5.5: Post Derby Monday - Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Day, Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we
think when we.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Are get off our show, idiot.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
The kids are crying or.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Turn them off. The countries are screwing it up. Gold
Play inter Murals, Brother, gold Play Intermurals. They're supposed to
be mature adults, but they're really not. Who's the kid here?
Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Now?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Here's nick coffee?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
All right, let's get it started. Welcome in the Monday
after Derby Week. I say Derby Week because I feel
like it's not just Saturday's Kentucky Derby that people are
maybe still recovering from. It's everything that comes with Derby Week.
It's a big week, and it was a great week.

(01:04):
Mother nature did not cooperate with us really on Saturday,
but being there for a good stretch of really nearly
the entire day, it didn't seem as if anybody cared,
and that I think became infectious to where you know,
what are you gonna do? It's the Derby. You probably
spent a lot of money. It's not an event you
plan to go to based off of weather. I mean,

(01:25):
I feel like, if you're gonna make the trip, make
the arrangements, you know, you just accept whatever mother nature
decides to do. And again she wasn't great, but it
didn't seem to matter to those that were there, and
it was a good Derby. Sovereignty is your winner. A
name that did get talked about and was always, from
what I can tell view to be a real contender

(01:48):
in the one hundred and fifty first running of the
Kentucky Derby, but it just never seemed to generate quite
the buzz that a Sandman or a journalism got. But
no doubt it was sovereignty. And I don't know what
it is. I feel like every time I say it,
I'm saying it wrong. You know, sometimes just saying it
with confidence may it may distract people from the fact
that you might have ever so slightly mispronounced it. But

(02:10):
let's say together, Austin sovereignty, sovereignty, sovereignty. Y think we're on
the same page there, Yes, so like a sovereignation. Congrats
to sovereignty. Course, there you go. It is Coffee and
Company and we are field By Thornton's here on Sports
Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us. Yesterday
was a day to recover, but I'm sure there's many
that needed more than just you know, one day. I

(02:31):
was very glad to see that we got the email
either last night or this morning from our boss Gus,
who is not here today. He's taken the day off,
which of course is good. He needs a month off.
I mean, we wouldn't survive without him, at least not
for that long. At least I don't think we would.
But glad to see he's enjoying himself and good. This
was probably the most that I've been a part of
of our coverage because I did my typical interviews with

(02:53):
just different fans and spectators there, and then I did
about an hour and a half of kind of anchoring
our coverage, which was which was a cool experience and
a lot of fun. But you were there, and I
know you've worked Derby more than one year, but you
were you know, you were a big part of our
of our coverage. Yeah, for sure, Yeah, I could sense that,
you know, I don't know just it. I don't know why,

(03:15):
but it felt like it was probably more just because
I was more around and therefore I'm noticing things that
I typically didn't notice. But you know, it's a collective
effort from everybody involved, and you know, I enjoyed more
than I have in a long time, actually, you know,
talking to people and some of them never even made
the airwaves. As far as these interviews that we did,
we had a good group out there talking to different

(03:36):
folks to where by the time we were still many
hours from the actual Derby race, we got the notification
that hey, we're full. Basically, there's enough interviews here to
play throughout the our coverage. So you guys are good,
sit back and enjoy yourself. And uh, oh yeah, that's
what we did. But you know, of the people I
talked to, I don't even know if this one ended
up in the entirety of our coverage, but you know,

(03:57):
there was a guy who who has gone had been
to forty or forty seven, I think Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yes, I heard that it was on the montage.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
That's right, Okay, yeah, that's right. That's where I knew
there was some I knew I'd heard reference of that
at some point. I listened to that early this morning
when I got up and I was thinking, Okay, when
would I have heard it. I wouldn't have heard it live,
but that's when I heard it. Sty sand Mine made
the montage. Yeah, So, which, by the way, we do
we do every year we have a montage about fifteen
minutes of just our day right here, well not right here,
but you know, across the hall within our family here

(04:25):
at ihare on news Radio eight forty WHS and Jim
Bin will put together a nice little fifteen sixteen minute,
you know, montage of everything and we'll let you guys
hear that a few times throughout the show today, probably
going to plan for it towards the end of this hour. Yeah,
but it's it's just kind of a good quick I mean,
it's not super quick, especially considering the type of audio
we typically play on the show. However, I mean it

