10/15/25 - The Mo Egger Radio Show - Mo Egger

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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So I'm gonna I'm gonna say something that I think
you would agree with if the Bengals record was the
opposite of what it is right now. In just a second, Moegar,
that's me ESPN fifteen thirty. That's the radio station you're
listening to. Thank you, thanks for doing that much. Appreciate it.

(00:28):
Could you tell others that'd be swell uh? By the way,
it's decision Day Saturday in Major League Soccer FC Cincinnati
plays Montreal, who stinks they're trying to wrap up the
two seed in the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Raws Smith is going to be on the call.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
MLS Season Pass analyst is gonna join us in just
about twenty minutes or so, plus Lee Starling. We're taking
tomorrow's show and we're making it today, so you're gonna
hear a lot of stuff you typically here on Thursdays.
Thursday's is our it's our biggest day when it comes
to guests. We have a lot of guests today, including
our guy Sterling, including our guye Chad Brendel. We're gonna

(01:02):
do some basketball because you see, as Jalen Haynes is
going to be out for a while. They've got an
exhibition game on Friday against Michigan, and college basketball is
almost here. In fact, we got to get on the
books the Rick and Chad college basketball preview Spectacular. Chad's
going to join us at about forty minutes show preview.

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It's a brief one. Is on Twitter at moeger thanks
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loaded today, absolutely loaded. We're getting set for Bengals Steelers. Okay,
I am more than okay with what the Bengals are
doing with Logan Wilson, and you should be as well.

(01:44):
Now here's what happens. The Bengals have lost four consecutive games.
Nobody's happy, nobody should be happy. Everybody's pissed at the
coaching staff. Everybody's pissed at the coach. Everybody's upset at
Duke Tobin. Everybody is mad at the Bengals, and we
should be right. They deserve our anger, despite the fact
that they played well offensively in the second half against

(02:07):
Green Bay. So I understand that. But just take for
a second, how Logan Wilson has played this season.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay, he's been all right. It's been okay.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
If this team was four and two getting the same
exact Logan Wilson, the same exact play from Logan Wilson,
they've gotten at four and two and decided we're gonna
bench him basically and play Barrett Carter Moore. I think
that would be received different than it might be right now.
I think you should be okay with this. I am

(02:40):
okay with this.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Look.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Man, nothing against Logan Wilson. This dude's meant a lot
to the franchise. He's had some very good seasons.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Right. This guy was a part of the solution in
twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
We all like.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Logan Wilson, good draft pick, good player. How many plays
have you seen him make this year? Five point three, seven, four, nine,
fifteen thirty. We don't have a lot of room for
callers today, but how many plays have you watched Logan
Wilson make this year? When we've done this exercise, and
we've done it repeatedly over the last couple of weeks,

(03:14):
who you.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Moving forward with?

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Like?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Who do you really want to be on the team
next year? I don't recall anybody cutting through the crowd
to go hang on Logan Wilson. I'm not doing this
to pick on Logan Wilson. We like Logan Wilson, but
what they're doing at linebacker in particular feels kind of
Unbengal like. And you know what, I'm here for anything

(03:38):
that's un Bengal like. What is Bengal like? Logan Wilson's
been here and you know, it's continuity, and it's it's familiarity,
and so, oh man, this defense stinks. People will go
overboard to tell you how. You know, Oh hell, the

(03:58):
Packers don't only ten points in that first half. Yeah cool,
you watched second half. Do you look at where they
are statistically? Did you see what happened when the game
was hanging in the balance against Detroit they couldn't get
a stop. Did you see how they played at the
end of the first half against Denver when the offense
was spinning against tires and the only hope of staying
in the game was getting a stop.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
They didn't.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
This defense stinks. That's not just Logan Wilson's fault. It's
not mainly Logan Wilson's fault, but they're looking for solutions.
Good for them for going. All right, let's do something
that for us is kind of outside the box. We're
gonna put more on the rookie. We drafted this guy,

(04:41):
we took him for a reason. Let's go. It may
not work, by the way, against Green Bay it didn't.
It may it may fail spectacularly. But this is a
league where there's such a premium on rookies and draft
picks making an instant impact. We talked about this draft
class back in April. This is a class where they

(05:03):
need some dudes who can make an instant impact. Instant
means right away, right away means year one. Barrett Carter
can't make an impact if he's not playing the dude
who was playing. Logan Wilson is a terrific guy, by
the way, an awesome teammate. He has proven that with
how he has talked about and how he apparently has

(05:24):
handled his benching behind the scenes. Great awesome. I'm looking
for impact. I ain't getting it from Logan Wilson. Might
I get it from Barrett Carter. I'd rather not wait
till December fifteenth to find out. This is not about
what Logan Wilson has done or what he has meant,

(05:44):
this is about trying to get this season turned around
and trying to come up with solutions for a bad defense. Look,
because of what they didn't do this offseason, it's not
like they can try somebody else at safety. They are
gonna lean more on DJ Turner and Jax Hill. And
should DJ Turner play great against Green Bay, we'll see,
We'll see if that's a one off, we'll see if

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that's the start of something big.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
But we'll see.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
But like they're trying to come up with answers, man,
and they're trying to come up with answers within the
framework of what they have. What they have, unfortunately aren't
enough better dbs than the ones who have played already.
What they have, it doesn't have DJ Reider, He's not
there anymore. Okay, we drafted two linebackers. Let's put the
defense on their shoulders and see if they can sink

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or swim. By the way, there's gonna be learning curves,
there's gonna be challenges. Barrett Carter certainly went through his
fair share the other day. I have no idea. I
have no idea. Logan Wilson's twenty nine years old. He's
been in this league for a while. There's a very
good chance his best years are behind him. And by
the way, his best years, it's not like we were
talking about a perennial All Pro player. So, all right,

(06:51):
within the framework of what we have, if we can't
go back in time and spend the off season ushering,
ushering in a whole bunch of different defensive players, let's
go with what we got. The typical Bengal way of
doing things to me would be, well, you know, Logan's.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Been here, and you.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Know he's got a relationship with Al Golden, he knows
every call, he's got the green sticker on his helmet.
You know, we value the known more than the unknown.
I am for anything that's not the way the Bengals
typically do things.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
So let's go by the way.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Luenerumo Luenarumo for all of his accomplishments in Cincinnati. As
for as much as you might think he got scapegoaded
last year, and I think there's something to that, And
as much as you might think he was set up
for failure last year, and I definitely think there was
something to that. One of the criticisms of him was
the dude just doesn't want to play the younger guys. Well,
if I'm going to replace Lou Henerumo, I'm gonna do

(07:49):
so hiring a guy that might be a little bit
more willing to.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Do things that Lu didn't want to do. Play the
younger guys.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
If Logan Wilson's play had jumped off the page or
jumped off the tape, if he was having a great year,
by the way, for what it's worth, his pro football
focus great as average, It's like fifty six point seven
something in that range. I should have jotted that down.
There was no real need to. I have no remote
idea of this is gonna work. But at least they're

(08:17):
trying to find something. At least they're trying to find solutions.
There's something about, you know, desperation maybe here and again,
it's not unlike batting Santiago Espinal second, Like, all right, well,
if Matt McLean's not gonna work out hitting second, I'll
try this dude. That might highlight the fact that there's

(08:38):
nobody else you would really want batting second. Somebody has to,
so we'll try Santiago Espinal. I think Barrett Carter has
a chance to be better at his job than Santiago
Espinal is at his but all right, so Logan Wilson said.
The explanation he got was that they wanted to give
the defense a spark. Maybe it's simply that, maybe it's

(09:01):
I don't know, man, Logan, you've met a lot to
this team. We're not really seeing the sort of play
that we were hoping to get from you. We need
to do better. The only way we're going to do
better at this point is by swapping out some known
quantities for some unknown quantities and seeing if they're better.

(09:22):
And we're not gonna wait until the season has spiraled
out of control. This isn't about you know, don't feel
sorry for Logan Wilson. Sure you feel bad for the
guy sucks to be benched, And again, man, credit to
that guy for how he has handled the benching and
his support of Barrett Carter. It's exactly what you would
expect if you have followed that guy's career.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
But you know, I've been thinking.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
About this a lot since last night. I think if
you root for this team, watch this team, care about
this team, know anything about how this team typically operates,
I think you should be okay with this at the
very least and at least mildly intrigued as to how
it's gonna work out tomorrow night. We will see it

(10:03):
may bottom out. Barrett Carter may not be very good. Okay,
then what right? The defense top to bottom hasn't been
good as is. It's not like Logan Wilson was saving
this defense from completely crap in the bed, like all right,
let's go. They're trying something good for them. At moegor

(10:24):
on Twitter, we are jammed with guests today, so I
will admit to you we don't have a ton of
room for phone calls this afternoon, so I'm being transparent.
You are more than welcome to try, and if we
have a gap, we'll take one or two. But I
have decided I don't want to be one of those
hosts who says, hey call the show and then.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
There's no room to take people who have been waiting.
Not the kind of human being I am.

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Com, we are low between now and uh six o'clock tonight.
By the way, Bengals game plans six to eight as
soon as we're done here on ESPN fifteen thirty. Also,
can we talk about a guy who used to be
here that many want to be here again? That coming
up next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Well,
that's right, we're playing the Sweetest Day sexy time music

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because tomorrow Sweetest Day is Saturday. Yes, Tarn, do you
like Sweetest Day more? Or Valentine's Day more?

Speaker 6 (11:29):
Valentine's Day?

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Hear more of Valentine's Day?

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Gay?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Ninety five point eight percent in our poll, which we
asked about twenty four hours ago, so there's still some
time left. Ninety five point eight percent say no, they
don't celebrate Sweetest Day.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Tarn is ready to go.

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However, yesterday Paul Danner Junior was on the show and
he was terrific talking about He wrote a really good
piece on on kind of how they got Joe Flacco
ready to go to play on Sunday. And let's be honest,
Joe wasn't awesome in the first half. He was fine
in the second half, which is why there's this just
jolts of optimism permeating through the franchise. Paul was great yesterday,

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Bill was on staff and renowned for his work with
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gonna just do a kind of a huge Ackson thing

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with Brian Callahan, maybe Bill Callahan, And.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Maybe they do.

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And I'm not opposed to it, but if you are
acknowledging that, well, you know what they could benefit from
Brian Callahan being in the building because he knows the Bengals,
he knows Zach Taylor, he knows the offense for what
it's worth, knows Joe Burrow. That's fine, But if you're
acknowledging that, then you're acknowledging they could use some help

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Speaker 2 (15:16):
Every single Thursday, we have the Big Lance Mowen Rocky
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So I wanted to see if we could take some
of our Thursday stuff and move it to Wednesday. And
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Speaker 1 (15:32):
Can you do it on Wednesday?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
I know you're you're still working on the weekend getting
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Speaker 1 (15:50):
Lee, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I'm good, I'm good. I'm like I said, it's today.
You're early and not finished with all the games, but
I'm finished with your game. So you know, things can change, injuries,
things like that. You know, we don't know the full
status of Trey Hendrickson yet, but I think we've got
a pretty good idea just about everyone else.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, all right, So let's start with a big twelve
battle that's not the Bearcats in Oklahoma State. More on
that game in just a second. Let's talk about the
Battle of Utah, where the Utes are laying three and
a half against BYU.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
All right, so these games are usually close. You see
a lot of these guys on one team, they can
end up on another team. Now with nil, they just
switch over. Used to be they go on a Mormon
mission and then come back and sometimes then on the
other team. I mean a lot of family members. You know,
it's a house divided. I don't think there's that much

(16:43):
difference between these two teams, although both teams are different.
Utah has the best player on the.

Speaker 11 (16:49):
Field in Devin Dampier.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
He's passed for eleven touchdowns, he's run for five. I
don't think though, that his supporting cast is great. I mean,
got a couple receivers and Ryan Davis tight end Dallon Bentley.
These two guys are good, but you know they're only
catching balls for like ten and eleven yards per reception.
On the other side, Bear Bachmeer not quite as talented

(17:13):
as Devin Dampier, but got better running back and LJ.
Martin has over six hundred and fifty yards. He's got
two receivers, and Chase Robertson and Parker Kingston who were
averaging nineteen and fourteen and a half yards of reception
even a tight end case and Ryan averaging fifteen yards
of reception. I just think this is a game that's

(17:34):
usually decided either on the last possession or the last play.

