Keeping Everything Running Smoothly

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Welcome to the home Remodeling Show withEdge Construction on Newstalk thirteen ten WYBA.
Have a question, email it toEdgeconstruction Radio at gmail dot com. Now
here's your host, Sean Friedel onNewstalk thirteen ten WYBA. This is the
Homer Modeling Show, brought to youby Edge Construction online. Edgeconstruction Company dot

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com. That's all one word,Edgeconstruction Company dot Com. Telephone number six
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remember it is six three six edgemetch the website. We'll probably talk about
some great projects recent stuff posted upat the website at some point during the
program, because it's always it's likethat shiny thing. There's that great distraction
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com always updating the website as well. Links there to Pinterest, Facebook and
a really cool one howse houzz Again, just head on over to Edgeconstruction Company
dot com. Mike, how youdoing this morning? Great? Sean?
How is it? That's gotta begreat? You know, you work in
at you work in a business thatthat provides shiny things. Those those just
beautiful distractions that you know, eveneven if you're not necessarily looking to do

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like a kitchen model or anything,it's always just so much fun to like
scroll through those pictures, see thebefore and see the after and just kind
of daydream. That's got to bepretty pretty exciting, pretty rewarding for you,
Mike. You know, I havefriends that don't get to see the
results of their work, you know, like they when you're in construction,

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everything you do every day is visible. So I I just you're watching this
project grow up and up and upand everything going there. And I always
think that's that's one of the greatestthings about this job is you you you
can never go home and go well, I don't Yeah, yeah, I
feel like I didn't. I justput another drop in the bucket, you
know. Uh so you make abig impact. Uh by the way,

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you know, I know everybody inthe world is saying they need employees,
and we need we need good oneswe train, and I think like people
underestimate how great these jobs are rightnow in the trades. And so if
you know somebody, somebody maybe you'vegot a niece or nephew or somebody that's
that's that's not sure what they're they'regoing to do by any any of the

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trades, not just us. Uh, there's a real need. And if
you're the kind of person that's goingto stand out doing doing whatever they're gonna
do, you're gonna stand out inthe trades too. And it really pays
off. I will say, okayversus Like I always make fun of Dale.
Dale's our master electrician as we'll bein the meetings and he's talking about
or I'm talking about this the stairwayand these beautiful cabinets and and I have

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everybody's attention except for Dale. Andthen as soon as the thing switches to
under cabinet lights, Dale lights upand like that's all he thinks about.
I couldn't do it because I lovethe art side of like what we do.
Like if you're if you're a carpenter, if you're especially a finished carpenter
or our designers, that's it's obviousthere's an art to that. But those

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of us on on the uh,the carpenter side, there's just uh,
there's always another level, Like there'salways a new thing, a new way
to do something, a better wayto do something, and you can add
your artistic flare to it. It'spretty amazing. You mentioned kind of adding
your adding your artistic flare, andand you mentioned being a finished carpenter as
well and seeing those finished products.It's it's amazing is actually having as you

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mentioned there, Mike, kind ofthat the progress and the complete it's tangible.
You're actually there's there's a start amidand a finish, and we're going
to be talking about going through thatthat process, talking about having a smooth
running construction project. And of coursewe've all seen TV shows or heard stories
of of projects that go awry andthey don't all run smooth, and there's

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there's uh, what's the uh thebest late of mice and men, the
best late plans of men often goawry. Yeah, it can happen,
but the important thing is having agood process, having a good plan in
place to really minimize and work toeliminate as much as those hiccups as possible.
And I think it probably all startswith that upfront conversation folks saying you
know, I've got this kitchen.You know that the drawers are sticking and

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they're not open or closing like theywant. But the finish is in the
hardware that you know some of thedoors are maybe hanging a little crooked.
We've got those those soffits that wedon't like. Kind of starts with kind
of identifying a problem, and thenthey say, let's start working towards a
solution. That's where the conversation withyou guys starts, isn't it. Yeah,
that's uh. With some home owners, it's like the reasons one through

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five why I hate my kitchen.Okay, the doors are falling off in
this offit's and and there's no placeto entertain, and there's you know,
like, okay, at some pointyou do need to start over. And
I think on that design side,like that design that from that first meeting,
I'll guarantee you the designer that I'mbringing along to that meeting has already
got ideas and is already thinking,Okay, if we change this and this

