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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Like you take off your coat, You're like, okay.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I can breathe. For me, it's more my pants. There's
nothing better feeling when you get home from a long
day than taking your fucking pants off. My shoes really, well,
you got to take your shoes off first to get
to your pants. But your points taken.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I take my shoes off.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm like, okay, Yeah, we got that toy drive coming up, right,
and I'll never forget bring some extra socks, and so
you taught me that. I'm like, that makes a hell
of a difference. And then I bring my own damn
house shoes again, you know, mister Rogers aff take them off,
come be That's right.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Toy drives coming up at the beginning of December. We'll
share more on that here. In a little bit. I
was talking with my wife and we were sharing about
how we've talked there about people that first discovered milk
and the guy having to be like, no, no, guys,
So what you do is you lay on your back
and you put the and how weird that is?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, it occurred to me that at some point somebody
created a tampon, yes, and that there was a time
like you probably had to convince people to use the
tampon because it seem it does seem like a weird process. Yeah,
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to take something a piece of cotton and shove it
in your vagina.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yes, a couple of things there. Who created it? Was
it a man? Or was it a woman?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
What do you think a man?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I don't know. I want to say a woman invented
the tampoon?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
First, how long ago do you think they created?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
That?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Was also a thing, like, is it a fairly recent thing?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay, that's fun. I'm going to say a woman created it,
and okay, because I know that they use them in
war times for wounds, I'm going to say world War
two ish World War two area in nineteen forty three.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Oh, I would have said later sixties.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So you feel like it's even very recent. Yes, it
was created by a man, but then a woman later
bought the patent or whatever, and that's how she created tampaks.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, camps.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But nineteen thirty one.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, so I was close on the covers of it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, you were, But that is kind of a fairly
recent time. So like, what did they do before?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You fucking bleed? Everywhere?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Women have been bleeding forever where There's two things about
periods that freak me out, and not in the wrong way,
just about like the body, the human body. And one
is that fifty one percent of the population is bleeding
a lot, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
As we speak.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, and not every woman's on their period every time
you see them, but there is, let's say, what thirty.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, so if you line up seven women, three of
them are bleeding immensely, right then possibly yeah, yeah, well
not even immensely, but just a little bit. Yeah, just
there's some kind of blood dripping from that area.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
As a guy, I've never thought of when I'm talking
to a woman, as is she on her period? Yeah,
I've never thought of that, nor should I, by the way,
but it's still something you don't like. We just aren't
affected by that. So I went down a rabbit hole
of what did they do before there was tampons?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's a good question to ask.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You're gonna love this gimpim. So one of the things
they used to do was use a cloth rag, which
is where the term on the rag comes from.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay, I have heard that before, Like they would take
a couple of them as a matter of fact, because
one rag just wasn't enough, so you'd have to take
like you got like a handful of rags and then
shove them on your panties and then there you go. Okay,
or you're bloomers, Ye, bloomers.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
And on top of that, I'll come back to that
and homemade pads where they would take fabric, fold it
and then pin it to their underwear. Yeah, okay, yeah,
you knew that.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Well yeah, and what else are you gonna do. It's
kind of like a homemade diaper for light cloth diapers
for babies.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Sure, but they didn't. We'll hit it now then. And
that time they used to drill holes in women's heads
when they were on their period because they thought they possessed.
So I can only imagine a woman had a little
uncomfortableness wanting to come forward and be like, yo, I'm
bleeding right right a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And then a guy was like, well, you know, listen,
we're going to take this here cotting that I just
got out the field and we're going to shove it
up in there. That'll soak it up.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Another option sheep's wool, papyrus, moss, moss or grass. In
certain parts of the world, they have used to be
the absorbent thing you need when you're on your period.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Moss, I can kind of sea grass, not so much.
Grass is not very absorbent.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
No, sea sponges, that makes total sense. Some women inserted
natural sponges that actually continued well into the twentieth century.
Oh okay, if you've ever seen a sea sponge, it
is not like a sponge.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
No, it's not your scrub daddy, for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
That's pretty close. Yeah, they are off, man. They're known
to use as an exfoliance on your skin.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And you're already sensitive. Sure that week, I mean anyway,
but that week alone.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yikes, literally and physically you're sensitive.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So they put them in the ginet are not just
on the out correct at least according to this okay,
and then this one free bleeding that in poorer and
rule settings, women simply just let blood flow into their
clothing and.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Washed it out later. And there are a lot of
people that still believe this is the way today. Matter
of fact, they sell panties that are designed to just
catch it and you wash it and reuse it.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Isn't that basically just a fucking tampon or a pad.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
No, you throw those away.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean Essentially it's doing the same thing right different
Now you're soaking up the blood in the cloth all
the underwear blood, right, So I mean it's what you
just the crotchell area, I imagine, is going to be
a little bit thicker, uh a material than I don't know,
just regular old underwear would I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I know they sell these today and they're quite common.
