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On Tuesday's show: The Bengals are headed to Madrid and Elly De La Cruz headed to dinner with his agent. 

Plus...

Paul Dehner Jr. of The Athletic and The Growler Podcast joined us to discuss his mock schedule, the upcoming schedule release, Bengals analytics, and his impressions of Cincinnati's rookies.

Attorney Stuart W. Penrose from Minnillo Law Group talks about the latest on Brendan Sorsby.

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XU Baseball Head Coach Billy O'Conner, Apple TV's Sacha Kljestan on FC Cincinnati/Miami, Golf Expert Will Grimmer on the PGA Championship, and a conversation with Jesús Jiménez, a Madrid native and resident who's a Bengals fan. 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Ellie Delacruz dined at Jeff ruvis it is a til
last night, and I just thought i'd start to show
by mentioning that, because apparently that's news, not that Ellie
and his agent aren't in town together, but where they dined.
So let's just make sure we establish that we know that,
and maybe we can get some free food out of
it too. I'm Mogar. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks

(00:24):
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(00:47):
you'll be good. Paul Danner Junior's here with us in
studio on a whole bunch of different Bengals related issues,
including the mock schedule. What a day. The mock schedule
is a tent whole events. Is it of the off?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yes? You can't have the schedule release, which is Thursday
without the mock schedule at the athletic.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
The silliness of the mock schedule. I enjoy that it
does kind of poke fun at mock draft season. Nobody
else participates in mock schedules, right, you know, nobody else
wants in, nobody wants a piece. The first comment or
said had something to say to the fact of like,
this isn't fun for us because this isn't realistic.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
That yeah, none of them are realistic. Well, I'm glad
you did that, because I can't remember what the story was.
But I had you in here one day for one
of your one of your stories, and I read comments
to you. Yeah, and I was gonna do that today.
That's okay, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I don't understand that, because the point of this is
not to be realistic. It is to show people these
are the best case scenarios for things, not I'm trying
to get it right. This is not trying to get
it right. And I feel like I say it a
lot at the top of the story. So for them,
the first person to be like this is a realistic,

(01:59):
it's just it's frustrating. It's frustrating, That's all I can understand.
But I feel like I hammered home the point of
this is a good year for the Bengals to try
to play their North teams early on, and that could
be beneficial as well as some of the other ones.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
We've talked about that before, to just trying to hammer
that home. That's all well, but I think there's a
part of it that really matters. That's what stood out
to me more than anything, because it's what I want.
I want to play as many AFC North games as
possible early in the season, and a division filled with
new coaches, transition, uncertainty, better to play them now than

(02:37):
later on, So sign me up for it. If I
could get back to back games against any combination of
those teams in September, hell yes, and I would be
willing to bet. Zach Taylor would agree absolutely.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I mean, especially Baltimore, because Baltimore feels like a team
that there's obviously a lot you feel like they'll probably
get it rolling. They have enough good players, you know,
but it is still a first time head coach, first
time coordinator where it does feel like there'll be one
that it might take a little bit of time to
get everything fully adjusted. If you could just get one

(03:12):
of those early and not have this not be one
of those years where you play Baltimore in like December
fifth and January third or something. I think it shifts
an advantage at the very least. I mean I had
some of the stats I just filtered out the last
five years of first time head coaches and how they
sort of did by weak range, and you can see

(03:36):
consistently over the years. I mean, there's obviously examples where
teams do better, but there are not a ton of
examples at all of first time head coaches in their
first six weeks having success, right Like it just really
it just doesn't really happen. I mean, they're winning percentages
under four hundred in their first month as a head
coach for the first year, and so yeah, if you

(03:57):
can take advantage of that against your primary rife. And
when we go back through years where the Bengals have
had even just a winning record in the division, they've
won the division and it's been a huge difference. It's
been their best season. When they have teams that can win,
that's usually what it comes back to. And so yeah,
this is a great opportunity where maybe you can catch
some winning in the margins here off this schedule.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
There is no way, Not after last year, not after
Zach Taylor talked about it publicly, not after Joe Burrow
has referenced it. There is no way that the NFL
is going to send them to Baltimore on a Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Correct. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying on they
knew it last year mode. Yeah, they knew it last year.
Last year they very much were aware. I know because
they told me because I wouldn't shut up about it,
right about the AFC North Road primetime thing that we
kept talking about, the short week stuff a year, and

(04:57):
then the fact that they kept sending them to Baltimore.
We all knew it, like they knew it and still
were like, eh, it kind of.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Works a little bit better if we just stick it
to the Bengals again.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
So would I be sitting here like, no, No, they can't.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
You're I think they are very much aware of it.
It would seem personal at this point if you keep
doing it.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
But what's the difference between doing it a fourth theater
row and a fifth theard row.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
The difference is they won their last year. That's true,
so maybe it's longer. So okay, fine, It's like the
blowoff in professional wrestling. It's like, all right, the blowoff
is the feud is over because the Bengals won, or
is it? Hey, you know what, you guys proved you
can go to Baltimore in a short week on Thanksgiving
none the lesson wins, So suck it up. You're going
back out there on a Thursday night. They can't. I

(05:45):
don't like it. If I'm Zach Taylor, if I'm anybody
with that team, We're doing a press conference on Thursday
going like, dude, like this they are screwing us. Would
I would side with that?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yes, I get a feeling that you know, they're they're
aware enough that I doubt it happens. But also I
do know, and I've heard this in the past that
like those things really change a lot in the last
however many days like leading up to it, and a
lot of times that's the plan. Like you know, there's

(06:17):
a lot of teams that have things that they want
to see go a certain way, and you're like, all right,
we somebody has to take this one on the chin
because we have to do X, Y and Z, And
sometimes that's how these things come about. And perhaps that
I wouldn't rule that out right like that's how it
ends up happening. So I'm I'm not gonna sit here
and count anything with a Bengals schedule.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Bengals Ravens here in primetime with Trey Hendrickson coming back,
that would be fun.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, And that feels like one that you know, networks
would be after, right. I mean, I think both Bengals
Ravens games are they have been, you know, Lamar Burrow,
the Hendrickson thing, everything about it. I'm interested in see
because the Bengals were a little underserved in the TV
department last year. I thought, like, you know, you had

(07:07):
Thanksgiving or whatever and in the Thursday, but like there
were a lot of Sunday at once on their original schedule.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
And what was interesting about that was in twenty twenty four,
the Bengals were not a very good team, but they
were awesome television. Yes, And so.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I'm curious to see if some of the buzz that
has surrounded this team this offseason, the big moves that
they've made, a lot of talk about Burrow, helps get
them a little bit more prominence in their schedule and
the draw to TVs, I mean, particularly home games.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Obviously, are they playing an international game feels like it.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, I mean it's certainly been the lean that you've
heard from everybody you've talked to, is it feels like
it's gonna happen this year. They're just on the short list.
You've got these two obvious opponents where the Bengals will
be a significant draw. They haven't played internationally in a
long time, so yeah, it feels like it.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, seven years since twenty nineteen, they haven't been international
in the Borough era. It just feels like it's time. Yeah, absolutely,
And we've seen a lot of teams.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I mean, even if you just look at both teams
they could pay against Atlanta and Washington both played last year.
It's like it's not rare because we know they're playing
internationally next year. It has really no impact that you
might be playing next year internationally because now there's so
many games, there's so many international you know, everybody kind
of is going to have one of these stretches where
they play back to back years or even three years

(08:31):
in a row, even where you're just that's what the
NFL is, and I think teams are just much more
accustomed to it. So yeah, they feel like they're going
to be They're gonna be a team this year for sure.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Your mock schedule has the Bengals playing the Chiefs on
Black Friday. Yeah, and you've made this point before that
the Bengals have lobby to be one of those teams
playing in the Black Friday game, which I believe this
is the third year of twenty three was the debut
of them. So this is probably not gonna happen. And
if it was ever gonna happen, it was gonna start
the first year. I want Black Friday to be our day. Yeah.

(09:03):
I want it to be like Thanksgiving is in Detroit
and Thanksgiving is in Dallas. I want Black Friday to
be like the day where every year Cincinnati hosts a
pro football game. Yeah, that's not gonna happen. I don't
think so.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I think that the league loves it being a chip
that they can give to different places. I think if you,
if you, and maybe Dallas maybe not, but if you
gave the league the ability to get out of Detroit
and Dallas being the permanent hosts because of tradition, they
would because being able to give that to It's not

(09:36):
every year that it's desirable for Detroit to be on TV, right,
we watched this for a lot of years. Yeah, and
even Dallas, I mean, they're always gonna draw because they're
America's team, but like you know, they they like to
be able to put those premier matchups in there and
be able to pick and go draw a number. I mean,
we've seen them promote how many people they got to

(09:57):
watch the thanks Giving Day games, and and usually Dallas
will always draw no matter what. But like they like
having that flexibility, They like being able to toss that
out there and give that to network, so they don't
They're not going to pigeonhole themselves into something like that,
and they haven't to this point.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I've interviewed Hans Schroeder, yeah, Mike North, and I don't
know if I've asked them this question. If I have,
I should remember the answer. But you mentioned the Bengals
Day and you may not know this answer either, but
the Bengals have lobby to be the Black Friday team
since they made that game a part of the schedule.
I know in Baseball, like the Reds request can we
open at home every year? Baseball always honors it. They

(10:36):
also request can we not be at home on Flying
Pig Weekend, which they weren't this year, but they often
have been. They don't want to be home that weekend.
The can an NFL team make specific requests? How many
and what's the likelihood that they're honored. Yeah, that's a
great question.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I think usually, you know, there's just there's priorities of
requests and I'm with you, I would like to know
more about this process and so, but there's usually priorities.
I mean these you know, whether it's has to do
with stadium concerts, like last year it was like, oh,
this huge concert tour is sending the schedule makers into

(11:12):
a tizzy.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Because they can't how do you work around?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's forcing teams in different places, and the Reds are
one of the teams that force the Bengals into you
know them trying to work around Reds home games. And
you can usually see, okay, well that they're going to
start there. That's going to be level one. Then you
start getting into the next level of priorities of like, okay,
they just kind of don't want this, but we can
do it, and so I think some do. But inevitably,

(11:39):
this is a TV game and it all starts with
the priority being what do these what do the networks
want games, do they want when do they want them,
where do they want them? And once they do that,
then they try to get to as much as they
can with the logistics being at the top of the
No Christmas games, please, please please. I'm really worried about

(11:59):
the holidays this year because you know, as you're the
same way, like with young kids. Halloween matters to me too.
I'm in like the prime Halloween.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I missed Halloween for a UC game in Salt Lakes.
It's just eight year old. Yeah, you hate that Father
of the Year. I'd rather not.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
And so that being on a Saturday this year is
a potential for that to be messed up. All the
Christmas games now we're going to be doing what we're
doing the Christmas or Thanksgiving Eve.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Don't bother me. I'm in for that. Like, but all
of these.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Travel I just don't you know what I mean, Like
all of these things, I get it, they're just it's
just the great train is fully out the state.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
So they had three Christmas games on Netflix last year
and they ended up being bad games. And so my
fear is because the NFL is creating more standalone windows,
because the FCC and the Justice Department are looking at
the NFL and whatever. I don't want to dive into
the weeds of that, and so it's it's it's cutting

(13:01):
into Sunday at one o'clock, which so many people love.
I have mixed feelings about this because I love Sunday
at one o'clock. But standalone games are cool. I'm willing
to have as many standalone games as possible, as many
Christmas games as possible. If flex scheduling goes away for good,
I know this will never happen, but my fear is
we're just gonna have more and more games. Like all right,

(13:21):
those games on Netflix, they were bad. If the NFL
could have flexed them, they would have. I have a
bad feeling we're gonna go down the road where it's
like Christmas s there is not going to be flexed.
And eight days before suddenly we find out guess what
the Bengals is gonna play on? Like, I just I
wish they wouldn't play on Christmas. I hate to sound
like an old man whatever, but I just I would

