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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
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Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, let's do that Cincy shirts baby, Yeah, disregard that's
from the wrong day.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Okay, Shamar just walked out on his team in practice
this and everybody will say, well, he.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Hasn't signed the contract yet, it's not his team yet,
he's not an employee yet.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I don't care.
Speaker 7 (01:11):
I mean, dude, you're you're walking away from life changing
money just to prove a point.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Sign it, get your ten million dollars signing bonus, and
get the.
Speaker 8 (01:19):
Hell on the field and show everybody you're a good teammate.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
You don't have any pelts on the wall to back up.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
You have no collateral except your potential, and your attitude
is not helping you at all.
Speaker 9 (01:28):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, I don't think as much of him leaving early
was anything excepted. It does avoid a little bit of
a distraction. But again, as we talked about earlier, It
also opens the door for a lot of national outlets
to pick this up and run with It's up.
Speaker 10 (01:44):
Guys, bi Kahunik watching the field of study in stats,
did you know that Burrow had the longest run for
scrimmage at forty nine yards last year? That can't happen again.
Chase Brown's got too much home run ability. We got
a getting over sixty sixty five yards Tony, Now hear
me out.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Did you ever run power toss quarterback lead? I think
they need to start looking at that.
Speaker 11 (02:03):
No.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
I did it in high school. I would get out
there and do blocking drills.
Speaker 10 (02:07):
Power tossed back and that quarterback leads to get the
extra blocker out there.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
So now your quarterback is not wasted his handing the ball.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm telling you it's not. It wasn't strong enough. That's
one thing you never wanted. It's definitely the Bengals don't
need to do that. But yeah, that is a fun
fact from last year. Bro had the longest run from
scrimmage for the Bengals. It was that forty nine yard
touchdown run against the Giants. I'm not looking at rubber
(02:35):
and kind of a right before, but pretty good. Your
smother All right man, thank you Carl.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Hey, what's up, guys. This tine from the Jamar Stewart.
I had you back yesterday and now today. You know,
voted on the table in the words of the song.
Got learned when to hold them and learn when the
fun and you done folded out already out of mindatory
ltas and you only have a contract yet, so now
you're showing you a true colors. So I hope you
(03:09):
understand and learn from this mistake that you done did.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Oh there you go. Oh hey, it's Jim and Milford.
Speaker 12 (03:21):
Yeah you know where. Yeah, you haven't heard from me
in a while because I fell down. I took a
really bad fall down some steps and caused a hematoma
in my backside and I had to have surgery and everything.
It was in the hospital for four days. What personal
injury have you done that's kept you in the hospital
(03:44):
for a couple of days?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, text there.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I've never had a prolonged hospital stay, just some surgeries
from sports.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah. I think the longest I was ever in the
hospital I had a broken arm that was only a
couple hours.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Tody Elson, Jack, Everton College Hill, Jack, I think there's
a lot of fault on both sides of the Shamar
Stewart contract situation. But in the same breath, he was
picked as a project. He needs these reps, and I
see why he's mad that he's getting this language when
he was picked before our last three first rounders. Honestly,
he needs the reps. Just get him in the building,
get him signed, and then deal with this catching up
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to the rest of the league with the language. When
we go to the AFC Championship for Super Bowl again
this year, if that's the expectation, then we should expect
to have a late pick and that's when we should
finally catch up with the rest of the league.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
That's fine, I understand that. With that.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
Hello, this is former president old again. Well well, I
was going to say something, but it completely left me.
Oh no, no, no, I know what it was.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (04:42):
This whole Shamir Stewart thing is proving the Bengals to
be wise, believe it or not, especially in requiring the
qualifier about a player bad mouthing the organization and public.
In fact, I think from now on, I'm gonna start
calling Shamir mal as in mal content.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Kyle Stewart.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
There you go now, and the.
Speaker 13 (05:04):
OSCAR for Best Coach Speaker of the Year goes to
Zach Taylor Bengal.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
He's had a lot of practice.
