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January 26, 2025 • 59 mins
LTN RADIO NETWORK - January 26,2025


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Speaker 1 (00:09):
From various locations via the miracle of Skype. It's the LTNR.
Let's Talk Nascar with your host, Todd Bailing, co hosts
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(00:30):
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Hey, thanks for joining us. The good news is that
this is the last program in the month of January.
As a matter of fact, by next week we'll be
getting ready for the clash, which is going to be
a week from today. Isn't that awesome?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
There, Todd Bailing in Phoenix, Arizona, joined by my three
partners spread out across the state of Wisconsin, starting with
Brian Schmid up in Utsburg, Usahi morning.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yes, it's great to see some racing back on. We
got the twenty four hours going on, lots of short
track racing in Florida and then the clash next week
rock em Sockham Robots at Bowman Gray.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
I ought'll be interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
We're winding up this season. PJ Noodleman on the other
side of this, on the other Coast of Wisconsin.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
Sunshine and sixteen in Trumpla, Wisconsin today. Excited for the
guests you have lined up.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
More on that in a bit, yes, Yes, and of
course Dan Margetta, longtime producer, director and all around good
guy from Saint Francis, Wisconsin.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
Hey, good morning.

Speaker 8 (01:43):
About the same weatherwise here as everybody else. We're kind
of the same there. But yeah, it's the last off
weekend of the season and I'll I guess we get
into it starting next week and kind of kicked off already,
we said with the twenty four hours going on. Brian
even following that as well. It's a pretty decent event
right now with the Penske cars and kind of up
front and they're battling at BMW for the overall lead.
But the other classes have some pretty good battles.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Too, Yes, yeah, some big names in the front of that.
You got Penske, there are two Porsches, and then Ray
Hall Letter Letterman Landing and Racing. They have their GTP
BMW car running up at the front. Those three have
been the top cars so far and they're they're on
the same lap right now. Powerhouses in the GT Pro
you got Ford versus Porsche versus Chevrolet, the Corvette all

(02:28):
up at the front of it. So some really good
battles up there, and some powerful manufacturers. You know, IMPS
is more about the car than it is the driver
kind of in my opinion. And what a lot of
people watch it's to see those battles amongst all those manufacturers.
And they had sixty one cars start this race yesterday,
and I believe there's still well over forty mid forties
still running.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
So there was a massive accident, wasn't there.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, there was a pretty good one last night around
I think it was around about nine o'clock our time.
Coming out of the pits, cold tires got sideways, spun
and then kind of bounce back in in front of
everybody else took out I don't know, about four or
five cars, so most of those, though at that point
of time there's still sixteen hours left, we're able to
go in and make repairs, and most of those are
back out on the course at this time. So now

(03:13):
I talked to someone who knew someone who was there
yesterday and they estimated talks around the infield and in
the stands of over well over eighty thousand people.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
There yesterday for the start of that race.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
So aw, that's a huge crowd for IMPSA and Impcess.
I mean it's gaining power, Dan. We see it every
year when we're at road America. The crowds get bigger
and bigger and bigger. And the car platform that they
have going on, I think is what is getting people
drawn to this is to see the incredible technology out there.

Speaker 8 (03:40):
Yeah, I think people like to see that, especially those
kind of you know, sports car fans, and it has
really picked up, like you said, with all the different
manufacturers coming. I think, what is a Lamborghini? Didn't they
you have a car or the only they blew up
for two hours over it. But ay, there's you know,
NASCAR's got what three manufacturers, I mean imst's probably got
four or five now right, Oh there's.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
There's yeah, there's even more than that. There's amongst all
four classes. It's crazy. I thought it was something like
upwards of like over a dozen different manufacturers involved. It's
crazy how many there are. But yeah, to see IMPS
and I mean it's not like it's beautiful in Florida.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
It was chilly.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I mean last night I believe it was dip down
into the mid thirties, and it was only in the
upper fifties low sixties during the day. Yesterday, it's bright sunshine,
but the weather hasn't been the greatest, so to get
that kind of crowd with that kind of weather, it's
very impressive.

Speaker 8 (04:25):
And all days to to used to do five minute
updates every hour out in the hour, back on the
old TVs days, and you have to set your alarm
and get up and watch a five minute updates, go
back to sleep for an hour again.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Who does that?

