LTN RADIO NETWORK - February 16,2025

LTN RADIO NETWORK - February 16,2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
From various locations via the miracle of Skype. It's the
ltn R. Let's Talk Nascar with your host Todd Bayling,
co hosts Brian Schmidt, PJ Newdleman, and producer Dangerous Dan Margetta.
Call the show anytime at four one, four forty one seventy.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Nine oh one.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
And now the creator and host of the Fastest Holler
and Radio, Todd Veiling.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yes, we're ready for the first race of the year
at DAYTONA big fun for everybody. It will be televised
today on Fox Channel six, Milwaukee Channel forty seven and
Madison Readings from sunny beautiful Phoenix, Arizona. My partners are

(01:00):
spread out all over the place. First, fortunately, we have
a couple of folks in Wisconsin that are there for
the sole purpose of shoveling and plowing snow, starting with
our own snow plowed driver, Brian Schmidt over in Utzburg, Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
I Brian, Oh, yeah, this is this is This is
miserable sitting at home here when usually I'm in Daytona
with Dan.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
But the schedule didn't work out. So just as an.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Extra reward, I got forty one hours of overtime plowing
snow this week, so it really stuck it to me.
But justa eat at home today and I'm going to
watch the race and no pushing of snow today, all.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Right, PJ. On the other side of the state, on
the Mississippi River, and you had to deal with a
semi unhappy husband getting home from Florida this week.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Yeah, he was not happy whenever you got to bring
home a wrect race car, especially when you get wrecked
while eating. But there is that anyway. Yeah, twelve degrees
over here in Trempla, Wisconsin. Pretty windy, but we got sunshine.
But it's nothing compared to it the dangerous Dan Margetta
is enjoyed down in Daytona.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, and that's where he is. Welcome.

Speaker 7 (02:12):
Dan having fun, Oh, having a lot of fun. I
got out of that snow on Wednesday. I've been down
here hang on the beach going to races, and I'm
at the track now for the five hundred. It can't
get any better than that. It's warm, it's sunny for now.
It's pretty windy, though. We have my forty mile hour
wind gust later on and they're saying some rain may
come in here at about three or four o'clock and
maybe we delay this race in the middle of it

(02:34):
for some party, but it's nothing that's going to wash
it all day. Like last year, we should get the
whole thing in.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well, that's that's good news. They did just the start
time for the race according to the forecast, which it
was supposed to start at two o'clock Central time, It
is now starting at one o'clock Central time, so we'll
have to keep an eye on that. But there is
a forty five percent chance of precipitation. Now all aside,

(03:01):
this is pretty exciting because all the years I went
to Daytona, for many of those years, I had myself
a roommate, and funny, how as time goes on, the
location of the room is what really changes. Sometimes. My
roommate for many of those events down there was Dave

(03:22):
Caleman of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, and coincidentally, Dave is
my roommate for this weekend's Daytona race, except of course
we're in Phoenix, not Daytona. Dave joins me here in studio.
That means he's stayed here last night. Hi Dave, good morning,
Good morning.

Speaker 8 (03:43):
There's almost no one I'd rather spend Valentine's Day with
almost no one. Yeah, no, but it's great. It's been
a long time since I've been out here. It's been
a long time. I think we've seen more of each
other already this year than we did all of last year,
despite the fact that we live pretty close to each other.
And it's been a long time since I've been joined DELTN.

(04:04):
So I'm glad to be here.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Now.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
This is actually newsworthy, folks, because last night in Daytona,
Dave was awarded although he wasn't there what do we
call it absentia, He was awarded the American Motorsports Media
Award of Excellence. Not very many folks get that award.
You didn't get a chance to stand up and give

(04:28):
your thank you speech, so I thought we'd provide you
a platform. No, I can't remember my speech because I
wrote it at seven am on my phone yesterday and
passed it along to the others in the group, and
I believe it was My speech was read by the
illustrious doctor Dick Bergrian, so that was very nice. And yeah,

(04:54):
I've had a lot of a lot of longtime colleagues,
peers who have reached out and with congratulations, and it's
I guess you're wondering what the heck it is. It's
a it's kind of a lifetime achievement award. There's certainly
some some great names on it, you know, the David
Pools of this world, Mike Hares from AP long time,

(05:15):
maybe of my sort of people in my same demographic,
you know, Bob Pokers. Any anytime you're on a list
with people like that, you got to feel pretty good
about yourself. So very neat, glad to hear about it now.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Congratulations, Dave, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
It's it's very cool, although you're not really here in
a motor sports capacity. For those folks who are lucky
enough to subscribe to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Yeah, it's
kind of funny to be getting hearing from people in
Daytona Beach where you're accepting speech is being read for
an award and motorsports while you're tweeting Christian Yelich video

(05:56):
from spring training.

Speaker 8 (05:58):
So kind of a strange, strange day yesterday. But I'm
out out here for a couple of days to take
in spring training. It's something I'd never done and didn't
really time it to avoid the Daytona five hundred or
to spend the Daytona five hundred weekend with Todd. But
it's something completely different. And so yeah, I'm at that

(06:20):
point in life where I can get lifetime achievement awards
while I'm still alive and also try some different things.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
So that's pretty cool. Spring training is nice out here.
For one, it's just different than Florida because, for one,
the sun is shining here, and I guess Dan is
let us know that we may or may not get
this race in its entirety. Starting at an hour early, Dan,
are they going to get one hundred and one lapse in?

