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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Since he three p sixty is back on ESPN fifteen
thirty Cincinnati Sports station.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right now let me hear you good loud, oh world,
oh too awfree, Let's listen to.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Some talk backs. Let listen to the clouds. Get me
a buddant s Bracker Jacks. We hope those other two
diver come back because it's Ruth Foot totally.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
All dophing comes close to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We got hack right Hello the stars over talk back show.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Rights wild radswell.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Right here we go before we get to our talkbacks
for today. I know we're a little bit up against
the clock. I got to thank our friends at Penn
Station here with our number three Austin. A food drop
was made this afternoon. They had Italians. I know they
had a Teriaki. I know they had I'm sure more
like two bags of fries, cookies, lemonade. There is nothing
(01:20):
better than getting ready to do a show starving and
having something like Penn Station come through for it.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
They did today delicious. I went with the Chicken Philly today.
Oh my gosh, it was fantastic.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Sarayaki hits man as do the fries, freshly cut lemonade
and the cookies.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Man, the cookies disappeared very quick.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
It was odd.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I was lucky to get on.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
It was odd that those things went quick. I may
have had two. But thanks to Penn Station for awesome,
awesome hookup today and for everything they do here and
I number three now to talkback. Yes, ok, the I
didn't know if you wanted me to take that. You're
talking back talkbacks of course.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yes, here we go, Blabole.
Speaker 8 (02:15):
Nano Francona and Mowanger, Don Dak and hem Rose and
Camp Winger, William paying Up, Brady Linger, William William William
and Brady Singer.
Speaker 9 (02:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Nice, nicely done.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
T P fifteen awesome elmore Jim from Ross.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
As you know, the Reds are now in possession of
the Ohio Cup for the first time and way too long.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Let the planes fly, release the camp trails of Hopium
over the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Prince the chests.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I'm on skyline.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Chili, make a Red special on a roll, split the dog,
throw the chili cheese.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Oh yeah, let's go. Let's go, some guys, Big Cahouna
in the couch.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Always good to wake up and have the Hile Cup
coming back.
Speaker 10 (03:18):
Do you know when they have it on display anywhere
where you can view it, like the Stanley Cup or anything.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I was just looking ahead. We got green Abbot.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
I think you gotta bring up the young hotshot from
wake Forest and Martinez.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
That's your four for the playoff rotation.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
And I think you move Lodolo and Singer has long
arms to the pen for the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
What do y'all think?
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Yeah, now we're talking about playoffs already. Man, What a
what a difference a few days makes. I just wonder.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
I know they have to play.
Speaker 8 (03:47):
I know they have.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
They have displayed the Ohio Cup in the past.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Well my thought is like, do you bring it on
a media tour, you know with the the uh sure
the supporter shield made its way here right to the studios.
Well all.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
The suckers. I got my phone back from a hick
named Peter.
Speaker 9 (04:06):
Took him around that back and we said see you later.
No one takes my phone, because that's how I listened
to since three sixty. Think of all that I've been missing.
The Reds are runner rule. They're on quite at peace.
They've got so many Wednesday traded one to the A's.
I hope the Reds know when the Irons hot you
strike they got Wait, Miley, all they need is Tony bike.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Come on, fool, come on rapping Ronnie. Congrats to Ronnie
for getting his phone back. Man, that's big time.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Man, Tony Audie.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
What up boys?
Speaker 8 (04:38):
Thousand and seven?
Speaker 11 (04:39):
I'm looking out of this mandatory mini campus that Javier Henderson.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Shows up today?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Uha, the way.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
We can hear him talk?
Speaker 9 (04:46):
Or you know?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
All right?
Speaker 9 (04:49):
Boss?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Have a Tuesday?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Who very good? Hey, fellows down here, pigeon forward?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Well just.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Top jump indoor tramp?
Speaker 12 (05:01):
What a talkback left yesterday about your main prat I
can stand on the skybridge, Annaquista and.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Leave a talkback and it's still an't clear that ball?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Take care of who the core man?
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Skybridge Anakiska champoline park all Kevin's playing all the hits?
Speaker 7 (05:17):
And is that where you're going in July? No? I,
where are you going? We're gonna go to Florida? Dang
Man maybe.
