October 31, 2025 • 5 mins
Jay Morrison of BengalsTalk.com joined to talk about, you guessed it, the Bengals! They play the Bears this Sunday. Wow.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're short on time because UK basketball takes over in
exactly seven minutes. Jay Morrison joins us on Thursdays at
this time Bengals Talk dot Com part of the Growler
Podcast with Paul Danner Junior.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Jay, how's it going.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Good? I was a worried I was gonna be able
to get on with you. We just got out of
a writer's only meeting deciding how we can do our jobs.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Better and which leaders emerged from that meeting.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It was a bunch of people sitting around looking at
each other. We did not come up with any answers.
I think we're gonna keep doing what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Okay, Typically those meetings do yield positive results, so I'm
I am interested to see if some better work from.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
One of you emerges.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I wouldn't count on it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's a very fair assessment. Do we do we feel?
Do we feel like Joe flackhom now may play on Sunday?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It sounds encouraging the fact that he was able to
throw today. I mean, he was limited the way they
listed him, but that makes sense because the plan was
going to be to have him and Jake Browning split reps.
So if he doesn't take his fool amount of reps,
then he gets listed as limited. But you know, as
long as there's not a setback, it looks like the
path is there for him to ramp up and be
(01:19):
the starter on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So what's al gold is supposed to do with this defense,
especially if Trey Hendrickson doesn't go.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, it's it's almost
to the point where they have to start blitzing more.
There's the only way they're going to get pressure. They
they just keep waiting and expressing hope and belief that
it's going to turn on for Schamar and from Miles
Murphy and Joseph o'sai, and it just hasn't been there.
And you know, I guess Schamar has a little bit
(01:47):
more understanding there because he got started so late and
then he just gets rolling and then he has four
weeks off and so he is really far behind on
time on task. But they they've got to find some
way to get pressure. And he just guys that aren't
winning one on ones don't all of a sudden just
start winning one on ones. And so I think he's
gonna have to get creative and start bringing some more blitzes.
(02:08):
And we did see that a little bit last week.
You know, the only quarterback they hit was Cam Taylor
Brick coming on a on a corner blitz and he
got he got to justin field. So I could see
them doing a little more of that, But then you
also worry about doing that against a running quarterback in
Caleb Williams. It could really burn you.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Zach Taylor talked after the Jets game about the need
for defensive leaders to emerge.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Who are those guys supposed to be?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well, I mean your captains obviously, but it's they're just
such a weird spot. You know, you've benched one in
Logan Wilson. Trey Hendrickson just doesn't I don't know what
he's like when the media is not in there, but
when the media and there, he just doesn't seem like
he's in the locker room interacting with players. He's hurt himself.
He may not even play again this week. He hasn't
practiced yet this week. And bj Hill is just you know,
(02:55):
he's he's he's got leadership qualities, but he's not that
that al the leader that they're just desperately creating on
this side of the ball, and I think, you know,
a guy like Barrett Carter could be that guy. And
I think that's part of the equation of why they
turned to him over Logan Wilson is not just the
spark in play, but the spark in leadership. And but still,
that's a lot to ask a rookie in this spot.
(03:17):
So that's that's my question. And none of the players
want to talk about it. But when they had that
player's only meeting, who was in the front of the room,
Because I don't know who it would have been. And
I think it's a really interesting question and maybe somewhere
down the line someone will be willing to say it.
But that's it. They are desperately seeking that on that
side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I think I know who wasn't standing in front of
the room. Who's that Mike Panell?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Uh Yeah, yeah, he got out of here as fast
as possible. He ain't seen enough. And you know, and
that's what sparked our writers only meeting today because none
of us thought to ask Zach about what Mike Fanella
yesterday at the press conference. There was so many other
issues that slipped everybody's mind. But it's just curious. Duke
always has that line about it, it's not his job
to make other teams better. Well, he just did that
(04:03):
by releasing Mike Panell to go to the Chiefs, a
team that could potentially stand in this team's way if
they get things turned around and find a way of
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Who stood in front of the room during the writers.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Meeting, Well, that will keep that between us. We'll keep that.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I understand that. That's very good.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Is this team's you know, they've run the ball really
effectively and it's it's sort of gone. I don't want
to say unnoticed, but the way they lost last week,
nobody wanted to talk about positives.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Are Are the Bengals now actually good at running the football?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah? I would say they are. It's I think it's
notable that just the way that they are moving people
off the ball and there's holes and then getting Samage
into the mix. And I think that was part of
the plan all along. But they just were so staggered
on offense and they just struggled to get first downs
and get drives put together. And and now that Flacco's
(04:58):
in there and they're moving the ball that are normal pace.
They they're able to do that, they're able to run
more plays, and I think it's just all kind of
building on itself. I don't I don't think it's fool's
gold at all. I really do think this has been
two legitimate games of a really good rushing attack, and
I would expect to see that continue. I think they
found a little something there, and it probably goes to
(05:19):
Joe Black would being more willing to go under center
and do the play action stuff and the stuff that
Joe Burrow doesn't like to do.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
At what bar did the writers only meeting take place?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh? It was in the media room here at the stage. Wow,
that's that's probably that's we should have a follow up.
