5.17: You Can't Make It Up - Hour 1

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at iHeartMedia on Sports Talk seven ninety, I know I've mentioned many times my
fascination with dreams. I don't knowwhy we have dreams, meaning like why
they happen at all. I don'tknow why we have the things occur in
our dreams that we have occur,but it fascinates me. And today,

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I think it was about seven ohsix, I woke up and realized that
my son he wanted more milk.It's a normal thing, but I'm usually
sleepwalking as I leave the bedroom togo to the kitchen and our TV.
You know this is my roots sine, I fall asleep out there on the
recliner or the couch. Usually it'son ESPN Sports Center, and I just

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don't sometimes don't even remember getting upin the middle of the night to go
to bed because I'm just you know, sleepwalking. So at about seven o
six I walk to the kitchen.TV's on and Sports Center is covering live
the PGA Championship of course at Valhalla, and right there on the you know,
not full screen, but you know, they're a little bottom graphic there

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says two things, Scotti Scheffler currentlybeing detained by law and by police,
LMPD, police, whatever it maybe. And then it says that somebody
is dead, like they've postponed everythingbecause somebody was tragically killed. Not a
lot of details, I think atthat point, at least not that I

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could see on ESPN. And Ithought to myself for a brief second,
you're not awake yet. You thinkyou've woke up, you think that you
know you're starting your day, butit's just you having a dream. And
then sure enough, I guess Icame to and realized, no, this
is real, and it just is. It's still many many hours later,
it's you can't make it up.The guy leading the PGA Championship yesterday here

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in Louisville at Valhalla, number onegolfer in the world is arrested and taken
to jail. You know, atthat time, you didn't know if it
was going to get to that point, but sure enough, like you saw
the video and everybody saw the video, and that was I mean, I'm
glad that video does exist. ButI will say this, as much as

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it's been shared millions upon millions oftimes, it still doesn't tell us what
I think you would need to knowto really, you know, make your
own assessment of of you know,what you think about the situation and like
who's in the wrong. And wemay never get all of that information.
I hope we do. But todaysucks overall for everybody involved. Just a

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tragic situation where somebody, a volunteer, lost their life. Just very very
sad, and that's I mean,that's a true tragedy and everybody traumatized.
Who was on the shuttle that hitthe I mean, and I'm sure they
knew at that point what had happened. Just a horrific situation. But thoughts

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and prayers to the person who losttheir life after being hit out right outside
the course earlier today, But thenI guess I can't say it's a surprise.
All attention shifted to the situation withScheffler, and it's crazy. I
mean, I still can't. Itstill doesn't seem like something that really happened,
but it did, and we'll talkabout it today. It is coffee

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we get our first break out ofthe way here. But I guess i'll
just start John. You and Ihaven't talked at all today about this.
When I mean were you were youup and following or did you wake up
to find what? Had you know? To transpire? A ESPN notification,
a Fox Sports notification of just saidScottie Scheffler going to jail something like that
was very you know, clickbaity,as you might think, and I click

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on it and I'm like, thisis I was awake enough to process it,
but just not realize like what thehell happened kind of thing. Yeah,
and it it's I don't think.I mean, I'm really happy that
I shouldn't say happy, but I'mspinning my wheels here because I don't want
to say something that makes it theend of the day. Somebody died and
that's really really sad and that's tragic. And obviously this arrest of Scottie Scheffler

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a felony arrest, by the way, like that's like, that's that's all
that anybody's talking about. And Ithink that's, honestly and as sadd as
it is, that's just to beexpected. But I think if I would
have been catching up, it wouldhave been I would have just thought,
okay, like what the hell isgoing on here? Which still that's a
fair question. I think a lotof people don't really know how we ended
up in that situation. But youknow, to know that he was being

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you know he was he was inthe back of a of a police car,
and then to hear that, youknow, he is going to jail,
Like I just expected there to besome level of de escalation from somebody
with authority, somebody in charge somebodyas a leader, and that obviously never
ended up happening. And then onceI'll give her credit, I mean,

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I know there were a lot ofnational folks here that are covering the PGA
Championship and a lot of local folkshere that you know, a lot of
you know, like Olivia Russell forway three, she just happened to be
the account that I this morning Ithought, was you know, putting out
fresh updates as good as anybody.And it was her tweet that I saw
that actually had the mugshot of ScottiScheffler, and like that made it real.

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I mean, I think we allknew it was real and it wasn't
a fake. But like I justexpected there to be some level of de
escalation to where cooler heads would prevailand they would maybe come to the agreement
that there was some kind of amisunderstanding and there was some kind of an
explanation as to why that transpired whatevertruly did transpire, and it never happened.