(13:41):
trade all of this if we could permanently get rid
of flex scheduling.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
There should not be a schedule that comes out and
has TVD Maybe it's this day or this day, like
last year, the now we're at the last four weeks
this season, you're gonna have these Saturday games?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
How many of the like you.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Not every life revolves around football? No, And it's like,
at some point, do I know they don't care at all,
they don't traveling fan or fans, but like you make
it impossible to be able to even do anything like that.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I am with you.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I can't, I can't stand it, but I again, it
goes back to all.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
The matters of TV. They would never do this.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
How can we make sure the networks are always happy
no matter what.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
So a couple of years ago, the Bengals were supposed
to play the Browns on Thursday night, and the Bengals
stunk and the Browns stunk, so they moved it off
Thursday night, and there were people in Cleveland who are like, well,
I kind of revolved my life around going to that
game and now, and this was brought up to Roger
Goodell and his response was sorry, yeah, sorry about that,

(14:47):
Sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Our sport making money revolves around being able to move
bad games off of Thursdays, and that's why it's going
to be no.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I the only one I would keep.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
And I credit my wife on this is one of
her best sports ideas of all time. Is the Deflexah,
you take the worst game in the Sunday at one
window and force it into the nine thirty am slot,
because when they play those international games at nine thirty
we like them.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
It's nice to have.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Something on in the morning. Hold on, don't steep, don't
have fantasy football. Once a year, I get, well, that's
your fault, it is my fault. But once a year,
it's like, ah, if they've already kicked off in Aysterdam
and I don't set my line up, I prefer to
have some kind of a game on rather than the

(15:33):
bad pregame shows. Right, And so what we do is
we take the worst game and you punish those teams
for being bad. Look, if we can't relegate you out
of the NFL for being terrible, we can at least
force you to play at nine thirty am. Okay, so
we move them to nine thirty am. It gives you
something to be on instead of having to watch the

(15:53):
pregame shows. People like you talk about it because your
fantasy screw up. And maybe you can hold that better
owners to the top, which I appreciate to see happen.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, and everybody wins here in this one.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I think I think we should I think we should
consider this only it's a great ada.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
I like the idea. The only on one that I
would add is like we all love business Day specials. Yeah, right,
Like twelve thirty five Reds game is special, Like they're
gonna play one on Thursday, and I have friends who
are going, and I will sit here and I love
my job, but it's like, man, I kind of wish
I was with them. We love I wish the NFL
would create like a six game business Day special package

(16:29):
where the game's got to kick off on like a
Thursday afternoon at twelve thirty wherever that game is played.
Tell me there wouldn't be networks just pushing each other
out of the way to get that package. And tell me,
diehard Bengals fan or even a casual one. One go dude,
twelve thirty Wednesday football and let's go.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
We've talked about we've both been to our favorite game
time start of the year, and it's happened rarely. It's
like a unicorn the Friday afternoon game that has happened,
whether it because of Doubleheader two or US in twenty four,
twenty three, and twenty four, Yes, yes, and it was
the greatest time slot of all time. I'm like, it
was a beautiful day. It was like one o'clock in

(17:08):
the afternoon on a Friday. You can kick off of
work early. That's the spot right there, Friday at one,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I'm having a hard time reading the comments on your story.
Good did you hide them? I don't even know how
to do that. I clicked on the little quotation thing
and it just sends me to the bottom, and uh,
I'm not there anymore. I don't know. I don't read
the comments, nor do I know how to do anything
with you. You guys also got rid of the smiley face
in different face mad face at the bottom.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I have no control over the comment situation. I only
hear about them when someone tells me about something that
somebody said, which is what happened with the first one.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Read Paul Danner Junior's mock schedule before the actual schedule
comes out on Thursday night at the Athletic dot Com.
I do want to discuss your latest podcast, The Growler podcast,
which is the latest one is up and running right now.
I will get to the rookie he's showing up for
Minnie Camp, Joe Burrows in the House, and so much more.
Lots to get to between now and four o'clock with

(18:06):
Paul Danner Junior on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Well for three o'clock, This is ESPN fifteen thirty moth
Edger Paul Danner Junior from The Athletic and the Growler podcast.
By the way, we got seventeen good minutes after the schedule.
Look at Us doesn't even come out yet. Look at
Us go absolute pros. Yeah, it's a hard one, but
we got to do something. When the rookies showed up
last week, did anybody or anything stand out?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I I think it's a fun I think it's a
fun class. Landon Robinson doesn't look like anybody else. And
I mean that in a complimentary way. Yeah, Like he
called himself a stump, and I think I agree, Like,
I mean, you can see how a guy like that

(19:01):
can be impactful. I don't know, there's not a you know,
a ton of people that have been six foot and
two ninety five, But there's a lot of quality players
that have been six'. One so how much is really there,
that like THE nfl is? Weird how is there such
a difference where LIKE i see a bunch of guys

(19:23):
with great careers at six foot in between two ninety
and thir three hundred, pounds and then there's like there's
like none at six foot stead of six y.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
One, right it's a very weird.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Thing but that, said like you can just everything you've
heard and everything you've seen in the fact that he
has this incredible background avy and, all it just instantly comes, across,
right like it like this, GUY i don't know how
much he's got in, him but he's gonna get everything
out of. It and those are the guys that succeed

(19:54):
off of day. Three AND i think you meet, him
you see, him and you see How hardy worked And
Zach taylor today about he's gonna be on these. Guys
i'm gonna have to hold back and walk through his
which is. Good but, like, yeah that you, can you
can you can feel that being a, possibility AND i
DON'T i don't, Know, like, well we'll see how it turns.
Out but in terms of first, impressions he he certainly

(20:16):
was a good.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
One i'm actively rooting for. Him, YEAH i, mean, like all,
RIGHT i want The bengals to have a, good clean
off season and and be as healthy as possible when
cut down day gets, here and you want, them you
want them to be healthy, competition and you want them
to have a great roster at the end of. Camp
But i'm allowed to root for certain. Dudes root for that, guy,

(20:38):
yeah root for that. Guy you know self made has done.
It and it's just it's it's really.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Interesting there are a lot of guys who are you, like,
man they just look, different, right and something is in
a good. Way, yeah and some of them is like
in a weird. Way so they've Got Eric, gentry THE usc.
Linebacker he makes no sense like AND i mean, that,
like you, know, like how is this personal linebacker in this?
Body it does not. EXIST i had to go back
and filter out players who are six six and two

(21:07):
twenty that have played defense in THE. Nfl, okay none
couldn't find one like in the last this, century, right
and you see him out there at, Linebacker you're, like
how did this even?

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Work AT? Usc and you it just looks very. Awkward,
yeah so see at the top of the depth chart
YET i uh, NO i, KNOW i don't know if
that's Why swayzey's here.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Now so we Have Swayze bosman in the Housel, yeah
top five name Already swazeman excited about, that but, YEAH
i don't Think gentry is going to be the.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Guy the running backs are kind of interesting from the.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
UDFAS i, mean they have three guys at the, top
and there's like four guys that are all kind of
the same and we'll see you, Know Jamal haynes From Georgia,
tech Kencharl bullock who was A South alabama, kid and
then they still have the two guys from last. YEAR
i feel like there's an, option there's a possibility for
one of those guys to rise.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Up and they seem to.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Be really good, stories good dudes that you could, see
like you could see how there's their background leads to,
them you, know proving people wrong a little.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Bit so some potential. There those guys were kind of
fun to. TALK i took a lot of folks scrabbed
onto some of the stuff that cash Has hell had
to say about being.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Here, yeah and certainly after last year with the contract,
stuff AND i think he's. Refreshing he's refreshing as a,
player he's refreshing as a personality thus. Far AND i
think people just they just want just don't they don't
want the, drama but nobody, wants well speak speak for. Yourself,

(22:46):
yeah well everybody but you.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Once no.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Drama AND i just think it's so everybody just after last,
year just over all of. It and, yeah SO i
was out there at the rookie AND i want to emphasize,
how you, know short the workout and how it is
not a Big, yeah this was not a big, deal
but it was notable to me that one of the
first things we saw was they Had cash as how

(23:14):
working on his drops and you, know working with the
linebackers in space and in coverage and stuff like. That
and so you immediately, saw, oh, okay here it is like,
this this is what they've been talking, about the guy
who's they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Be able to use him more in that, way which
is what we.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Suspected but you, know first, practice there he is with the,
linebackers you, know working on coverage.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Stuff was kind of right in your. Face Joe burrow
gracing everybody with his.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Presence good to see, him, yeah good to see him,
working even through some and put his hands through his hair.
Today so get all the, stuff the, jogging you, know but,
yeah he's.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Here he's a part of.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
It we're so we're we're without Chasing higgins right now
AND Dj turner uh not here amongst most, notables but
outside of, that, Yeah burrow, here and then you, know
the next couple of weeks it starts to ramp up
a little bit. More right, now they just had basically
rookies in kind of first, year second year guys out
there doing field. Work and then all the vet's that were,

(24:15):
there which were, many were mostly just kind of doing
the conditioning stuff on a separate, field And burrow was amongst,
them and he threw a little bit after.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
That Paul Danner junior From The athletic in The grawlar,
podcast speaking of which you Interviewed Sam, francis The director
Of Football, research which is a cool job, title AND
i want to spend a few minutes on that conversation
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(26:07):
tied at. Two Wall Paul Danner junior is here from
The Athletic how's it going? Wonderful? Yeah you got you
preoccupied there now reading the. COMMENTS i was not reading the.
COMMENTS i. WAS i was checking in on. Something but that's.
Okay anything any news or anything big, happening nothing to,
report anything significant yet report? Yet, yeah, okay all, right, okay.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
So maybe there's. SEEDS i don't. KNOW i don't. KNOW
i don't. Know, okay quit badgering.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
ME i know what you're like when something is going. On,
yeah something was going, on but. NOTHING i think we're
okay right. Now on your, podcast you Interviewed Sam, francis
the director Of Football. Research, yes and WHAT i liked
about this is he has no issue with the fourth
down Bot twitter. Feed, YES i would say somebody like
him would resent the fourth down, BOW i. WONDERED i wondered,

(26:53):
if like if they, did because it's one of my
five Favorite twitter.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
FEEDS i enjoyed it, is AND i enjoyed it as
a good baseline for a fun part of the conversation
where he was, like, no that's. That it's great to
have that foundation of this is what the numbers generally look.
Like he's, like but you, know for, us there's so
many other things that go into it in terms of

(27:18):
the types of game we want to, play how we're playing.
Today that all changes the math so, dramatically what type
of team you have in, general and then what's unfolding
over the course of the. Day how many times have
you been stopped that, Day like what, matchups, like all
of that stuff affects the. Math and then he kind
of pointed, out but we don't have access to put

(27:40):
all those new numbers in during the. Game we're still
working on. That they're now just now starting to get
to use some of the play by play data during the.
Game he's, like but you're kind of out there just
using what you have coming into, it and so the
math changes and sometimes they're doing their own math calculations
in their own, head but it usually is going to
be you, know anything that is an outliner is typically

(28:03):
about the style of game that that they feel like
they need to be playing on that day or with
this team against that. Team and it was, interesting it
was an interesting conversation because it's it's it's just not
never gonna be as cut as dry as this.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Is, yeah there's the, chart, right there's the chart that
says go for, it not go for. It there's the
chart that says gop for, to not go for to
depending on score and time and stuff like. That those
charts don't factor in things that actually happened during the.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Game, Yeah and and there's just a lot of different
ways that that you can. WIN i, mean you, know
you play The, browns and you know it's not gonna
be a day where you're gonna be trying to go
for it all the, time like.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
You match, up you, know the style of game you
have to play to.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Win some of those don't turn it, over, right don't give,
them don't give an offense that can field, position all that, stuff,
Right like there's and then there's some days like the
entire you're twenty twenty four, season where you know what
it's gonna. Be it's a shootout every week and you're
going forward all the, time and like you're gonna be more,
aggressive and SO i, YEAH i think it's it's interesting

(29:10):
to hear some of the background and how they've come
to terms with.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
That are The bengals ahead behind or sort of right
on par with most of the league when it comes to,
analytics they're probably LIKE.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I don't, know they're probably in the bottom, half but
not the bottom quarter.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Now in terms of like analytics staff or just forward
think staff.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
RESOURCES i, mean, look you can have ten people and
that doesn't mean that you're more forward thinking than the
people that have. Four like if you look at the analytics,
departments and it's hard to specifically categorize. It Seth walder
does a pretty good job FROM espn putting that out.
There but there's you, know certain people that are maybe

