LTN RADIO NETWORK - April 6,2025

LTN RADIO NETWORK - April 6,2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
From various locations via the miracle of Skype.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
It's the lgn R.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Let's talk Nascar with your host Todd Bailing, co hosts
Brian Schmidt, PJ Newdleman, and producer Dangerous Dan Margetta. Call
the show anytime at four one four four two one
seventy nine oh one. And now the creator and host
of the Fastest Hour and Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Todd Marling.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Welcome to the program as we go to Darlington, the
oldest track there is nice of you to join us.
Todd Bailing in Phoenix, Arizona, my three Wisconsin partners standing
by and ready to go. Brian Schmidt over in Utzburg, USA, Hey, Budd.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Morning, We've reached April and there were actually cars on
the track in the area here yesterday up at Chilton
they had a practice, So we're so close to getting
racing going around here.

Speaker 6 (01:07):
Can't wait.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, the asphalt gets going in less than a week.
We'll be giving results from the Dells next week at
this time. PJ Noodleman over on the other side of
the state there on Hey.

Speaker 7 (01:18):
Hey, yeah, forty degrees here in Trampolo and the hubby
is probably going to be working on a truck that's
going to be racing at the Dell's.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Uh huh, Dan Margetta, who is in Saint Francis, I
think you are anyway.

Speaker 8 (01:31):
Yeah, good morning, and weather's fine here too. There's been
cars that slinger this week, and there'll be cars are
today's practicing and testing and ready to go. And I
don't care what Jase Elliott says. I like throwback weekend
at Darlington.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
It's okay, I guess. I mean yesterday, Brandon Jones was
supposedly in a car that was painted like Matt Kensett's
car from It wasn't his championship car, was it, Dan,
I don't think it was.

Speaker 9 (01:58):
Saul was a twenties. It was probably a General car.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, if you take the word Monards off and put
the word dollar General on there.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, and it looks like it. Yeah, I guess that
makes sense. Yeah, I don't. I guess it's cool. When
I saw the four car painted up like Sterling Marlin,
Ernie Urban's four car, that that was pretty cool. But
these other ones, it's a stretch. What is that supposed
to be? I don't even know. Whatever.

Speaker 8 (02:22):
Yeah, there are some that, you know, if they put
an effort into I think it's cool. That's why it's
not mandatory. If you don't want to do it, don't
do it. But if you're gonna do it, put a
decent effort in. I mean, Chase Ella does the bad
one today. It's supposed to be Kenny Schrader's twenty five car.
It doesn't look anything like it. No, you know nothing
about this minute, this throwback Weekend. I look at Kyle
Larson's car. It's Terry Lebonni. He's two thousand and three car.
That's not vintage to me. I guess I'm I'm feeling old.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Twenty two years ago. Dan, how do you think about it?
It's crazy, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
I still think Throwback Weekend was best when it was
during the Southern five hundred, because the Southern five hundred
is a throwback race.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
Yeah, And I know NASCAR because.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
There's not enough on them about their playoff system and
we can't have it during the playoff system.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
But I still think that was that was still the best.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Trying to do it this weekend and and you know,
force it down our throats now just doesn't feel like
a throwback weekend. Racing at Darlington, April Racing at Darlington
on Labor Day.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
That's throwback. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (03:16):
I think it's the way to get people that come
to the Spring Race. Though there's two races at Darlington.
You got the race five hundred is always you know,
they're Staple one and it's got the playoffs and everything,
so they make this race kind of relevant.

Speaker 9 (03:26):
They made it throwback weekend.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
I think what they should do is they should if
you want to do it and you have a decent
you should run the car number you have, so it
should match your car number. And I don't care if
we rerun them. Maybe put something in the person, say
here's the throwback bonus. You win the race of the
throwback scheme, you get an extra I don't know how
many more how much money?

Speaker 4 (03:41):
One hundred dollars, yeah, one hundred thousand.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
The other way to get down.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
There you go. Well, some people think it's really great.
I don't know. If it had the number to match,
it would make all the difference in the world. And
there were a couple of them yesterday that look pretty good.
We'll be televised today on FS one. If you don't
have cable or satellite, too bad for you. The Green
is at two twelve Central time today afternoon race, and

(04:09):
it's usually a good show at Darlington. That's a mile
and a third track, two hundred and ninety three laps
equals four hundred miles. The segments will be at ninety
and one point eighty five. William Byron is on the poll.
One hundred and seventy point nine zero four miles an
hour twenty eight point seven seven four to get around

(04:31):
the place, and it's usually a pretty good show. I
have been to this event, the spring event that I've
never been to, the big the Southern five hundred, the
one that has the romance attached to it, you know,
the oldest race and bomber around or whatever. I liked
the track though, I have to say also the last

(04:54):
time I was there, the backstretch was now where's where
I was sitting, and it's now the front stretch.