Let me a phrase that they're more common than they've
ever been. But I didn't know that, Like I can't
have never examined one and be like, oh, you don't say.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I think if you're going to stick to that, like, well,
free bleeding is the natural way, then you don't get
fancy fucking underwear that's got extra pad. You've got to
wear your same old fucking thongs and you gotta wear
that shit and just let it, just let it flow,
let it flow.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Keep in mind, the Great Depression was nineteen twenty nine,
so during the you got.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
All this other shit happening all right, as if life
didn't suck enough, it was not right.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, And I started thinking about like cave women did
cave so cave women to the did the husband be
like because he's a caveman, but like because because she
couldn't be out hunting like the animals were. I think
sometimes we glamorized cavemen, is that there was this like
sophisticated thing and it was probably very much more animalistic. Yeah,
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so I doubt they had like a conversation about what
they should do.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
No, you literally just bled. I would imagine it.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Had you scared the god, Like if you were grew
up and you weren't around you never saw your mom
doing that or your mom cave woman doing it. The
first time you.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Saw it, be like what, Yeah, you would probably freak
the fuck out. But then after seven days, the bleeding stops,
and then you're like, for one, you're fucking like, what
the hell you just bled for seven days and you're
still alive? I love this, Okay. And then it's like, well, okay,
we're good. Then now go down to the river and
wash that thing out.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Except accept I don't know about you. When I see
someone I care about bleeding, I want to stop the bleeding.
I'm sure you're so seven days would feel like a
continual bleeding on like an open cut on their arm
would feel like, oh no, you're not going to the doctor.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
But like because it's scave times.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I suit your that thing up.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, put molasses on it.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I don't talk right, Tree sap yeaheah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I don't even They probably didn't do that. The point
I'm making is that, like when you think about how
things started, I can't get my head around well, first
of all, how inconvenient a period is for a woman.
But on top of that, what they did before there
was a modern advancement. And when I say modern, understand,
I'm putting air quotes around that because it's still pretty
fucked up the way we handle periods anyway. But the
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idea that like we were just letting it run down
their leg, that's it, right, that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And they're also I mean probably in pain rights and Jay,
yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Like I don't know what's.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Going on with me.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a time period
where women, if if there was any documentation of journals
or things like that, where women felt like they were
being possessed because of the pain and the inconvenience and
they're bleedy, Like, how do you fucking explain that in
a time when I don't know, people lived to thirty So,
like you would we, well, fuck God's that's where you know,
(09:38):
God bless us because everything was God's fault or not.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And you very well could be true on that one
that you know, uh, they didn't know what was going on.
The women thought they were possessed, and some guys like, well,
I mean, fuck, we gotta let the demons out. Actually
be a hand cranked drill at that point.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, right, No anthes, by.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
The way, none at all. And then you know, well,
she's not thinking about her bleeding vagina anymore because now
she's got a giant hole in her head. Yeah, that
fucking hurts. And now my focus is here, not here.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So here's a theory I have that isn't backed up
with a lot of data, but that the you know,
the Salem witch trials were women on their periods.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
That very well could be because.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
They were acting crazy and they thought they were possessed,
and the witches were very overpowering, overbearing.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Right right right, shut up, right? And what's what one
way to shut them up? You fucking burn them at
the steak.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, the men get together and they're like, well, can't have.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
This bunch of angry women.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
What's got your tensionary? As women don't use tampons.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
To this day, to this day, modern tampons or any
kind of modern tampa, any kind of absorbency at all.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
When Amish girls start their period, they make pads from
folded pieces of fabric.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Okay, so yeah, they're still use in it, Okay, towels
and a rack. That makes sense if you think about it.