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He gets arrested, I mean,charged with assault of a police officer,
criminal mischief, reckless driving, disregardingsignals from an officer. I mean,
and for those who you know andlook, I guess I had a
plan here as far as where Iwanted to start, because again, there's
questions that we don't know the answerto that will give us a lot of

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context as to how this happened.Who's at fault, But it all comes
down to do they have a bodycam? Was that officer wearing a body
cam? Was it active? Thatwill tell everything, Right, we know
what's alleged, we know what's inthe in the police report, we know
what the the eyewitness there, whoby the way, I mean, I've

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already forgot the guy's name. I'mabout to play his segment that he did
on ESPN to kind of give himmean to my knowledgy. He's the only
person that you know, I mean, not only does he have a platform,
he's a he's a national media memberhere and again I don't know why
I can't think of his name becausehe doesn't usually cover golf. I think
he's like a football guy. Buthe ended up being there getting video of

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Scheffler being taken away in handcuffs.Tried to I guess you know Darlington.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.So you know he and there's a lot
of people who claim, well,hey, he saw everything after the fact,
because that is true. Like thevideo that he shared is after a
situation happened. That makes sense John, Like, yes, something had already
been done to where he was beingtaken away handcuffs, so that video does

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again show the reaction to something happening. But he also when he describes what
happens, he does in fact shareI mean, he didn't have his phone
out, I guess, but likehe you know, he's telling things that
he saw that we later found outwas in the police report. So he
clearly did see some things. SoI think there's a difference in what he's

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telling people when he's asked about itand he's been interviewed, I'm sure a
bunch of times. But the video, it's two separate things, right,
So people who claim, well Darlingtonhe only saw the aftermath, No,
he only videoed the aftermath. Hesaw what was going on. And here
is his description of it from SportsCenter earlier this morning. Well, Greeney,
as you could see in some ofthat footage, it was a very
chaotic situation this morning, already outsideof Valhalla Golf Club as police were responding

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to his separate incident down the road. It resulted in road closures and ultimately
was only a situation where officials andplayers could get to the point where they
could even approach the Valhalla entrance.But what happened next was certainly surreal.
There was a bus that did nothave a driver in it that was still

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sitting outside of the main gate ofValhalla Golf Club. Police were trying to
figure out how to get that busmoved. Scotti Scheffler was in a vehicle
too. Behind that bus, Schefflerattempted to drive his car on a road
that was jammed with vehicles onto theside medium plenty of space on that median

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where Scheffler could move his car aroundtoward the entrance. A police officer in
a yellow jacket like those ones you'reseeing there, approached Scheffler's car told him
to stop. Scheffler continued to drivehis vehicle, at which point the officer
attached himself to Scheffler's car. Scheffler'svehicle then drove another fifteen to twenty yards,

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making the left into Valhalla Golf Clubbefore coming to a stop. At
that point, the officer took hisflashlight and start to bang on Cheffer's car,
telling him to open the window oropen the door to get out of
the vehicle. Scheffler lowered the window. The officer then ripped the door open,

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pulled Scheffler out by the arm,pushed him up against the vehicle,
placed him in handcuffs. At thatpoint I approached Scotty Scheffler and the officers.
Scheffler turned at me and said,can you help me. The officers
then confronted me, told me tostep back. I informed them that I

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was a member of the media,at which point one officer told me there's
nothing you can do. He's goingto jail. Another officer then approached me
shortly after with a pad in hishand and said to me, could you
please tell us the name of theperson that we arrested? So I did
not seem to know that it wasScotti Scheffler, the number one golfer.

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So that I mean, I feellike the well, I don't know.
I sometimes I get myself and troublethinking that I can accurately gauge, you
know, the percentages as far aswhich side people are on. But I
do feel like a lot of peoplelocally are of the belief that this should
have been de escalated, and itdidn't need to get to where he was

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actually taken away and arrested on felonycharges. I mean again, that that's
the way I see it. Iknow plenty of people don't agree with that,
but like that seemed to be theyou know a lot of what I
saw, which is just like,man, he didn't you know, but
if you listen to what the reporterthere, when's the name began? I
keep forgetting it Darlington? Is itJeff Darlington? I think it's Jef.
Sorry, I need to put somerespect on his name because he's I mean,

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he's the He's been probably the mosttalked about person outside of Scotti Scheffler
when it comes to this situation,because he's he had the video he you
know, that was a three minutecut there and we only played about two
and a half minutes of it.But still I think those who hear him
think, like, Wow, theofficer over reacted. This didn't need to
happen. But I think if youreally just listen to the actual details of

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what went on, I don't knowif the officers, I mean, I
don't know if the officer overreacted.I mean, I don't like if if
he was told to stop and hedidn't. It comes down to did he
believe that was a police officer?Right? Did he? You know?
Did he not? I mean ScottyScheffler hasn't I mean, has he talked
yet. I don't think he's donehis pressien put a statement out. They'll

