August 7, 2026 • 11 mins
Bengals Director of Player Personnel Duke Tobin joined Tony and Mo at Paycor Stadium.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We are broadcasting from a pay Corpse stadium the night
practice inside the State. Right now, the sun's on the
field covering the whole thing, so hopefully that remains the same.
They'll get under way tonight at six o'clock. It's awesome
to broadcast from the pay Corpse Stadium broadcast booth, the
home of Dan and Lapp. I will say this, my
favorite part of the preseason is on the TV side
(00:22):
when Duke Tobin sits in with Mike and Anthony, so
we get our own version of that this.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Is big time, this is big time.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, I said, no one ever, I just.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Did so, So there you go. Thank you for doing this.
It's awesome to have you. Uh. You know, we've been
down there at camp every day and you know, I
asked Tony every segment, tell me what you're seeing, give
me some insight. I'll ask you the same thing. What
things have stood out? What are some themes of this
came so far? In your opinion?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
You know, I see confidence in our guys, which is
one thing that I always look for, is early confidence
in what we're doing, how they're doing it, and belief
and in the group as a whole, and I see
that out there on both sides of the ball. I
see a lot of camaraderie. I see a lot of enthusiasm.
I see guys dialed in. I see guys really fighting
(01:14):
to sketch out roles.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
For them, which is important.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
You know, you want guys, you know, feeling like I
got to get going to get my role going.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
And and that shows in practice.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
You know, whether the ones are in there, the twos
are in there, or the threes are in there, you
can see a real attention to detail, and you know,
motivation out of it. It just kind of oozes. They
are all locked in and they all are believing in
what we're doing. So been able to sit in some
meetings and and it's it's been really great to see
(01:50):
there's a lot of confidence on our football team.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's an ever changing league, and I feel like now
more than ever, you've got to have multiple answers for
what teams want to do against You want both sides
of the ball. One of the things that has stood
out to me the most is a versatility. You know,
a guy like Kyle Duggart can get plugged in in
a very specific way. What Dexter Lawrence means for the
rest of the defense. It feels like on both sides
of the ball, there's a high level of versatility that
(02:16):
the coaching staff can utilize.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, and they're showing I mean they're throwing everything at them.
You know, we got almost all of our stuff. Yeah,
when my head spins when I sit in some meetings
about the volume that's there and then but the execution
of the volume has been so good, and it hasn't
been sloppy in any way. We haven't had a bunch
(02:38):
of fall starts, we haven't had a bunch of misalignments,
we haven't had a bunch of open gaps, we haven't
had a bunch of drop coverages.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
And so it's good with the volume we have in uh.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
That'll that'll play well over the season because you know,
we're not game planning right now. Sure, but when you
game plan, you you you skinny it down for the
opponent you're going to face. But right now we've got
so much volume and we're executing, which is really great
to see.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's been so fun to talk to players like Jonathan
Allen and Brian Cook, obviously a local guy, and my
favorite thing about the offseason was Dexter Lawrence. You trade
for him on Saturday, comes in for a physical on Sunday,
meets with the media on Monday, and then I think
everybody would have understood had he went home, takes care
of business instead. Give me some shorts, give me a
(03:26):
T shirt. It's day one of voluntary workouts. I'm going
And so what just feels like there's been a priority on.
Obviously you needed upgrades at certain positions. You wanted guys
who have won, But it just feels like you got
a lot of guys who are about the right things.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You got to get the guys about the right things.
They have to love ball, whether at they're at the
top of the league or just coming into the league,
they have to love ball.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
The great players love ball.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Now they're getting rewarded more than the lower players that
love ball, but they have to love ball if they
If they don't, they get complacent, and one guy can
turn into two guys can turn into ten guys that
get complacent. But right now, the leaders on this team
are anything but complacent, and they are leading the parade.
(04:14):
And when those guys are doing that, everyone else sees
it and does it. And so we got to go
out and do it. I mean it's early. We've still
we're still coming together as a team, figuring out who
we are on both sides of the ball. But you know,
so far, so good, it's looked good and it's coming together.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's one thing when you are adding players to a
roster at different levels free agency or trade or the draft,
to keep the messaging in the locker room the same.
And this is a very talented locker room individually. But
it feels like there's been a tone set from the
first day of training camp on that. It feels like
a different type of intensity, a different type of locked in.
(04:58):
And that's not always easy to accomplish when so many
new players are coming in.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You bring in the right guys and and and you
can accomplish that. It's it's all about finding the right guys.
This off season had a bunch of opportunity that came
our way. There are off seasons that the opportunity isn't
there and you can't force it. I mean, you can't
force if there. If it's not there, it's not there.