(04:47):
has everything that really it basically packs in our derby
day start to finish our coverage and of course the
race itself into about a fifteen minute clip. So we
can relive that and look forward to doing that. But
I know what we talked about last week. But back
to the guy that I interviewed that was included in
the montage, I mean he came to u of L
as a student many many years ago, and that's when

(05:08):
he came to his first derby, and he's basically been
to about everyone since then.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
And I mean, if.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
That it didn't live here either, by way, he lives
in Pittsburgh, but again he I guess got familiar with
Churchill Downs and horse racing whenever he was a student
at u of L, long before U of L is
even close to kind of you know what it is now,
And it just it was another reminder that it's kind
of cool that, like, this is such a special event
to so many people across the world, and it's right
here in our hometown. And it's not like I've never

(05:34):
knew this before. But I don't know, maybe it's just
me getting more older and mature and wise and realizing, hey,
this is a pretty cool thing that we have this yere,
all eyes are on us for longer than two minutes,
but of course it's a two minute race, which really
I think that's telling. It's such a big sporting event
and it's such a big deal, so much attention surrounding it. People,
you know, some of the most successful, influential people in

(05:56):
the world want to be a part of it at
some point because it's just you know, the pageantry, everything
that comes with it, But it's just a two minute thing,
you know what I mean. Like if you come to
the derby, it's longer than two minutes, and you have
the whole day, but like the real big spotlight is
for that two minutes, and not many cities can say
they have that, you know what I mean? Like a
have an event where really everything seems to kind of stop.

(06:18):
Maybe I am exaggerating it slightly, but you know, it
kind of seems that way. And then you see the
amount of people who in fact do watch it who
aren't there. It kind of makes me feel even more
as if you know, damn, this thing is even bigger
and more special than I thought. Of all the people
you talked to, is there one that stood out more
than the others.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
I got to talk to a guy and his love
I'm assuming that was his wife in the Paddock area,
and he was a he was how do you say?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
He was an auctioneer?

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Okay, he was like the guy he got twenty overhaf
video here and he got to do one of his
little he got the going character for a minute, and
they were from bowling green and he said the last couple,
he said, the last time we came was one rich
strike one and it was they like eighty to one.
So he said, I'm going all out on the on
the longest shot, and finally actually got to mingle my
way over to the infield. I've never into the infield before, really,

(07:09):
and it's a long walk ye from the grand stand.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
That tunnel is no joke.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
So let me ask you this, the infield from where
we were to get there, is it? I mean, I
know the tunnel, but like it it. I think I
walked past it thinking, Okay, I'm pretty sure that's how
you used to get to the infield, But there's no
way that can be how you get there now because
they kind of have it roped off as if it's
like super special exclusive access.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yes, but if you can easily like get turned around
thinking that that's not it.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Well, I guess they do try to separate it as
best they can because there's part of the infield. I
guess a lot of the infield that's not the all inclusive,
so they do try to keep it pretty, you know,
pretty clearly divided. But yeah, I hadn't been back to
the infield in a couple of years now, I'm dying
to know was it.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I mean, it was energetic out there.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
I got there, I did everything out there early before
it got too so I didn't see any what do
you call in the porter potty surfy. I didn't see
it was I thought it was just gonna be this
giant mud heap.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
So I'm curious if that stuff still takes place like
the because it uses still. I saw some video like
okay this past year. That makes me happy though, because
you know, the debauchery and just the you know, the
overall you know, rowdiness that the infield it was. You know,
I'm sure there are stories that a lot of you
have heard or maybe you're a part of these stories

(08:24):
that people share over the years, that you know, really
describe it as like something unbelievable. I've never even got
to experience that, because that was like long before, you know,
we're talking like probably in the nineties and even before that.
But even like in the last ten years or so,
the infield it got a little bit more classy I
think than it used to be. And you know, it