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mean hope, I don't think it'shappened yet. They'll be a press conference
and he's either going to decline totalk about anything, which he probably will.
I'm I would say that the adviceof his attorney, but I do
want to try to find that liveif we can at some point. But
either way, he doesn't seem andagain it's hard to he doesn't actually came
out and talked, and body languagedoesn't say a lot. But he hasn't
seemed very defensive, which is oddto me, Like he doesn't like he

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didn't fight them. He didn't.He didn't seem upset. He's been cooperative.
He's just has kind of been likewhatever about it from what we can
tell. And you know, I'mnot saying he should be irate, demanding
you know that the cops apologize,like he didn't pull the do you know
who I am? Right? AndNope, like I don't think anybody like
people who do have the ability tosay that, and it may help them

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or it may not. Like Icringe when I know of people doing it.
Do you know who I am?Like? My dad is this person?
Oh? Do you know who Iam? Do you know you're talking
to? I cringe because it's evenif you are somebody that is a larger
than life status in whatever it isyou do, you're a celebrity, like
you could probably more often than notimprove your situation if you do, in
fact tell somebody who you are.Now I think at times it also backfires

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on you. And what really ishilarious is the people who think that that
means something meaning like who they are. And I don't mean like they just
expect somebody to be in all butlike, dude, like you're you're not
a celebrity. I don't know whyyou think that them knowing who you are
would matter, But I do believein this instance, if in fact there
would have been some level of conversationbetween both sides after the fact, law

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enforcement and Scottie Scheffler and maybe eventhat even maybe even Darlington, if they
knew who they were, it wouldn'tmean that they fully expect, like they
fully think that they all reacted.It wouldn't be like, Okay, well,
we can't do this, because yeah, he did, in fact,
you know, drive his car witha police officer attached to it. Even
if he did attach himself to itwould have been a big deal if I

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did it. But you know,if if this number one golfer in the
world did it, then we probablyneed to to, you know, give
him a pass. It's not that, but I think if there would have
been some level of realization in theheat of the moment, some de escalation,
I think cooler heads would have prevailedand they would have thought, Okay,
this is clearly not good, butdo we need to proceed the way

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we are proceeding right now. AndI'm not telling you that they would have
for sure said no, let's letthis guy go, you know, misunderstanding,
miscommunication, whatever it may be.But I just, you know,
I choose to believe that there's agood chance that it didn't need to get
to this. But I'm also willingto acknowledge I don't know, right I

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wasn't there. I mean, noclue, and we may find out with
bodycam footage or we may not ever, because it doesn't you know, I
don't know if they you know,this guy he is a police officer,
but he was he's a traffic officer, which, by the way, I
can probably do a little looking onmy end to figure out what that is.
But this guy's LinkedIn. I mean, it lists him as LMPD officer,

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but it says just traffic, Likedoes that mean he only works traffic
situations? Like? I mean,I'm sure a quick Google search could help
me out with that. But itmay be to the point where he wouldn't
have bodycam on because he's working traffic, and I don't know, maybe that's
I don't know lmpd's protocol as faras like you have to have your body
cam on at all times unless youknow when you're out on the job,

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But if you're just doing traffic,maybe you don't need to have it on.
Right. They had the yellow theyellow rain jackets on, would that
get in the way of the bodycam? Right? So those are questions
that to my knowledge have not beenanswered just yet. But I'm really I
don't know. I have more questionsfor Scheffler than anything, because if he

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didn't know that it was a cop. I still don't know if most people
would have reacted the way he reacted, but it does change I think how
you would respond to somebody that wasdoing that and trying to stop you,
I mean, driving fifteen to twentyyards was somebody? I don't When they
say attached, do they mean likeon the hood or like hooked up to

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like the driver's side doors, likeholding onto the door while it shut like.
I have a lot of questions asto what that really means. But
that's a bit again, that's oneof the questions we don't know the answer
to just yet, and it mayjust come down to you have to believe
somebody like did he know it wasa cop? Did the cop identify themselves
whenever he when he tried to stophim from driving through? The yellowjacket doesn't

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seem to say anything about LMPD orlaw enforcement on it from when I can
gather so again, body cam wouldtell us a lot of this, but
I don't know if they if theyhave it or not. It's just it's
it's a wild, still un believablesituation. And here's the obvious reaction for
a lot of folks that aren't reallythinking about the specific details to because be

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honest with you, like maybe youdon't care, right, maybe you're not
You're not necessarily looking to take aside. You just know that this is
a bad look for Louislle because that'swhat's it's a black guy for Louisville.
Like this is. You know,I talked all week about how, in
fact I've talked for weeks now,Wow, we've had a lot of attention
on Louisville, and it seems likewe're doing really well. Right. The
derby one point fifty seemed to bephenomenal. Those here from all across the