Speaker 12 (05:24):
Filasink Hill here and bomb. Well the Reds did it?
How about that? And I tell you what what Cleveland
was doing with the T shirts last year? Cincinnati is
in Kentucky. Well, first of all, what's wrong with Kentucky.
I know a lot of great people in Kentucky, the
Congressman and Covin in northern Kentucky being a couple of them.
(05:47):
And first of all, Cincinnati is not in Kentucky. Just
shows the education levels.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, figure that out. Way to go. Yeah, well, I'm
telling you, once you get North Alima down.
Speaker 12 (05:59):
The hill, Cincinnati is in Kentucky. Oh wow, Well, I
tell you that one really smarts. How will we ever
recover from that? I got a batter one for you.
Cleveland is in Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Oh, let's go. I'll never forget.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Marty Brennaman once famously said Akron was a nice vacation
from Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Winning the Ohio Companies everything to us in this town.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
It makes our food taste.
Speaker 12 (06:30):
Better, our beer colder, our wives look younger, and our
children seem more obedient. And Tito really is magnificent.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
Hang that faner up.
Speaker 12 (06:41):
He's turned this thing around in four games. And Aldie,
I would love to see pictures of you with hair, Bud,
just get it too.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Let's bring back the good old days.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
Bring them back.
Speaker 12 (06:51):
I think they're here today, good old days.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
They're here to stay.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Tito the Magnificent man, Hey.
Speaker 13 (06:58):
It's God happy talk for Tuesday, Talk Back Nation, and
maybe between Tony Pikes and Bengals and jd Vance's Bengals
and the rest of our Bengals, maybe all three of
them combined.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Will have a winning record this year. Okay, it's possible.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Okay, what's good repping in my city out here in
sunny hot sun? What up, Tony?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
What up?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Body? Good win by the Reds last night? Not drinking
the kool aid. I'm sipping it.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Okay in a row.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Let's get the series win. That's the only thing that
matters to me. McClain. Yo, your bat is not good,
but the defense is great. I love it. Which you
can hit?
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yes, that's w KRP here in the background because I'm
home sick. I can't wait. This has been my theme
SOFCE for a week now.
Speaker 11 (07:42):
Tony.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I don't know, man. I don't think you get off
of way. May I think he could strike you out, brother,
No talk, I think he gots you no.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
By the way.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
One of the low key bestation from last night was
when McLain went behind the runner that when Frehley was
throwing home and the runner had no idea he was
there and cut off main It's actual good defensive play
all around.
Speaker 14 (08:03):
Trey Henderson gives me a headache.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 14 (08:09):
Churchill said about Russia, it was like an enigma wrapped
in a mystery, wrapped in a riddle.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Don't quote me on that.
Speaker 14 (08:18):
Something that's kind of like the Reds. They're like a
box of chocolates. Great Cats by Denzel Washington. I thought
it cleared the Washington. I mean, isn't that a homer
if it cross?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Disappointment Denzel Clark. I think Denzel is making another movie,
but yes, similar.
Speaker 13 (08:37):
Putting the two Joe's in front of talk backs, My goodness,
what does this world come to?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Talkbacks take a back seat to nobody, and I mean nobody.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Except danam And and Burrow. Yeah, I mean those two
are pretty important. Tough and executioner. It's your boy, Alex
and silver toom.
Speaker 15 (08:57):
Last time we were talking about ESPN keeps trying to
call Halliburn the Moment as his nickname, but his nickname
is the Holle Band. Yeah, so last name we said
Mount Rushmore of nicknames, it started with the.
Speaker 9 (09:11):
Like the Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
So I'm gonna go with the truth.
Speaker 15 (09:15):
The answer, Yeah, the dream and the big ticket.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
That's what I was going to say, And I don't
think I can beat any of that. I was going
to say, the big ticket. The answer comes out right away,
kid Gary Gary Clark.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
The problem.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
I think the kids up there for me.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
The kid is up there.
Speaker 10 (09:33):
Hey, guys, talk back matters guy, great show. I just
wanted to talk about the trade deals. So if they
cut germane, they got almost what six million dollars?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
They have the money, So.