(06:47):
And that's what the whole goal was?

Speaker 7 (06:50):
They might I mean it's the hour early start. You know,
I'll have about an hour a dreen flag racing before
the brain is supposed to get here. And it's not
a definite thing. I mean, I couldness us. It's Florida
kind of hit and miss. I think if it does
come through here, it's not gonna wash the whole day out.
It might have to you know what, the track down.
He'll dry it and finish it later. I just it
just may inter. I'm not sure it's gonna wipe it out.

(07:11):
It's a lot better forecast this year I had last year,
that's for sure. I think they get the whole race
in started early. Just make sure you can at least
get it some of any because I remember the last time
they started this late in twenty twenty, they messed around
for about hour.

Speaker 9 (07:24):
Be forty started the race and he started the rank,
came to everybody. He was kind of mad.

Speaker 7 (07:27):
So obviously they're making an effort to get some racing
in before it does get here.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
That's all good stuff. At least they are being cognizant
of a year's past, and that's that's a wonderful thing.
They did run some races this week. On Thursday, we
had our twin qualifiers. Bubba Wallace won one of them,
and you're gonna have a hard time telling me that
Eric Jones didn't win the other one, even though Austin

(07:55):
Sindric was awarded. The thing that guy on the yellow
flag had hair trigger? My god, was it really important
for him to hit that trigger that quickly? Eric Jones
should have been the winner of that race and was not.
But uh, you know, it's kind of a quick decision.

(08:16):
What what you know, what blew me away. More than
than the silly hair trigger was the fact that Kevin Harviick,
who is usually good for calling things as they are, said, oh,
that was a really good thing to happen, because you
don't want to have guys running into each other coming
to the to the checker.

Speaker 9 (08:38):
Like, are you kidding me? That?

Speaker 7 (08:40):
It wasn't wasn't that that guy isn't ken Ken benefited
from the yellow flag?

Speaker 9 (08:48):
In two thousand and seven, did he?

Speaker 7 (08:49):
Winnsday told it Mark Martin was leading when the yellow
flags that have been thrown, But wasn't they let him
go to the line?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (08:57):
And he mentioned that he said, oh, I used to
race back to the line kind of stuff, but we
can't have that. It's a that's a that's a different
comparison here, because you're about two hundred feet from the flag.
What are you What are you gaining by throwing that
caution other than mass confusion? You know, the guys that
behind can see the smoke they should be lifting. You're
not gonna go wide open through that, and the guys
in front the crashes behind him. You know, it's one

(09:19):
thing if you have a wreck in turn four or
a wreck and turn one. You got to throw the
caution so that the guys don't drive into it when
it's over. Sure, we've said for years now that they
don't need to be pulling the trigger that quick when
the wreck is out of the out of the way
and not a part of the actual action at the end.
And that's what happened there. Can you imagine if that
was a Daytona five hundred. Can you imagine if that
was Eric Jones crossing the line first for the Daytona

(09:40):
five hundred, getting out of the car to the cheer
of the crowd, thinking he won the biggest race there is,
and then oh, yeah, no, that's not what happened.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
You can't have that.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
They're gonna have to work on that and tell that
hair trigger dude, you gotta take it easy. We're very
glad that you tuned in for our Daytona five hundred
special today, Dave Paul, I'm gonna be with us for
the entirety of the program. Dani the somewhere in the No,
he's not in the infield, he's on the other side

(10:10):
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Welcome back to the Daytona edition of LTN. With apologies there.
They're having problems on the nine to twenty right now
and we are not on the air, So if you're
listening to this on our YouTube channel or on Facebook
or on our web page, thank you so much for
tuning in. It's a really special day for Daytona as

(12:48):
we get the season kicked off. I know how this works,
but I can tell you that the big news this
week had nothing at all to do with the Daytona
five hundred NASCAR I think I said this from the
get go. It's their game. How can you possibly take
them to court when they're the one that make the rules.

(13:09):
Just because you don't like the rules, that doesn't mean
it's worthwhile to take them to court. So NASCAR said, hey,
by the way, if you guys win this lawsuit, we're
going to take the charter system away. And oh, by
the way, thank you for spending millions upon millions upon
millions for those charters. But they're going to be totally

(13:29):
worthless now. I suppose we're going to get to the
point where they're actually going to post the purse on
a weekly basis. Again, wouldn't that be something? By the way,
they did post the purse for the Cup race today,
thirty point three million dollars. Nice purse compared to years
past and back to win. It paid two hundred thousand

(13:50):
to win. You know, what a a what a wonderful thing.
What's our thought on this? Guys? You know, Marget Dan,
you're the one that's been kind of watching this whole thing.
You're not gonna beat NASCAR, no matter how many lawyers
you get, am I right?

Speaker 9 (14:09):
I mean that's what it seems.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
I mean, that was the big news that came out
when they said, oh okay, it was implied that if
they didn't win this lawsuit that they would just do
with the charters. I think that's going to open up
every other team's gonna say, hey, we signed this deal,
how can HeSE renigga on? And that's a whole bunch
of more loss its Saturday get even crazier.

Speaker 9 (14:26):
But yeah, I mean, this whole thing isn't good. For
the whole deal.

Speaker 7 (14:29):
It needs they somehow need to get on the same
page overall and get everything together.