(08:44):
used to I think it just used to be considered Okay,
we don't care about the snobby stuff. We're here. We
want to bet on the ponies, and we're gonna get drunk,
and if it rains, we might just get sloppy and
you know, do belly flops into the mud, because that's
just we. There was a level of not really giving
a day am in the infield that I'm not really
sure if it's there anymore, but I mean, at least

(09:05):
you got to experience it. My man, I'm happy that
you got to see it. I mean, I'll tell you
the uh, the the overall theme for me, uh, just
as far as a takeaway, and it was because of
one of the one of the guys I talked to
early on. I mean, he didn't seem like the most
engaging uh individual, and you really never know until you
know you talk to somebody. But you know, he had

(09:27):
on a suit that had, like, I mean, his entire
outfit from top to bottom, hat to shoes to belt
to everything. Austin it had I feel like, every single
color in the rainbow, but they all he made it
work like. It wasn't clashing, it was. It was quite
the flex and he looked phenomenal and he knew it too,

(09:47):
So I was like, hey, sir, you know you mind
if if I get a quick little energy for you
for a radio coverage of today's derby. He was like sure.
So you know, I started with the hey, where you're from?
And he's he was from somewhere North Carolina, but I
think he said he's lived in Louisville here and there
throughout his life. And I said, well, you know what
what it is? What when he told me he'd been
to the Derby a bunch of times, I said, what

(10:08):
is it about the Derby that keeps you coming back
that you just that you you know, you love? And
he said the fashion? Uh, And you know, and I'm
not someone that considers myself fashionable really at all. And
this is something that that I never really thought about,
but because of how dressed up a lot of people are,

(10:28):
especially in certain sections, and just how you know, how
beautiful everybody is. I mean, you could attest to this
right like you know, they cover our face and what
we do we work in radio like these are beautiful
human beings that probably are dressed as nice and look
as good as they do at any point in the year,
because you know, it's the Kentucky Derby so because of that,
like famous people blend in like you won't you might

(10:50):
like everybody looks famous. Seriously, I mean I'm kidding, I'm
not kidding. Like you see certain people and you're like,
I don't recognize that person. But man, if you told
me they were a supermodel or a famous actor or
you know, somebody that's you know, very very successful, and
you know and because of that they have fame, I
would believe you, because it's just like it's overloads. So

(11:11):
him saying that made it seem like, you know, it
made me kind of realize, you know what, like I
bet there are a lot of people here that really
have way they actually may be more fashionable than I
would know, because what would I know. So since from
that conversation earlier in the day I ended up having,
you know, I just felt like I made a little
more awareness of just like how it may just be
like that may be one of the bigger factors in

(11:33):
why certain people go is because they want to they
want to join in on everybody being you know, dressed
to impress, which you know, they certainly certainly were a
lot of people. I mean it it's a real rare
thing to see somebody not extremely dressed up. I don't
just mean like they got on a jacket and some slacks.
I mean like they've got a lot of attention to
detail in their wardrobe. And again it made me realize

(11:55):
that I know nothing about that and probably never will.
I mean, I felt pretty good about the fit that
the wife threw together for me on Derby Day, and
then I show up and I'm like, yeah, you know,
I'm probably I'm not standing out like a bum, but man,
I can't compete with some of the some of the
style and some of the fashion that's going on out
there too. When did you change? Because when I showed up,
you did not have your phenomenal suit on. Yes, and

(12:16):
I was thinking, Okay, why did Austin wear this? Maybe
it's just because you know he's going to be out
in the battlefield getting wet. But no, the next time
I saw you look like a million bucks.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Well, I think is after I got all my interviews done,
I just felt like, let me just go aheading. It
was only really rainy in the start of the day,
I felt like, I know it kind of it trickled
down throughout the rest of the day and wherever we
were sitting, we were kind of covered, so yeah, and
then I just decided after that, I'm just going to
walk around maybe like undercovered areas as well on interview people.

