August 19, 2026 • 15 mins
Mo is Fred Segal of "Freezing Cold Takes" on bad takes, college football, and and his new book, “Freezing Cold Takes: College Football: An Incomplete History of the Game’s Most Inaccurate Statements and Predictions”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Luck down Bengal. It's preseason football. Will Choe Burrow and
the Bengals be ready to roar against Caleb Williams and
the Chicicgo Bears. It's a pig skin power struggle. Get
the Goal live from dan Or to Dave Lappet. Coverage
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are the new and improved iHeartRadio or ESPN fifteen thirty
(00:24):
in the official home of the Cincinnati Bengal.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
TONI is going to be on the call as well.
Just it's not like he doesn't work here.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Moegor ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you so much for listening
speaking to Tony, He joins us in forty minutes, Latest
training camp update, Brendiman and Jones on Baseball, Wise, Money
Sports and maybe the largest and longest shadow in Cincinnati sports.
Now what it is? I will tell you in fifteen minutes.
(00:52):
It's a good classic sports talk radio ts right there.
One of my absolute favorite Twitter slash x feeds is
Freezing Cold Takes. And I don't know if this is
I don't know if this is good. I don't know
if this is bad. I don't know if this is
an indictment against me. I don't know if it's a
statement about, uh, how accurate I've been with predictions and takes.
(01:15):
I've never been. Freezing Cold Takes Old Takes Exposed. So
Fred Siegel has for years run this account which sort
of exposes, and I think does so in a playful way,
exposes bad takes, takes that ended up proven to be bad,
or inaccurate predictions or analysis that proved to be faulty.
(01:36):
And he's got a book and it's called Freezing Cold
Takes College Football. He's done a pro football one came
out a couple of years ago as well. It's an
incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions.
And our buddy Jeremy Round from Fox nineteen made the book.
So we're excited for him, excited for Fred. The book
came out yesterday. It is awesome to have you, Fred,
Thanks so much for doing this. How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Great, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm sure there are folks in my audience, although not
that many I would imagine, but I'm sure there are
some who don't know what Old Takes Exposed is what
Freezing Cold takes us so give me the thirty second encapsulation.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Okay, Well, on social media, I have an x and
Instagram and a bunch of other of the social media platforms.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I basically it's pretty simple.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I post predictions or proclamations made by mostly media members,
mostly about sports about that turned out to be completely wrong,
and as soon as we can determine that they were wrong,
I'll post it if it's something that's interesting enough.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Is college football the sport that like feeds your feed
the most?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, well, it's the.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Perfect sport for bad predictions, I.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Thought, But I don't know. It may be tied with
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Of what feeds the most, just because there's so many
discussions about the NFL, and there's so many people sending
me things about the NFL because it's the most popular sport,
but college football has the It's by far the gold
mine of cold takes in terms of the way it
structured and the way that people treat it. It's so
(03:19):
emotional about it in the fact that there's so many teams,
there's so many players, there's just so many games, and
there's just so many narratives that you could put on
any game. It's so easy to overreact anything.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You send me the book, and I joke with a
coworker of mine, I'm like, he could have probably done
two chapters just on Ryan Day and Ohio State from
nearly two years ago when they lost to Michigan and
there was a lot there. Is there anybody, any figure
in college football that has lent itself, lent him or
herself to more freezing cold takes than Ryan Day in
the aftermath of Michigan twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I mean maybe coaches, certain coaches when they're hired, there's
an overwhelming positivity about them. I would say, like Scott
Frost when he was hired by Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Everyone thought it.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Was going to be so good there and it just
fell on his face. But the Ryan Day thing, what
was interesting to me was how Ryan Day was just completely.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Written off and was treated like he was going to
be fired.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
After that Michigan loss was a really bad loss, but
he had won so many games. No other coach has
ever been considered to be fired for performance based reasons
for doing that good it's it was, and and the
fact that Ohio State had such a good team, they
had so many great players that to just assume that
(04:40):
they weren't going to do well in the playoff was
kind of faulty within itself.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I think there's some of us who you know, were
familiar with what you do on social media that thought
this was going to be a book that was sort
of limited to the social media age. What I liked
about this, heck, there's there's there's a blurb in there
from one of my all time favorite you see Bearcat
football games, which is when they beat ron Data and
Wisconsin in nineteen ninety nine. That's years before social media.
