it's just it's
just too easy, or it's easier, I think, to find what you

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like. If you search like Googleimages and a traditional house plan, traditional
ranch, you'll just get a pageafter page of houses. If you click
on one of those, chances areit's going to lead you to architect or
a firm that has drawn a bunchof plans. I always get a kick
out of how even under that setting, you'll those those people have a style,

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right They're they're not they're there,It's clear they have a look that
they like and it kind of permeatesthrough their stuff. So what I'm getting
at is, when you find anarchitect or even a builder, it's nice
to be on the same page.You know, you should like the same
things. I think it's really toughfor whether you're on the design side or

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on the construction side, to beeverything to everybody, right, Like you've
got a really traditional one here anda super modern one over here, when
people you know, the super ultramodernones. I mean, I think I'd
like to build it just because ofthe challenge. But me personally, I'm
going, oh, I don't know. You know, we have so much,
we have so many, so manytraditional, beautiful houses in Madison.

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I sometimes wonder, you know,if it's if it's great to put a
totally competing style right next one.Speaking of style, are there rules at
all for different types of styles fordifferent neighborhoods I think of Obviously newer ones
have certain rules, but are someof the older neighborhoods as well, or
anything in that in that area verymuch so, so if you, uh,
if you build in we work ina lot of these neighborhoods downtown.

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Some of those have historical districts whereyou anything you can see basically is going
to need some kind of approval,and there are pages of rules for these
things. So from picking out apaint color or a siding color and style,
to what the windows need to looklike from the outside of the house

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or the roof if you're building inyou know, we've we've done a fair
amount of modeling and in some ofthe Lake neighborhoods like maybe Maple Bluff,
I'm there. Even if you're goingto roof your house, you've got to
go through a board and present theproduct. And uh, you know,
they want to know that you're areputable contractor and approve colors and things like

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that. I mean, there's reasonsfor all this stuff. Uh, the
new neighborhoods, you know, youdon't if you're in an old neighborhood with
no rules, you can paint yourpaint your house Viking purple. Right,
I'm not sure I'd want to livenext to it. So you know,

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you have the freedom there to dowhat you want. But but these new
neighborhoods are usually there are some rules. It's it's interesting. I live like
right near the city and then thenext kind of unincorporated town is like like
a block away from my house.You can tell when the rules kind of
change. Yeah, they're like whatever, whatever you want to do, it's
it's fine with us. So there'sobviously a place for all these projects,

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are there different? Speaking along thoselines we talk when we talk about remodeling
in general inspections and those kind ofthings, I've got to guess there's a
whole other layer with with new construction, isn't It isn't there there are?
It's in so many ways. It'sit's so much easier because we can all
we can pre solve those problems,you know, because we're building it in

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CAD, right, so we're weknow what the beamloads are gonna be.
We're gonna we're gonna do the mathand figure stuff out. Versus on our
modeling side, we you know,we don't always know what's behind that wall.
You know, We've we've got onecoming up. We can make good
guesses, right I can. I'mI'm a good guesser, and I'm gonna
use you know, there there aretools that can help you do that.

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But we're we're we have a verybig country model going on right now.
That started a few weeks ago,we're through demo and we're framing and one
of the last things that's that's gettingframed is a uh a patio door is
going in off of off of abedroom and it's brick outside. So we're
I think we're procrastinating this cutting thiswole, but it's going in underneath the

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an existing window header that we can'ttell what's there. So last time I
was there, I said, okay, guys, we got to peel this
off and see what's there. Becausewe I don't know what's there. We
can't guess. I don't want to. I don't want to have a problem,
so uh, we'll do our duediligence. Now it's it's a little
tougher on on the new construction side. A lot of things are engineered right

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so when we we dropt in,CAD will size all size the beams.
U we send it off to anengineer that figures out that row system.
So that's all done. They wecan hand paperwork to an inspectrum and go,
okay, this is how this ishow the loads transfer, and it
puts them in a very comfortable positionso versus on their miling side. It's