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world seemed to enjoy it. Therace was a great finish. You know,
a lot of good momentum, goodbuzz after the Kentucky Derby, which
is a good look on Louisville.And then you have the PGA Championship.
Right there was coverage not just locallybut nationally about how many fans showed up
for the practice rounds and you know, again we talked yesterday to Kent Spencer,
who's been covering it for WHS elevensince last week, and maybe he's

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a little biased because obviously, youknow, he's a Louisville native. This
is his market, but he feltlike we couldn't have been doing a better
job as a city as far asyou know, embrace this event, making
the PGA feel as if they madethe right decision many many many years ago
to bring the PGA Championship here.So this incident can't help. But to
be honest with you, it soundslike, as we discussed yesterday, the

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PGA was there was really no wayto know if they were ever going to
be back here again. And youknow, you talk to folks who cover
golf, they didn't, but youknow, they just expected the PGA to
probably go elsewhere with the couple ofdates they have available. I guess with
venues or I guess, you know, courses they could go to that are
like, you know, fifteen yearsout or something. So that does suck

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because it turned into people bringing upthe LMPD and the entire Breonna Taylor situation
at one point because of all that. If you remember the NBA, this
is a story I forgot about.But again, something like this happening gets
people talking nationally and they remember,oh, the last time I thought about
Louisville having a big sporting event outsideof the derby was whenever there were teams

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that you know that were in theNBA, teams in certain states and cities
that did not have any plans tolighten their COVID restrictions. Meaning if the
NBA proceeded to play not in thebubble, there are some franchises that may
need to move briefly while they're likethe Raptors were going to have to move
because Canada had no plans to liftrestrictions and would never consider letting them play
basketball in Toronto. Well, Idon't even know if it was a real

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I mean, it was clearly astory. I don't know how real it
was as far as like it wasa thing. But Raptors players apparently were
all against potentially coming to Louisville ifthey had to move because of the Breonna
Taylor stuff. So it's a badlook for Kentucky, it's a bad look
for Louisville. But and I don'tthink that's debatable. But it all comes
down to, like who's it faultfor it? Right? If in fact,

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Scotty Scheffler, you know, evenif it's a misunderstanding, he could
still have done something that even afterlearning it was a misunderstanding, he knows
he should not have done. Didit require you know it to get to
that level? I don't know,and we may never know. And when
I say we may never know,what I mean is it's just gonna come
down to who you believe, right. But to be honest with you,

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I don't mean I don't think anybody'sdenied what is in the police report?
Have they? I mean I haven'tseen any I mean even Steve Romans is
the attorney for for Scheffler. Youknow, I listened to his brief Q
and A outside of the correction metrocorrections here downtown, and obviously he's not
gonna you know, he mentioned we'regonna let the case proceed. We're gonna
do you know he has he's gonnahave a court day, this and that.

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But I mean, you know,he wasn't as if they're I mean,
I think he actually described some likehere's the thing. There's a lot
of finger pointing about is the copmore it fault for overreacting and just you
know, being a you know,not de escalating and just being trying to
be a hard ass. Or isScheffler at fault for thinking he can not
listen to a cop because he's numberand golfer in the world. Like that,

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that I feel like is what alot of people are you know decided
there? Are you pro L andPD doing the right thing and making an
example out of somebody who thinks theycan get away with something because of their
status. Or is Scheffler a victimof a cop that's you know, a
tyrant or something like that. Butif you listen to everything that's out there,
rather it be the police report,the the play by play, we

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essentially just heard from Darlington and Ithink even the you know, like nobody's
denied anything. Maybe you wait tillyou have your hearing. I think he's
supposed to be in court on Tuesday, So I'm not really sure. There's
a whole lot. I mean again, what we really want to know is,
Okay, when are we gonna getbody cam footage? Because that'll at
least give us a better you know, that'll show us exactly what happened.
Also, did he know it wasa cop? He hasn't denied that he

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that he didn't you know, wedon't know. And you know he went
straight from L ANDPD corrections to Valhallato play golf. So like there hasn't
probably been a whole lot of timefor him to give any answers, in
probably because of his attorney. Hewon't answer any questions. And if my
attorney told me that, I woulddo the same thing. Before we get
to a break, I want tosay this because this is just this is
the ultimate event, or this isthe ultimate situation. That just is just

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to you know, you can findthis reminder any time you try hard enough
to look for it. We areso divided as a country that without knowing
facts, without knowing important details thatcould give you a better ability to decide
on your own individually, with yourmind, what you think of the situation,
who you might feel is more atfault, or maybe you feel like,

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hey, this was truly just amisunderstanding from both sides, and you
know it's unfortunate. But because weare programmed at times here in twenty twenty
four and for many years now tojust automatically say, no, matter what
happens, I'm going to support thepolice and assume that they did nothing wrong
because that's my party, that's theway I lean, that's my side of

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the aisle. And then there's othersthat again, not getting all the information
facts. They just assumed that thisLMPD officer is a bad cop that wanted
to abuse as authority. People havealready decided which one it is, without
any conflicting details of the event andwithout any full proof of who knew what
was really going on. And thatsucks, but that's I'm not surprised.