(12:45):
So it was I think like at one o'clock. I
got there at nine, did all my stuff. Probably at
like one o'clock is when I decided to change and
I went into the media bathroom and it did the
whole Superman booth in there.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Nice and the weather, I mean, it didn't rain the
entire day, but you know, it just was in all aspects.
And I'm not saying this to complain, because it was
pretty It was pretty awesome to be there as long
as we were. And realize one that you can absolutely
stay dry there and the majority of of of you know,
of the day, if you want to. But clearly nobody
cared because again, the Derby's just simply not something you're

(13:21):
making arrangements for, especially if you travel, and especially if
you have got you know, if you're up in a
covered area where you know they wouldn't even allow us
in with the credential, like you don't mean you're never
gonna get wet. You probably got somebody holding an umbrella
for you. Till you get indoors and then you're just
you know, you're good to go for the rest of
the day. But that you know, that really stood out
is that there wasn't any really get there was no

(13:41):
givea damn about Oh man, I'm not going to enjoy
myself because the weather. I mean, again, it's such a
big deal to a lot of people. And I mean
even if you are somebody with endless amounts of money,
I mean, it's still a special thing that I would imagine,
you know, it would totally ruin the experience if you
just bummed about the weather. But again, the weather was
not good, but it didn't matter, especially as far as

(14:02):
just the the overall viewership. I know, people watching on
TV would likely not be you know, outdoors, so weather
wouldn't impact. But if you know, if there's ever any
fear that maybe maybe the millions of people who tune
in to watch the Derby that never watch horse racing
other than Derby, if there was any fear that like,
maybe they wouldn't be as interested if the if the
track was sloppy, that that worry should not exist, because

(14:27):
I mean, I think I saw seventeen point seven million
viewers Yeah, that's what NBC Sports announced yesterday, marking the
largest Kentucky Derby audience since nineteen eighty nine. So, I mean,
that's that's it tells you, and it puts it in
perspective just how I mean, how much attention is on
these two minutes when we have the annual Derby race

(14:47):
every year here and again. I tried to pay I
told myself I was gonna maybe pay a little little
attention to the national broadcast when the race ran, but
I totally forgot about it. But you know, if you
are just tuning in to just watch it because you're
you know, I don't know, maybe you're in Florida or
New York or Texas and you know, you just know, Hey,
the big sporting event today is the Derby. So I'm

(15:08):
gonna I'm at a I'm at a bar, I'm gonna
pull it up, or I'm at my house. I'm gonna
make sure and turn it on the TV. Whatever it
is like when you just tune in for that, how
much of what that brought that that experience is do
they even talk about like Louisville. I think most people
know Churchill Downs is in you know, Kentucky, because it's
the Kentucky Derby, But I don't know just the amount
of exposure that that that is on that that event

(15:31):
just you know, it's there's nothing else like it, really,
And what I mean is that there are different sporting
events that get crazy big numbers, but this is a
two minute race. Now again, maybe that makes it a
little bit more appealing because they know they're not making
some long commitment. But again, I found myself really last
week leading up to it, and then of course the
day itself, really just trying to live in the moment

(15:52):
and and really appreciate this awesome event that we have
and you know, being able to be a part of it.
Clearly I'm not like a part of the Derby experience
anybody else, but being able to cover it for our
team on has is something that you know, I shouldn't
take for granted, and I'm gonna I'm gonna certainly try
not to. Now, some other things we'll get into throughout
the throughout the day, because I always tried to find

(16:14):
some takeaways from you know, post Derby that that maybe
aren't just about the race itself. That's kind of you know,
where that's my comfort zone when it comes to talking derby.
I think you certainly learned that in the last couple
of weeks. But to see the the trainer of the
derby winner, you know, him and his family end up
at some like and I'll get to the specific STU
off it, but end up at a at a local

(16:35):
watering hole here in the Louisville area, like imagine how
I mean, I don't know if there's a connection, and
I'll certainly look into it to see if I can
figure something out. But there's one specific local bar here
that you know, probably couldn't have paid for the type
of like cool random exposure they got by somebody you
know in their family winning the Kentucky Derby and then
showing up late at night to kind of celebrate there.