Speaker 13 (05:16):
Oh yeah, interesting, he said they had a great spring,
the Bengals. Well, I mean it could have been better
if Stuart Henderson were there. Yeah, they Stuart Henderson have
a different definition of mandatory than some of us.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 13 (05:33):
The Pacers are relentless. They just keep coming at you.
I'm surprised OKC is still a two to one favorite.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I know, I am just insane. I am too. I've
heard Brian Windhorse say something interesting too. If you kind
of look back late in that game, Pacers are all
standing up ready to go, and during a free throw
and all the OKC players hands on knees bent over,
looks like the Pacers might be better shape.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I thought it was interesting early in the series that
it was OKC that has like adjusted themselves defensively for
what Indy does, and it's like, you're the best team
in the regular season. Do what you do make the
other team adjust to you. I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I say they should get trade done, but whatever, what
really bothers me? Is Canty and the national media going off,
what's the truth? Are they trying to reset change language
or not?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Everyday guy, that's essentially how many licks does it take
to get to the center of a tutsi pop?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
No one really knows. At the end of the day,
I haven't had a Tutsi pop in a while.
Speaker 14 (06:49):
Guess who's pitching for the Tiger today and the Reds
we'll not fac him this weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Miss starting pitchers so far this year. Yeah, that's good
living of the old Red Legs. Tigers unfortunately, and one
of their best young pitchers as to have Tommy john too.
So Sunday, however, Father's Day could be a bloodbath.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
The reason I say that is that the Tigers are
one of, if not the best teams in bad hitting
left handed pitching, and it looks like Wade Miley's going
to be pitching that day. TP fifteen mount healthy, What
up dough.
Speaker 15 (07:27):
We're going to refer to this as the Burton Calls,
because I think the Bengals front office sees all the
drama He's calls and wants protection from that and mispronouncing
team names and forgetting stuff only gets worse with age.
Just wait till you flick the light for the room
(07:50):
and try to flush a toilet.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Oh well, oh boy, all right, I had a situation
earlier where I had toilet involved. It's the beauty your radio.
You guys didn't even know. No one knows. Yeah, I
still don't remember what I was going to say an
hour ago. Tell us it's Adam, Hey, Adam.
Speaker 16 (08:11):
And regarding the Bengals contracts, Okay, I thought been in
this new Bengals era where they're a good team and
do things differently, that Katie was supposed to be in control,
that Katie was supposed to be doing all this stuff.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
This sounds like the same old Mike Brown ps Actually, Mike,
question to.
Speaker 16 (08:30):
You is who is still controlling the purse strings?
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Is it Mike? Isn't Katie? Is it by committee?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Kaya? Katie negotiates the contracts. Katie has negotiated the contracts
for a long time, fifteen twenty years. Katie is the
primary contract negotiators.
Speaker 17 (08:52):
Jack over Cochil, sorry, double dip. I would love to
just sit down and be able to have an opportunity
of conversation with the Blackburns. I don't want to sell
them personally. I'm all for insulting people professionally, though, I
just really want to know do they not have any
interpersonal skills or mestal intelligence, because like we are always
in these disputes of contracts and players feeling disrespected. I
(09:14):
just want to see how they interact with people.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Good question. In my limited interactions with them, they've been
lovely people, Like seriously, I just I've heard the stories
of the way players feel like they're treated players, families
feel like they're treated other you know, people that have
worked for the organization don't always share that. In my
limited time around them, they've been lovely.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
As someone who was passed on by the organization multiple times,
I just refer to to keep to myself here.
Speaker 18 (09:45):
Yeah, Hey, it's God, I got I've got a perfect
solution for the bengals defensive problems.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
What is it?
Speaker 18 (09:52):
Get rid of Trey Henderson and Shamars Tourt, have Tony
Pike and Austin Elmore take their.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Place, Oh, and have bad decision.
Speaker 18 (10:01):
James Rapine and Snop Bubbles do since he three.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Now that would be a duo can image as chickster
a little bit of a little bit of a stunt game. Listen,
I don't think I have the athletic profile to be
an edge rusher, run stopper. I could be a nose
Yeah yeah, I could just fall down slide, you could
slot out sometimes. I don't think I could go outside.