Speaker 8 (04:36):
I did that back in the day. Now you can
watch the whole thing straight through if you want.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
They showed a little clip late late last night, right
before I was around eleven o'clock. When I was watching it,
Kim Kun was up on the roof of the spotter
stand and all the spotters where the.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Cup spotters are, they use them for this as.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Well, and many of them had like little ice chanties
like we see here in Wisconsin on the lakes propped
up there and they're sitting inside there, bundled up with
their little iPad up there. And then I mean, think
about trying to spot at night. It's so hard to
see your car because you got the glare of the
headlights on there. But those guys are up there and
they rotate out, but there was always a spot her
up there for twenty four hours in a little ice shanty.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's really weird looking unbelievable. Now, the race actually started.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Around noon, yeah, just before one o'clock yesterday.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Oh okay, and it was televised. Now, if you're looking
forward on your satellite or cable provider, you're gonna have
a hard time finding it because it's not on. You
have to spend the seven to ninety nine a month
and get Peacock the future of auto racing. It seems
like to me, doesn't that it'll.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Come back on though, right after our program on NBC,
and you'll be able to watch the end of it.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
There's about two hours and just over two and a
half hours.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Left, so it's on the big channel. It's on channel
four correct, all right, very good, so you'll be able
to see the end of it. What do they show
the last what did you say? An hour or two?

Speaker 4 (05:58):
It'll be about yeah, a little over and all left.
When they get on the air at eleven o'clock.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
They probably want to make sure they're off the air completely.
By the time the NFL Playoffs start, which is probably
a good thing because you know, it tends to draw
away from racing when you have the NFL Playoffs on there.
And so that's as we said, this might be what
you're going to have to do in the future to
watch NASCAR races is spend the money and buy the

(06:25):
peacock and then make sure you get good internet and
smart TV and all that crap. Just they're making you
work for it again, and that's just the way it works. Sometimes.
If you were listening closely, you heard PJ in the
beginning when we were introducing ourselves, she said something about
being kind of excited about our guests today. We're all

(06:48):
excited because every thirty five years, whether we need to
or not, we're going to have Mark Martin on the
program today. And yeah, I think it's been about what
did you tell me Dan nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 7 (07:03):
Yeah, I believe nineteen eighty nine was the last time
he was on.

Speaker 8 (07:06):
It was just before they went out in Phoenix, or
just after they went to Phoenix. They had he was
talking about they did an intro for the Phoenix race,
or they had him sitting at the end of the
bar and they slid a drink down the bar and
he had to catch it. When were asking how he
takes it took to catch that, that was I think
it was right after eighty nine Phoenix event.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
You remember all of that stuff. It's absolutely amazing to me.
I can tell you. The first time we had him
on the program was shortly. I think it was our
second season because Mark came out to the old Wauk
studio there and he had on a real nice, you know,

(07:43):
Miller American racing sweater, and he was a reference. And
he came out and was sat next to us when
we did the program, which pretty good. Before any of
you had anything to do with the show, I would
imagine Dan, you more than likely what were you about
ten years old listening on your dad? It's a transistor?

Speaker 8 (08:02):
Yeah, pretty much, it's about it. I think it was
about he started in eighty five. I would have been fifteen.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Fantastic. Well, Mark is these days a automobile dealer. He
has Mark Martin Ford in Batesville, Arkansas, but he's not
there right now. He has this big if. He's very
active on social media, and you might be able to
follow what he's up to. When he posts things, and

(08:28):
he has this big, spectacular motor home and drives around
for the winter and gets the hell out of cold weather,
which you know you have the means why wouldn't you.
So Mark will be on after the break and well
let's see if we can wherever he is we can
get some self service with him. That'll be pretty nice.
As we said, the season is coming fast. It's pretty awesome.

(08:52):
Everything is heating up Brian. Saturday, they're going to have
heat races out there right.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Correct, yep, heat races and qualifying for the for the
cup cars that are involved in that.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Believe the local modifieds.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Are also going to be a part of the program
on Saturday out.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
There the twenty three to eleven entry that is number
forty five. I don't know if any of you saw
the pictures, but there's they posted a picture of what
their car is going to look like and it has
the logo for Air Jordan, which is, you know, Jordan's
doing a slam dunk and it's a outline of him

(09:30):
and they have a slash going through the logo, which
kind of means, you know, we're still here even after
it's all legal stuff. Dan briefly nothing has really happened
in the legal department right lately.

Speaker 7 (09:44):
Oh, it's been kind of on hold for a while.

Speaker 8 (09:45):
I think whenever their next hearing comes, it's maybe about
a week or two of the next one.

Speaker 7 (09:49):
They are they may have some more.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Have nothing to report here, but what we are going
to do is called Mark Martin during the break. So
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Speaker 2 (11:51):
Well, this is exciting. The last time we had Mark
Martin on this program, by our calculations, was nineteen eighty nine,
and I have a pretty good idea. Mark's probably surprised
we're still doing this after all these years. Welcome back, Mark,
nice to have you.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well, thank you. It's good to be back with you guys.
And no, I'm not surprised. It's a great radio show
and it's a fantastic tradition.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
There you go. You know, Mark, your career has taken
so many different twists and turns over the years that
we could spend a couple of hours just talking about
where it's gone. But since you spent three seasons in
Wisconsin that I remember anyway, it's eighty four, eighty five,
and eighty six, I kind of like to just go

(12:43):
back to those days briefly. And I'm curious to find
out after the Patches Stove people did their best to
ruin your career when you had a foray into NASCAR,
you had to go back, and here you are in
Batesville trying to figure out what to do with your career.
How did you end up in Wisconsin?