(16:56):
So that's just cool things that like, you know, I
find to be interesting maybe than others. But anyways, we're
we're loaded today, trust me, We're we're gonna mix it up.
We're not just going to talk post Derby that kind
of stuff. But it does really feel like when when
it's Derby week and of course Derby weekend, I know
that there's other things going on in sports, obviously the
NBA playoffs and you know, the NFL has never not

(17:17):
talked about. We still have a ton of players in
the portal, so like there's things we'll get into, but
it kind of it kind of feels like everything just
stops whenever the Derby is is is upon us here.
So it's not that we haven't had, you know, much
to get into. It's just obviously the Derby takes up
a lot of attention, as as it should and always will.
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Speaker 1 (17:58):
Now back to Coffee and Open a fueled by Thornton's
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Speaker 2 (18:11):
Sometimes we get, you know, just caught up in our
own bubble, and maybe we have things that occur here
that I just assume are really rare, and maybe it's
pretty common. But yesterday I was still recovering from from
a long Derby week and weekend. And when I say recover,
it wasn't like I was, you know, I went like,
I mean, I was in bed, no joke before ten

(18:32):
o'clock on Saturday. So it wasn't like I had some crazy,
lively evening to where I just was, you know, I
was hammered or anything like that. That was more I
guess Friday. I mean, it wasn't anything crazy again, I'm I'm,
I'm me describing like having a fun night on a
Friday would probably not be anything exciting to any of you.
But I was so wore out by by Saturday. I
set my recliner at nine thirty, just kind of thinking, okay,

(18:54):
gonna wind down for a little while. I was completely
passed out by ten o'clock. And you know, that's just
what Derby Dale do to you. But I was away
from social media for a little while Sunday yesterday, and
then I get out my phone to see Mayor Craig
Greenberg post two photos that show something that like you
almost feel like is not real. It's got to be

(19:14):
some kind of like Hollywood special effects to make it
look like right. You know a lot of the things
you see in those movies like the Avengers movies and
Marvel stuff like you know that's like all created in
you know, by you know, professionals. It's not like it's
not real. Well there's another view of U, I guess.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Another accident that took place on one of our bridges
on sixty five south coming from Indiana, there was another
wreck with a semi where a driver of a semi
had to be rescued because they're eighteen wheeler was hanging
off of the bridge. And like we had that happen
about a year ago roughly maybe a little bit longer
ago than that, and it seemed, I mean, it got

(19:53):
national attention right, like it was a national story because
just the optics of that of that person hanging to
rescue a driver who was dangling across a bridge over
the Ohio River, like it was insane. And then this one,
I mean, again what I'm seeing here from the photos,
I mean, I don't want to downplay it, like all
that's no big deal, you know, throw some dirt on it.

(20:14):
You didn't even need the first responders to be hovering
over the vehicle to get you out. Like, I don't
want to act like this was not as bad, but
like I don't know, maybe it's the bridge that it
is or where it is, but I mean, that just
seems really crazy to happen once and we've had it
happen now twice and at least, you know, a year
and a half or something like that. So shout out
to the to the first responders who you know that

(20:37):
that may not be something they think they're gonna end
up getting into when they wake up and go to
work every day. However, I guess you never really know
what you're gonna end up getting into when you're a
first responder. So yeah, again, I don't know what that
says about the you know, the construction they did that
you know, kind of re routed as soon as you
cross over into the Kentucky side, but yeah, stay safe.

(20:59):
I mean I cannot image being the person that is
in that is in that vehicle that that you know,
I guess is it called the cab of your eighteen
wheeler you know, where like you sit and drive, you know,
I don't I know nothing about cars. Sorry, So yeah,
you're you're sitting in the cab and it's just, you know,
it's dangling, no joke, literally like hovering on the barricade

(21:20):
there and if you know, any slight movement seemingly it
could just you know, I mean, it's connected to the
to the actual, you know, to the actual the back
half of the eighteen wheeler, the cargo, I guess, and
that's probably what's keeping you there. But like I would,
I would be I mean, I would pass out, like
I would faint just because of pure panic. But you know,
shout out to everybody who you know was there to help,

(21:42):
because that's a very very scary situation. And I was
gonna say, not something you really ever see, but we've
now seen it twice and I feel like a relatively
short amount of time. But it's coffee and company we
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Thanks for getting your your week started with us. Obviously
it's post Derby week and maybe you're still kind of
you know, maybe tomorrow's the day where you really get