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just really not like that. Inever thought of that, Butmic's perfect says
that is really really cool stuff.So we talked this morning with Mike two
weg, owner of Edge Construction,the website edge Construction Company dot com.
That's Edgeconstruction Company dot com. Tellwhat number six So eight six three six
three three four three that number sixthree six Edge talk about creating that floor
plan and some of the stuff thatgoes into that design. We'll talk with

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Mike about that next as the HomerModeling Show with Edge Construction continues. Right
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great ideas, been thinking about doingsome remodeling. All I gotta do is
pick up phone, give me callsix eight six three six three three four
three that number six three six Edgetalking about designing and building custom homes this
week and left off just talking aboutsome of the permitting that goes into all
of this stuff. And we'll leavethat there and we'll pick up with the
stuff that we really want to talkabout, which is kind of creating that

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floor plan and creating that overall design. And Mike, we are talking in
that last segment just about you know, uh, exterior and some of the
things if you're in certain neighborhoods,have got to got to apply. Interior
of the world is always your oyster, Isn't he can kind of do what
you like, can't you? Itis? I mean, we're we're very
used to designing those spaces. Andyou know, since we're talking about designing

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that new house or what's the startingpoint? Really the the starting point is
what was called the footprint. Sothat's like if you peel the roof off
and you could. You could beup above this house and look down.
You're gonna you're gonna see all thosewalls of the cabinets, that layout.
This This is always uh, youknow, whatever plan you're gonna find to

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start with, if you're going tostart that way, you're not necessarily going
to find this perfect look, right. And I think for for people now,
you know you're so visual. Alot of times you're people. We'll
have Homer that'll find a plan.They'll go, well, I like this,
but I don't like this. AndI always think, Okay, you
got to start not worrying about whatthe outside of that house is going to

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look like. The inside the layoutlike that's where you're going to live that
we really have to get that right. And then when that's all right,
the the the clothes that that houseis where is going to put on right?
That can change that. We canwe can modify those looks. We
can we can change the roof,we can add a get a bigger porch
on there. We can make wecan make things appeal to you on the

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outside. It is hard for peoplesometimes to get past that because you know,
we're spending all this tough time upfrontgetting that footprint just right, let's
talk about kind of putting that footprinttogether and and and what that's what that
conversation is like. Now, obviouslyhouses they should all have, you know,
like a living living area, kitchen, place to eat, bedrooms,
bathrooms, those type of things.But how that stuff is all configured in

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proportion. That's really an individual kindof area, there isn't it. It
is, And there's there's a lotof talk up front about how what's what's
going to happen in this house?You know, if you do have a
family there, how's this going towork? Ranch versus two story? Right,
Like a lot of a lot oftimes it's it's just preference, but

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budget really plays in because you've goton a ranch for the same square footage,
you have double the foundation, doublethe roof, a lot a lot
more concrete, so the cost perfoot is higher, right, Not that
we really figure it that way,but it does have a big influence.
Sometimes a lot makes a difference.So for a homeowner, that's that's say

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my age, I'm going you knowwhat, really been nice not to have
to go up a bunch of stepsto get to your room. So you
a first floor or or a firstfloor master suite or ranch house is getting
pretty apealing. And it's not justme. The stats say when they survey
homeowners that that most homeowners would aranch house makes a lot of sense.

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You have a ranch house, right, I do, and I love it
downstairs. It's really great exactly someof some of those things that that play
in. I mean we talked howmany of our shows are last ten years
have been on kitchens, right,Oh, so kitchens are you kind of
the way the way that we designnow is we we try to centralize the
kitchen. It just makes a lotof sense. And there's just a lot

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of variables there as far as asize and what you want in there.
But and we can get into that. What about too, as you were
talking to about kind of that thatthat floor plan and that kind of doing
that. What about like the landitself is obviously if you're on an existing
lot that that had an existing home, it's probably ready for a house.