Speaker 12 (17:38):
Last year was the last play.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
And BYU went on the road and won twenty two
to twenty one. I had BYU win it again at home.
This game is at home I have won in twenty
six twenty four. Just think that Utah sometimes not great
at throwing the football. If they fall behind, that could
be tough for him. Two teams with good spread records.
Utah has five and one against the spread, BYU four

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and two against the spread.

Speaker 13 (18:04):
Why not, I'm set.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
In the Holy War here one hundred and third time
they're playing BYU twenty six, twenty four.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
All right, very good, let's stay in the Big twelve.
Oklahoma State has been a train wreck this season. They've
lost their three Big twelve games by an average of
more than twenty two points. Cincinnati against a Big twelve
opponent on the road, more than a three touchdown favorite.

Speaker 11 (18:27):
Well, it does carry you, obviously.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
They took their foot off the gas last week, and
this is a role they're not familiar with. They're much
more talented than Oklahoma State. Colaoma State already had some
guys transfer out after the coach got fired. Yeah, you're
able to do that if your coach gets fired. So
that's what happened here. Oklahoma State is my worst rated
Power for Conference team by seven points behind Stanford here.

(18:53):
So you know, we talked about it. That close Week
one lost to Nebraska's kept Cincinnati off the radar. The
only team with who averages more yards here is only
one in the country on offense. And I mean this
offense is really good when they put the you know,
they put their foot on the gas here, and few
teams are worse than Oklahoma States offense. The only one

(19:15):
is maybe Oklahoma States defense. Yep, Cincinnati's going to cover
forty five seven.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
All right, very good, I like I like you. Like
how you thinking, Lee? Thank you very much, Lee Sterling,
Paramount Sports dot Com. All Right, the Bengals, there's been
a surge of optimism here in Cincinnati because of how
Joe Flacco and the offense performed late in the game
against Green Bay. They are still home dogs in a
short week against Pittsburgh getting five and a half.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
You saw it. You saw Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
He was not happy.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Trust me, he knows what it's all about.

Speaker 14 (19:46):
Here.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
The Steelers are reluctant to blitz Flaco after Flacco relieved
Anthony Richards in mid game for the Colts last year
through a pair of touchdown passes to help them beat
the Steelers. Packers didn't blitz Stationary Joe here much at
all on Sunday. Here and Joe Flack on the second half.

(20:07):
He looked good. The first half took him a little while.
But at home, if they had to travel, maybe, you know,
might be a little tougher. But I like the points.
Let's call for the upset here?

Speaker 12 (20:17):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (20:19):
King favored Dongles twenty six twenty four, same score over Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Lee Sterling picking the Bengals to pull off the upset
over the Pittsburgh Steelers. Music to my ears by the
way Lea's on Twitter at Paramount Sports here. Game of
the Week has Luke Fickle a huge underdog, maybe on
the Wisconsin sideline for the final time, going up against
his alma mater.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yep, We're gonna find out. Does he have anything to show?
Ohio State didn't last week at all. Ohio State got
to be looking ahead down the road to some other games,
but gonna be interesting. It's a tough point spread. You
want to find out if Ohio State blows them out
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I appreciate you adjusting your schedule. We'll talk next week.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Thanks mouth, take care.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
There's our guy, Lee Sterling Paramount sports dot com. Meanwhile,
we're getting said for a decision Day in Major League Soccer.
FC Cincinnati has the two seed in the Eastern Conference
on the line. They can clinch it with a victory
over Montreal home game for the Orange and Blue earlier
start for Decision Day at six o'clock on Saturday evening
the match on Apple TV's MLS Season Pass, where Ross

(22:16):
Smith is an MLS match analyst. Ross, It's good to
have you. FC Cincinnati is playing for something. Montreal is not.
That organization seems like a bit of a train wreck
right now. Do they pose a thread on Saturday night?

Speaker 12 (22:31):
They do?

Speaker 15 (22:32):
They do, you know, despite moment that they've had an
awful season, the worst in club history.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
In MLS, they're fighting.

Speaker 15 (22:42):
They're fighting and credit they've got an interim manager, Marco Donadel,
who took over you can say about a quarter of
the way through the season.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
He's done a good job.

Speaker 15 (22:55):
He's a former player with them, big name you know
in the soccer world. He's done a good job just
at stabilizing, at getting guys back to putting in an
effort which has to be said. They're gonna give Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
A good goal for it.

Speaker 15 (23:14):
You know, despite not having much to play, they're playing
for jobs. Guys are playing for next season.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
There's a couple of.

Speaker 12 (23:20):
Guys who are doing all right.

Speaker 15 (23:21):
They're they're gonna give c Cincinnati a good goal for this.
So they're not gonna lay down. Says, they're going to
be a walkover as you step into two playoffs.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Sc Cincinnati's home record isn't awful eight victories, four draw
five draws this season, Yet, Dave, I think they've played
unevenly in their own building. Any idea why, Wow, it's tough.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
It's so tough.

Speaker 15 (23:47):
I do feel like, yes, Cincinnati, they're seeing that when
they click, and I can't put it down to like
a home more a way. I feel as though when
they click, though, watch out. But if they're not click seen,
then all of a sudden you can get them.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
You can get at them.

Speaker 15 (24:03):
And and I bet bat Newton, I'm gonna chat. I'm
gonna sit down with Pat newon tomorrow. I'm gonna chat
with him. And Pat is so open, which is is
just one of the you know, there's many attributes that
I really admire about Pat noon that's.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
One of them.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
He'll tell us straight. But I think that's one of them, is.

Speaker 15 (24:18):
The consistency of the team, team.

Speaker 12 (24:21):
Style that they want to play.

Speaker 15 (24:23):
But what they have at the end of the day,
when the when it's not quite happening, they've got individual brilliance.
And I still give creditton managers for bringing out the
individual brilliance. You know, some managers, you know, might have
a top player in their team.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
But not be getting the best out of them.

Speaker 15 (24:40):
Patt Nowonon is so when the style is not quite happening,
he still has a couple of I call them heavy hitters.
It's got a couple of heavy hitters. And the team
of course at Vander you know that can that can deliver.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (24:55):
I don't think Homer away. I don't think it makes
much of a difference. I don't think these guys are
overawed when they you know, oom and feeling the pressure.
I just think it's a matter of when it clicks
and when it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Pat Newonan was the coach of the year or two
years ago. I think this has been his best coaching job.
Would you agree?

Speaker 15 (25:16):
Yeah, yeah, he's he tacks all the boxes, and I
think the box that he takes the best is he
tells guys straight. And granted I'm not on the training
ground all the time. I actually played with Pat for
a short period of time in Colorado, and I know
Pat in terms of he'll tell you straight, and he'll

(25:36):
tell you straight without feeling as though you have to
turn your back on him and think, you know, kind
of screw.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
You, I'm out of here.

Speaker 15 (25:43):
He'll tell you you know when you're doing well, and
you know when you're not doing well. And I don't
think there's as many coaches. I don't think there's as
many characters in the game as Pat Newman that delivers
it that way, and I think it's missed.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
So I think that's one of.

Speaker 15 (26:00):
His skill sets that he can't hide it. He needs
to tell you, you know, which is admirable.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Ross Smiths MLS Match analyst for Apple TV MLS Season Pass.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Regardless of whether they're the two.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Or the three, FC Cincinnati is in the playoffs the East.
Last year it felt like the Big Three and then
the postseason began and the Eastern Conference got turned on
its head.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
What do you expect this year?

Speaker 15 (26:26):
Eastern Conferences by far the better conference, By far the
better Conference. However, Vancouver coming out on the other side
with Thomas Mueller Thomas, but they haven't lost yet. And
and the Germany has come across after spending his entire
career career with Bayern Munich. He has been sensational, so
watch out for him, watch out for son On with LAFC,

(26:49):
it's the same.

Speaker 12 (26:50):
The effect of those two players coming.

Speaker 15 (26:53):
Into their team is something else. But still the Eastern Conference,
you know, right the way through, the teams that are
making the playoffs are.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
A different level. However, there's a couple.

Speaker 15 (27:04):
Of teams that are having a dip right now, and
Orlando's one of them. So for Orlando right now, it's
shaken up that they could say Cincinnati, that's a good matchup.
And even though Orlando came in to your building, to
Cincinnati's building a couple of weeks ago, and I thought
deserved three points. They're weekends, they've got injuries, they're not

(27:25):
looking like themselves, which is a horrible team to play against. Anyways,
I think if you're an FC Cincinnati fan, you don't
mind taking on Orlando in the first rounds if that's
the matchup. But whenever team comes out of the Eastern
conference they've done well because that is a tough conference
right now feels much.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
More wide open. And that's Philadelphia team. It felt like
every time they needed to win in the supporter shield race,
they did.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
And so.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I want to watch Pat noon and coach against his
former organization. We will see first things for wrap up
the two seed with a win on Saturday night against
Montreal six o'clock. MLS season pass, Apple TV Ross. Awesome
to have you man, thanks so much.

Speaker 16 (28:08):
Well, greed to hear you.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
Thanks for having me on always.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
FC Cincinnati season regular season finale at six o'clock on
Saturday night against Montreal. It's them or Miami for the
two Miami and Cincinnati. Right now we're tied in points.
FC Cincinnati would win a tiebreaker if both ended up tied,
but the Orange and Blue can wrap up the two
seed with a three point result on Saturday evening six pm.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
The match, I.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Believe that is a Fox Sports thirteen sixty broadcast. If
I'm not mistaken. On the ring, I think Kentucky plays.
See these are the things I should know as an
employee the radio station. But here's this is why this
is what separates me from everybody else. I will make
the rest of this segment sound clunky so I could
look it up in real time. Pull this up Kentucky.

(28:58):
Kentucky plays Texas at seven.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
That's not going to go well from work stoops, so.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
That moves the FC Cincinnati radio broadcast to Fox Sports
thirteen sixty. The game starts at six, so you'll hear
Tommy and Kevin at five thirty.

Speaker 6 (29:11):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Uh, we found out bad news about a UC Bearcat
basketball player that I think was going to be and
could still be, I guess a factor this season. That
and the football situation as the Bearcats get set to
hit the road with our guy, Chad Brundle.

Speaker 7 (29:28):
Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 8 (29:33):
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Health's Women's Sports Medicine Program provides specialized care for female
athletes at all levels. Schedule and appointment online at UCHealth
dot com. On Bridgetown Road, there's an accident at Ebenezer Road.
Another accident on Hamilton at Stevens Avenue. That one is

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south of Compton Road on laid Lawn. Another accident west
of Paddock Road and northbound Redding Road. One more accident
after Dale Road on that ezelic with traffic.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
This report you have sponsored by.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Ten Away from four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.
Typically Chad Rendle's with us on Thursdays, but whatever, it's
a weird week. So I asked Chad to join us
today because there's a there's a lot to discuss. Bearcatjournal
dot com. Hi, Chad.

Speaker 12 (30:24):
There's been a lot of weird weeks lately though.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, there has been. Yes, that's I'm done with the
weird week.

Speaker 12 (30:31):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yes, I just want a normal I want a normal week.
Here's also what I want. I want to be doing
my show. And then in the middle of it, uh not,
get a press release from uc announcing that a basketball
player is going to be out indefinitely.

Speaker 12 (30:47):
That was that was not great yesterday, mo. I thought
we might have but we might get through a day
like fairly unscathed. And then at you know, four fifteen
or whatever it was that hit yesterday and it was scathed.
The day was scathed.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, all right, how big of a loss is Jalen Haynes?
And when I read in definitely should I fear that
this could be a season long thing.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (31:12):
It's a big loss. A big loss, especially because I
think with or without Jalen Haynes, I think this is
going to be a really good team. Defensively, I think
Jalen Haynes was going to be a guy that could
help them on the offensive end substantially. He wasn't a
traditional people see his size and think like old school,

(31:35):
back to the basket, throw it to him and get
a bucket. There was some of that to his game,
but he had a lot more than that. Offensively, he
could catch it at fifteen feet and drive. He could
shoot the little fifteen seventeen footer. You could run offense
through him because he was a really good passer. So
I think offensively, this is a pretty big blow to Cincinnati.

