August 10, 2026 • 19 mins
Scott Thompson and Jesy Herron have produced a documentary titled "Cradle of Coaches," which does a very deep dive into the illustrious history of iconic football coaches who have Miami University roots.
It will premiere later this month on Peacock.
Scott and Jesy joined us in studio on ESPN1530.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We previewed this right around this time last year, and
it's going to debut on Peacock on the seventeenth of August,
about a week and a half away, so I've I've
held on to my Peacock subscription for good reason. Cradle
of Coaches the highly anticipated documentary which uh is going
(00:20):
to sort of weave you through the legendary coaches involved
with the Miami University football program, and instead of me
talking about it, we got the people who made the documentary.
The previews, the teasers we have seen have looked unbelievable
and I cannot wait to watch this. Jesse Heron is
with us, and also Scott Thompson.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh wow, what a cliff, I hear man.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I was going to make you feel like you came
here for nothing.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Wow. I really feel welcome, I really do. This is
a really a special guy.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
We roll out the red carpet for people. Congratulations on this.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Yeah, should be site.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah. When you guys came up, I think it was
September last year, last year. I'm sure it has been
and so like it wasn't yet finished, but what you
had released certainly looked finished. So from then to now,
what sort of stuff. Have you guys done.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
You know what, our team at Resolve has just been amazing.
I just want to say, you know, Cooper would Molly Henderson,
those are two fantastic, young, amazingly talented people, Molly being
the colorist and Cooper just kind of being the tool
(01:37):
that you need in your toolkit for everything, along with
our editor Jamie. You know, they've just been working their
butts off, right, That's what we've been doing.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Do you want to say how to anybody else?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Your mom and dad dog at home shout out.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Called out. I mean they there were some eighteen hour days.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Right, So yeah, we were.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
We started posting it, we started editing beginning of January.
We've been editing that since then. But then you know,
we're editing and then John Harbuck gets fired. Oh crap,
we have to go to New York. Now, we have
to go here. Now, we have to do these things.
So it's been you know, ever since we talked to you.
We picked up some more interviews, but then there's you know,
(02:21):
there's been a handful of those kind of things. There
was a guy that was named Joe Bowen. He was
he was a coach of Buffalo the University of Buffalo.
What's a pit So then we had to go back
over to pitt to get him. So it's just a
lot of pick up things, you know, I mean the
NFL geez and and then you know, you're look at
all these coaches that we interviewed in the last two years,
half of them, you know, I'll be you know, we
went to Washington Commanders and interviewed Bobby Johnson. Well, now
(02:43):
he's with the Browns because all those coaches moved so much.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
So it happened, but we really had to go back
and get coach Harbaugh. I mean, there was no doubt
about it. As soon as that happened. We called his
right hand woman, Megan Rosberg, and basically didn't even give
her an option, and she but she agreed. She agreed agree,
which is cool.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Because you know, a football coach is always busy. A
football coach moving to New York and taking a new job,
I can't imagine all the different responsibilities and all the
different things that are on his plate. So for him
to be able to carve out some time for you,
I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah, I mean, any of these coaches to be able
to carve out time for us, but they all wanted
to carve out the time. They you know, Miami University
is sort of this access point where they all all
have this love, love and honor. Right, they have this
love and they have this honor for the university, and
so they wanted to make sure that we could get
that extra interview. So I went in with the second
interview we did with John Harbaugh and just kind of
(03:36):
be like, hey, coach, we only have sixty minutes with you.
But he was like, Jesse, stop, you have as much
time as you need with me. Let's just make sure
we do this right. So that's the kind of treatment
we would get.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Go back to the beginning, because I'm sure there are
folks listening to this who are going, Okay, what specifically are.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
They talking about?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Absolutely, so it's it's the Cradle of Coaches documentary. One
hundred and fifty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Oh, could you were.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Probably a little bit longer. We're looking at like a
two hour long documentary.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes, one hundred and fifty five minutes is two hours
and thirty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
That's what the Thing of Peacock says.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I'm not going to as much.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Sorry, did you have made it longer because we've done.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
To argue that means right, I know, you're right.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
It's a two hour it's a two hour documentary. Sorry
for any of the math teachers that all right, gearing up,
I mean, but it's a two hour dommentary.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Kid from Kentucky, one and fifty five minutes.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
No, I love you. I'm sorry, you're right, you're right.