This this year, we had a lot of opportunity with
(05:24):
guys who were also looking at us, and there was
mutual interest and when free agency kicked off, we had that.
When Jonathan Allen was released, we had that mutual interest
in each other. When the Dexter thing came up, there
was there was mutual interest there, you know, when we
finally got to the point that we could visit with
(05:46):
them and uh, it just some off seasons offer this
and you have to take advantage when they do, and uh,
and this one it was just a unique off season
where there, you know it, there are ramifications to doing it,
but we made it happen because of the opportunity that
was in front of us, and that was the driving
(06:07):
force behind it. You know, you can't drop the opportunities
you know that are there. And we'll see how it
all comes together. But been really impressed with all the
new guys.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You expressed a lot of confidence in two linebackers who
last year were put in a tough situation. And Barrett
and Demetrius. We've sat there every day and at one
point we've remarked, boy, there's Demetrius in coverage. They're they're
sending Carter on a blitz there. It feels like those
two guys are getting it. I know we have a
long way to go.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yeah, there's a huge jump between year one and year two.
And when you bring two guys in and you throw
them right into the fire, you're gonna have some growing pains.
And those two guys are much more comfortable in what
we're doing. They're much more willing and able to direct.
You have to direct as a linebacker. You're in the
(06:57):
middle of the whole thing and you have to be
and if you're unsure, you can't direct. And as those
guys have progressed, they have really gained confidence in what
they're doing and now their ability can show and we're
hoping that that continues to progress all through the sole season.
(07:18):
I mean, those guys are talented guys. They are about football,
they want to be in the middle of it, and
they want to be main factors for us. So they're
about the right things.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's easy to see on offense, Joe and Jamar and
t and why everyone talks about that group. Chase Brown
runs for over one thousand last year, second on the
team in catches, third on the team and yards. I'm
watching day to day at practice. I don't think he
lines up in the same spot back to back snaps.
His versatility the way he trains in the offseason. He
just feels to me like a guy who can be
(07:49):
utilized in so many ways. There's available in pass protection
but ready to take another lead.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah, we've got a lot of volume in on both
sides of the ball, but on offense in particular. And uh,
that's the that's the thing you want out of your
coaching staff is you want them to design what the
players can do best. And if they can do six
things really well, you're you're going to take advantage of it.
And if they can do one thing, well, that's where
you're going to try to.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Make the make the hay. But you know, we've we
do have some versatile guys.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Our receiver group is pretty versatile too, of guys that
can go inside and win and guys that can play
outside and win. And so it's, uh, it can be
challenging for the coaching staff, but it's a fun challenge
because if you have enough people that you can move around,
you can keep people off balanced.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
We'll talk to players and coaches about what a day
of camp is like for them, practice meetings, meetings, walkthroughs,
more meetings. What's a day of camp and like for you?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I try to stay as active as I can with
what the football team is doing. So it's it's pretty
much the same for me. I I try to hit
the meetings that I can learn from and that I can,
uh you know, grow my knowledge of what.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We're doing again, because I want to.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I want to understand when I'm watching the film, I
want to know what the issue was.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And uh, you know, we're we're we're.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
We're supposed to bump the coverage where we're supposed to
drop in a different way where we're supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Uh you know who's got that gap? You know that?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
And and those type of things. Are we running the
wrong route here? Did somebody not get a check? You
can't pick that up. If you're just in a in
a silo watching tape by yourself, you can say, well
that doesn't look good, but you don't know why and
unless you take the time to to get to know why.
And uh so I try to I try to stay
active in what the team is doing.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Last thing I got. We've talked a lot about Kobe Young.
Yeah to Carreo Davis cash as how it feels like again,
we've talked a lot in the off season. Alan Boy Mafe,
Brian Cook, Dexter Lawrence. It feels like the group of
rookies that you guys have brought in and targeted, it
feels like they're not just guys that are looking to
(10:03):
make a roster and hang on, guys that can be
very impactful for this team this year.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
We need the young guys to come on, you know.
It just the way the NFL is now. You've got
to have your young guys come on and find roles
early in their career and then gain confidence and then
take bigger roles the second year, the third year. That's
what we want out of the young guys. We want
them to start progressing immediately. It used to be where
(10:27):
you could red shirt guys and it's just not the
way of the NFL anymore. You need those young guys
to find real roles for you and so if they're
doing that, if they can accomplish that as we go
through the preseason, that's a good thing for somebody that's
trying to put the whole roster together.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Awesome of you to come up. Yeah, we can't thank
you enough.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You bet guys, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Duke Tobin joining us here in the broadcast boothpay Corse Stadium,
seventeen away from five o'clock, Bull step away getting sept
for tonight's practice inside the stadium on ESPN fifteen thirty
Cincinnati Sport
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic mean you're
We are broadcasting from a pay Corpse stadium the night
practice inside the State. Right now, the sun's on the
field covering the whole thing, so hopefully that remains the same.