The homage don't exactly love modern technology at all, right, right.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So, but they're still doing something to soak up the
menstruationia that is pouring from their body instead of just
letting it run down their legs into the field or
onto the kitchen floor or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
But you know when the Amish they when they when
do they do this for only the males or females too?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
When they reach the only women get their periods?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
No, no, no, When they reach a certain age, they are
given the choice to leave the community for a little
while and then they get to come back.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I believe it's their eighth the drum springer, and it's
for anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It is, okay, yeah, it's not just women, not just dudes.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
So when they leave for that period of time, they
use modern technology. So I would assume that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I don't know, I think I would, I mean, would
lead us to believe that they No, it was before
Amish mafia. Amish mafia came out that but like, uh
that they go out and get willy nilly and fuck
like crazy and drink and do drugs and right use
fucking tampons apparently, and like yeah, right, it's crazy they
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have tampots.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
What Oh it makes it so much easier.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, maybe they do. Maybe they do. But who's going
to be that person to bring it up? You know,
I guess if you you meet some goal when you're
out on your rum springer and you're like, you're bleeding. Oh,
here's a tampon. Well what's that? Well it's a balled
up piece of cotton that you shove in your gian
er to keep from you know, spewing everywhere, or even
just a Maxi pad.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, so much simpler.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Six the rum sprung is sixteen, sixteen years old.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. You know, that's when you're
becoming an adult in the UH, in in the UH,
in the Mexican cultures. You know, you got your Kia,
same way with the Jewish people. You get to that
certain age, you got your Bart's vo and botmtz fab.
There's a difference ones for the once for the girls. Yeah,
but I don't think they're the same the Botmtzvah and
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the Barmtzvah.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And and I don't think they're the same thing.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No, No, it's basically this is where you're becoming. You're
growing and you're becoming an adult. That's so that the
under the umbrella, you're.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right, But I think the motive of the rum spring
is more of like, uh, you deciding if you want
to continue on with this and get baptized and turning
yourself over.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Do you want to continue living this Amish life? Do
you want to go via either?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, where a king Sierra is, Yes you are a
woman now or you're now a man. But that's pretty
much it. Yeah, Okay, you do some learning and maybe
some I don't know about Kincierra, but yes, definitely on
bot Mitzvah there's some learning and statements and things like that,
the ceremonial things that go along with and parties and
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presents with the Amish.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
You decide whether you're coming back and staying with the
with our community, or you're leaving and you're not ever
coming back.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I fuck have no, no ever known an Amish person
in my life. I am comfortable saying that I have
never known a single Amish person. I've known several Jews,
several Mexicans. Never wants an Amish. I want to make
it a point now, so they'll go meet somebody on the.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Length of a rum springer. Rum sprunga is anywhere from
several months to a few years, and even up to five.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Okay. What takes time to make those decisions? Man, You
got to really make sure you're in it.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And when you're sixteen, do they go because you're sixteen,
do you go live? Where do you go?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You go with the other Amish people that decided that
I ain't fucking with this. So it's like you've got
to You've got a cousin, Jebediah who lives in Nebraska,
who decided he wasn't coming back, so you just go
live with him. He'll teach you the ways and if
you like it good, okay, then come on back.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So this says that during the rum sprunga, which were
probably mutilating by the way, uh, you continue to live
with your parents and family at home.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You just get to willy nilly good wherever you want.
You're like this, I'm here feel yeah, okay, I don't
have to raise a barn today because I'm on rum Springer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Now, if you on the outside, that looks crazy, right,
But what as non Amish people, what do we do
at sixteen? We all like you've got to be home
at ten, Like we put all these guard brails around
instead of like figure.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It out right, we're anxious about getting our drivers there.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
This is the safe place to figure that out. Yeah, okay,
Like that's what they're doing, right, is like, hey, listen,
if you want to do drugs or maybe that life,
this is the place to figure that out at home parents, Yes,
where we can check on you and you have a
safe place.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That's interesting, it is. But you're right, I don't know
any I don't know any Amish people. I mean, fuck,
they're good cooks though.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, I've only experienced Amage food one time and I
did not like it. So well what you have it's
fucking jams and uh ruebarbh. Fuck. I don't know. I
was like I was, I almost say I was young.
I was like, you know, early teens and when my
because my mom did the same thing. Oh, this is
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Amish food. It's so good, you're gonna love it. And
I had someone I said, this is fucking disgusting, and
I've never had any before. Everybody very they speak highly
of it. Oh you gotta go out there to write
Chelsea and get you some fucking Amagh food and blah blah,
And I'm just like, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I love it. You're right. It's like a thing of
note riding. And people like I went to the Amige storey. Yeah,
like it's just some in inbred thing that happens that
there just can automatically make a good fucking bread, now,
rock chair exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
You fucking meet a church or a barn built within
twenty minutes, got you, man?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Now, I did have one of my houses. I did
hire this Amish crew to work on my house. But
they had a car like they had like a I
don't know how they maybe they were Pentecostal, but like, okay,
they I thought they were Amish right. They had all
the cliche markings of Amish beard. I don't think Pentecostals have.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Beards, no, no, no, but.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
They had pretty much the same outfit.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
What was there a difference between the Amish and the Mennonites.