Speaker 9 (14:33):
I don't know how you do that at this stage.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
Now that came out this week because NASCAR filed it's
it's appeal to the latest injunction that says the twenty
three eleven and the front roll cars have to be
traded as chartered cars, even though technically they don't have charters.
This years they didn't sign any agreement. NASCAR filed an
appeal to that and said, why should we be forced to,
you know, consider them as business partners when they're not
doing everything to better the brand and ask car. They're

(14:57):
kind of going against us. There are are adversaries, and
it lost. So that's kind of where it's at now.
They're going to feel that back and probably go back
and forth. But yeah, I mean, overall, it is their game,
and I mean what if they took their ball and
went home.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
And that's exactly what they're talking about. This could all
go away as soon as the two teams come out
and say we've decided to drop the lawsuit and get
on board. And oh, by the way, we had to
at least we had the guts to go and stand
up to NASCAR, even though it didn't get us a
damn thing, because that's really where this is hitted. It

(15:34):
seems like to me, so.

Speaker 7 (15:37):
Anythin about it too There also was a little bit
of reports that said they're actually entertaining the possibility of
selling part of NASCAR. You know, the France family's owned
it forever, and now there's some talk that they're not
opposed to totally maybe selling a percentage to somebody, kind
of like Liberty Media came in and bought f one.
You know, if that's on the table too, they can
always go down route and saying all right, we're done
with this, somebody else come in and buy it.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Dave Common was a talking to me about this earlier today. Dave,
Now we have these equity firms that are buying into NASCAR.
That has to make it very very confusing.

Speaker 8 (16:08):
Yeah, I think that would make the whole charter lawsuit
stuff look like child's play. Honestly, I can't remember the
last time of private equity. Private equity investment helped the sport,
the passionate folks, the you know, the end user so
to speak. The only purpose is to make money.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
That's it. There's there's no other function at that point.

Speaker 8 (16:34):
And so how does that help anyone other than the
people who are cashing in.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
But they make money by entertaining folks and having them
tune in.

Speaker 8 (16:44):
Yeah, right up until it makes you know, the business
sense or the business the numbers change and it doesn't
make sense anymore. Then you just, you know, you sell
it for scrap.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
You know, a man, you're not painting a very nice
picture of our sport here recently. And no, it's not
the sport.

Speaker 8 (17:03):
I don't think that I'm trying that I'm painting the
poor picture of it's it's private, private equity investment. That
frightens the heck out of me. You got to remember
what business I'm into. This sort of stuff has happened
ash as newspapers have been gutted and whatnot. And you know,

(17:23):
to a degree, understand business is business. But my god,
if you're passionate about the sport, or if you're passionate
about you know, someone like me, we're passionate about our business,
are about our you know, industry, then yeah, that tends
to not be real good for us.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
We're in a We're in a sticky place right now. Folks.
You're gonna have to keep an eye on the scorecard
to see what the lawyers, the judges and all. You know,
this isn't what we want. We want to see who's
going fast and who's passing cars and winning races. This
is this is not fair to the fan that we're
looking at this and uh and yet you know what

(18:04):
we want to do is make sure it's the sustainability
part that we're worried about. Is this going to be
able to take this sport into the future. And good god,
I certainly hope somebody knows what they're doing here and
doesn't mess the whole thing up.

Speaker 8 (18:20):
Well, you know, the one thing we got to remember
here is that if we're starting to take legal advice
from the firm of you know, bailing Loci Colemt den Margeta,
we're probably you probably got to look elsehoere for your advice.
But yeah, this stuff is really complex, I mean, and
and someone does have to think about the whole picture,
which means there's compromises all throughout. And this stuff is

(18:43):
just it's challenging to try to make everybody happy, to
make the team's money, to make the fans, you know,
give the fans a product that they they want or
in some cases tolerate anyway. So yeah, a lot of
a lot of balls in the air, a lot.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Of balls in the air, and we have a full
grand stand today, right, Dan. I believe they said it
was a sellout a while back, wasn't it.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
Yeah, this race has been sold out probably since mid January,
so it's a it's a packed house. If everybody that
got their ticket shows up from Subito route, all.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Right, well we'll see about that. Some folks stay home
because of the forecast. You know, Chase Briscoe was your
pole sitter, and Austin Sindric that is your front row
no matter what happens.

Speaker 17 (19:27):
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Speaker 3 (19:27):
And by the way, I was able to go over
to the local casino and make a couple of bets
before qualifying, I mean, excuse me before the twins, and
I got Chase Briscoe at thirty to one, I got
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Eric Jones at fifty to one. Now that would make

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Speaker 3 (22:28):
You Welcome back to lt and the Daytona edition of LTN.
Kind of odd timing as far as I'm concerned. Pit Bull,
who the NASCAR and was very happy when he announced

(22:50):
that he was going to be part of the track
House Racing team, you know, to bring in another entertainer
with a with a I guess he's got of following.
I don't really know anybody that follows. But okay, so
we have this guy, Pitt Bull. What does he do anyway?
He's a rapper or something?