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But not all lots are perfectly madefor every type of house, are they?
They're not the the country house whereyou've got you know, we're setbacks
on a problem. It's it's nobig deal. We have an addition that's
going to start this summer, probablylate summer, where every inch matters,

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and we're there's a setback of threefeet on one end, so that means
from the true lot line, whichwe have to have survey because it's it's
really that close to the farthest pointout of the house, so that's where
the eve comes out, and evenan eavestrough can impinge on that. That
on that setback, we have tobe very We've got to nail it.

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We've got to get it just right. And so the lot can make a
big difference. If you've got slopeto your lot, well it it.
There's advantages to that because if it'slevel upfront and slopes away in the back,
great, you can have some exposurethere, maybe a walkout pretty desirable
if it slopes to the front.Okay, now what we've got, we

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might have a little steepness on thedriveway. I think the limit is fifteen
percent grade. I do know anotherbuilder friend of mine that built on a
country lot and got busted on thefifteen percent rule and had to use up
a bunch more land by bringing thatdriveway back and forth to ease the ease

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the angle up to the house andI didn't laugh at them, but I
was kidnaped a little bit, like, hey, dude, you know this
is something that was pretty important,but it happens. You know, things
happen. So with that, aswe talked to about kind of that that
you were mentioning, kind of theincline and kind of that great you know
some houses if you've got the ink, like you're on a hill, you
know, coming to do things likelike water mitigation. I mean again,

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these are things that we typically wetalk about remodeling. We were not talking
about what's happening with the with therain water, but obviously on a new
one, that's got to be partof the like how are things gonna so
you can keep that basement and everythingdry? Right? Very much So,
sometimes neighborhoods in the cities are thereare low points where when there's a big

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rain, somebody is the unlucky winnerof all that water. We actually have
one in design right now that isuh tearing down in Monona, and it's
this situation, Uh big lots,huge, huge lots. But if you
look at how it's sitting pretty muchevery it's in a bowl. And uh

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so we've got to deal with that, meaning we probably have to have that
engineered a little bit. Uh,somebody's going to get all those grades in
and take a stab at where thatwater is going to go, and maybe
we have to put a soale inand divert some water around the house,
and it's probably going to influence thesize of the house that they can actually
build on this lot. Interesting.As we talked this morning with Mike Twek,

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I haven't talked about land great oranything like that for a long time,
so it's always good stuff to hear. As we talked with Mike two
weeg, owner of Edge Construction,talking about designing and building that custom house.
Of course I've been thinking about doinga custom home. Mike and the
team at Edge Construction would love totalk with you. I'll just pick up
phone, get McCall six so eightsix three six three three four three that
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word Edge Construction Company dot com.We'll continue our conversation with Mike two wigg.
Next has the Homer Modeling Show withEdge Construction Company continues here on thirteen
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that number six three six Edge talkingthis week about designing and building doing that
custom home, and for a lotof folks, myself included, that's kind
of the ultimate ultimate dream is toactually get a chance to sit down and
design and build that custom home andMike for that, and we talk about
the planning and the design and allof the upfront work that goes into it.

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Talking about executing that dream, youreally want to make sure you get
it right. What's kind of thattimeline for from let's say I walk in
today and say I've got this idea, what's kind of the average timeline for
the day, hand over the keysand say it's yours. We gotta do
lots of math. Well, soto get to where we where we're talking

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about with a finished plan, Ithink a good goal is is a couple
of months. And for some peopleat the start of that they might think,
well, that's that's a while.It goes so fast because we're gonna
come up, We're gonna together comeup with that initial plan, we're gonna
figure out how to modify it.We're gonna make those modifications. We're gonna
give it back to you. Letyou have some reaction time, and for

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some people that's a day, sometimesit's a week or two. Were we
wait, then we wait for youto come back. Then we come back,
Okay, we want to change afew more things, and then hopefully
after a couple of months that's prettyfast tracking, we've got to finished plan.
Then we start the rest of thisproject. Now we're now we're figuring

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out what we've got to do here. We've got to we might have to
deal with the city on something.A lot of times we we will.
We will. If you've got powerto your house up high, like on
a high line, we'll off thepole. A lot of people want us
to bury that. So we startthat process, and there's a permitting process
there. The country house that we'regoing to be taken down this year and

