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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
John. It is eight oh four here at Kentucky had
his morning news with Nick Coffee on news radio eight
forty wha s Scott Fitzgered alongside also John Alden and
one of the stories you heard from John Shannon there
is the the rise in scammers that are trying to
let people know, hey, you didn't pay this traffic violation
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you owe for a toll that you you know you
didn't pay for. And I talked about a little bit earlier.
I'm surprised still some that people fall for that, but
maybe I shouldn't be so surprised. There are a lot
of people out there, and all it takes is I mean,
I would say the percentage of people who do fall
for it, even if it's insanely low, that makes it
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worth it for the scammers because they're just sending out
I mean, they're just mass texting probably you know, millions
of people. And it reminded me of that, these scammers,
because I felt bad after I said, who's still.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Falling for that?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Because sometimes you just have to no, no, no, I'll stop
passing judgment because I nearly got got by a scammer
and I the ultimate takeaway for me on this experience
was how good they were at what they were doing
to where you know, And I'm sure maybe some were thinking, well, yeah,
they were good because they saw you as a sucker
and you were the gullible idiot that they thought they
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were going to be able to take advantage of. But
we were on vacation in Destin, Florida. This was probably
about four or five years ago, and we got a
phone I got a phone call on my cell phone
and it was a local number, and it wasn't one
that I had saved in my phone. And because we
were in another state, I mean, I honestly I probably
wouldn't have answered if I was home, But because I
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was away, I'm thinking, Okay, this is somebody.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Maybe something happened at home. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So I answered, and they said they were somebody from
my bank. And I didn't really have any radar up
as far as is this a scam?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Is it legit?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Because they just got right into it and asked me
to verify something about me. But it wasn't where I
really gave them any information they didn't already have. So
it wasn't a question like, hey, can you give me
your social Security number. It was something vague, and then
they referenced something that I guess just made me feel
like they were legit. And then they mentioned a place
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that we had shopped at in that area, a place
that's what is it called. It's a grocery store chain
that is in Florida, but is not in this area
at least not that I'm aware of. Quinn Dixie Publics.
It was Publics or I think there may be a
Publix here now. But we went to a Publix and
we ended up purchasing groceries for the week that we
were going to be staying in Destined, and they said
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that there was a charge for this, and then there
was a secondary charge where it looks like somebody got
your information from that purchase and they ended up purchasing
four hundred and something dollars worth of merchandise. There was
a secondary purchase that is not yours. We flagged it
for fraud. We want to get this, we want to
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get this straightened out. So I'm thinking, Okay, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I'm so glad you caught it. Oh my goodness, I
owe you one.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So they're they're asking me more information, and my wife
she works in the financial industry, and she's hearing me
answer questions and then she's looking at our account and
she's thinking, the only charge that is there here. I
am like, honey, you won't believe it. They've called, we're
gonna they tried to scam us, but we're going to
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shut it down. And she's she's probably thinking, oh, you idiot,
but she's looking at our bank account and sees that
the only charge was the legit one. There's not one
pending that they've stopped. And I said, well, that doesn't
show that it was there, and they said, well, it's
because we put a stop to it. And my wife,
thinking you know, she tells me, well, if it was
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if it was flagged and only you know, I shouldn't
say only she would know this, but she would know
way more than I do, because she works in the
financial industry, works for a credit union. So she she
tells me, well, if they've stopped the charge that they
have flagged as suspicious, it would still show as either
a flag charge a pending charge. There's no indication on
our bank account that any charge was pending other than
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the legit ones. So it's starting to smell funny. And
then they started asking me if I could give them.
This is where I knew there was a red flag.
But I probably would have been an idiot and given
them what they wanted had it not been for my
wife being real the brains of the family. But they
were wanting me to give them log in information to
my online banking, which if they're who they are, they
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wouldn't need that. They have the ability to do anything
they want. So once once I said that, once, I
said you want my why would you need a log
into my account? And she was like, this has got
to be a scam. It's got to be a scam.