Speaker 10 (09:46):
Why don't we just offer Trey a three year deal
or even a two year deal and just add Pratt's
money to that. And I can't see him not sign
him for thirty one million. That way we come up
and you know how fifty of that guaranteed?
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Yeah, it's it's clearly the valuation they have on Trey
Hendrickson because they have the money. They've had the money
all along to do it.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Oh my god, this Schamar Stewart thing.
Speaker 11 (10:17):
You know, normally a rookie, especially a rookie who hasn't
taken a snap in the NFL yet and who wasn't
very productive at all in college.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Normally a guy like that doesn't go scorched.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 11 (10:37):
Yeah, you say the Bengals are having buyers remorse.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Oh boy, oh boy, especially Lucas Patrick's injured right now.
They could have uh, what's that? What was that guy
from from North Dakota that got drafted right after him? Zabel?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Yeah, Gray Abel could have had him Tenny as in
Jorgon of Valley.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So you're about this standors contract, What exactly is it
holding it up?
Speaker 8 (11:00):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I don't get it, Like they can't just like put
new language in it to make it so he's you know,
they can cut him earlier, like all these contracts are
supposedly cut and dry. So I don't get what they
are trying to change.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Their language are trying to change.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Can explain that to us?
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Yeah, So I had Andre Parada on the show last week.
You can find it on the podcast page. He does
a great job explaining it. I'll bring some of that
back for our show tomorrow to talk about it.
Speaker 9 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
But the best way to describe it, from my understanding
and from the report from Pro Football Focus, that it's
around default language in the contract, which means something happens
triggers a default, which means his future guaranteed money isn't protected.
(11:45):
So the deal in the dollar amount that's all slotted.
That's not going to change. It can't change. It's been
collectively bargained. We all know the money that is going
to be made. However, the point is if there is
something like a failed drug test or an arrest or
a suspension or something that triggers a default in his contract,
(12:08):
that means that his money in future years is not guaranteed.
That's the new language that is being put into the
contract that the Bengals haven't done before. All right, this
has been done by other teams. Miles Garrett had it
in his contract. The Eagles have been known to do
this at times. It's also similar to the Carl Pickens
(12:28):
clause in the past, where if you speak ill of
the organization to a point, they will take away your money.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Right.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Yeah, that's why to me, I have a hard time
understanding why something that is in largely in Shamar Stewart's
control he is not okay with. I get that he's
the first person, the guinea pig, a guy that you
know the other players haven't gotten a similar contract, But
to me, it seems like such a minute detail that
it shouldn't have this big of an impass.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
That's why Because I'm confused because I'm looking on X
the back and forth with you and Kelsey Conway, who says,
would you sign a waiver that takes away all your
leverage if you felt your employer wasn't operating in good
faith and potentially risk an injury and the chance to
lose everything you've worked for Like that makes it sound
a heck of a lot more serious.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
It does.
Speaker 9 (13:14):
That.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
That's why I'm a little bit confused, and because and
also my impression is that the injury waiver is signed
and meant to protect you from injury so that it
doesn't affect your contract moving forward. Yeah, maybe I'm misunderstanding it,
and if somebody can better explain it, we'll figure it
out over the next couple of days. But the way
I understand it is it's about the default language. I'm
(13:36):
again going off the Pro Football Talk report, and maybe
things have changed since that report came out, But if
it's off default language, I think it's so so minuscule
of a detail that it's not worth fighting over. And
I think you could use that argument, but for both sides,
the Bengals shouldn't be fighting over it. And Shamar Stewart
shouldn't be fighting over.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
It, right.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
That was our last That's a heck of a lot
of just stuff that it's hard to follow.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
We'll bring back a good chunk of what Andre is
said to have to last week. I think there's a
lot of people with that's saying he made it made sense.
He made it make sense to me, there's always a
possibility that there's way more to it right than.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
And maybe now with this, with him coming out and
openly talking about that, maybe that'll lead to more of
a clearer conversation as to.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
What this is.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
I mean, I already can't wait for work tomorrow, man,
because I'm just a little bit confused this June. I'm
a little bit confused about.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
About this.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Yeah, do you think Moe could help us? MO could
always help us. Next Without Mo, what really is the
point of any of them?