(30:01):
they're just thrown in, there even though they're kind of
part of a different. BUCKET i think they've certainly, GROWN
i mean literally by. PEOPLE i mean there's three of
them essentially now that are working and a lot of
the league looks kind of like that there's some that
are you, know The browns have like an entire.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Team, yeah they were so. Forward they once hired a
BASEBALL gm.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Too.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah and.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Does how much of a difference does that make If
i've got eight mathematicians versus, Three, like you, Know i'm
just speaking, generally but, like how much difference does that?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Make?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Sure maybe some maybe it, DOES i. DON'T i do
think that they have grown. IT i think that they're you,
know they admit we're a smaller. Group it's sort of
the same conversation you hear around the scouts, is, yeah
it's a smaller, group but there's more. Cohesion everybody in
the analytics department is working closely with the coaches and
the staff and answering the questions that we know that

(30:58):
they need every single day in the. Week and we've
learned their preferences pretty well and how to give them
what they. Want AND i thought it was really interesting
to hear about their approach and how it's how it's.
Grown it's certainly come a long way from where it
used to. Be And sam's a big reason for. THAT i,
mean he's been around here for you, know he's going

(31:19):
as eighth season, now.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Does, sam do they have room For director of Common?
SENSE i think. So, yeah, yeah, SURE i mean it'll be. Unpaid,
WELL i want some. GEAR i want my own hotel
room on the. Road, yeah that's. It, Man LIKE i
JUST i don't need more money to do. This i'm.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Sure i'm sure we can get. You we can get
you some. Input yeah here at some whenever you just
let me just let me. Know we'll see if we.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Can just the guy who stands there and just, SAYS
i don't, know, man second and, TEN i would run
the ball your. Zach, okay you, KNOW i think there's
A director of Common. SENSE i think there's would fall
under that. Umbrella you've had a chance to catch up
With Shamar. Stewart, yeah, Today uh well there.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Was you, know the locker room was was going pretty
good because it was the first day a lot of
some of the veterans we were. BACK i Think shmart
had been, around BUT i. Hadn't we hadn't seen him,
yet so we a few of us were talking to
him and he was. INTERESTING i just sort of asked
him about what he took from last year and going,
forward and he, SAID i got beat. Up he, Said
i'm not going down out of, fight AND i thought

(32:22):
it was like it was kind of a he ADMITTED
i TOOK i took a lot of. LOSSES i wasn't,
great and he you, know whether it was on and
off the, field some stuff that. Happened but he very
much sounded like a guy who's, LIKE i recognize THAT
i got to come out here and fight for this stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Now and maybe.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Maybe a little bit of a light bulb went. ON
i thought it was an interesting conversation with. Him he's
sugar free, now sugar? Free sugar?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Free, yeah so he.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Said he pointed out that if someone came to you
and said if if you go sugar, free it's a
good chance you could play ten years plus in THE,
nfl you probably do it. Too Uh, so maybe that
was a. Conversation remember this was A Miles murphy thing.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Too do you like?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Sugar remember did he cut out his cereals and all
that and what?

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Happened oh he kind of blew up at the end of.
Season there you.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Go so maybe this is going to be the same
sugar has been holding down the Entire bengals draft pit
draft classes for.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Years. Wow maybe so this this will be a thing
now moving. Forward when they vet the draft picks and
they vet the, prospects what your feelings on? Sugar how
do you? What what kind of? Cereal what are you
putting in your body in the, morning that sort of.
Thing well. Good when he says he was taking l's
was it because of the contract thing or the injury
OR i think it was a little bit of. EVERYTHING
i think it was probably a little. Bit he just
SAID i took a lot of losses last, year was

(33:38):
what he.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Said AND i think he was speaking in generally about
just Didn't he's, Like i'm not gonna sit here and
say it.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Went it all went? Well like it. Didn't it was a.
WASH i mean it.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
WAS i would LOVE i would love to have seen
how he would have played and developed healthy mm. HMMM
i MEAN i would have liked to have seen. IT
i felt like what we saw was a very incomplete.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
PACKAGE i felt like that was about two and a
half days during training camp where he was a turning
he's turning, heads guy turning. Heads it was more than
two and a. Half it.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Was it was two and a half. WEEKS i mean
it was the whole month when he came into. Camp
he was every day making. Plays you noted, him you saw,
him he was batting down, passes he's so, quick like
you saw his. Athleticism all of that was a part of.
It and then you, know we just never really saw that.
Guy he certainly looked lost more often than you would

(34:38):
have liked to have seen last. YEAR i, try we'll
find in the. Ball but he was also raw and
inexperienced and not getting a lot of reps because of
injury and then because of the contract stuff in the off,
season and so he feels like a real interested to.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
See what a fresh start looks like for this.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Guy and the other thing, is you, know he probably
needed a little more leadership in his. Room and that's
no disrespect to the guys that were in, there but
like one of the first things he said when asked
About Dexter lawrence that struck me was he's, like, man
he's a, leader and we're hearing a lot of that.
GOOD i mean the fact, that, yeah the idea that you,
Know Zach taylor's at today about he was just shocked

(35:18):
That dexter decided to be here from.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
The moment he, Signed, yeah has been there every.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Day and that's the thing That i've heard in talking
to people around Is they're, like, man you immediately know
this dude is like an alpha of.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
All the things that stood out during The Dexter lawrence news.
Wave seeing the picture of him on That monday after
he was traded Wearing bengals gear working out is WHAT
i remember the. Most, YEAH i, mean like that probably.
Happens doesn't happen like? That that often very.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Rare, yeah, yeah but you can, see, yeah how that you,
know can have an impact on a player Like samar,
specifically like just somebody who is gonna be the leader
to push him in the room and remind him of
what he needs to be doing and should be, doing
and making sure he's in his playbook and all the

(36:10):
things that young guys. Need and SO i think that
guys like him and the other guys that are brought
in been brought into whether it's boye or, whatever ALL
i think all of those guys can go a long
way to Helping schamar kind of you, KNOW i gonna
grow ups the right, word but like grow into HIS

(36:31):
nfl future a little.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Bit, yeah and do so in year, two which would
be accelerated compared To Miles, murphy who were all excited, about.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
And imagine if he. Does, YES i think that's the
exciting thing is if you get some semblance of what
you thought you were getting with a first round, pick
with that kind of athleticism and traits at now as
your third or fourth edge. RUSHER i, mean you know

(37:00):
you're you're cooking with real gas at that.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Point, well your Guy austin mock at The athletic who
ranked all the, rosters seems to be skeptical about the pass.
Rush so why don't you take that up with? HIM
i won't you guys have like a slack or, something
OR i MEAN i could slack. HIM i don't know
THAT i will do, that you. Know and just The
bengals still have concerns at edge rusher and. Linebacker WOULD
i would agree heartily with. Both i'd agree with half of.

(37:26):
IT i agree with half of. It BUT i think
the potential for what they have getting after the quarterback
is so fun to think. About, yeah and there's a
lot of like best case scenarios that would have.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
UNFOLD i JUST i just go back to really not
just not just the defensive and that and that is
a huge part of, It like just the fact that
they're just not relying on unknowns, right like there are
no there's just not a ton OF i, mean think
about all the rookies that you knew were playing it

(38:00):
this time last. Year everybody that they're really relying. On
AND i know the linebackers are a question and that's,
fair but like almost everybody they're really relying, on they
know who they're getting, like they know what's, there and
those players know what they're getting themselves. Into and it
just makes such a difference in terms of what you

(38:23):
can and the chance it just so lessens the chance
of it blowing up in your face like it did last,
year and that's.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Important Austin mok's, piece you can read the comments.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
GOOD i Maybe i'll check in on. This i'm sure
there are people with. Thoughts Paul Danner.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Jr you can read him at The athletic dot com
and catch the brow The growler. Podcast the conversation was
saying with, GOOD i can't even talk with. Us Sam
francis was. Terrific get that on YouTube or as we,
say where you get your podcasts and enjoy schedule release.
Night i'm very much looking. Forward do you have anything
as a special plan for schedule release, night live shit live. Show,

(39:00):
yeah we're going live right.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Afterwards, uh we'll be going live after the schedule comes
out about eight. Fifteen myself And jay will be. Reacting
you want to drop, in you have something going? On
we have a six hour schedule release. Show oh you're,
On SO i am. On now what time does your? Start,
uh we'll probably start it a little after, eight but
SO i am on With tony in the eight to ten.

(39:23):
Window you guys will not still be added a ten. O'clock,
boy if we are something that's gone to call me.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
In And i'll pop in And i'll give you something
people want to watch me like sleeping live on The
internet and.

Speaker 7 (39:34):
Might be what we will be.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Doing but we we do have a six hour schedule release,
Show so for, you maybe during a break or, Something
i'll briefly pop in and, say you don't have to do.
THAT i.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
APPRECIATE i appreciate all that you do for. Us but,
yeah we'll Be we'll be on live on the Old
internet for. YOU i show up and make a little.
JOKE i love, it interrupt the hard hitting football. Analysis
and then my favorite part of WHAT i appear on
the podcast IS i will watch it like that day
or the next day is the moment you guys say
goodbye to. Me there's always like, this like you, Ever

(40:06):
like like when you're at a party and the drunkest
person there, Leaves, yeah and they walk out the door
and you shut the door behind him and they get
into an uber and everybody just looks at each. Other
that's kind of what you And jay or you and
whoever will do the MOMENT i say goodbye on the,
podcast not only because it always ends on such a,
fun happy note where you're just, like, Oh i'm JUST

(40:30):
i was enjoying myself so much.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
There that's What that's what it's all all. ABOUT i
appreciate all the time you give us The athletic Dot
com or The growlar. Podcast.

Speaker 7 (40:38):
Paul.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Thanks there's alien news too that we're gonna have to
get too. Soon i'm just we're diving into the heart
of nothing else going. On, yes so there's a lot
for us to. Do we can focus a whole show on.
THAT i CANNOT i cannot wait for. That Ellie Dahla
cruz had dinner In cincinnati with his. Agent where they
ate does not matter the fact that they did eat
does that is incredible sports talk radio teasing by. Me

(41:00):
that is next ON espn fifteen to.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
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Speaker 1 (41:10):
Thirty all, right sure have four minutes out for Four
this IS espn fifteen. Thirty i'm. Oegar thank you so
much for. Listening hopefully you're having like the most Awesome
tuesday afternoon after. Life there's a lot of. Chatter Mike
dartis is Reporting channel Five bengals are going to play
In madrid against The, falcons so we'll be paying attention

(41:31):
to that obviously the schedule, release the full schedule, release
although some games are being officially, announced some primetime. Games
But dartis Has bengals And falcons In, madrid and it
has been long rumored that they're going to play an
international game as a road team this. Year The falcons
have been pinned as one of those teams that's gonna.
Play So Mike Dartists channel five Says bengals In madrid

(41:55):
against The Atlanta. Falcons more details on that as they come.
Available excuse. Me our sports legal Analyst STEWART. W. D
penrose from The Manila Law group coming up in just
about thirty minutes And brendanman And jones on baseball coming
up later on this hour on The. Reds they play
The nationals, tonight first of three at Gabp elie Dela

(42:18):
cruz on His instagram POSTED i guess a photo of
the menu At Jeff, ruby's which is where he was
apparently dining with his, Agent Scott. Boris, now you can
make whatever out of. This you prefer, agents at least
good ones always do check ins with their. Players i'm

(42:39):
Sure Scott boris represents players on The Washington. Nationals one
thing that agents do during the season is they hopscotch
around the country and meet with their. Clients one of
the reasons Why Scott boros is as successful as he
has been over the course of his careers probably because
he has that personal touch with his. Clients and so
you have a very wealthy man In Scott, rorris who

(43:00):
have a wealthy man In ellie de La. Cruz it
stands the reason when they come To, cincinnati they're going
to eat it somewhere that's really, really really really. Nice
so they're dining At Jeff. Ruby's now for what it's.
Worth Jim, bowden the Former REDS gm who is a
contributor to The athletic on top of other, places saw
this and reached out To Nick krawl and said, like,