So here I am my wife. My wife says this,
this doesn't this I think I said something like my
wife says, this smells funny.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Why why why would you need this information?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And that's when they hit me with, well, if you
look at the back of your debit card, you'll see
the phone number that we were calling from is the
number that's on the back of your debit card. And
at the time I didn't know what phone spoofing was.
I thought maybe I should apologize because clearly they are
calling from the bank. What in reality they use some
kind of technology where they tricked your phone to thinking
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it was being called from a different number. So sure enough,
while I'm you know, still thinking, man, is this real
or not? Because I don't want somebody to take all
my money. Also I don't want to, you know, give
them the information to where they take my identity and
you know, ruin my life. So as I'm i guess
deciding what I'm going to do, my wife gets an
email from our bank that says, be aware of this
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exact scam. Oh gave us the play by play of
what they're going to do, and they follow it to
a t and they're prepared for questions that you may have.
They've got a response to it. So I remember, you know, thinking, wow,
I was lucky that she was there to help, but
also I almost got got And I think now you
just know that there's so much of that going on,
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people trying to take advantage of those who will be
naive enough. And I shouldn't even call it naive. I mean,
I think most people if you get a phone call
and it says on your phone that the number calling
you is your bank or is somebody else you're gonna
I mean, some people would question if you'd even have
the ability to.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Do that, the phone spoofing.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
But yeah, again, a lot of crooks, a lot of
criminals out there, if they used their savviness for something productive,
they'd be very successful and not you know, be in jail.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
But it's nice that folks like yourself are getting the
word out and we keep going over these stories and
going over and going over them because it registers. But
every time you stop something here, somebody's gonna pop up over.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Here, yep. And it's not going away.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, you're right. There'll always be somebody trying to find
a way to hustle you and scam you. And it's
got to be prepared, gotta be careful, that's for sure.
All Right, let's get another update of traffic in weather.
We'll also revisit this piece of news in regards to
Vince Marrow, the big Dog as they call them, leaving
Mark Stoops's staff to come and join Jeff Brohm's staff. Also,
we've got Rory O'Neil coming up here around eight thirty.
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Scott Fitzgerald will have sports right before that, So stick
around right here on there's radio.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Eight forty W.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's eight seventeen here Kentucky had his morning news with
Nick Coffee on News Radio eight forty whas in about
eight minutes we'll have another update on sports with Scott Fitzgerald. Also,
we'll bring in Roory O'Neal of NBC News to join
us at eight thirty to get the latest on the
protests going on across the country, but mostly in California.
The big story here when it comes to sports is
something you don't often see, and that is a coach
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leaving a good position, seemingly at Kentucky to then take
a somewhat similar position at the rival school, which is Louisville.
So Vince Merrow, I mean he's the associate head coach
for Mark Stoops. Maybe I should say was the associate
head coach, also served as the recruiting coordinator tight ends coach,
a guy that has been believed to be really, really
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impactful in the success that Mark Stoops has had at Kentucky.
He's bailing on Stoops and just heading south to Louisville
and will join Jeff Brahms staff as the GM. That,
of course, does not bode well for Mark Stoops in
a year where it seems as if momentum really really
low schedule is always going to be really tough. They
once again are going to have one of the toughest
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schedules in the country. And as far as this upcoming season,
Marrow leaving right now, unless, of course, that leads to
players who've already signed with Kentucky trying to get out
of their letters of intent because of Marrow leaving, I mean,
and that could happen, But overall, the scenario where Kentucky
this upcoming season becomes a substantially worse football team because
Marro's not there, I don't think. I don't think that's
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the situation here. But the scenario where Stoops can dig
out of this, meaning he can get back to being
a respectable SEC program that is more competitive, that is
consistently going to bowl games, I mean the bar. It's
not as if he's got to take Kentucky to the
playoff or compete at the top of the SEC. He
just needs to get back to where he once was,
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where they were consistently winning enough games to become Bowl eligible.