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Let's try to get it from Mo next on ESPN
fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, thanks to Penn Station Cincinnati,
Since he three p sixty is back on ESPN fifteen
thirty Cincinnati Sports station.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right now let me hear you good loud, oh world,
oh too awfree, Let's listen to.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Some talk backs. Let listen to the clouds. Get me
a buddant s Bracker Jacks. We hope those other two
diver come back because it's Ruth Foot totally.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
All dophing comes close to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We got hack right Hello the stars over talk back show.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Rights wild radswell.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Right here we go before we get to our talkbacks
for today. I know we're a little bit up against
the clock. I got to thank our friends at Penn
Station here with our number three Austin. A food drop
was made this afternoon. They had Italians. I know they
had a Teriaki. I know they had I'm sure more
like two bags of fries, cookies, lemonade. There is nothing
(01:20):
better than getting ready to do a show starving and
having something like Penn Station come through for it.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
They did today delicious. I went with the Chicken Philly today.
Oh my gosh, it was fantastic.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Sarayaki hits man as do the fries, freshly cut lemonade
and the cookies.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Man, the cookies disappeared very quick.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
It was odd.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I was lucky to get on.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
It was odd that those things went quick. I may
have had two. But thanks to Penn Station for awesome,
awesome hookup today and for everything they do here and
I number three now to talkback. Yes, ok, the I
didn't know if you wanted me to take that. You're
talking back talkbacks of course.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yes, here we go, Blabole.
Speaker 8 (02:15):
Nano Francona and Mowanger, Don Dak and hem Rose and
Camp Winger, William paying Up, Brady Linger, William William William
and Brady Singer.
Speaker 9 (02:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Nice, nicely done.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
T P fifteen awesome elmore Jim from Ross.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
As you know, the Reds are now in possession of
the Ohio Cup for the first time and way too long.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Let the planes fly, release the camp trails of Hopium
over the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Prince the chests.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I'm on skyline.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Chili, make a Red special on a roll, split the dog,
throw the chili cheese.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Oh yeah, let's go. Let's go, some guys, Big Cahouna
in the couch.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Always good to wake up and have the Hile Cup
coming back.
Speaker 10 (03:18):
Do you know when they have it on display anywhere
where you can view it, like the Stanley Cup or anything.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I was just looking ahead. We got green Abbot.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
I think you gotta bring up the young hotshot from
wake Forest and Martinez.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
That's your four for the playoff rotation.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
And I think you move Lodolo and Singer has long
arms to the pen for the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
What do y'all think?
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Yeah, now we're talking about playoffs already. Man, What a
what a difference a few days makes. I just wonder.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
I know they have to play.
Speaker 8 (03:47):
I know they have.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
They have displayed the Ohio Cup in the past.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Well my thought is like, do you bring it on
a media tour, you know with the the uh sure
the supporter shield made its way here right to the studios.
Well all.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
The suckers. I got my phone back from a hick
named Peter.
Speaker 9 (04:06):
Took him around that back and we said see you later.
No one takes my phone, because that's how I listened
to since three sixty. Think of all that I've been missing.
The Reds are runner rule. They're on quite at peace.
They've got so many Wednesday traded one to the A's.
I hope the Reds know when the Irons hot you
strike they got Wait, Miley, all they need is Tony bike.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Come on, fool, come on rapping Ronnie. Congrats to Ronnie
for getting his phone back. Man, that's big time.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Man, Tony Audie.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
What up boys?
Speaker 8 (04:38):
Thousand and seven?
Speaker 11 (04:39):
I'm looking out of this mandatory mini campus that Javier Henderson.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Shows up today?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Uha, the way.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
We can hear him talk?
Speaker 9 (04:46):
Or you know?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
All right?
Speaker 9 (04:49):
Boss?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Have a Tuesday?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Who very good? Hey, fellows down here, pigeon forward?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Well just.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Top jump indoor tramp?
Speaker 12 (05:01):
What a talkback left yesterday about your main prat I
can stand on the skybridge, Annaquista and.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Leave a talkback and it's still an't clear that ball?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Take care of who the core man?
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Skybridge Anakiska champoline park all Kevin's playing all the hits?
Speaker 7 (05:17):
And is that where you're going in July? No? I,
where are you going? We're gonna go to Florida? Dang
Man maybe.