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Music?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
All right, Well, it seems like it was very odd
timing that this weekend he announced on social media that
he is ending his partnership with Trackhouse Racing effective immediately.
Now you have to ask yourself, what kind of pissing
contest did they just have that he quits on the

(23:30):
spot and he's going to entertain the crowd today too.
Former Cup owner Pitt Bull will now entertain the crowd. Dan,
you had a good theory there.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
Well, there's a lot of I mean people are expectating
a lot of what happened there, because it's kind of
odd that you announced something effective immediately right before the
biggest race of the year, the season starts, and you're
going to perform there the next day, you know, for
the Free Rice concert. There was rumors to hoards into
last year he was looking to get out of that deal,
and they all said, you know, it wasn't true, that
wasn't gonna happen. So maybe there was some smoke to

(24:05):
that fire there. A lot of people are looking at
track House the situation.

Speaker 9 (24:09):
And they got a deal.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
They're gonna have more drivers, they're gonna have cars because
you know, right now, last year z Aane Smith kind
of got the odd man out in the deal when
Van Gisberg and came in. Well, now he got Connor
Zillas who's kind of waiting in the wings, and he's
coming up fast.

Speaker 9 (24:22):
He's gonna have some cup starts already this.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
Year, and if you don't put him in a cup car,
you're gonna lose him to somewhere else. And I mean,
right now, he's got the potential to be, you know,
a superstar. So if that should happen, they're gonna have
to find a place to put him. And Suarez is
a guy who only had a one year extension, so
he's kind of on.

Speaker 9 (24:38):
The hant seat a little bit. If he don't, you.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
Know, perform, he may be out. And if you remember
when pit Bull came in, he was tied pretty heavily
with Daniel Swores. I mean that was kind of when
they put that deal together. So there's maybe that maybe
you know, they're not happy that if if if you
know Pitbull or Swars is out, maybe he's not happy
that way. Other people saying he's just cashing out. He
was an investment deal, he's been there for four or
five years. He'll take his money and run and do

(25:01):
something else.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Not when it's effective immediately the week of the Daytona
five hundred, you get the feeling that there's something else.
So basically the whole thing is Connor Zilich's fault for
being a guy that is so can't miss prospect that
they that it's pretty obvious they're going to have to
get rid of Daniel Suarez, who you know, he's not

(25:24):
a bad racer. He'll probably be around somewhere. How good
will he be, how competitive will race a year.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
He's very underachieving though, if you think about it, I mean.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
He he's not a guy that's gonna get you multiple
wins a year, you know. I mean he's he's popular
with the fans and stuff like that, but you know,
he's not a guy that's gonna constantly win races for
you when you have Connor Zillach sitting there that anytime
he's hopped in a car, he's found a way to win.
I mean he I think he won in his Sinity
debut last year for Cranne Alloud, so I could see

(25:58):
where that could be a hang up.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
Yeah, I agree with that, Brian. And it's it's just
the way the sport works, you know what I mean,
it's here and now and war as his head been
around a while and he's done okay, but maybe not
good enough to prevent somebody else coming and taking a spot.
I think Alex Bullman's kind of in the same situation
with Corey d coming up on the Hendricks side in
a little bit. So it's just kind of way it

(26:21):
is now and kind of sucks, but that's way it is.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
I don't think we should complain about it, though, because
for so many years we've been saying money buys people rides,
and now we're talking about talent again, and I think
that's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Well, absolutely absolutely, And that's where you have a difficult situation,
probably for justin Mark's sake, is trying to explain to
an investor in his business like Pitbull, about what this
is supposed to be all about, you know, And I
could see that probably being a very difficult conversation to
have because you know, Pitbull wasn't around the sport a
lot before this.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
You know, you can say he's a fan and not.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
But if you have a personal tie to someone and
that person isn't producing like others can.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
That's where you get into situations like this.

Speaker 7 (27:02):
Yeah, and don't forget that Zillis has a sponsor. You know,
it's not pit Bull. It's a red Bull, right and
he's there out there and they may come in and
do some investment there as well. Who knows it's out there,
what's in the works coming forward?

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Does that?

Speaker 5 (27:14):
So you're saying it's all bull?

Speaker 8 (27:18):
Does anyone remember who the other partner in track House was?

Speaker 3 (27:24):
No?

Speaker 8 (27:24):
Ty Norris left late last year, I believe, So suddenly
track House has a whole different within the last six months.
Trackhouse is looking a whole lot different than it did,
you know, from its start.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
And really, at the end of the day, they have
to survive and they have to put the best drivers
they possibly can in the car, and Connors Zilich has
more talent than unfortunately Daniel Suarez does, And so that's
where we're headed, folks. But the question I suppose of
the day is that what caused Pitbull to just pick

(28:03):
up his tent and move it to another circus. It
seems like that's what it is. But either way, Brian,
last week, I think it was when you mentioned that
NASCAR is going to have to adjust the schedule because
of the super Bowl possibly taken over this weekend, the

(28:23):
holiday weekend. I don't know if you saw anything from
that press conference, but Ben Kennedy, who's the guy from
NASCAR Blood Relation who makes these kind of decisions, talk
to a handful of reporters this week and said, we
are watching the super Bowl schedule and we haven't made
any hard decisions yet. He mentioned in this little impromptu