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and maybe open this up, theythere's gonna be ideas that you just haven't
thought of. And it's it isa little bit of a process to get
all that stuff out and and getthrough that design process, but I think
it's so worth it because on theirmodel side, like on our side,
on our model side, we spendtime on design I mean we spend on

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average as much time and design andthat I take that account design time as
from our first meeting when we showup with the door to writing a contract.
So like that's all now. Onehundred percent of that time is not
spent sitting down and doing you know, there's a lot of we change something
on a plan, give it backto you, and that you have some
time to react, So we justcall it reaction time. It gives you

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a little time to go over it. Oh sorry, Sean Ah No,
I was gonna say, as youtalk about some of the some of the
plans and and that that initial thing, you and I have a mutual friend
and and we'll call him Greg bfor just for sure. Technically a lot
of people know who that is.This past week, I was I was
scrolling through Facebook and I saw hehad posted something from from Thanksgiving and a

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picture of his kitchen. And I'mlooking at this kitchen. I'm going,
gosh, this thing is It's beautiful. And then I'm like, wait,
Mike did that kitchen? But howlong ago? That was a number of
years ago? I was, yeah, it must be five, six years
ago something like that. It looksbrand new still so radio. Yeah,
so Greg, that was an interestinghouse, and this this is you know,

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it's kind of gonna get to apoint on the design there, like
on on why it's worth spending thetime on on our side, on our
model side. We're not in thishuge rush. When you build a house,
by the way, it's fast.I mean, okay, the builder
will gets you in and I'm youknow, we pick on the builders a
little bit, but it's true.It's a fast process. Like they you

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roll up, they're like, okay, what size house do you want?
Okay, that narrows it down twostory or a ranch okay that narrows it
down a bunch. Okay, yougot these five plans to pick from.
Each plan has two or three differentkitchens, okay, which was okay,
Now we're gonna have a selection wherewe pick out everything. It's like,
oh boy, how much thought anddesign really went into that project? Not
much at all, not enough.So that house was built in the nineties

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and it was kind of a signof the times. That's how almost every
house built in that era nineties andearly two thousands, maybe up to twenty
ten, they sort of look likethis U shaped kitchen, patty door,
with a table in front of it, and it was not good to entertain.
It really wasn't good for you know'sa lot of corners in that kitchen.

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And so we did a bunch ofneat stuff there. And aside from
all the products, I mean,you can put cool products, you can
put great, great flooring and pickout a really neat backsplash in a kitchen
that's poorly designed, it's coming upwith the ideas to make that kitchen work
better. That's the real trick.So with that and we think about as

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you know, going back to thefive things people say that they hate about
that kitchen, is it is ittypically like when you guys are just in
the kitchen or we'll probably pick onthem for now, but any room of
the house, is it typically peoplesaying to kind of reach that breaking point
of I just it just can't goon any longer. Like okay, so
that one sticky drawer, that onethe one drawer that you got to use

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the butter knife the kind of pryopen, Like we tolerated that for a
couple of years, but finally whenwhen you know, like another poll came
off, that's is there, Likesometimes you see like the straw that broke
the camel's back, where people hadgotten gotten by with what they could for
long enough, or saying, youknow, at this kitchen's very very dated.
But and then suddenly something comes uplike now's the time. You know,

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it's there's kind of two things atwork. So one is the truck
has ball tires. That's what you'retalking about. Yes, yes, okay,
you're not going to make it toomany more miles. You're gonna run
out of gas, You're gonna thedoors are falling off. We see that.
That's that's occasionally it I think whatreally bothers people more is poor design.
You know, It's that it's thatfamily that can't eat together in the

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kitchen. It's the it's the terriblefor entertaining. You just don't feel like
you can get friends and family overand and do a decent job of it.
Nothing flows. I'm sure there we'dbe surprised that what fantastic food people
can cook in a terrible kitchen.Right good to Europe, I mean,
the kitchens are six feet long andthey make great food. So it's not