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That's how it's been for many manyyears now in this country. Right,
you didn't know anything for sure,But because law enforcement's involved and there's some
criticism their way, there's some thatjust say, well, hey, this
guy think he can get away withthat because he's a golfer. I mean
maybe, but you don't know that, right, And then there's others that
just assume a LMPD these guys gotthe badge. They think they're badasses,

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like without knowing. There's people whoprobably didn't even hear that account from Darlington.
They didn't see the video he posted, they didn't know. They just
saw that this guy trying to enterthe course was arrested and they just assumed
that it's bad cop, a poorpolice job, or poor I guess poor
job by the police. So Ijust that's I shouldn't say. It fascinates

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me because it sucks. But likea lot of folks in this country,
in society, have lost the abilityto think for themselves. They just default
to whatever they whatever they feel iswhat the the you know, those that
share the same beliefs that they haveare going to align with. So one
thing I don't know if I've mentioned, because I've just been rambling here,

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this is another key factor that wouldexplain why he at least tried to bypass
this this you know, this officerthat he may not have known as an
officer. Other golfers in similar vehicles, I guess, were successfully able to
do exactly what Scottie Scheffler was tryingto do. That's according to everybody involved.

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So does that mean again, evenif they even if you were able
to do it, I'm sorry theywere able to do it. And then
you were stopped and you knew itwas a police officer and he stopped you,
and you still just try to keepdriving, like you know what,
you can't do that. I mean, I don't know if you tried to
hurt anybody, but like that's justsomething nobody you do. All right,

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All right, So a couple ofthings to add here that, uh,
you know, I'm sure by nowpeople have realized this, just because
I feel like since this happened earlythis morning, it's really been all anybody's
been kind of talking about here locally. I'm sure that's not the case,
but it just seems that way,certainly when it comes to the news wire

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nationally and locally. It's a bigit's a big conversation. Colin Cowhard actually
talked about it earlier. I mean, everybody's talking about it, but he
I think he led his show discussingit, and he brought up something that
was definitely what Colin Cowherd typically doesis he will throw out an opinion and
that's why he you know, maybehe's not your cup of tea, but
he'll throw out an opinion that youwouldn't have thought of, and it may

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sound initially like what he talking aboutit, and then you'll you'll hear a
monologue and you'll at least be thinkingof what his thoughts are. Right.
You may not agree with it,but he'll get you thinking. That's what
Colin's great. But he mentioned thatLouisville shouldn't be to blame here, that
the PGA should be taking some accountabilityhere because there should be better security for

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someone like Scotty, like to wherehe you know, he's not driving himself,
there's somebody else and like they canlet you know he shouldn't have been
in that situation. It doesn't excuselike if he did, in fact knowingly,
you know, try to drive witha cop attached to his car,
even if the cop was overreacting,like, you still can't do that.
But you know, I think hisexact quote was, and I'll see if

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I can track down the clip.They usually clip a lot of his show
on social pretty quickly, and Idon't know if this this specific talking would
have made the cut to make itto social media, but here's the quote
that was shared at least on Twitterwithout the sound. Don't blame Louisville,
Blame the PGA. There's better securityfor an NFL broadcast team than the number
one golfer in the world. Idon't know if that's just golf being clearly

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different than every sport in variety ofways, and that's one of the things
that golfers just, you know,it's just it's different. You know,
as much as Scottie Schiffler is thenumber one golfer in the world, if
he was walking around in Louisville thisweek be spotted by many people because you
know, he's number one golfer inthe world, and they are probably people
that are just here because of theevent. But you know, it's not
like, you know, the numberone basketball player in the world. I'm

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not saying that this is the caseright now, but like Lebron, like
clearly he would have a different levelof you know, security, that kind
of stuff. So yeah, Imean, I'm sure the PGA won't take
a whole lot of accountability here,and I'm just going to assume that they
probably are less than pleased with howthe morning went. And I'd shocked if

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they're going to put much blame onon, you know, on their guy.
So a couple of things to clearup, because we did have some
people in the text line mentioning thisearlier that the officers were clearly trying to
make a point and be aggressive bythrowing him in the jumpsuit. I don't
know why that became such a thing. Like I saw people who I know

(29:21):
that work in in you know,this market as a media member that you
know, made claims that they usedto track the police wire often and that
you know, they were always checkingmuck shots to see if somebody of note
got arrest or if there's a crimewith details that might be worthy of making
the news. And they, youknow, they indicated that they usually didn't
see anybody in a like in ain a jumpsuit or something like that.

