5.9: Happy Mother's Day Weekend - Hour 2

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. I mean
I may not know you, but you know, if you're
a mom, happy Mother's Day. I'm sure you've got at
least I hope you've got folks in your life that
will let you know you're appreciated. Mom's, Grandma's. And this
is something I probably shouldn't throw out there and like
make it a talking point because sometimes when I just
when I don't know about something, I kind of just

(00:21):
throw it out there on the airwaves here and hopes
of people, like, you know, it's probably an insecurity. It's
a crutch that I have, Like hey, I don't think
I'm stupid, but let me throw it out there and
get reaction to see if like I'm if I'm in
the minority or not. But it is, it's really really
like I I feel like most people know that you

(00:42):
should celebrate the mother of your children on Mother's Day,
like you do your mom. But maybe I'm just saying
that because like my kids are so young that like
they won't be able to like clearly that my son
doesn't have a bank account, he can't go buy his
mother gift that kind of stuff. So like whenever they're older, like, well,

(01:03):
it's still be a thing. I kind of think it
will because you know, she's not my mama, but she's
a mama, and you know, moms are really important. I'm
very lucky and blessed beyond belief to have the mom
that I have, but also like very happy, you know,
this is Mother's Day. Also makes me be thankful that, like,

(01:24):
I have a woman in my life who is the
mom and my kids and you know, she's pretty damn
good at it from what I can tell, at least
you know, up to this point. So anyways, Happy Mother's Day.
Grandma's mom's, stepmom's mother in law's baby mama's too. I've

(01:44):
never referred to my wife as baby mama. I feel like,
what if I did this weekend on Mother's Day, she
probably wouldn't like that, But I mean, technically she is.
She's my baby's mother, although my children aren't babies anymore,
which is kind of sad. But anyways, let's get to
hour to or two started. We got two hours left
here before we get out of here for the weekend.
And if you are just not joining us, the news
that I started with that I think is really been

(02:07):
a theme this week is getting more info about what
Louisville's basketball schedule is going to look like, and mother
in the last I guess twenty six hours. I guess
maybe twenty five hours because it was at five o'clock
yesterday when UL put out the press release announcing that
they have renewed their rivalry series with Memphis for six years,
and then earlier today it was reported by John Rosstein

(02:29):
first and then Eric Crawford had something at DRB about it.
And it's not official, but it will be soon, I
would imagine. But now Louisville's going to play Cincinnati in
a two year series starting this year. First game will
be in December this year in Cincinnati, and then next

(02:49):
year Cincinnati will come to Louisville, but not to play
in the UMP Center, but to play in Freedom Hall.
So the game this year is going to be at
Heritage Bank Center in downtown Cincinnati, which is not Cincinnati's
typical home arena. I don't think I could be wrong
about that, but I certainly know that Freedom Hall is
not where Louisville plays basketball games anymore. So I mean,

(03:12):
if they played this at the UM Center, I'd be
totally fine with it. I mean I would have expected that,
but now that that it's at Freedom Hall, I'm also
totally fine with it. And I don't want to act
as if like there's been some like big uproar, but
at least some you know, Louis of fans that I
know that I talk to you, that I'm friends with,
you know, they were of the opinion that, you know,
this kind of seems like a force like Freedom Hall. Yeah,

(03:33):
there may be some nostalgia, but like it's a dump
compared to the Ump Center. We closed out the Yumps,
or we closed out Freedom Hall in perfect fashion. We
don't need to go back there, and like that's not
you know, everybody's entitled in their opinion. I just don't
really see any harm in playing there. And if you
believe that, you know, whatever happens when Cincinnati comes to
Freedom Hall next season, not the upcoming season, but the

(03:54):
season after in twenty twenty six, like if you think
whatever happens might ruin your lasting impression of Freedom Hall,
like I would, I would like to think that you're
you're gonna be wrong. I mean, you know, I don't
know that for certain, but when Kyle Kuric shut down
Freedom Hall, I was sixteen, fifteen years ago, whatever it
was like that wasn't It's been a long time, And

(04:16):
watching the TBT team play at Freedom Hall that certainly
provided some nostalgia, but like it didn't, you know, it
didn't make me think about the way we actually closed
that place now, which you know, the more time that passes,
the more that seems like something you see in a movie. Right, Like,
Louisville was not safely in the tournament. They were not
having a very good season to the standard Patino had

(04:38):
set for many years prior to that, and they got Syracuse,
who by the way, like, do people remember that Syracuse?
Weren't they the number one team in the country when
they came to close out Freedom Hall? I'm gonna have
to look that up because they were up there. Yes
they were, I mean they were. They were because Louisville
swept him that year and that was the year they
were really really good.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's what got us into the tournament that year.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yes, but I just said, yeah, they Okay, the I mean,
you weren't safely in the tournament. You're playing your last
game there, and you weren't having a good season, as
I mentioned, compared to what Rick had set the standard
for and it was a pretty competitive game throughout, and
then all of a sudden, Louisville took over because of