And that's a lot easier said than done. And right now,
what's needed to make that happen just doesn't seem to
be there. Marrow being a guy who brought in some
of the best talent Stoops had at Kentucky. In fact,
some of the best talent that ever chose to go
to Kentucky and play that guy. Now leaving for your
rival not exactly a great situation. And I think the
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reaction from Kentucky fans, most of them at least from
what I've seen, has been, Yeah, this is just another
disaster situation for Stoops and he probably won't be here
that much longer, and maybe those folks will be right,
But I think you're looking at roughly a thirty seven
and a half million dollar price tag if you were
to get rid of Mark Stoops by firing him, And
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that's a lot of money. And to be fair, how
much goodwill has Mark Stoops actually built up? Let's be honest,
as bad as it is now, and it doesn't look
as if they've got a whole lot of optimism. He
did give them a stretch where he was. I mean,
I know Bear Bryant coach there long ago, but he's
the most winning, best coach they've ever had, and he's
given them, at least in my lifetime, the most sustained
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success they've ever had. Now again, you can't live on
that forever.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
To say, could he keep winning in the new sixteen team?
SEC thought he was before.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Though I don't think so. Here's what really, here's what
seems really obvious. When Texas A and M was interested
in him so much so too, I guess kind of
offer him the job right after he beat Louisville and
Brohm two years ago. That would have been the perfect
timing for both Stoops to realize he's maxed out what
he can do there, go to a new job, a
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better job with better resources.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
A and M.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And then Kentucky I think probably would have been fine
with the split and realized, hey, probably good for us
to go in a different direction.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
He's capped out. But it fell through.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Last year they were really really bad and now it
seems to have only gotten worse. So yeah, it's not
a lot of momentum for the football program in Lexington.
But look, they're gonna have twelve games this season to
prove people wrong and we'll see what Mark Stoops can do.
All right, quick break, we've got traffic and weather coming
your way. Also another update on sports from Scot Fish
gild right here on his radio eight forty Whas eight
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forty six Here Kentucky had his morning news with Nick
Coffee on news Radio eight forty whs. We were about
to hand it off to the fellas Tony and Dwight
here shortly.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But I mean, what do you.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Think the Big Dog heading south on sixty four to
Louisville to join Jeff BROHMS staff.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I mean, when's the first Yachtzi tweet gonna come out?
Because he was the Yatzi guy, right, he would get
a recruit and then all the UK fans would post Yachtzi.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I think, yeah, the program branded it overall, but they
were doing it because the Big Dog was getting the Yatzis.
He was very good at the game of yacht see
getting recruits that were a big deal to Kentucky at
that time. But you bringing that up makes me wonder
will he will he do the rivalry thing, because I
don't think he will unless it's unless it's truly gotten
contentious between him and Stoops to where he wants to.
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He wants to stick it to him. But then again,
I mean, would you be coming to Louisville at this
stage in your career given where Kentucky football is and
needs you? I mean this guy to be a level
of it being personal.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Right, Well, here's what I see. He turned in Belichick.
Here's yeah, here's what I see. I see. And I
keep telling my UK buddies and they don't want to listen.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I'm like, look, we didn't know Bobby Petrino had quit
before that last year, but he essentially quit at the
end of that season before Jurich had gone, and Bobby
was there without Jurids, right, so he had essentially he
wanted his fourteen million and he coached like it, like
I want out. So they went two and ten And
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the most embarrassing Governor's Cup ever was that one at
the end, coached by the because he had already been
let go by the end I don't know two games left.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Or whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
We had a guy out there name Whammy. Uh do
you remember coach Whammy Lorenzo something that had to fill
in for Bobby, and I just remember we've got UK players.
We got in the UKU L game there was a
guy who tried to leave the leave the game.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
The tight end left the game and said blank blank
you and they put him back in the game to
talk to me about it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
What is I said, this. I was like, oh, this
is most embarrassing. Dat Wavey's gonna have to get him
under control. And I'm like, we got a coach named Whammy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So here's what I think is happening. I think Stoops knows. Look,
and he and Big Dog knows.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They also now they're like, look, I'm all I'm getting
off the Titanic because this year is going to be
two and ten. So that that's where they're barreling towards.