(22:02):
back into a groove. And if that's the case, I
can tell you that I that I totally understand. And
the weather today really gloomy earlier, and then I don't
know if it's supposed to stay sloppy, but it was
a pretty wet ride on my drive end. So yeah,
that rains lingered, and it's just, you know, I wish
you would go away. I now found myself very much
more appreciative of sunshine than I ever have. And I maybe,

(22:24):
you know, not to make everything about me, but maybe
mother Nature was really sending me a message here with
what she's done so far in twenty twenty five, because
the conditions have not been ideal. But you know what,
as mentioned earlier, they did not stop anybody from having
a phenomenal, phenomenal Derby day, all right. Five O two
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(22:44):
said the old number, but the new Ellen and Federal
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eight ninety seventy three. This text says, Nick, do you
think that UFL coaches will start really selling Derby as
an added bonus when it comes to getting players to
come and play for Louisville. I mean, I would assume
you've always, you know, maybe thrown that in there every

(23:05):
now and then when it comes to like why Louisville,
Why would you want to have your college experience at Louisville?
I mean, Churchill downs is certainly one of the first
things that comes to mind for a lot of people
when it comes to this city. Understandably so, but you know,
I mean, I guess now that I'm thinking about it,
Recruiting has really changed in a big way in the
last you know, couple of years, because you are you know,

(23:30):
you can sell the things you've sold forever, right, Like
the city is great, you would love to live here,
you can get a great education, we have great fans,
and you know, I mean the things that you know,
and I'm sure to they still obviously mentioned that when
they're really trying to sell somebody to come and play
for them, rather it be a transfer, portal prospect or

(23:53):
a kid that's right out of high school. Like you're
going to always mention things that are worth mentioning that
really do in fact, you know, it's good, it's a
good thing to You wouldn't want to not include that.
But now it really comes down, especially with transfers, and
those are the most impactful, Like when it comes to
your roster turning over year by year. I used to
only be freshmen. Now not at all. Now it's it's

(24:15):
I mean, I shouldn't say not at all. Freshmen is
still a part of that. But like when you think
about what your team can do in the off season
and which you hope your coach is out there you
know doing it, it's going and getting players in the portal. Well,
first of all, it's retaining guys that you don't want
to leave that you know, if they were to hit
the portal, it would you know, they'd be wanted by everybody.
And then it's of course, you know, evaluating what's out

(24:35):
there and seeing if you can go put together the
best roster possible. And I would say, if you are,
here's where you could you could spin it, and it's
not really a spin, it's the truth. It's just different,
right because when it comes to recruiting and really selling
a young man or a young woman on why they
would come and play for you, I mean, they would

(24:55):
always be like eighteen year old kids that you're like
selling them on wash they should start their you know,
you know, their their first time in life away from home.
Why they should come and play for you and live
in this city and go to this school. Well, now
you're selling to I guess you could still be selling
to younger, young adults. But like the biggest names I
feel like we talk about in the portal every year
for basketball and football. I mean, it's twenty one to

(25:18):
twenty two maybe twenty three year old grown ups.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
So like case in Pryor, let me give you an example.
He was at Derby celebrating, you know, and enjoying, you know,
the atmosphere at Kentucky Derby. I just saw one of
his Instagram posts and I'm thinking, now, you know, if
you concluded like a Kentucky Derby experience as part of
the NIL package, where you know, you get access to

(25:44):
really anywhere you want to be at the Derby, you
can get you know, you can Millionaire's Row or you know,
maybe the mansion. I mean, I don't know how they
you know, I don't know how they'd be able to
do that, but it wouldn't shock me if they've got
people who can help them get access to like big
time athletes that you know, one of the reasons why
they came here is because we told them that they'll
get the best Derby experience possible because they'll be there,

(26:06):
and they'll be in this room and this, and they'll
be around all the celebrities. I mean, I mean, you
can't really guarantee them anything other than hey, they can go.
But no, I mean, I think at this point it's
so competitive and clearly money is going to always be
a big big factor moving forward. But you know, maybe
you're going to give somebody like, let's just let's just
put it this way. Let's say Austin Montgomery is considering