(05:07):
So what is your favorite sort of I don't know,
pre social media, maybe pre internet example of freezing cold
takes in college football.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, there's a few.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I mean, one of my favorites is is the Sugar
Bowl in ninety three, which was between Miami and Alabama,
and Alabama was number two and Miami was number one.
Back then, you didn't always have a national championship game
because there was a Rose Bowl. Everyone was contracted at
different bowls for different conferences. So it was a fact
(05:39):
the national championship game and Alabama was just created like
they were written off, and everybody thought Miami was going
to pulverize them, and that's what Miami had the dynasty
going on back then, and Alabama killed them.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
But the takes during that game was before it, which
is unbelievable, and I highlight that in the book.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
But those were my favorite types of things to research, uh,
looking back at the old newspapers and finding the old
ones from before the social media and sometimes even before
the internet, which was the case for that game. So
that was a great one. And uh, yeah, the Cincinnati one.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Was really good.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Uh, I don't I think Jimbo Fisher was the offensive
cordner for that year.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
He was, Yeah, and that was a terrible UC team.
They had lost to Troy the week before. Ron Daane
was going to destroy him and he had a big game.
He also had a huge fumble in the end zone.
I helped tear down the goalpost that day. So that
that game that we're seeing seeing a blurb about that
game wore my heart.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah yeah, I mean it was because they were I mean,
Wisconsin was probably favored by a Gazilion employee, yep. Uh
and uh yeah, so they I think.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
They had a quarterback in there that wasn't that good.
They switched quarterbacks after that game and then they won
the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Uh yeah, and the Bearcats I think won two two
or three games that year. Fred Siegel Freezing Cole takes
an incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions.
Who is your your favorite? Who owns your favorite account
that you you know is just going to be a
gold mine during the college football season for for takes,
the don't age Well, oh.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, I guess. Uh, cal heard Tim Brando.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
He's great with coaching hires and he always defended them.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
And uh, I.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Mean there's some new ones that have come up who've
wrote risen up in the past years. Uh, some of
those SEC guys, uh, SEC Mike maybe, but the Coward's
always there.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
And I would say probably Brando, that would be the
two of my favorites.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But there's some other ones too.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You know. And in going through the book, I knew
I would see a lot of like Clay Travis and
Aaron Torres, and you know, those guys are great like
college sports take artists. I wasn't expecting to see like
guys like Aaron Boone And obviously this is not I
think when Aaron Boon was managing the Yankee. But you
got a tweet from Aaron Boone about college football. Who
(08:14):
is like, whether it's college football or any other sport,
like somebody whose take you have used that like the
average person would think would have no connection to the
sport they're pining about, or even sports at all.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well, you sometimes it's politicians.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, out of nowhere, we'll say something about somebody.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I mean, even the president.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I mean back in the day, he has some good ones.
Johnny Manziel randomly saying that Johnny Manziel is going to.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Be great for the Browns in between whatever he posts
about was tweeting about at the time, like that type
of thing. But politicians probably, But Aaron Boone he was
he wasn't with the Yankees men.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah, during that he was with you again, right, doing baseball,
so he was posting about. Yeah, surprisingly enough, he was
posting about every game was being played, like whether it's
NFL or He was very active on Twitter at times.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's sometimes Alex Cora too.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
When he was really Yeah he was doing but I
don't know how much football, but he was acting very
active and very responsive.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
So yeah, sometimes that happened.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It could be an actor too, maybe, but I can't
think of.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Specifics, but yeah, so so obviously. And look, there's a
lot of sports talk hosts, a lot of columnists, a
lot of people with podcasts who have been the people
that have gotten because I think most folks when you
when you like, you know, you'll retweet something that they
have put out there. Usually it's you know, folks are
good sports about it. When you give opinions publicly, some
(09:49):
of them are going to be proven to be wrong,
and you highlight that and it's done, I think in
a fun way for the most part. Right, I don't know.