(31:59):
I don't think they particularly specifically know yet how long
it's gonna be. I was kind of calling some of
my friends around the country to get a feel for
some of this. I had a friend of mine that's
an assistant in a Power five league, power four league
that said, they've got a guy that they think they
could get back in December, and that guy my red

(32:21):
shirt because he's gonna miss two months. You come back
in conference play, you only get two months, why not
red shirt? And then you get this year's payment for
your services and you get another year next year of
payment for your services. So I think that's something to
watch out for on this too. Like, if this is

(32:43):
something that goes into January or February or whatever it is,
does it make sense for Jalen Haynes to maybe say, Hey,
I'm gonna I'm gonna get back to one hundred percent
and we'll do it again next year. So I possibly yes,
Like maybe the injury keeps him out that whole time,
maybe he decides the red shirt is the best way

(33:05):
to go. But I do think it's something that mentally
you got to prepare for and that West Miller and
his team has to prepare for that it could be
a season long thing.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
October fifteenth and we're already talking about this. They do
play Michigan on Friday. I'll be able to watch this
on like Big ten plus two some version of the
Big ten network.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I can watch this on on Friday.

Speaker 12 (33:26):
It's on Big ten plus with that, which I think
is like fifteen dollars a month, So.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I gotta pay fifteen bucks much pay fifteen bucks once
you see play Michigan on Friday, I believe. So if
I decide to do this, give me one or two
things I should be looking for.

Speaker 12 (33:46):
Well, Michigan might have the best player in the country,
so that's something you can pay attention to. Is how
to Cincinnati handle Yaxville Lindenborg. We were like, hey, go
get that guy. Yes, yeah, best player in the country.
So he'll be really good and then it'll be interesting
to see how Cincinnati handles him on the interior. I'm

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gonna be very interested to see in how some of
the rotation book. I know it's an exhibition game, an
exhibition game a couple of days after they lose what
was going to be a really important piece of their
front court rotation. But and here here's the name though
where he's not getting a lot of talk yet. But

(34:31):
I think, especially if this injury lasts for an extended
period of time, I'm really interested in Jordi Rodriguez because
I think he can help this team. He was He's
from Spain, played in the in their their top league,
also was on the national team with Boba Miller. I

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really like what I've seen from Jordi Rodriguez. I've liked
what I've heard from people that have been there every day.
I think if there's an increased role, that's a guy
that might be able to capitalize on it more than anyone.
And he can really really shoot the basketball. And I
would like to have as many of those type of
guys on the floor as possible.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
It's twelve ninety nine a month. I got to pay
thirteen bucks to watch UC versus. I'll be in in
Oklahoma City for the game against Oklahoma State. Maybe I
can get Hord and Pike to chip in and we'll
pay the thirteen bucks to watch the game.

Speaker 12 (35:30):
Well, I will be there in ann Arbor.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Oh perfect.

Speaker 12 (35:34):
Can you like hold follow me on Twitter?

Speaker 2 (35:37):
I'll follow you on Twitter, Gret. What if i'd like
just text you like intermittently during the game.

Speaker 12 (35:43):
Uh yeah, I'm down with that. You know. I'll update you.
Maybe maybe we can FaceTime. Yeah, and I'll give you
some of the action. I don't know where they're gonna
sit us. Yeah, I saw it was in section like
two hundred something.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
M hm.

Speaker 12 (35:58):
So I'm probably not gonna have the best of you,
but I'll be there.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I'm very good. I have two more questions for you.
One is basketball related, you know. I came to the
West Miller media availability today, Yes, because I am hopeful
that we could replicate what they did in Boston where
the Celtics coaches drubbed Boston Celtics media in a scrimmage
fifty seven to four. And I was trying to find

(36:24):
five dudes in that room that we could put on
the floor against the Bearcat coaches.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Would you be game?

Speaker 12 (36:30):
I'm game? I mean I Keegan. Would you know Keegan's
probably going to be our best bet for an athlete?

Speaker 14 (36:37):
Uh?

Speaker 12 (36:38):
He was. I don't have you know this one? Not
Keegan played Juco baseball.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I did not know this.

Speaker 12 (36:43):
So so he's an athlete. Well he's a catcher. Okay,
so he's kind of an athlete. He's athlete a Jason.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Now, by the way, Tarran has volunteered his services, so
you know we Arran would help.

Speaker 12 (36:57):
I've got Corey Evans. I'll guard Corey very good.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
We'll work on that. For me. Football is not going
to lose to Oklahoma State.

Speaker 12 (37:07):
Right, I wouldn't think. So I got to answer our
guy Jeff that f f car had me on one
of his shows and asked me if this was a
trap game. I said Jeff, I think the trap game
was last Saturday.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yes, I agree.

Speaker 12 (37:23):
You're coming off of Kansas and Iowa State. You got
a talented but underachieving, a little bit Central Florida team.
It's a rivalry game. Cincinnati didn't play great on offense,
Like I thought that was the trap game. I think
this week Oklahoma State's just not very talented, and they'll

(37:43):
play hard, and it's homecoming and it's the night game.
I wouldn't be surprised to see them hang around for
a little bit. But this is a much much, much
more talented Cincinnati squad, and I think they're trap game.
Their sleep through game was last week against Central Florida.
I think Oklahoma State will have their undivided attention. Dante

(38:06):
Corleo mentioned they still remember Oli Gordon running for what
was it, four hundred and eighty three yards that like
two years ago. It's still water, So I don't think
this is going to be a look past the opponent game.
And Oklahoma State is pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
How much will I have to pay to watch the
Arkansas exhbision? That to pay the SEC network money too,
So that's on SEC plush.

Speaker 12 (38:34):
But as long as you have like the ESPN.

Speaker 16 (38:36):
Yeah thing, uh huh, you should get that.

Speaker 12 (38:39):
That's just part of b SPN.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
All right, So I'm looking at thirteen bucks.

Speaker 12 (38:43):
Yeah, and I'm sending Kegan to Arkansas.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Okay, very good.

Speaker 12 (38:49):
So we'll have somebody's there too, because the Bearcut Journal,
that's what we do. Mom.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I was hoping that the radio flagship of the Bearcats
would would perhaps broadcast those games. But I'm spending thirteen
bucks I guess on Friday to watch that tilt while
following you on Twitter. Thank you as always. I appreciate you,
uh changing your schedule.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
God hold.

Speaker 12 (39:12):
You have the luxury that nobody else has. What is
that you can put the game on your phone and
have Dan Horde call it for you.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
This is an excellent idea. And I don't know if
Dan is listening, but his Friday night plans have now
been made for him.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Ni Chad, thanks, thanks.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Do that, Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal dot Com. Thirteen bucks
for Big Day. What do you get on Big ten
plus for a month to watch all the Wisconsin Iowa football?
You want to watch Luke Fickle standing on the sideline.
That's fun. Here's some Nebraska. Nebraska volleyball matches are a
big deal. You can watch those. Robert Wintroubs usually on Thursday,

(39:59):
but he's gonna on Wednesday next on ESPN fifteen thirty.
Cincinnati sports station is Tomlin.

Speaker 10 (40:04):
On Thursday Night football, the Bengals look to toss the
Steelers into the recycling bin. There's a lot I can
say about Pittsburgh, but none of it can be set
on our radio. The Bengals slug it out with the
Steelers tomorrow. Coverage vos at three pm stream for free
are the new and improved iHeartRadio app or ESPN fifteen thirty,

(40:26):
the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
There has to be somewhere out there in Ohio State
fan who has a Big ten plus login right, who
watches like the rowing teams. Ohio State has every sport conceivable,
the wrestling team, equestrian squad, and they watch those events
on the Big ten plus that they pay thirteen dollars

(40:53):
a month for. So if I could just borrow that
login on Friday, I'm not gonna do anything else with it,
right to watch the Bearcats play against Michigan.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
We're both going to be rooting against.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Michigan in that game, right, So I'm just trying to
save thirteen dollars. So if you know, if you're an
obviously you're not. You don't need big ten plus for
Buckeyes football, but big ten plus for you know, if
you'd like to watch the golf team play.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Why day is a good golf team. I'm sure it.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Just let me borrow the login Friday night and I'll
do you a solid. I have nothing to reciprocate with,
but that would be nice. Robert win trub is with
us again, a typical Thursday guest. But you know, everything's
different this week. Everything's really it's gonna be different for
a while. Everything's different this week because of the game tomorrow.
So I asked Robert to join us before his weekly

(41:44):
column is even up. He does write one for Cincinnati Magazine.
You could read it weekly at Cincinnati Magazine dot comed.
He's with us now.

Speaker 17 (41:50):
Hi, Robert, Hey, I feel naked joining you before the
column is even that what am I supposed to refer to?
I'll just have to win it and spitball my way
through that weekly segment.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
I too feel naked for reasons that have nothing to
do with your column, all right, So I viewed the.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Game against Green Bay as a preseason game. The result
they weren't going to win that one, right, So all right,
let's let's see if they can do some stuff during
that game that they can build on. I'm not sure
we saw that defensively, I do think we saw with
Joe Flacco. Did we see enough to make us believe
they could upset the Pittsburgh Steelers?

Speaker 17 (42:28):
Well, I'll say this, there's one critical difference between that
and a preseason game, which is, as you were just
alluding to, being a football fan is expensive, right, and
entertainment product. The Bengals without Flacco, with Browning in there
were just unwatchable and they made you eat all the
money or you know, God forbid you paid to go.

Speaker 11 (42:45):
To the game.

Speaker 17 (42:46):
So the ultimate sin in football, especially the NFL, is
to be so execrable and dysfunctional that you make you
want to turn the TV off basicly. So you know,
Flacco gave them that. They were obviously in the game
him in the second half. It was a decent TV product.
They had a chance. So yeah, they had also a
lot of opportunity to as we'll probably get to work

(43:09):
on some things and do a lot of things they
probably wouldn't in the game.

Speaker 11 (43:12):
They weren't sort of shadow throwing away.

Speaker 17 (43:15):
It felt like a little bit given Flaco's brand newness
to the offense in the fact, they probably weren't going
to beat the Packers, at least they didn't think going in,
despite what they talked about post game. But yeah, I
think obviously now they have the Steelers coming in to.

Speaker 11 (43:29):
Ben Gay Bowl.

Speaker 17 (43:31):
You know, they have the young bucket, the two quarterbacks
with Flaco and Aaron Rodgers. It's a tough matchup in
a couple of senses, but you know they can definitely
win the game. I don't think Mike Tomlin would have
been so upset at his press conference if she didn't
recognize the fact that Blaco gives them a much better
chance than Jake Browning did. The Steelers killed Jake Browning
in twenty twenty three twice. I'm sure they were licking

(43:52):
their chops to play him. Flaco made the offense functional.

Speaker 11 (43:56):
He got the ball just like we were talking about
last week.

Speaker 17 (43:59):
He got rid of it in time and quickly got
out of bad plays, didn't turn bad plays into worst plays,
and you know, the dreaded cliche kept them ahead of
the chains.

Speaker 11 (44:09):
He did that and gave them a chance to win
the game.

Speaker 17 (44:11):
With a couple of things even broke right for them,
and you know, seem to recognize that throwing the ball
in the general, as sime of Jamar Chase, is always
a good thing.

Speaker 6 (44:19):
So they have a crack.

Speaker 11 (44:21):
You know, the.

Speaker 17 (44:22):
Steelers and Aaron Rodgers have played pretty functional themselves in
a lot of ways. Rogers is doing for Pittsburgh what
Placo did for the Bengals in the second half. You know,
he's not turning the ball over. He has only three picks.
And you know the bad news is Steelers lead the
league in yards per catch, yards after the catch for reception,
which means they've been breaking tackles, and of course the

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Bengals don't make many tackles, so that's a matchup there
are no doubt can exploit, especially if the rookie linebackers
play as we assume they are.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
The Steelers have a good record. I think a lot
of us are trying to figure out really how good
they are? What do what do the advanced metrics tell us?

Speaker 17 (45:00):
Their defense is very good. I don't think that's been
any surprise. We expected it coming into the season. We
expected them to lean heavily on their defense, and that's
what the event's metrics tell us. They're right at the
top of the league in pressure rate, they're in the
top ten in DV away.

Speaker 11 (45:14):
And they're doing the things you expect them to be.

Speaker 17 (45:16):
Their one flaw is that they have had trouble guarding
number one enemy wide receivers, which might actually play in
this thing's nice hands. Jamar Chase is no doubt noting that,
and he's had successful games against the Steelers certainly before.
And you know, offensively, like I alluded to, they're not
trying to do anything particularly fancy. They're not asking Aaron
Rodgers to do the things his ancient body can't do.