(05:19):
one man. And that man's name was Kyle Kurrick, and
at that point he was pretty unknown, and he wasn't
even on scholarship. I don't think, so, you know, I
don't think there's any like Louisville could play two games
at Freedom Hall and lose and it wouldn't change how
I view how we shut that place down, because we've
been gone for a long time, and that was such
an epic sendoff, and I mean it was like it

(05:41):
was cinematic how that worked out. And I remember he
was known for this because he just had a lot
of energy and I love this guy. Man that era was,
I don't know, I don't know what they were really good.
That was part of it. But when I really kind
of like i'd stopped playing basketball because I realize, you know,
I didn't want to play college basketball if it meant

(06:03):
being the eighteenth guy on the roster at like the
Division three level. So once I decided I was going
to not do that, and you know, didn't really know
what I wanted to do, I fell in love with
Louell hoops all over again in a crazy way to
where I just decided, Okay, I want to write about
this team. I want to cover him like I you
know here I am today. But that era around that time,
like two thousand and seven to really on. But Jerry Smith.

(06:26):
I remember when I think of the final game of
Freedom Hall, I think of Jerry Smith, and I think
he might have got hurt, but I remember him waving
the towel like crazy, because that's what Jerry did. Jerry
was going to whip that towel around and it was
I mean he was. He was bringing the energy and
again it's all kind of coming together. I think he
might have I think Kyle might have played because Jerry

(06:47):
was hurt. A lot of mixed in that game. But
that was not a good year by any means. In
the next game we saw them, I think they got
bounced early in the Big East Tournament, and then they
also got bounced by Cal. Whish We talked about that
game whenever Cal came to town, because that's the only
memory I have of Cal basketball.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Remember whose game it was, rakeeen Buckles.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I was so proud that you knew that when I
didn't have to tell you that. When we talked about it,
I remember it's one of the moments where I was like,
this guy, he does he's one of me. He's he's
he's he's like me, I get it because we else,
Well remember that random thing, you know.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there, go a man if
if the rest of the team can match Rackeem's energy,
then when we have a shot. Even though like any
normal fan that wasn't Pie in the sky like I was,
was like, yeah, this game's over, kind of like the
year before when we got eliminated by Michigan State.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
YEP.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
It seems like a lot of it seems like a
lot of fans I've talked to was like, yeah, that
just wasn't Louisville's game. And there's a I guess a
bunch of stuff going on with Terrence Williams behind the scene.
But I'm just sitting there, like halftime, I think Preston
Knowles was having a game of his life, like that
was a huge comeout game for Preston Noles.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I'm sitting there thinking art makes.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Sense because it was probably him doing enough. But nobody
like what you're thinking. Where's everybody else et?

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, well everybody could get going and they could just
match p Ka's energy right here, we'll have shot and
it just it never never never maticulated, matriculated.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, I think the the Freedom Hall. I mean, like
I'm not someone that it's been like, hey, we got
to play a game at Freedom Hall because you know,
like we need it for nostalgia. But here's what I
believe is probably gonna be the scenario here is that
this will not be a because the biggest issue to
where like why don't we play one game of your

(08:25):
Freedom Hall? It's because season ticket holders, like how would
you like, you know, there's not as many seats at
Freedom Hall and you wouldn't be able to get everybody
in the same seat. So where what's happened now is
that they've this this is how you would have to
do it. This is this is considered a neutral site series.
You're playing louis Louisville's playing Cincinnati, and Cincinnati not at

(08:45):
their home arena. Cincinnati is coming to Louisville to play Louisville,
but not at the Yum. And that's where like, honestly,
I don't really know how it's gonna work as far
as the money, but like this is probably then this
is probably the fairgrounds event. Like I don't know how
you again, I don't know if you've got like a
contract or whatnot, but like U of L will probably
be able to sell tickets, but like, this is not

(09:06):
a home game for either, because that's how you have
to do it, because if you have season tickets, like
you can't just say, okay, well, hey, only the you know,
only premiere season ticket holders get access to this game.
So it's truly a neutral site game in every aspect
other than the fact that you know it's not because
you're playing in Louisville, whereas you know you would assume
I don't know, I guess, I guess maybe the scenarios

(09:26):
that you would get a more mixed crowd because you know,
there's not anybody that's going to be at either game
that's there because of a season ticket. So yeah, Louisville
right now in this upcoming season is going to be
playing in the non conference portion of their schedule. Kentucky, Indiana, Memphis, Tennessee,

(09:46):
and Cincinnati of course what I just mentioned, and then uh,
we don't know for certain, but it sounds like it's
gonna be Arkansas in the acc SEC Challenge. So there
is clearly some real connections in every aspect to every
one of those opponents. And look, that's the stuff that
makes sports fun, right, Like we're gonna watch our team
play and hope that they win no matter who they play,

(10:08):
especially if it's a good team. But when there's familiarity,
there's history, and there's rivalry, which clearly there is between Cincinnati,
Memphis and you know, Louisville. So it's good. And I
don't again I started the show, I think given Pat
Kelsey a lot of credit for, you know, really understanding
the fan base and kind of playing to us and
understanding that these are games that we would really appreciate.