(43:21):
hey is something in the. Works And Nick kral said
nothing right. Now now he could be playing it close
to the. Vest he could. Be it might have no
idea That Scott morris is in. Town who, Knows and
by the, way the agent comes to, town he can
do a check in with the team's general manager or
president of baseball. Operations in the case Of Nick, krawl

(43:42):
The ellie de La cruz thing, is you, know they
offered him a deal a year, ago by all, accounts
that would have made him the highest paid player in franchise. History,
now two things about. That, one the verbiage there is.
Important they offered to make him the highest paid player
In red's franceranchise. History they did not offer him a

(44:03):
chance to be the highest paid player in baseball. History
Is Ellie Dela cruz one day going to be the
highest paid player in baseball? History, HELL i don't, know
but if you were, him IF i were, him that
would be on our, radar, Right so you, know there's.
That there's also the fact that we found out last.
Week according To Ken, rosenthal The reds And Sal stewart
aren't going to be getting a long term deal done anytime,

(44:24):
soon though in my, opinion at least it would make
sense to get one done because The reds financial outlook has,
changed and it's changed since they went After Kyle schwarber
a few months, ago and it's changed since they were
trying to Get Ellie Dela cruz signed long term reportedly
about a year. Ago and it's changed because The REDS
tv situation has, changed and so there's some uncertainty there

(44:45):
financially with regard TO tv. Revenue i'm sure there's some
financial uncertainty based on the fact that we're probably going
to have a lockout a work, stoppage and maybe that
cuts into the, season so we will. SEE i have
no idea what The reds can present To Elie Dela
cruz that's gonna compel him to stay, Here and maybe
what he wants is some degree of long term security Where,

(45:09):
OKAY i could hit free agency and maybe hit the
open market in a couple of, years OR i can
go ahead and sign right. Now you can buy out
my arbitration YEARS i signed beyond twenty twenty, nine and
MAYBE i don't get exactly WHAT i would have gotten
HAD i hit free, agency but WHAT i Know i'm
gonna get is still pretty, hefty and it's, guaranteed And

(45:30):
i've got some level of financial. SECURITY i don't. KNOW
i have maintained all along that if you were to
bet on Where Ellie Dela cruz is going to play
in twenty, twenty in two, thousand excuse, me in twenty,
thirty whether it's the, field meaning all the other, teams
which right now would be twenty nine other, teams or The,
reds the smart money would be on one of the

(45:52):
other twenty nine. Teams and that's not just something That
i've maintained because of. Math you can bet on one,
team or you can bet on twenty. Nine it's it's
betting on What Ellie delacruz might have the chance to
be in a couple of, years which is Perhaps baseball's
first one billion dollar. Player and the reality is this

(46:13):
the longer we go With, ellie and, look The reds
have some short term things to figure out that are
a lot more oppressing than Where Ellie Dela cruz is
going to be playing baseball in twenty. Thirty but the
longer we go without him signing something long, term either
the more expensive he'll become long, term or the more
unlikely it is that he signed something here long. Term

(46:36):
but more than, ANYTHING i make it about, this if
you Want Ellie delacruz to play for The Cincinnati reds
for a duration of time that exceeds the last day
of the twenty twenty nine, season then it would. Help
if you want a lot more, NOW i know they
made the postseason last. Year by the, way like IF
i Was ellie Dela, CRUZ i would be looking at

(46:58):
a guy Like Sal stewart going. Huh i'd love to
keep playing with, Him and maybe if they showed a
willingness to sign him long, term that would compel me
to want to sign something long. Term Elie Dela cruz
is a, star but he is a star who really
hasn't had a chance to shine on the sport's biggest. Stages,

(47:19):
yes they made the postseason last. Year those two games
were utterly forgettable against THE La. Dodgers, yes he's played
in The All Star, game but like he hasn't had
a chance to play on the biggest, stages and he's
gonna get paid no matter. What one of the ways
that you could maybe Compel elie de La cruz to

(47:40):
take another look at playing for The reds long term
is to win while he's. Here is to win while
you have. Him is to give him a chance to
play deep Into. October is to give him a chance
to compete for a. Championship like that part of it.
Matters these guys do want to, win Right LIKE i

(48:01):
would be willing to bet that things would have changed
For Joey evado had in twenty twelve he felt like
The reds had no chance to. Win if you remember
when the red Signed Joey evado long, term it was
In april of twenty. Twelve the season had just. Started
two years. Prior The reds had won the division that
year twenty. Twelve they'd made a bunch of moves to

(48:22):
go all in for twenty. Twelve and So i'm willing
to bet he had some sense, of you know, what
this from a baseball, perspective from a win loss, perspective can.
Work this can work. Now unfortunately it. Didn't And Joey
evado is the greatest player in franchise history who's not
necessarily connected to. Winning unlikes all the other franchise, greates

(48:44):
but like that that part of it. Matters and so
we can obsess Over ellie And Scott boris and where
they had, dinner and are they gonna get something, done
and are they gonna Keep? Ellie are they gonna keep
him from hitting free? AGENCY i would be willing to
bet or at least imagine That ellie is watching what
The reds are doing with the, roster what The reds

(49:06):
are doing with the team this year and giving it
the best chance to, win and what they're doing moving,
forward Because ellie's always going to be able to wait
it out and maybe go sign for more money. Elsewhere
if this is just about, well he wants the most
amount of, money whether it's they won't pay the most

(49:27):
or can't pay the, Most he's gonna have the. Ability
he's gonna have that carat dangling in front of. Him
IF i could get to free, agency which is still
a ways. Away but IF i can get to free,
AGENCY i can name my. PRICE i can make ten.
FIGURES i could sign for a billion. Dollars if you

(49:48):
want to compel him to give thought to signing for less,
here then it would behoove you to give him the
best possible chance of, winning and that means maybe at
the trade deadline this year going all, in or maybe
at some point in the off season going all, in

(50:10):
or maybe with a guy Like Sal stewart ensuring that
If ellie, stays he knows he's going to play with that,
guy or maybe doing so with some of the starting,
pitchers like maybe at some Point Chase. Burns if this
is ever going to be About ellie's staying, here then
it's going to be about something other than. Dollars other

(50:30):
than dollars and. Cents the other thing and The reds
can can only control so much of, this but they
have control over it to a, degree is how much
do they? Win SO i guess there's the. Question i'll
be very honest with you. Today we got a lot
of folks between now and six, o'clock and So i'm
not sure we're going to have a ton of room
for phone calls at five point, three, seven, four, nine fifteen.

(50:53):
Thirty but, like if You're ellie right, now you could
ask yourself two, questions where CAN i make the most
amount of? Money the answer is probably Not. Cincinnati but
then the next question becomes where CAN i? Win can
The reds make that? Answer? Cincinnati it is up to
this front office to do. That quarter after, FOUR espn

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official word from The bengals on THAT Fc cincinnati will
host arguably the most famous athlete in the world. Tomorrow
will preview that game coming up in just about an,
hour and a really cool opportunity for an area college
baseball team is coming up On. Thursday we'll get to

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three AT. Gabp redds looking for a third consecutive. Victory
one of the biggest events of the summer takes place
this year On, Saturday june. Sixth it's hard for me

(52:20):
to even believe That i'm about to say. This it's
the twenty fifth Annual Red Legs. Run The ohio five
to twenty nine College Advantage Red Legs, run presented By,
trihalth is going to be AT. Gabp this is one
of the biggest fundraisers for The Reds Community. Fund and
if you've listened to this show for any amount of,
time you know how MUCH i love The Reds Community.
Fund it's one of the best races on the area running,

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calendar and it's one of the most fun events of
spring and summer here In. Cincinnati the executive director of
The Reds Community, Fund Charlie, frank is with us to
spend a few. Minutes awesome to have, you as, Always.
Charlie twenty five. Years it's hard to believe.

Speaker 9 (52:57):
It is and, MO i think you've probably been there
for at least of. Them but, yeah the history event
of this event is something THAT i. Love first of,
all was the first ever fundraiser for The Community, fund
and it's just gotten bigger and better over the, years
and it's become more. Diverse we have The All abilities
event with Children's hospital for the second. Year this, year

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the ten, k the five, k the one mile, event
The Gappers Kids Fun, Run so it's really.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Something special for.

Speaker 9 (53:24):
Fans and this thing has history getting back as you
know To Riverfront, Stadium Synergy. Field the last month Of
synergy is when the first event took place In september
of two thousand and, two before The Old.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Lady went down to. Demolition that.

Speaker 9 (53:41):
Winner, yes a lot of history with The Red Lakes.
Run and as you know, too since you're with us
at the finish, line it's such a cool experience for
walkers and runners to be on the field as they finish.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
And to celebrate at the.

Speaker 9 (53:53):
Ballpark so we hope a lot of folks will be
with us again On june.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Sixth and it's inclusive because there's something for. Everybody you've
got a five, k you've got a ten, k you've
got a one mile run and, walk you've got The
fun run for the, kids something for.

Speaker 9 (54:05):
Everybody, yeah and you, know no matter which event you
run or, walk you get a GREAT t. Shirt you
also receive a finishing medal courtesy A Trophy awards and
they're beautiful and you get a ticket to an upcoming
reg game plus the party on The Great American Ballpark Fan.
Zone we think it's a great. Deal you can save

(54:29):
five dollars if you register before the end of this,
week so midnight On may. Fifteenth if you register now
At reds dot com Slash, run you can still save five.
Dollars but even if you, Don't packet pickup will be
the day, before On, Friday june. Fifth it will be
at the main entrance To Great American ballpark most of the.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Day folks can either register.

Speaker 9 (54:51):
Then or pick up their packets and hopefully join us
on a beautiful sun splash day On, Saturday june.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Sixth and everything that happens on the six is aimed
at helping out The Reds Community. Fund AND i said
this to you for like two decades, Now. Charlie i'm
just so impressed by the work that you do and
how many baseball fans and potential baseball fans you guys
touched and so give folks an idea of what THE
rcf is up to these.

Speaker 9 (55:18):
Days, well you, know we're still adhering to our, mission
which IS i think a wonderfully simple. One we're really
committed to, baseball softball education and community.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Building the community.

Speaker 9 (55:32):
Building takes the shape sometimes of field, renovation and just
a couple of weeks, ago we dedicated our first, beautiful
new synthetic infield and renovated complex At South Ripley High,
school our first big.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Projects in Southeast. Indiana so you.

Speaker 9 (55:46):
Know we're the ballfield are much more than just the,
game as the Entire South ripley community would tell, you
it's something that speaks, to you, know the community itself
and a gathering place and community, pride pride and.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Place you.

Speaker 9 (56:05):
Know the field renovation is a big piece of what
we do our annual community makeover WITH p AND g
and The Cincinnati zoo And children's And kroger And ge
and many others where we try to go into a.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Neighborhood this year will Be Winton.

Speaker 9 (56:17):
Hills and bring a lot of innovation and technology and facilities,
upgrades you, know using The red brand as a way
to build some excitement around that type of. Work but
day to, day it's the you, know what's going on
at The Red Youth. Academy it's the baseball and softball,
programs it's OUR stem, program it's OUR rcf scholars for

(56:38):
all of our nine through twelfth graders that, are you,
know helping kids that some of them were with us
seven eight years before they graduated high. School so we
really hope that these programs give kids and families that
maybe wouldn't have access to baseball because it's such it's
such an expensive sport and it can really be somewhat.
Exclusive you, know these programs hopefully are bringing our game

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here in the city to.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Everyone Charlie frank is with, us the executive director of
The Reds Community. Fund the twenty fifth Annual Red Legs
run is going to Be, Saturday june. Sixth all, races
the five, k the ten, k the one mile, run
walk And, roll The Gappers Kids Fun, run every single
one of, them and Inside Great American. Ballpark and on
top of all, this you get a ticket to a,

(57:23):
game which is among the cool things that you guys.