Speaker 11 (45:41):
And you know, they're sort of middle of the pack,
which is what they expected.

Speaker 17 (45:44):
But they have offensive line issues and they're mitigating it
by their style of play.

Speaker 11 (45:48):
And the key will be.

Speaker 17 (45:49):
You know what, which team can get the other out
of their quasi comfort zone. I guess first and make
the other team make a mistake. And given the fact
that the Steelers defense has certainly been better than the
Bengals defense has.

Speaker 11 (46:01):
Been through the first you know, five six weeks of
the season, you have to give them the advantage in
that sense.

Speaker 17 (46:06):
But you know, a short week home game, primetime, anything
can happen.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Robert win Troup is with his check for his weekly
Bengals column at Cincinnati Magazine dot com. They're benching Logan Wilson.
We saw them give a lot of playing time to
Barrett Carter. This defense needs a spark, This defense needs
guys who can make tackles. What do you make on
what they've done with a guy that a lot of
us thought was kind of gonna be the anchor of
the defense this season.

Speaker 17 (46:31):
Well, yeah, and a lot of us thought that because
that's exactly what Al Golden said was gonna happen all
off season. Basically, let's build around Logan Wilson, get a
couple of understudies and rookies to work with him and
sort of transform the defense in the middle there. And
it's kind of, you know, contradicting it not only himself,
but it also is sort of like, what are the

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Bengals doing here? And one breath they're telling you, oh,
we still have a great chance.

Speaker 11 (46:55):
We brought in Flaco. We want to you know, not
punt on the season.

Speaker 17 (47:00):
And yet in this movie, it almost seems like, you know,
let's give the kids a chance in a low pressure situation.
The season's gone anyway without Joe Burro playing, Let's throw
them in there.

Speaker 11 (47:11):
We're gonna have to turn over the defense of them eventually.

Speaker 17 (47:13):
Let's give them all their you know, reps now while
the pressure is a.

Speaker 11 (47:17):
Little bit off.

Speaker 17 (47:18):
So in that sense, it's a little strange. I can
understand what they were thinking sort of, but you know,
and then you see that mistackles and lining up in
the wrong place and kind of doing the wrong thing
really hurt them in the Green Bay game.

Speaker 11 (47:31):
And you know, it's one.

Speaker 17 (47:32):
Thing to have it happened against the Packers in the
game you're expected to lose.

Speaker 11 (47:36):
But now you've got a division game in prime time
stand alone.

Speaker 17 (47:39):
You hope that we don't have a repeat of that
on Thursday night, for sure.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Well said really quick. The difference, and I've talked about
this this week, The difference between three and four and
two and five feels massive because then we start talking
about Pittsburgh running away with it, and here we start
talking about the trade deadline. Trey Hendrys would be the
most frequently discussed guy, but by the way, for what
it's worth Trey just a few moment moments ago showed

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up on the injury report as questionable, which is a
small step in the right direction beyond him.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
If that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
In a week, who are some other guys they can
maybe get something for?

Speaker 17 (48:16):
Well, what if I flipped it around and told you
what they really should do. Not only would they trade Hendrickson,
which you imagine they would probably try to do, but
what if they looked over to another terrible team that
just fired their coach, our friend will Brian Callahan, and said,
you know what, we've never been able to get a
defensive tackling here.

Speaker 11 (48:33):
Since you know Atkins who could.

Speaker 17 (48:34):
Rush the passer. Let's give a pick already since we
can't draft one, and get Jeffrey Simmons over to Heah.

Speaker 11 (48:40):
No, I know you would diseason per se, but it
would be a center of gravity you can build around.
Look at the future. You know, you had your quarterback
coming back eventually, and.

Speaker 17 (48:50):
Uh, you know, maybe it's not a direct Hendrickson for
Simmons Trey, but it works out that way in terms
of the picks, and uh, you know, you get rid
of an aging guy, you don't want to pay next year.
For sure, They've made that clear.

Speaker 11 (49:02):
And you bring in the guy who's only twenty eight.

Speaker 17 (49:04):
Has a decent contract and is obviously an excellent player,
and finally he gets an interior pass rush and and
a real dominator on the inside. Now, will they do it?
Will the Titans do it?

Speaker 5 (49:14):
Probably not.

Speaker 11 (49:14):
Will the Bengals do it? Almost absolutely. It's the first
thing I thought about.

Speaker 17 (49:18):
And you know, whether they trade, you know, Logan Wilson,
let's say for a mid round pike, whatever.

Speaker 6 (49:23):
I don't think any of that. It's the needle.

Speaker 11 (49:25):
Let's think big.

Speaker 17 (49:26):
We still got a little bit of opportunity to maybe
win our third game of the season.

Speaker 11 (49:30):
What the heck, we're in dream state right.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
Now, mom, we are.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
We are in dream state and you're naked, So it's
it's getting weird. I appreciate you adjusting your schedule for us.
We'll talk next week.

Speaker 17 (49:40):
These things happen when you get me on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Awesome stuff, man, I appreciate it. Robert wintrob Bengals column
coming out at Cinsionmagazine dot com.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Roberie the Man, thanks so much.

Speaker 11 (49:51):
You too, Thanks both all.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Lincoln Griffin is back with the Cyclones and he is
going to join us next.

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But the Cincinnati Cidclodes are gearing up for the twenty
twenty five twenty twenty six season. Lincoln Griffin is back
back for his fifth season with the Cyclones. Had a
huge year last year. Career high fifty two points led
the Clones and assists, some points, shared the team leading goals,
led the team in power play goals and short handed goals,
and appeared in a career high seventy games. He is

(51:15):
getting ready for the season, Lincoln. It's awesome to have you.
Thank you for joining us. How are you?

Speaker 4 (51:20):
I'm great, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
What are those days before the season opener like for you?

Speaker 4 (51:27):
So right now we're in training camp and so we're
kind of just you know, on the ice for an
hour hour and a half, getting ready for the home opener.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Home opener, by the way, on Saturday against the Wheeling
Nailor's first face off at seven thirty. What is a
typical training camp day like?

Speaker 4 (51:47):
We get to the rink probably around eight, you know,
do our routine, stretch, have workout, and then we hop
on the ice and then you know, go through practice,
get off, cool down, have lunch, and then uh, you know,
before getting on the ice, we have some meetings and yeah,

(52:09):
it's it's just gearing up for that first game.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
You have a new head coach in Riley Weslowski. What
are your impressions of him?

Speaker 4 (52:17):
It's going great. He's he's an intelligent hockey guy, you know,
he's running the practice as well.

Speaker 13 (52:25):
It's very efficient.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
He uh, you know, he brought a good group in
and uh, just excited to get started.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Do you have a lot of guys and you've gone
through this for some of your teammates or certainly for
a lot of players in the EHL, this is their
first taste of professional hockey. What is the biggest adjustment,
especially right now.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
Yeah, you know, you get new faces in the locker room,
especially for the younger guys they're coming from college or juniors.
It's just I think the difference is, you know, they're
they're playing against big, faster, stronger guys out there, and
you know, years ago I was I was one of them,

(53:07):
and you get the nerves and once you get that
first shift over and done with, you know, you kind
of settle in and you can play your game.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
So, I mean it's five years ago, right, you're getting
ready for year five. Was there a moment where you're like, oh, man,
professional hockey is a little bit different than everything I've
done to this point.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Yeah, I think just the speed of the game. You know,
you're playing against older guys that have been in the
league and you know, have played pro for a non
number of years and it's a little adjustment. But like
I said, once you get that first shift and first
game over and done with, I think you kind of
settle in and you know, just get used to it.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Riley has on his staff Louis camparosso fan favorite guy
who was nice enough to join our show maybe six
weeks ago. What is it like having a guy that
you played with now being one of your coaches.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
It's awesome. You know, we played together for uh three
or four years. He's a great guy on and off
the ice, tremendous player, uh just and he has that
hockey knowledge that you know he can give to the
younger guys and you know me as well. So I
can't wait to see him behind the bench.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
You you kind of re signed a late in the process,
I think admittedly, why was that?

Speaker 4 (54:32):
You know, I was going through talks with Wes and
my agent and we came to an agreement. And you know,
I'm back in Sincy. It's my second home and can't
wait to get started.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
What do you like You mentioned your second home. You've
been here a while. What do you like about Cincinnati?

Speaker 4 (54:52):
I think the city's very very underrated. You know, before
coming to Cincinnati. I had no idea what o'hai was like,
what since he was like. And then I got here,
and you know, I'm from outside of Boston, so it
gives me a little smaller Boston vibe.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
You know, there's so much to do.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
The fans love their sports. It's incredible here.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
There's no question about that. We agree there. Best of luck.
It's the last few days of training camp Saturday. I'm
sure can't get here soon enough. It's great to have
you back with the Cyclones. Can't thank you enough for
doing this. Best of luck this season, we'll do it again.
Thanks so much, Lincoln.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
Thank you very time.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Lincoln Griffin had a terrific season last year with the
Cincinnati Cyclones, now getting set for the first season under
Riley Weslowski. First face off on Saturday Night, Puck's gonna
drop at seven point thirty. By the way, first five
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First face off against the Wheeling Nailers. There you go excited.
Excited to see Riley Weslowski. I've enjoyed listening to him
chat over the last few weeks about his goals for
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It's time to talk sports and money with our friend
Amy Wagner. Amy Wagner Wealth advisor from Dean Dorton Private Wealth.
You can learn more about Dean Doorton at deandortonwealth dot com.
It's always awesome to have you. Here's what I want
to ask you about. Okay, So every year CNBC comes

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out with their list of like NFL franchise values and
you know, you see this or you see this. Every
year with the start of the baseball season they come
out with their list of MLB franchise values. The Bengals,
for instance, worth over six billion dollars, which is a
lot of money. On the other hand, twenty nine NFL
teams are worth more. The Reds are worth one point

(58:05):
five billion dollars. That's a lot of money. It's a franchise, however,
that people criticize them for being cheap.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
So I'm going to start with this.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Explain for me the difference between a franchise's valuation and
what they might be able to spend on stuff like players.

Speaker 18 (58:22):
I mean, I think that you know, five billion, six
billion sounds like a lot of money, But you're a
little bit lacking some perspective there sometimes, you know, and
also you know, for comparison's sake, the largest team or
the largest team valuation, the Cowboys have more than doubled.
But the Bengals are worth the average team in the
NFL seven point six five billion. So we're below average here.

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And you know, I think you have to understand there's.

Speaker 19 (58:46):
Several layers of this.

Speaker 18 (58:47):
One of them is there's certain pot of money that
every team gets to split, right, TV licensing and sponsorships.
Those proceeds are shared evenly among thirty two franchise teams,
to the tune of about four hundred and thirty three
million a team.

Speaker 19 (59:03):
So what's the difference.

Speaker 18 (59:04):
Well, everyone has different stadiums, stadium financing deals.

Speaker 19 (59:09):
We could spend days.

Speaker 18 (59:11):
Here just talking about paycore, the Bangles, Hamilton County in
that whole deal. But I think it's really important to
understand that when you're looking at these valuations, there's tangibles
and then there's intangibles. Right, you can you can figure
out how much a stadium is worth, You can figure
out how much the equipment that the Bengals own are.

Speaker 19 (59:30):
You can even look at how much. You know, their
payroll is worth.

Speaker 18 (59:33):
Right, But then there's intangibles, and I think that's what
makes it. The difference between where the Bengals are and
where the Cowboys are, Right, we'll just use them as
the other team in this example. And in the intangible
is things like brand right, like the it factor, you know.
I mean there's you know, Cowboys fans who are from

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here who have no reason to be Cowboys fans. What
they just are because the team is iconic, the cheerleaders
are iconic, their costumes are iconic. And somehow along the
way a marketing machine was put into place in Dallas
that build that that builds out that iconic status. And
I would argue nothing against the Brown family that maybe

(01:00:20):
something along those lines.

Speaker 19 (01:00:22):
Could be a little bit.

Speaker 18 (01:00:23):
Lacking here in Cincinnati, reading we have players that everyone
wants to talk about. Now, I mean, well, Joe Burrow
being hurt obviously is an issue. But I mean you've
got your Jamar Chase as, your Tea's, your Trey Hendrickson's,
You've got great players that people want to talk about.
But when you remove those players from the conversation, what
is the Bengals organization? What does it stand for what

(01:00:46):
is it all about? I think many fans would kind
of be scratching their heads with that answer.