They're like basically the same, but they're kind of different,
like I think, I mean, I may be wrong. You
can google it if you want that. The Mennonites are
more of the modern We will take your televisions and
your cars, but yet we still live the Amish ways.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
But that's not living the Amish ways.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah. Well, everybody's got a breakoff somehow. I don't want
your life.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Okay. So Amish are the more conservative, traditional offshoot of Mennonites.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Okay, so the Mennonites then.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Focusing on strict separation from the modern world. Why Mennonites
are broader, more diverse group that varies widely in how
much they adapt or adopt modern technology and integrate into
their mainstream society. Okay, the Amish most modern technology, of course,
buggy tampons that we know of now.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, so the men of Knights, you're like, listen, we'll
do your thing. We're gonna do our own thing, but
we'll take your cars and your TV and all that.
And then the Amish you're like, you know what, fuck you,
We're doing it old school right right. And if you
can't hang with the Amish ways, when you just get
in your fucking car and you go.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
This is like one of the more fascinating things about
cults for me is that anything within a cult, there's
always a splinter off that thinks they can do it better, right.
And that's what the Amish are. There a splinter off
of the Mennonites going we can do it better.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You probably can make an argument the Mennonites are a
splinter off of Christianity, You're probably right, right, or Baptis
Southern Baptists or whatever, that they all kind of splinter
off of each other because they're like, I can fucking
do it better.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I feel like I should say at this point in time,
if there are any Mennonites that are listening to this podcast,
that we do apologize. We're not trying to offend anybody.
We're just ignorant.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, listen, you can choose to be offended. That's on you.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah. I just don't need the men in night community
fucking taking us to court. Listen, guys, you're getting sued again.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I hear you, but I can't imagine in a court
of law you're gonna go, well, get me said you
heard him? You heard him? Minna nights. He said, don't
take offense so dismissed.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I apologize. I did my part.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
This is about as fucking good as the on air
copyright clean.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Right right right next thing you know, I'm passing through
Chelsea going to Rock La Hoole. Man. I've got a
fucking gaggle of buggies behind the Minnai mafia right following me. Whatever.
There's this set up a bit straight there to get them.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
The Amish are always trying to catch you, but they
just cannot get the fucking horse going, Cadanic.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
He's got one hundred and fifty horse power.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I've got one. This time, we'll get a head start.
We'll take that fucking orange thing off the back.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Can you silence those horses? Sorryah, I heard you coming on, malloy.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
We had a guy that worked here and unbeknownst to him,
he eventually found out. We gave him the nickname Jebediah
because he looked Amish when he first started jeans, button
down shirt. I mean, he fucking beard, unkept hair in
a way that looked like he hadn't been to a barber,
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and he looked like an Amish guy. So we called
him Jebediah. Then he fucked someone here the intern had
sex with somebody that worked here who was older, and
his hair started getting slipped back or T shirt. It's that.
It was like one of the best case studies of
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how a dork guy once gets laid goes shit. I
can wear more than button down shirts, right, I can
fucking comb my hair. They sell fucking hair styling products.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Wait, what a minute, This is what happens if I
put deoda in on.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Maybe he was homish and he left the community.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
No, he was homish now because when we told him,
he was like, huh, yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Just had the beard to look like it, and yeah,
I can't do that. Just the beard, no mustache. It
fucking looks weird. Yeah. When I'm shaving, like you know,
before I grew this thing out, you know, I'd play
around a little bit, you know, and just look, go
at different looks and mutton chops not for me, the
mustacheless beard not for me. But it's fun, you know, experiment.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, this is about as long as I can get
and then it starts driving me crazy. Uh yeah, man,
we hit religion twice today. Yeah, that is two d
percent more than we normally do.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Maybe it is the rapture and we don't know it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I think it like if it happened. But I try
and get home. Do I go to my kids, my
wife's and Bart like, what do I do?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You go to your kids, Well, they're forty minutes away.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, and then your wife's further out than there.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I just go home and enjoy time to yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
They'll figure it out. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Okay, all right, you guys have a great week.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
See ye bye bye.
Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Like you take off your coat, You're like, okay.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I can breathe. For me, it's more my pants. There's
nothing better feeling when you get home from a long
day than taking your fucking pants off. My shoes really, well,
you got to take your shoes off first to get
to your pants. But your points taken.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I take my shoes off.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm like, okay, Yeah, we got that toy drive coming up, right,
and I'll never forget bring some extra socks, and so
you taught me that. I'm like, that makes a hell
of a difference. And then I bring my own damn
house shoes again, you know, mister Rogers aff take them off,
come be That's right.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Toy drives coming up at the beginning of December. We'll
share more on that here. In a little bit. I
was talking with my wife and we were sharing about
how we've talked there about people that first discovered milk
and the guy having to be like, no, no, guys,
So what you do is you lay on your back
and you put the and how weird that is?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, it occurred to me that at some point somebody
created a tampon, yes, and that there was a time
like you probably had to convince people to use the
tampon because it seem it does seem like a weird process. Yeah,
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to take something a piece of cotton and shove it
in your vagina.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yes, a couple of things there. Who created it? Was
it a man? Or was it a woman?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
What do you think a man?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I don't know. I want to say a woman invented
the tampoon?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
First, how long ago do you think they created?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
That?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Was also a thing, like, is it a fairly recent thing?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay, that's fun. I'm going to say a woman created it,
and okay, because I know that they use them in
war times for wounds, I'm going to say world War
two ish World War two area in nineteen forty three.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Oh, I would have said later sixties.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
So you feel like it's even very recent. Yes, it
was created by a man, but then a woman later
bought the patent or whatever, and that's how she created tampaks.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, camps.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But nineteen thirty one.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, so I was close on the covers of it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, you were, But that is kind of a fairly
recent time. So like, what did they do before?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You fucking bleed? Everywhere?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Women have been bleeding forever where There's two things about
periods that freak me out, and not in the wrong way,
just about like the body, the human body. And one
is that fifty one percent of the population is bleeding
a lot, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
As we speak.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, and not every woman's on their period every time
you see them, but there is, let's say, what thirty.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, so if you line up seven women, three of
them are bleeding immensely, right then possibly yeah, yeah, well
not even immensely, but just a little bit. Yeah, just
there's some kind of blood dripping from that area.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
As a guy, I've never thought of when I'm talking
to a woman, as is she on her period? Yeah,
I've never thought of that, nor should I, by the way,
but it's still something you don't like. We just aren't
affected by that. So I went down a rabbit hole
of what did they do before there was tampons?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's a good question to ask.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You're gonna love this gimpim. So one of the things
they used to do was use a cloth rag, which
is where the term on the rag comes from.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay, I have heard that before, Like they would take
a couple of them as a matter of fact, because
one rag just wasn't enough, so you'd have to take
like you got like a handful of rags and then
shove them on your panties and then there you go. Okay,
or you're bloomers, Ye, bloomers.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
And on top of that, I'll come back to that
and homemade pads where they would take fabric, fold it
and then pin it to their underwear. Yeah, okay, yeah,
you knew that.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Well yeah, and what else are you gonna do. It's
kind of like a homemade diaper for light cloth diapers
for babies.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Sure, but they didn't. We'll hit it now then. And
that time they used to drill holes in women's heads
when they were on their period because they thought they possessed.
So I can only imagine a woman had a little
uncomfortableness wanting to come forward and be like, yo, I'm
bleeding right right a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And then a guy was like, well, you know, listen,
we're going to take this here cotting that I just
got out the field and we're going to shove it
up in there. That'll soak it up.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Another option sheep's wool, papyrus, moss, moss or grass. In
certain parts of the world, they have used to be
the absorbent thing you need when you're on your period.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Moss, I can kind of sea grass, not so much.
Grass is not very absorbent.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
No, sea sponges, that makes total sense. Some women inserted
natural sponges that actually continued well into the twentieth century.
Oh okay, if you've ever seen a sea sponge, it
is not like a sponge.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
No, it's not your scrub daddy, for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
That's pretty close. Yeah, they are off, man. They're known
to use as an exfoliance on your skin.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And you're already sensitive. Sure that week, I mean anyway,
but that week alone.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yikes, literally and physically you're sensitive.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So they put them in the ginet are not just
on the out correct at least according to this okay,
and then this one free bleeding that in poorer and
rule settings, women simply just let blood flow into their
clothing and.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Washed it out later. And there are a lot of
people that still believe this is the way today. Matter
of fact, they sell panties that are designed to just
catch it and you wash it and reuse it.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Isn't that basically just a fucking tampon or a pad.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
No, you throw those away.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean Essentially it's doing the same thing right different
Now you're soaking up the blood in the cloth all
the underwear blood, right, So I mean it's what you
just the crotchell area, I imagine, is going to be
a little bit thicker, uh a material than I don't know,
just regular old underwear would I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I know they sell these today and they're quite common.