They'll get under way tonight at six o'clock. It's awesome
to broadcast from the pay Corpse Stadium broadcast booth, the
home of Dan and Lapp. I will say this, my
favorite part of the preseason is on the TV side
(00:22):
when Duke Tobin sits in with Mike and Anthony, so
we get our own version of that this.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Is big time, this is big time.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, I said, no one ever, I just.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Did so, So there you go. Thank you for doing this.
It's awesome to have you. Uh. You know, we've been
down there at camp every day and you know, I
asked Tony every segment, tell me what you're seeing, give
me some insight. I'll ask you the same thing. What
things have stood out? What are some themes of this
came so far? In your opinion?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
You know, I see confidence in our guys, which is
one thing that I always look for, is early confidence
in what we're doing, how they're doing it, and belief
and in the group as a whole, and I see
that out there on both sides of the ball. I
see a lot of camaraderie. I see a lot of enthusiasm.
I see guys dialed in. I see guys really fighting
(01:14):
to sketch out roles.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
For them, which is important.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
You know, you want guys, you know, feeling like I
got to get going to get my role going.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
And and that shows in practice.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
You know, whether the ones are in there, the twos
are in there, or the threes are in there, you
can see a real attention to detail, and you know,
motivation out of it. It just kind of oozes. They
are all locked in and they all are believing in
what we're doing. So been able to sit in some
meetings and and it's it's been really great to see
(01:50):
there's a lot of confidence on our football team.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's an ever changing league, and I feel like now
more than ever, you've got to have multiple answers for
what teams want to do against You want both sides
of the ball. One of the things that has stood
out to me the most is a versatility. You know,
a guy like Kyle Duggart can get plugged in in
a very specific way. What Dexter Lawrence means for the
rest of the defense. It feels like on both sides
of the ball, there's a high level of versatility that
(02:16):
the coaching staff can utilize.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, and they're showing I mean they're throwing everything at them.
You know, we got almost all of our stuff. Yeah,
when my head spins when I sit in some meetings
about the volume that's there and then but the execution
of the volume has been so good, and it hasn't
been sloppy in any way. We haven't had a bunch
(02:38):
of fall starts, we haven't had a bunch of misalignments,
we haven't had a bunch of open gaps, we haven't
had a bunch of drop coverages.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
And so it's good with the volume we have in uh.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
That'll that'll play well over the season because you know,
we're not game planning right now. Sure, but when you
game plan, you you you skinny it down for the
opponent you're going to face. But right now we've got
so much volume and we're executing, which is really great
to see.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's been so fun to talk to players like Jonathan
Allen and Brian Cook, obviously a local guy, and my
favorite thing about the offseason was Dexter Lawrence. You trade
for him on Saturday, comes in for a physical on Sunday,
meets with the media on Monday, and then I think
everybody would have understood had he went home, takes care
of business instead. Give me some shorts, give me a
(03:26):
T shirt. It's day one of voluntary workouts. I'm going
And so what just feels like there's been a priority on.
Obviously you needed upgrades at certain positions. You wanted guys
who have won, But it just feels like you got
a lot of guys who are about the right things.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You got to get the guys about the right things.
They have to love ball, whether at they're at the
top of the league or just coming into the league,
they have to love ball.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
The great players love ball.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Now they're getting rewarded more than the lower players that
love ball, but they have to love ball if they
If they don't, they get complacent, and one guy can
turn into two guys can turn into ten guys that
get complacent. But right now, the leaders on this team
are anything but complacent, and they are leading the parade.
(04:14):
And when those guys are doing that, everyone else sees
it and does it. And so we got to go
out and do it. I mean it's early. We've still
we're still coming together as a team, figuring out who
we are on both sides of the ball. But you know,
so far, so good, it's looked good and it's coming together.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's one thing when you are adding players to a
roster at different levels free agency or trade or the draft,
to keep the messaging in the locker room the same.
And this is a very talented locker room individually. But
it feels like there's been a tone set from the
first day of training camp on that. It feels like
a different type of intensity, a different type of locked in.
(04:58):
And that's not always easy to accomplish when so many
new players are coming in.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You bring in the right guys and and and you
can accomplish that. It's it's all about finding the right guys.
This off season had a bunch of opportunity that came
our way. There are off seasons that the opportunity isn't
there and you can't force it. I mean, you can't
force if there. If it's not there, it's not there.
This this year, we had a lot of opportunity with
(05:24):
guys who were also looking at us, and there was
mutual interest and when free agency kicked off, we had that.