Speaker 18 (10:26):
Oh yeah, I'm paid Tony and Austin a million ee
to be on the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I'd take a mill nows a little bit more. If
the Bengals said, we'll give you a million dollars, but
you can't screw up for the next four years, I
would still probably take a million dollars. Yeah, you really
have to trust yoursell. Embarrassing.
Speaker 11 (10:46):
What's good keeps out here in sunny hot zone? What
up Tony?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
What upbou Man? I feel bad for that, I really do.
Speaker 11 (10:54):
I mean, he already on a hot seat. You just
making any worse. The front office don't care, man, they
don't care. Take that clause about that contract, man, and
focus on winning. Get a brother what he need, Let's go.
It's so embarrassing. I turn on the TV, the national media.
Everybody's eating the Bengals alive as of ownership. Just embarrassing. Man,
Get your foot out so you know what and pay him.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Ronnie Ronn represent the Natty.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Bouncing to you guys and your guests.
Speaker 9 (11:23):
The more I agree with the Bengals and the contract
negotiations with Samore Stewart, I don't understand why this one
individual would hold up the Bengals progressing and using the
same contract language that every other team in the NFL
is using. If not now, then win next year's first
round Pickston He's the same excuse the year for that,
(11:44):
the year for that. It will all be the same
if they don't get it in there.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
No, it's not every team in the NFL that use it.
There are some teams in the NFL use it. And
if you are open about that, and I don't know
if the Bengals were, but when you meet with these
individuals or you bring them in in draft meetings and
say this is now how we're handling our draft or
our contracts, you get a little bit more of an
understanding of it. So I don't think it would be
the same situation.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I I do think that teams would put anybody they
draft would push back on this if they were the
first person to get that in their deal, don't you. Yeah,
But that's why you got to you got to be
open at the start. You got to communicate that right now,
but get going.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So maybe what if they did? It sounds like from
Shamar's side that this is all.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
But does that change Like if you tell them during
the draft visit, this is what we want to do,
does that change anything?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It should because the way that they're talking about it,
they're blindsided by it.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
If they had told Joe Burrow this is what we're
going to do, and he says I don't want that,
would they have not drafted number one overall? Probably not?
There's no way I disagree with that. Well, how did
Eli Manning situation play out? Oh? That was about there
was that about money or about an inept franchise altogether?
Could have been the franchise, but he he essentially saily
his dad more than anything, don't draft me, and they didn't.
Speaker 19 (13:00):
Yeah, the Bengals are more interested in winning an argument
instead of winning games. That quote just says it all
about Ebenezer Brown and his daughter's running that franchise.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, I'm tired of Schamar and uh Trey garbage going on. Okay,
I care less if they played probably need them though,
but whatever. Uh looks like the Reds are avoid Scooball
he's pitching today.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
I think the Reds are gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Possibly sweep the Times. Definitely, two out of three.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Okay, give me what you're drinking.
Speaker 20 (13:41):
Tony Austin George in the valley. So George still on side,
just started listening. But how can you be this guy?
I mean, so, let's say he goes back into the
draft next year. Let's say they don't sign him. I
mean that when he said that, though, you know what's up?
Speaker 6 (13:57):
So what that kind of scares me.
Speaker 20 (13:58):
They're not gonna They're not gonna do with So what
happens when he goes back in the jack Do you
still think he's gonna be a top seventeen big I
don't think. So, he's gonna lose a ton of money,
not just.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
On he has to sign.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
What show is he listening to? I don't know, but
I think he goes back in the draft. What if
the Bengals take him again? They can't. That's the whole thing.
Oh that's the rule, they can't. I'm out George from
the I don't know. I can't speak for Tony, but
from the very beginning I've been on the Bengals side
on this. I win the players.