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necessarily that there are times where Iwalk into them. You know, we're
being shown a master bath that needsto be remodeled, and we open up
the shower and there's plastic tape tothe wall because the tile has leaked and
got rotten, or the groad hasgotten rotten and word has gotten rotten and
water's just passing through and making makingdirty spots in the ceiling underneath. There's

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those things that just have something hasto be done, and a lot of
us don't want to throw good moneyafter bad, so it's not like you
you want to you want to destroya work space, but you start combining
those things together. And you knowfamilies are tough on things. You've got
the boy over there. I'm surehe uh uh you know there. And

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you know kitchen cabinets only last solong, so like families, you get
a lot of use out of akitchen. Think how much time you spend
in there and what all happens inthere. That is a great point.
And you mentioned too that poor design. I think of like you mentioned some
of little seak shaped kitchens and yousee them, see them a lot is
they'd have that peninsula and then theywould put the cupboards like that would hang
down. It's like you've just reallylooking on that that weird conversation, like

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like whether it's at your home oryou're visiting some friends or family and they've
got that design and you're like,what is going on? Yeah, they
start a mirror that that peninsula withsome upper cabinets, and you you would
be shocked or maybe not shocked tosee how many houses we walked into where
homeowners got frustrated and just actually arethose cabins down? Yeah, they unscrewed
those and took them down and tossedthem just so that they could this kitchen

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can join the rest of the house. And that I think is a big
part of design. You know,we've remodeled kitchens that weren't really that old,
and the goal is always to getit to join the rest of the
house. So yeah, that's abig thing. That's an extreme right with
that the cameras hanging down, butthere's still a few, quite a few
of those left there are out there. What about with bathrooms Soon we'll kind
of walk through all the different differentareas that that kind of start to become

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red flags for folks. You mentionedyou know you're having to to seal off,
you know, using another shower curtainactually against the wall, or some
type of tarping with bathrooms, theycan look if it's one that's out of
the way. I know you've talkedabout this. If it's maybe you know,
the second story that the only onlythe family sees, probably doesn't doesn't
get as much attention. But likethe main level the bathroom that guests are

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going to use, it can reallymake it whether it's a bigger space or
a smaller space. Really having anew design and you know modern modern,
you know, uh facilities like thesinks and the other things. I mean,
there's just so many cool things outthere for folks, and it doesn't
have to cost a ton of moneyto do. To do for example,

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like that that main level bathroom.It's not generally a big, big,
expensive item to be working on,right, I mean, you're you're not
gonna you're gonna do that. You'renot gonna do the same things in a
master bath. It's probably smaller.And you know a master bath has that
has that that that deal where youwanna you want to really get that right.
For a potter bath or or moreof a common bath. One fun

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thing about those is you can youcan let the creative juices flow a little
bit it can be more of akind of a statement piece. You know,
you can take chances on design.You can use some products that are
maybe a little more a little fancier, like we've done several of those with
more of a furniture style vanity,and it's just a it's kind of a
neat thing. Is it becomes sortof a because it gets seen by everybody.

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It's not just a utilitarian upstairs bathor kids bath. You can you
can take some chances, you cando some things you wouldn't normally do.
And it's and the budget. They'repretty budget friendly because like you said,
they're not they're not big generally,they don't have the big soaker tubes.
There's just not enough room to doa big stand up shower, you know,
like tile showers and and all thosethings. It's just a little smaller

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space. And kind of that's commonthread through all of this is starting with
with good design. And I wonderMike too with that powder bath. You
often see that paired with something likewe're doing the kitchen, let's let's plus
this space, or we're going toredo the basement, or we're going to
redo the other bathroom. Let's kindof add that that seems like the perfect
kind of kind of add on toto any project. Well, and we're

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seeing that a lot more, whichI think is good because we're just in
a trend here where people I thinkare waiting a little longer between the remodel
and when they do it, it'sokay. They wanted to flow better,
and so it's not just like aflip typer model where we're gonna pull cannets
out, put cannants in, youknow, worry about a bunch of other

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things later. It's okay, howdo we really want this whole first floor
to look, because now's our chanceto get it all. This week,
we did another job just like thiswhere we pretty much remodeled the whole first
floor and a lot of that remodelwas refinishing wood floor and adding on to
wood floor that was already there.That's something we do in house and I

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was I was helping Kyle out therea couple of days ago. Is uh,
put the flip, put the finishdown. We use this really great
bonus product that that to me isreally a rewarding thing because now instead of
this flip idea where you've got okay, clearly you can see where somebody did
the kitchen and then later did maybea powder bath and some and some flooring
in the hallways and the and theentries. It all happened at one time.