I'll be right on this.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You're thinking, like you know, let's make it as long
as the Godfather, Like hell.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
They could have made it longer. There could be right,
you know, there could be more. Directors cut, directors cut.
Here's the thing. Here's the thing about the Cradle of Coaches.
For those of you who don't know about the Creatile
of Coaches. It is about these ten statues outside of
Yager Stadium, which is Miami University's football stadium. And the
story really does a great job of weaving in all
(04:57):
of those statues and giving their stories. And when we
talked in September of last year, I'm going to tell
you right now this was not on my bingo card.
I know nothing about football, and now I can tell
you what the lonely end is. I can tell you
about the three platoon system, you know, based out of policy.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
We're about this lonely end. Yeah, she doesn't really.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, the three platoons, sistem. I can tell you about that.
The nineteen fifty eight you know, LSU Tiger football team. Yeah,
the go team, the white team. Sure, I don't want
to talk about the other one. But yeah, I mean,
you know, it's crazy, it's a crazy story. But I
think that's the important thing to say is that people
who aren't necessarily football fans, I think they can fall
in love with this documentary. If you're not a Miami
(05:37):
University fan, you can still fall in love with this documentary.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And I think it's just cool the not just the
number of people you talk to. But I think there's
a lot of folks that if I was thinking about
this project, I would say, well, you're never going to
be able to get that person.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
And you got them all? Yeah, I would imagine you
got them all. You at least got enough.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
The old man.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I don't know if we didn't get I mean, Lou
Holst was a great, a great grab for us. Yeah,
and then you know, and also you know, and then
we got Bob Trump, he too before he passed and Trump.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
He was great.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And then for me he was you know, well you're
a lot older than I am, but you know, you know,
hearing Trumpy walking, I had never actually worked with him.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Hearing that voice.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Walk in the room was like, just so it is
the voice of God. It really, it really is.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
He was amazing, Lou Holts.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I mean all that, you know, all that we got
literally got all the big hitters really did.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Roethlisberger was so gracious walking Billboard from Miami. It was awesome,
you know. And Roethlisberger's like, oh yeah, just here's my
gate code. Just help yourselves again and get in. Don't
big deal to take my kid to school. Just do
your thing.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
After we met him, he was like pretty much like sure.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Because we walked in.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It wasn't like we were working for a network trying
to get a story about that week's football game. You know,
they're so used to that, they're so used to kind
of getting pushed around in the facility or whatever. But
when they're at their house and then we say Miami University.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Doors open, we're talking about their favorite coaches, or we're
talking about their favorite place that they spent four years
in college, right, I mean, so that's kind of the
really cool thing.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah. Yeah, people love to talk about their ALBA baters.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And I mean like and just you know, you interview
NFL players or basketball players invariably when you bring up
We did this the other day at Bengals training camp
with Jordan Battle, who played at Alabama, and it's like,
you know, the weather is nice, and you guys have
like rules about how much you can hit, go to
tuscal loose.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Let's talk about Nick say May.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
He just started talking about Alabama and the school and
games he was in. Like, people love talking about where
they went to college.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And I alluded that to on the event at pay Corps.