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, I go into great detail in our book that
I'm really excited to share with the Wisconsin race fans
because there's no doubt in my mind that the Wisconsin
race fans are the greatest race fans in the nation.
And I cherished the time that I had there, not

(13:27):
only with the fans, but with the greatest competitors of
all that I built the foundation of my career on
of my NASCAR career. Yeah, so really, you know, I
crashed and burned, so to speak, in my NASCAR first

(13:47):
NASCAR effort in nineteen eighty two. At the end of
the year, I raced on credit. At the end of
the year, I owed good Year, Hutcherson, Pagan, and a
bunch of people a lot of money, and so I
auctioned off all of my equipment, everything that I had,
including my toolbox, and paid off all my debts. And

(14:12):
you know, it was going to have to start my
career all over again. And the good people in Beaver Dam, Wisconsin,
Randy Rible and Bob and Tom Ribal had Bob and
Tom racing and they had a Frings car, and I
meant and wanted to go racing, and I managed to

(14:35):
get us a Handley car as well. So we ran
the Handley car in ASA, in the Frings car and
all the art going open shows and Slinger Nationals and whatnot,
and kind of got back on my feet there in
nineteen eighty four with the rivals, and thank goodness to

(14:57):
all of great you know men and women that that
supported us, all volunteer help there. We had a great season.
And uh and I got a chance to come to
work for for Jerry Gunderman for eighty five and the

(15:17):
opportunity with you know, with Jimmy Finning and Jeffrey Finning
and just a massive army of tremendous volunteer help. They're
at Gunderman's for eighty five and eighty six, and I
really cherished my time there with Jerry. Jerry was such
a good man, such a racer, was so much fun.

(15:44):
We had a few beers, for sure. Yeah, more than
you had a car for you what's oh yeah, Yeah.
We booked a car for eighty six and did some
sent on the outside tool of Atlanta with that thing

(16:05):
and ran really well out of Riverside the road course.
We had. We had a good time. But you know this,
it was it was the time of you know, me
rebuilding my career and connecting with the with the great
people of Wisconsin that I had already built my my
first NASCAR career on you know, up there racing with

(16:30):
with Trickle and and Refner and Mike Miller and Joe
Cheer and very Degons and just on and on and on.
Tom Refner was just such a such a golden person,
such a good person. Dick was a tremendous competitor and
a great great guy to to measure yourself, uh you

(16:53):
know against, because Dick was certainly the best. And so
uh yeah, that's the greatest time in my career, the
time I spent in Wisconsin. And that's why as soon
as I get this book done, I'm going to come
up and spend some time with the fans and you

(17:16):
know book tour autographed stuff, and we're you know, we're
really going to have a good time with it.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Well, we'd like to have you at Slinger Speedway just
if nothing else to sell books. But you know that
I they just announced that there's going to be an
ASA race back at Slinger Speedway. There has only been one,
a three hundred lapper, and it was in I think
nineteen eighty four, and there wasn't even one caution flag

(17:43):
in that thing. I believe you you were the only
car on the lead lap if I remember right, Is
that true.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
I don't know about being the only car, but I
do know that we won. It was my first ASA
win after leaving you know, in eighty one and going
NASCAR racing, and it was a big win for Bob
Tom Racing and and for the crowd from beaver Dam.
For sure. Yeah, we uh somehow or another. I don't

(18:16):
remember the circumstances, but I think I got spun in that.
I do think there were casts. There was a caution
because I got spun out and I actually slid down
into the infield and hit a wrecker, not very hard,
but hit a tow truck down there. And I came
in and put tires on and drove back through the
field and won the race. So yeah, it was that.

(18:40):
That was cool. But I love Slinger. I love the
people that come to Slinger. I have. I've been meaning
to come to Slinger for the last five years, but
I continue to wait, wait, wait till we get this
book done, because you know, we can have so much
fun autographing the book for the fans. They're gonna love

(19:01):
this so much. There's so much, so many stories in
there that the fans don't know. There's even stories in
there that my own family didn't know because they were
so in Their stories were so embarrassing that I hadn't
even told them. So it's kind of a tell all
kind of book. It'll open some eyes, for sure. But

(19:26):
we've been working on this thing three years and we're
looking like we're hoping in a year and a half
it'll be pump published. So summer of twenty six is
our plan to get out there, and I'm just planning
on getting into motor home and riding around the country
and dissing all the short tracks and hanging out with

(19:46):
the fans.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
And that's fantastic. Life is good for Mark Martin, the
great race car driver that spent a couple of years
in Wisconsin. We're gonna sneak away for a brick and
Mark is gonna come back for another segment. Make sure
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Speaker 2 (22:21):
We're talking with our old friend Mark Martin. I Uh, there's,
like I mentioned, there's so many different things we could
be talking to them about. PJ is ready to ask
you a couple of questions, but I have to ask you.
Used to be a neighbor of John Travolta's down there
right outside of Daytona, and you had a jet in

(22:41):
your garage. Do you still fly.