It would have been far more productive.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's the biggest upset of them all that you guys
had a writer's only meeting and alcohol wasn't involved.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Wow. All right, well.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, that's that's probably why it went south exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I have to research your priorities. Jay, Thank you as always.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
All right, thanks Bo.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
That's our man, Jay Morrison. Read him Bengals Talk dot com,
part of the Growler Podcast with our friend Paul Daaner
Junior
This is ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're short on time because UK basketball takes over in
exactly seven minutes. Jay Morrison joins us on Thursdays at
this time Bengals Talk dot Com part of the Growler
Podcast with Paul Danner Junior.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Jay, how's it going.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Good? I was a worried I was gonna be able
to get on with you. We just got out of
a writer's only meeting deciding how we can do our jobs.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Better and which leaders emerged from that meeting.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It was a bunch of people sitting around looking at
each other. We did not come up with any answers.
I think we're gonna keep doing what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Okay, Typically those meetings do yield positive results, so I'm
I am interested to see if some better work from.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
One of you emerges.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I wouldn't count on it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's a very fair assessment. Do we do we feel?
Do we feel like Joe flackhom now may play on Sunday?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It sounds encouraging the fact that he was able to
throw today. I mean, he was limited the way they
listed him, but that makes sense because the plan was
going to be to have him and Jake Browning split reps.
So if he doesn't take his fool amount of reps,
then he gets listed as limited. But you know, as
long as there's not a setback, it looks like the
path is there for him to ramp up and be
(01:19):
the starter on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So what's al gold is supposed to do with this defense,
especially if Trey Hendrickson doesn't go.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, it's it's almost
to the point where they have to start blitzing more.
There's the only way they're going to get pressure. They
they just keep waiting and expressing hope and belief that
it's going to turn on for Schamar and from Miles
Murphy and Joseph o'sai, and it just hasn't been there.
And you know, I guess Schamar has a little bit
(01:47):
more understanding there because he got started so late and
then he just gets rolling and then he has four
weeks off and so he is really far behind on
time on task. But they they've got to find some
way to get pressure. And he just guys that aren't
winning one on ones don't all of a sudden just
start winning one on ones. And so I think he's
gonna have to get creative and start bringing some more blitzes.
(02:08):
And we did see that a little bit last week.
You know, the only quarterback they hit was Cam Taylor
Brick coming on a on a corner blitz and he
got he got to justin field. So I could see
them doing a little more of that, But then you
also worry about doing that against a running quarterback in
Caleb Williams. It could really burn you.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Zach Taylor talked after the Jets game about the need
for defensive leaders to emerge.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Who are those guys supposed to be?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well, I mean your captains obviously, but it's they're just
such a weird spot. You know, you've benched one in
Logan Wilson. Trey Hendrickson just doesn't I don't know what
he's like when the media is not in there, but
when the media and there, he just doesn't seem like
he's in the locker room interacting with players. He's hurt himself.
He may not even play again this week. He hasn't
practiced yet this week. And bj Hill is just you know,
(02:55):
he's he's he's got leadership qualities, but he's not that
that al the leader that they're just desperately creating on
this side of the ball, and I think, you know,
a guy like Barrett Carter could be that guy. And
I think that's part of the equation of why they
turned to him over Logan Wilson is not just the
spark in play, but the spark in leadership. And but still,
that's a lot to ask a rookie in this spot.
(03:17):
So that's that's my question. And none of the players
want to talk about it. But when they had that
player's only meeting, who was in the front of the room,
Because I don't know who it would have been. And
I think it's a really interesting question and maybe somewhere
down the line someone will be willing to say it.
But that's it. They are desperately seeking that on that
side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I think I know who wasn't standing in front of
the room. Who's that Mike Panell?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Uh Yeah, yeah, he got out of here as fast
as possible. He ain't seen enough. And you know, and
that's what sparked our writers only meeting today because none
of us thought to ask Zach about what Mike Fanella
yesterday at the press conference. There was so many other
issues that slipped everybody's mind. But it's just curious. Duke
always has that line about it, it's not his job
to make other teams better. Well, he just did that
(04:03):
by releasing Mike Panell to go to the Chiefs, a
team that could potentially stand in this team's way if
they get things turned around and find a way of
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Who stood in front of the room during the writers.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Meeting, Well, that will keep that between us. We'll keep that.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I understand that. That's very good.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Is this team's you know, they've run the ball really
effectively and it's it's sort of gone. I don't want
to say unnoticed, but the way they lost last week,
nobody wanted to talk about positives.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Are Are the Bengals now actually good at running the football?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah? I would say they are. It's I think it's
notable that just the way that they are moving people
off the ball and there's holes and then getting Samage
into the mix. And I think that was part of
the plan all along. But they just were so staggered
on offense and they just struggled to get first downs
and get drives put together. And and now that Flacco's
(04:58):
in there and they're moving the ball that are normal pace.
They they're able to do that, they're able to run
more plays, and I think it's just all kind of
building on itself. I don't I don't think it's fool's
gold at all. I really do think this has been
two legitimate games of a really good rushing attack, and
I would expect to see that continue. I think they
found a little something there, and it probably goes to
(05:19):
Joe Black would being more willing to go under center
and do the play action stuff and the stuff that
Joe Burrow doesn't like to do.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
At what bar did the writers only meeting take place?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh? It was in the media room here at the stage. Wow,
that's that's probably that's we should have a follow up.
It would have been far more productive.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's the biggest upset of them all that you guys
had a writer's only meeting and alcohol wasn't involved.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Wow. All right, well.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, that's that's probably why it went south exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I have to research your priorities. Jay, Thank you as always.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
All right, thanks Bo.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
That's our man, Jay Morrison. Read him Bengals Talk dot com,
part of the Growler Podcast with our friend Paul Daaner
Junior
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