But who's gotten mad at you, who's not had a
sense of humor about it?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Well, I mean I can't. I can't even remember.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Back in the day there was a bunch of high,
high level people who got mad at me but then
realized about what you were talking about.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
But people do get uh. I'd say more of the
writers get mad at me.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
About in the uh in my d ms, you know
what I.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Mean, which I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I don't share my ideas, but some get really mad
to the point where I feel bad for them that
they get really mad, like it's gotta be something going
on in their life.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But I think you know, the writers like that.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
There's a certain accounts, are certain platforms, like the guys
from when when Dead Finn was around.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, this is like five years ago. I guess when
those guys did not like me all.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
And they used to really really really try to bug
me and and kind of very snarky about it.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
But uh, more of.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
The writers than anything, because they they feel like they're
working hard doing and and I'm coming in and just
getting a cheap shot ont of there.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And that's really kind of the way they feel.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, I've dealt with that a little bit myself. Fred
Siegel Freezing Cold Takes and Incomplete history of the game's
most inaccurate statements and predictions as as we wait for
the college football season to begin. If you love the
sport at all, I promise you you will love this book. Fred.
Where is the best place for people to get it?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You get Amazon? Any what place you get books? Really?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Amazon, Bars and Noble and in stores I think, I mean,
I don't know how that works whether they're in every store,
but they should be in the stores, so but online
certainly Amazon's probably the best place.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But anywhere you can get books.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
All right, We tweeted out a link at moweg or
Fred I know you're doing a lot of these. I
appreciate you making time for us man. Thanks so much,
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I appreciate this.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Book was a lot of fun, freezing cold takes and
incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions.
This is the second version of this type of book.
He's done one for the NFL. I don't think there's
a sport that lends itself to more bad takes, and
I've had my fair share of him than college football.
He does include what people said leading up to and
(12:09):
you've got to be like U see die Hard. I
think to remember this nineteen ninety nine, they play Wisconsin
that was a bad U see team, and the week
before they played Troy and lost I think thirty one
to twenty four at Nippert Stadium. And what I remember
(12:30):
about that Saturday night is I went to that game
by myself, as engaged to my first wife, and she's like, nah,
we're not good. So the next week I go with
her and others to see him play Wisconsin and they
were enormous underdogs. Ron Dayan. You see that year when
three and eight Bearkats beat him seventeen to twelve. And
(12:51):
what I remember more than anything is the following week
they went to Ohio State and they actually led the
Buckeye seventeen to three before losing that game like thirty
one to one, or I wouldn't have been thirty one
to twenty one, thirty one to twenty or thirty one
to twenty four, something like that. But yeah, they lost
to Troy the week before in front of maybe a
thousand people. Came back they played Wisconsin. The stands were
(13:16):
filled with Wisconsin fans, which he really couldn't tell at
first glance because they wear red U see wins. Fans
storm the field. My buddy, the late great Rich Wahlberg
ran on the field with me. We get our hands
on the goalpost. Wisconsint guy gets in my face and
says something to the effect of, hey, remember last time
(13:36):
you guys graduated a basketball player. And I looked at
him and I said, well, let's talk during basketball season.
And that year Kenny Martin would break his leg and
Wisconsin would go to the Final Fours an eight seed.
So kara karma for me, I guess. But anyway, it
was fun to see that game included in this book
Freezing Cold Takes by Fred Sea. I love that site.
(13:59):
I love watching people get mad that their old takes
get reposted. If you're in, if you're in the opinion
game and you can't have a sensy humor when somebody
throws your bad opinion or proven wrong opinion back at you,
then get out of the opinion game. Nineteen after four,
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in the official home of the Cincinnati Bengal.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
TONI is going to be on the call as well.