(28:49):
presser that they're thinking of the weekend before the super Bowl.
As you know, that's an open weekend for the NFL
as they build up, you know, all this drama for
the big game. Would that be a perfect place for it.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Maybe it's interesting you say that because watching some of
the short track stuff over the weekend and on the
dirt late model side of things, their Speed Week schedule
has a lot to do with how the NASCAR schedule
is because they've big build up to.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
The five hundred.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
And they were talking to last night after they finished
up their season, their Speed Week season that you know,
how where the five hundred lands is gonna have a
lot to do with how their schedule works. And if
you remember, you know they raced three weeks before that.
The weather was got awful down there for those weeks before,
So they're kind of in a they're kind of in
a situation too us, so where's NASCAR gonna go? Last year,

(29:38):
they tried to run some races after the five hundred.
They failed miserably with that. They didn't get any crowds,
nobody showed up. So the whole gamut of Speed Weeks
hinges on the NFL.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
If you can believe that, Yeah, sound but true.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
At their number one, we got to work around them,
and you know, that's the way it works. We're very
happy you're tuned in. We're gonna take a break and
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It almost seems to me ironic that this is the
same listening audience on the Internet that heard our longtime
listener and caller Paul from Racine a couple of weeks ago,
when I was pontificating on the addition to Ello castro
Nevis to the Daytona five hundred lineup and saying it

(32:17):
was going to be lucky if the guy was even
going to finish the race. He's not going to have
a good race, blah blah blah. And our friend Paul
from a scene called on The Hangover Show and actually
bet me one hundred dollars that he was going to
finish in the top fifteen, and I, you know, not

(32:37):
only did I accept the bet, but I spent the
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easiest hundred I've ever made in my life. Well, just
to prove that I may be onto something there, we've
had the opportunity to watch Ello castro Nevi's well, I
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(32:57):
he certainly has worked that portion of it of the
program out. He crashed in the twin qualifier, but of
course got in on a other sport provisional for Champion
or something they made up that didn't include Jimmy Johnson,
which is also kind of odd, but so your bottom

(33:20):
three starters in this race Martin Truex, former champion, Jimmy Johnson,
former seven time champion, and Elio castronev is four time
Indianapolis five hundred champion. Then Elio, just to hone his
craft in a stock car, got to race in what

(33:40):
could possibly be referred to as the worst race ever
run yesterday when the aforementioned ARCA series took the track
in the annual Human Sacrifice two hundred, where it was
absolute hard to watch. Uh it was on the c

(34:03):
W which, by the way, we're heaving Arco was on Fox.
Oh No, ARCA was on Fox and the other the
big network Fox. Yeah, which made it even worse. Uh,
they had to come up with so many things.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
They finish in that race. Todd, by the way, he
was fifth.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Place, So that must mean while we can assume one
of a couple of things. One they're good at fixing
his car because he was involved in uh I think
three crashes, but it might have been four. So you say,
just well, this guy is so talented that he actually
came back and finished fifth. Yeah, that's I suppose that's

(34:45):
one way to to uh to look at it, fifth
place and the ARCA race with half of the cars
in the garage. That's some kind of accomplishment right there.
But uh, this car, Dan is the same car that
he wrecked the other night because they didn't have a

(35:05):
backup car for Castro Nevies when he crashed in the
twin qualifier.

Speaker 7 (35:09):
Right, well, they had two backup cars, but one went
to Shane and Gisberg, then one went to Daniel swaz So,
so they're already used. They have no backup cars for anybody. So, yeah,
this is the car that was wrecked on Thursday. It's
pretty much kind of cobbled together with parts and pieces
from all the cars that were you know, still savage
of both from their recks. So I'm not sure how
good of a pieces be that way. And just from

(35:30):
watching Helio down here and and just you know, paying
attention to team communications and all that, I'm not I
was on Bryant's side begin with. I'm more going to
your side out to watch it. I don't think it's
all there to take such a team effort to make
this done. And I don't I'm not saying he's a
terrible driver. I'm just I don't think he understands the
environment yet, or or or his fits in all the
team to make this happen, unless unless everybody wrecks in

(35:52):
turn one, you know, when he finishes tenth.

Speaker 9 (35:54):
I'm gonna be on your side this week and listen.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
I like the guy. I really everybody likes Elliot Castron.
It's hard not to like him, and it's it's fun
to follow along with his Let's try and drive a
stock car in the biggest stock car race there is
for my first race. That's all great stories. You know,
he's a lovable guy, let's let's face it, and a

(36:16):
hell of a dancer. But really, can we think he's
gonna he's got enough to finish in the top fifteen. PJ.
You're the one that tried to put me back on
the cliff again on the ledge to jump because you
think he's actually gonna have a chance.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
Well, again, he doesn't have to win for you to lose.
He just needs to finish fifteenth fifteen, right right?

Speaker 4 (36:40):
You remember races over the years, you get I mean,
look at the list of people who've won this for
the last couple of years.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Derek freaking Cope.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Ricky Stenhouse, Austin Dillon, Robert Bendrick in his first.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Race, you know.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Yeah, I mean, so you never know, and.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
The fifteenth is all he has to do, right, and
there's a bunch of X that he manages to avoid at.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Over the last couple of years, haven't we sat in
the stands for this race and counted less than twenty
cars in the track at the end of this thing, right, lawyers.

Speaker 7 (37:12):
Yeah, yeahs as Trickle would say, right, there's a lot
of nutrition in this phrase.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, it's just a matter of hanging out, and we'll
see if he can hang out.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Castron Nevis not only wrecked the car in the twin
qualifier and a couple of three four times in the
ARCA race, he wrecked his car after the checkered flag.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yes, well that was not his fault time, of course,
none of them were his fault.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Well, I mean when you get right reared from the.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Anybody that can use him to see that he was
just slowing down and the guy behind him and.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Had already flown. I got I got one name for you.
That came the best thing that came out of yesterday's
ARCA race.