Speaker 21 (14:26):
Okay, hey, guys, it seems to me that the players
are both kind of silly in this one their parts
both though, Drey and Shamar, and Shamar has an issue
with the Clops about his behavior action whatever they got
in there. I mean, we don't know the details, but
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if it's not a problem for him and behave and
not have an issue, then it's on the contract, Bark
Craig is I mean, I don't know. Does he want
just the one big year or does he want four
small years?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, it's it's not just one offs. It's year after
year that players do have contract dispute or contract problems,
and it happens across the league. But it does seem
to to rear it ugly had more than you'd.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Like it to here. The Bengals have almost never in
their history guaranteed money past the first year. They have
slowly started to change on that. T Higgins, Jamar Chase,
Joe Burrow, they got guaranteed money beyond year one. Those
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contracts apparently do not feature these clauses, which means there's
no default language that those guys could default on and
ruin their guarantees. When we've talked about those contracts being
negotiated in the past. When we talk about guaranteed money
past year one, this is the type of stuff that
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gets negotiated, the details to get hammered out. Those three
contracts don't have default language for guaranteed money past year
one or any of the future years. Those three, however,
are proven NFL commodities among the best at their position,
who have a prior relationship with the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Trice a proven commodity. I agree with that best of
one of the best at his position.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
But I don't think the tray thing comes down to
guaranteed money. I think it comes down to length and
total money. I don't think it has I don't think
guarantees are the issue with Trey. So I can understand
where Schamar's like, wait a minute, you just did those
three big contracts and they didn't have it. But the
Bengals are like, yeah, you're not them. Those guys are
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really good.
Speaker 22 (16:41):
Right when I was drafted, I Mike Brown, I asked
my agent, what does this mean a my starter? Will
I be rich?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Here's what he said to me.
Speaker 22 (17:00):
He Shamar Samar, whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Will be will be.
Speaker 22 (17:07):
The money is not there, and he Chamar.
Speaker 12 (17:17):
Yeah, it just hurt God. Leave a talk about God.
Where were you when I was falling down the steps?
You're not at least I didn't break anything. Yeah, I
mean you're still with itbut be thankful.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 14 (17:30):
Have you ever heard of a player and negotiations say oh,
I've been treated so well on any team in the NFL.
I think this is just always a negotiating factor. They
try to I guess OUs their employer and publicly and
to try to get some leverts.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It's sad. I agree. I think you look at the
Trace situation and the fact that they are negotiating in
the media and they are trying and leaving mini camp
and getting the national headlines. All that is amployed to
gain leverage and they don't have it. And they also
probably don't know because when you look at the list
of players that these guys represent his agency, none of
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them are former Bengals. These guys probably have no idea
how the Bengals really operate, and so because of that
they think that they can pull some something like this
and that will give them leverage. Bengals don't care. I
promise you they don't.
Speaker 16 (18:29):
Actually, I didn't think anyone honor to contract anymore.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
And I think people in sports make way too much money,
especially when they're amateurs.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
You make money for other people, they give you some.
It's pretty good. That was our last one. All right,
Austin's got a question today. That's right, ticket giveaway? Are
we gonna do both again? I think we're gonna unlock
the phone lines at five one, three, seven, nine, fifteen thirty,
and we're gonna fill up the lines and we're gonna
allow each caller to choose, or we're gonna allow the
(19:08):
How do we want to do this last year or
last year? I think my brain there's something going on too. One.
Yesterday we allowed the caller to select what they were
playing for. Yes, do you want to do that again? Sure? Okay,
five three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. You have the
(19:30):
option for Big Three tickets coming up in July or
FIFA Club World Cup tickets coming up this Wednesday night
at TQL Stadium. So we will do how do we
(19:51):
give away two two percents of tickets?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well, if you remember yesterday, yeah, yesterday we had the
sixth overall caller, yes, get to pick right which tickets
they they would win and then the other okay, yes,
and then the other caller would answer a question by default.
How about today the fifth caller?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
What if we default? Oh boy? Okay, So the fifth
caller today gets to choose what tickets they want ye,
and the other next caller will have to answer a
trivia question.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yes, five, one, thirty, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty also
get the trivia question, Uh, that's next.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
All right, talkbacks. Thank you to our friends at Cincy'
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and every week with a gift card to give away
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throughout the week. Let's get into today's.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, let's do that Cincy shirts baby, Yeah, disregard that's
from the wrong day.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Okay, Shamar just walked out on his team in practice
this and everybody will say, well, he.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Hasn't signed the contract yet, it's not his team yet,
he's not an employee yet.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I don't care.