Speaker 12 (05:24):
Filasink Hill here and bomb. Well the Reds did it?
How about that? And I tell you what what Cleveland
was doing with the T shirts last year? Cincinnati is
in Kentucky. Well, first of all, what's wrong with Kentucky.
I know a lot of great people in Kentucky, the
Congressman and Covin in northern Kentucky being a couple of them.
(05:47):
And first of all, Cincinnati is not in Kentucky. Just
shows the education levels.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, figure that out. Way to go. Yeah, well, I'm
telling you, once you get North Alima down.
Speaker 12 (05:59):
The hill, Cincinnati is in Kentucky. Oh wow, Well, I
tell you that one really smarts. How will we ever
recover from that? I got a batter one for you.
Cleveland is in Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Oh, let's go. I'll never forget.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Marty Brennaman once famously said Akron was a nice vacation
from Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Winning the Ohio Companies everything to us in this town.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
It makes our food taste.
Speaker 12 (06:30):
Better, our beer colder, our wives look younger, and our
children seem more obedient. And Tito really is magnificent.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
Hang that faner up.
Speaker 12 (06:41):
He's turned this thing around in four games. And Aldie,
I would love to see pictures of you with hair, Bud,
just get it too.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Let's bring back the good old days.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
Bring them back.
Speaker 12 (06:51):
I think they're here today, good old days.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
They're here to stay.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Tito the Magnificent man, Hey.
Speaker 13 (06:58):
It's God happy talk for Tuesday, Talk Back Nation, and
maybe between Tony Pikes and Bengals and jd Vance's Bengals
and the rest of our Bengals, maybe all three of
them combined.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Will have a winning record this year. Okay, it's possible.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Okay, what's good repping in my city out here in
sunny hot sun? What up, Tony?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
What up?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Body? Good win by the Reds last night? Not drinking
the kool aid. I'm sipping it.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Okay in a row.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Let's get the series win. That's the only thing that
matters to me. McClain. Yo, your bat is not good,
but the defense is great. I love it. Which you
can hit?
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yes, that's w KRP here in the background because I'm
home sick. I can't wait. This has been my theme
SOFCE for a week now.
Speaker 11 (07:42):
Tony.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I don't know, man. I don't think you get off
of way. May I think he could strike you out, brother,
No talk, I think he gots you no.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
By the way.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
One of the low key bestation from last night was
when McLain went behind the runner that when Frehley was
throwing home and the runner had no idea he was
there and cut off main It's actual good defensive play
all around.
Speaker 14 (08:03):
Trey Henderson gives me a headache.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 14 (08:09):
Churchill said about Russia, it was like an enigma wrapped
in a mystery, wrapped in a riddle.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Don't quote me on that.
Speaker 14 (08:18):
Something that's kind of like the Reds. They're like a
box of chocolates. Great Cats by Denzel Washington. I thought
it cleared the Washington. I mean, isn't that a homer
if it cross?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Disappointment Denzel Clark. I think Denzel is making another movie,
but yes, similar.
Speaker 13 (08:37):
Putting the two Joe's in front of talk backs, My goodness,
what does this world come to?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Talkbacks take a back seat to nobody, and I mean nobody.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Except danam And and Burrow. Yeah, I mean those two
are pretty important. Tough and executioner. It's your boy, Alex
and silver toom.
Speaker 15 (08:57):
Last time we were talking about ESPN keeps trying to
call Halliburn the Moment as his nickname, but his nickname
is the Holle Band. Yeah, so last name we said
Mount Rushmore of nicknames, it started with the.
Speaker 9 (09:11):
Like the Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
So I'm gonna go with the truth.
Speaker 15 (09:15):
The answer, Yeah, the dream and the big ticket.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
That's what I was going to say, And I don't
think I can beat any of that. I was going
to say, the big ticket. The answer comes out right away,
kid Gary Gary Clark.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
The problem.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
I think the kids up there for me.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
The kid is up there.
Speaker 10 (09:33):
Hey, guys, talk back matters guy, great show. I just
wanted to talk about the trade deals. So if they
cut germane, they got almost what six million dollars?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
They have the money, So.