(26:27):
transferring to finish his college basketball career at ME. He's
either going to go to the University of Louisville and
play for Pat Kelsey or he's going to go to
the University of Florida and play for Todd Golden and Gainesville.
You know, and it's down to these two schools and
both have have really sold him the same opportunity, both
have the same style of play that suits his game,

(26:48):
and both they're offering the exact same money. Well, if
Louisville could then come in and say, look, we're also
going to throw this on there that if you give
us this commitment, you know, let's say it's March, your
season just ended, you know, if you're here about if
you're here by may, we've got a setup for you
at Kentucky Derby that the expense of that, the cost
would actually be a good chunk of what we're paying
you to be here, because that's how special the Kentucky

(27:10):
Derby is. That's where you can offer something that nobody
else can because you know the Derby of courses, and
I guess maybe you k could do it too, to
be honest with you, So to answer your question, I
don't know if they utilize that, but why would they
not try to throw something together because I mean, I
imagine if you're twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, and
you know, you know how cool the Kentucky Derby experience is.

(27:30):
You're going to go to a school that could maybe
put you in a position to have the best experience
to where you know. And also, I mean to see
how many people were there Saturday, and I'm sure there's
a lot that goes into their decision to go. But
like I feel like a humongous part of Churchill Downs
now is just to set up for people to get
selfies and pictures to like show that they're there, which
again that makes sense for Churchill Downs because you want

(27:50):
millions of people doing that to where others feel left out.
They're like, oh, I got to get there. That looks
cool as hell. I got to get a picture for
the GRAM if they even call it that anymore. I
felt really old corny just saying that. But you know,
I think it used to be a saying. So to
answer your question, I think it would be foolish not
to include it. There may be some that don't care
and don't even really know what it is, but you know,
it can't hurt. And again, it's something that you can

(28:13):
utilize to your advantage that you know. I know there's
the Arkansas Derby, but I highly doubt that you know,
it comes anything close to what we have here at
Churchill Downs for the annual Kentucky Derby. All right, so
Bill Mott, of course, you know he was a part
of that winning crew on Saturday for Sovereignty, and I
just thought this was, you know, it's a random and

(28:37):
you know, seemingly spontaneous way to celebrate that. I just
feel like this this business, this restaurant, Joel Those Joel's
older than der which is like a beloved local dive bar,
it closed down for a little while and then reopen.
I think under different ownership. I could be wrong. I'll
stand corrected if that's not the case. But I mean,
it's it's it's it's been a known bar slash watering

(29:01):
hole around in the Louisville area for a long long time.
And it's a really cool atmosphere too. I don't I'm
not a regular by any means, but I've been a
handful of times, and uh, it's it's an awesome place.
But I'm dying to know if there's some kind of
a connection here, because there's a picture that that that
came out on I guess it was Saturday evening. It
might have been Ed de Rosa who who first put
it out on Twitter, because yeah, I think he grabbed

(29:23):
it from someone's uh from someone's TikTok where it shows
Bill Mott celebrating at at Joe's older than dirt.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
What's he really?

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah so but.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
But but think about being Joe's older than dirt, like
and maybe there's a connection here, like maybe he like
maybe they knew he was gonna come there regardless off
his horse won or not, because you know, he he
loves that place, but like you can get some real
I mean, you're you're getting exposure here that you didn't
have to pay a dime for, you know what I mean, Like,
cause it's just it's become a story that includes your business. Right,

(29:55):
it's not a paid ad. He didn't show up there,
you know, to to you know, do the Hey, I'm
Bill Maud And after winning the Kentucky Derby at Churchill Downs,
I head right over to Joe's Older than Dirt Like yeah,
but it's just spontaneous, but makes that that's an even
bigger sales pitch, right, Like that's why the best way
to have someone endorse your product that has a platform

(30:17):
is if for it to be real, to be genuine, Right,
it's not, it's not just something that seems like a
forced advertisement or something like that. So yeah, after the
victory on Saturday, the Hall of Fame Trainer traveled about
twenty minutes northeast to the Louisville neighborhood of London. First
celebratory libations at Joe's Little than Dirt in this unreading