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And if you go look at likethe actual like you know, the government
database where it shows people being bookedin and it shows their mugshots, everybody
that was arrested before him, andeverybody that was arrested after him. There
were a few people this morning thatcame in I guess after him and were
processed later. They all got mugshotsand they were all wearing a yellow or
orange jumpsuit, so they didn't throwthe orange on him to make a point

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like, hey, you criminal,you think you can get away with it
because you're a golfer. That appearsto be standard protocol. Also, this
is something that's a little mean,like, you know, his charge is
you know, not been dropped,and it you know, if it is
dropped, it won't be until Isuppose they get to you know, I
don't know. I guess a judgecan step in and do something. But

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he was charged with a felony.And again we're talking about, you know,
assault on a police officer. Sonobody else like he's already, he
already has actually received preferential treatment.Nobody else that gets arrested and booked for
charge with assault of a police officera felony is getting out within minutes of

(30:52):
being booked. Nobody he was.Now some are trying to weaponize that againstlaw
enforcement, the cops, and sayingthat's them admitting they messed up. They
realize now they arrested this larger thanlife celebrity. They should have de escalated.
They and they may think they screwedup, but him getting out has
nothing to do with LMPD. Ajudge decides that situation. Law enforcement cops

(31:15):
don't decide if he can get inand get out. I mean, I'm
not a lawyer, but I've watchedenough law in order to be dangerous here.
I mean, in all seriousness,that was a poor joke anyway,
wasn't funny, But like, that'spretty that's pretty obvious, isn't it.
Like the officer who arrests you doesn'tdecide you know your bail or anything like
that. It's usually a judge,I would assume. So, yeah,

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he clearly did get some preferential treatment, But I don't think it means that
LMPD is going to review things andsay they messed up. I'm fine with
saying, like, here's what I'llsay. I choose to believe that this
thing could have been de escalated towhere it didn't turn into this. But

(31:59):
I'm also will to say there aresome important details that I think will at
least give some more context too forme to kind of feel like who I
think is more in the right orin the wrong. And nationally, and
I don't mean just like people aroundtown that are bummed that this is a

(32:20):
bad look on the city and thatthis could keep other big events from coming
here. I'm talking nationally. It'sall everybody just blaming l and PD and
they're just of the of the beliefthat the that that you know, that
LMPD did, you know, clearlyjust overreacted and they and they may have,

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but I'm you know, and Iam a little biased. I am
you know. I know Craig Greenberg, I was I've worked for him before
he ever became mayor, and Ilove Craig. And everybody that claims,
you know, he should have beeninvolved. I mean, do you want
to get involved on something like thatwhen you when you don't have all the
facts and things haven't come out yet, and then you're gonna stay Like imagine

(33:04):
if Scotty Scheffler said like horrific thingsand like was the ultimate a hole and
disrespected law enforcement and threatened him orsomething like that. I don't believe he
did, but I'm just saying,if he did that, and the mayor
of this city just happens to getwin that LNPD is trying to arrest him,
and he just tells them to stop. And then later it's clear that
he deserved to be arrested, Like, you can't do that. You know,

(33:27):
he wasn't there either, and youknow it's the mayor. You're gonna
even if you have to, evenif after the fact you realize that you
know, law enforcement these guys whoyou know, technically, I guess you
employ, right. I mean,if they did something wrong, then down
the line you can address it andtake action and right those wrongs and do
whatever you gotta do. But beforeyou know that, it's just I mean,

(33:51):
I think it would have been areally really bad look. And this
is what's crazy to me. Ithink it would have been a really really
bad look for the allegations to bewhat they are and him to just get
a pass. But yeah, Ifeel like nationally, and you know,
maybe even the majority here locally,that's what everybody wanted to have happened,
just because it just you know,and again, I know I did mention
it before we went to our firstbreak, and I probably waited too long

(34:14):
to mention it. But a bigfactor here is that others were doing the
same thing Scottie Scheffler tried to do. Why he was stopped. That's something
that only the officer, who youknow, claimed to be injured was could
answer. And what do you thinkJohn about this? Just this specific component
and we'll get to the phone linesin just a second. If he knowing

(34:39):
or not knowing if it's a copis really important, would you agree with
that? Yes? But even ifit's not, why would you do that?
That's what I can't understand. Whywould he continue to Yeah, move
forward? Yes, no matter whoit is, like just either like stop
the car and call the cops yourself, you know what I'm saying, Like,
no matter who it is, ifthey're attached to your even if they're
in the wrong and they jump onyour car because they're trying to attack you,

(35:00):
you know, if you're trying todefend yourself, then maybe you would
drive to try to get him offyour car. Maybe he was scared.
I don't know for us. I'mbeing dead serious, That's probably what I
would have done if I didn't knowit was an officer. I don't want
somebody trying because if you but it'snot a stranger, it's somebody working in
some capacity like there's no bad Yeah, that's that's true, Because that's true.
He didn't think it was some randolike celebrity stalker that was trying to