Speaker 15 (37:57):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
This this you his real name is Garrett Mitchell, not
to be confused with the center fielder from the Milwaukee Brewers,
Kletus McFarland, who has made all his money by being
an Internet sensation. Was the best interview we've had all
week long. He was so good and that race was

(38:19):
so bad that they brought him up to assist the
Fox folks up in the tower just because he was.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
He has a huge following. He had a camera live
streaming during the race in his car. Forty thousand plus
people were watching that live stream, so.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
He You know when PJ and I were at the
Freedom Factory Race, you remember that that was in Thanksgiving weekend.
This guy was the owner of that. He's twenty nine
years old. He paid two point two million dollars for
the track, and from what I have been able to
figure out, which means it may or may not be true,

(39:04):
all of his money comes from being a social media influence.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
Your betting partner is on the line.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Oh well, we're not gonna be able to talk to
him to any because it's time. It's time for a
break and then we come back with results, so I
don't have to listen to this doc. Come on, he's
gonna send me a check and that's gonna work. I'll
send you my address. We're gonna take a break and
come back with results. Thanks for tuning into our annual
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Turn on the Dirt with Brian.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Schmidt the final week of speed Week's twenty twenty five.
This week the Late Models and the USAC national Sprint
Cars taking center stage. We'll start Monday night at Vaalucia
Speedway Park in Barberville, Florida. The dirt car U and
P sanction of the Late Models seven thousand dollars to win.
Nick Hoffman was your winner in the fog. The fog
was rolling in big time Monday night. If you watched

(42:15):
that race, it was very eerie looking. They just hurried
along and all of a sudden, the backstretch would start
to disappear, so they had a pan to the camera
on the backstretch to get it. So it was pretty eerie.
Nick Hoffman got the win. The USAC National Sprint Cars,
Kyle Cummins was your winner. They did the same thing
again Tuesday night, another seven thousand dollars to win for
the UNP Late Models. Ricky Thornton Junior continued his stellar
speed weeks, picking up yet another feature win, and in

(42:37):
the USAC Amazela National Sprint Cars it was Logan CEV.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
Wednesday night, the.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Sprint cars moved out and the big Black Modifieds moved in.
The sprint cars headed over to a Calla, Florida, where
they started their four race swing. Justin Grant grabbed the
future win there. Back at VLUSHA, they ran three five
thousand dollars to win UNP Late Model features for the
entire field of sixty one cars that were there. Those
feature winners were Ricky Thornton Junior, Jonathan Port, and Brandon Overton.
The superdit Caresseries Big Block Modifights, Matt Sheppard was your winner.

(43:05):
Thursday night, back at o'calla for the USAC National Sprint Cars,
Brady Bacon was your winner. In Barbarville, Florida. The World
of out Law Late Model Series took over the sanctioning
for that race, twelve thousand dollars to win. Garrett Alberson
his second feature winner of the season at VLUSHA, picking
up the win he won one earlier in the Sunshine
Nationals back in January for the Super Dirt Carts Series
Big Block Modifights.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
Alec Jankowski was your winner.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Friday night at o'calla the Yusak Amzel national Sprint Cars,
Kyle Cummins picked up the future win again at VLUSHA,
another twelve thousand dollars to win for the World out
Law Late Models. Devin Moran drove from eighth to the
win in a that was a slobber knocker of a
race for the Late Models if you've ever seen one bead,
Jonathan Davenport and Bobby Pierce going at it. Lots of
carnage in that race, but Devin Moran emerged as the

(43:48):
victor and the superdurt Crusiers Big Block Modifights Peter Britton
was your winner and they wrapped it up last night
at o'calla, the final night for the USAK Sprint Cars,
Dason Pursley was your winner and the final night at
Vlusha twenty thousand dollars the win for the World of
out Law Late Models. Jonathan Davenport drove from twelfth to
the win. Pretty entertaining feature at the end him and.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
I'm trying to think who what.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
The twenty two car were side by side for lap
after lap after lap. The rubber was kind of on
ou Drake Trautman was in the twenty two car on
the bottom and Davenport on the top, and it was
starting to take rubber on the bottom of the track
and we thought, there's no way you're going to make
that work. But Davenport cowboyed up and got around him
with a handful of laps to go and drove off
to the win. He did not, however, win the Big
Gator for the week. That went to Ricky Thornton Junior.

(44:31):
With his solid week he had. In the final event
of the week, the fifty lap Super Decursors Big Block Modifights,
Eric Rudolph grabbed the win.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
There. That is everything.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
The late Models are going to take a couple weeks
off now before they try to get back at it
if the weather cooperates in mid March.