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building a new house in his place. We've got some other due diligence there.
We've got we need a new septicsystem, so we've got the start
of a country project is probably asanitary permit. Without that, you can't
get a zoning permit and we'll talkabout what all this stuff is. But
and then without a zoning permit,you can't get a building permit. So

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I would say four or five monthsto dig is is pretty good. You've
got to move unless it's a reallysimp simple, tried and true, been
built a few times house and thenmaybe five six months to build it.
I guess last year we built apretty large house in a little less than
six months, So you know,it depends on how the process goes,

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but it's really good. What aboutis I think about all the different op
when we talk about like a kitchenremodel, when we're talking about a customer
hold all those things exactly, everylittle detail and for that and we'll talk
about some of the some of theglitzy fun stuff like countertops and stuff like
that, But what about even someof the less glamorous things, like like

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the mechanicals. Is that is thehomeowner brought in on any of that stuff,
Like like you know, I knowthat there's like water heaters for like
certain sinks, maybe you want onesthat are instantly on or what type of
stuff. I mean, the homeownersbrought in on that part of the conversation
as well, Yeah, they are. So what we're gonna start off doing,
you know, we we we willthrough that design process, we might

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say, hey, do you wantto do you want two zones for heat?
Right, if you've got to finishedbasement and you and UH upstairs on
the same thermostat, you can makeit work. I'm not saying it's a
bad system, because it is aninvestment to UH to change it and have
a separate thermostat in the basement andwent up top. But we're gonna we're

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gonna offer those things. We mightstart off with the norm normal system,
be it plumbing, be it heating, be it electrical, and then we'll
option a bunch of things. Soyou mentioned instant on hot water. That
is something that I would really loveif I had a you know, a
bigger house. You know, ina ranch house, you can be fifty

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or sixty feet from that hot waterheater, so you're you're just running all
that water down the drain until thehot water gets there. So there are
ways now to we call them recirculationpumps, research pumps. You can actually
have a you can have that pumpunderneath your sink, and some systems will
actually use the cold water run asa as a return pipe just to until

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you start using the water. It'sreally ingenious, I think, and people
will ask, Okay, now,heating water all the time, does that
waste energy? Well, not asmuch as you think. It's a pretty
little process and it's not like you'rerunning hot water all the time through there.
But you're also wasting a lot ofwater when you just run it down
the drain. So there's there's definitelygoods and baths to both both things.

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Well, I think about too withwith you know, you're returning warm water
to the water heater, so it'snot like you're having to start from that
cold tap to to heat. Soit's like when you get in your car
and uh, you know, thefirst time you discover that that recondition that
recirculating button, you're like gets muchwarm and much faster it reeating there.
That's in here speaking of air andand comfort and that type of thing.

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Obviously there's a lot of different heatingsystems as well to investigate. Obviously,
four stairs probably am I right,probably most common. And then it is
radiant and we do get asked aboutradiant heat. It's it's probably the nicest
heat there is. You know,like if heat is coming up through the
floor, you can do a hotwater system, run pecks pipe. There's
a couple of different ways to doit. It is pretty pricey and and

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you still have to have You're gonnahave to have some way to air condition
this house. So you're gonna havea you're gonna have you're gonna use this
system with a with some kind ofrecovery pump on it. You're gonna you're
gonna have a basically a four stairsystem without the furnace part pumping ore.
So it's almost like having two fullsystems. I don't know if I I'm

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a little torn on it. Mytheory I guess is, uh, when
when I build something, I liketo what I call super insulate. So
instead of a minimum or nineteen wallout outside sidewall, I like to get
up to around thirty maybe a coupleof inches ridge and foam around the outside,
that house is gonna heat much differently. We had the house that built

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last last year was the great ROOMAis a pretty large ranch. Great room
area was about and kitchen and stuffwas about twenty five hundred feet. I
was in discussions with the homeowner thiswinter, they said they can one vent
open in that whole area just toheat that with us, well, this
house is a lot more efficient thanI thought. So you're it wasn't the