Speaker 20 (01:00:52):
I don't know what.

Speaker 19 (01:00:52):
Would you say?

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Well, I mean, I look at it from a very
sort of basic perspective when you here the Bengals don't
have the money that Jerry Jones does, or that the
New York Giants might write, or that the New England
Patriots too, like, that's all well and good. They still
have a franchise worth six billion dollars. And so you
mentioned the stadium thing. There's a lot of folks and

(01:01:14):
I've evolved my way of thinking because I used to
be completely opposed to the idea the taxpayers should fund
pro sports stadiums. Now I don't quite feel exactly the same,
but it would be nice if they would kick in
more money for their stadiums. And so people will say,
on the other end of that screw that I shouldn't
have to pay for the Bengals stadium. The Brown family

(01:01:35):
has a franchise worth six billion dollars. Others will say
that doesn't mean that they can afford to pay their stadium,
pay for their stadium on their own.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
So which is it?

Speaker 12 (01:01:45):
Well?

Speaker 18 (01:01:45):
And I think you can look at any business. Since
you have this business and it's worth X dollars, that
doesn't mean it's liquid. It doesn't mean you've got all
this money coming out of your pockets and out of
your pores that you have just to spend on things.
You know, I mean there is at there. And you know,
I don't just think the Bengals don't necessarily have that gap.

(01:02:05):
I mean the gap is going to be in that
intangible place because everyone's going to have not the same
fixed expenses, differing fixed expenses depending on like how expensive
your stadium is. But you know, and I think also listen,
I do not want to get in the middle it is.
I would rather talk politics than talk Hamilton County stadium deal.
But you and I have had the conversation before too

(01:02:27):
of you can't ignore the spillover that happens, the economic
impact that even the Bengels during this season will bring
to the tri state area. Detroit a few weeks ago, right,
even if they weren't Bengals fans, there were Detroit fans
every we were in Newport and Covington that day. They
were everywhere, staying in hotel rooms, flying in, driving in,

(01:02:50):
filling up their guest tanks here in Cincinnati, eating, going
to all the bars, all those places, right, and so
that economic impact spillover does packed our economy locally for
the positive. I know lots of people who same thing.
They're like, I don't care about the Bengals. Why am
I paying this tax? I would argue, And maybe this

(01:03:11):
is kind of where you've evolved over the years, and
you're thinking, we still all benefit from the economic impact
of the Bengals franchise of having the Cincinnati Reds here.

Speaker 19 (01:03:21):
You move them to.

Speaker 18 (01:03:22):
A different market and it has an undeniable impact on
our economy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
My my change, my thinking change when the Bengals went
to the Super Bowl, because I felt like that the
branding of Cincinnati was important, right, the story of Cincinnati
being told nationally was important, and that happened on the
on the tails of the Bengals. With baseball, like baseball
is different, right with football, it's it's direct revenue sharing.

(01:03:47):
Most of all the revenue gets thrown into the exact
same pot. It's it's not quite the same in Major
League Baseball. And so what do you say to the
Reds fan who's like, look, all right, the Bob Casteline.
He bought the team and paid like two hundred and
eighty million. The French itself is worth one point five
and yet we still have, you know, we're still on
the lower rank, the lower rung of what teams pay
for players. They have one point five billion dollars in worth,

(01:04:10):
So why can't they Why can't they double what they're
spending on players? What do you say to that thing?

Speaker 18 (01:04:15):
Well, and I think there's a percentage of money that's
available right for these payrolls. I mean, we can go
back to the fact that the Dodgers have their payrolls
five times more what the Reds have, but also the
team valuation, the team is worth so much more.

Speaker 19 (01:04:32):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 18 (01:04:33):
I don't know how we got kind of the bad
end the deal here in Cincinnati, but I mean when
you look at the rankings, of course, you know, across
MLB and NFL teams, we're at the bottom of the
barrel for both. We're smaller market, but there's also other
probably comparably sized markets that are doing somewhat better than
Cincinnati is in these rankings, you know, And I think

(01:04:54):
you can look at the dollar amount and say, why
can't we spend more. But I think you also have
to look at where we're ranked on that list and saying, Okay,
if the Dodgers are spending you know, five hundred million
or whatever that number is, and we're at a one
hundred and twenty eight every year, what's the difference.

Speaker 19 (01:05:11):
Well, they have more money. I mean, they just have
more money.

Speaker 18 (01:05:14):
And so I don't think you can look at that
bottom line number and say that's a lot of money.

Speaker 19 (01:05:17):
We should be spending more, you know.

Speaker 18 (01:05:20):
And I don't know what their margins are, you know,
I don't know anything like that necessarily. But unfortunately we're
at the bottom of the barrel in booklets.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
And that's the thing like pro sports teams don't have
to open up their books, which makes it, I think,
from a fan perspective, doubly frustrating.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Let's talk about this is what's interesting to me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
You're a Kentucky fan, but your favorite college football players
Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
And it doesn't have much to do with his play
on the field.

Speaker 18 (01:05:44):
Yeah, I mean, never what I have ever thought I
would be talking about a Hoosier in such great like
But you know, you and I have talked before about
the fact that the average career span of an NFL
player is three point three years, and we've even seen
stats that say, like, hey, you know, so a few
years removed from the league, many of them have nothing
to show for the fact that they made millions and

(01:06:06):
millions of dollars. So their quarterback, Fernando Mendoza, this kid
is insanely smart. He went to CAL and got into
a really impressive business school there, and as the story goes,
he would go to practice from five thirty to ten
thirty every morning and then drive across town to an
internship all day long and a really impressive investment bank

(01:06:28):
plays and then come back to the stadium and do
all the cold plunging and you know, watching reels, watching
game tape videos, and so his whole life has been
both football and also academics at the highest level. And
when I worry about often, right these players and how
they're going to react to these insane incomes that they're making,

(01:06:52):
this is someone who has the business acumen, the financial
background to make sure that he's fine. In fact, like
quick story, so when he announced that he was leaving
from Cow to come to IU for grad school, Cal
was like, well, you were on a full ride scholarship,
but you've.

Speaker 19 (01:07:06):
Got to pay for these classes while you're here.

Speaker 18 (01:07:07):
This last semester he used nil money that he was
going to get right a lot more from IU.

Speaker 19 (01:07:13):
To help pay for that.

Speaker 18 (01:07:14):
But also his dad had a conversation with him about, Hey,
this nil money that you're getting feels like a lot
right now you are like front and center IU. There
are tax implications to that, And we've also had conversations
about our concerns that we have now kids eighteen nineteen
year old running around making forty thousand or one hundred

(01:07:34):
thousand where they never would before, and maybe they don't
have the backgrounds, you know, the business classes, that the
personal finance classes to know how to deal with that.
So I just think it's great to highlight someone who,
let's watch this kid.

Speaker 19 (01:07:48):
He's probably going to go pretty high up.

Speaker 18 (01:07:51):
In the draft in the NFL, and he's probably going
to make some insanely smart decisions that may not only
set up just his family, but we can talk.

Speaker 19 (01:07:58):
About generational wealth.

Speaker 18 (01:08:00):
Right when you start making smart decisions, when that first
paycheck comes in, that's not only changing you and your children,
that's your children's children and that's really understanding how these
concepts work together.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Fernando Mendoza quarterback of the third RDE team in the country.
But you don't see many of these guys profiled in
the Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Yeah, you brought this into me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
He's profiled as the finance nerd who might be college
football's next great quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
So check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Business school grad who's been an intern at an investment firms.
I have not seen his LinkedIn profile, but apparently he's like,
after all, only.

Speaker 19 (01:08:34):
Social media that he has.

Speaker 18 (01:08:36):
You think about the hype that so many of these
players have on their social media accounts right their Instagram,
their tiktoks, the or whatever.

Speaker 19 (01:08:42):
I mean.

Speaker 18 (01:08:43):
He is so laser focused on his academics and his
career that that's the only social media he has and
by the way, most efficient passer and.

Speaker 19 (01:08:51):
Major college football right now. So it's like he is
equally successful.

Speaker 18 (01:08:55):
Rarely does anyone kind of reach that altitude on either
academics or athletics.

Speaker 9 (01:09:00):
He's reached it.

Speaker 18 (01:09:00):
In both places, you know, and I'm happy to cheer
for Hoosier who's in that kind of place.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I think it's fun that Indiana's good and now a
quarterback who's easy to root for. Amy Wagner Wealth Advisor
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Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
One in five baby, but shunning upward.

Speaker 13 (01:10:21):
Yes, yes, there is hope. There is hope. There is
always hope.

Speaker 21 (01:10:26):
And many still got more than half the fantasy than
left right, especially in league, we're half half the team's naked.

Speaker 13 (01:10:32):
You're still in that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Still, I'm still there, glimmer of hope. I'm clinging to it.
Maybe you can provide some more. Uh, all right, So
we're we're six weeks into this, it's week seven. Folks
are looking for, you know, possible trade targets. Guys like
that give me some possibilities.

Speaker 21 (01:10:50):
Yeah, I mean, obviously value is always in the eye
to be older, so all these things are different.

Speaker 13 (01:10:55):
But you want to try to find.

Speaker 21 (01:10:56):
Players with ump side. But maybe they're not really having
so much right now, sort of that by low mentality,
or maybe buy before they get a higher mentality in
the case of something he's got.

Speaker 13 (01:11:06):
So let's take quarterback. I like Jackson guard there, I
mean the rookie. He's passing the eyeballs. Oh and I
can I help think what he'll be doing the league.

Speaker 21 (01:11:14):
Neighbors was still in the lineup, but nonetheless because you're
rushing for the big playability that's gonna lead us a
big scoring week.

Speaker 13 (01:11:21):
I mean, I'm hard pressed the name twote quarterbacks. I
like vettering in fantasy and the rest.

Speaker 21 (01:11:24):
Of the season, so that making the starter I believe.
So Kenneth Walker is a third. He's by running back
to target fifty fifty splitty salmon right now with Zach
Sharvion is definitely a little bit frustrating. Sharbone played fourteen
more snatching him against the Jags last week, but a
broally boiled Towns had had success rate forty two success
rate per Pro Football Focus. For Kenneth Walker when he

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runs the ball to just thirty two success right there,
he's had a running back. I think he's gonna have
a bigger second half.

Speaker 13 (01:11:50):
Now some time to buy a low jefon Diggs.

Speaker 21 (01:11:53):
He looked pretty good and took him a little slow
time to get started in his first little coming backers
in thc of injury, but with the way that all
defensive looking Drake Mays on fire three to twenty eight
for last week, had a couple of receivers there have
big games. I think this could be the last chance
to buy a low on Diggs, who I view as
the potential top twenty receiver down the stretch and brock Powers.

Speaker 13 (01:12:12):
You know, we always like to pick on the injured guys.

Speaker 21 (01:12:14):
I think it's a few weeks before he comes back,
so you're gonna have to be patient here.

Speaker 13 (01:12:18):
But chances are his owners.

Speaker 21 (01:12:20):
Don't have a very good record. They might be willing
to selling for Penning's on the dollars. And I'm still
a believer in.

Speaker 13 (01:12:24):
The second half, this guy is going to be a
tight end as the league winner.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
All right, well, you mentioned an injured player, so let's
run through the more notable Week seven injuries.

Speaker 12 (01:12:35):
Yeah, well, I.

Speaker 21 (01:12:36):
Mean every week now we lose another stud receiver. Last
week's in addition, the best of all, the guy we
talked up last week about being the eurocheason here, made Jinks.
I don't know, but Phukinakua multiple week injury here with
an ankle injury, a pretty severe one there.

Speaker 13 (01:12:51):
I don't expect any play this week. We'll see Devonte I.

Speaker 21 (01:12:53):
I'm sure they have a lot of targets on him
his way. Meanwhile, Amiko Kabuka, one of my favorite rookie
breakout players, also added to the injury list. You're joining
pretty much the entire Tampa Bay Bucks team because Tucky Irving,
Mike Vans, Chris Godwin, they're all still a little hobbled here.

Speaker 13 (01:13:07):
We're going to have to track.