(35:21):
like, you know, ambush him. It was clearly somebody that was working
and so like to me, andagain I can't read his mind. I
don't know he knew it was eithera cop or he knew it was somebody
working traffic in that situation. Toto you know, it wasn't like,
what's this person doing here? Clearlythey're they're they're conducting traffic. Now do
you know, should they have stoppedyou? Doesn't sound like it because again
others were apparently allowed to do whathe tried to do and he wasn't,

(35:44):
and it turned into this but Ijust driving, you know, again,
this is this, This is theaccount that Darlington gave. Driving fifteen to
twenty yards with anybody attached to yourvehicle, to me, just doesn't make
any sense unless you think they weretrying to harm you. But I just
have a hard time thing thinking thathe would believe he was going to be
harmed whenever it was quite clear lawenforcement or not, it was somebody there

(36:05):
trying to conduct trying to guide traffic. And another component here that is rather
obvious is that it was a veryhighly stressful, highly intense situation regardless of
Scheffler's involvement, because somebody had justdied. There was something, I mean,
somebody was killed in an accident.So does that mean that you know,
they should overreact. No, butlike that's also something that shouldn't be

(36:27):
ignored that whoever's out there working inthat, you know, especially if it's
law enforcement, like they've got somebodydead, and I mean, yes,
there is an investigation. I thinkit was quite clear that it was a
tragic accident where one of the buseshad hit somebody in the road. But
it's still an investigation where you needeverybody to do whatever you're saying because it's
that serious. Now, maybe hedidn't know, like Scheffler didn't know that

(36:50):
had happened. It sounds like that'swhat its attorney was saying, I believe,
and maybe the others that were ableto do that like got in before
the accident happened. So again,as I said, to start to show
there are some things that like wemay never know the full truth, right,
it may just come down to thisguy's word or that guy's word.
Bodycam footage would absolutely tell us alot more about the situation and give us

(37:13):
context to where I think it could. It could help us, you know,
I guess, And again doesn't matter, right, Like, obviously it's
gonna he'll probably I don't know ifhe's gonna have any charges drop, but
I doubt he's gonna be. He'snot gonna be in like major trouble.
But either way, Like, althoughthere's things we don't know, and I
think there's some you know, again, I would love to see bodycam footage
just to see exactly how it turnedinto that so quickly whenever you know,

(37:34):
just this is a guy who whois as clean as a whistle according to
those that cover golf. Doesn't meanyou should get away with doing anything,
but like it just is so uncharacteristic. So but but I say all that
to say what we do know.Details in the police report, the details
that are coming from Jeff Darlington,and the brief you know, statement that

(37:57):
we've got from his attorney. Nobodywho's talking about the event. He's sharing
wildly different stories. Now maybe wemaybe they will in court and we get
there, but I think we kindof know what happened, to be honest,
But again it comes down to didhe know it was law enforcement and
did the cop instead of just havinga conversation, just try to, you

(38:20):
know, break his windows. Sothen he took off Like those are details
that matter. But again there's nobody can footage. This is gonna come
down to who you believe. Allright, let's go to the phone line.
Five two, five nine hundred isthe number. Let's welcome in,
Nino. Nino. How are you, sir, hey man, thanks for
thanking my call. Yeah, I'veseen it this morning and my cousin called

(38:42):
me. He said, he saidthe same thing you said. I've never
met anybody get at within minute.It's Friday. If it was me and
you to get arrested, we probablyain't getting that some Monday May, oh
for sure, especially on that kindof change. Yeah, So I said
if I said, well, Idon't have a problem with him getting that
in minutes, because well, firstof all, he's the number one golfer

(39:06):
in the world. I know itsounds like special privilege, but you got
the right type of attorney. You'rea celebrity, Yeah, and there's certain
you know, precautions and things youhave to take when dealing with a high
profile I don't want to call hima prisoner, you know, but a
high profile person coming into the correctionalfacility, I think special measurements and special

(39:30):
things would have to happen, justlike like when President Trump had to go
to court, you got to dospecial stuff. I mean, I can't
treat him like me and you.I mean, it is what it is.
It sucks exactly this man is gettingready to play. I'm sure his

(39:51):
attorney argued, hey, for aliving, he plays golf for a living,
and he's in town for one ofthe biggest and I think there's enough
out there about him him to it. Just to be clear, like,
I don't I'm not saying that heshould not have been released. I'm just
stating the fact that that, youknow, like anybody who thinks that that
means that the cops feel like theymade they made a mistake. I just
don't think you could come to thatconclusion, because again, I don't think

(40:12):
it's the cops that were involved thatlet that happen. And clearly he's not
a threat to society. He's nota I mean, he's so trust me,
I don't I don't want to makeanybody think that I'm saying, well,
uh, they should have kept himin there. No, but I
don't think it should have ever gotthere. But again, I'm willing to
acknowledge that there's some details that thatwill have to wait and see, you
know, some specifics to really know. Yeah, hanging on the car thing,