Because Stoops knows he wants his buyout and at the
end of the year he'll do that, he'll be rich.
He's still single, right, he's not married, I don't Stoops. Yeah, No,
he's divorced.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
You're right.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
So, yeah, he's single. So he's company got his thirty
million dollars, what he has in the bank. I mean,
what do you spend in Lexington. You can't spend all
thirty million dollars in Lexicon. There was a time where
they wouldn't take his money. I mean, now a little
bit different.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So he'll end up somewhere.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I mean, somebody's going to hire him the second he's
you know that he wants to work.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
The perfect scenario would have been A and M pulling
the trigger and actually giving him the job. And then
they did, and it played out to where we're here,
to where it last year was at his it shouldn't
have been nearly as bad as it actually was. And
again I think people knew even before yesterday's news that that,
I mean, this is a staff that has been very,
very loud even when there wasn't reason to be loud
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about off season chatter about I mean, they put about
a twenty five percent exaggeration on their level of success
every off season about they were coming for the East right,
And it's because the staff, and to be honest, it worked.
The fans got excited. They like that energy, especially coming
from the big Dog. They've been silent, and it's not
just because they're coming off of a bad season. I
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think it's because they they're probably pretty well aware that
things aren't gonna be great this year. But him leaving
has got to be the ultimate sign for Kentucky if
they didn't already have the realization that this thing's run
its course and it won't likely end well. But for
those that just assume, well, they're gonna buy them out,
it's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
The older. I get I'm fifty six years old, so
I'm an old dude, right, so you can be quiet.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Not that old fifty six. But what I've learned is
life is about this simple thing. It's the six inches
between your ears. Life is all about mental You pay
Stoops nine million dollars a year, what motivation? Because we're
all men here, this is a man thing. You pay
a guy nine million dollars, Guys got to get up
in the morning and feel like they got to fight
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for life. I mean, that's why most people's most successful
years is when their kids are born and they start
to grow because they have a responsibility and they're gonna
make this happen for their kids, so they're motivated. It's
all about the headspace. So when you pay him nine
million dollars a year, no in no universe. Again, I
don't want to say he's not worth it because of
the sec money. But just because you have the money
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doesn't mean you need to pay him. If he wants
to go away because you're paying him four and a
half or five, then you need to go get a
new coach, which you should have done. But nine million
dollars a year, what motivation? Do you have to get
up in the morning and get after it.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
But you're clearly gonna make them pay you every dime, right, yes, yeah,
I mean that's like last year because he was seemingly
checked out and it just went bad. I was I
was amazed that some Kentucky fans were of the belief, well,
you know, he's probably just gonna ride off and in
the sun set, you know, he's he knows he's done all.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You think he's gonna walk away from forty million dollars.
Who would know he's getting paid out. Crackthorpe did that
to Jurich after the Rutgers game. He met him in
the in the down the ramp to the bus and said,
here's here's what we want to pay you out, and
this is it. This is your last game. And Crackthorpe
was with his wife, wife was crying, and he handed
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that piece of paper back to Tom and said, you'll
pay me every dollar.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Here's the contract. That's right, Yeah, you'll pay me every dollar.
We both signed this and yeah, and they should. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
What's going to be wild, though, and I want to
talk about this a little bit more tomorrow, is that
you're now going to see just how like the priorities
are going to be exposed for schools as far as
how much they value each program. And if you get
rid of stoops at the time that you've just made
it quite clear you're going to give football less resources
than everybody else in the SEC. So your basketball can
be top doll. That job is going to be attractive
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because it's the SEC. But you're basically telling coaches you're
going to have a tough time winning.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
The football is king in basketball is secondary. And if
you don't realize that your programs both of them.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Why even have a program if you're not going to
at least try to put resources there to be successful.