(10:30):
And I'm not saying he doesn't deserve credit for that,
but like, I'm sure there's more to it than just him,
but like, these are the kind of things like put
it this way. This is the best way I can
say it before we move on. It's hard to get
to get people interested in like coming to your games
if they're not season tickets holders, unless they're just you know,
like it's what they do. There's a core group of
every fan base that's gonna be there regardless of whatever's

(10:51):
going on. But then there's others that, like, you know,
they're gonna support their fans, they'll come to games, but
like it's really just whenever it's convenient for them or
whenever it's a big game. Having games against Memphis, Cincinnati,
and Indiana and even Tennessee to an extent, although that
series will come to an end after this year and
we played them last year, Like those are games that, yeah,

(11:13):
you know, I definitely would like to make sure I
have a ticket to come to that one rather than
playing bellerman E, k u UTEP, you know, Florida A
and M something like that. And also you clearly are
playing a tougher schedule, which is going to matter more
now than it ever has when it comes to the
non conference because the ACC obviously taken some steps back.

(11:33):
All right, So the College Football Playoff is going to change,
and we've only had it one year as far as
it being an expanded playoff. So there were meetings that
took place a few weeks ago in Dallas. It was
the College Football Playoff Spring meetings, and this came out
from Ross Ellinger, who I would say it is probably

(11:57):
the top guy to follow when it comes to the
college football playoff conference realignment, that kind of stuff. He
used to work. He's worked for a lot of folks.
He used to be at Sports Illustrated. Now he's at Yahoo,
and he's the one who reported that as sixteen team
college football playoff bracket has gained big time support, and

(12:17):
of course it's mostly from the Big Ten of the SEC,
which again, like I don't know, I just I feel
like I'm not able to just like not be I
don't know, this is big news, but like I can't
share this news and discuss it without being sour grapes

(12:37):
because it's just to me, this is becoming a popularity
contest more than anything else, and that's just sad to me, Like,
clearly you got to win, like you can't be terrible.
But what I assumed what happen is apparently happening, and
that is that there's going to be guaranteed automatic bids

(12:59):
for four teams from the SEC, four from the Big Ten,
two from the ACC, two from the Big twelve, one
from the G six, which what is G six, it's
G five. There's only four conferences.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
There's fly like a G six. You remember that song.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well, I guess it's now power four and the G
six is what it used to be called the G five. Oh,
I get it, now, I get it. The PAC twelve
is being told you can call yourself the PAC twelve.
You're you're not power five, it's power four now, which
is true. Like anybody worth a dam in the PAC
twelve got taken, you know what I mean, Like Oregon

(13:39):
State in Washington State, don't get to say we rounded
up some bombs from the Mountain West and the WCC
and now we're Power five two, Like, no, you're not.
So that's what that means. So there's now G six
and only one team from those is going to get in. Well,
I guess you could get in as an at lard,
like there's one guaranteed slot for Boise, for an app State,

(14:02):
for a Memphis something like that. But the at largest
can be anybody. So like if there was a year
where there were two teams from the so, I guess
one of the at largest has got to be Notre Dame,
right has to be? So really in years like Notre Dame,
if Notre Dame stinks and they're six and six and
they wouldn't get in so therefore there'd be three at
largs and I guess technically one of those at large

(14:24):
could be another G six. But here's what I think
is gonna happen. You're gonna get You know, clearly we
know four from the SEC, four from the Big Twelve,
and the likelihood of the three at larges going to
a Big twelve or an ACC team non existent. I mean, right,
because it's popularity. They want to talk about viewership being

(14:47):
a factor being part of the criteria to get in.
And I'll be honest, in recent years, like I'm not
saying that there's been enough from the ACC or the
Big Twelve to where like they're gonna they're getting screwed,
but just to know that you can be terrible, Like
the SEC coaches could collectively get together and say, yeah,

(15:09):
y'all want to take the year off. I mean, we're
kind of tired, we ran out of money to pay
players other than the REV share, We're going to automatically
get four in any way, Like, let's just do that.
Like guaranteeing four spots in this college football Playoff before
any game is played to any team in any conference
is insanity and it is absolutely the biggest step made