Speaker 9 (57:26):
Provide, yeah you, know most things that we do will
include a ticket to a, game and we you, know
we hope so we hope that folks will come down
and celebrate with. Us but that's always been a part
of the. PACKAGE i, mean no matter what it is
that we, do we want to get, Kids we want
to get people down here to the. Ballpark this is
something THAT i don't need to convince you. Of you

(57:47):
are such a great fan and spend a lot of
time down, here and you know that there's special connections
and bonds that are part of being at A red home.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Game regardless of what is happening on the.

Speaker 9 (57:58):
Field so you, know a lot of programs that we
host include the game. Ticket certainly The Red Lags, run
it's a part of that. Package and again we hope
THE t, shirt the race, experience you, know and you're
going to meet some of our baseball and softball kids
out on the course because when you're out there at a,
waterstop we want people to remember why it is that
we're out there raising money that so much good can

(58:19):
come through baseball and, softball and we're going to want
to see everybody at.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
That at The reds game as.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Well, Saturday june, sixth it's one of the best events
of the. Summer you can go and register right now
At reds dot. Com Slash run starts at eight o'clock
in the morning AND i Will i'm Assuming i'm going
to be there. AGAIN i haven't gotten the official, invitation
but it's on my.

Speaker 9 (58:41):
Calendar, Well i'll tell you what that official INVITATION mo
is going to happen in about eleven seconds after this phone.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Call will look for the.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Call very. Good i'll see you then and looking forward to. It,
man thanks so.

Speaker 9 (58:57):
Much, hey you know, what also what A Fank college
advantage and try health speak At. Orthopedics we have so
many great partners that bring this event to life and
that have for, years and you know so we want
to make sure that they're recognized as. Well but we
appreciate your involvement and look forward to seeing you at
the start line and the finish line this year.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Month thanks so. Much you got. It we'll see, Then,
charlie thanks so. Much, okay that's our. Guy Charlie, frank
executive director of The Reds Community fundcutterreds Dot com slash Run,
Saturday june. Sixth The Cincinnati bengals have just made it
Official bengals And Falcons, Sunday november the, eighth At Bernabeau

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stadium In. Madrid that is going to be a nine
to thirty Am eastern time. Game cincinnati has obviously played
overseas twice against the Then Washington redskins in twenty. Sixteen
that game ended in a. Tie they lost In london
to The La rams in twenty. Nineteen madrid hosted its
FIRST nfl game last, Season bengals And falcons one, Day

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november the, eighth that Is week. Nine that game at
nine thirty in the morning Here eastern, time twenty nine
minutes after four. O'CLOCK a lot more on that and
a few things to get to with our sports legal,
expert including the latest On Brendan. Soresby. Next Attorney STEWART
Wd penrose from The Manila Law group will join us
ON espn fifteen Thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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reds And nationals first of three tonight at A Great american.
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that means we talk with our sports legal, expert Attorney STEWART.
W penrose from The Manilo Log, group about a whole

(01:01:55):
bunch of different. Topics awesome to have you as, Always.
Stewart how are you right?

Speaker 10 (01:02:00):
Man how about?

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Yourself i'm doing, well doing better Than Brendan, soresby AND
i feel like this has almost become the The Brendan
soresby segment because we talked about the FORMER uc quarterback a.
Lot the latest development Is ohio And indiana gambling regulators
are going to be looking into into his gambling. Activities
and SO i Guess i'll start with. This what are
these respective?

Speaker 10 (01:02:21):
Agencies, well they're the they're the gaming commissions of the
state gaming you, know casino. Commissions you, know they're the regulatory.
Bodies they oversee the, uh the legal sports, books the,
casinos the uh, licensing uh you, know a monitor for you,
know suspicious activity and uh and re. Enforcement so that's
that's what they.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Are so like the N c DOUBLE a is going
to look Into brendan sores being the N c DOUBLE
a doesn't have subpoena. Power do these agencies have subpoena?

Speaker 10 (01:02:47):
Power, yes they typically, do uh you, know either direct
subpoena power or just through their investigative. Authority you, know
they can certainly uh you, know request sportsbook. Records they
can uh you, know review hown, activity look at wager,
patterns you, know timmying of, bets betting. Mystery, yes absolutely they.
Can they can gather all the information that they.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Need so they gather, information they do an, investigation they have,
findings what do they do with the. Findings they can
certainly share.

Speaker 10 (01:03:16):
Them they can share them with you, know with law
enforcement if if, appropriate WITH, uh with the, casinos with
attorney general's, offices other other other, agencies you, know in
this case With, soorphy they could presumably share them with
the N c DOUBLE a or with the universities as.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Well does it seem to you like it's becoming at
least a little bit more likely that beyond N C
DOUBLE a, problems he may be facing some legal.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Issues it's hard.

Speaker 10 (01:03:44):
To, say, UH i, MEAN i don't necessarily want to
put that out there on him. Yet we'll see what.

Speaker 7 (01:03:49):
Comes out of.

Speaker 10 (01:03:49):
IT i, mean you, know they're, gonna you, know see
if there's any betting on inside, information if there's any,
fraud if there's any you, know sort of organized gambling.
Here you, know that's what we, would you, know make
this rise to some sort of some sort of criminal,
exposure and we'll just we'll just have to see what
information comes out of. It, so you, know certainly as
tough a place for a twenty two year old man

(01:04:11):
to be IN i, can you, know certainly understand. That
but we'll just have to see what comes out of.
It and you, know as we talked about last, week
he's getting out of it by hiring a very good
lawyer on his. Side so you, know we'll have to
see what.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Happens all, right let's stay in college football up the
road In, Athens Ohio university fired after just one season
their head, Coach Brian smith On december the seventeenth for,
cause citing, quote serious professional misconduct and participating in activities
that reflect unfavorably on the. University and there were allegations

(01:04:43):
of extramarital, affairs including one with an undergraduate, student which
the school says Violated smith's. Contract smith is going to
Sue Ohio university for being. Fired can you explain the
grounds of his?

Speaker 10 (01:04:56):
Case, YES i, mean he's essentially stay being the you,
know reporting their statements, saying you, know, Hey i'm in
the process of a divorce AND i, was you, know
dating an adult who happened to be a student At Ohio,
university and you know that much was. Coincidental and he's
stating that there's nothing in his contract or nothing in
the university rules that says he couldn't do. That and

(01:05:18):
as far as the, alcohol he said that there was
a him and some assistant. Coaches apparently we're having a
celebratory drink after a. Game and you, know, well this
is gonna be really interesting to see what comes out
in discovery if it even makes these you, know if
it even makes it to that. Level is there more
to this story than than j justics? Retort you, know you,

(01:05:38):
know certainly you would think, that you, know the universe
would dig deeper than that if if it's, not but
if it, is you, know who did he who did
he upset? There who's who's whose? Dad? Side did he get?
On that's the first thing THAT i thought a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Case like this says not a very strong likelihood of
ever getting to a, courtroom, right.

Speaker 10 (01:06:00):
You wouldn't, think, so you, know discovery can be messy
for all. Sides you, know if you're, him you know
you want to be able to turn them a new.
Lead if you want to be able to you, know
get whatever, biot you can continue on with your coaching.
Career and you, know by all you, know at least
by the record at the one year at ou seems
to be a good, coach you, know who otherwise have
a good. Future so you, know having some clean settlement

(01:06:22):
here you think would be in his interest and likely
and OU's as, well because they don't want that information
coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Either our sports legal, expert Attorney STEWART. W penrose from
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cubs although with what happened last week At Wrigley, FIELD
i don't have a lot of room to make fun
of The Chicago. Cubs but they have those Iconic wrigly,
rooftops and The cubs have actually bought a bunch of,
them but there are still some that are independently, owned

(01:06:48):
and The cubs and those owners of those rooftops are
involved in. Litigation and my understanding is they had a
deal for years where those folks could sell admission to
those rooftops and The cubs got to cut that agreement has.
Expired those rooftop owners are still trying to sell tickets
to their, rooftop which gives people who buy tickets access

(01:07:10):
to The cubs game Inside Wrigley. Field The cubs are
sewing they're involved in. Litigation can you explain this and
tell me how this may.

Speaker 10 (01:07:18):
Unfold, yes you, know it seems like this is going
to proceed forward to, trial the judges allowing it to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Do.

Speaker 10 (01:07:25):
So you, know The cubs are saying that they're you,
know monetizing the views Into wrigley you, know and that
this is different than, say say you OR i honed
the home Against Wriggley, field you, know right up against Wriggly.
Field we're absolutely entitled to sit on our on our
rooftop deck and you, know view into the stadium or
joy whatever views we, Have but there's a difference when
you monetize. It and here they're stating, that you, know

(01:07:48):
the revenue of these rooftops is exclusively generated off Of
cubs games and events that they produced right there In Wrigley,
field and that and that's the essential that they're taking
income away from the because that those are people that
otherwise be buying tickets to go To riverfield and see
The cubs. There so that's the that's their perspective on,
it and we'll have to see what a what a

(01:08:10):
jury ultimately decides, here but it seems like it's going.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
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so much for joining. Us it has been a very
Busy tuesday, afternoon call me a busy week at the
ballpark AT, gabp especially On. Thursday reds And nationals play
the final game of that three game. Series but it's
the first game of a doubleheader because you'll Have Red's

(01:12:35):
nats and Then xavier takes On creighton in A Big
East baseball. Game and if you have a ticket to
The reds, game you can stick around for free and
watch The musketeers and The Blue. Jays tickets for The
Red xavier doubleheader are available At reds dot com Slash.
Xavier billy O'Connors team has qualified for The Big East,
tournament won three consecutive. Games an awesome opportunity to play

(01:12:56):
AT gabp against a good program On, thursday and in
the middle of all that he gets to be on our,
show Which i'm sure is the highlight of his. Week,
Coach it's awesome to have. You how are, You i'm doing? Great,
noo how are? You i'm doing. Well you've played a
Great american ballpark, before back in twenty. Nineteen, nonetheless an
awesome opportunity for your. Guys, yeah super.

Speaker 7 (01:13:16):
Excited you, KNOW i, mean all of our guys they
dream of being big leaguers someday and some hopefully we'll
get that, chance but the majority, won't you, Know so
to strap it on and play in a big league
park and try of what will be a good crowd
and an important game for us. Too like you, know
this is something kids dream of, playing dream of doing
there at their whole, career and they'll get an opportunity
to do it this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Week, yeah with a three way, tie a three way
tie atop The Big east. Standings so there's regular season.
Implications we'll talk more About Great American. Ballpark you are
going to be in an event That xavior hosts The
Big East tournament At Prasco, park and obviously there you're
focused on what's happening on the. FIELD i have said
this for a couple of years. Now that is one

(01:13:56):
of the hidden gems Of Tri state. Sports The Big
East tournaments speak to that. Event for, me it's.

Speaker 7 (01:14:02):
Incredible you, know the people out Of prasco are so
incredibly generous with what they do to put on the
events that they, do and specifically to host the biggiest.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Tournament it's an unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (01:14:11):
Environment when we first came in the biggest, conference we
bounced from location in the location with our conference, tournament
and there's some cool places we, played but there's never
really much of an environment ever since we settled in At.
Prasco like you, know there's three four five thousand people
there at every single, game and, obviously you, know one
of the big draws is the free, stuff the free,
food the free everything that they have out. There but
also you know that that kind of, crowd it creates

(01:14:31):
a cool, environment and especially for us to get to
play in front of a home crowd like, that it's
a special, thing you, Know and so, yes the people
haven't been out, there you have to. Go it's a
one of a kind. Experience the treatment is first class for,
us is the college, athletes but especially for the fans.
Too so it's an awesome event to be a part.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Of yeah that that event starts Next, wednesday a week from,
tomorrow xavierl play the night game regardless of what, seed
AND i, AGREE i could not encourage any somebody who
loves baseball to go check that out At Prasco. Park
you guys are heading here down the stretch with a little,
momentum AND i got to think a lot of that
is based on some of the hard lessons you guys

(01:15:11):
learned early in the. Season you bid off a lot
with your non conference. Schedule what's the. Payoff, BEN.

Speaker 7 (01:15:17):
I think we're, prepared you. Know it's fun for me
as a coach to tell our guys that they are
prepared right, now that they.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Have seen everything that can be.