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It really flows and now you candecide what you really wanted to look
like. Are those are those alsosome of those projects people are surprised that
maybe they hadn't thought of, including, for example, that smaller bath,
that the powder bath is part oftheir project, like, well, we
want to get the we want toredo our kitchen. And then when the
conversation starts and starts looking at someof the possibilities, people saying, you

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know what, this may be somethingthat is we hadn't thought about it,
but certainly fits with what we're goingto do, and since you got the
guys out there, it's making verycost effective. At the same time,
well, that is a thing thatwe will just always bring up because not
everybody realizes that if we're there forthe primary project, say the primary project
is the kitchen, we know that'sgoing to happen if we can price some

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other things in just to get alook at them doing them at the same
time. Okay, it can't belike we got to do the kitchen,
then later come back and do thebathroom. But if we can do it
all, it was I always figureon that secondary project, you're getting a
twenty to thirty percent break because it'sthe same people. Right for we're doing
drawwall in the kitchen, we doa little more in a bath I can

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give you a really good deal onthat. Same for installing cabinets and flooring.
When we when we just add onanother area, our cost a lot
less. It's just a lot moreefficient to do it that way. So
it's a it's a great time todo it. We bring that stuff up
to sometimes your designers will will drawthis stuff and give you different looks.
And homeowners are ahead of us onthis sometimes too, where they're saying,

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you know, we won't we gottado the kitchen, but can you please
show us what it would take todo this this other space. It's a
really good time to start that conversationtoday. Today I've been thinking about doing
summer modeling. My team left talkwith you. I'll get just pick up
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He's head on over to Edge ConstructionCompany dot com. Click that link
and you can see more projects thatthey've been working on. We're talking this
week about a smooth running construction project, kind of a guide and a roadmap
to that. And Mike, theword design has come up a few times
in this conversation. Good design leadsto good results, doesn't it It does?
I mean, I think that's thestart of everything. I I'm thinking

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back to most of my career,I enjoyed the glory of being the carpenter
that put everything together and didn't reallythink much about designers. In fact,
they were kind of a pain.They they always wanted you to do something
different and change something. But thatwas before I had designers working for me.
So now I don't get say thatstuff anymore. They're not a pain.
They don't give us weird stuff todo now they I it'd be great

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for the cartenters to take all thecredit over of these fantastic pictures online,
but we know without great design wehave, we don't really have a job
to do right. And so froma home owner standpoint, there's there's a
ton of benefits aside from being ableto see that end result that that was
better than you could have possibly hopedfor. And we hear that quite a
bit. It's that, Okay,most most people don't enjoy waiting through the

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ten thousand different options for tile andthe five hundred different options for faucets,
and good designers will. They getto know you, They get to know
your style, and then they thisthis this animal that is in CAD.
They know great ways to sort offilter out some of those things and narrow

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down choices. So when you cometo our showroom. Our people aren't going
to show you every tile in theworld. They're going to show you five
or or more if you really needthat. But we pulled from just about
every place in town. Our showroomis constantly updated, so we don't have

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things in there that aren't you know, you can go fancy, but most
of our things the challenge of thedesigners to find all the cool stuff that
also fits into Instead of fifty dollarsfoot tile, it's five to ten dollars
foot tile. So like all ofthose things going there, and it really
does need to be somebody's job.It's just a lot of work to do
this. Home owners have jobs inthis. Also, by the way,

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you don't get off scott free.You should be going online to play is
like how's hluzz dot com? Imean, that's the clearing house now for
design in our industry. So justa tremendous amount of pictures and you know,
things on there that you can seeand if you're searching for this certain

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thing, even if you don't knowquite what it is, you've got this
picture in your head. A lotof times on hows or Pinterest, I
think to a lesser extent you canfind those things in those places and it
can really help you. That inturn is gonna give your designer more clues
to how to make you happy inthe end. Just that with and I
think of as you mentioned, youknow, the importance that when you're working