All right, Tony and do I are up next. We're
back at it tomorrow morning, bright and early right here
on news radio eight forty whis
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
John. It is eight oh four here at Kentucky had
his morning news with Nick Coffee on news radio eight
forty wha s Scott Fitzgered alongside also John Alden and
one of the stories you heard from John Shannon there
is the the rise in scammers that are trying to
let people know, hey, you didn't pay this traffic violation
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you owe for a toll that you you know you
didn't pay for. And I talked about a little bit earlier.
I'm surprised still some that people fall for that, but
maybe I shouldn't be so surprised. There are a lot
of people out there, and all it takes is I mean,
I would say the percentage of people who do fall
for it, even if it's insanely low, that makes it
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worth it for the scammers because they're just sending out
I mean, they're just mass texting probably you know, millions
of people. And it reminded me of that, these scammers,
because I felt bad after I said, who's still.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Falling for that?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Because sometimes you just have to no, no, no, I'll stop
passing judgment because I nearly got got by a scammer
and I the ultimate takeaway for me on this experience
was how good they were at what they were doing
to where you know, And I'm sure maybe some were thinking, well, yeah,
they were good because they saw you as a sucker
and you were the gullible idiot that they thought they
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were going to be able to take advantage of. But
we were on vacation in Destin, Florida. This was probably
about four or five years ago, and we got a
phone I got a phone call on my cell phone
and it was a local number, and it wasn't one
that I had saved in my phone. And because we
were in another state, I mean, I honestly I probably
wouldn't have answered if I was home, But because I
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was away, I'm thinking, Okay, this is somebody.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Maybe something happened at home. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So I answered, and they said they were somebody from
my bank. And I didn't really have any radar up
as far as is this a scam?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Is it legit?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Because they just got right into it and asked me
to verify something about me. But it wasn't where I
really gave them any information they didn't already have. So
it wasn't a question like, hey, can you give me
your social Security number. It was something vague, and then
they referenced something that I guess just made me feel
like they were legit. And then they mentioned a place
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that we had shopped at in that area, a place
that's what is it called. It's a grocery store chain
that is in Florida, but is not in this area
at least not that I'm aware of. Quinn Dixie Publics.
It was Publics or I think there may be a
Publix here now. But we went to a Publix and
we ended up purchasing groceries for the week that we
were going to be staying in Destined, and they said
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that there was a charge for this, and then there
was a secondary charge where it looks like somebody got
your information from that purchase and they ended up purchasing
four hundred and something dollars worth of merchandise. There was
a secondary purchase that is not yours. We flagged it
for fraud. We want to get this, we want to
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get this straightened out. So I'm thinking, Okay, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I'm so glad you caught it. Oh my goodness, I
owe you one.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So they're they're asking me more information, and my wife
she works in the financial industry, and she's hearing me
answer questions and then she's looking at our account and
she's thinking, the only charge that is there here. I
am like, honey, you won't believe it. They've called, we're
gonna they tried to scam us, but we're going to
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shut it down. And she's she's probably thinking, oh, you idiot,
but she's looking at our bank account and sees that
the only charge was the legit one. There's not one
pending that they've stopped. And I said, well, that doesn't
show that it was there, and they said, well, it's
because we put a stop to it. And my wife,
thinking you know, she tells me, well, if it was
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if it was flagged and only you know, I shouldn't
say only she would know this, but she would know
way more than I do, because she works in the
financial industry, works for a credit union. So she she
tells me, well, if they've stopped the charge that they
have flagged as suspicious, it would still show as either
a flag charge a pending charge. There's no indication on
our bank account that any charge was pending other than
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the legit ones. So it's starting to smell funny. And
then they started asking me if I could give them.
This is where I knew there was a red flag.
But I probably would have been an idiot and given
them what they wanted had it not been for my
wife being real the brains of the family. But they
were wanting me to give them log in information to
my online banking, which if they're who they are, they
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wouldn't need that. They have the ability to do anything
they want. So once once I said that, once, I
said you want my why would you need a log
into my account? And she was like, this has got
to be a scam. It's got to be a scam.
So here I am my wife. My wife says this,
this doesn't this I think I said something like my
wife says, this smells funny.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Why why why would you need this information?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And that's when they hit me with, well, if you
look at the back of your debit card, you'll see
the phone number that we were calling from is the
number that's on the back of your debit card. And
at the time I didn't know what phone spoofing was.