Speaker 13 (22:45):
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Speaker 3 (22:46):
Once I retired, Arlene and I started traveling in the
in the bus, in the motor coach, and we kind
of got spoiled to have in our house wherever we went,
and we just didn't didn't use the plane that much.

(23:06):
And of course I'm truly retired. In other words, I
don't I don't do any any other kind of business
or work or whatever, and it just didn't make sense
to hang on to it. So everywhere we go, we
go in the motor hoole.

Speaker 6 (23:26):
So, Mark, yours is a great story, having to rebuild
your career path early on. What is the best racing
advice that you ever received and who was it from?

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I don't know the first one that comes to my
mind my first year on asphalt late models, of course,
was racing against Trickle and and all the greats, and
I bumped into a few things that first year, and

(24:01):
Dick walks up to me. We got to the racetrack
one day and he walks over and puts that old
arm around around me, and he says, you know, in
order to finish first, first, you must finish. And that
might be the best, best one ever. That certainly shaped

(24:24):
the driving style that I had all the way through NASCAR.

Speaker 16 (24:30):
That's awesome.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
And then, speaking of some more memories here, is there
one in particular that when you look back at it,
in addition to the one you just shared though, that
just really makes you howl laughing just thinking back on
it again.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Oh gosh, I don't know. I had so much fun.
We had quite a bit of fun off the racetrack.
We like to always, you know, Jim Weber was so
much fun at the racetrack and all.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
One time we pulled into a truck stop after we'd
all been at a race and and we put, you know,
my guys and I pulled into a truck stop, We're
gonna grab something to eat, and where Weber's rig was
parked out there in the parking lot and I don't

(25:29):
seem like I wasn't going to go in to eat.
When I saw Weber's rig and I went over there,
the key was in it. You know this this is
a different time than it is nowadays. Key was in it.
So I just started it up and pulled it over
to the other side of the of the uh the

(25:49):
lot where you couldn't see it, and never said anything,
just left we you know, we got done eating and left.
And you know when I look and I, you know,
found out that Jim was pretty pissed about it. And
I thought it was a good joke. But on retrospect,
you know that was I'm sure they thought their rig

(26:12):
was stolen and it wasn't easy to find, and that
was not It probably wasn't nearly as funny as I
thought it was.

Speaker 16 (26:21):
Did he ever find out it was you that did that?

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Well, he never whipped my ass, so I guess he
probably didn't.

Speaker 16 (26:31):
Oh that's awesome.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
I'm excited to read your book and to kind of
go down memory lane with you.

Speaker 16 (26:37):
And speaking of.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
The memories, you have a phenomenal memory. I can remember
seeing you talking setups at Kacana with Tima Jesky, and
you remember the shocks and the springs of all the
different races.

Speaker 16 (26:52):
How do you remember all of that?

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Well? Usually I answer in kind of a you know,
smart elk remark, and I say that stuff was important.
I don't know. I don't have that great memory. I
don't remember what I did yesterday. And it's it's really
starting to you know, the age is starting to take

(27:17):
its toll from my memory. But I can still see
a picture of a race car, of one of my
cars on the racetrack, uh, you know, with the checker
flat or whatever. And when I see the car and
I see the track, I remember the you know, the springs,
the shocks, the weight distribution between a few tints of

(27:40):
a percent, the tire stagger if if it's not a tire,
real tire, you know, I can remember what what compounds
the tires were. That's what made the difference. You see.
I couldn't not rely on out driving Dick Triple or

(28:05):
Bob Sinecer I had, or Larry Phillips for that matter.
Before I got to Triple and Sinecer, I had to
rely on making my car better, and so that was
paramount to me. And I could beat those guys if
I made my car good enough, and so you know,

(28:30):
that stuff was really important. And I did the setups
and I did the tires. Those were my things. I
did not wire the cars, you know, that wasn't my thing.
But shaping the body, you know, hanging the bodies. But
you know, the things that made the difference between winning
and not winning were were arrow which people didn't recognize

(28:55):
in the early eighties, late seventies.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
I did.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
But that and SUP and tires were meant either won
or lost, and so those things were super critical. And
I didn't have to take notes. I usually remembered what
gear I ran, and what set up and everything from
each and every track through those years seventy seventy nine,

(29:19):
eighty eighty one era for sure, and then then all
the way up through eighty six until I went back
NASCAR racing, and then someone else was doing all of that.
And when someone else did all that, I couldn't tell you,
except I can tell you some of the NASCAR wins,
Like I know what springs were in the car Rockingham,