Let me a phrase that they're more common than they've
ever been. But I didn't know that, Like I can't
have never examined one and be like, oh, you don't say.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I think if you're going to stick to that, like, well,
free bleeding is the natural way, then you don't get
fancy fucking underwear that's got extra pad. You've got to
wear your same old fucking thongs and you gotta wear
that shit and just let it, just let it flow,
let it flow.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Keep in mind, the Great Depression was nineteen twenty nine,
so during the you got.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
All this other shit happening all right, as if life
didn't suck enough, it was not right.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, And I started thinking about like cave women did
cave so cave women to the did the husband be
like because he's a caveman, but like because because she
couldn't be out hunting like the animals were. I think
sometimes we glamorized cavemen, is that there was this like
sophisticated thing and it was probably very much more animalistic. Yeah,
(07:41):
so I doubt they had like a conversation about what
they should do.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
No, you literally just bled. I would imagine it.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Had you scared the god, Like if you were grew
up and you weren't around you never saw your mom
doing that or your mom cave woman doing it. The
first time you.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Saw it, be like what, Yeah, you would probably freak
the fuck out. But then after seven days, the bleeding stops,
and then you're like, for one, you're fucking like, what
the hell you just bled for seven days and you're
still alive? I love this, Okay. And then it's like, well, okay,
we're good. Then now go down to the river and
wash that thing out.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Except accept I don't know about you. When I see
someone I care about bleeding, I want to stop the bleeding.
I'm sure you're so seven days would feel like a
continual bleeding on like an open cut on their arm
would feel like, oh no, you're not going to the doctor.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
But like because it's scave times.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I suit your that thing up.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, put molasses on it.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I don't talk right, Tree sap yeaheah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I don't even They probably didn't do that. The point
I'm making is that, like when you think about how
things started, I can't get my head around well, first
of all, how inconvenient a period is for a woman.
But on top of that, what they did before there
was a modern advancement. And when I say modern, understand,
I'm putting air quotes around that because it's still pretty
fucked up the way we handle periods anyway. But the
(09:04):
idea that like we were just letting it run down
their leg, that's it, right, that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And they're also I mean probably in pain rights and Jay,
yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Like I don't know what's.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Going on with me.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a time period
where women, if if there was any documentation of journals
or things like that, where women felt like they were
being possessed because of the pain and the inconvenience and
they're bleedy, Like, how do you fucking explain that in
a time when I don't know, people lived to thirty So,
like you would we, well, fuck God's that's where you know,
(09:38):
God bless us because everything was God's fault or not.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And you very well could be true on that one
that you know, uh, they didn't know what was going on.
The women thought they were possessed, and some guys like, well,
I mean, fuck, we gotta let the demons out. Actually
be a hand cranked drill at that point.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, right, No anthes, by.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
The way, none at all. And then you know, well,
she's not thinking about her bleeding vagina anymore because now
she's got a giant hole in her head. Yeah, that
fucking hurts. And now my focus is here, not here.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So here's a theory I have that isn't backed up
with a lot of data, but that the you know,
the Salem witch trials were women on their periods.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
That very well could be because.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
They were acting crazy and they thought they were possessed,
and the witches were very overpowering, overbearing.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Right right right, shut up, right? And what's what one
way to shut them up? You fucking burn them at
the steak.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, the men get together and they're like, well, can't have.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
This bunch of angry women.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
What's got your tensionary? As women don't use tampons.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
To this day, to this day, modern tampons or any
kind of modern tampa, any kind of absorbency at all.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
When Amish girls start their period, they make pads from
folded pieces of fabric.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Okay, so yeah, they're still use in it, Okay, towels
and a rack. That makes sense if you think about it.