How I don't have that love for my university, like
like the people for the Miami do. And because I
had a fractured I mean I went to different I
went to different universities. I didn't I didn't spend four
years at are traditional college pretty much.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
But I'm jealous. I'm jealous of that. I don't have that.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And they in this room was filled with Miami people
that did the four years and loved Oxford and go
back all the time, and they absolutely love it.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And there has to be some at least small ancillary
benefit to what the basketball team this year, because it
was cool. I mean I went to a game at
Mallett Hall and I'm like, man, I've been to games
up here and a lot of folks here. But the
campus community was energized, and then the alumni chapters were energized,
and not just here but around the country, and so
all right, now there may be a little bit more
engaged with Miami, and this just it could not have
(08:20):
hurt this documentary.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
The timing of this documentary could not have been better,
hands down, agree with you, because yeah, I mean when
they went thirty one and oh and then they became
a little bit of America's team, right, they kept being
called Miami of America, and now we have this documentary
coming out this August. I mean, really, the timing couldn't
have been better.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
We went to New York and we actually interviewed Wally,
and Wally was great. I mean, say, once again, another
walking billboard from Miami. It was it was right in
the thick of it too, and he was awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I liked when when Charlie Coles passed, we sent him
a DM on Twitter and he came on that day.
He was like, I'll always talk about Charlie Coles, I
always talk about Miami.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It was I mean, it was just awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Like the one guy you want to hear from about
Charlie Coles nothing against anybody else is Wally Serbia and
he was extraordinarily gracious, so fan for life.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Well, and here's the other thing I think that gets
lost in some of the conversations that we have is
that there's this brotherhood or this network I'll just say,
even more generally with Miami University that you get the
sense of. I mean, you've got Joe Conniglio, Sean McVay,
and Krishula who all live together, learned together, walk the
(09:29):
same cross slant walks at Miami University together, and now
they're coaching together. And one of the cool things was
at the event that we had at paid Corps on
Tuesday night, that was something I got to ask of
I'm going to say Coach Tressell, but Lieutenant Governor Trussell, right,
you know, like, how do you how do you as
a coach, you know at the highest level, how do
you then go to find other coaches that you trust
(09:51):
and that you you know think are going to still,
you know, not not compete against you, but challenge you
to make sure that you're making these right decisions. And
I think it was a really great conversation, but they
still continue to choose each other. I mean, you see
it across the entire NFL and across college.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Where we gotta get a break yet. Where can folks
find out more about the doc and see the teasers
and all that stuff?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
You know what, you can just really Google search Cradle
of Coaches documentary and you can even type in resolve
r E SLV okay. Type in those two things together.
You'll find a palathora of information.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
All right, Hank Tight, We have more to get to
Jesse Harron, Scott Thompson, Cradle of Coaches, Tony Pike in
about twenty five minutes, latest training camp update, and we'll
hear from Andrew Abbott to a lot to get to
between now and six on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
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Anything you may have missed on this show, you can
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and Mode training Camp show, and we got a chance
to talk to Jonathan Allen.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
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rich Wood, Jesse Herron, and Scott Thompson are here, the
folks who created Cradle of Coaches, the documentary about football
coaches at Miami Universe. And now let's talk about how
folks can watch this. When will it premiere? Where will
it premiere? And have we determined exactly how many minutes
it is?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Okay, so I did my math on this. It's actually
an hour in fifty nine minutes. Okay, you're gonna want
to watch all the way through the credits, Okay, because
it's actually kind of a.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Fun special surprise at the end, national.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Surprises at the end. Yes, you may hear someone singing,
all right, yeah, yeah, someone who we all love and know, coach.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
But you will find this documentary on Peacock this August. Okay, Yes,
it's super exciting.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
How do you land a documentary that is and this
this is the wrong term. You could tell me locally
produced on a national platform like Peacock carries NFL playoff games,
right to carry NBA playoff games. Yeah, and now this
film is going to be on Peacock.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Yeah, and you're you're saying this local company. Yeah, no,
and actually just on that real quick. Yeah, we're so
proud of our like local, you know, the ability to
say local, because our crew was local too. So we
traveled coast to coast. Really, we went through twenty five cities.
We did about eighty interviews, each one at least an
hour some longer. Sean McVay was about ninety minutes. Gosh,
(12:54):
Jack Carball was like two hours long, under twenty minutes.