(40:32):
I'm like, boy, what kindof movie scene was that? I
wish I could have seen that,man. Yeah, and I'm glad nobody
was urt. No, yeah,thank you. I appreciate the call,
Neino. And look when it comesto like, I just don't know how
it got there. Like it's justfor it to escalate that much. I
mean, it is law enforcements,you know. I mean their main job
is to protect and serve, right, But like the escalation is something that

(40:53):
cops should exercise, you know.You know, That's what I believe.
And was there any attempt to that? Was there even no thought to do
that because of the seriousness of theaccident that had someone killed, Like,
you know, I just really wantbody cam footage, and I feel like
if they had it, we wouldn'thave it in front of us right now.

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But I feel like we kind ofknow if it was like, if
it was coming. Somebody did makea good point earlier that the day after
the tragic mass shooting that took placeat the old National Bank, the day
after every we all saw the bodycam footage, so like, if it
was on, it wouldn't be crazytough to get to it. I don't
know. It could be that it'sjust their protocol that in those situations when
a cop is working traffic, it'snot required to be on. And clearly

(41:37):
there's been many times where it wassupposed to be on and humm, looks
like I didn't have it on.It looks like it wasn't working. All
right, quick break, we'll comeback on the other side right here on
Sports Talk seven night. If you'reon hole, we'll get to you on
the other side. We have avery little time left here in the three
o'clock hour clock. Management not alwaysmy strong suit, certainly not today,
but for those that have been holding, you can stick with us and we

(41:59):
will get to the person here thathas been holding the longest, and that
is Chris, who wants to sharehis thoughts on which you would expect somebody
would be wanting to share thoughts ontoday. The situation this morning was Scotti
Scheffler, the number one golfer inthe world, on his way to uh
Day two of the PGA Championship atValhalla, arrested taking a jail on some
you know, multiple charges, includingone felony. It just again, saying
it out loud does not seem inany way real, but it really did

(42:22):
happen. All right, let's goto Chris. Chris, you're on Sports
Talk seven ninety. How are youhey, I'm going good man, How
you guys do it? Not toobad? First of all, you know,
let's keep this gentleman's family that waskilled this morning in or you know,
our prayers. Sure absolutely, busdriver most certainly he's traumatized. Now

(42:44):
my points, I got a coupleof points here. A lot of this
is on the PGA and Louisville itself. Why if we had to have workers
there early hours in the morning,that stretch of the road really dark speed
livers what forty five? Yeah,and it sounds like turning left onto like

(43:05):
into traffic is just like a nightmarescenario. That's, you know, before
everything happened today that people have beencomplaining about when it comes to Valhalla and
how this thing is, you know, organized, I guess as far as
just getting people into the event,right, So I mean, you know
you were thought about it probably gonnahappen tomorrow. They'll probably be security after
tomorrow. Directed traffic at four o'clockin the morning. Now, this incident

(43:30):
happened what around five I don't knowthe exact time, something like that,
very early in the morning for sure. Yeah, well I got on the
five am news. Whole stretch ofchevy By Road was closed down. But
so let's get to the Scotti gettingarrested. Now, he got in and

(43:52):
out in about an hour and hewas released with a no R. How
does that even happen? Loubal lawyeralready be there. Yeah, in got
god, Chris, I appreciate thecall. We got to get to a
break here. But I will sayreally quickly, I would say that,

(44:13):
you know, the one of theowners of the of the course, one
of the owners of Valhalla was waswith Scheffler when he left in the suv,
meaning left Corrections to come back toValhalla. I would imagine that somebody,
maybe the gentleman who was one ofthe owners of the course, reached
out to Steve Romans who is hisattorney, and they were able to make
some calls to make it to where, yes, he is going to get

(44:34):
he's been charged, he's going tobe processed. He's going to jail,
but he can get out. Really, he can get out, you know,
quickly. He was released on hisown recognant, So you know,
it wasn't as if, you know, they didn't see him as a threat,
but they did feel that he neededto actually come down and be processed
because of the seriousness of the charges. So yeah, I don't know what
was done to make it to wherehe could get in and out that quickly,

(44:54):
but most people would not be outat all. They'd still be sitting
in jail because of how serious itwas. So uh, you know,
it's it's it's not ideal, butit's it's it's it's life. It's not
something that you should like maybe behappy about or maybe maybe you don't care,
but like certain people get different treatmentthan others. That's that's life.
I don't see that ever changing,to be honest with you. All right,

(45:16):
quick break, We've got some soundfrom the from the press conference that
I guess was that happened here nottoo long ago. That we'll share with
you and I'll let you guys continueto react. I'm sorry we had to
cut you silk short there, Chris. We're up against it, but we
got two more hours left to stickwith us right here on Sports Talk seven ninety