Speaker 21 (01:13:08):
This one all the way after kickoff. But certainly not
good news there for managers counting on any of them.
Marvin Harrison Junior didn't have the return he was open
in even you know his dad played as a kid.
He's to staying a concussion. He is in concussion proto
call and looking tis for this week there. Jarrett Wilson's
going to miss a couple of weeks for the judges
offense most terribly whipping or even worse with doubt him,

(01:13:32):
so you know he's out of service.

Speaker 13 (01:13:33):
DJ Moore, We're going to see what's up.

Speaker 21 (01:13:35):
He was hospitalized after Monday night. Didn't get a lot
of information on that yet. Listed with the growing issue,
Juvin Ridley with the answering, Ricky Piersoll with the knee.

Speaker 13 (01:13:44):
Like I said, the wide out injuries are really really
piling up at tight end. It's a little bit better
than he is there. George K Diners, He's going to be.

Speaker 21 (01:13:51):
A limited participant today if he doesn't stuff for any
setbacks this week he could return and likely will return
here a week seven Dolf King Katie's and concussion profile
of the mentioned Bowers out a couple of weeks with
the the issue and.

Speaker 13 (01:14:02):
Then quarterback Tyler Murray.

Speaker 21 (01:14:04):
They might sitting again, especially as well as Jakoby Prest
played last week and their quarterback he's been with the
foot issue in brock Berdy, like George Kittle, a limited
participant slated for today. We'll see how would go if
not Pac Jones another week under center.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
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Speaker 21 (01:14:27):
Yeah, well, I hit it on it at the top here,
but really love in the way Drake May's playing some
football right now. The second year quarterbacks matchup first the
Titans this week. I knew he had the rushing outside
the twenty three yards per game, but it's man, it's
been real nice to see what he's done through the air.
He's cost multiple touchdowns and bob his last five and
nine to one TV ratio and that stretch. I looked

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for multiple scores again this week. Another solid day Top
five play a quarterback.

Speaker 13 (01:14:53):
One of my studs of the week has to be
Rossie Wright. Pretty excited.

Speaker 21 (01:14:57):
I'm sure you are if you got him stashed on
your bench.

Speaker 13 (01:15:00):
Business game suspension's over.

Speaker 21 (01:15:02):
I look for them to immediately get him involved in
this offense.

Speaker 13 (01:15:06):
And Patrick Mahomes chomping at the bid to take out
his Ferrari out of the garage here and they get
a Raiders team giving up the six month chanashion.

Speaker 21 (01:15:14):
Points why I got even wide receiver aid right out
of the gate, So I'm feeling.

Speaker 13 (01:15:19):
Pretty bolish on the Dutch side.

Speaker 21 (01:15:21):
Can't feel it strongly about Alvin Kamara.

Speaker 13 (01:15:23):
He hasn't scored since Weak one.

Speaker 21 (01:15:25):
He's only get fifteen PPR points one all season.

Speaker 13 (01:15:28):
He's even scored double. He hasn't even got the double digits.
I said they in two of his last four games.

Speaker 21 (01:15:33):
So he can that face a touch time against what
I think is an improving Bears defense.

Speaker 13 (01:15:37):
To Kuby Meyers, another guy he's taken a sheet this
week for me.

Speaker 21 (01:15:41):
I like him coming the end of the season, but
hasn't come to fruition. He's been below ten PPR points
and eat the last four games, and after starting the
season with thirty and twenty percent target shaers.

Speaker 13 (01:15:51):
He ben below the twenty percent market and target share
and eats in the last four.

Speaker 21 (01:15:55):
He's on the bench and a couple of deeper sleepers
here now because people need to sleep out there and
perhaps some waiver wires. Canada Chairman Tys spears for the
New in or excuse me for Tennessee Titans playing New
England this week.

Speaker 13 (01:16:10):
He out Stantony.

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Howard thirty six and twenty six against the Raiders last week,
ran twice as many routes. I think they're coming from behind.
I think he's in HARDV three flex play this week
and Michael Mayer the Covington camp a love. He looked
good last week, scoring that touchdown with Brob Powery down
a couple more weeks, we saw a thirty two percent
target chair Last week for a Tennessee he ran around

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on eighty percent of the passes. I got him a
tight end twelve this week. I think he's a sneaky
play versus the Chiefs.

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Michael Mayer, cuv Cath. I root like hell for him.
Hope it continues to work out. Let's talk about something happening.
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Oh what a better way to spend.

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Happy birthday to Kelly, and I hope this isn't the
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We have a lot to get to our buddy Andrew
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(01:19:25):
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There's a lot between now in six Bengals game plan
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(01:19:46):
would be your news of the day and you could
do what you want with it. But the Bengals are
not ruling out Trey Hendrickson tomorrow listed as questionable on
the injury report. Now, obviously, Mi Kasicki was put on
IR today known since Monday he ain't gonna play for
a while. Tanner Hudson has been ruled out still in
concussion protocol, Charlie Jones questionable with that rib issue. Lucas Patrick,

(01:20:10):
who's still on IR, is listed as questionable as well,
but they're at least as of today, the day before
the game, not ruling out Trey Hendrickson. Now, this certainly
doesn't guarantee that he will play. If he does play,
he may be on some sort of snap count. The
expectation is Shamar Stewart's gonna play. We will see. But
I think relative to how a lot of us felt

(01:20:32):
yesterday where it kind of felt like this is trending
toward maybe Trey being inactive, they.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Haven't ruled about. So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Bengals and Steelers tomorrow, by the way, tomorrow, and I
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Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
It's gonna be absolutely awesome. Richard Skinner is awesome. He's
gonna to join us, coming up in just about fifteen minutes.
I spend some time. We've been really busy today with
guess I spent some time at the top of the
show talking about what day've done with Logan Wilson. Logan
Wilson has meant a lot to the Bengals. Logan Wilson,
the way he has handled his benching publicly and by

(01:21:17):
all accounts, the way he has handled it privately, is admirable.
I don't think Logan has played terribly. I would stop
short of saying that Logan has played great. I can
get behind, though, the Bengals doing something that's kind of
Unbengal like, which is, you know, we know what Logan

(01:21:39):
Wilson is. He's reliable, he's steady, he's continuity, those things
that the Bengals value, maybe more than any other. But
you know what, maybe there's more upside with Barrett Carter.
Our defense stinks. There's only so many areas where we
have another option. So we're gonna try it here. If
it doesn't work, okay, Hey, can the Bengals defense really

(01:22:01):
get any worse? If it does work, cool, then you
feel better about a guy you used a draft pick on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
So we will see.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Let's talk Steelers with a guy we get on the
show every time the Bengals play the Steelers. Andrew Philipponi
ninety three to seven fan in Pittsburgh. Let's start with
this how would you encapsulate the Aaron Rodgers experience?

Speaker 22 (01:22:21):
So far, way better than I thought it would go.
I have enjoyed it almost from the second actually from
the very beginning MO his first game against the Jets,
his old team. Four touchdowns in that game, Steelers put
up more than thirty points.

Speaker 12 (01:22:39):
It was like we.

Speaker 22 (01:22:42):
Rediscovered what watching competent quarterback play was like in that
game after being in the wilderness for about a half
decade post Ben And really, look, they've not been stay
a dynamic, high octane offense or anything like that, but

(01:23:03):
we do see in almost every game, whether it's with
his arm talent, with his mind, his football brain, some
combination of both, we still see hints and clues that
he's got that old Aaron Rodgers, four time MVP in him.

(01:23:26):
And it doesn't come out consistently over fifty offensive plays
per se, but he has been a breath of fresh
air for the Steelers moment. If I had to choose
right now, I would say bring him back next year
and run it back with him. At forty two years old.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
He's completed a ton of his passes. They don't go
very far. Is that going to be the moll season?

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Longer. Do they hope to build upon that, Well, they.

Speaker 22 (01:23:54):
Definitely hope to build upon that. I think there's a
few things in play here. The offensive line was wretched
at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 12 (01:24:00):
It was terrible.

Speaker 22 (01:24:01):
It looked like the Bengals offensive line for the first
few weeks. And he was getting hit a lot. Not
a ton of sacks, but was getting hit a lot.

Speaker 14 (01:24:09):
I had to get the.

Speaker 12 (01:24:10):
Ball out quickly to survive.

Speaker 22 (01:24:12):
And the offense was I think schemed and designed to
cover up for their offensive line deficiencies. They couldn't run
the ball in those first few games either. Now, I
do think talking about his arm, we saw it a
couple times against the Browns on Sunday. He's just not
as accurate on the deep ball as he used to be.
I mean, there are a few deep ball throwers that

(01:24:34):
have been better than him historically. I don't think we
see that.

Speaker 14 (01:24:37):
I think that's.

Speaker 22 (01:24:38):
Probably one area where his game has regressed at this age.
And you know, they needed to make a decision. They
decided because their run game, like I said, was so
lacking that the last two games here against the Vikings
and against the Browns, they have gone with this jumbo package,

(01:24:58):
big package of the sixth offensive linemen and Darnell Wantington,
who's the biggest guy on the team. They're tight end.
And they have installed both of those guys into their offense,
and they've run for over one hundred yards in the
last two games, and their offenses function much better in general.
So they have for now they have put kind of

(01:25:19):
Aaron Rodgers downfield, Aaron Rodgers gunslinger. That's on the back burner,
and their biggest point of emphasis is running the ball
with those big guys.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Andrew Philipponi with us from Pittsburgh ninety three to seven
The Fan. You ran a Twitter poll it just expired,
asking Steelers fans are you worried about Joe Flacco?

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Twitter poles are never fifty to fifty. This is literally
fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Half the Steelers fans, over twenty three hundred votes say
they're worried about Joe Flacco.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Should they be?

Speaker 22 (01:25:48):
I don't think so, because it's not Joe Flacco in
a vacuum. It's not Joe Flacco. Last year off the
bench against the Steelers in Indianapolis, when they had prepped
all week for Anthony richardson a mobile quarterback with a
good offensive line, Jonathan Taylor, and wide receivers that could
beat you. Not anywhere close to as good as Cincinnati,

(01:26:09):
but still decent players. This is Joe Flacco with probably
the worst rushing attack in NFL history and an offensive
line that is very subpar, and I think those ingredients
make the matchup much different. I also think that Steelers
defense in the year plus in the thirteen months since

(01:26:31):
they last saw Joe Flacco, has actually gotten substantially better.
You've got Derek Harmon up front, a rookie who since
he returned from knee injury, has been outstanding. Nick Herbig,
their third edge rusher from Wisconsin, has been a star,
really a guy that's gotten to a level now where
I don't think they can keep him off the field anymore.

(01:26:53):
He's just been that much of a disruptive player. And
Jalen Ramsey from Miami in that trade they made send
Minka there has been I would say the Rams version
of Jalen Ramsey, the guy that helped them win a
Super Bowl, playing safety, playing flat corner, playing outside corner.
Had two sacks in the game against Cleveland, more than

(01:27:14):
milescare and TJ. Watt combined, so their defense right now
looks like the real deal, and I think that that's
going to present problems for Joe Flacco.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Yeah, I fear that you're right. I hope you're wrong.
Andrew Philipponi ninety three to seven The Fan in Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 14 (01:29:46):
Ty Skinny, Hey Moe, how are you?

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
I have?

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
I've really never been better? How about yourself?

Speaker 14 (01:29:54):
I think I'm the same.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
It's Trey Hendrickson gonna play.

Speaker 14 (01:29:58):
I don't know, man, it is.

Speaker 12 (01:30:00):
It was left very vague on Monday.

Speaker 14 (01:30:02):
I kind of expect, honestly, the way he walked off,
and you know you're ruled out at halftime of a game.
Turn around playgan on Thursday usually doesn't take place. Initially,
it was his back. Today on the official report it
was his hip, and so I'm gonna guess this will
be Let's see what he looks like in pregame. You know,
if you could get fifteen to twenty snaps out of

(01:30:23):
in situational maybe it comes to that. So yeah. I mean,
the fact they didn't rule him out certainly gives you
a chance to put him in some level of a role,
but nowhere near. You know, he only plays about seventy
five percent of STAPs, Sandy, we probably not even close to
that if he goes at all.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
I'm not upset that they're benching Logan Wilson in favor
of Barrett Carter, because you know what, this is a
league where draft picks have to give you something as
soon as possible. Logan Wilson might not have been playing poorly,
but it's not like he was rewriting history at the
linebacker position. And it feels like he is handling this well,
I'm okay with this? Should I be?