Speaker 8 (05:00):
So yeah, changes he think you were there? You were
there when Elliott ran out of gas right and.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Her last turn of the last yeah lap and uh
Earnard beat him and it was one of I believe
four straight for Earnhardt, which I think is the greatest
streak he ever had. So yeah, but it's a it's
a cool place to watch a race and if you've
never seen one, there there there's it's in the middle

(05:25):
of nowhere. There is a nice golf course across the
street where they have pretty big events, but uh, for
the most part, it's sand hills country. That's where they
grow tobacco down there.

Speaker 8 (05:35):
I thought, Aki, it's kind of got an old school
field to it because it's in the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 9 (05:39):
I've been at two spring races as well.

Speaker 8 (05:41):
I got a rider on that place with the petty
driving experience, and that was kind of cool too. I mean,
to go around you can see how it is kind
of hard to drive. And that was just in a
ride in a in a you know, a ride along car.
I can't imagine going full speed in an actual car.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
If you didn't scrape the wall, Dan, then you didn't
get the right ride.

Speaker 9 (05:59):
It is close.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
We did hit it, but it was close. Very cool,
So that'd be fun race to watch today. Kind of
a interesting race at Martinsville last week. Denny Hamlin wins it.
Brian actually picked Denny Hamlin to win. You can you
might as well take them all the time because you
know he's gonna win once or twice, maybe even more
than that maybe even.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Hard to believe it was ten years since he last
won here though, that was mind boggling. I think as
well as good as he runs there all the time usually.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, I be in a Virginia guy is that was
Richmond that he got booed at his other home track
right when he when he messed, when he had the
audacity to mess with Chase, Elliott.

Speaker 8 (06:38):
And Brian he gave us something to talk about. He
pulled the flag out of the car yep, the world.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, yeah, I guess somebody knows what that.

Speaker 8 (06:46):
Means story this week because he got it from a fan,
a race fan, and that's all there.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
He does. Listen, nobody might like him very much, but
he does some pretty cool things. He certainly has become
a voice of the sport, he says between himself and Harvick,
it's been pretty interesting to hear some of the things
they say, because, as we all know, anybody that does
anything regarding NASCAR has to temper their enthusiasm and they

(07:16):
also have to watch their language when they are covering
the sport. They can't trash NASCAR generally, but these guys
aren't afraid to kind of pull their pants down, which
is you know, refreshing. I think that they can actually
speak what's on their mind, and they've said something matter
of fact. One of them is even sue.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
A Nascar imagine that we live long enough to.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Be around for that one. For those of you who
are appalled by the racing at Martinsville, be aware that
the ratings are up everywhere we go. It seems like
it was up eleven. And if you think there's gonna

(08:03):
be a lot of a reaction, knee jerk reaction from
NASCAR to temper the way the guys race at certain tracks,
especially that Exfinity race last week, there are more and
more eyeballs on the sport and apparently fringe race fans,
fringe race viewers think that's pretty great to watch all

(08:25):
that shenanigans and running into each other and surprise winners
and all the things that NASCAR liked in the past.
But apparently it's coming out now and saying, oh, we
can't have guys driver like Sammy Smith. Oh Sammy, they have.

Speaker 8 (08:39):
A driver's only like mandatory drivers meeting before the race yesterday,
I mean, and some guys that I saw mine had
to get up like at four in the morning to
drive there from Charlotte just to make this mandatory reading.
So they kind of sat him down and set him
straight a little bit. I mean, you can have hard
racing and slam bang racing, but you just can't be
that obvious where you just reckoned people.

Speaker 9 (08:59):
It's a fine be.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Obvious, that's the thing, right, you can't be obvious finesse.

Speaker 10 (09:04):
There is something about finesse.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yes, you gotta be smooth about it. Sammy Smith was
fined twenty five points and twenty five thousand dollars doesn't
sound like much because you're you're thinking of Wow Jays
for a Cup Series, it's one hundred. Remember the difference
in the purse here. You know, NASCAR has got an
eleven million dollar perse and the Infinity Series a little
over one million, So I don't know, you know, you can't.

(09:29):
You can't charge them the same for the same type
of thing. And that's that's the way it works. And
did you not know that eleven million dollar perse for
NASCAR races these days? And yeah, the trucks aren't even
at one million, they're like at seven hundred thousand, So
it's kind of crazy. Hey, we're glad you're tuned in

(09:51):
lots has been happening in NASCAR world this week, and
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Speaker 4 (12:40):
What a character he is. He was the he was
the pr guy at slinger Speedway for I believe about
two weeks. Yeah, pretty great story which I could get
into later. But he told Wayne Erickson, No, that's that's
not how we do it, Wayne, that's the last time
he had anything to do with Sligger Speedway. Uh. Wayne

(13:01):
did things his own way. All right. There's things, lots
of things that are going on. Jesus, where do we start?
First of all, it looks like the old chess stain
is back. He went quite a while without pissing anybody off,
but that's changed in a hurry. We started with Legano
last week, just absolutely trashing Chastain, which and then good

(13:24):
old Ross goes well, I don't know, I don't even
know what that's about. You know that that kind of
innocent thing that he does. I like it. But when
you get Dan, what's the term you used?