Speaker 7 (01:11):
I mean, dude, you're you're walking away from life changing
money just to prove a point.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Sign it, get your ten million dollars signing bonus, and
get the.
Speaker 8 (01:19):
Hell on the field and show everybody you're a good teammate.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
You don't have any pelts on the wall to back up.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
You have no collateral except your potential, and your attitude
is not helping you at all.
Speaker 9 (01:28):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, I don't think as much of him leaving early
was anything excepted. It does avoid a little bit of
a distraction. But again, as we talked about earlier, It
also opens the door for a lot of national outlets
to pick this up and run with It's up.
Speaker 10 (01:44):
Guys, bi Kahunik watching the field of study in stats,
did you know that Burrow had the longest run for
scrimmage at forty nine yards last year? That can't happen again.
Chase Brown's got too much home run ability. We got
a getting over sixty sixty five yards Tony, Now hear
me out.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Did you ever run power toss quarterback lead? I think
they need to start looking at that.
Speaker 11 (02:03):
No.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
I did it in high school. I would get out
there and do blocking drills.
Speaker 10 (02:07):
Power tossed back and that quarterback leads to get the
extra blocker out there.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
So now your quarterback is not wasted his handing the ball.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm telling you it's not. It wasn't strong enough. That's
one thing you never wanted. It's definitely the Bengals don't
need to do that. But yeah, that is a fun
fact from last year. Bro had the longest run from
scrimmage for the Bengals. It was that forty nine yard
touchdown run against the Giants. I'm not looking at rubber
(02:35):
and kind of a right before, but pretty good. Your
smother All right man, thank you Carl.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Hey, what's up, guys. This tine from the Jamar Stewart.
I had you back yesterday and now today. You know,
voted on the table in the words of the song.
Got learned when to hold them and learn when the
fun and you done folded out already out of mindatory
ltas and you only have a contract yet, so now
you're showing you a true colors. So I hope you
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understand and learn from this mistake that you done did.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Oh there you go. Oh hey, it's Jim and Milford.
Speaker 12 (03:21):
Yeah you know where. Yeah, you haven't heard from me
in a while because I fell down. I took a
really bad fall down some steps and caused a hematoma
in my backside and I had to have surgery and everything.
It was in the hospital for four days. What personal
injury have you done that's kept you in the hospital
(03:44):
for a couple of days?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, text there.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I've never had a prolonged hospital stay, just some surgeries
from sports.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah. I think the longest I was ever in the
hospital I had a broken arm that was only a
couple hours.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Tody Elson, Jack, Everton College Hill, Jack, I think there's
a lot of fault on both sides of the Shamar
Stewart contract situation. But in the same breath, he was
picked as a project. He needs these reps, and I
see why he's mad that he's getting this language when
he was picked before our last three first rounders. Honestly,
he needs the reps. Just get him in the building,
get him signed, and then deal with this catching up
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to the rest of the league with the language. When
we go to the AFC Championship for Super Bowl again
this year, if that's the expectation, then we should expect
to have a late pick and that's when we should
finally catch up with the rest of the league.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
That's fine, I understand that. With that.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
Hello, this is former president old again. Well well, I
was going to say something, but it completely left me.
Oh no, no, no, I know what it was.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (04:42):
This whole Shamir Stewart thing is proving the Bengals to
be wise, believe it or not, especially in requiring the
qualifier about a player bad mouthing the organization and public.
In fact, I think from now on, I'm gonna start
calling Shamir mal as in mal content.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Kyle Stewart.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
There you go now, and the.
Speaker 13 (05:04):
OSCAR for Best Coach Speaker of the Year goes to
Zach Taylor Bengal.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
He's had a lot of practice.