Just it's not like he doesn't work here.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Moegor ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you so much for listening
speaking to Tony, He joins us in forty minutes, Latest
training camp update, Brendiman and Jones on Baseball, Wise, Money
Sports and maybe the largest and longest shadow in Cincinnati sports.
Now what it is? I will tell you in fifteen minutes.
(00:52):
It's a good classic sports talk radio ts right there.
One of my absolute favorite Twitter slash x feeds is
Freezing Cold Takes. And I don't know if this is
I don't know if this is good. I don't know
if this is bad. I don't know if this is
an indictment against me. I don't know if it's a
statement about, uh, how accurate I've been with predictions and takes.
(01:15):
I've never been. Freezing Cold Takes Old Takes Exposed. So
Fred Siegel has for years run this account which sort
of exposes, and I think does so in a playful way,
exposes bad takes, takes that ended up proven to be bad,
or inaccurate predictions or analysis that proved to be faulty.
(01:36):
And he's got a book and it's called Freezing Cold
Takes College Football. He's done a pro football one came
out a couple of years ago as well. It's an
incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions.
And our buddy Jeremy Round from Fox nineteen made the book.
So we're excited for him, excited for Fred. The book
came out yesterday. It is awesome to have you, Fred,
Thanks so much for doing this. How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Great, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm sure there are folks in my audience, although not
that many I would imagine, but I'm sure there are
some who don't know what Old Takes Exposed is what
Freezing Cold takes us so give me the thirty second encapsulation.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Okay, Well, on social media, I have an x and
Instagram and a bunch of other of the social media platforms.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I basically it's pretty simple.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I post predictions or proclamations made by mostly media members,
mostly about sports about that turned out to be completely wrong,
and as soon as we can determine that they were wrong,
I'll post it if it's something that's interesting enough.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Is college football the sport that like feeds your feed
the most?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, well, it's the.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Perfect sport for bad predictions, I.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Thought, But I don't know. It may be tied with
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Of what feeds the most, just because there's so many
discussions about the NFL, and there's so many people sending
me things about the NFL because it's the most popular sport,
but college football has the It's by far the gold
mine of cold takes in terms of the way it
structured and the way that people treat it. It's so
(03:19):
emotional about it in the fact that there's so many teams,
there's so many players, there's just so many games, and
there's just so many narratives that you could put on
any game. It's so easy to overreact anything.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You send me the book, and I joke with a
coworker of mine, I'm like, he could have probably done
two chapters just on Ryan Day and Ohio State from
nearly two years ago when they lost to Michigan and
there was a lot there. Is there anybody, any figure
in college football that has lent itself, lent him or
herself to more freezing cold takes than Ryan Day in
the aftermath of Michigan twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I mean maybe coaches, certain coaches when they're hired, there's
an overwhelming positivity about them. I would say, like Scott
Frost when he was hired by Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Everyone thought it.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Was going to be so good there and it just
fell on his face. But the Ryan Day thing, what
was interesting to me was how Ryan Day was just completely.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Written off and was treated like he was going to
be fired.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
After that Michigan loss was a really bad loss, but
he had won so many games. No other coach has
ever been considered to be fired for performance based reasons
for doing that good it's it was, and and the
fact that Ohio State had such a good team, they
had so many great players that to just assume that
(04:40):
they weren't going to do well in the playoff was
kind of faulty within itself.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I think there's some of us who you know, were
familiar with what you do on social media that thought
this was going to be a book that was sort
of limited to the social media age. What I liked
about this, heck, there's there's there's a blurb in there
from one of my all time favorite you see Bearcat
football games, which is when they beat ron Data and
Wisconsin in nineteen ninety nine. That's years before social media.
(05:07):
So what is your favorite sort of I don't know,
pre social media, maybe pre internet example of freezing cold
takes in college football.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, there's a few.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I mean, one of my favorites is is the Sugar
Bowl in ninety three, which was between Miami and Alabama,
and Alabama was number two and Miami was number one.