The homage don't exactly love modern technology at all, right, right.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So, but they're still doing something to soak up the
menstruationia that is pouring from their body instead of just
letting it run down their legs into the field or
onto the kitchen floor or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
But you know when the Amish they when they when
do they do this for only the males or females too?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
When they reach the only women get their periods?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
No, no, no, When they reach a certain age, they are
given the choice to leave the community for a little
while and then they get to come back.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I believe it's their eighth the drum springer, and it's
for anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It is, okay, yeah, it's not just women, not just dudes.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
So when they leave for that period of time, they
use modern technology. So I would assume that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I don't know, I think I would, I mean, would
lead us to believe that they No, it was before
Amish mafia. Amish mafia came out that but like, uh
that they go out and get willy nilly and fuck
like crazy and drink and do drugs and right use
fucking tampons apparently, and like yeah, right, it's crazy they
(12:10):
have tampots.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
What Oh it makes it so much easier.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, maybe they do. Maybe they do. But who's going
to be that person to bring it up? You know,
I guess if you you meet some goal when you're
out on your rum springer and you're like, you're bleeding. Oh,
here's a tampon. Well what's that? Well it's a balled
up piece of cotton that you shove in your gian
er to keep from you know, spewing everywhere, or even
just a Maxi pad.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, so much simpler.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Six the rum sprung is sixteen, sixteen years old.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. You know, that's when you're
becoming an adult in the UH, in in the UH,
in the Mexican cultures. You know, you got your Kia,
same way with the Jewish people. You get to that
certain age, you got your Bart's vo and botmtz fab.
There's a difference ones for the once for the girls. Yeah,
but I don't think they're the same the Botmtzvah and
(13:03):
the Barmtzvah.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And and I don't think they're the same thing.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No, No, it's basically this is where you're becoming. You're
growing and you're becoming an adult. That's so that the
under the umbrella, you're.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right, But I think the motive of the rum spring
is more of like, uh, you deciding if you want
to continue on with this and get baptized and turning
yourself over.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Do you want to continue living this Amish life? Do
you want to go via either?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, where a king Sierra is, Yes you are a
woman now or you're now a man. But that's pretty
much it. Yeah, Okay, you do some learning and maybe
some I don't know about Kincierra, but yes, definitely on
bot Mitzvah there's some learning and statements and things like that,
the ceremonial things that go along with and parties and
(13:48):
presents with the Amish.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
You decide whether you're coming back and staying with the
with our community, or you're leaving and you're not ever
coming back.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I fuck have no, no ever known an Amish person
in my life. I am comfortable saying that I have
never known a single Amish person. I've known several Jews,
several Mexicans. Never wants an Amish. I want to make
it a point now, so they'll go meet somebody on the.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Length of a rum springer. Rum sprunga is anywhere from
several months to a few years, and even up to five.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Okay. What takes time to make those decisions? Man, You
got to really make sure you're in it.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And when you're sixteen, do they go because you're sixteen,
do you go live? Where do you go?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You go with the other Amish people that decided that
I ain't fucking with this. So it's like you've got
to You've got a cousin, Jebediah who lives in Nebraska,
who decided he wasn't coming back, so you just go
live with him. He'll teach you the ways and if
you like it good, okay, then come on back.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So this says that during the rum sprunga, which were
probably mutilating by the way, uh, you continue to live
with your parents and family at home.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You just get to willy nilly good wherever you want.
You're like this, I'm here feel yeah, okay, I don't
have to raise a barn today because I'm on rum Springer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Now, if you on the outside, that looks crazy, right,
But what as non Amish people, what do we do
at sixteen? We all like you've got to be home
at ten, Like we put all these guard brails around
instead of like figure.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It out right, we're anxious about getting our drivers there.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
This is the safe place to figure that out. Yeah, okay,
Like that's what they're doing, right, is like, hey, listen,
if you want to do drugs or maybe that life,
this is the place to figure that out at home parents, Yes,
where we can check on you and you have a
safe place.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That's interesting, it is. But you're right, I don't know
any I don't know any Amish people. I mean, fuck,
they're good cooks though.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, I've only experienced Amage food one time and I
did not like it. So well what you have it's
fucking jams and uh ruebarbh. Fuck. I don't know. I
was like I was, I almost say I was young.
I was like, you know, early teens and when my
because my mom did the same thing. Oh, this is
(16:17):
Amish food. It's so good, you're gonna love it. And
I had someone I said, this is fucking disgusting, and
I've never had any before. Everybody very they speak highly
of it. Oh you gotta go out there to write
Chelsea and get you some fucking Amagh food and blah blah,
And I'm just like, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I love it. You're right. It's like a thing of
note riding. And people like I went to the Amige storey. Yeah,
like it's just some in inbred thing that happens that
there just can automatically make a good fucking bread, now,
rock chair exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
You fucking meet a church or a barn built within
twenty minutes, got you, man?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Now, I did have one of my houses. I did
hire this Amish crew to work on my house. But
they had a car like they had like a I
don't know how they maybe they were Pentecostal, but like, okay,
they I thought they were Amish right. They had all
the cliche markings of Amish beard. I don't think Pentecostals have.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Beards, no, no, no, but.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
They had pretty much the same outfit.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
What was there a difference between the Amish and the Mennonites.