Speaker 12 (01:31:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:31:01):
And I'll be honest with you. You know, our friend
Paul Danner Junior does a preseason podcast that did it
at Tom's watch Bar, and he asked us all to
you know, buy and sell a player, And I said,
you know, sadly, I'm selling Logan Wilson. They wouldn't shock
me by week six if he's not a starter any longer.
And it and it came into fruition.

Speaker 19 (01:31:18):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:31:18):
The weird prot wasmo I thought I was eating my words.
Is the way he played in Week one in Cleveland.
I thought he played really well. You know, that was
even after he went off with you know, they have
a concussion protocol to be evaluated for one and it's
just I mean, I blurted out in the Denver press
box on one run. I don't know why I yelled
it so loud, but I did. It was blank blank
logan take a better angle, and it just it's just
not wor it just wasn't working any longer. And I

(01:31:40):
do think to that point that that they needed a spark.
They needed something different. Now, something different also looks like
you look like on the Josh Jacobs touchdown run where
the Metrius Knight goes to one sea gap and Comparett
Carter goes to the other sea gap and nobody's in
the middle of the field. You can let that happen
once or twice because they're rookies, but you can't have
that happen much more.

Speaker 11 (01:32:00):
But I'm with you.

Speaker 14 (01:32:02):
It gives you more athleticism. It just gives you something different,
and I think they need anything different at this point
on that side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
I have spent his entire NFL career, feeling nothing when
it came to Joe Flacco. Appreciate the longevity, Appreciate what
he's done. It's hard to play that long in the league.
He's kind of bounced around. On Friday, I became a
fan because I just saw somebody who appreciated the absurdity
of the situation that he's in and you know it
is going to make the most of it. And as
that game went forward on Sunday, he did, I'm team

(01:32:31):
Joe Flacco, Skinny no Man.

Speaker 14 (01:32:34):
After the game, I wrote a column of you know,
the competence of quarterback now has given you some legitimate
reason for hope in turning things around now. I also
cited the defense needing to step forward too, and that's
a big step they have to take at this point.

Speaker 12 (01:32:48):
I'm not fully.

Speaker 14 (01:32:48):
Confident in that, but yeah, you know what they did
from the last drive of the first half on was
was him starting to feel all right, let me just
take this easy completion here for eight yards and let
me start to trust where Jamar is going to be
in T's one. If it's one thing to know what
they are. He knows what they are, he knows how
good they are. But he had twelve practice reps with
Jamar Chase before that game. So even though you believe

(01:33:11):
in trust he's gonna be where I need the ball
to go, until you see it happen, you really don't
probably fully have that trust. And then you see it
happen and you go, huh. I mean he even made
a point of one coming to the sideline one point
Tony Jake Bronning. I mean, like these guys snatch the ball.
They don't just catch it, they snatch it. And he said,
you know, I made a bad throat at Jamal on
one thing and he just pucked it out of the air.
And so I think that's the thing. You saw that

(01:33:32):
report take place, you know, eighty and Jamar had twelve
with or fifteen catches in the second half. I don't
think that's the coincidence. I think it was Joe Flacco realizing,
all right, here's what I got to work with, and
then when the coverage dictated, goes somewhere else. Oh, here's
an eight yard checkdown to this guy or a seven
yard pass to this tight end. And I think they
found something there. They found some of the things he does. Well,
I'm sure they found some things he didn't do so well.

(01:33:54):
And now this week, instead of having a game plan
in before he even showed up, you've got a game
plan hopefully tailored more toward him.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Yeah, there has been this like surge of optimism through
the fan base, and I don't want to temper it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
I don't know how they're going to run the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
I don't know if the offensive line play we saw
in the second half is going to hold up. But
they at least planted some seeds for success. And now,
you know the difference between three and four and two
and five seems absolutely massive.

Speaker 14 (01:34:22):
Well, and that's just it. I mean to your point
that the seeds of hope are there, but you now
have to go pay that hope off with this win.
You know, we thow must win games around all the time,
like this is a must win game, but this is
it's really few. It is for this reason. Mo. You're
not mathematically eliminating, you're not out of anything. But you
came off four losses, three of which were ugly, and

(01:34:43):
the last one where you got a glimmer of hope,
and you think, okay, come home and win these three
games at home. Get the five and four to buy
and off we go. Well, you got to win to
do that, and so that's why I think this is
a must win game two and five. The math comes.
It's hard, man. You're now four games in the lost
column behind you know, you're in a muddle group of
the rest of the AFC. And even at that point,
if you lose to go to two and five and

(01:35:05):
it's five straight losses, I think then you're just left
with a bad football team. And I don't think that.
I don't think there's any other conclusion you can make.
So this to me is a must win for all
of those reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
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Las starting pitching the first two nights has been unbelievable.
Whether you went to Miami University or not, I think
you're gonna love this. Cradle of Coaches is a documentary
that is being produced by Resolve and it celebrates Miami's
football history and if you know anything about college football
in this area, you are familiar with all the figures

(01:39:33):
whose coaching careers included stops successful stops in some way,
shape or form at Miami, at Miami University. And the
last trailer for this project that I saw came out
in late July and it looks awesome, and so I
wanted to have in studio to talk about the project,
which I cannot wait for. Scott Thompson and Jesse Herron
from Resolve, It's nice to have you, folks.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
How are we doing good?

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
You you brought cigars. I'm great.

Speaker 9 (01:40:00):
And allying you in Jersey tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Yes, yes, you're gonna buy me a light jersey tomorrow.

Speaker 23 (01:40:05):
That's gonna be. That's gonna be terrific. How are we
doing love and life. Yeah, love in Miami. This is big,
this huge, this is good.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
This is the sort of of project and it looks
awesome that quite frankly, I can't believe hasn't already been done.

Speaker 9 (01:40:20):
We've heard that quite a few times.

Speaker 20 (01:40:22):
Actually, I think it's kind of amazing that it hasn't
been done before.

Speaker 9 (01:40:25):
People have talked about, oh, I.

Speaker 20 (01:40:27):
Wanted to do this project, but it really came from
passion with Alicia Lipton, our client at Miami University. I
think it also stems from the fact that, you know,
she is the niece of Ara Parsigan, so there's that
connection there. He's one of the statues of the ten Statues,
and then President Crawford, Greg Crawford, he you know, he

(01:40:47):
has a connection to the statues and he also has
a connection with Notre Dame.

Speaker 9 (01:40:51):
So it's a natural fit. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
You've gotten like who's who, not just of Miami football,
but of of the football world to participate in this project.

Speaker 23 (01:41:01):
And we still have probably three more travel shoots that
we have to do. Next week, we're going to Connecticut
to interview Chris Berman. Wow, people are saying, why Chris Berman,
that's really weird. Well, karm Koza is one of the coaches.
One of the statues Karen was at Yale for those years.
Chris was friends with him, being through Yale, a lot

(01:41:21):
of Connecticut connections. I'm going to interview two of the
players that played for Karen, and then we're heading to
LSU and then Button Rouge for Paul Ditel. Oh wow,
and doing a couple of guys down there. But I mean,
it's the people that we've been able to access every time.
And Jesse can speak to this too because she's producing.
This is the access has always been, like, you know,

(01:41:42):
we'll call the Rams, we'll call the Ravens and they'll say,
you know, hey, Sean McVay, you can have them for
twenty minutes, and we say we need ninety we need
an hour and a half, and they laughed at us.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
They do laugh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:41:56):
And then we say, okay, well tell Sean it's from Miami.
And then we get a call back and said, okay,
when you guys gonna be here, gonna have all day
with them.

Speaker 5 (01:42:02):
Wow.

Speaker 23 (01:42:02):
These guys just they love Miami so much. That and
the same with Harba. Harboy sat down and was like,
I'm here all day for you guys, what are you real?
It's just chat for hours. Yeah, they just love it.

Speaker 20 (01:42:11):
And he sang the fight song, which I think is
probably one of my favorite moments behind the scenes moments,
is he just sat down and we started talking. We
brought up the fight song and he just started singing
it the full fight song.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
That's pretty cool. Yeah, is spending all that time with
you guys? Why he like hasn't fixed his defense?

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
No fair or months ago, he might have a lot
of time.

Speaker 23 (01:42:36):
Yeah, I see these headlines and like, well, zach Orr
is on the chopping block. I'm like, no, please, let's waite.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
So, like, we we know the figures, right, we know
that all the figures the Cradle of Coaches. Well but
that but that was going to be my thing. I
think a lot of us have surface level knowledge. But
then you do a deep dive and I'm sure that
that's what the documentary is going to do. But give
us some things that maybe going into this you're like, wow,
I didn't know that.

Speaker 23 (01:42:59):
I think it's a guy. Well, look, I'm not from
here originally, but I lived here twenty six years.

Speaker 5 (01:43:03):
This is home for me.

Speaker 23 (01:43:04):
But you know, it's the names like era, you know,
I think, I think Paul Brown is Ohio. But then
when you think about like, well, you think about Era,
and you think all I knew from Er was watching
Rudy and seeing Era in that and it was like, wow,
this guy's But I wasn't a huge I'm not a
I'm not a I'm not a Catholic, so I didn't
grow up loving Notre Dame. And then but I knew
who this guy was. And then I hear and then like, oh,

(01:43:25):
this guy absolutely bled Miami. This guy was all Miami.
And I'm thinking, no, this, this guy's Notre Dame. And
my believing Miami takes ownership of ERA, and ERA has
a huge history, and then with the Northwestern and and.

Speaker 5 (01:43:38):
And Notre Dame.

Speaker 23 (01:43:39):
But really everything started at Miami, right and you look
look at we View Bank, and I didn't really know
much about Web, but I knew that he was coach
of Super Bowl three, super Bowl three and NFL champion,
the greatest game ever played, And then you think, oh,
this is weep. We then moved back to Oxford, lived there,
had this old basement in the Houston. Players would come behind.

Speaker 20 (01:44:01):
The critique practices too, which I found to be really funny. Yeah,
they had like someone looking out for him, like when
his car was coming to practice. Yeah, and they would
like have somebody sound off an alarm or someone alert
like oh my god, he's coming, Like, don't run that
play because he's gonna critique it.

Speaker 6 (01:44:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:44:19):
I also want to add, like, you know, one of
the coaches that I thought was really interesting is coach
John Pott. I mean he actually went to Japan and
helped really like create football in Japan, which I think
is so really cool too.

Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
I started the program a Joe Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:44:35):
Yeah, I mean there's so many of those little anecdotes
that I was like, oh, huh, came from Miami. That's
really interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
So the project is being produced as we speak, and
so when could we expect to see it?

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
And where can we expect to see it?

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:44:51):
Good question on the where that is to be determined.

Speaker 20 (01:44:54):
So we're having some really great conversations and you know
when we were we were talking about this a little
bit yesterday, right, So the question where could we maybe
see it on like Hulu or a Netflix or you know,
that's the goal. The goal is to have it on
a streaming platform and it should be coming out fall.

Speaker 9 (01:45:07):
Of twenty twenty six. So that's the.

Speaker 20 (01:45:10):
Time frame I think leading up to that, right, we've
got different screenings and things that are going to be
coming through.

Speaker 9 (01:45:16):
I mean, we've had opportunities.

Speaker 20 (01:45:19):
So we talked with the one of the owners of
the Commanders, Mitch Rails, and he was like, yeah, of course, definitely,
let's have a screening here too.

Speaker 9 (01:45:25):
So the tentacles of this thing kind of spread out.

Speaker 20 (01:45:28):
It's not just the Cincinnati area because it did stem
from Miami University, but some of these people have obviously
gone on to the Raiders, the Dolphins, the Jaguars wherever.
So we've got a lot of tentacles in the NFL
and in college football.

Speaker 23 (01:45:41):
Yeah, Mitchrails is a Miami grad. Every time we there's
no roadblocks. Believe me, this is this project has been great.
But anytime we have a question, they go, oh, yeah,
well that guy, there's a Miami grad at NBC Sports,
there's a Miami grad at Netflix.

Speaker 5 (01:45:54):
We'll get you hooked up. Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:45:55):
I'm like, you know, I've been working in this business
twenty six years. That doesn't happen. You know, Normally you're like,
oh crap, I got to call every gatekeeper to get
to someone and I don't know who that person is. No, Yeah,
doors are wide open because it's Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
Yeah, that's that's pretty neat.