Speaker 8 (13:37):
I was talked about yesterday's Expinity race with Christopher Bell's
I mean, that's what happened to He got.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Ross, he got lost. God, it's beautiful. I like it.
You got Ross. Yeah, Chase Elliott was you know, had
his issues. Christopher Bell really had his issues yesterday. He
came away with a fender rubbing on a tire after
he got Ross. That's a good term. We're gonna have
to use that, and if you don't, I think that's

(14:04):
why I like Ross Chesstain. He's just a little bit
out of control and kind of fun so, but he's
not making any friends lately, that's for sure. Dan. There's
some crazy things going on right now as far as
the sale of charters. Now, I bring this up because
you follow this a lot closer I think than the
rest of us combined. Jimmy Johnson and his Legacy Motorsports

(14:31):
company had a verbal agreement with Rickware Motorsports to purchase
one of their charters. They went so far as to
go through and initial all the pages on the contract,
which to me, TFB, you didn't sign anything, you initialed
the corner of the contract. So they had basically an

(14:54):
agreement in principle to purchase one of rick Ware's charters.
And now all hell has broken loose because Rickware said,
I never said I was gonna sell him not charter,
and now Johnson's gonna take them to court.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
Sounds like they filed some kind of an action against
it with that there was an agreement there. They claimed
that the rick Ware Racing had financial problems or money issues,
and that's now. Rickware runs a fifty one car. They
have two charters. They have one for the fifty one
and they have one that the sixty car that RFK
is leasing this year.

Speaker 9 (15:27):
The rule is you can lease a charter for a year.
You can't lease it for more than that.

Speaker 8 (15:31):
At the end of the year, you have to have
to buy that charter or somebody else has to lease it.
So I'm guessing that sixty car wants to be around
for a while, So you would think that maybe maybe
they were thinking, we're just gonna buy this charter at
the end of the year. I'm not sure how that
was gonna work, but that one's already out there. So
the only one they Rickware has is the fifty one.
Which one was he supposedly agreeing to sell to Legacy Motorsports.

Speaker 9 (15:52):
For the third car? Is it the fifty one?

Speaker 8 (15:53):
If it's that, well, then rick Ware is not gonna
have any charters because they also ran the fifteen car
last year charter went to the sixty. They ran the
fifteen car turned into the old one, and Corey the
Joy had it at Daytona and I think maybe a
charter about a charter so that car shows up once
in a while. So if rick Ware gets rid of
the fifty one, he's not gonna have any charters. If
it's the sixty, I'm sure you're gonna make people at

(16:15):
Ford and RFK kind of upset, like.

Speaker 9 (16:17):
Hey, I they thought we had a shot at this.

Speaker 8 (16:20):
Maybe there's other teams out there that say, hey, we
would run a third car next year if you're looking
for a charter, and maybe there's higher offers coming. I
don't know why they suddenly slowly backed out of this,
but it's kind of a mess. Rick Where claims that
they didn't agree to anything. You know, Legacy says we
had it in place. You need that stuff in place
now to get that in order for you know, next
year to have sponsors and all that kind of stuff

(16:41):
set up and a lot of sponsors, as we found
out in the twenty three eleven lawsuit, aren't going to
sign on the deal unless you have a charter.

Speaker 15 (16:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Dan, I don't know about you, guys, but it seems
to me there couldn't be an absolute worse time for
this because right now the whole charter system, as far
as I'm concerned, is in question because of the lawsuit.
And what are they actually going to be worth if,

(17:09):
for one reason or another, NASCAR just decides to do
away with the charter system. They're going to be worth
zero is what they're going to be worth, and they
could be worth upwards of thirty million dollars otherwise. Now
you say, well, why would they do away with the
charter system, Well, it has to do with out of
court settlements and what is actually agreed on in the

(17:30):
lawsuit that we got that to look forward to yet
this summer, which you know, we need to have a
lawyer on retainer, a guy who would be able to
tell us. You know, really what all this boils down to.
Dan is the closest thing we have to a lawyer,
so he's only been filling us in on all this stuff.
But I don't know, it seems like there could be
a better time to be a haggling over the price

(17:54):
of one of these one We don't even know if
they're going to continue. You had a pretty good point
about the whole charter system NASCAR. I don't think likes
where their charter system has gone. For one big reason
that you brought.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
Up, they're not getting their cut off of those sales. Yeah,
that's a big thing for them. They like to keep
their pockets lined with everything that happens and.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Getting sold for thirty million dollars and NASCAR not getting
a penny of it. They they just they didn't sell
those charters to get going, did they, Dan.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
That was just were created.

Speaker 8 (18:30):
They were created afforded to thirty six teams that were there,
and you know, the ones that weren't going to survive
got out and sold them for a pretty good profit.

Speaker 9 (18:38):
And there's very few left.