(29:42):
I know the set up from Rocky Ham nineteen eighty nine,
when we got our first win nineteen ninety three at Phoenix.
I can tell you verbatim the chassis set up in
the cup car there, So it is kind of strange,
but it's selective. That memory is not on everything, it
is selected.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's amazing him win in the stros light car. I'll
never forget it. It was a pretty big day for
all your fans up here.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah. That was a seventeen fifty and twelve hundred and
a player of three in a quarters nine nine and
ten inch slack bar, an inch and eighth swave bar.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Oh my god. Well, like I said, we could talk
to you for hours and be entertained, but I know
you probably want to go out and watch the motor
home or something. But we do appreciate you taking a
little time with us.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
Mark.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Hey, let's the next time we do this. Let's make
sure it's not thirty five more years.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Okay, Yeah, let's do I'm going to spend some time
up there with everybody with Wisconsin Race fans. I'm looking
forward to it. I can't wait. It's going to be
a big time coming up soon, hopefully starting in twenty
six and but we'll be doing it for a few years,

(31:05):
so I really really look forward to getting up there
and hanging out.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Fantastic the great Mark Martin, our guest. Thanks Mark, I
hope to talk to you in the near future, and
for everybody else, thanks for being here, and we're going
to take a break and come back. Hang in there.

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Sunday, It's Bill's Chiefs and the AFC Championship Game.

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Go Yeah, Bill, Waukee's Old for Super Bowl fifty nine,
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Speaker 2 (33:16):
Man, Welcome back to LTN. Boy, Oh boy, that's hard
to reminisce a hell of a lot in just twenty minutes.
But Mark, we'll have Mark back when when that book
comes out. And I got a feeling there's gonna be
some really good stories coming from the state of Wisconsin
in that book. That's fantastic. If anybody wants to participate.

(33:40):
We don't give the number as much as we used to,
but it's four one four four to two one seven
nine zero one and we we'd love to talk to you.
We mentioned the Rolex twenty four is today. The clash
weekend coming up next weekend where they're going to go
and hopefully it won't snow. Let's see North Carolina. It's

(34:00):
not like Florida where it's snowing. It's not like California
where it's burning down. But it may be cold and crappy.
You never know. You race in February and northern I
mean in North Carolina, and yet stuff happens sometimes. So
we'll just have to keep an eye on everything for
next week.

Speaker 7 (34:19):
Remember the third race of the year is always rocking him.
That was like late February.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
That's right, and.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Right now it looks pretty good.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Well, there's a chance of rain next Saturday in fifty
nine and then Sunday for the actual day of the
race high at sixty low forty two, with a small
chance of precipitation, so it might not be too bad.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
That's that's good for now. Let's keep our fingers crossed
that it all works well. NASCAR's you know, there's things
that are that are common. First of all, speaking of Rockingham,
which is by the way, how many of you remember
Mark winning that first race at Rockingham and that dark
blue stros.

Speaker 7 (34:54):
I do because it siks so long.

Speaker 8 (34:56):
Remember how he's always he tried and tried and try
to get that first win. I think people were just
waiting for them to celebrate and break that first one.
I remember he raced Earnhardt at Dover a couple weeks before,
and he was just driving his tail off on the
inside of the track and would just drive right by
him every lap and go on in the race, and
he finally pulled it off and it was like a
few miles thing too, wasn't I remember the guys were
like rocking back and forth or trying to pull that

(35:17):
thing out.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh jeez, I don't remember that part, but I remember
how excited we all were around these parts when when
Mark finally won that one. Well, as you know, Rockingham
went into some sort of disrepair and and it had
different rumored owners, and I think over that time somebody
actually bought it and got it back into racing shape.

(35:40):
But it was never Andy Hillenburg.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
I believe it was for a little while.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
That's right. I sat at a craps not at a
craps table, at a blackjack table in Vegas with that guy,
and I didn't know who he was until he started.
Somebody started, Hey, Andy, Andy Hillenberg, Right, Yeah, Well anyway,
I don't think he owns it anymore. But they're going
to have an Exfinity race coming up in April back

(36:06):
at Rockingham. It's really a neat track. It's the size
of the Milwaukee Mile, except it's high banked, which is
pretty cool when you think about it. And Casey Kane
has been announced that he's going to drive a Childress car,
the thirty three car come back out of retirement. Now,

(36:27):
if you look at the internet, you know, not everything
you see, believe it or not, on the internet is
always accurate. And there was a thing yesterday that I
looked at. It said Matt Kensett was coming back and
driving a junior Motorsports car at the Exfinity race in Rockingham.

(36:48):
If you see that, it is not true.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Okay, just trying to recreate the last Cup race we
had there. Wasn't that a Casey Kane versus Matt Kenseth finish?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Jeez, that's right as a little close.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Yeah, who won it?

Speaker 7 (37:04):
Matt wanted Matt Way.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
And Caine was right on his ass, wasn't.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
He two thousand and four, the year after his championship? Correct? Correct?