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coldest winter, so you know,you got to caveat in there. But
a lot of what I'm getting atis heating systems are are kind of geared
towards the norm nobly normally, andeven even the your discussions with an inspector,
they want to they do a heatcalculation and you've got to be able
to push this much heat for thismuch uh square footage, And I think,

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well, those numbers aren't great ifyou super insulate, because you're probably
gonna have a furnace that's bigger thanyou need, which you know Americans we
always like bigger and better. Butin this case, it's not that great
because it's not running enough to torun well. So this is a it's
I don't want to say it's ait's new thinking, but we're working on

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it, and we're working out withthe inspectors, and when we make our
case and we try to size things, we really want to get it right.
I think there are the future isby the way on smaller houses.
Say, you know, if weever build, if it ever gets popular
to build thousands square foot ranch houses, we can probably do a great job
of hitting them with with one sourcelike a mini split. Uh, if

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we super insulate, because it's justnot going to take much to to get
this house comfortable. So that it'sI don't know if that's a long,
long answer to a complicated question.Well, it's it's important. Well,
it's it's interesting. It's an importantone too as we talk about something important
things about designing that that that thenew home and the custom home. What
about I know, a lot ofmodern furnaces now we were talking about water

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and recirculating always on hot water.A lot of furnaces now have that nice
option right where it's it's like ittake can take the warm air and it's
just kind of gently heating warm air. Am I remembering that writer? How
does it? Well? Yeah,that's kind of how we've gained a lot
of efficiency in furnaces because the ideais that they're running more, running more,

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but they're not they're doing less.So you're you're bringing in on return,
are you bringing in whatever seventy degreeair? And if you're set at
seventy two. It's it's just it'sit's it's just going up a little bit.
The challenge with that is to makethe house feel comfortable. Okay,
because I don't know about you,I I I'm a little funny about I

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don't really like lukewarm air blown atme, like if a cold I want
to go to someplace where it's warm. This is a this is the challenge,
right. Uh. That's why yousee a lot of fireplaces in house
because it's it's like, okay,we can we can heat this house super
efficiently, and then the space wherewe're going to spend a lot of time,
if we really want to jack itup a little bit, we can

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just turn on that fire. Butbut if you're you know I mentioned super
insulating and you know good windows,Uh, you can you can really make
that house feel a lot more comfortablewith the existing system. Really good stuff
this morning from Mike two, ago owner of Edge Construction, talking this
week about designing and building that customhome. We're going to continue our conversation
with Mike. We are going totalk about some of those little details,

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the things that catch the eye,the things that when you have company over
they go, oh, my goodness, or when they pull up to your
house they go, wow, thatis beautiful. We'll talk about those things.
Next is, of course, aswe chat with Mike Twoigg of edge
Construction. You can learn more onlinethe website Edgeconstruction Company dot com. That's
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And some really really cool projects alsolinks there Pinterest, Facebook, and
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Maybe you are thinking it's time tobuild that beautiful dream home, that custom

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home. Uh, that's a greattime to give them a call. Six
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Talking about some of the business sideof things that that's important. Let's
talk about some of the some ofthe stuff that makes you go wow,
and and those areas we're talking aboutsome of the different selections and things to
make when it comes to doing doingthat new home and having that custom home.

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This is the area where I thinka lot of folks have just a
just a ton of fun. Isbeing able to you know, you're you're
not trying to match or fit inwith an existing like. You can do
what you want to do because you'redesigning every aspect of it. I've got
a guess that for the designers andespecially for the homeowners, it's got to
be a lot of fun with acustom home. It is, but you
know, designing a whole house atonce can be kind of overwhelm answer.