By the way, I know what.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Else was doing in this and we're I'll say it
right here, no one else in town is doing this
because in order to people do documentaries in town, and
that has been done, and even the last two years
there's been stuff that's come out, either sports wise or not,
but they're not getting on major streaming networks. And it
was you know, the doors were open through Miami University. Also,
we went out to New York multiple times and talked
(13:20):
to NBC Sports and talked to Peacock and pitched this
and we also pitched it on the We went to
the other coast and pitched it to Netflix.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
When we pitched at the ESPN, that was part of
what we were doing.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Well.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
At the end of the day, we're actually a marketing company,
so very early on this is something that I'm really
proud of coming me being the one that has a
really strong marketing background. Is that we put together pitch materials.
I mean, we went to the Real Screen Summit. We
pitched this to not the right audience, but the Oprah
Winfrey Network. It was just let's just get some experience.
(13:50):
I mean, hey, they liked they liked it. They're like, well,
this is kind of cool, you know, not really for
our audience.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But what is on the Oprah Winfree Network.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Not the coaches reruns of Oprah don't she doesn't do
a television show anymore.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, okay, I didn't even know such a thing existed.
So I'm glad to put it. Yeah, sit down with Steedman.
And she was still with that guy I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, Well if he's smart, yes, okay.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Here the deal. So we actually had pitch materials. We
had pitch materials that we then took to NBC and
Peacock and gave to you know, the contact that we had,
and he called me within I mean days and said, yes,
let's do this.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Because I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I know, and I've interviewed people who have made films
and they look awesome, and I'll say, well, where can
folks see it? And it's like, well, we're come over
to my house and we're going to have people over.
You could watch it in my basement. Well this is real,
and that sounds sounds nice. I don't know if I'm
gonna make it so, like I I've always wondered, And
when you guys started this, I'm like, this sounds amazing.
It deserves to be shown on a large platform, and
(14:52):
that's going to happen.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Well, we are a relentless force. I will say that,
and you can watch it in your own basement on Peacock.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
That's what I'll do.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, And now that it's I know it's not one
hundred and fifty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
It'll take one night. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Right, But what it was one hundred and fifty five
we were talking breaks, We got a pee your popcorn.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Don't worry, I got to go to bed. Yeah, come
back the next day.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'm impatient when it comes. Like I love movies, but
I always look at run time first, and I think.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You're gonna love this. I love Here's what somebody actually
said to me. They said it kind of reminded them
a little bit of the Banded Brothers because you have
this nice mix of like historical information and you hear
from some of the amusing quotation marks the old guys, right,
but then you have John Harbaugh and Sean McVay and
a lot of the newer guys that kind of are
interwoven throughout the whole documentary. So it will keep your attention.
(15:48):
And there's amazing stories.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You know what I like about this In this era
of college sports, where we were talking about a lot
of things that confuse people that folks don't like. This
is the antithesis of that, and my take people back
to an age that they perhaps yearn for.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
That's with Dennis Crawford, who was on our panel at
pay Court the other night and.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
He's in the documentary. He's the historian out of the
National College Hall of Fame at Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
He said, he goes.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
He said the same thing you say, kind of HARKing
back the time when coaching really meant something. Where I
think they think of coaching now is like it's more
of a general manager. Yeah, like you know, you're only
getting kids for one year maybe, and do you really
make a difference in that kid's life?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I hope. Yeah, it's harder, it's more difficult.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, it's more about the relationships, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Make a difference.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
And also like you know, you're more likely to kind
of have a lifelong relationship with somebody you were with
for four years than one.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
You're absolutely right. Yeah, And that goes from the you know,
even the professional level, right. I mean you have a
guy like Aaron Donald, who you know, he has this
amazing love for Sean McVay also fingers crossed that bad
he comes back to the rams.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
With him, like Aaron Donald beat the Bengals in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
You know that.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
When I met him, I said that, I said, my
son told me I couldn't like you, and he was
like ah, and he gave me a giant bear hug.