I thought maybe I should apologize because clearly they are
calling from the bank. What in reality they use some
kind of technology where they tricked your phone to thinking
(05:08):
it was being called from a different number. So sure enough,
while I'm you know, still thinking, man, is this real
or not? Because I don't want somebody to take all
my money. Also I don't want to, you know, give
them the information to where they take my identity and
you know, ruin my life. So as I'm i guess
deciding what I'm going to do, my wife gets an
email from our bank that says, be aware of this
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exact scam. Oh gave us the play by play of
what they're going to do, and they follow it to
a t and they're prepared for questions that you may have.
They've got a response to it. So I remember, you know, thinking, wow,
I was lucky that she was there to help, but
also I almost got got And I think now you
just know that there's so much of that going on,
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people trying to take advantage of those who will be
naive enough. And I shouldn't even call it naive. I mean,
I think most people if you get a phone call
and it says on your phone that the number calling
you is your bank or is somebody else you're gonna
I mean, some people would question if you'd even have
the ability to.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Do that, the phone spoofing.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
But yeah, again, a lot of crooks, a lot of
criminals out there, if they used their savviness for something productive,
they'd be very successful and not you know, be in jail.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
But it's nice that folks like yourself are getting the
word out and we keep going over these stories and
going over and going over them because it registers. But
every time you stop something here, somebody's gonna pop up over.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Here, yep. And it's not going away.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, you're right. There'll always be somebody trying to find
a way to hustle you and scam you. And it's
got to be prepared, gotta be careful, that's for sure.
All Right, let's get another update of traffic in weather.
We'll also revisit this piece of news in regards to
Vince Marrow, the big Dog as they call them, leaving
Mark Stoops's staff to come and join Jeff Brohm's staff. Also,
we've got Rory O'Neil coming up here around eight thirty.
(06:55):
Scott Fitzgerald will have sports right before that, So stick
around right here on there's radio.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Eight forty W.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's eight seventeen here Kentucky had his morning news with
Nick Coffee on News Radio eight forty whas in about
eight minutes we'll have another update on sports with Scott Fitzgerald. Also,
we'll bring in Roory O'Neal of NBC News to join
us at eight thirty to get the latest on the
protests going on across the country, but mostly in California.
The big story here when it comes to sports is
something you don't often see, and that is a coach
(07:23):
leaving a good position, seemingly at Kentucky to then take
a somewhat similar position at the rival school, which is Louisville.
So Vince Merrow, I mean he's the associate head coach
for Mark Stoops. Maybe I should say was the associate
head coach, also served as the recruiting coordinator tight ends coach,
a guy that has been believed to be really, really
(07:46):
impactful in the success that Mark Stoops has had at Kentucky.
He's bailing on Stoops and just heading south to Louisville
and will join Jeff Brahms staff as the GM. That,
of course, does not bode well for Mark Stoops in
a year where it seems as if momentum really really
low schedule is always going to be really tough. They
once again are going to have one of the toughest
(08:07):
schedules in the country. And as far as this upcoming season,
Marrow leaving right now, unless, of course, that leads to
players who've already signed with Kentucky trying to get out
of their letters of intent because of Marrow leaving, I mean,
and that could happen, But overall, the scenario where Kentucky
this upcoming season becomes a substantially worse football team because
Marro's not there, I don't think. I don't think that's
(08:28):
the situation here. But the scenario where Stoops can dig
out of this, meaning he can get back to being
a respectable SEC program that is more competitive, that is
consistently going to bowl games, I mean the bar. It's
not as if he's got to take Kentucky to the
playoff or compete at the top of the SEC. He
just needs to get back to where he once was,
(08:49):
where they were consistently winning enough games to become Bowl eligible.