Back then, you didn't always have a national championship game
because there was a Rose Bowl. Everyone was contracted at
different bowls for different conferences. So it was a fact
(05:39):
the national championship game and Alabama was just created like
they were written off, and everybody thought Miami was going
to pulverize them, and that's what Miami had the dynasty
going on back then, and Alabama killed them.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
But the takes during that game was before it, which
is unbelievable, and I highlight that in the book.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
But those were my favorite types of things to research, uh,
looking back at the old newspapers and finding the old
ones from before the social media and sometimes even before
the internet, which was the case for that game. So
that was a great one. And uh, yeah, the Cincinnati one.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Was really good.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Uh, I don't I think Jimbo Fisher was the offensive
cordner for that year.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
He was, Yeah, and that was a terrible UC team.
They had lost to Troy the week before. Ron Daane
was going to destroy him and he had a big game.
He also had a huge fumble in the end zone.
I helped tear down the goalpost that day. So that
that game that we're seeing seeing a blurb about that
game wore my heart.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah yeah, I mean it was because they were I mean,
Wisconsin was probably favored by a Gazilion employee, yep. Uh
and uh yeah, so they I think.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
They had a quarterback in there that wasn't that good.
They switched quarterbacks after that game and then they won
the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Uh yeah, and the Bearcats I think won two two
or three games that year. Fred Siegel Freezing Cole takes
an incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions.
Who is your your favorite? Who owns your favorite account
that you you know is just going to be a
gold mine during the college football season for for takes,
the don't age Well, oh.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, I guess. Uh, cal heard Tim Brando.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
He's great with coaching hires and he always defended them.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
And uh, I.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Mean there's some new ones that have come up who've
wrote risen up in the past years. Uh, some of
those SEC guys, uh, SEC Mike maybe, but the Coward's
always there.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
And I would say probably Brando, that would be the
two of my favorites.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But there's some other ones too.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You know. And in going through the book, I knew
I would see a lot of like Clay Travis and
Aaron Torres, and you know, those guys are great like
college sports take artists. I wasn't expecting to see like
guys like Aaron Boone And obviously this is not I
think when Aaron Boon was managing the Yankee. But you
got a tweet from Aaron Boone about college football. Who
(08:14):
is like, whether it's college football or any other sport,
like somebody whose take you have used that like the
average person would think would have no connection to the
sport they're pining about, or even sports at all.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well, you sometimes it's politicians.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, out of nowhere, we'll say something about somebody.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I mean, even the president.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I mean back in the day, he has some good ones.
Johnny Manziel randomly saying that Johnny Manziel is going to.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Be great for the Browns in between whatever he posts
about was tweeting about at the time, like that type
of thing. But politicians probably, But Aaron Boone he was
he wasn't with the Yankees men.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah, during that he was with you again, right, doing baseball,
so he was posting about. Yeah, surprisingly enough, he was
posting about every game was being played, like whether it's
NFL or He was very active on Twitter at times.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's sometimes Alex Cora too.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
When he was really Yeah he was doing but I
don't know how much football, but he was acting very
active and very responsive.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
So yeah, sometimes that happened.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It could be an actor too, maybe, but I can't
think of.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Specifics, but yeah, so so obviously. And look, there's a
lot of sports talk hosts, a lot of columnists, a
lot of people with podcasts who have been the people
that have gotten because I think most folks when you
when you like, you know, you'll retweet something that they
have put out there. Usually it's you know, folks are
good sports about it. When you give opinions publicly, some
(09:49):
of them are going to be proven to be wrong,
and you highlight that and it's done, I think in
a fun way for the most part. Right, I don't know.