Speaker 10 (09:46):
Why don't we just offer Trey a three year deal
or even a two year deal and just add Pratt's
money to that. And I can't see him not sign
him for thirty one million. That way we come up
and you know how fifty of that guaranteed?
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Yeah, it's it's clearly the valuation they have on Trey
Hendrickson because they have the money. They've had the money
all along to do it.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Oh my god, this Schamar Stewart thing.
Speaker 11 (10:17):
You know, normally a rookie, especially a rookie who hasn't
taken a snap in the NFL yet and who wasn't
very productive at all in college.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Normally a guy like that doesn't go scorched.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 11 (10:37):
Yeah, you say the Bengals are having buyers remorse.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Oh boy, oh boy, especially Lucas Patrick's injured right now.
They could have uh, what's that? What was that guy
from from North Dakota that got drafted right after him? Zabel?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Yeah, Gray Abel could have had him Tenny as in
Jorgon of Valley.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So you're about this standors contract, What exactly is it
holding it up?
Speaker 8 (11:00):
Like?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I don't get it, Like they can't just like put
new language in it to make it so he's you know,
they can cut him earlier, like all these contracts are
supposedly cut and dry. So I don't get what they
are trying to change.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Their language are trying to change.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Can explain that to us?
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Yeah, So I had Andre Parada on the show last week.
You can find it on the podcast page. He does
a great job explaining it. I'll bring some of that
back for our show tomorrow to talk about it.
Speaker 9 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
But the best way to describe it, from my understanding
and from the report from Pro Football Focus, that it's
around default language in the contract, which means something happens
triggers a default, which means his future guaranteed money isn't protected.
(11:45):
So the deal in the dollar amount that's all slotted.
That's not going to change. It can't change. It's been
collectively bargained. We all know the money that is going
to be made. However, the point is if there is
something like a failed drug test or an arrest or
a suspension or something that triggers a default in his contract,
(12:08):
that means that his money in future years is not guaranteed.
That's the new language that is being put into the
contract that the Bengals haven't done before. All right, this
has been done by other teams. Miles Garrett had it
in his contract. The Eagles have been known to do
this at times. It's also similar to the Carl Pickens
(12:28):
clause in the past, where if you speak ill of
the organization to a point, they will take away your money.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Right.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Yeah, that's why to me, I have a hard time
understanding why something that is in largely in Shamar Stewart's
control he is not okay with. I get that he's
the first person, the guinea pig, a guy that you
know the other players haven't gotten a similar contract, But
to me, it seems like such a minute detail that
it shouldn't have this big of an impass.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
That's why Because I'm confused because I'm looking on X
the back and forth with you and Kelsey Conway, who says,
would you sign a waiver that takes away all your
leverage if you felt your employer wasn't operating in good
faith and potentially risk an injury and the chance to
lose everything you've worked for Like that makes it sound
a heck of a lot more serious.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
It does.
Speaker 9 (13:14):
That.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
That's why I'm a little bit confused, and because and
also my impression is that the injury waiver is signed
and meant to protect you from injury so that it
doesn't affect your contract moving forward. Yeah, maybe I'm misunderstanding it,
and if somebody can better explain it, we'll figure it
out over the next couple of days. But the way
I understand it is it's about the default language. I'm
(13:36):
again going off the Pro Football Talk report, and maybe
things have changed since that report came out, But if
it's off default language, I think it's so so minuscule
of a detail that it's not worth fighting over. And
I think you could use that argument, but for both sides,
the Bengals shouldn't be fighting over it. And Shamar Stewart
shouldn't be fighting over.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
It, right.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
That was our last That's a heck of a lot
of just stuff that it's hard to follow.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
We'll bring back a good chunk of what Andre is
said to have to last week. I think there's a
lot of people with that's saying he made it made sense.
He made it make sense to me, there's always a
possibility that there's way more to it right than.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
And maybe now with this, with him coming out and
openly talking about that, maybe that'll lead to more of
a clearer conversation as to.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
What this is.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
I mean, I already can't wait for work tomorrow, man,
because I'm just a little bit confused this June. I'm
a little bit confused about.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
About this.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Yeah, do you think Moe could help us? MO could
always help us. Next Without Mo, what really is the
point of any of them?
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Let's try to get it from Mo next on ESPN
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