Speaker 8 (37:13):
He won Rockingham? Then he won Vegas the next week.
Because I was at Vegas, I got to go to
Victory Lane in that one.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Was very cool. So that that Rockingham track is really cool.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
What it is though, it's what they call in the
sand hills of North Carolina. It's a neat track, not
in a neat place. And uh, it's a I don't know,
a couple of hour drive from Charlotte. Still not unheard
of her out of the question. That's the same. Let's see,

(37:44):
there's a pretty big not really a golf guy, but
there's a golf course right there where they've had some
pretty damn big tournaments and a golf whatever they call them.
You see, it's not a real a stretch to make
you believe I'm not much of a golf guy, but anyway,

(38:04):
it's right there and that's that's really what it was
known for until Rockingham came along, and then the track
had a lot of eyes on it until they noticed
that we need to start putting tracks in places where
there's more people. And the dates are what was really

(38:25):
coveted because the racing itself at Rockingham was always good.
It's a perfect layout for a track.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
So that's a triple header weekend Friday April eighteenth and
Saturday April nineteenth. The Arkhamanard Series East will be there.
The Truck Series is running a race Friday evening like
a five o'clock green flag, and then the Infinity races
on Saturday. So I'm assuming that must be Easter then
on Sunday, be my guess it is.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Easter weekend. It's at Rockingham. Well that's pretty cool. The
weather will likely be better by then, you know, Oh yeah,
I would think. So there three months away and you know,
not that terribly far from where they're going to be
having a clash next week. So yeah, I got a
pretty good idea that the weather will be a little better.
So on Big Fun the LTN podcast is available on iHeart,

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and don't forget Racing Nuggets, pj's podcast podcast that unfortunately
wasn't that good this week.

Speaker 16 (39:31):
Oh come on, Todd Bailing was the guest. It was fabulous.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
It was huh. You're only saying that because we worked
together on radio. It was fun, it was good.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
And that is available everywhere that you would get your
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Speaker 4 (41:56):
Speed Weeks twenty twenty five is rolling on. But boy
do they have to battle some weather this week. You
see that they had They had more snow in New
Orleans and Pensacola, Florida than we've had up here in Wisconsin.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 16 (42:06):
But Toby was pouting about that.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Oh, I'm glad they can have it down there. Yeah,
that's what you call climate change. I guess snow on
the beach. But they were able to clear off. Didn't
have it down in far and that far down into Florida,
but they did have a lot of rain down there.
So they really didn't get back to racing until Thursday night.
And we'll start first out west in Costa Grande Arizona,
Central Arizona Racer where it doesn't snow the Ernie Mincy

(42:32):
Thaw Night number one for the Wassoda style late Models,
Dylan Thornton was your winner. Imc A modifieds went the
Chaz bach On stock cars went to Shelby Williams. Well Calla,
Florida got going for the UMP Modified week. That's the
modifiers used to always race at East Bay. They moved
that up to o'calla for this year and had to
condense it down to only three days. Kyle Strickler picked
up the Thursday night win. Friday Night back at Central

(42:53):
Arizona Speedway in Casa Grande for night number two, twenty
five hundred dollars win for the late models went to
Clayton Stuckey and that is Ronniey Stucky's son who makes
the Black Diamond chassis. IMCA modifieds went to Troy Morris.
The third and IMA stock cars went to Mike Albertson
Night number two it Ocali for the UMP Modifis, Jason
Garber was your winner. And in barbara Ville, Florida, at
the Lucia Speedway Park, the World of Outlaw Late Model

(43:15):
series got their season underway.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
With the Sun Signed Nationals.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
That was supposed to be a three day event condensed
down to two twelve thousand to win and Ryan Gustin
grabbed the first win of the season and got his
season off to a great start. Last night Casa Grande,
Night number three of the Ernie Mincey Early Thaw. Say
that five times fast, three thousand win for the Wasta
Late Model. Zach Johnson. For those of you that are
farmers or into farming like I am, the Minnesota millennial

(43:41):
farmer is Zach Johnson. He used to race with Soda
late models back in the like twenty ten through twenty
sixteen era. I was a multiple time champion. Got back
in a late model last year for the first time
in like six years. Last night, back in one of
Don Shaw's cars picked up the feature win. It's pretty
impressive to jump into somebody else's car and win. And
the IMSA Modified it was Tom Barry Junior who was

(44:02):
driving Mike Whittlestats car, so that car is from the
Wisconsin area. In the IMC Stock Cars, Shelby Williams picked
up win number two for the week.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
Well Calla, Florida.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
The final night of the UMP Modified Nationals there seven
thousand dollars to win. Devin Dixon from Florida grab the win.
And finally the final night at Volusia of the Sunshine
Nationals for the World of out Law Late Models twenty
thousand dollars to win. Garrett Albertson picked up his second
feature winner of the season already and his first ever
World of out Law feature win last night, great race
with him. Him and Jonathan Davenport exchanged sliders right at

(44:32):
the end. I mean, when you can beat the great
Jonathan Davenport, you've actually you've accomplished something, that's for sure.
So a huge win for Garrett Alberson. The six or
four crates were the undercard ten thousand dollars to win
for them, they had seventy one show up. Ethan Wilson,
that is Dalton Wilson's little brother driving the Longhorn Factory
car picked up the win in that and that is
everything for this week. Next week we're gonna get rolling