And then he was like, you want to see my
Super Bowl ring?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
No I don't. Actually, yeah, that's good. I'd love to
see it.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Because we flew the crew out to l A was like,
you know, screw this guy. Yes, but when they but
when when the crew met Kenny Anderson for the first time?
Oh yeah, I mean you know.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Kenny, Kenny the best, He's the best best. Yeah. Literally.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So there was a guy in our crew. His name
is Troy Blome. He's our director of photography. He's been
doing this for thirty years. And you know, and you
know this as well. You don't ask for autographs. No, no,
it's just not it's not kuth. You just don't do that.
And this was Troy's. Kenny Anderson was Troy's first autograph
and thirty some years of working because he just thought,
I mean, everybody loves Kenny, yes, and you're a Bengals fan,
(17:48):
you know, I.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Mean, so Kenny had some really great stories.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Oh Ken was the best. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, all right, Cradle of Coaches, Peacock. Do we know
the premiere Daters? That's still a little up in the air.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
It is all guess it is this August.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Okay, I'm going to say this in the next twenty
five days.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
No, I promise I will call you. I've got your number.
I'll call you, please do Okay, it will if I
allowed to call you.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
What about just life in general? We just catch up.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
There is absolutely nothing that I can pass on to
you about life that you would find remotely useful.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
That's a great I call you. I still have a
Peacock subscription.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Keep it for this month at least, and probably longer
because you're going to want to watch it again.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oh yeah, just one of those things that you just
put on again and again and again and again. Bailey, Dailey,
just one minutes.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
No, no, well, thank you for having us on.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I'm glad you clarified it because I saw something today
that said one fifty whoa like, what could it have been?
Speaker 5 (18:48):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I congratulations. I know how hard you guys have worked,
and uh, I know what a laborer love this is
and I know how excited the Miami community is, and
so I mean, honestly.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Congrats, like this is It's huge, right.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The undertaking that this was, to have the results of it,
you know, ready to go for the country to see
is is awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Thank you, Thank you, Jesse Herron, Scott Thompson.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Cradle of Coaches coming out on Peacock at some point
in the next three and a half weeks. Sports headlines
are next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station
We previewed this right around this time last year, and
it's going to debut on Peacock on the seventeenth of August,
about a week and a half away, so I've I've
held on to my Peacock subscription for good reason. Cradle
of Coaches the highly anticipated documentary which uh is going
(00:20):
to sort of weave you through the legendary coaches involved
with the Miami University football program, and instead of me
talking about it, we got the people who made the documentary.
The previews, the teasers we have seen have looked unbelievable
and I cannot wait to watch this. Jesse Heron is
with us, and also Scott Thompson.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh wow, what a cliff, I hear man.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I was going to make you feel like you came
here for nothing.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Wow. I really feel welcome, I really do. This is
a really a special guy.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
We roll out the red carpet for people. Congratulations on this.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Yeah, should be site.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah. When you guys came up, I think it was
September last year, last year. I'm sure it has been
and so like it wasn't yet finished, but what you
had released certainly looked finished. So from then to now,
what sort of stuff. Have you guys done.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
You know what, our team at Resolve has just been amazing.
I just want to say, you know, Cooper would Molly Henderson,
those are two fantastic, young, amazingly talented people, Molly being
the colorist and Cooper just kind of being the tool
(01:37):
that you need in your toolkit for everything, along with
our editor Jamie. You know, they've just been working their
butts off, right, That's what we've been doing.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Do you want to say how to anybody else?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Your mom and dad dog at home shout out.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Called out. I mean they there were some eighteen hour days.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Right, So yeah, we were.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
We started posting it, we started editing beginning of January.
We've been editing that since then. But then you know,
we're editing and then John Harbuck gets fired. Oh crap,
we have to go to New York. Now, we have
to go here. Now, we have to do these things.
So it's been you know, ever since we talked to you.