Speaker 8 (18:39):
I think Rick Whire's probably the last one left that's
been leasing charters. Left and right, and kind of playing
that shell game for years.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
By the way, they all say that they don't make money,
Hendrick says, I got four cars, all these employees, and
I'm not making any money. So where in the hell
does rit Waar come into this? If he has one
chart and finishes in the back every week, which is
what he does, how does he continue if he's so

(19:07):
cash strapped.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
That's not his only his only line of business. Him
and dale Coin Racing are together for IndyCar Racing, and
Rick Ware has a very successful nhr A team. I
believe they won the Top Field championship last year. Yeah,
and I think he's got some involvement with IMSA as well.
So he's got his fingers in all the different forms
of motorsports across the country. And I think, I mean

(19:30):
to be honest, NASCARS is least successful of them all.
So somehow he must still think this is you gotta.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
Have something for as Todd said, for writeoff, so you
have to have a place to show with some losses
so you don't pay too many taxes.

Speaker 8 (19:43):
Maybe they could do all right, just finished in the
back when those guys's to starting park. Some of those
guys made a pretty good amount of money just parking
a car every week.

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Remember, yeah, I'll never forget that conversation I had with
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(20:12):
him at a race one time and I went up
and I went, you know, because you know Jason was
a competitive guy. Why are you happy to finish in
the back and do this every week? And the magic
words he said to me, I made four hundred thousand
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Speaker 17 (24:18):
I've been feeling a little bit better. So I want
to get your comments on a couple of things. First
of all, I really enjoyed that Tony Stewart weekly presentations.
I thought it was entertaining. It was something we could
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(24:39):
was good. I also enjoyed the CW eighteen Infriinity races,
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(25:00):
whether it's Infinity or a NASCAR are really the fans
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(25:21):
final question is do you have any word on Kirk
Bush how he's been doing so, I'll hang up and
I appreciate the show every week.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Thank you great. Thanks for calling attendance interesting. It's it's
for one reason or another. TV numbers are up across
the board, but uh yeah, it's kind of hard to
hide those empty stands. What is It's always great to
be in the stands for a race because you just

(25:53):
don't have to watch the couple of cars they're showing
you on television. You can keep an eye on, first
of all, who you want to keep an eye on
your favorite driver if he's not running in the front
two or three, and plus if you're if you're listening.
It's just a wonderful experience to sit in the stands
and watch a race. But what happened? Do we know?

Speaker 5 (26:14):
I was surprised to see as many empty seats as
there wasn't Martinsville last week, that's for sure, and that
place doesn't hold many. But we've heard that for a
couple of years now from NASCAR that you know, their
their biggest thing is the TV attendants And with the
numbers up or the TV viewership, not attendants, but the
viewership on TV and the fact that that number is up,
that's what they're happy with I you know, I think
the the attendant at a track is is kind of

(26:35):
a secondary thing, and they sat a couple of years
ago that you know, we're gonna take a look at
tracks that have you know, larger numbers and those are
the ones we're gonna stick with. Well, we know that
was a lie because right in our own backyard we
had one of the biggest attended races in twenty twenty
one and they didn't come back, you know, two years later.
So so I don't I don't know exactly what what
they're looking at for their for their numbers on that

(26:56):
and how they gauge what's what's a win and what's
not far is what tracks?

Speaker 6 (27:00):
I mean, Martinsville isn't gonna go anywhere.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
We know that the track's always going to be there,
so it doesn't matter how full it gets.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
We go to Bristol next week, Yeah, places like one
hundred and twenty thousand seats, how many are going to
be in it?

Speaker 6 (27:10):
You know?

Speaker 9 (27:11):
Yeah, where they're coming from too.

Speaker 8 (27:13):
I think a big thing that kind of prevents people
from going to races, as you know, I've been to
a couple of races and we go as fans, right,
Bryan and stuff, you know it goes. Hotel prices are
kind of way out of whack right now, and the
same airline prices as well. I mean, the ticket to
the race isn't bad. Every ticket I've had to races
so far have been pretty reasonable. It's the cost of
having to, you know, get the airfare to go out there,

(27:34):
and then the hotel even they want to charge you
three hundred bucks a night or something like that's for
a race, And it's kind of crazy until that comes down,
and I'm not sure people are going to make the
trip to do that.

Speaker 9 (27:41):
And that could be a big.

Speaker 8 (27:42):
Reason why some man these stands are completely full because
you're probably only drawing people in the area. They don't
have to, you know, pay for a hotel and air right.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
I mean, we know like this year for the Chicago
Street Race, they're putting in half the grandstands that they
had the last two years just because they didn't fill
them up. You know that that huge grand stand you
saw where we were dan on Michigan Avenue, that's going
to be half the side for this coming year because
they didn't fill it up. So is that making a
difference for them.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
They changed their prices for that particular race. They're going
to allow more of a general mission ticket. That's going
to be much more reasonable this year to try to
get more people in there. But you're not gonna have
a place to sit well that work.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
It's probably last time we're going to have that race.
But I mean they do mix around things. Kids are
free for Infinity races and truck races. You know, they're
doing some things to do it. But like Dan said,
I think that's the biggest thing. The being at the
race is one thing. Everything else. To get to the
track and be there is the tough one, and NASCAR
has no control over that.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
There you go. The other question that he had had
to do with Kurt Busch. I had a check back
in my notes. He raced in Sydney, Australia for the
first time, and I don't know, it must have been
a long time. I think it was his first ever
competitive event since he had his egg scrambled March seventh

(28:54):
and eighth. Did did any of you hear how he did?
There wasn't much about it that I saw.