Speaker 7 (01:15:24):
Seen we have seen the best pitcher in the country
out Of Oregon state And Dax. Whitney we have seen
some of the best, offenses and that we have seen
the best offense in the country At Georgia. Tech we
been played in some of the toughest. Environments we have
taken red, eyes we have played in every time. Zone
like there's nothing that's going to be thrown at us
that we haven't seen that we aren't prepared.

Speaker 6 (01:15:41):
For.

Speaker 7 (01:15:42):
Now we still got to go do it. Right we
still got to make the plays and make the. Pitches
but we're prepared for what's coming our, way you. Know
and to me that that's the goal when you get
to this time of the, year AND i think this
is why we're usually playing our best at this time
of the. Year is it we've seen the adversity that
that's coming our, way you, know and we've grown from,
it AND i think we're a better team now than
we were when the season. Started it's always the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Goal give me one or two areas where you believe since,
then since Late february Early, march where your team has
grown the. MOST i think.

Speaker 7 (01:16:08):
Guys are just figuring out their, roles you, know like
when you get into the fire and you get into
all the cross country travel and the teams we, play you,
know it's they don't exactly know how the pieces all fit.
Together and that that's college athletics, nowadays with the transfer
port on the turnover that happens for every roster in every.
SPORT i think when you get to this time of,
year you start to guys start to lean into their,
roles and if they're a defensive, replacement they're gonna be

(01:16:30):
the best defensive replacement they can. Be if they're left handed,
specialists they're going to go in and get the lefty
out when they need, to if they need to steal a,
base and that's what they're going to. Do AND i
think that over the course of the past, month month
and a half really since we started a, conference guys
are really lean into their roles and they've excelled at.
It so we've got a good thing going right. Now
we're pretty confident we're playing good baseball. Consistently, again we
got to go do. It that doesn't mean that we're

(01:16:50):
going to do it On. Thursday we're going to do
it next. Week but we can carry the momentum that
we've been playing with over the course of the past
month or so for the next. Month, Hosfuly we're gonna
play some.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
GOODASEBALL i, think, well how how much of a luxury
is it to, have let's, say a guy Like Luke,
hammon not just A cincinnati, guy but a guy who
has been a part of your program now since twenty twenty. Two,
yeah it looks.

Speaker 7 (01:17:10):
Incredible he's one of the most self made Players i've ever.
Seen he transferred INTO us after head play through his freshman,
year and admittedly he wasn't a very good. Player you,
know he wasn't, strong he wasn't, skilled he didn't have
a lot going for him those first couple of weeks on.
Campus and so many kids NOWADAYS i think look outwardly and, say, oh,
Well i'm you, know it's somebody else's, fault or you,

(01:17:32):
Know i'm gonna hide And i'm going to you, know
not let people know That i'm not strong enough in
the weight, Room and luc just, said you, know, What
i'm gonna get. Better i'm gonna work really hard at.
Baseball i'm gonna work really.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Hard in the weight.

Speaker 7 (01:17:40):
Room i'm gonna work really hard at taking care of my.
Body and day by day he got, better and then
month by month and year by, year and he's come
to a point now where he's one of the best
players on our, team you, know and he turned himself into.
That and he's. Skilled, again it's not like he's he's
got he's got some natural ability to but like he
turned himself into a really really special. Player and to
have a guy that's been around for five years, now
been through all the adversity that we experienced every single,

(01:18:02):
year he's. Ready you, know he's a guy that we
know he can count on down the strats you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Mentioned you, know you'll play a Great american ballpark On,
thursday which will be an awesome experience and it's a
chance for all your guys and for The creighton players
too to play in a big league. Environment, obviously that's
what everybody aspires to as a college. Coach you, know
they've pushed back the, draft WHICH i think from a
college perspective has been. Beneficial and maybe you'll, disagree but

(01:18:27):
we're drafting players now In july instead of when the
season is still ongoing at least the. Postseason but this
time of, year what's your role like when you've got
guys who are going to have their name called here
in a couple of.

Speaker 7 (01:18:39):
Months, yeah it's an exciting, thing you, Know AND i
can't do a forum like those guys got to go,
perform you. Know but the role THAT i can fill
for him is to fill in the. Blanks you, know
these scouts show up at the games and a lot
of them do their homework and meet with the, kids
but they don't always know for sure the kind of
people they. Are so that's my job to fill in
still in the blanks arm a little. Bit the great,
part like we have some of the best kids in the.

(01:19:01):
Country you. Know we've got some guys like A clayver,
dad another local kid At, Moller Ryan peach that's you,
know from up in Northeast. Ohio both guys are going
to be pretty high draft picks this. Year and you,
KNOW i describe both of them the, same like if
you have a, daughter you hope they marry guys Like
Ryan pas And Claver Dead they are first class human.
Beings they're unbelievable, teammates are incredible, workers and they're really
talented baseball players on top of. It so you want

(01:19:24):
you want some of your best players to be some
of the best people on your, team and you, know
those two definitely check those boxes for.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
US i, Know Zavor university and The reds have come
up with this, collaboration and there's a sports component to,
it there's an education component to, it and So i'm
sure this is this is an all shoot of. That
but but how does an event Like thursday come?

Speaker 7 (01:19:44):
About, well you, know it takes some some unique. Scheduling
the times that it's worked out before is we need
to play behind A red's game, basically and so a
lot of times the day games are On, thursdays and
you ually we aren't playing On. Thursdays so it lined
up that this is the last weekend of the regular,
season which is always A thursday To saturday, weekend lined

(01:20:06):
up that they were at, home they had an early,
game so we have some flexibility to play. After the
red has been, awesome you, know accommodating us and making this,
happen and it's gonna be such a cool. Experience for
all of our players and all of our fans and
all of our alumni that'll be. There so they've been
awesome to work. With but, yeah we kind of look
at it every year to see if there's anything that lines,
up and in a lot of times it's just the

(01:20:27):
dates don't match. Up but this, year luckily it, did
and obviously they were super accommodating and making it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Happen, yeah it's gonna be fun see A reds, game
see A xavier, game The musketeers taking On creighton after
The reds And nationals, game and if you already have
a ticket For reds, match you can stick around and
watch some college baseball and that's going to be a
lot of. Fun you can get tickets right now for
that game for both games At reds dot com Slash

(01:20:52):
xavier AND i cannot recommend. ENOUGH i don't care where
you went to. School the biggiest tournament In prasco is
an awesome. Event xavier will play Next wednesday night at
six point, thirty a beautiful setting for springtime evening. Baseball
can't thank you. Enough, no you have a lot going.
On best of Luck thursday the rest of the, way
and obviously next week In. Mason thanks so.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Much, Thanks, NO i appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
It awesome. Dude right, there That's billy, O'Connor head baseball
coach At Xavier. University they will play at A Great
American ballpark Again reds dot com slash. Davery you can
get tickets for the doubleheader starting at eight, bucks so
you See reds Gnats Xavier creighton and that's going to
be a lot of. Fun billy O'Connor's team tied for

(01:21:36):
first place in The Big east With yukon And Saint.
John's three regular season games to. Go The musketeers have
one three straight and then they'll play At Prasco park
and the game A Great American ballpark is going to be,
terrific the biggest tournament At Prasco. Park like you talk
to anybody who has gone to, that they're, like, dude
had no. Idea went in twenty twenty two or three

(01:22:00):
three for the first time and weather was an issue
and it was still just an awesome. Experience so go
go check that out next week if you love. Baseball Prasco,
park awesome setting for The biggies tournament Against. Xavier will
play in that game and that Event wednesday at six.
Thirty first, things First creighton this, weekend including a game
AT gabp On, thursday and again Eight bucks starting at eight,

(01:22:23):
Bucks Reds Nats Xavier Creighton reds dot com Slash xavier
fifteen quarter after FIVE espn fifteen. Thirty by the, way we've,
done we've done Some we've done some internet slew. Thing
so we have found we have found a group Of

(01:22:43):
bengals Fans la Jungla. Hespana AND i am not fluent In,
spanish so my, apologies but these are apparently Diehard bengals
fans who live In. SPAIN i do not know if
they live In, madrid but uh AND i listened to
about thirty seconds of one of their podcasts and it

(01:23:04):
was not done In. English but The bengals are going
to play In madrid against The falcons On november the,
eighth which is week. Nine that was confirmed. Today the
game is gonna kick off at nine Thirty eastern. Time
we're trying to get on somebody From, spain ideally A bengals.

(01:23:26):
Fan it did just occur to. Me Baba, miller who
played for The bearcats this past, season played For Real
madrid and he's From, Majorca. SPAIN i don't know if
he's A bengals fan or if he likes, football but,
anyway if before six, o'clock we also found now this
is this is A twitter feed that hasn't been updated

(01:23:49):
Since december of twenty, twenty and SO i don't know
if the whereabouts of this. Guy hopefully he's. Okay BUT
i found a guy Named alberto who who's On twitter
At Los bengals com and it says Only bengals And
reds fan In, Madrid. Espanna and apparently he used to

(01:24:10):
contribute to sincijungle dot, com which is a terrific. Website
so we are looking for Either alberto or one of
these folks from this other group of Dudes bengals. Fan
we also Have tarren just sent a tweet To Antonio.
Sanchez Antonio, sanchez is he one of the folks with

(01:24:30):
the group Of bengals fans In? Spain? Yes all, Right
well what time do we think it is In? Madrid
with six hours behind us THAT i am not sure
that so it's probably pretty late at night In. Spain
tomorrow we have we're. Filled we're broadcasting for five one

(01:24:50):
three day you see so But i'm we're looking For
Antonio sanchez or our guy here who hasn't updated his
Tw twitter. Feed Los bengals come or one of the
folks For la Jong. Lajspana and If i'm saying that
incorrectly and ideally we need somebody who speaks you, Know,

(01:25:12):
english that would would help help our. Purposes so we're
trying to get that. Done bengals In, spain and we
want to let folks, know you, know About. Madrid what's
there to do? There how cool is? It whether must
go to? Spots we'll. SEE Fc cincinnati is a big

(01:25:32):
game tomorrow Against Inter miami And Messi sasha question from
An APPLE. Tv we'll talk about that match.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
Next CINCINNATI'S espn fifteen thirty, traffic.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
WELLS p fifteen thirty moeg. OR Fc cincinnati gained a
point this, weekend but you are being reasonable if you
kind of got greedy when they were up two goals
Against charlotte let a two point slip, away nonetheless huge.
Tilt tomorrow playoff rematch five to, one three day at
The Soccer venue in The West end Of. Cincinnati Is

(01:26:06):
cincinnati Hosts. Miami APPLE tv has it From APPLE tv
our our our, Friend. Sasha question is with us to
to talk about the. Match it's awesome to have, You.
Sasa how are you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
Any good?

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Thing it's the, thing it's the, button all? Right Is
sasha with?

Speaker 9 (01:26:24):
Us?

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Now? OH i gotta put them? On all, RIGHT i
see the phone. Now what we're hoping to do Is
sasha lives in The United. States what we're we're hoping
to do is is break off a phone call To
spain here in a few. Minutes sasha is with. Us,
Sasha it's awesome to have. You how are?

Speaker 6 (01:26:39):
You?

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
Yeah what's?

Speaker 10 (01:26:42):
Up can you guys hear me and?

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
Clear and that's that's We you, know we we can
send somebody to the dark side of the, moon but
making a phone call sometimes kind of. Difficult so it's.
Nice it's nice to nice to hear your. Voice nice
to hear you guys.

Speaker 7 (01:26:55):
Too what's going?

Speaker 11 (01:26:55):
On let's talk To cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Football the last TIME Fc cincinnati Played, MIAMI i felt
like they spent that game and it was a playoff
game standing in awe OF messi is that going to happen?

Speaker 6 (01:27:04):
TOMORROW i had better not.

Speaker 11 (01:27:07):
Happen THOSE Fc cincinnati fans better make sure that these
players are ready to. PLAY i cannot disagree with. You
that was a beat down in the playoffs that looked
like there was one team on the field full of
stars and the other team full of stars didn't show
up in the playoffs last. Year SO i think it's
On evander And denk to step up in this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Game you know they've had the sixth match streak without
with getting a point in every single. One that's a
very clumsy way of putting. IT i thought they were
going to get three points for a while On saturday, Again.
Charlotte i'm not sure their defensive. Issues while they have
been they've been addressed and they're better in that, End
i'm not sure they've been completely. Rectified AM i being

(01:27:46):
reasonable If i'm concerned That miami is going to expose
what has been a weakness for this team for most
of the.