(15:36):
in college football. To make it quite clear, it's based
off of popularity in brand more than it is results.
That's what this is. And I'm aware that there could
be no guaranteed spots and it still play out this

(15:57):
exact way. I know that at least lie to me,
make me think that it was based off of what
you believe that these teams earned, regardless of what conference
they're in. And this is not an this is not
an ACC thing from my end, meaning I'm not here

(16:18):
acting like the ACC is gonna get robbed and gonna
get screwed. I mean they are if they're good, because
they won't get Like anybody agreeing to this, you're agreeing
that moving forward, no matter what happens, those leagues are
just better and they probably will be. Or maybe I
don't know, like maybe Nick Saban comes out of retirement

(16:40):
and takes over at Virginia Tech. Maybe Kirby Smart gets arrested,
gets fired, then he gets hired at Miami. Like I'm
giving you crazy hypotheticals here, but I'm just saying like,
if in fact those things happen, it wouldn't matter because

(17:03):
ACC's only slotted too. Like think about that, like we're
saying before a season starts, results don't matter. Why would
we do that if you truly believe that you are
as you know, dominant as you are in football, which

(17:24):
I'm not saying that you're not great in football, though
timing isn't great here because last year things played out
to where you didn't do anything out of conference to
prove that you deserve the benefit of the doubt, meaning
you can be an eight and four nine and three
team in the SEC and you can live in delusional
world of like, well that means we basically would have
been eleven and one in any other league. Well, then

(17:44):
you played teams from other leagues and you lost or
you lost to teams in your league that everybody knows, thinks.
So like, you know, if you really do believe that
you are as dominant as you think you are, then like,
why do you need the guarantees? Just go be badass?

(18:05):
It's like you claim you are. And again, I don't
want to sound like a hypocrite because if you're Greg
Sank and this is what you're fighting for, you're doing
your job. I mean, hell, Greg SANKI would he be
out of line to request all twelve. I'm sorry all
sixteen be SEC teams, Like, I mean, that's not realistic.
But like his job is to advocate for his conference,

(18:26):
his league. So I mean, if you're the ACC or
the Big twelve, you can be real with yourself and
know that right now you are behind. But agreeing to this,
what's your incentive to even go out and get better.
You're slotted it too, they got two more than you,

(18:50):
Like what like why would you agree to this? You
could get substantially better and you'll still know that no
matter what, the are getting double up to what you're
getting in in the playoff. I just I just don't
want to understand how this this makes. I mean, again,

(19:10):
it makes sense for the SEC and the Big ten
if you can get away like if if it if
it it's what if they agree to it? But like,
and I know what kind of leverage did the ACC
and the Big twelve have?

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Not much?

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Right, But at some point, like if you're not gonna
lie to me and tell me that it's all based
off of like what teams did and how you evaluate them,
not by predetermined slots set up for each conference at
a certain amount, then just tell us it's popularity. And again,

(19:46):
I'm always gonna watch college football because I don't know
a scenario where I wouldn't. I love it. But like
this is this is take this is making it to
where it's like it's not really about what you do,
like because you can do whatever and it won't matter.
So we'll see if that gets you know, approved, then Also,

(20:07):
like if you're in the like if you're in the
SEC and you're like a Kentucky, I mean, you're never
gonna get one of the four, right, Like I think
Kentucky's only chance and Mississippi State's only chance is gonna
be one of the at largest and you're just gonna
have to get in based off of like again benefit

(20:31):
of the doubt, Like, well you played in the SEC
and yeah you weren't. Like imagine any world where you're
not one of the four best teams in your league,
but you get a chance in the playoff over a
team that might have been, like, you know, the second
best team in their league. Again, because results don't matter. Affiliation, popularity,
that's what it's about. Now, all right, let's take a
quick break. We'll come back on the other side. We

(20:54):
got to talk about the Bill Belichick situation, because despite
this statement from North Carolina today about you know, I
guess wanting to put people at ease and and I
guess correct something that they felt they needed to correct
about Belichick's young girlfriend being allowed near the program at all.

(21:18):
I mean, there's there's there's some I guess verbiage in
the contract with Belichick that now makes me more confident
now that I've seen this that like he ain't gonna
coach a game there. It's not gonna happen. Stick around.
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Speaker 5 (21:33):
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Speaker 1 (21:44):
So in about an hour, we were gonna do our
Mother's Day draft. We're not drafting New Moms, but I
guess I should have made sure I was. I was
ready to say that correctly. We're going to do a
draft of TV Moms. We've done this before, it's been
a couple of years, but with Mother's Day coming up
and I love implementing different drafts to the show, Austin