But who's gotten mad at you, who's not had a
sense of humor about it?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Well, I mean I can't. I can't even remember.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Back in the day there was a bunch of high,
high level people who got mad at me but then
realized about what you were talking about.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
But people do get uh. I'd say more of the
writers get mad at me.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
About in the uh in my d ms, you know
what I.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Mean, which I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I don't share my ideas, but some get really mad
to the point where I feel bad for them that
they get really mad, like it's gotta be something going
on in their life.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But I think you know, the writers like that.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
There's a certain accounts, are certain platforms, like the guys
from when when Dead Finn was around.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, this is like five years ago. I guess when
those guys did not like me all.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
And they used to really really really try to bug
me and and kind of very snarky about it.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
But uh, more of.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
The writers than anything, because they they feel like they're
working hard doing and and I'm coming in and just
getting a cheap shot ont of there.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And that's really kind of the way they feel.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, I've dealt with that a little bit myself. Fred
Siegel Freezing Cold Takes and Incomplete history of the game's
most inaccurate statements and predictions as as we wait for
the college football season to begin. If you love the
sport at all, I promise you you will love this book. Fred.
Where is the best place for people to get it?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You get Amazon? Any what place you get books? Really?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Amazon, Bars and Noble and in stores I think, I mean,
I don't know how that works whether they're in every store,
but they should be in the stores, so but online
certainly Amazon's probably the best place.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But anywhere you can get books.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
All right, We tweeted out a link at moweg or
Fred I know you're doing a lot of these. I
appreciate you making time for us man. Thanks so much,
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I appreciate this.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Book was a lot of fun, freezing cold takes and
incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements and predictions.
This is the second version of this type of book.
He's done one for the NFL. I don't think there's
a sport that lends itself to more bad takes, and
I've had my fair share of him than college football.
He does include what people said leading up to and
(12:09):
you've got to be like U see die Hard. I
think to remember this nineteen ninety nine, they play Wisconsin
that was a bad U see team, and the week
before they played Troy and lost I think thirty one
to twenty four at Nippert Stadium. And what I remember
(12:30):
about that Saturday night is I went to that game
by myself, as engaged to my first wife, and she's like, nah,
we're not good. So the next week I go with
her and others to see him play Wisconsin and they
were enormous underdogs. Ron Dayan. You see that year when
three and eight Bearkats beat him seventeen to twelve. And
(12:51):
what I remember more than anything is the following week
they went to Ohio State and they actually led the
Buckeye seventeen to three before losing that game like thirty
one to one, or I wouldn't have been thirty one
to twenty one, thirty one to twenty or thirty one
to twenty four, something like that. But yeah, they lost
to Troy the week before in front of maybe a
thousand people. Came back they played Wisconsin. The stands were
(13:16):
filled with Wisconsin fans, which he really couldn't tell at
first glance because they wear red U see wins. Fans
storm the field. My buddy, the late great Rich Wahlberg
ran on the field with me. We get our hands
on the goalpost. Wisconsint guy gets in my face and
says something to the effect of, hey, remember last time
(13:36):
you guys graduated a basketball player. And I looked at
him and I said, well, let's talk during basketball season.
And that year Kenny Martin would break his leg and
Wisconsin would go to the Final Fours an eight seed.
So kara karma for me, I guess. But anyway, it
was fun to see that game included in this book
Freezing Cold Takes by Fred Sea. I love that site.
(13:59):
I love watching people get mad that their old takes
get reposted. If you're in, if you're in the opinion
game and you can't have a sensy humor when somebody
throws your bad opinion or proven wrong opinion back at you,
then get out of the opinion game. Nineteen after four,
(14:19):
speaking of college football, the longest shadow in Cincinnati sports looms,
Plus the Bengals are worth how much money will do
Wise Money Sports with Brad Johnson, We've got to talk
about how Nick Krawl continues to not be able to
flip players in Tony Pike as well. Latest from Bengals
training camp. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
There is still an accident on southbound seventy five over
at Western Avenue. Traffic through that area stop and go
back from seventy four. Also eastbound two seventy five after
Mineola Pike in accident blocks the right lane and kemper road.
An accident at Hamilton Avenue. I'm at aaslic with traffic
from the UC Health traffic,
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