Speaker 18 (29:00):
No.

Speaker 9 (29:00):
I just thought he was out there racing.

Speaker 8 (29:02):
It was in a something champions or something called it
wasn't it called like a race of Champions or something
like that.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, yeah, that was it.

Speaker 8 (29:08):
I think he works for twenty three eleven still. I
think he still has a role there in some aspect.
Not sure exactly what it is, and maybe a consultant
or something like that, but I think he does do
some work with a twenty three eleven team. So you
may not be at the track every week, but he's
still involved that way.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
I think he was there yesterday because Sam Meyertt was
running one of his his throwback paint schemes too, the
Daytona five hundred and that he won in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 6 (29:29):
Wasn't or eighteen seventeen seventeen.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
Yeah, so not much of a throwback, but I believe
I saw him on camera yesterday.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
He was there before that race.

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We're very happy you're tuned in to LTN. We're going
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But time is running out. NASCAR has been busy. The
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(33:12):
commissioner to red phone on his desk. So Steve O'Donnell,
who we saw many many times. You never really knew
what his title was, Chief Operating Officer or something like that.
He is now the president of NASCAR and they're hiring
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(33:33):
the manager of YouTube strategy and planning. That's going to
be a position in NASCAR YouTube strength. Hey, we're doing
all right on our YouTube here. Maybe you could call
us up and we'll give you some advice. Have a
good guy, like you know, Matt Loci to take care
of things for you. Speaking of Steve Phelps, the new commissioner,

(33:59):
he was talking a little bit about Fontana. I didn't
see what the context was. Somebody asked him about it,
that's what it was, Okay, Yeah. He finally came out
and said, what all the rumors have been for, I
don't know, a couple of years since they started selling
parcels of land out so they don't have very much.

(34:21):
He said, they're going to hit the pause button on
Fontana because the investment was going to be three hundred
million dollars to build this half mile track that they
had envisioned. Now, as you know, NASCAR loves California, and

(34:41):
they've always believed that they need to race their Southern
California Los Angeles type market see you know, Riverside, see Ontario.
They've been at these places before, and then it's always
a NASCAR's attempt to stay relevant in Southern California. They

(35:02):
want to, they need to. We've kicked around different possibilities,
but this is pretty serious right now. They're gonna have
to come up with a plan if they unless they
just abandon their own philosophy and say, you know, we
don't need to, right. You know, I think we've outgrown
southern California. I don't think that's the case at all.

Speaker 8 (35:21):
No, I think you need that because when advertisers come,
if you're looking to sell sponsorship and stuff, the first
thing people ask you what markets are you in? In
New York, LAA, Chicago. Those are the top three and
if you're not in those, a lot of want to
deal with you.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
I mean, there's not much left of that site.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
I mean there was a five hundred and twenty two
acre site and they sold four hundred and thirty three
acres of that site and it's already being developed. There's
a large warehouse literally sitting in turns one and two
of that, I would say two thirds of the grand
stands are left, and the Pitt suites are left along.

Speaker 6 (35:54):
With Pitt Road. The rest of the site has been
leveled off.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
So even if they were to build something there, I mean,
how feasible is it to have a working facility there
when you have all this other infrastructure around.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
It, well, the warehouses and whatnot. Let's just say they're
going to not be working on weekends, and maybe the
parking area will be able to be leased back to NASCAR,
because obviously they're going to need parking.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Those are usually twenty four to seven operations. I mean, Dan,
remember the last year when we were at Chicago. The
truck traffic to get in and out of there the
day of the race because you have you know, you know,
the Amazon warehouses and the other furniture warehouses. I mean,
you're trying to get into a race and there's semi
after semi after semi as well.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Wow, it's crazy. Well, their strategic planning department is a
kind of lax right here. They need to come up
with something better. I don't know that that you know,
he's just given us double talk and it's just not
going to get developed. It may not get developed. They
did keep some of it, but they're gonna with their

(37:02):
own philosophy. They need to stay there. So what are
they gonna do? Buy something somewhere else, some land and
then develop it.

Speaker 10 (37:11):
In California.

Speaker 8 (37:13):
They made a play for Long Beach, remember, and they
kind of got shut up. But I mean before they
got it through, they were trying to get Long Beach
from IndyCar and an IndyCar kind of stepped in as
a nope, you're not taking this, and they you know,
they the owners kept in an IndyCar race. I mean,
unless you can convince them to run another race a
year through the streets there. I don't know where else
you're gonna go. I mean, because Irwindale's gone right and upright.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
The Bakersfield is a beautiful facility.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
I don't know the exact distance from LA to Bakersfield.
With Kevin Harvick owning that, the problem with NASCAR is
they want to be able to be the people that
own the facility. If you go to Kevin Harvick's place,
well Kevin Harvick owns it. Is that what they want.
Are they going to go to some place that somebody
else owns, that.