(44:52):
weather permitting all tech for the Lukas, a late model
dirt series that starts off on Thursday night for three
days on the Big Head Mile there and we'll see
how that goes.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
Next week.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Anything that we'll be able to watch online.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Yes, that that will be on Flow next week for
the Lucas Oilate Model Dirts series from all Tech will
be on Flow starting Thursday night.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
Okay, all right, onto the asphalt side of things. Last Sunday,
that Chili will He won fifty at Tucson Speedway. The
winner and the super lights was Jace Hanson. He's the
same Jase Hanson that finished third this past year at
the Snowball Derby.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Did you watch the we did?

Speaker 16 (45:33):
We did watch.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
The first half was okay, the second half was.

Speaker 16 (45:38):
Terrible, slobber knocker.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Well the you know, the track came apart. Yeah, and
so a car cut this Jase dude cut a tire down.
So he comes off the track to put a new
was it a left rear? He put on the car
and they waited for him to come back. He started
at the rear and then came through with a new
tire in one race after how many cautions in the

(46:03):
last how many lefts? Oh my god?

Speaker 16 (46:06):
Who it was? It was a bit of a shit show. Sorry,
I know I can't say that, but I did. Last night.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
Kevin Harvick's Kern County Raceway out in Bakersfield, California, had
some race in action going on the place too.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
Yeah, the limited Pro Late models. Joey lest had fast
time and he won that seventy five lap feature for
the super Lates. It was a one hundred and twenty
five lap feature. The winner was Dawson Sutton. Harvick was second,
Derek Thorne third, and Jase Hansen was fourth in that one.

Speaker 16 (46:39):
And so we got for this week.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
There were an arch series as a part of that,
yet weren't they?

Speaker 16 (46:44):
Oh yeah, I didn't see that part.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
You got the result. Trevor Huddleston won that. His dad,
who was the announcer, was extremely excited with that victory.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
There was some news from time Ajeski this week though, PJ.

Speaker 6 (46:57):
Yeah, he'll be running in that Clyde Hart Orial ASA
race down at New Smyrna Speedway. He's entered that one.

Speaker 7 (47:07):
I get there actually the day before.

Speaker 8 (47:09):
We'll watch that on online on streaming, and I get
there on Wednesday. I'll go to a New Smirna on
Thursday for the second super Light long race.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Huh is uh, I don't know, they're not going to
stay that long.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
Huh.

Speaker 16 (47:22):
Tie at that point has to shift gears, so it.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Makes makes sense well as far as NASCAR news, it's
slowly starting to come up. But of course, what kind
of big news would it be that that the the
higher ups at NASCAR, in their infinite wisdom, have decided
that the yellow stripe on the bumper of rookies is

(47:50):
no longer necessary, and they have decided to take off
the rookie stripes, even though that used to be a
kind of a rite of passage at the end of
the the rookies first year, that he will pull the
tape off, and it was a photo op and everybody
with their smiley faces. And I'm now a regular guy.
You know, that rookie program isn't what it used to be, Dan,

(48:13):
I think that that's probably behind this whole thing, like
for instance, and I don't and I'm not sure if
you do. But do we even know who the Rookie
of the Year was this year? Anyone? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (48:26):
I know, Hey, I know, it wasn't it?

Speaker 16 (48:28):
A house of our yes cars and.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
A deserving Rookie of the year too.

Speaker 8 (48:35):
Actually, was this a nuncle when it sponsored that? I
believe you're right, yeah, sponsor anymore?

Speaker 6 (48:43):
They might be switching gears and that's probably why they're
downplaying the whole rookie.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Thing exactly right.

Speaker 16 (48:49):
Well, Money Money.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Post of R won the Rookie of the Year, Josh
Berry was second, and Zane Smith was third and Cas
Grlo was fourth in that thing.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
So we had four rookies last year in the Cup Series.

Speaker 8 (49:00):
I kind of like the rookie stripes and I think
that's just kind of the right of passage type thing. Everybody,
I mean exactly, they can't handle having a rookie stripe
on their car. Well, how are you gonna handle anything else?

Speaker 6 (49:11):
Well, keep in mind, this is a younger generation now
that's starting to and they've grown up in a way
that they don't normally have to be singled out.

Speaker 16 (49:19):
Everybody's equal, And.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
That thing carried down into the short track side too.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
You know, we see it. We see it right out
here at Plymouth. The rookies in the sprint cars put
a big yellow ribbon on the back of their car
that flaps in the breeze, so you kind of know
you're you're you're going around a rookie. And you see
it on some of the other series too. So when
NASCAR started that many many years ago, that trickled down,
and I think it helped in the short track ranks
as well.

Speaker 16 (49:42):
I think it's helpful all the way around too.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
That way you kind of know this guy might get
a little squirrely, so just heads up, big, heads up.