Speaker 13 (05:16):
Oh yeah, interesting, he said they had a great spring,
the Bengals. Well, I mean it could have been better
if Stuart Henderson were there. Yeah, they Stuart Henderson have
a different definition of mandatory than some of us.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 13 (05:33):
The Pacers are relentless. They just keep coming at you.
I'm surprised OKC is still a two to one favorite.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I know, I am just insane. I am too. I've
heard Brian Windhorse say something interesting too. If you kind
of look back late in that game, Pacers are all
standing up ready to go, and during a free throw
and all the OKC players hands on knees bent over,
looks like the Pacers might be better shape.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I thought it was interesting early in the series that
it was OKC that has like adjusted themselves defensively for
what Indy does, and it's like, you're the best team
in the regular season. Do what you do make the
other team adjust to you. I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I say they should get trade done, but whatever, what
really bothers me? Is Canty and the national media going off,
what's the truth? Are they trying to reset change language
or not?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Everyday guy, that's essentially how many licks does it take
to get to the center of a tutsi pop?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
No one really knows. At the end of the day,
I haven't had a Tutsi pop in a while.
Speaker 14 (06:49):
Guess who's pitching for the Tiger today and the Reds
we'll not fac him this weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Miss starting pitchers so far this year. Yeah, that's good
living of the old Red Legs. Tigers unfortunately, and one
of their best young pitchers as to have Tommy john too.
So Sunday, however, Father's Day could be a bloodbath.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
The reason I say that is that the Tigers are
one of, if not the best teams in bad hitting
left handed pitching, and it looks like Wade Miley's going
to be pitching that day. TP fifteen mount healthy, What
up dough.
Speaker 15 (07:27):
We're going to refer to this as the Burton Calls,
because I think the Bengals front office sees all the
drama He's calls and wants protection from that and mispronouncing
team names and forgetting stuff only gets worse with age.
Just wait till you flick the light for the room
(07:50):
and try to flush a toilet.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Oh well, oh boy, all right, I had a situation
earlier where I had toilet involved. It's the beauty your radio.
You guys didn't even know. No one knows. Yeah, I
still don't remember what I was going to say an
hour ago. Tell us it's Adam, Hey, Adam.
Speaker 16 (08:11):
And regarding the Bengals contracts, Okay, I thought been in
this new Bengals era where they're a good team and
do things differently, that Katie was supposed to be in control,
that Katie was supposed to be doing all this stuff.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
This sounds like the same old Mike Brown ps Actually, Mike,
question to.
Speaker 16 (08:30):
You is who is still controlling the purse strings?
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Is it Mike? Isn't Katie? Is it by committee?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Kaya? Katie negotiates the contracts. Katie has negotiated the contracts
for a long time, fifteen twenty years. Katie is the
primary contract negotiators.
Speaker 17 (08:52):
Jack over Cochil, sorry, double dip. I would love to
just sit down and be able to have an opportunity
of conversation with the Blackburns. I don't want to sell
them personally. I'm all for insulting people professionally, though, I
just really want to know do they not have any
interpersonal skills or mestal intelligence, because like we are always
in these disputes of contracts and players feeling disrespected. I
(09:14):
just want to see how they interact with people.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Good question. In my limited interactions with them, they've been
lovely people, Like seriously, I just I've heard the stories
of the way players feel like they're treated players, families
feel like they're treated other you know, people that have
worked for the organization don't always share that. In my
limited time around them, they've been lovely.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
As someone who was passed on by the organization multiple times,
I just refer to to keep to myself here.
Speaker 18 (09:45):
Yeah, Hey, it's God, I got I've got a perfect
solution for the bengals defensive problems.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
What is it?
Speaker 18 (09:52):
Get rid of Trey Henderson and Shamars Tourt, have Tony
Pike and Austin Elmore take their.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Place, Oh, and have bad decision.
Speaker 18 (10:01):
James Rapine and Snop Bubbles do since he three.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Now that would be a duo can image as chickster
a little bit of a little bit of a stunt game. Listen,
I don't think I have the athletic profile to be
an edge rusher, run stopper. I could be a nose
Yeah yeah, I could just fall down slide, you could
slot out sometimes. I don't think I could go outside.