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with the designer really helping kind ofnarrow that down is just the infinite selections
is you know you think about Icould even calculate how many if you were
to kind of go through how manydifferent variations on tile there are out there,
then you know, different fausets havingthat designer being able to kind of
narrow that down. The other thingtoo, as you mentioned, is with
hows I know with edge construction.In your house page, you get a

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lot of obviously a lot of localpeople on your page, but also international
folks from around the world. AndI guess that's probably going both ways.
Or probably times where somebody brings ina photo of a kitchen or has it
in there in their profile for housingand say I really like this tile,
well that pictures taken from a froma kitchen that was remodeled in Scotland.

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Well, how do you get havingthat knowledge of as far as a designer
that has a knowledge of Okay,I know what that is. I know
where to find that type of tile, that type of style, that type
of design that's available domestically and throughthrough sources that's got. That's a great
thing too, is again there's somany options. Having somebody that can actually
help you kind of narrow that downand acquire those those things. That's a

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big that's a big skill that Ithink maybe it's underappreciated something it does.
It does, and it's it's reallycool when when a homeowner invests in their
project like that, when they're willingto get out there and pound the internet
and find find some looks that theylike. Sometimes it's not perfect, like

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you're not even sure why you likeit, you just like it. But
a good designer is going to beable to help you and go, Okay,
I see where you're going. Wecan get you that look with products
we have here. Another great benefiton the product side to designer isn't just
weeding through all the options. There'sa lot of those options which we probably
don't want to install because it mightbe a quality thing, or or maybe

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it's not as accessible as you think, like maybe we can't get that product
very easily so especially now with supplytan issues, is it's gotten better,
like things are getting a little morepredictable, but they're still not where they
need to be. And so wedo need to think about, Okay,
if we order this product, we'renot going to show you a product that
we can't get. We're not goingto show you a product that's not going

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to fit your budget. We're notgoing to show you a product that we
have quality worries about. And andthat seems to be the next thing coming
in our industry is a lot ofthese a lot of these products are made
out of the country. They justshow up here, uh, price points
really good, they look good,but maybe they're not holding together over time.

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And and and that's another thing thatwe're always looking at. Just something
too about with you know, usingcat and other tools, is that design
is much more real than it everused to be. I look at some
of the renderings that you guys haveup on Edge Construction Company dot com,
and it's staggering the amount of realismand detail that goes into it. I've
got to guess for for homeowners andfolks going through the design process, actually

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having that that you know, thatthat image that they can rotate and actually
picture how everything we talk about,all those different options and all those different
concepts actually having them all come togetherand something before any any demos begun,
any anything is kind of put together. We can actually see that. That's
that's got to be really helpful aswell as the homeowner. That design process.

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I think it does. And increasinglywe we get homewers that say,
you know what, I just can'tpicture this. I need help. Okay,
wait, we have that. OurOURCAD programs now are have gotten so
good and those renderings. That's thecartoon picture I like looking at going seeing
how close we got, because there'sa lot of times we look at our
finished rendering whatever we went to contractwith, and if you hold it up

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in front of this kitchen, it'sreally close. I think it's the combination
what can really help you as acombination of holding those products in your hand
and having the rendering. So ifyou if you got that rendering there and
you're going, okay, I'm almostthere, I can almost visualize this.
Now you can hold a cabinet doorin the color that you're that you're interested
in, along with a countertop sample. That's a pretty good size, uh,

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and the flooring and whatever else goesin. There's some of these colors
and textures that that are are goingto end up on this job, the
backsplash tile that then it really helps, it really brings that rendering home.
Talking this morning with Mike two Egg, owner of Edge Construction the way website
edge Construction Company dot com. That'sEdgeconstruction Company dot com. Of course you
got some ideas, you want tobring those ideas into your home. All

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number six O eight six three sixthree three four three that number six three
six edge talking about kind of aroadmap and a guide for a smooth running
construction project. Talking importantly about designspecifically so far this morning, because it's
such a major part of the remodelingprocess. And Mike, I've got to
guess you probably work within the designersespecially work with a variety of different personality