Speaker 11 (01:27:51):
Season, NO i think that's a reasonable.

Speaker 7 (01:27:54):
Thought let's.

Speaker 11 (01:27:55):
Listen The miami, attack you always, know has the capability
of putting up three or four goals in a, Game
so you've got to be focused for ninety. Minutes you've
got to limit the spaces That messi gets the, ball
and when he has time and space and picks up
the ball in between the. Lines you just got to
keep your lines really really tight and try to get
pressure for the. Ball all easier said than. Done most
teams have said that for the last twenty, years And

(01:28:16):
messi has still found ways to find his moments of
magic to put the ball in the back of the,
net but control has been an. Issue controlling the game
with the ball FOR Fc cincinnati is an important part
of this.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Game it is good That evander is playing Like evander
And Kevin. Dank Kevin DENKEY i think has been pretty
consistent for most of the. Season who else in The
orange And blue has to step.

Speaker 11 (01:28:38):
UP i really like the way That buka has been
playing as a wing back. LATELY i think if he
continues to play, well it bodes well for the. Team
and Then gee has a big job in the middle of.
Midfield now just kind of being that guy that has
to be an. Organizer you always have to stay. Centrally
you can't stray too far side the side or go.
Chasing but in the back, line, well whoever ends up

(01:29:01):
playing back there has to be. ORGANIZED i really like
this young, Kid, chiilla but we can't throw too much
on his.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Shoulders just.

Speaker 7 (01:29:07):
Yet so whether It's.

Speaker 11 (01:29:08):
Matt miosga And Miles robins And Nick, haglan those veterans
that are back there have to be really vocal and
really good organizers and tuned in for ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:29:16):
Minutes all.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Right you HAVE Fc cincinnati currently occupying the third position
in The Eastern, CONFERENCE i, guess tied for second With
New ENGLAND Fc. Cincinnati it's been a slow climb from
think for about five minutes they were outside the postseason.
Picture now they're sitting there tied WITH Dc. United how
do you handicap The Eastern?

Speaker 11 (01:29:33):
CONFERENCE i think THAT i Think nashville is far and
away the best team in The east so, far and
they sit at the top of the. Table New england
has been a surprise and for as bad As Inter
miami has been or you, Know i'm saying bad.

Speaker 7 (01:29:48):
Quote unquote bad because they have.

Speaker 11 (01:29:49):
Two losses really in about fifteen or sixteen games in all,
competitions but our expectations For miami are so. High those
are the two teams that are the class in The,
East nashville And Inter. Miami after, that there's just a
pack of teams that are. Chasing AND i can't call
it whether It's, Cincinnati chicago Or New. England that, said
who's going to end up being the third? Seed BUT
i think those three teams are going to end up

(01:30:10):
battling for the third.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Seed all, Right, hey we're in the, conversation and five
or six weeks, AGO i wasn't sure that was going
to be the. Case tomorrow is is going to be
a lot of. Fun, SASHA i have a great, call,
Man thanks so.

Speaker 7 (01:30:20):
Much thank you very.

Speaker 11 (01:30:22):
Much looking forward to that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
One that is the Great sasha question From APPLE TV
Mls action tomorrow, Night West end Of CINCINNATI Fc, cincinnati
Hosting Lenno messi And Interer. MIAMI I i just got
a not A, dm BUT i Got, Hey SU's him

(01:30:44):
in As, vico AND i JUST i sent him a
tweet AND i, said can we call? You and he said.
Yes i'll try not to speak so loud because of
my little daughter and sorry for My, english but come,
on all, Right so now we GOT i get to
see IF i don't my least favorite thing on earth
is dming. People BUT i WILL dm him and we'll
see if we can get this guy on From. Spain

(01:31:06):
now you have heard our difficulty and sometimes making phone
calls across town or somewhere within the Continental United. States
SO i will be very transparent with. YOU i have
very little confidence that we will be able to execute
an international phone. Call like there are times where it
feels like IF i want to make a phone called

(01:31:26):
A norwood using our phone, system it's not going to.
Work So i'm doing this with some. Apprehension BUT i
GOT i got to slide into this DUDE'S dms and
get a, number and we'll call this guy From. Spain
before we do, that our, Guy Will, grimmer our golf,
expert helps us make some money on THE Pga championship.

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
Next CINCINNATI'S espn fifteen thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Traffic all, RIGHT i believe we're moments away from connecting
with a guy In spain who's a Big bengals, fan
since The bengals are playing In madrid In. November first things,
FIRST Pga championship was happening not A madrid but in
Suburban philadelphia at Aronom. Inc Will grimmer is with us
the second greatest golfer to ever come From Ohio State

(01:32:10):
law fifty. Nine he'll teach a. Lessons AM i saying?

Speaker 12 (01:32:12):
That?

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Right how do you pronounce the name of this golf.

Speaker 13 (01:32:13):
COURSE i think It's ironomic Ironom. Inc, yeah, okay very,
good so fun, fact the architect who designed Ironom inc
also Designed. Macatiwa so both wow tournaments this, week same
style golf.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Course. Wow so this is just outside Of West? Philadelphia, yes,
yes you.

Speaker 13 (01:32:31):
Know they haven't been To philly for a major in
thirteen years since THE Us open At marion when Justin.

Speaker 14 (01:32:38):
Rosewan so it's going to Be philly's very. Excited all,
Right philly's got.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
To be very, excited more excited than they are for
The philadelphia seventy six ers who lost to The. Knicks, Sorry,
uh what type of player does this golf course?

Speaker 14 (01:32:50):
Favor this golf course is.

Speaker 13 (01:32:52):
LONG i believe they've added between three and four hundred
yards since they last. Played what the termament last week
was A truists several years. Ago With charlotte being a
anchor site for THE, pga so they rotate that. Around
so this is A some players on THE Pj tour
have played this golf, course but it hasn't looked quite
like it. Has it's going to favor someone who hits

(01:33:13):
the ball, along who hits the ball, straight and, uh
it's gonna be cool and potentially windy over there this,
Week so it's it's going to be a little bit
more of a it's A Us open style test than
maybe SOME pg.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
Championships all, Right so give me an idea of like
one or two storylines, that like a casual golf in
should be paying attention to this.

Speaker 13 (01:33:31):
WEEKEND i would say the number one story even though
it's kind of like. Overplayed it was almost like The
bengals winning a playoff.

Speaker 14 (01:33:38):
Game like every single.

Speaker 13 (01:33:39):
Year Is Jordan speith going into this week has the
opportunity for The Career Grand. SLAM i would Say rory
kind of almost overshaded that with The masters each, Year
but the reality is he's the only current player that
has an opportunity to win the Career Glens Grand slave
at least this, week and Then scotty has a chance
to do with THE Us.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Open SO i read golf, website going to golf dot,
COM i go to a golf, DIGEST i got to
gambling websites like The Action. Network everybody Loves Cam young this.

Speaker 13 (01:34:05):
Weekend well he's my favorite, Too, okay so Explain, WELL
i JUST i think for him it was a confidence
thing and probably a little bit of a mental breakthrough
to get that first, win and he did that last,
year and then he switched golf balls to a different
make and model earlier this year Within, titleist AND i,

(01:34:26):
like clearly it's working for him because he won The
players and he just won again a few weeks, ago
and so he's already got two wins on the. Year
he's already essentially tripled his win total in basically as
many as about four or five weeks, here AND i
just feel like his confidence is.

Speaker 14 (01:34:43):
High he's playing great.

Speaker 13 (01:34:44):
Golf he bombs the, ball and that's certainly going to
be an, advantage but he's also he's finding a lot
of fairways and his short games in a great.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
Spot you mentioned changing golf, balls SO i want you
to elaborate on that for, me because to, me every
golf ball is the. SAME i lose them all doesn't,
Matter but what is the.

Speaker 13 (01:34:59):
Difference so there's a lot of every, COMPANY i would,
say within their kind of tour department is probably going
to release about somewhere between the neighborhood of like five
to eight different variations of golf, balls and they all
have different, cores different materials being made and they're all
to impact the things that players. Prefer, softness, firmness high,
spinning low. Spinning maybe total trajectory will higher or lower flying.

(01:35:22):
Ball and again these things are very very important to
the high level of, golfer just that next kind of
level of intricacy that defines the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
Game, now you may have a sponsor obligation WHEN i
ask you this, Question but IF i need a sleeve
of balls for one, round which for, ME i need
more than a, sleeve what SHOULD i get?

Speaker 13 (01:35:41):
Titleist that's gonna be the. Answer they are indeed the
number one ball in, golf so that's going to be my.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
Answer very. Good let me run a couple of golfers pasture,
okay love And oberg's at plus two, thousand top ten
in five of his last six. Tournaments steer me away
or steer me.

Speaker 13 (01:35:57):
TORTUM i love betting any kind of like a top
ten or a top twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
Five, okay you.

Speaker 13 (01:36:03):
Know and at the same time you're, Correct LIKE i
was just pulling up strokes game teed De green here
and he's seventh on the. List and if you look
at the other names on this, list you Have, rory
you have COMMORE cowi you Have, fitzpatrick you Have, scotty
you Have, cameron and now you Have.

Speaker 14 (01:36:15):
Levevig so, again all those players our.

Speaker 13 (01:36:17):
Favorites he certainly belongs in the, conversation AND i think
it's more a matter of his only downside is his
ability to close On sundays and.

Speaker 14 (01:36:24):
So but you, know the other the arey is that
he's due to.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
Win With Scotty, scheffler a lot of folks are going to, say,
look he is still the top rated player in the.
World he's the best player in the. World take. That
when you're getting plus odds would you will in any golf.
TOURNAMENT i THINK i saw plus four hundred For.

Speaker 14 (01:36:39):
Scotty it's it's certainly it's certainly not.

Speaker 13 (01:36:43):
Bad Bet, okay you Know scotty at the end of the,
day he kind of he's starting to move into the
tiger category for, me which, is you, know until you
prove me, wrong you kind of have my have my.
VOTE i, mean let's face, it a lot of people
didn't Think scotty played that well at The, masters and
we kind of sneeze on the fact that he lost
BY i believe one.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
Shot, yeah and for about five minutes On, sunday you, thought,
boy he may do this.

Speaker 14 (01:37:06):
Right he's always, Lurking he's always in the.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Conversation care where you are where he. Is if you're
at the top of the, leaderboard you're still looking over
your proverbial.

Speaker 13 (01:37:14):
Shoulder, yes he's starting to create the Quote scotty, effect
kind of like the type where you see his name
on A sunday and you start to hit the panic
button a little. Bit so he's definitely he's definitely a
favorite for.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Show do you have any long shots that you might
go look A their odds aren't, great but why? Not
there's good value.

Speaker 13 (01:37:33):
HERE i really Like Ricky faller just because he's back
in the field in a major this. Week it's not The, masters,
Right you're back to a full field of one hundred
and fifty plus guys and he just shot A sunday
sixty five last. Week it's kind of weird saying it
for a guy that like was is and was as
popular As ricky, Is but like he's.

Speaker 14 (01:37:52):
Totally flying under the.

Speaker 13 (01:37:54):
Radar he's later in his, career the like he doesn't
have to do the press conferences, anymore like when you're
going to win a, major because people almost don't care
about him as much, anymore AND i think it puts
him like to, me he just seems to be playing
a lot of good golf this, year AND i could
just see him free wheeling and having some fun next
week and getting in.

Speaker 14 (01:38:11):
CONTENTION i like the.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
Change of THE Pga championship they made a couple of
years ago where it was kind of buried In, august
and now it's it's shortly after, augusta it's before THE us,
opened so that the major's calendar everything is really, tight,
right it's over by Late. July do you like where
they have situated THE Pga championship here in the middle Of.

Speaker 14 (01:38:29):
MAY i. DO i.