(30:39):
dis directly from horse Racingnation dot com. So yeah, I
mean again, like the story's better if they don't know,
and it's just random. They're like, wait a second, are
you kidding me? You're telling me that the guy who
who just won the derby is the trainer who's a
Hall of famer who got his first Like you're telling
me that he's celebrating with us at at our. And
I hate saying dive bar because you know, makes it
sound like it's it's you know, it's a whatever type

(30:59):
of place. But you know, I think, you know what,
when I say die bar, I mean respect. That's that's
what I mean. Because I think a lot of places
want to pop up and be a dive bar, but
you gotta build it. You got to grow it. He
can't just say you're a dive bar. You gotta have
the history, you gotta you know, you gotta work for it.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
I like Joe, I bet it was pretty crowded that night.
Oh yeah, it usually is on a Saturday.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, because there's some that are you know, built different,
meaning they're able to do it. I wouldn't. I wouldn't
have been able to do it. But like when they
leave Churchill, they're none is going on home, like they're
gonna go probably find a spot like Joe's older than dirt,
have a few more drinks, keep the night going as
best they can. And you know, if they did it
on Saturday, they were they were able to be around
the uh, they were able to be around Bill Mont.
I don't know what time he was there, because obviously

(31:41):
he's got obligations right after, you know, winning the Kentucky
Derby to you know, still be at Churchill Downs all
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
But even cooler if he had the horse trailer there
with sovereignty. Yeah, that would be about advertisement.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
That would be amazing. That'd be amazing. So let's see
and and I'm sorry, I guess did Bill Mont was
that his first derby?

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Because I thought that was his first true derby He
won with country House disqualify or the uh that's disqualified?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I'm reading here from from a horse Racing Nation dot com.
This is a quote from Bill modesys. After we won
in twenty nineteen with country House, it was hard to
get anywhere, so we ended up here. We had such
a good time, we decided to make it a tradition
and we've come back every year since.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
There's there's the story that I was looking. There's there's
the update I was looking for. So maybe they were
expecting him because they knew he'd come through and he'd
been there before. But either way, congrats to everybody involved
that Joe's older than dirt. Because again, I love when
it comes together like that, to where you didn't have
to pay a dime. You just have a cool atmosphere.
It cut a cool bar that you know people like
and you they'd have to pay to get you there.

(32:46):
You'd have to pay to get them there. They're just
you know, they're showing up because they like it. And
then it becomes a big story because because again he
just won the Derby, which of course is a pretty
big deal, there's.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Live music going.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
I can imagine just buckets of Miller Lyte at at
at his table.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
That that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I love and I'm reading this says in nineteen ninety nine,
de Wayne Lucas celebrated winning the Derby. He had charismatic
he was at Old Charlie's and which you know that's
I don't is there are there even any Old Charlie's left?
I mean, I mean, that's sincerely, I'm not sure if
there are any around here.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
There might be like one, I think there's still one
surviving out on Dixie Highway.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Then it says here that he followed it up, meaning
Lucas did with a visit to Wendy's after winning in
the twenty twenty two Kentucky Oaks with secret oaths. So
I guess these guys have these guys have you know
plate Mew I would imagine by now, if you're in
this business, you know that where you end up after
winning the Oaks for the Derby, it's going to become
a story, especially with the internet being what it is now.

(33:44):
So who knows, maybe it could be your establishment that
one of these winning trainers shows up to it at
some point. All right, let's do this quick break. We'll
come back on the other side. Let you hear our
Derby montage of all of our coverage on Saturday for
the first time. Really really happy to be a part
of that and really proud of all of that went
into it. So, I mean a lot of our coverage.
There was a big, big crew. But shout out to

(34:05):
Jim Finn who puts this together every year and does
a great job doing it. So stick around. That's coming
up next, right, here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Day, well done, Austin Love. This song will never not
be nostalgic for me. I had to and it's a
perfect way to get us right into this. This is
our annual montage of all of our coverage that we
have from start to finish of the Kentucky Derby. So
here we go, just a taste of what we did

(34:37):
throughout the entire day. Let's get to a quick time out.
We'll come and let you hear the other end of
the other half of that once we get into the
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