(22:06):
and I are going to do a draft of TV Moms.
Let's go our favorite mothers that we you know, enjoyed
through a television show.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
There's a lot of good ones out there.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, there's uh, there's I mean, there'll
be some that don't get that don't get picked, but
are certainly worthy of maybe a free agent type contract,
you know.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
O DFA board is gonna be uh, it's gonna be
pretty wild.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Because in most I mean there aren't many There are
not many television shows that I can think of where
there was ever any like way of making a like
mom's never a bad character, and if they are at
times seeming like it, there's always that level of life.
Let me give you an example, this one. I don't
think we'll be drafted by either of us, but Skyler

(22:50):
in Breaking Bad, Walter White's wife, she's the worst and
very easy to hate. But throughout the show. For me,
and it's been many, many many years since I watched you,
at times would would have a moment of like, well,
I totally get while she's acting like she's acting like,
look what's going on in her world? But you know,
it's a TV show, so you kind of get lost

(23:10):
in it and you know, don't really consider you know.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Something's always been kind of hot about Skyler to me,
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
You might be the first person I've ever heard say that.
Not that I found her to be repulsive or anything
like that. I've just never heard anybody say that, because
anytime she's ever been talked about that I know of,
it's been people like, oh, she sucks. Although yet she
was more popular than her sister, Hank's wife. What was
her name?

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Wow, she was very easy to hate. Oh was it Christine? Maybe? No,
it was I'm gonna look at a Walter White's sister
or not Walter White.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Hold on, give me a second, because it's it's always
on my as.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I found it. It's a real easy name.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Marie Murray. I knew it was Murray. I knew it.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, But am I wrong? I mean, I haven't watched
that show in so long.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah. I didn't like Marie.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Most people didn't. But nobody likes Skyler.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Right, Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I didn't like her either, But in perspective, there's some
just like you said. That's I kind of get it.
I kind of get why she's sort of act in
that way. But she went about.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Things and executed things terribly the wrong way during the show.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Every character in that show, from start to finish, had
moments of you not liking them, Yes, every one of them,
even Walter. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's that's to me. That's
what I mean. That's what makes a great TV show
and a TV character is that someone who you find charismatic,

(24:37):
you find ways to I mean, you don't even realize
it why you're doing anying, because you know you're watching TV,
but like you don't have any ability to take a
step back and realize that despite this person seeming like,
you know, kind of funny or interesting or maybe even
understandable as to why they're the way they are in
your world, most people would be like, this guy's like me,

(24:59):
give it. I don't know if you ever watched this
show Shameless, have you ever seen it?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
You know what it is.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Frank Gallagher is the perfect example of why I kept that.
I mean that show and they ended up I mean
it didn't it needed to end like three seasons before that,
it before it did. But he is one of my
favorite characters. But in every aspect he's an absolute piece
of garbage. He's a human and like, you know that,
but then you kind of like see that you know,
there's like a level of wanting to find some good

(25:29):
just like the people in the show do, like they
don't want this brother father husband to be the way
they are, you know. So moms, though, I feel like
there's not been a whole lot of range with mothers
and TV shows, even ones that are like a little rough,
like they're usually like, let me give you another example
of a mom that I just when I watched this show,

(25:50):
she was my least favorite character. But like if I
ever kind of sat back and you know, tried to
envision you know, her situation in the real world, not
on TV, like I would get watched she is the
way she is the mom and everybody loves Raymond. I
mean her her name was also Marie, like like, you know,
her husband was a real dumbass, you know what I mean, Like,
you know, and her reaction her, you know, her on

(26:16):
the show was very justified given that you know, she
had who she had as in laws and her husband
was a real dufust you know. It's just that show.
I appreciate that show. Oh my god, yes, like that show.
Let me give you that show was on and it
was really actually it might have been the reruns. At
the time, it was really big whenever I watched it.
But I do remember it being on live when I

(26:37):
was young, but the majority of what I watched was
after it had already come to an end. But I uh,
you know, nowadays with all the all the streaming platforms
and just I mean I could, I could. I don't
think I'll ever need a network TV show to watch,
just because there's all kinds of different platforms that have
all endless stuff you can find. But we went to

(26:58):
vacation a couple of years back and we took my mama,
who you know, she's she's now close to ninety years old,
and you know, she she watches a lot of those shows,
and she just kept it on in her in the
area of the house that we rented near the beach
in Jacky Island, and she just she watched a lot.
I think it was TV Land. She kept it on

(27:19):
TV Land and they played, they played Everybody Loves Raymond
like I feel like, twenty four hours a day. And
we would spend time with her and end up just
kind of getting getting lost and binging in a little bit,
watching you know, four straight episodes. And I would never
seek it out, but like I've remembered, like I do,
like I like that show, Like that show is like
you know, it's uh, I don't know if I watched
it for the first time now that I would enjoy it,