Speaker 18 (10:26):
Oh yeah, I'm paid Tony and Austin a million ee
to be on the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I'd take a mill nows a little bit more. If
the Bengals said, we'll give you a million dollars, but
you can't screw up for the next four years, I
would still probably take a million dollars. Yeah, you really
have to trust yoursell. Embarrassing.
Speaker 11 (10:46):
What's good keeps out here in sunny hot zone? What
up Tony?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
What upbou Man? I feel bad for that, I really do.
Speaker 11 (10:54):
I mean, he already on a hot seat. You just
making any worse. The front office don't care, man, they
don't care. Take that clause about that contract, man, and
focus on winning. Get a brother what he need, Let's go.
It's so embarrassing. I turn on the TV, the national media.
Everybody's eating the Bengals alive as of ownership. Just embarrassing. Man,
Get your foot out so you know what and pay him.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Ronnie Ronn represent the Natty.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Bouncing to you guys and your guests.
Speaker 9 (11:23):
The more I agree with the Bengals and the contract
negotiations with Samore Stewart, I don't understand why this one
individual would hold up the Bengals progressing and using the
same contract language that every other team in the NFL
is using. If not now, then win next year's first
round Pickston He's the same excuse the year for that,
(11:44):
the year for that. It will all be the same
if they don't get it in there.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
No, it's not every team in the NFL that use it.
There are some teams in the NFL use it. And
if you are open about that, and I don't know
if the Bengals were, but when you meet with these
individuals or you bring them in in draft meetings and
say this is now how we're handling our draft or
our contracts, you get a little bit more of an
understanding of it. So I don't think it would be
the same situation.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I I do think that teams would put anybody they
draft would push back on this if they were the
first person to get that in their deal, don't you. Yeah,
But that's why you got to you got to be
open at the start. You got to communicate that right now,
but get going.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So maybe what if they did? It sounds like from
Shamar's side that this is all.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
But does that change Like if you tell them during
the draft visit, this is what we want to do,
does that change anything?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It should because the way that they're talking about it,
they're blindsided by it.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
If they had told Joe Burrow this is what we're
going to do, and he says I don't want that,
would they have not drafted number one overall? Probably not?
There's no way I disagree with that. Well, how did
Eli Manning situation play out? Oh? That was about there
was that about money or about an inept franchise altogether?
Could have been the franchise, but he he essentially saily
his dad more than anything, don't draft me, and they didn't.
Speaker 19 (13:00):
Yeah, the Bengals are more interested in winning an argument
instead of winning games. That quote just says it all
about Ebenezer Brown and his daughter's running that franchise.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, I'm tired of Schamar and uh Trey garbage going on. Okay,
I care less if they played probably need them though,
but whatever. Uh looks like the Reds are avoid Scooball
he's pitching today.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
I think the Reds are gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Possibly sweep the Times. Definitely, two out of three.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Okay, give me what you're drinking.
Speaker 20 (13:41):
Tony Austin George in the valley. So George still on side,
just started listening. But how can you be this guy?
I mean, so, let's say he goes back into the
draft next year. Let's say they don't sign him. I
mean that when he said that, though, you know what's up?
Speaker 6 (13:57):
So what that kind of scares me.
Speaker 20 (13:58):
They're not gonna They're not gonna do with So what
happens when he goes back in the jack Do you
still think he's gonna be a top seventeen big I
don't think. So, he's gonna lose a ton of money,
not just.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
On he has to sign.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
What show is he listening to? I don't know, but
I think he goes back in the draft. What if
the Bengals take him again? They can't. That's the whole thing.
Oh that's the rule, they can't. I'm out George from
the I don't know. I can't speak for Tony, but
from the very beginning I've been on the Bengals side
on this. I win the players.