And that's a lot easier said than done. And right now,
what's needed to make that happen just doesn't seem to
be there. Marrow being a guy who brought in some
of the best talent Stoops had at Kentucky. In fact,
some of the best talent that ever chose to go
to Kentucky and play that guy. Now leaving for your
rival not exactly a great situation. And I think the
(09:12):
reaction from Kentucky fans, most of them at least from
what I've seen, has been, Yeah, this is just another
disaster situation for Stoops and he probably won't be here
that much longer, and maybe those folks will be right,
But I think you're looking at roughly a thirty seven
and a half million dollar price tag if you were
to get rid of Mark Stoops by firing him, And
(09:33):
that's a lot of money. And to be fair, how
much goodwill has Mark Stoops actually built up? Let's be honest,
as bad as it is now, and it doesn't look
as if they've got a whole lot of optimism. He
did give them a stretch where he was. I mean,
I know Bear Bryant coach there long ago, but he's
the most winning, best coach they've ever had, and he's
given them, at least in my lifetime, the most sustained
(09:56):
success they've ever had. Now again, you can't live on
that forever.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
To say, could he keep winning in the new sixteen team?
SEC thought he was before.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Though I don't think so. Here's what really, here's what
seems really obvious. When Texas A and M was interested
in him so much so too, I guess kind of
offer him the job right after he beat Louisville and
Brohm two years ago. That would have been the perfect
timing for both Stoops to realize he's maxed out what
he can do there, go to a new job, a
(10:25):
better job with better resources.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
A and M.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And then Kentucky I think probably would have been fine
with the split and realized, hey, probably good for us
to go in a different direction.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
He's capped out. But it fell through.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Last year they were really really bad and now it
seems to have only gotten worse. So yeah, it's not
a lot of momentum for the football program in Lexington.
But look, they're gonna have twelve games this season to
prove people wrong and we'll see what Mark Stoops can do.
All right, quick break, we've got traffic and weather coming
your way. Also another update on sports from Scot Fish
gild right here on his radio eight forty Whas eight
(11:00):
forty six Here Kentucky had his morning news with Nick
Coffee on news Radio eight forty whs. We were about
to hand it off to the fellas Tony and Dwight
here shortly.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But I mean, what do you.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Think the Big Dog heading south on sixty four to
Louisville to join Jeff BROHMS staff.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I mean, when's the first Yachtzi tweet gonna come out?
Because he was the Yatzi guy, right, he would get
a recruit and then all the UK fans would post Yachtzi.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I think, yeah, the program branded it overall, but they
were doing it because the Big Dog was getting the Yatzis.
He was very good at the game of yacht see
getting recruits that were a big deal to Kentucky at
that time. But you bringing that up makes me wonder
will he will he do the rivalry thing, because I
don't think he will unless it's unless it's truly gotten
contentious between him and Stoops to where he wants to.
(11:51):
He wants to stick it to him. But then again,
I mean, would you be coming to Louisville at this
stage in your career given where Kentucky football is and
needs you? I mean this guy to be a level
of it being personal.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Right, Well, here's what I see. He turned in Belichick.
Here's yeah, here's what I see. I see. And I
keep telling my UK buddies and they don't want to listen.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I'm like, look, we didn't know Bobby Petrino had quit
before that last year, but he essentially quit at the
end of that season before Jurich had gone, and Bobby
was there without Jurids, right, so he had essentially he
wanted his fourteen million and he coached like it, like
I want out. So they went two and ten And
(12:30):
the most embarrassing Governor's Cup ever was that one at
the end, coached by the because he had already been
let go by the end I don't know two games left.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Or whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
We had a guy out there name Whammy. Uh do
you remember coach Whammy Lorenzo something that had to fill
in for Bobby, and I just remember we've got UK players.
We got in the UKU L game there was a
guy who tried to leave the leave the game.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
The tight end left the game and said blank blank
you and they put him back in the game to
talk to me about it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
What is I said, this. I was like, oh, this
is most embarrassing. Dat Wavey's gonna have to get him
under control. And I'm like, we got a coach named Whammy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So here's what I think is happening. I think Stoops knows. Look,
and he and Big Dog knows.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They also now they're like, look, I'm all I'm getting
off the Titanic because this year is going to be
two and ten. So that that's where they're barreling towards.