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types. I know some people,my wife would be one of these,
wants to be very much involved withevery step and kind of like take yourself
on as like a team member andthat type of thing. There's other people
that just say these are kind ofour and correct me if I'm wrong,
these are our ideas. Let's seewhat you can do. I'm guessing it
kind of runs the gambut as faras how much involvement people want to have

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directly with that day to day design. It does. There are people that
are just not comfortable at all makingdecisions on that kind of stuff. And
we always hope, like if there'sa couple involved, one of them likes
to make decisions because it is hard. It is hard. When I should

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say this, when we have somebodythat's fully vested and very interested and really
buys into the process. I thinkyou. I think it's it's great.
It's easier for the designers because you'regetting feedback, you're you you, it's
easier to figure out what somebody likes. When when we get somebody comes in

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and says, I want to remodelmy kitchen, and I say, well,
have have you done any homework?Have you been out? No?
I have no idea? What LikeI said, Okay, I'm going to
give you some jobs. You needto be have some skin in the game
also, and so we try tocoax them along and get them involved in
the process because you know, you'reyou're gonna have to live with it.

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You're gonna want to live with this. We want you to want to live
with this for a long time.So you know, it shouldn't just be
somebody making decisions for you. Andit's an important relationship upfront that's being established
as we think about, you know, remodeling of your home and you know,
your biggest investment is your house.And you know, if you're blessed
enough to be a homeowner and youreally want, you know, these days

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we want and time in there.It's really something you want to make sure
that that's a that's a good solidrelationship. And I know one of the
things that you guys experience a lotat edge construction is folks who have you
come in Maybe you guys did theirbasement, or you did did a master
bath for him, and then acouple of years later they say, Mike,
we're looking to we're looking to dothe kitchen. Is having that relationship
and building that it's not just forthe one project. It generally leads to

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as years go by, people saying, oh, yeah, we we either
recommend to others or when it comestime for other spaces. A lot of
I guess they would call those repeatclients and that those are the best kind.
Or yeah, if I was,I just we were talking before and
went on house, and if youour first project down house is actually a
repeat customer. It's the green kitchenwith a unbelievable little pantry behind the kitchen

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that we got in there. Andanyways, we had actually done uh these
this couple's two upstairs bass a coupleof years before this. So that I'm
not saying remoeling is not It's atough process. Right. And and I'm
not saying nothing went wrong on thoseon those bass I'm sure something did,

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but they get the Homer's got theend result they wanted. I think they
were pretty happy, and I knowthey love their new kitchen and things like
that. That's very satisfying for somebodyin our business. It's okay, this
this procest the process is never perfect, but we need to overlook that a
little bit and get get through theseprojects and really get to the end result.

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If there are, if there isgoing to be hiccups along the way,
we got to realize that stuff happens. And it's very satisfying for us.
When somebody calls us back after ayear or two, I'll tell you
that that's and that it's so cooltoo to have that, you know,
to have people not only call youback, but also I know. One
of the big things that I hearfrom people all the time that have worked
with with you guys at Edge Construction, is telling other people about their experience.

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It's it's if done right, it'sit's one of those things that it's
you know, you're in your historyof living in your home, you're probably
going to remodel that kitchen once andyou want to make sure that it's done
right. And having people that aresaying this is you know, we worked
with Mike, we worked with peopleat Edge Construction. If you're going to
do it, these are the peopleto go with having that kind of response,

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and that reaction has got to be. As we're talking, I think
we've started talking about rewarding things.Talking about something super rewarding is having people
say, oh, I saw soand so's kitchen, or I talked with
so and so and they recommended you. Guys. That's got to be a
big, a big good feeling foryou. It's very nice. I mean,
and probably believe or not, abouthalf of our business comes from I

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would like to say it all comesfrom the radio, but it about half
is repeat customers and close referrals,and so much of it's going. I
think there's a lot of people thatare in their house going I can't envision
what I have no idea what todo with this place. And if you
get into somebody's kitchen that was remodeledand lots of times it's a similar house,