(27:39):
But there's some nostalgia to it, but also like to me,
I don't And they probably make sitcoms the same exact
way now And maybe I'm just now spoiled to where
I know, I don't like I can find other stuff
that's more interesting to me. But no, Everybody Loves Raymond
is a good show, and I can't believe it's been
off the air as long as it has. Where does
time go? It's crazy? All right, So let's talk about
the Bill Belichick situation. So it's really just seemingly been

(28:03):
a never ending run here where every day there's a
new story that, like you just assume is true about
his twenty four year old girlfriend who's really controlling, you know,
seemingly his whole life. It was Pablo Torre who put
it out there, I believe, on a podcast that came

(28:24):
out this morning. Yeah, Pablo Torre. Pablo Torre finds out
as the name of his show, and whatever latest episode
they did, it was released earlier today, and it included
him saying that North Carolina the university has basically banned
Jordan Hudson from any from their football facilities.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
And all that.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
In fact, let me see if I can get this
to play for you. This might actually here we go.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
A couple of breaking news updates since what has happened
publicly since we last gathered Number One, okay, two sources
at the University of North Carolina tell me that there
has been a decision was made last week by the
higher ups inside the athletic department that had hired Bill
Belichick to be the highest paid public employee, not just coach,
in the state of North Carolina, at ten million dollars

(29:11):
a year, and that decision was that Jordan Hudson is
no longer allowed in the football building.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
She is not allowed on the football field. Quote. Don't
think you'll be hearing much from Jordan moving forward.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
Dang not the building.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I'm so. That of course, got a lot of reaction,
and within the hours of it being a real story
and really just a development within the story, North Carolina
released a statement basically saying that that wasn't true and
I don't let me see if I can find the
actual their actual statement, because I mean the fact that

(29:50):
they have to release statements about this is insane and
it has to be I mean, it has to be
something that like deep down they realize, is that, like
they this isn't worth it, right, even if they're having
to correct things like this, these things aren't going away.

(30:10):
There's nothing anybody could say about Bill Belichick, seventy something
year old man and his twenty four year old girlfriend
and what we know now as far as what's been
put out before all this, like you're gonna have to
keep doing this because there's not going away. This thing
has created a life of its own, and you have
to ask yourself do you keep like why keep doing this?

(30:33):
What's the payout? What makes it? And even if it
is in fact like all an exaggeration, what do you expect?
You hired a seventy something year old guy who's no
longer coaching, who's now I mean, like him being interested
in coaching in college should have been a red flag
to Carolina, like what are you doing here? Bill? What
do you need this for?

Speaker 2 (30:50):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
And he might not have had an answer until he
got one from Jordan, So Carolina did say that that's
not true. Kind of here's what they said, quote, while
Jordan's not an employe at the University of Carolina, she
is welcome to the Carolina football facilities. Jordan will continue
to manage all activities related to Coach Belichick's personal brand
outside of his responsibilities for Carolina Football in the university.

(31:14):
So they're saying that she's welcome, and they're clarifying in
there that she's responsible for his personal brand outside. Why
not just say she's not responsible for it, she doesn't
have anything to do with And you kind of did
by saying she's not an employee. But like, this thing
is a mess. And here's what Like all the stories
we've heard about her forcing her way into that dunkin

(31:38):
Donuts commercial, at the time, nobody knew it was just
some hot chick that was, you know in the commercial
with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon and Bill Belichick and
they're just playing into the Boston stuff. You know who
else was in that commercial, randomly Jack Harlowe. They brought
out all the stars. Well she's in it, and nobody
knew at the time that was Belichick's girlfriend. Well, now
we see her in there and like the stories come out,

(32:00):
Oh yeah, we remember her. She wasn't supposed to be
in it. She forced her way in and we knew
we wanted to get Bill in it, which Bill Belichick
being in that commercial at that time was huge. I mean,
he was fresh off he just got done I think coaching.
I think he might have.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
He might have.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
He might not have even been done coaching New England
when that was filmed, to be honest with you. So
there's that. And then now we hear about Belichick doing
a commercial where there were girls in bikinis. Have you
heard this one, Austin. No, Yeah, he did a commercial
where there was like girls in bikinis that were like
part of like you know, the shoot, and she got jealous,
so she went and put on a bikini and showed

(32:34):
up too and tried to get in the commercial as well.
And or maybe wasn't. Maybe it's just a photo shoot.
I don't know what it was. Like it was a
brand deal that he did, basically him, but probably something
she arranged because she wants his money. But there were
girls in bikinis and she put on a bikini and
like either she was in it as well or Here's
what it was. She told them that if she wanted

(32:56):
to be in a bikini, to keep his attention because
if not, he'd be distracted. Like what so here, here's
what we now know with Carolina. And maybe they can
get away with saying, well, we have to we have
to respond to things that aren't true about our program
and our decisions. But I happen to think that if
they knew for certain that all these things we're hearing
about her in the last two weeks aren't true, they'd

(33:20):
be letting us know, wouldn't they. So Like, if you're
going to correct this but not correct the other stuff, again,
you may have the gray area of well that's their
personal stuff. Either way, it's your ball, coach. Like I mean,
this is this is an absolute circus. Like I don't
know any Carolina football fans, and I'm not saying that
to make fun. I'm being serious. I don't know any.