Speaker 13 (01:38:30):
DO i think it just creates a little bit more
continuity if like The masters was like kind of way
out on an island and then you got the three
and over three months at the end of the. Year
AND i also think with The olympics is starting to
get more and more respect and so with that being
every four years In, august it doesn't put them in
an awkward position of like what do you do about
THE pga and The, Olympics and so it just the

(01:38:52):
weather still is good enough in The, north like it's
gonna be good weather In. Philly you can still have
it all over the country In, may and it's. UH
i think it's a good For they.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Always felt like once you got past The Open, championship
THE Pga championship was on an, island like it was
sort of like the Forgotten. Major and now it takes
center stage here in the middle Of, may which is
prime golf.

Speaker 13 (01:39:10):
Season, YEAH i tell a lot of people LIKE i
actually think over the last half decade to a, decade
THE pga has been the most entertaining major because it's
had the most playoffs and it's had the most finishes
within one. Shot AND i think they pick a wider
variety of styles of, courses like they'll go to just
vastly different climates and, places whereas like THE us opens notoriously,

(01:39:30):
difficult The masters Is, augusta and obviously The british is.
Overseas SO i think there's a fun variety to THE,
pga and it just it always produces excitement On. Sunday
so to the casual golf, fan it's you could make
a case for it being the most entertaining to watch
on A sunday. Afternoon i'm going to go out To
macatijuah this weekend And i'm going to watch THE Pga
championship from Suburban philadelphia and Then i'm gonna get the

(01:39:51):
itch right And i'm gonna want to fix my.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
Swing what can you do for?

Speaker 13 (01:39:54):
Me, well you can come down and see me at
my facility At law fifty, nine and we if we've
made some good progress with you, now.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
Well those who have played with me would debate, that
but that is more of a statement about me and
less of an indictment on. You but, yes we've made
some tweaks and they have paid off the.

Speaker 14 (01:40:11):
Hybrid we started making some SERIOUS.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
I am no. THERE i am no longer unwilling to
take the hybrid out of the. Bag AND i told
you this WINTER i cannot hit this, club SO i
don't even.

Speaker 13 (01:40:22):
Try and NOW i at least bring it. Out it
at least makes its. Appearance all?

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
Right where can folks learn more or sign up for? Lessons?

Speaker 13 (01:40:29):
Yeah so My instagram page post a lot of videos
and content there as well as, YouTube, Instagram willie G,
Underscore loft fifty, Nine, Twitter grimmer Twelve underscore well and
Then mycountylinkcounty dot com.

Speaker 14 (01:40:44):
Backslash will grimmergolf.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
All, Right, will thanks so, Much Lost loft fifty. Nine
that's our golf. Expert we're gonna just pivot very. Quickly
we're going to go To, Madrid. Spain we're about to do.
This The bengals are going to play In madrid On
november the eighth against The Atlanta. Falcons that game is
gonna take place at nine thirty in the morning, here
three thirty in the afternoon In. Madrid and we have

(01:41:09):
been looking For bengals fans in that part of the
world and we have found one From. Madrid, hey sus
him and Z Vico tarreen can we Bring DO i
need to do anything? There he is? Loase that Is
Bengals jersey. On, hey SUS i can't thank you enough
for doing. This thank you for answering our call on
very short. Notice you got your Borow. Jersey what's up.

Speaker 6 (01:41:34):
That? Time i'm completely. Impressed it's like Our bengals are
going to come to my. CITY i don't believe. It
this light so.

Speaker 12 (01:41:41):
Crazy so now we are a feeling of. Excitement, unbelievable,
well completely.

Speaker 6 (01:41:48):
Amazing this is.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
Incredible i'm so happy for. You SO i GUESS i
got to start with. This how and why did you
become A bengals.

Speaker 12 (01:41:55):
Fan, well it's a complicated story because years AGO i
started to WATCH. NFL i started watching THAT Nfl Super,
bowl The patroots and The. Seahawks and the next YEAR
i started to play at the fantasy football AND i
choose The Russell wilson.

Speaker 6 (01:42:16):
And The seahawks. Defense BUT i choose again.

Speaker 12 (01:42:21):
Another time The dalton and The dalton and the defense
of The, bengals AND i started to watch. It then
In madrid in that, time there was An Ocean rock
bar and that the owner is A bengals, fan and
he has a really big flag of The bengals inside the, bar.

Speaker 6 (01:42:38):
And the bar was closed for all the few people
to watch The bengals.

Speaker 12 (01:42:43):
Match but the point THAT i fall in love with The,
bengals it was a terrible. Date this was the wild
card against The steelers in twenty, sixteen AND i saw
that game and this was also unfair and it's AND
i said, this this this team has to be.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Mine, Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
And that's Why i'm here A bengals.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Fan so what what a lot of us would argue
is the most devastating loss in franchise. History that's the
day that you said to, Yourself i'm in this is
this is my. Team wow.

Speaker 6 (01:43:19):
AWESOME i, KNOW i know it's unbelievable and it's.

Speaker 12 (01:43:22):
Crazy but here we are now enjoying all the now
the president of the of the, franchise BECAUSE i now
more enjoy than the twenty sixteen and the twenty seventeen
and all the.

Speaker 6 (01:43:36):
Years but here here.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
Now are there are there Other bengals fans that you
talk about the team with and watch games with and
you live In? Madrid? CORRECT i live In?

Speaker 6 (01:43:48):
Madrid all?

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
Right are there Other bengals fans In? Madrid In?

Speaker 12 (01:43:51):
Madrid we are no three or four more because we
have a. Group we have a we have a group
that it Called La Hungle. Spana it's like The Hispanic,
jungle and we are more or less In. Spain in this,
group we were forty more or less and we met

(01:44:12):
when we was the super when we met In, saragoza
so that was his three hundred kilometers From. Madrid we
met all the twenty people Of La, Hungley.

Speaker 6 (01:44:21):
Spana we met to watch The Super.

Speaker 12 (01:44:24):
Bowl but the most of the fans THAT i, know
it's In, barcelona.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
Okay all. RIGHT a lot of a lot Of bengals
fans In. Barcelona have you have you traveled To? Cincinnati
have you been here?

Speaker 12 (01:44:36):
Before i've been In cincinnati in a match against The
browns in twenty twenty.

Speaker 6 (01:44:44):
Four we, won and it was my first. Time it
was my first time in THE. Usa i've never been
in THE, usa my first, time AND i.

Speaker 12 (01:44:52):
Remember in the in the, TAILGATING i remember THAT i,
said who cares About who cares About New?

Speaker 6 (01:44:58):
York who cares About? Chicago my first time in this
country has to be In. Cincinnati, Yes and everybody was completely.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Crazy, YEAH i WISH i wish more people felt that.
Way when The bengals play like a one o'clock game
here in The United, states it's seven o'clock In, madrid
correct six hour. Difference, Yes and are those games? Accessible
can you watch them or can you find them in?
Bars how do? You how do you watch the team
week the?

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
Week during the thing?

Speaker 12 (01:45:24):
IS i usually watched in my home with other people
because it's so complicated. Too it's complicated to meet with other,
people so because of one is working or something like,
THAT i usually watch the matches.

Speaker 6 (01:45:36):
Alone but the thing, is my wife Is.

Speaker 12 (01:45:40):
Mexican SO i used to go To mexico AND i
meet WHEN i go there with with a really great
community In mexico Of bengals, fans and it's so and
there's they meet In. Mexico they meet in The chili's
in In Surkentes avenue in the center Of mexico. City
and every match there is fairy or forty.

Speaker 6 (01:46:03):
People.

Speaker 1 (01:46:04):
Wow, Really, now let me ask you a, question because
it's it's late at, night it's almost. Midnight are you
do you have a. Family are they wondering what you're
doing right?

Speaker 6 (01:46:12):
Now no career a? Bit?

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Please are people you live with wondering who you're talking
to or what you're doing right? Now?

Speaker 6 (01:46:24):
NO i don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
So all, right let me ask you. THIS i don't
have a lot of, time AND i can't thank you
enough for doing this on extraordinarily short. Notice i'm so
happy for you that you get a chance to have
your team come to your. City if folks From cincinnati
are traveling To, madrid Which i've heard is, beautiful give
my audience an idea of like two or three, things

(01:46:46):
whether it's a, restaurant a place to, eat something to,
do something to, see that they absolutely must have on their.

Speaker 6 (01:46:51):
List, well the thing.

Speaker 12 (01:46:53):
That you mustn't do is going to the going to
The Plaza major to eat in The plasma yor want
in The Plaza. Mayor this is for tourists and the
food is no good.

Speaker 6 (01:47:03):
Expensive don't do. It don't do. It, okay there is
a lot of.

Speaker 12 (01:47:08):
PLACES i can tell you one because there's so many
different places to do.

Speaker 6 (01:47:13):
It. Here you are going to go to The. Bernabeou
you got to the we have The.

Speaker 12 (01:47:18):
Doprado we have just walk just walk into the city
at the center of the city and it's. Beautiful but
eating in in every bar you. Can you can drink
your really cheap, beer take some tap as that is
really famous our Or spanish tapas is really famous in the.
World SO i have a lot of different things to,
do but very, important don't go to The Plaza mayor

(01:47:40):
because it's so, impassive expensive and the food is no good.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
Good this is this is WHY i wanted to have.
You now it's it's may so we have some time
and you have no remote idea WHO i, am which
is totally. Cool BUT I i can't thank you. Enough
we did an Exhaustive twitter. Search we found you as
we get closer to the, game as we get to
like the game is On NOVEMBER, A november THE, A
so if it's like a week or two, out can

(01:48:04):
we have you back and sort of have you give
our audience folks who may be traveling To madrid a
little bit of like a handy handy dandy game day
guide or like a guide of things they could do
beyond what you just gave, us and kind of talk
about you and your friend's excitement for the. Team can
we do that as the game gets.

Speaker 12 (01:48:21):
Closer, absolutely when you want to contact me And i'll
be for you.

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
Man, Awesome, well it's awesome to meet you. Again we
set this up about twenty five minutes, ago and you
were very patient because you connected with us instantly and
we were doing another. Interview so thank you for doing,
that And i'm thrilled for.

Speaker 6 (01:48:37):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
CONGRATULATIONS i hope you see a. Win you, KNOW i
traveled To london to see The bengals AND i saw
him tie AND i saw him.

Speaker 12 (01:48:44):
Lose So i've been NO i SEE i drow in twenty.
Sixteen it was my, first my first Mats okay to
the stadium and it was the tight against The Washington.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Redskins oh, yeah they that game was a tie and
they played three years and lost to The. Rams SO
i hope you see a victory And i'm psyched for.

Speaker 6 (01:49:05):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
Man it's so fun to talk With bengals fans from
other parts of the world to find out why and
how they became A bengals. Fan and the fact that
you Decided i'm hooked on the night of maybe their darkest,
HOUR i think is.

Speaker 12 (01:49:16):
AWESOME i hope the, thing, well the most important THING
i remember WHEN i was In, CINCINNATI i tell the
people BECAUSE i have a flag of my my group
in The spain Of la Hunl SPAN i, tell, yes,
guys there is A bengals fan Outside.

Speaker 6 (01:49:27):
Ohio because the people don't believe.

Speaker 7 (01:49:32):
That are?

Speaker 6 (01:49:33):
You are you From? Spain? Really?

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
Yeah? Yeah. Awesome well you seem like an awesome. Guy,
again thanks for letting us do this and uh enjoy, it,
man thanks so. Much In Jude, Okay, hodai, man, hoday thank,
you my, Friend. Houdai that's that is. AWESOME i am
so stoked for that. Dude Heyesusimanez vico From madrid and

(01:49:55):
we got to have him back to kind of give
the the the locals guide To. Madrid that is cool as.
Hell thanks To tarran for helping to set that, up
because we did that sort of last. Minute see we
can we can do a stream yard To, spain but
we can barely break off a phone called a. Newport,
tomorrow we're broadcasting FROM uc for five point three. Days Scott,

(01:50:16):
Saderfield Jared calhoun and others will be among my. Guests
have a great. Night thanks To tarran for. Producing thanks
to you for. Listening this IS espn fifteen Thirty Cincinnati Sports.

Speaker 4 (01:50:24):
Station CINCINNATI'S espn fifteen. Thirty traffic from THE uc

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