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it gets the juices flowing. I'msure. Talking this morning with my
two eight owner of Edge Construction online, Edge Construction Company dot com. All
one word Edge Construction Company dot com. Thinking about doing that remodel. Check
out the work at the website andthen pick up phone Gemma call six so
eight six three six three three fourthree that number six three six Edge.
One of the less glamorous but mostvital parts of remodel too is the is

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the B word, and that's thebudget. And that's one of those areas
where working with with a good designerthat understands your budget and looks at price
points, it's amazing what's able tobe done. And you know, we
talk about we were talking about designthere there are different types of you know,
a different types of materials, typeof things that can achieve the same

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look but at a different price point. And it's important to have that conversation
to say, and I know atEdge Construction that is a very important part
of which is talking about the money, talking about the budget in order to
accomplish a goal that is something inthat beautiful remodel job that everybody wants.
But budget really makes the world goaround on this stuff, doesn't it.

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It does. If you're not talkingabout money, you're not really talking about
anything. You probably wouldn't believe meif I said, well, most of
our owners come in and they say, we have an unlimited budget and you
take all the time you want,and it would be interesting. Yeah.
I think they picked me up offthe floor. Really, people don't want
to People tend to say the samethings. They don't want to overinvest in

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their house. They want to dowhat makes sense. We are totally on
board with that. We live innormal land. I like to say,
like most people live in normal land. And if you're trying to keep a
lot of a lot of crafts peoplebusy in this business, you have to
work in normal land. So really, when it comes to budget, the
you would alluded to a little bit, the discretionary money, and the money

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that you got to play with isn'tthe stuff you see behind the wall,
plumbing, electrical heating, all thatstuff. You really don't have much choice.
It's the things you can see.So if you're gonna save money,
uh, you know, if youneed to push the budget, it's going
to happen on countertops and to alesser extent, cabinets. It's it may

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happen on some flooring choices. Wehave a really good floor that we won't
go beneath if you if you're gonnaspend this money, and I have to
stand behind the product. I reallydon't want to put stuff in your house
that I'm that I'm nervous about thatI that I know is going to fail.
And so, uh, we don'treally, we don't really go below

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that line. Uh. I saywe don't really because occasionally we've been pushed
if somebody says, well, I'veused this product before and I really want
it okay, and it's usually amistake. Right now, I think we're
headed for a little minefield, andsome of the products out there. I
talked about it just a tadbit before. I think a good designer right now

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a and a good or modeling companyis worth their salt because they're going to
try and steer you around some ofthose pitfalls. Uh, these products that
look great but really aren't going tolast. You know, you mentioned kind
of living in normal land, andI know as Midwesterners we're very practical and
and you think about kind of beingsteered. One of the things that that
I know is important when it comesto design as well, is there are

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trends and then there are trends.There are some Sometimes you'll see things and
I some of these TV you know, these flip shows that used to be
on or just some of these otherTV remodeling shows. We'll do some of
these bonkers, kind of far outweird things, and you go, is
that really gonna stand the test oftime? And a good designer will not
only have design something that's going tolook great right now, but as as

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you know, you build for qualityand you build for longevity, that that
design is going to hold up throughthat lifetime as well. Yeah, that's
a great point. So the howhow long is that I don't know,
for lack of a better term,poor design going to last. So if
if if kitchens are being remodeled orare being remodeled because the tires are bald,

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that means you've worn it out.That could have happened prematurely because there
were poor products put in there,or could have just happened because it's fifty
years. And how long is thebass suposed to last? On? I'm
going to die at some point?And what really I think is painful is
when you have a poorly designed spaceand then nobody likes it, so it

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gets remodeled. Now, it's wasteful, right, we're throwing away good products
because we didn't spend enough time ondesigner. We didn't get with with somebody
that could help us maybe navigate thatpart of it. It's also very expensive.
With expensive doing things twice is nevernever the way to go. And
it's important to be working with agood designer and working with a good team.
The folks at Edge Construction left totalk. You've been looking to do

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some remodeling, check out the websiteEdge Construction Company dot com and then pick
up phone give a call six Oeight six three six three three four three
that number six three six. Edgewill continue our conversation with Mike Twig of
Edge Construction. We'll do that nextas the Homer Modeling Show with Edge Construction
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continues now on News Talk thirteen tenWYBA. This is the Homer Modeling Show,
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That's all one word Edge Construction Companydot com. Of course, tell phone
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six edge E d G E talking. We're talking during the breaks about you