(33:40):
I know some that are Carolina basketball fans, but they're
just bandwagon fans who like Michael Jordan or something and
didn't want to, you know, be a Louisvere or Kentucky fan.
But like, your your program is TMZ in football right now.
But here's here's what tells me that this will end
before he coaches the game. And I don't know why

(34:03):
there's not more attention on this. Remember his buyout that
he was all, you know, real like fighting, like they
were trying to say, like, look, you know we're not
gonna hire if you're going to go to the NFL. Well,
they ended up getting him to agree to an adjusted
buyout that that would limit him from getting a last
minute an NFL job, right, So in thirty days, and

(34:27):
in fact less than thirty days, his buyout drops from
ten million to one million. And Bubba Cunningham, who's the
ad who's been at odds with the school and the
board there for a while, including with the Hubert Davis situation,
he's now linked to the Michigan State athletic director job.
He goes to Michigan State to get out of this

(34:48):
mess with Hubert and Bill Belichick. Like, to be honest,
Carolina is a mess. Hubert Davis is not bringing any
shame and embarrassment to their program, but he ain't good
enough to be their coach and that's been proven in
the last couple of years. And so this offseason they've
gotten worse in my opinion, So Bubba Cunningham's gone. Whoever
takes over, it's a million dollars to cut your losses

(35:09):
with Belichick and then you start fresh, and then you
probably get rid of Hubert Davis at some point. Like
that's probably what's gonna happen, because that makes too much
sense not to happen, not to play out that way
given what's going on. I mean, you could, I mean
promote Lonnie Galloway. Not Lonnie Galloway. He's not there anymore.

(35:29):
I don't think he let he did leave Louisville for Carolina.
But I'm meant to say Grek McGee, like Geric McGee
left Louisville staff to go be on Belichick's staff, does
make him head coach, he'll be just as good because
Belichick is not really there. Clearly his family's even concerned
now that like this is something right here, So I mean,
there's really nothing. Look at this point, you can just

(35:52):
understand as a university people could make up all kinds
of nonsense and it's nonsense, but like you no longer
have any ability to can control the narrative here, So
cut your losses. I mean, to me, it's an easy decision,
and I wouldn't be shocked if what you know, the
whole Bubba Cunningham and the buyout, like I think that'll

(36:12):
lead to this thing just dying soon. All right, quick break,
we'll come back and wrap up the four o'clock hour
pretty quickly, and then we got the five o'clock hour
before we get out here for the weekend. So stick
around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
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Speaker 1 (36:29):
We'll see if the Pacers can get off to a
three and oh start tonight. They're at home after stealing
I mean really stealing game game two. They got game
one without a whole lot of controversy. But that comeback
against the Calves, I think it might have killed Cleveland,
but we shall see, we shall see. But tomorrow it
is Celtics Knicks in New York and Austin. Do you

(36:53):
have any any feel, any care at all for like
Knicks fans? Like, do you do you like are they
ever to or do you like them? Not like them? Indifferent? Whatever?
I like them better than Celtics fans, I think, I mean,
I don't actually thought about it the other night. I
don't like either of these teams really right, and the
Celtics are pretty easy for me to dislike, But it's

(37:14):
really not for any it's you know, it's not for
any real specific reason. But the Knicks. There was a
time where I used to kind of admire the Knicks because,
like I and honestly, to be fair, they have proven
that if they have any little bit of momentum, like
they're gonna get a lot of attention because they're in
the biggest market and their fans they have a lot
of them. But they're they're like the biggest front running

(37:35):
franchise in my lifetime in any sport because they've never
accomplished anything in my life and anytime they have any
real big, like burst of momentum, they're always humbled and
you know, belittled, but like they don't ever take their medicine.
They just still, you know, like the Knicks would the
Knicks behavior after a win, players fans top to bottom

(38:01):
would make you think that they've won thirteen rings in
the last twenty years. Yeah, and they don't. They don't
have any accomplishments to show like they Patrick Ewing is
the best Nick of my lifetime, and he never made
it to the finals. I mean, you know, like they've
they've been really bad for a long time, with way
better resources than most because they're the Knicks in New

(38:22):
York City. And I do think this team, like Jalen
Brunson is, I respect the hell out of them. I
think he's a really good player. But you know the
other good players who again are good, deserve their credit,
but like they're easy to dislike. I mean, Josh Hartz,
the ultimate, he's on your team, hell yeah, if not yet,
I don't like him. So I don't like either of