Speaker 10 (37:52):
Is Kevin Harvick.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
Yeah, that facility is designed for that. I mean it is.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
There's a small sort of grand stands there you could
put you could put an if grandstands there to buy
forty thousand people around that place if you want, you know.
And it's a beautiful facility. But is it close enough
to southern to La.

Speaker 7 (38:08):
It's about forty five minutes or an hour out. Maybe
it's not terrible. It's probably more like an hour. I
can't remember how long it took us to drive there.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Yeah, well there's that too, because Fontana is located right
right off of Interstate ten and it's a very accessible area.
So there is a lot of good that, you know,
as far as location goes. Just did they really need
the money that bad? Does that seem to be something

(38:41):
that is a good idea to sell off the property
that you plan or you're trying to make people believe
that you're planning on building a racetrack. It just doesn't
add up.

Speaker 7 (38:51):
Not when they're doing silly things to just drop money
left and right, like putting dirt down on a facility
that is not dirt and building things like they did
out in la.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
How much did that that didn't? Relatively that was only
like a million dollars only Yes, well I say only
because comparing it to this three hundred million dollar project
to raise permanently in Fontana. But you can get something
back out of your investment.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Those four hundred and thirty three acres that they sold,
they got five hundred and forty four million dollars for that.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yeah, that was there run at.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
The coliseum and to Chicago and all that stuff, So
that money's probably gone.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
That's probably what happened.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
I mean, I think their original intention was to use
that money to rebuild that place. But then when everything
rolls after they they sold that and they had to
use that money to do these other events, that that
that fund is probably gone.

Speaker 7 (39:49):
And maybe they're going to wait and see how everything
lands as the market is in turmoil right now.

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Yes, okay, Brian's in fact, we have some results for
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Speaker 5 (42:17):
Well, for those of you that were paying attention to
the weather this week, you see the weather raised holy
havoc with the entire country and that also raised havoc with.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
The dirt racing schedule. This week.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
The High Limits Series all of their events postponed. They
were supposed to race in Vado, New Mexico on Tuesday,
they had fifty mile an hour wins.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Fifty mile hour wins with a wing. Sprint card doesn't
work so well, so that was canceled.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Both World of out Law Late Models and sprint car
events were canceled this week. And the IRA was supposed
to open up in Iowa and that was postponed as
well because of the miserable weather this week. But they
did race in Marshalltown, Iowa on Friday night, the twenty
twenty five IMC Frostbusters and the modified it was Troy Morris.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
The third winning the stock cars was Justin Lewinberg.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
They ran down in Talladay, Alabama, the Talladega Short Track
for the hunt Front Super Dirt Late Model Series.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
He's eight thousand dollars to win.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
The ageless wonder Dale McDowell grabbed Friday Night's feature win
with a last lap pass to.

Speaker 6 (43:07):
Win Iowa's What's that?

Speaker 9 (43:08):
Did you watch that race?

Speaker 6 (43:10):
I saw a highlight of it.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
He set that guy up after guy who was leading
that race, but he set him up in lab traffic
pretty good and to get that win in the last lap.
You could see him set that up like two hops
of Ford, the old veteran kind of put the move
on him.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
Yes, he's with Scott Bloomquist. Gone Dale is now the
wily veteran in a third late model racing, that's for sure.
Last night Boone, Iowa Frostbusters continued. In the IMCA Modified's
Dylan Thornton was your winner, and the stock cars was
Kelly shryock Out In Paris, California, the USACK Sierra Sprint
Car Series was there. David Gasper grabbed his first ever
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(43:42):
the Lincoln Speedway for the four ten Sprints Card four
ten Sprint Cars. Anthony Macree picked up the win there,
and finally in Talladay, g Alabama, the second night of
the Hunt the Front Series twelve thousand dollars to win.

Speaker 6 (43:52):
Sam Seawright was your feature winner there.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
One other news note from the world of dirt track
racing was announced this week. Jacob Allen, the driver of
the one A for Shark Racing. In the world of
out lost sprint cars. I believe he ran with high
limit last year. He all of a sudden said I'm done.
He's retired permanently from racing sprint cars. So the Shark
Racing Group is going to be looking for They plan
on continuing to field that one a car across the country.

(44:15):
Too late to probably join a series and run for points,
but they plan to put a replacement driver in there,
so see who gets that seat. That's going to be
a pretty good seat to be teammates with Logan Schueheart
on the sprint Car World, so it'll be interesting to see.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
That is everything for this week.

Speaker 7 (44:30):
On to the asphalt side of things. ARCA West was
running at Tucson last night. The winner was Tanner Reeve.
The Smart Modified Tour at Orange County in North Carolina
also ran and Ryan Newman was the winner there. The
ASA Stars was that Dominion Speedway. Cole Butcher was the
winner twelve of twenty one cars completed all two hundred

(44:52):
and fifty laps. Derek Thorn and Jake Garcia arounded out.
The top three notables were Caden Quoppole p six, Stephen
Nas seven, ty Frederickson eighth, Austin Nason ninth, Bubba Pollard fourteenth,
Derrek Krause eighteenth, and Johnny Sowder nineteenth. And then we're
what six days away from the Dells firing things up

(45:14):
and the twenty days away from Jefferson getting started on
April twenty sixth, and Slinger just a mirror.