Speaker 8 (49:48):
And everybody ahead. Everybody had to do it, no matter
whether you're you know.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
No matter where you were.

Speaker 7 (49:55):
Where you were how to have your rookie stripes exactly right.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
And it's a good thing, I think, and it you know,
bad to take it off. I have a kind of
a neat story how we happen to get Mark Martin
to come on the program, And I'll tell you about
that when we come back.

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(52:51):
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(53:38):
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(54:00):
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Scott Hansen was nice enough because he was going down
and helping Schrader out with his schedule that Scott's We

(54:26):
loaded it in the back of Scott's car. It was
big enough. He's got one of them explorer things, and
took it down there and took the Schraders shop in Missouri,
and Mark sent a truck up from Arkansas and picked
up the roof for his museum and he's like, oh,
that's really great. Thanks. Well, fast forward when we moved

(54:49):
to Arizona. I'd like to go to these rummage sales
because you never know what you're going to find. It's
like a treasure hunt. And there's a Mark Martin racing
jacket there and I said, boy, that thing looks kind
of I just posted the picture of the jacket that
I bought for like two dollars at a rummage sale
in Phoenix, and I had it hanging in a closet here,

(55:13):
and we're cleaning this closet out and I come across
this thing. Oh jeez, I forgot I have size small
who the boy that ship sailed when I was about
twelve years old. So I said I took a picture
of it, the same exact picture I just posted on Facebook,
and I texted it to Mark and I said, what
do you suppose I should do with this? He says, Oh,
my god, that's from nineteen seventy seven. I haven't seen

(55:36):
one in many years. Yes, I wanted for my museum.
So now, you know, since I had the dialogue going,
I thought, Hey, I'm going to be on the radio
with this.

Speaker 7 (55:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Great, you know, so it's pretty cool. I'm cleaning out
my Mark Martin collection. I can't wait to find out
what I have next. You know. That's we'll find it.
It might be in the garage, it might be in
a closet, but whatever it is, it's gonna sit. What
a more perfect place for Mark Martin's stuff than in

(56:06):
his museum?

Speaker 8 (56:07):
I mean, really, if you got right, I can't forget
what Mark said the very first time he was on
the show.

Speaker 7 (56:14):
Do we still have that?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Oh that's right, Matt, you have it.

Speaker 13 (56:22):
I guess not everything that I want to know about
Auto ray.

Speaker 10 (56:26):
Thing that I don't know.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
I just call it side know.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
There you go, he calls me up. Well, he isn't
called in a while, but uh, folks, If you have
never been to the Barrett Jackson Auction, which is concluding
today in Scottsdale, Arizona, you need to put it on
your bucket list. If you consider yourself a car lover,
I mean to tell you, it's like for me, it's

(56:52):
like you're reliving your childhood when all those great cars
came out and you'd just bug your mom and dad
to stop so you could walk in and see it
in the showroom and look at how beautiful these cars were.
And they're all there, I mean in the condition that
they were when they were sitting in the showroom when

(57:13):
you were a kid. It's really one of the most
amazing things you'll ever see in your life, and I
highly recommend it.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
It's going and the money that flies around there is.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Mind boggling, mind boggling. Is ready to get anything?

Speaker 5 (57:25):
Did you bid on anything? God?

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Yeah, yeah right, No I didn't. I didn't even have
a twelve dollars beer while I'm up to it.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
Those are the highest of the high rollers.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yeah yeah, put me on the other end. But it's
fun to see the cars anyway, and you never know,
you walk around, you run into be I saw Dominic
Jeffrey while I was walking around there. He's at this
thing every year anyway. But yeah, it's pretty cool and
you never know who you're going to see. I spend
as much time looking at the people because there are
so many people. Where do I know that guy from?

(57:55):
And he can't quite pick it out? Well, remember, you know,
like all the Brewers live out here, their car lovers,
they got money to spend there walking around in the
off season. Spring training hasn't started yet, although it's coming fast,
and so you know, you're just never sure who you're
gonna are.

Speaker 6 (58:11):
You're the luckiest guy I've ever known for bumping into people.

Speaker 7 (58:14):
It's just like you.

Speaker 16 (58:15):
You're You're the Barney Fife of bumping into people.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
You father Tony Stewart was seen on my broadcast yesterday
bidding on some stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yeah, and his what did he call him? Oh? He
had his spiritual advisor with a Did you see who
it was? No, said, oh boy, because I'm Tony's spiritual advisor.
Well that's what it's all about, right there, it is. Hey,
I hope you're enjoying the off season with us. We're

(58:44):
glad you're tuned in. Next week we'll be getting ready
to race and the Clash. Good God, we finally made
it through the off season. This is the last show
in the month of January. Things are looking up, folks,
real race cars and doors, even if they do climate
through the windows. Let's Talk Nascars. Produced and directed by

(59:06):
Dangerous Dan Margitta. Our engineer is Matt Locian. For all
of us, well, see you next week, everybody.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
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