Because Stoops knows he wants his buyout and at the
end of the year he'll do that, he'll be rich.
He's still single, right, he's not married, I don't Stoops. Yeah, No,
he's divorced.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
You're right.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
So, yeah, he's single. So he's company got his thirty
million dollars, what he has in the bank. I mean,
what do you spend in Lexington. You can't spend all
thirty million dollars in Lexicon. There was a time where
they wouldn't take his money. I mean, now a little
bit different.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So he'll end up somewhere.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I mean, somebody's going to hire him the second he's
you know that he wants to work.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
The perfect scenario would have been A and M pulling
the trigger and actually giving him the job. And then
they did, and it played out to where we're here,
to where it last year was at his it shouldn't
have been nearly as bad as it actually was. And
again I think people knew even before yesterday's news that that,
I mean, this is a staff that has been very,
very loud even when there wasn't reason to be loud
(14:10):
about off season chatter about I mean, they put about
a twenty five percent exaggeration on their level of success
every off season about they were coming for the East right,
And it's because the staff, and to be honest, it worked.
The fans got excited. They like that energy, especially coming
from the big Dog. They've been silent, and it's not
just because they're coming off of a bad season. I
(14:31):
think it's because they they're probably pretty well aware that
things aren't gonna be great this year. But him leaving
has got to be the ultimate sign for Kentucky if
they didn't already have the realization that this thing's run
its course and it won't likely end well. But for
those that just assume, well, they're gonna buy them out,
it's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
The older. I get I'm fifty six years old, so
I'm an old dude, right, so you can be quiet.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Not that old fifty six. But what I've learned is
life is about this simple thing. It's the six inches
between your ears. Life is all about mental You pay
Stoops nine million dollars a year, what motivation? Because we're
all men here, this is a man thing. You pay
a guy nine million dollars, Guys got to get up
in the morning and feel like they got to fight
(15:17):
for life. I mean, that's why most people's most successful
years is when their kids are born and they start
to grow because they have a responsibility and they're gonna
make this happen for their kids, so they're motivated. It's
all about the headspace. So when you pay him nine
million dollars a year, no in no universe. Again, I
don't want to say he's not worth it because of
the sec money. But just because you have the money
(15:39):
doesn't mean you need to pay him. If he wants
to go away because you're paying him four and a
half or five, then you need to go get a
new coach, which you should have done. But nine million
dollars a year, what motivation? Do you have to get
up in the morning and get after it.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
But you're clearly gonna make them pay you every dime, right, yes, yeah,
I mean that's like last year because he was seemingly
checked out and it just went bad. I was I
was amazed that some Kentucky fans were of the belief, well,
you know, he's probably just gonna ride off and in
the sun set, you know, he's he knows he's done all.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You think he's gonna walk away from forty million dollars.
Who would know he's getting paid out. Crackthorpe did that
to Jurich after the Rutgers game. He met him in
the in the down the ramp to the bus and said,
here's here's what we want to pay you out, and
this is it. This is your last game. And Crackthorpe
was with his wife, wife was crying, and he handed
(16:31):
that piece of paper back to Tom and said, you'll
pay me every dollar.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Here's the contract. That's right, Yeah, you'll pay me every dollar.
We both signed this and yeah, and they should. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
What's going to be wild, though, and I want to
talk about this a little bit more tomorrow, is that
you're now going to see just how like the priorities
are going to be exposed for schools as far as
how much they value each program. And if you get
rid of stoops at the time that you've just made
it quite clear you're going to give football less resources
than everybody else in the SEC. So your basketball can
be top doll. That job is going to be attractive
(17:02):
because it's the SEC. But you're basically telling coaches you're
going to have a tough time winning.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
The football is king in basketball is secondary. And if
you don't realize that your programs both of them.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Why even have a program if you're not going to
at least try to put resources there to be successful.
All right, Tony and do I are up next. We're
back at it tomorrow morning, bright and early right here
on news radio eight forty whis
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