We picked up some more interviews, but then there's you know,
(02:21):
there's been a handful of those kind of things. There
was a guy that was named Joe Bowen. He was
he was a coach of Buffalo the University of Buffalo.
What's a pit So then we had to go back
over to pitt to get him. So it's just a
lot of pick up things, you know, I mean the
NFL geez and and then you know, you're look at
all these coaches that we interviewed in the last two years,
half of them, you know, I'll be you know, we
went to Washington Commanders and interviewed Bobby Johnson. Well, now
(02:43):
he's with the Browns because all those coaches moved so much.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
So it happened, but we really had to go back
and get coach Harbaugh. I mean, there was no doubt
about it. As soon as that happened. We called his
right hand woman, Megan Rosberg, and basically didn't even give
her an option, and she but she agreed. She agreed agree,
which is cool.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Because you know, a football coach is always busy. A
football coach moving to New York and taking a new job,
I can't imagine all the different responsibilities and all the
different things that are on his plate. So for him
to be able to carve out some time for you,
I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah, I mean, any of these coaches to be able
to carve out time for us, but they all wanted
to carve out the time. They you know, Miami University
is sort of this access point where they all all
have this love, love and honor. Right, they have this
love and they have this honor for the university, and
so they wanted to make sure that we could get
that extra interview. So I went in with the second
interview we did with John Harbaugh and just kind of
(03:36):
be like, hey, coach, we only have sixty minutes with you.
But he was like, Jesse, stop, you have as much
time as you need with me. Let's just make sure
we do this right. So that's the kind of treatment
we would get.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Go back to the beginning, because I'm sure there are
folks listening to this who are going, Okay, what specifically are.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
They talking about?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Absolutely, so it's it's the Cradle of Coaches documentary. One
hundred and fifty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Oh, could you were.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Probably a little bit longer. We're looking at like a
two hour long documentary.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes, one hundred and fifty five minutes is two hours
and thirty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
That's what the Thing of Peacock says.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I'm not going to as much.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Sorry, did you have made it longer because we've done.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
To argue that means right, I know, you're right.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
It's a two hour it's a two hour documentary. Sorry
for any of the math teachers that all right, gearing up,
I mean, but it's a two hour dommentary.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Kid from Kentucky, one and fifty five minutes.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
No, I love you. I'm sorry, you're right, you're right.
I'll be right on this.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You're thinking, like you know, let's make it as long
as the Godfather, Like hell.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
They could have made it longer. There could be right,
you know, there could be more. Directors cut, directors cut.
Here's the thing. Here's the thing about the Cradle of Coaches.
For those of you who don't know about the Creatile
of Coaches. It is about these ten statues outside of
Yager Stadium, which is Miami University's football stadium. And the
story really does a great job of weaving in all
(04:57):
of those statues and giving their stories. And when we
talked in September of last year, I'm going to tell
you right now this was not on my bingo card.
I know nothing about football, and now I can tell
you what the lonely end is. I can tell you
about the three platoon system, you know, based out of policy.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
We're about this lonely end. Yeah, she doesn't really.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, the three platoons, sistem. I can tell you about that.