Speaker 21 (14:26):
Okay, hey, guys, it seems to me that the players
are both kind of silly in this one their parts
both though, Drey and Shamar, and Shamar has an issue
with the Clops about his behavior action whatever they got
in there. I mean, we don't know the details, but
(14:46):
if it's not a problem for him and behave and
not have an issue, then it's on the contract, Bark
Craig is I mean, I don't know. Does he want
just the one big year or does he want four
small years?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, it's it's not just one offs. It's year after
year that players do have contract dispute or contract problems,
and it happens across the league. But it does seem
to to rear it ugly had more than you'd.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Like it to here. The Bengals have almost never in
their history guaranteed money past the first year. They have
slowly started to change on that. T Higgins, Jamar Chase,
Joe Burrow, they got guaranteed money beyond year one. Those
(15:35):
contracts apparently do not feature these clauses, which means there's
no default language that those guys could default on and
ruin their guarantees. When we've talked about those contracts being
negotiated in the past. When we talk about guaranteed money
past year one, this is the type of stuff that
(15:55):
gets negotiated, the details to get hammered out. Those three
contracts don't have default language for guaranteed money past year
one or any of the future years. Those three, however,
are proven NFL commodities among the best at their position,
who have a prior relationship with the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Trice a proven commodity. I agree with that best of
one of the best at his position.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
But I don't think the tray thing comes down to
guaranteed money. I think it comes down to length and
total money. I don't think it has I don't think
guarantees are the issue with Trey. So I can understand
where Schamar's like, wait a minute, you just did those
three big contracts and they didn't have it. But the
Bengals are like, yeah, you're not them. Those guys are
(16:41):
really good.
Speaker 22 (16:41):
Right when I was drafted, I Mike Brown, I asked
my agent, what does this mean a my starter? Will
I be rich?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Here's what he said to me.
Speaker 22 (17:00):
He Shamar Samar, whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Will be will be.
Speaker 22 (17:07):
The money is not there, and he Chamar.
Speaker 12 (17:17):
Yeah, it just hurt God. Leave a talk about God.
Where were you when I was falling down the steps?
You're not at least I didn't break anything. Yeah, I
mean you're still with itbut be thankful.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 14 (17:30):
Have you ever heard of a player and negotiations say oh,
I've been treated so well on any team in the NFL.
I think this is just always a negotiating factor. They
try to I guess OUs their employer and publicly and
to try to get some leverts.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
It's sad. I agree. I think you look at the
Trace situation and the fact that they are negotiating in
the media and they are trying and leaving mini camp
and getting the national headlines. All that is amployed to
gain leverage and they don't have it. And they also
probably don't know because when you look at the list
of players that these guys represent his agency, none of
(18:14):
them are former Bengals. These guys probably have no idea
how the Bengals really operate, and so because of that
they think that they can pull some something like this
and that will give them leverage. Bengals don't care. I
promise you they don't.
Speaker 16 (18:29):
Actually, I didn't think anyone honor to contract anymore.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
And I think people in sports make way too much money,
especially when they're amateurs.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
You make money for other people, they give you some.
It's pretty good. That was our last one. All right,
Austin's got a question today. That's right, ticket giveaway? Are
we gonna do both again? I think we're gonna unlock
the phone lines at five one, three, seven, nine, fifteen thirty,
and we're gonna fill up the lines and we're gonna
allow each caller to choose, or we're gonna allow the
(19:08):
How do we want to do this last year or
last year? I think my brain there's something going on too. One.
Yesterday we allowed the caller to select what they were
playing for. Yes, do you want to do that again? Sure? Okay,
five three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. You have the
(19:30):
option for Big Three tickets coming up in July or
FIFA Club World Cup tickets coming up this Wednesday night
at TQL Stadium. So we will do how do we
(19:51):
give away two two percents of tickets?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well, if you remember yesterday, yeah, yesterday we had the
sixth overall caller, yes, get to pick right which tickets
they they would win and then the other okay, yes,
and then the other caller would answer a question by default.
How about today the fifth caller?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
What if we default? Oh boy? Okay, So the fifth
caller today gets to choose what tickets they want ye,
and the other next caller will have to answer a
trivia question.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yes, five, one, thirty, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty also
get the trivia question, Uh, that's next.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
A chance. Really clean operation here.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to CINTI shirts.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Hey do you run a small business but
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