(38:44):
these teams. But the Knicks, man, when you know they've
got they probably in a weird way. Although I think
a lot of these people have to be bandwagon because
what part of their life, Like did the Knicks give
them great memories to make them huge fans? But they've
got a ton of celebrity fans and Spike right, he doesn't,
you know, we don't need to check his credentials. We
know he's I mean, he's a lifer, like he'll never

(39:05):
not rep the Knicks at any moment, right. And then
there's others that like I just remember always being around,
like Ben Stiller, believe it or not, of all people
like he's he's a diehard Knicks fan and it's been
pretty clear. But they play tomorrow in New York City
and the cheapest resale ticket to get into the Garden
is six hundred dollars. That's insane, and it's because you
know they're up to Oh, they've had more momentum now

(39:27):
than ever and uh, you know, everybody wants to be
there and they'll be. I guarantee you there'll be more
celebrities at that game than any NBA playoff game we've
had in a long time. I mean that, even more
than La even more when the Lakers and Lebron were
on a round. I mean it because it's just different
with New York.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yeah, I listen. I love New York, love the Garden,
love MSG. I mean you talk about walking into a
place and just feeling the history. But like, like you said,
what what other kind of like normal fans are are
going to that game that for six hundred dollars a ticket.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
And last year I was really into the playoffs for
one series more than I've been in a long time
because it was the Knicks. There's a history there, Like
I remember watching Reggie tell Spike Lee, you know you
all choke, can you believe it? Like the Knicks were,
you know, the bad guys, and I'm a Pacers fan,
and when they got off to a lead last year

(40:25):
against the Pacers, and Josh Hart while Reggie was live
on the broadcast, ran over and started talking crap to
Reggie while he was on live TV, just being like
the Knicks. And then we come back and get him
in Game seven to end the series in New York,
and like nobody talked about.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
It, and that just forgot about it.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
It pained me because it's just part of like the
full proof that like market matters, meaning right, if you
got a chance to prop up the Knicks, do it.
But like they got humbled because they were talking reckless.
They felt like they'd won the series. They were trying
to punk the Pacers, and the Pacers went into the
garden in Game seven and never never led by less

(41:05):
than double figures outside the first few minutes.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Oh yeah, I feel like last year I pumped them.
That rivalry really got restored, especially when you're talking about
like between Tyree.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
But nobody talked about it because the narrative is that
we just got to prop up the next because the Knicks. No,
you're right, and the Pacers punked them. And the Pacers
also gave away two games just they the Pacers should
have been up to zero against the Celtics to start
the Eastern Conference. At the Eastern Conference was the finals
of the Simmis. Last year, it was the Simmis because
they went on to play Boston. Right, No, who did

(41:35):
Boston beat in the finals of the Eastern Conference Finals?
It wasn't the Pacers. The Spacers didn't make the East
Conference finals. But either way, Milwaukee maybe, but I know,
Boston beat Indy and they swept them, actually I believe,
but the Pacers freaking had it. I mean at least
two of the first four games the Pacers honestly kind
of I guess that's the good part about being a

(41:56):
Pacers fan. No matter what you do, if it's sensational
or if it's bad in a bad way, like you're
not relevant enough for it to be in people's memory.
Cause again, like that was a big deal last year
that the Knicks got all cocky like they were back,
they're about to, you know, back from what they've never
been good in forty years, but like they're you know,
New York is here, and then you get humbled by

(42:17):
you know, in Game seven in your house right and
stephen A. Smith melted down and cried like a little girl,
and you know, all forgotten because you know it makes
me I'm if you can't tell them. I'm dealing with
the realization that, like my teams that I love in
pro sports, market size matters, and the Colts are never
going to be a big attraction for a free agent.

(42:39):
Neither are the Pacers. So you got to build up
and draft. And we got lucky with the Colts with
the draft with Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck and now
we're screwed. And then with the Pacers, like I think
they're doing absolutely in all honesty, the Pacers as an
organization have always done the best they could. Like we
we were in phenomenal shape to win rings, and then

(42:59):
Lebron decided, you want to go to Miami, And you know,
Lebron in Miami was the scariest Lebron we ever watched.
I don't know if anybody remembers that he embraced being
a villain. He wore a mask, looked like Batman, at
times out there, like he couldn't believe people hated him
because of the decision, and like Miami Lebron after year
one there, when Dirk got his ring in Dallas that
next year, it was it was scary times for Lebron

(43:22):
in Miami and like we just couldn't get past him.
We had a damn good team with Roy Hibbert. Lance
Stevenson was a big part of that team. Obviously our
main guy was Paul George at the time, and you know,
just didn't work out. So I'll quick crying about it
because I know none of you all care. Let's get
to a break. We'll come back and finish strong here
on a Friday, gets you out of here for Mother's
Day weekend. On Sports Talk seven ninety