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And so because now throughout this process, most people are going to get online.
They're gonna get on the house,They're gonna get on Pinterest, They're
going to look at stuff like oursite. Uh, and they're going to
find out a lot of stuff theylike. And I was kind of equate
it to uh, you know,every every new car looks nice, right,
I mean, Uh, if somebodyis going to give us a new

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car, it really wouldn't matter whatit is. We're all gonna we're gonna
be happy because it's gonna be anew car. It's gonna look nice.
It can be it can be toughbecause if if you like everything right,
uh, you've got to start todefine your style a little bit and get
a theme going in this house,Like what do you really like a little

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more traditional, more modern some ofthat some of that we've talked about that
modern farmhouse style or a little morecontemporary, which things seem to be kind
of just edging that way a littlebit. It's putting a Swiss on things.
Uh. And do colors. Youknow, if you go on our
website and probably a lot of others, you're gonna there's a lot of bold
colors and kitchens. Now, okay, do I want to do that?

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And if I do that in mykitchen. What do I do in my
laundry and my my bathroom? Sohow we do it is we try to
break this up a little bit.Okay, so we're not we're not necessarily
working on all the rooms in oneday. We'll do a few hours,
try and get the kitchen nailed down, and maybe flooring, you know,
in a bunch of the rest ofthe house that's doable. Right now.

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You now you've got one of theprobably the main things maybe nailed down,
and then another appointment or two ifwe need it, to get some of
this other stuff. Kind of thelast thing we're probably going to do is
get those colors going outside. Sowe want to tie that stuff together.
I I what I you know?You you sometimes have asked me what are

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the rules? Like? Well,guess what. It would be so much
easier if there were rules. Whathappened the way too? We talk about
design, I think a lot,and for good reason. We always like
to folks like kitchens and master baths, and obviously we see the great results
and and love it, but peopleforget like things like the powder bathroom,

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and the and the and the pantry. These spaces need to be designed as
well. And one of the thingsI love is, you know, you
don't want those spaces to be likethrowaway spaces either, like we'll just do
a basic, basic room. Ilove when I go to the website and
look at the work you guys havedone, and like pantries, for example,
I think of a pantry, it'sa place to put your food,
but it's also going to be awork of art. I mean, even

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again we talk about the design processtaking a little bit of time, even
on those things that seem a littlebit less significant really can create a make
a huge value for homeowners. Imean there have been fantastic kitchens that we've
done, but we did even morefantastic pantry and people are like all you
can see is like cause it's it'sa little bit unusual, right to have

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this beautiful pantry that you know,you go in there and it's like wow,
it's it's uh. I'm always amazed, Like we don't we don't see
those pantries getting looking like our pantry. You know, it's kind of were
stuff's just piled on the shelves,like there's there's it's uh, it's organized,
it's it's cool. There there's glassjars, there's baskets, there's all

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this neat stuff and it, likeyou said, it is a work of
art, and I know that's alot of fun for our designers and homers
both, So you don't want tooverlook some of the little things of course
as well as well. You mentionedthe the the I've just paid it quick
putter rooms. Yeah, that issomething that's creeping in and I know our
designers are going. When you've turnedout as much wallpaper as as us on

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the construction side of the years,you end up sometimes not being a fan.
But I will tell you that ourdesigners do not care if we don't
like tearing of all the wallpaper isis coming back and there are custom designs
coming out on the wallpaper now,which is pretty amazing if you're a graphic
designer like one of my nieces isshe she drew this really cool wallpaper and

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circulator amongst the family. And youcan actually buy this. You can you
can have this made for yourself.There are companies out there that will do
it. So neat stuff we're seeinga comeback in wallpaper, comeback in wallpaper.
But it makes sense that you mentionedthe customization hopefully in small areas like
potterbaths. Yes, that's a goodSPOTFU. Yeah, the easiest way to
remove aallpaper is with a sledgehammer.I'm convinced that he is my two eight

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owner of Edge Construction. Check outthe website Edge Construction Company dot com.
At website Edgeconstruction Company dot com atelephone number six O eight six three six
three three four three the number sixthree six Edge. By the way,
we just started this conversation. Wewill definitely pick it up next week because
there's a lot more to talk aboutwhen it comes to custom homes. We'll
do all of that in the nextepisode of the Homer Modeling Show with Edge

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Construction right here on thirteen ten WIB