Speaker 10 (45:21):
Twenty one days away from the opener.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
There amazing one thing they add on that ARCA race.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
I know we like to rip on kids and how
poorly a lot of these kids race across the country.
I watched the end of that race last night, and
that race is nothing but kids. That was probably the
cleanest racing I have seen in the ARCA Series and
forever probably. I mean, they ran three wide, they didn't touch,
there were no ramming into the back of each other.

(45:46):
I mean this Tanner Reef, Eric Johnson, and this Jake
Bowman never really heard of all any of them, and
Kyle Keller, Trevor Huldeston was another one. I mean, there
were seven different guys that led that race. No slobber
knocking or nothing, but just an outstanding race for thirteen cars.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
Didn't think it was gonna be much of a race.
That was really really good.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
So just got to say, as much as we rip
on these kids for racing like knuckleheads all the time,
they did not yesterday, and that should be an example
of how racing should be.

Speaker 10 (46:12):
You're saying there's hope for the future.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
There's hope those that group of kids can. I mean,
that should be a model for how you should be
racing on the short tracks.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
What we saw last night.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
There, somebody got a hold of them. Somebody laid down
the law there, don't you think.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
I mean, it's none of the big teams too. You
don't have any of the ventor any teams. You don't
have any of the Gibbs teams.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
Let's give it a little even smaller teams.

Speaker 10 (46:32):
They fixed their own cars. Todd that that.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
Could be and Bill mcinally he's probably the biggest team
there and he probably said, you know, don't wreck my stuff.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
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Speaker 3 (46:46):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
There's thirty seven super late models entered, thirty three Midwest
truck competitors and twenty eight six old twos. I didn't
even know they had that many six old twos. They
must be building more of them.

Speaker 10 (46:58):
It's a popular series, it is.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
It's that six oh two engine that the trucks and
the six oh two is run. It's not expensive and
you know, makes racing affordable again. So interesting stuff. By
the way, Cole Butcher, what with the fact that Ty
doesn't race in short track events very consistently. I think
he's kind of emerged as the number one guy in

(47:22):
the country for these events.

Speaker 10 (47:25):
I think you got well.

Speaker 7 (47:26):
I think you got to give Bubba a little bit
of a grace period here right now, because he just
sold all of his stuff and now Bubba Pollard is
teamed up with Van Dorn Racing, so he's going to
be running that car the rest of the ASA Stars Tour,
and I think Butch van Dorn and Bubba Pollard just
kind of need to get there poop in a group,
and I don't think you're going to see I think

(47:47):
you're going to see more of a challenge there. Plus,
I think Derek Thorn kind of getting into his groove
with his new team as well. He finished second last night.
I mean, I wouldn't write everybody off yet and put
the crown on Cole Butcher's head just yet. I'm not
saying he isn't talented. I'm just saying there's a lot
of teams.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
That are sed to not be the guy like I think.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
I think that there's gonna be some more challenges as
the season winds in.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Yeah, you're probably listen. I like Bubba a lot, and
I'd like to see him kind of retake his well.
He never really did have the crown. I think back
when he was running and winning as many races as
he could, he was second to Tie. It's just that
Tie's got other things to do these days and we
don't see him as often.

Speaker 10 (48:31):
But I think a.

Speaker 7 (48:32):
Part of that too, is that Bubba was going all
over the country and Tie has yet to go out
to the East coast.

Speaker 10 (48:39):
For the shoot.

Speaker 7 (48:40):
I can't think of the name of the thing, Oxford,
Oxford fifty and Tobe and he were talking about trying
to do that for a while, but whoever was in
charge of the rules package out there through a wrench
into everything, and they would have had to have built
a whole new car to be able to be copasetic
with the rules.

Speaker 10 (48:56):
But they're not ruling that out. They're still looking at
it interesting.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
That's good long.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
Break on that Star's National tour now too. They don't
race again until May twenty second, hayy, So see what
these see if these guys race other places in between
time and then you're gonna you're gonna see if Cole
Butcher just sits in the weeds for the next month
and a half or if he goes out and races.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Hey, I thought Spier Motorsports was so much money. They
just just had so much that they could keep adding
and bring hiring in all these these important people and
doing all. I had no idea that they didn't even
employ their own pit crew. They leased them from from

(49:35):
the seven car. They leased them. I suppose they lease
them across the board, but they all come from Hendrick.
Of all things. Well, Hendrick switched the cruise this week.
Larson's crew is I don't know if they're in limbo
right now. Then they brought in the pit crew from
the number seven car, and that's gonna be the new crew,

(49:57):
I believe.

Speaker 10 (49:57):
It or not.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
For Kyle Lar they must be really, really good, although
I don't know why that seven car wasn't running up
front more often with how great they were. But Dan,
one thing I didn't realize when I told you about
this before is that they had some members that were
given a four week break and they needed a crew so.