Speaker 6 (44:47):
All right, onto the Asphalt the World Series of Asphalt
at New Smyrna's Speedway, picking up from last Sunday. The
super late Model winner for that thirty five laper was
Corey Hall. Pro Late Models was Hunter Right and the
floor Florida Modifieds it was Cody Stickler and the six
oh two Modifieds was Nicholas Hovey. Monday Pro Late Model
winner Max Reeves, the NASCAR Wheeland Modified Tour Austin Beers

(45:11):
Florida Modifieds Tim Moore and the six oh two Modifieds
Max Handlaid. On Tuesday night, it was the ASA Stars
Tour Slaber Knocker two hundred. Gavin Bouchell came out on
top as the winner. William Sewallach, Corey Hall, George Phillips,
and Stephen Nassey rounded out the top five of those
who were still running. Notables were Christopher Bell six the

(45:33):
Gabe Summer seventh, Bubba Pollard ninth, Derrick Krause twelfth, Austin
Mason thirteenth, Ty Majeski twenty fifth, Paul Shaeffer Junior twenty sixth,
then ty Frederickson twenty ninth.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Wait a minute, wasn't Ty leading that race?

Speaker 18 (45:47):
He was?

Speaker 3 (45:48):
As matter of fact, he got.

Speaker 6 (45:52):
He got tangled up.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
We'll just say he got knocked in the slaber Knocker.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
He got knocked in the slaber knocker.

Speaker 7 (45:59):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
The NASCAR Our Wheeling Modified Tour winner was Patrick Emmerlin.
That's at Bobby Doughter Car. Florida Modified's winner was Chuck Barnes.
On Tuesday night onto Wednesday, the super late Model winner
was Carson Brown, teammate to another slobber Knocker. Pro Late
Model winner was Hunter Wright Randy Sargent. Notably, twentieth NASCAR

(46:20):
Wheeling Modified Tour winner on Wednesday was Patrick Emmerlen again.
The six o' two Modified's winner was Nicholas Hovey. On Thursday,
the super late models back for the Orange Blossom Special.
One hundred sixteen cars entered because there was so much
carnage the other night, your winner was Gavin Bouchell. He
was also the overall World Series of Asphalts super Late

(46:42):
Model champion. Notables were Gabe Summers got onto the podium
with a third place finished and Ty Frederickson finishing fifth,
Derrick Kraus sixth, and Bobby Kendall.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Eleventh.

Speaker 6 (46:54):
Pro late Model winner was Brody Monahan, the overall World
Series of Asphalt Pro Late Model champ Hunter Right. The
NASCAR Wheeling Modified Tour winner was Patrick Emmerlin again, and
then the six oh two Modified's winner was Nicholas Hovey.
And then Friday night the NASCAR Wheeling Modified Tour had
their Richie Evans Memorial one hundred. The winner Matt Hirshman

(47:17):
and the overall winner for the NASCAR Wheeling Modified's Champion
for the World Series of Asphalt was Patrick Emmerlin in
that Bobby Dodter car. And that's all we got for
the pavement.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
We mentioned there has been some racing at that other
track in town. The twins were won by Austin Sindrick
and Bubba Wallace on Thursday. Truck Series raced on Friday night.
I don't care what you tell me. Parker Kliggerman won
that damn race. Of course, he got de queued afterwards
because the back end of the truck was too low low.

(47:53):
Corey Heim got that kind of a and that's going
to be where you said get pictures and all that,
You just get a trophy, you know.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
And Parker said it on yesterday in the pre race
for the CWRA he's one of the commentators for the
Xcinity Series that he thinks they have a very good
case because it'll be appealed on Tuesday. And if you
really think about how that whole thing works there, those trucks,
they had no practice because it rained out on Thursday.
All they did is roll them out and qualify them
on Friday, and at Daytona they qualify him. There, they

(48:23):
go through tech, they qualify them, so they're out a
pit road for qualifying. They run their qualifying laps and
immediately after that they get impounded behind Victory Lane.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
Like nobody can be by them.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
There's a big fence between the fans and the crew
and everybody, and they sit there until they push them
on on the track. So his I think his case
is going to be what happened from the time we
were TechEd to the time we raced.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
By the way. Speaking of the trucks, ty Majeski finished
third in that one. Johnny Sauder had a pretty interesting race.
He found himself going back and forth from the front
to the back of a couple of three four times
and god involved. He was right up towards the front
going into turn three of the last lap when he

(49:05):
got involved with another truck, sent him down into the infield,
and he managed to not crash it. He went all
the way down and nursed the thing back onto the
race track. I think he finished seventeenth, which wasn't a
bad day. Considering sixteenth after the Q, Yeah, sixteenth after

(49:25):
the DQ. There you have it. And then in the
ARCA race, butter Bean Queen wins the what could be
the worst race ever run. Elo Castronevez was fifth in
that one, just to prove that he does have a
shot to win the Daytona five hundred. Today we got
to see some of the best and some of the worst.

(49:47):
You had a television team that had to talk and
talk and talk, and it was so bad that they
finally brought old Kletus McFarland up to the tower to
help them out. We learned some names like Amber Balkan,
what not driver. First of all, she has very nice makeup.
I have to admit she all the drivers that I saw,

(50:09):
her makeup was the best. But my god, I wouldn't
want to be racing next to her very often. Brian,
you actually know or you did know you raced against
his dad.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Yeah, she's been around. She's been around a while. This
is probably her fourth season in ARCA, I would say.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Her dad, Mike Balkan, ran with SOA Late Models for
many years. When we ran the Wholda Challenge series in
the early two thousands, we saw him quite a bit,
and Dan and I talked to him on Pitt Road
a couple of years ago before the ARCA race.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
So, I mean she raises all that money on her own.
That is not a money pit.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Her dad says, I put no money into that car
at all. She goes and finds her own sponsors. She's
a very accomplished sprint car driver from the North Dakota area.
They're from Canada, but she come into the United States
to race. So she's just been on the struggle bus
big time in ARCA and Arca's difficult.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
That's difficult, you know. It's yeah, it's really.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Hard to say who is and who isn't any good
when you watch an ARCA because they just bought each
other all up all the time.