They're like basically the same, but they're kind of different,
like I think, I mean, I may be wrong. You
can google it if you want that. The Mennonites are
more of the modern We will take your televisions and
your cars, but yet we still live the Amish ways.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
But that's not living the Amish ways.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah. Well, everybody's got a breakoff somehow. I don't want
your life.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Okay. So Amish are the more conservative, traditional offshoot of Mennonites.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Okay, so the Mennonites then.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Focusing on strict separation from the modern world. Why Mennonites
are broader, more diverse group that varies widely in how
much they adapt or adopt modern technology and integrate into
their mainstream society. Okay, the Amish most modern technology, of course,
buggy tampons that we know of now.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, so the men of Knights, you're like, listen, we'll
do your thing. We're gonna do our own thing, but
we'll take your cars and your TV and all that.
And then the Amish you're like, you know what, fuck you,
We're doing it old school right right. And if you
can't hang with the Amish ways, when you just get
in your fucking car and you go.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
This is like one of the more fascinating things about
cults for me is that anything within a cult, there's
always a splinter off that thinks they can do it better, right.
And that's what the Amish are. There a splinter off
of the Mennonites going we can do it better.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You probably can make an argument the Mennonites are a
splinter off of Christianity, You're probably right, right, or Baptis
Southern Baptists or whatever, that they all kind of splinter
off of each other because they're like, I can fucking
do it better.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I feel like I should say at this point in time,
if there are any Mennonites that are listening to this podcast,
that we do apologize. We're not trying to offend anybody.
We're just ignorant.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, listen, you can choose to be offended. That's on you.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah. I just don't need the men in night community
fucking taking us to court. Listen, guys, you're getting sued again.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I hear you, but I can't imagine in a court
of law you're gonna go, well, get me said you
heard him? You heard him? Minna nights. He said, don't
take offense so dismissed.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I apologize. I did my part.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
This is about as fucking good as the on air
copyright clean.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Right right right next thing you know, I'm passing through
Chelsea going to Rock La Hoole. Man. I've got a
fucking gaggle of buggies behind the Minnai mafia right following me. Whatever.
There's this set up a bit straight there to get them.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
The Amish are always trying to catch you, but they
just cannot get the fucking horse going, Cadanic.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
He's got one hundred and fifty horse power.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I've got one. This time, we'll get a head start.
We'll take that fucking orange thing off the back.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Can you silence those horses? Sorryah, I heard you coming on, malloy.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
We had a guy that worked here and unbeknownst to him,
he eventually found out. We gave him the nickname Jebediah
because he looked Amish when he first started jeans, button
down shirt. I mean, he fucking beard, unkept hair in
a way that looked like he hadn't been to a barber,
(20:41):
and he looked like an Amish guy. So we called
him Jebediah. Then he fucked someone here the intern had
sex with somebody that worked here who was older, and
his hair started getting slipped back or T shirt. It's that.
It was like one of the best case studies of
(21:02):
how a dork guy once gets laid goes shit. I
can wear more than button down shirts, right, I can
fucking comb my hair. They sell fucking hair styling products.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Wait, what a minute, This is what happens if I
put deoda in on.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Maybe he was homish and he left the community.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
No, he was homish now because when we told him,
he was like, huh, yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Just had the beard to look like it, and yeah,
I can't do that. Just the beard, no mustache. It
fucking looks weird. Yeah. When I'm shaving, like you know,
before I grew this thing out, you know, I'd play
around a little bit, you know, and just look, go
at different looks and mutton chops not for me, the
mustacheless beard not for me. But it's fun, you know, experiment.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, this is about as long as I can get
and then it starts driving me crazy. Uh yeah, man,
we hit religion twice today. Yeah, that is two d
percent more than we normally do.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Maybe it is the rapture and we don't know it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I think it like if it happened. But I try
and get home. Do I go to my kids, my
wife's and Bart like, what do I do?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You go to your kids, Well, they're forty minutes away.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, and then your wife's further out than there.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I just go home and enjoy time to yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
They'll figure it out. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Okay, all right, you guys have a great week.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
See ye bye bye.
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