When Jonathan Allen was released, we had that mutual interest
in each other. When the Dexter thing came up, there
was there was mutual interest there, you know, when we
finally got to the point that we could visit with
(05:46):
them and uh, it just some off seasons offer this
and you have to take advantage when they do, and uh,
and this one it was just a unique off season
where there, you know it, there are ramifications to doing it,
but we made it happen because of the opportunity that
was in front of us, and that was the driving
(06:07):
force behind it. You know, you can't drop the opportunities
you know that are there. And we'll see how it
all comes together. But been really impressed with all the
new guys.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You expressed a lot of confidence in two linebackers who
last year were put in a tough situation. And Barrett
and Demetrius. We've sat there every day and at one
point we've remarked, boy, there's Demetrius in coverage. They're they're
sending Carter on a blitz there. It feels like those
two guys are getting it. I know we have a
long way to go.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yeah, there's a huge jump between year one and year two.
And when you bring two guys in and you throw
them right into the fire, you're gonna have some growing pains.
And those two guys are much more comfortable in what
we're doing. They're much more willing and able to direct.
You have to direct as a linebacker. You're in the
(06:57):
middle of the whole thing and you have to be
and if you're unsure, you can't direct. And as those
guys have progressed, they have really gained confidence in what
they're doing and now their ability can show and we're
hoping that that continues to progress all through the sole season.
(07:18):
I mean, those guys are talented guys. They are about football,
they want to be in the middle of it, and
they want to be main factors for us. So they're
about the right things.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's easy to see on offense, Joe and Jamar and
t and why everyone talks about that group. Chase Brown
runs for over one thousand last year, second on the
team in catches, third on the team and yards. I'm
watching day to day at practice. I don't think he
lines up in the same spot back to back snaps.
His versatility the way he trains in the offseason. He
just feels to me like a guy who can be
(07:49):
utilized in so many ways. There's available in pass protection
but ready to take another lead.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah, we've got a lot of volume in on both
sides of the ball, but on offense in particular. And uh,
that's the that's the thing you want out of your
coaching staff is you want them to design what the
players can do best. And if they can do six
things really well, you're you're going to take advantage of it.
And if they can do one thing, well, that's where
you're going to try to.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Make the make the hay. But you know, we've we
do have some versatile guys.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Our receiver group is pretty versatile too, of guys that
can go inside and win and guys that can play
outside and win. And so it's, uh, it can be
challenging for the coaching staff, but it's a fun challenge
because if you have enough people that you can move around,
you can keep people off balanced.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
We'll talk to players and coaches about what a day
of camp is like for them, practice meetings, meetings, walkthroughs,
more meetings. What's a day of camp and like for you?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I try to stay as active as I can with
what the football team is doing. So it's it's pretty
much the same for me. I I try to hit
the meetings that I can learn from and that I can,
uh you know, grow my knowledge of what.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We're doing again, because I want to.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I want to understand when I'm watching the film, I
want to know what the issue was.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And uh, you know, we're we're we're.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
We're supposed to bump the coverage where we're supposed to
drop in a different way where we're supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Uh you know who's got that gap? You know that?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
And and those type of things. Are we running the
wrong route here? Did somebody not get a check? You
can't pick that up. If you're just in a in
a silo watching tape by yourself, you can say, well
that doesn't look good, but you don't know why and
unless you take the time to to get to know why.
And uh so I try to I try to stay
active in what the team is doing.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Last thing I got. We've talked a lot about Kobe Young.
Yeah to Carreo Davis cash as how it feels like again,
we've talked a lot in the off season. Alan Boy Mafe,
Brian Cook, Dexter Lawrence. It feels like the group of
rookies that you guys have brought in and targeted, it
feels like they're not just guys that are looking to
(10:03):
make a roster and hang on, guys that can be
very impactful for this team this year.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
We need the young guys to come on, you know.
It just the way the NFL is now. You've got
to have your young guys come on and find roles
early in their career and then gain confidence and then
take bigger roles the second year, the third year. That's
what we want out of the young guys. We want
them to start progressing immediately. It used to be where
(10:27):
you could red shirt guys and it's just not the
way of the NFL anymore. You need those young guys
to find real roles for you and so if they're
doing that, if they can accomplish that as we go
through the preseason, that's a good thing for somebody that's
trying to put the whole roster together.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Awesome of you to come up. Yeah, we can't thank
you enough.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You bet guys, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Duke Tobin joining us here in the broadcast boothpay Corse Stadium,
seventeen away from five o'clock, Bull step away getting sept
for tonight's practice inside the stadium on ESPN fifteen thirty
Cincinnati Sport
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic mean you're
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