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Here for every you I neglected to give the Exfinity
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Jesse Love won his first race at Daytona, but it
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ties to the state. Sam Mayer in his first race
in that forty one car for that HAS team was second. Quopple,
the Quopple Kid did pretty darn good finishing fourth. Josh
Bilicki had a real good race going when he got
clobbered from behind by a guy that completely lost his

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brains entering the pits. Took Josh out and just managed
to come back and finish fourteenth. Good for him. Parker
Ritzloff also with there he was twenty night.

Speaker 7 (54:28):
You gotta wonder if Blicky's cars got kicked me on
the back of Beck because every time it comes to
seems to run into from behind like that.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Yeah, no kidding, Dan, Did you have a couple of
things you wanted to tease us with here?

Speaker 7 (54:42):
Well, I think you just keep in mind as we
go on here the schedule, you know, it runs out
and some of the races that Mexico race on the
schedule is probably the biggest, most anticipated race so far
this year. Now, there's a lot of logistical challenges with that,
and they're starting to address those now. Those logistical challenges.
I do think some contingency plans are in the works

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in case those challenges get to be a little.

Speaker 9 (55:05):
Too hard to overcome. So we'll see.

Speaker 7 (55:07):
I mean, right now they're working at putting it together.
But I think it wouldn't surprise me. Maybe see another
race here in Daytona this year.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
An extra race in Daytona. Okay, that's that's interesting. This
doesn't have anything to do with all those troops that
are suddenly formed up on the on the border, is it.
I don't know, does that make sense? Probably not.

Speaker 7 (55:33):
Now, I know there's a lot, here's a lot of
stuff going on and a lot of issues. That way
they got to do it. It was gonna be a challenge.
I'll justistically anyways to get the cars there, and so
obviously you got to pay attention to what's going on
there and and the kind of situations that are rising there.

Speaker 9 (55:46):
We'll see.

Speaker 7 (55:46):
I mean, it's I'm they're starting to work them out now.
Maybe we'll get everything figured out. But I do think
there's some backup plans in place.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Interesting, Oh, completely interesting. Hey, Caster Nevis isn't doing that
bad already. He's gonna have eight cars starting the race
behind him. The five, forty eight, ninety nine, eighty eight, seven, six,
thirty five and fifty four all had to go to
backup cars because, after all, one hundred and fifty mile
qualifier race is too much to ask for these guys

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to have these primary cars make it through and actually
make it to the five hundred. So that's how that goes.
All right, we're at the point where we make our
picks for this. I would say that if it's not,
we don't all have to take somebody different. If you
agree with one of our picks, go ahead and say
it and we'll go it. I'm hey, I'm gonna get
right out there. It's going to be the twenty three car.

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Bubba Wallace is going to take Michael Jordan and headline
Hamlin and he's going to talk. They're going to talk
lawsuits in Victory Lane. It's just a beautiful thing. That's
where we're heading. And yes, I did put money where
my mouth is. I think I'll go to Dan next.
What do you got Danil?

Speaker 7 (56:58):
All right, I'm gonna go his teammate, Tyler Reddick. I
think that Toyota's workeral well together. There's more of this
race has ever been before with Truix and Johnson. Now
there's eleven Toyotas they ever had that much. They do
a real good job of working together. Fords do as well,
but the Toyota's seemed fast that weak. I'm gonna go
with Tyler Reddick, Bryan.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
I'm gonna go with the outside front roastedter.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
He's gonna win his second Daytona five hundred, and it's
gonna be Austin syndric inexplicable as why. But it's just
one of those things where those guys find a way
to win that and those Penske forwards are very strong.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
All right. Pj's gonna actually give us two picks today,
not only for herself but for that other guy in
the family, Toby.

Speaker 6 (57:38):
Toby wants to go with Chris Busher. I know you're
all shocked to hear that. And I'm taking Ryan Blaney.
I know you're shocked to hear that too. He's also
my pick to win the championship again this year.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
Wow, alright, you three in a row.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Holy there's one honest to God expert amongst us, and
he's now going to tell us who's gonna win the
Daytona five hug.

Speaker 8 (58:00):
Oh my gosh, I'm less qualified to do this than
I am to offer legal advice. Let's be let's be
honest here. Yeah, I actually I mean every pick I've heard,
I'm like, okay, yeah, I can believe that makes perfect sense.
So I'm gonna go with Eric Jonesy.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
Todd would be really happy, probably take you out for dinner.

Speaker 8 (58:21):
Yes, I think I'm on the hook for tomorrow anyway.
But no, it's one of those sentimental things too. You'd
like to see him kind of get rewarded. Yeah, he
got shafted the other night. So Carmel, baby, I love it.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Yeah, I do too. At fifty to one, you're damn right.
I like that pick.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
But let's go.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
There's a toyota I can root for. Hey, thanks so
much for tuning in for this annual Daytona five hundred
episode of the program. My thanks to the award winning
journalist Dave Coleman for joining us in studio here today,
and for everybody else for tuning in. And as I
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