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know, like vacation things, thosekind of things. And people all have
kind of their own you know,their own lifestyle, their own like things
that make them unique, things thatthey love. Does that come into the
design process as well? Like ifsomebody, for examples, way into like
nature and the outdoors, or maybethey're into like my my mother in law
loves lighthouses, she loves the Cand LFE house, Like, does does

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that ever come into like the likethe design process, Like uh, you
know, Like again I think ofif you're like very into like the woodsy
natural stuff, maybe more natural looksand natural design, does that stuff come
into like just kind of their lifestylesthat come into the conversational I think a
little bit. You know, it'sI think mainly, Okay, if you've

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got that interest in somebody, youshould you should definitely talk to your designer
about that. I mean, it'dbe a great idea to discuss that one
and go like listen, I likethis. Now. It doesn't mean you've
got a design lighthouses into the space, right. We had a uh,

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it was a house that we workedon a long time ago, a great
big house in the hills southwest ofMadison, and beautiful house, fantastic house.
And I remember coming back and uhuh did this fantastic huge cherry kitchen?
And I came back at some pointand they had the homeowners had taken

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this fake like grape leaf viny thingand put it all over their walls around
the kitchen. I thought, wow, you had that that did not pass
the design designer stage. So there'sthere's things that you maybe should you know,
I think you should let those yourpassions influence the design, but probably
not design design around them. Idon't know if I'm making that absolutely.

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Yeah, Like you don't want tobuild a build like a replica lighthouse in
the middle of you know, itwould be fun. What about though more
maybe a little more subtle, like, for example, lifestyle things like how
do you cook or or what doyou like to cook? That is that
is something that's definitely built in therevery much. And you know, the
thing is, now there are peoplethat I wish they didn't invite me over

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because they're they're like gourmet level cookingat at home, and they would they
have very they're very specific. Theywant to they want a kitchen that performs
in a certain way and products areimportant to them. And but I always
approach it from the other side andsay, okay, like we want to
do all that stuff, like it'sgot to work well for that level of

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cooking, but we also want itto be beautiful. We also wanted to
you're going to entertain in this kitchenat some point if you got kids,
they might be doing homework in there, and it's just and you wanted to
join the rest of the house.And so all those goals that we have
on every kitchen still still are there. They're still there, and you know,
we haven't talked about and we're probablynot going to get time to talk

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about universal design today or lighting oryou know, all the things that we
should talk about as usually you andI we start on and then we like,
oh, we had like fifteen sixteentwenty other things that we should have
touch that I would I would asktoo when we were talking about you were
talking about design, and correct meif we're not too long ago. You
guys literally designed a kitchen around arange. Was that where there was like

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a well very specialized cooking appor definitelyinfluenced the design, So like we uh
uh, it's right on. LikeMonona. We we tore part of the
house off and started rebuilding it backon, and we had a great big
sub zero fridge and a four footwide wolf of them that basically we had

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to we actually built, we builtthe addition back on around those products because
we didn't have a good way toget those in. Now I think they
probably can get them out if theyreally are motivated at some point in their
life or they need to for somereason. Hopefully I'm retired by that.
But it was just easier to buildaround them. So that was kind of
a fun, you know, funthing. But yeah, we did.

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Now that you can't put those kindof products in a in a normal smaller
kitchen, right, it's just gonnalook weird. So that was a pretty
good sized kitchen, and so yeah, I would say it it got designed
around those products. But to behonest, I was in that kitchen last
week, and because now that homeownerwants to do their master bass. So

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yeah, but they, uh,you know, those products look like they
fit. They look normal in thatkitchen, So they would in my kitchen
they would look kind of weird andoversize, but in that one they look
pretty good. And it goes tothe it goes back to the design process,
scale and proper size, and that'sagain going back to the art of
design. And we were talking abouta construction project. I think we just
touched on the very initial part.I have to do a complete series on

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this is obviously talking with like twoegg of Edge Construction. It is a
great day, but thinking about doingsummer modeling, it's a great day to
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