Speaker 5 (01:46:11):
We're relatively small school.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
No, you're sure, Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Uh, you know when you think of like broadcasting of
the Syracuse right, massive, Northeastern school huge, Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:46:21):
Even Ohio you know they're they're state, well Ohio University
that you know, their big rival has scripts has this
huge you know, and you would think, oh, this would
be easy with with you know, someone like that now
because it's it's all these through lines that we have
as leadership in at Miami. And it's not just football
leaders that you know, CEO of Starbucks currently Miami grad,

(01:46:41):
CEO of this company, CEO, the president of this company,
all Miami grads. Right, So it's it's actually knock on wood.
It's been pretty easy to get into these doors. Yeah,
you know, it's interesting. I mentioned this to you months
or so ago. We we've had interactions with two folks
in media that I had no idea were Miami. We
had Terrence More in our show. Few weeks I wrote
a new book about the big red machine. You talk

(01:47:03):
about somebody who wears their Miami pride on their sleeve.
And then Clinton Yates ESPN, who's on our on our air.
We had him on our show and he just mentioned.

Speaker 5 (01:47:12):
It to me.

Speaker 1 (01:47:12):
I had no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:47:13):
Yeah, because they're so humble.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
That's what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:47:15):
Yea, they are.

Speaker 23 (01:47:16):
I know, they're not boasting. And it's expectations too, is
you know. I think when you think about all these
guys and you think about, oh well, Terrence Moore and Clinton,
all these guys, You're like, oh, well, you know, it's
they come from a big school. They come from Texas,
Penn State, Ohio State or whatever. Nope, right, that little
school up in Oxford. Yeah, And I.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
Think what'll be cool about this is it's going to
tell a football story, but it's gonna tell a Miami
story that isn't necessarily about football.

Speaker 5 (01:47:40):
And high school in Ohio.

Speaker 23 (01:47:42):
Sure, football and in high school in Ohio, because it
is we have a farm system here that other states
don't have. Florida and Texas are going to say yeah,
But at this point, I'm like, let's be the first
one to come out and boast about it, because Ohio
and Miami aren't the ones that are saying we're the
best we're the best.

Speaker 5 (01:47:57):
We're the best.

Speaker 23 (01:47:59):
Texas and Florida say that all the time, Right, this
is our chance to get out there and say, no,
football is invented here.

Speaker 5 (01:48:04):
We own we owned football. Football belongs to us, absolutely,
that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
So next fall follow twenty twenty six. Apparently by then
I'll finish go through puberty fall of twenty twenty six, right,
and we'll be looking for it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:48:19):
And in the meantime you can get you know, additional content,
sneak peaks, those kinds of things on the Instagram channel.
So it's the Cradle of Coaches Instagram. But you really
can google Cradle of Coaches documentary at this point and
find a ton of our content, which is awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
And there it is, wow, very cool.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
You've established a new precedent that all in studio guests
have to bring cigars.

Speaker 23 (01:48:40):
A half box. A half box, Yeah, we would stand.
We would up with one.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
That would have been fine. I am excited to see this.

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
I texted you out of the blue, and normally if
I'm texting you to needle you about something, and I said,
like that that documentary trailer, which was not the first one, right,
looks there was a teaser. Yeah, looks terrific and I
genuinely can't wait to see this, and please keep us
up to date on how things are going. And of
course if I can help, I have no remote idea

(01:49:11):
a couple.

Speaker 9 (01:49:12):
Of doors that still need to be open. I'll definitely
be asking.

Speaker 5 (01:49:14):
You about something, probably somebody I know.

Speaker 20 (01:49:18):
I'm asking everybody about this I can't get Yeah, all.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
Right, Cradle of Coaches on Instagram or just pretty much
search it and folks.

Speaker 9 (01:49:25):
Can absolutely learn more about it. Absolutely.

Speaker 20 (01:49:28):
There's going to be a Cradle of Coaches game at
miam University too, so that's kind of fun. That's coming
up in November.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
Wow, okaytion game Action game, yep, I do love some
action now.

Speaker 9 (01:49:38):
Yeah, number twelve, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
No question about it, guys, thank you so much, thank you, Yeah,
Jesse Herron, Scott Thompson, Resolve Cradle of Coaches.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
Look for it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
The teaser does. It's going to make you, like me,
just sit there and go, man, when's this going to
come out? So it's going to be a while, but
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I noticed this and I'm gonna have to ask this
kid for lessons. Case Morgan from Elder to Come medalists
on is that the Marine Intercollegiate, which is hosted by Miami,

(01:51:04):
posted a fifty four whole score of two oh four,
which is nine under becomes the first avior golfer to
hit nine under part better since Corey Ward did that
thirteen years ago at the Marshall invite the golf coach.
The head golf coach men's golf coach at Xavier University
is Brian Arlinghouse.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
It's awesome to have you, coach. Good afternoon, How are.

Speaker 6 (01:51:23):
You good afternoon? Thanks for having me. Appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
I appreciate you doing this. This, this sort of outing
is awesome. How rare is it for a freshman?

Speaker 16 (01:51:35):
It's pretty rare for a freshman, But I don't he
may be a freshman in the academic world, but in
the golf world, he's way mature, beyond beyond most freshmen
that I've ever been around.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
All Right, walk me through the recruitment of a kid
to become a high end, Big East level golfer.

Speaker 16 (01:51:56):
Yeah, different story with Case I was. I was kind
of tipped off to him, maybe as freshman year elder,
long before I.

Speaker 6 (01:52:06):
Was able to make contact with him. But then you.

Speaker 16 (01:52:08):
Start like following him around and just trying to check
check on his body language, check on his preparation, try
to feel out like the family and as as as usual,
you find you find really really good players, right, and
you start the recruitment process, and then there's part of
you that wants them to do well, and there's part
of them, the part of you that wants them to

(01:52:29):
kind of not do as well since not many other
people start to follow him, right, And he was a
unique kid because I knew he was going to get
he was going to get really really really good, really.

Speaker 6 (01:52:40):
Really quickly, and that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 16 (01:52:43):
And there were a ton of ton of really really
big schools after him, and he ended up choosing Xavier.

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
So, yeah, your team wins the Marine Intercollegiate. You've won
three tournament titles over the last few years, also posted
six top three finishes over the last two seasons.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
It feels like you really have this program coming along.

Speaker 16 (01:53:05):
Yeah, thanks it we do. It's there's a good, good,
good core group of young men on this team. Everywhere
I've tried to just surround myself with good quality people
and that's kind of what we're about. And it's a
bunch of bunch of hard working guys that just believe
in each other. And I'm really really grateful and really
lucky and super blessed that they all trust me, they

(01:53:28):
trust the game plan that I put together. They believed
in the vision that I was telling them for the
program throughout the recruiting process, and this last week is
just one of the small little glimpses that you get into. Hey,
you're doing the right things. Things are moving into the
right direction. So we're really happy with the results.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
Dive into that vision for me and yeah, you're not
going to tell me the specific ins and outs. I
guess that you're going to outline for every recruit. But
but when you're sitting across from a kid trying to
get him to join him to join your program, what.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
Are you telling them?

Speaker 16 (01:54:00):
Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a lot of probably
what a lot of other coaches are talking about. However,
what we do is we put a really really large
emphasis on the mental.

Speaker 6 (01:54:11):
Aspect of of athletics.

Speaker 16 (01:54:13):
So these kids are all very physically gifted, very physically talented,
but a lot of them haven't really put tons of
effort into becoming a mastermind in athletics, right, So we
do a ton of that. We also talk about opportunity.
There might be nice opportunities at bigger schools, and a
lot of these athletes will will make decisions based on

(01:54:35):
the name on the side of the bag, and they're
they're they're kind of ego based decisions. The kids that
I'm looking for in the recruiting process have a lot
more blue collar work ethic.

Speaker 6 (01:54:44):
They're here to do work.

Speaker 16 (01:54:46):
They know what they're capable of, they know they're going
to be pushed hard, they.

Speaker 6 (01:54:51):
Know they're going to be held to a higher standard.

Speaker 16 (01:54:53):
And the accountability factor is not just coming from me,
it's coming from within. All of the guys on the
team will hold each other a able to a higher standard.

Speaker 6 (01:55:01):
So it's.

Speaker 16 (01:55:04):
You start to flush out a lot of the kids
that you think you want when you start to realize,
you know what, maybe there they might be a little
bit too entitled, right, or maybe if we push them
as hard as we push ourselves, they might not be
able to handle that.

Speaker 6 (01:55:16):
Right.

Speaker 16 (01:55:16):
So we try to be a little bit over the
top and tell them here so what's coming, and if
it doesn't scare them away, then we'll continue the recruitment process.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
How good is high school golf in this area.

Speaker 6 (01:55:29):
It's funny you asked that.

Speaker 16 (01:55:30):
I was just talking to some guys the other day
and they were talking about some winning scores from the
high school state championships back in the eighties, right, and
kids were shooting eighty three seventy seven and winning a
state title.

Speaker 6 (01:55:41):
And that doesn't happen anymore. The level of golf.

Speaker 16 (01:55:45):
At they're going to be strong net players nowadays. But
the level of golf, even at the high school level,
it's just.

Speaker 6 (01:55:55):
Through the roof.

Speaker 16 (01:55:56):
There are so many good players, not just in Scenati,
in the state of Ohio, in the country, and just
across the world. So the recruiting pool is super large,
but locally there's just every you know, once every five
ten years you get you get a special kid locally
that you just think this this this dude's built differently

(01:56:19):
and if you can get them, you're you're really lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
You have most of your players are from this part
of the country. But when you are recruiting someone for
you have a kid from Quebec. Yeah, so when when
you're when you're recruiting someone from another part of the country,
what's what's that process like?

Speaker 16 (01:56:41):
Yeah, so a lot we try to win regionally first, right,
win in Cincinnati, went in Ohio, win in the Midwest,
and then you start to spiral out a lot of
a lot of the people that we recruit from across
the country, right, start to buy into the same vision. Right,
just because you're from Dallas, or just because you're from Montreal,
or just because you're from somewhere in Europe, you can

(01:57:01):
still value the same things that we value as a program, right,
And you want to come somewhere and you want to
be developed as a player, as a student and as
an athlete.

Speaker 6 (01:57:10):
So I think golf's one of those things.

Speaker 16 (01:57:12):
Once you realize people have the same interests and are
pulling in the same direction, a lot of the differences.

Speaker 6 (01:57:18):
Start to go away because everybody's there for the same reason.

Speaker 13 (01:57:20):
Right.

Speaker 16 (01:57:20):
We're here to get our education, we're here to become
really really really good people, and we're here to get
better at golf.

Speaker 2 (01:57:28):
By the way, the Xavier Invitational is going to be
on Monday and Tuesday. Do you guys realize how lucky
they are to play at a course in McAtee with
it like folks like me have to beg rich people
to come play.

Speaker 16 (01:57:38):
Yeah, I don't know that they fully realize how lucky
they are to.

Speaker 6 (01:57:43):
Play at most of the places we play.

Speaker 16 (01:57:46):
And I'm not sure it really it'll really hit them
until they graduate, right, and then they can't go play
Mcattee or Waynesville and a country club or some of
the unbelievable places places we play. And by the way,
they're not spending any money doing it. They're there, they're
they're competing, and the courses are always mint, and the

(01:58:06):
conditions are always just so good and the competition is
really good. So no, I don't think they have any idea.
I mean, I know they're grateful.

Speaker 6 (01:58:14):
But I don't think they're really.

Speaker 16 (01:58:17):
And they really appreciate it until mid twenties or late
thirty even.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
Yeah, I can understand that. Coach, we appreciate the time.
Thanks so much, thanks for having me appreciate you. That
is coach Brian Arlinghouse, the head golf coach, the men's
golf coach at Xavier University, the Musketeers coming off a
victory in the Marine Invitations that's called the Miami Invitational,
the Marine Invitational, which is hosted by Miami University.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
That is it. We're done.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
Anything you might have missed, go find the iHeartRadio app
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can win Bengals tickets there Lance, Rocky and my We'll
be at the Holy Grail tomorrow from three to six thirty.
We hope to see you there. Thanks to Tarren Bland

(01:59:06):
for producing, Thanks to you for listening, Have an awesome night.
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