Speaker 8 (50:19):
Well that they use guys from the seven car to
cover that suspension. But now that's over, so they may
have done a good enough job to just warrant the
pull swift.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Come on back, we need you over here. Pretty cool,
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 4 (53:46):
And welcome back to the program. Lot a lot of
news this week with the tariffs that started up on
the second, and it came up what happens with NASCAR
because they have parts that come in from over seas.
I know that the wheels, these fancy wheels, BBS makes them.

(54:09):
They're based in Germany. Now I don't know. I believe
they're made over there and shipped back to this country,
which means they would be subject to a new tariff. Also,
Sparkle uniforms, they're all made in Italy to specifications and
then shipped back to the US. Plus breaks digital dashboards

(54:32):
ECU they're all made over seas. I'm not sure where
those are coming from, but it's going to affect costs,
which makes you think. It makes you wonder about these
single source providers. Maybe they should make them in the
US and then we wouldn't have to worry about this
sort of thing, which is I think what the whole
point was in the first place. So we'll have to

(54:54):
keep a close eye on that. I don't really know
much about Lamar Jackson, the quarterback of the Ravens. Yeah,
I guess he's a good quarterback. I find out, and
I didn't even realize he's number eight. And he's gonna
sue Junior because because Junior wanted to get a patent

(55:15):
on the number eight, that is the stylized eight that
he used when he first came into Nascar. That that style,
it's the exact same style as the number three was,
except it was just filled in.

Speaker 6 (55:29):
Ye.

Speaker 8 (55:30):
It was lawsuit as an opposition to the trademark application,
and they got the stylized eight that tail Jimmy used
that that was no opposition. He also put in the
eight they have on their x Finity cars was a
little different and that's the one that got opposed to,
which apparently they're going to change and put it back
to the stylized eight. I just want to know, can
I Can I get a Raven's eight jersey custom made
with Dale Junior's name on the back.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
You'd have to wear You'd have to wear a Ravens jersey,
and you know you're too busy wearing your forty nine
ers jerseys, so you can't do. I don't think Junior
is a fan of the Ravens either, right, No, No,
he's a Redskins guys fan, yes.

Speaker 9 (56:06):
Or its Manders that are called now yeh oh?

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Really I like that when they were the football club
or whatever the hell they called him. A couple other
little notes, our buddy Ed Kluka had he was friends
with J Fry. I don't know if the name rings
a bell. He came in. I think he made friends
with Jay when he ran the number thirty six car.

(56:30):
Kenny Schrader drove that car had M and m's for
a while. If you'll remember, do we really know who
the owner of that team was? Dan? I'm not sure.

Speaker 9 (56:40):
Yeah, I have to go back and remember that that
was an MB Motorsports?

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Was that up too? MB Motorsports Bingo? I should have known, Yeah,
you're good at that. Well, Mike Kluka worked for that team,
and I believe that's how Ed met J Fry. J
Fry was then after he left there, he was the
pro resident of Indy Car Racing. Nice gig if you

(57:03):
can get it, I guess. And now he's got a
new job. He is now the president of Ray Hall.
Litterman racing just one team in Indy Cars. But I
see his name come up, I think of Ed. I
went and I introduced myself to Jay Fry at a
press conference they had out here in Phoenix.

Speaker 10 (57:21):
Oh yeah, you know it.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
It was pretty cool. And now he's he's got some
pretty impressive things in his rhythm. That's cool stuff. I
did not know the name Cheddar Smith. Dan you knew
him because first of all, he's from Wisconsin and I
apparently that's where he comes up with the nickname Cheddar.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Right.

Speaker 8 (57:41):
Yeah, he was with the four car with Kevin Harrick
Joet for a long time under Ron Doddie Childings.

Speaker 9 (57:46):
He's a car chief there, and then.

Speaker 8 (57:49):
He moved over to the seven Spier car where Childress
was now and now it looks like he's going to
be the car chief of the fifty four car and
Ty Gibbs they made a change there.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Yeah, so this is going to solve Tig Gibbs. He'll
be the missing link and Ty Gibbs will suddenly get
really good and his things will turn around a little bit.
You know, get put a put a cheesehead in there.
That'll that'll help things out for you, no doubt, for
those of you who have been following the career of
a Zillish kid. First of all, I think he's extremely

(58:21):
impressive myself, and I think he's going to be the
hottest property in NASCAR. He's going to race the next
time at Charlotte for the six hundred, so we will
see him again in the Cup Series this year. And
pretty impressive guy, that's for sure. Hey, here's that music.
We all blues.

Speaker 9 (58:42):
What's your pick?

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Real quick? Oh, I'll take the eighth car. Kyle Busch, Dan.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
Reddick, okay, Brian nineteen, Chase Briscoe, okay, PJ.

Speaker 10 (58:53):
Ryan Blaney.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
You just like Ryan Blaney? What can I say?

Speaker 10 (58:58):
He's good?

Speaker 4 (58:59):
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