The nineteen fifty eight you know, LSU Tiger football team. Yeah,
the go team, the white team. Sure, I don't want
to talk about the other one. But yeah, I mean,
you know, it's crazy, it's a crazy story. But I
think that's the important thing to say is that people
who aren't necessarily football fans, I think they can fall
in love with this documentary. If you're not a Miami
(05:37):
University fan, you can still fall in love with this documentary.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And I think it's just cool the not just the
number of people you talk to. But I think there's
a lot of folks that if I was thinking about
this project, I would say, well, you're never going to
be able to get that person.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
And you got them all? Yeah, I would imagine you
got them all. You at least got enough.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
The old man.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I don't know if we didn't get I mean, Lou
Holst was a great, a great grab for us. Yeah,
and then you know, and also you know, and then
we got Bob Trump, he too before he passed and Trump.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
He was great.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And then for me he was you know, well you're
a lot older than I am, but you know, you know,
hearing Trumpy walking, I had never actually worked with him.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Hearing that voice.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Walk in the room was like, just so it is
the voice of God. It really, it really is.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
He was amazing, Lou Holts.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I mean all that, you know, all that we got
literally got all the big hitters really did.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Roethlisberger was so gracious walking Billboard from Miami. It was awesome,
you know. And Roethlisberger's like, oh yeah, just here's my
gate code. Just help yourselves again and get in. Don't
big deal to take my kid to school. Just do
your thing.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
After we met him, he was like pretty much like sure.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Because we walked in.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It wasn't like we were working for a network trying
to get a story about that week's football game. You know,
they're so used to that, they're so used to kind
of getting pushed around in the facility or whatever. But
when they're at their house and then we say Miami University.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Doors open, we're talking about their favorite coaches, or we're
talking about their favorite place that they spent four years
in college, right, I mean, so that's kind of the
really cool thing.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah. Yeah, people love to talk about their ALBA baters.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And I mean like and just you know, you interview
NFL players or basketball players invariably when you bring up
We did this the other day at Bengals training camp
with Jordan Battle, who played at Alabama, and it's like,
you know, the weather is nice, and you guys have
like rules about how much you can hit, go to
tuscal loose.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Let's talk about Nick say May.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
He just started talking about Alabama and the school and
games he was in. Like, people love talking about where
they went to college.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And I alluded that to on the event at pay Corps.
How I don't have that love for my university, like
like the people for the Miami do. And because I
had a fractured I mean I went to different I
went to different universities. I didn't I didn't spend four
years at are traditional college pretty much.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
But I'm jealous. I'm jealous of that. I don't have that.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And they in this room was filled with Miami people
that did the four years and loved Oxford and go
back all the time, and they absolutely love it.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And there has to be some at least small ancillary
benefit to what the basketball team this year, because it
was cool. I mean I went to a game at
Mallett Hall and I'm like, man, I've been to games
up here and a lot of folks here. But the
campus community was energized, and then the alumni chapters were energized,
and not just here but around the country, and so
all right, now there may be a little bit more
engaged with Miami, and this just it could not have
(08:20):
hurt this documentary.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
The timing of this documentary could not have been better,
hands down, agree with you, because yeah, I mean when
they went thirty one and oh and then they became
a little bit of America's team, right, they kept being
called Miami of America, and now we have this documentary
coming out this August. I mean, really, the timing couldn't
have been better.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
We went to New York and we actually interviewed Wally,
and Wally was great. I mean, say, once again, another
walking billboard from Miami. It was it was right in
the thick of it too, and he was awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I liked when when Charlie Coles passed, we sent him
a DM on Twitter and he came on that day.
He was like, I'll always talk about Charlie Coles, I
always talk about Miami.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It was I mean, it was just awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Like the one guy you want to hear from about
Charlie Coles nothing against anybody else is Wally Serbia and
he was extraordinarily gracious, so fan for life.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Well, and here's the other thing I think that gets
lost in some of the conversations that we have is
that there's this brotherhood or this network I'll just say,
even more generally with Miami University that you get the
sense of. I mean, you've got Joe Conniglio, Sean McVay,
and Krishula who all live together, learned together, walk the
(09:29):
same cross slant walks at Miami University together, and now
they're coaching together. And one of the cool things was
at the event that we had at paid Corps on
Tuesday night, that was something I got to ask of
I'm going to say Coach Tressell, but Lieutenant Governor Trussell, right,
you know, like, how do you how do you as
a coach, you know at the highest level, how do
you then go to find other coaches that you trust
(09:51):
and that you you know think are going to still,
you know, not not compete against you, but challenge you
to make sure that you're making these right decisions. And
I think it was a really great conversation, but they
still continue to choose each other. I mean, you see
it across the entire NFL and across college.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Where we gotta get a break yet. Where can folks
find out more about the doc and see the teasers
and all that stuff?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
You know what, you can just really Google search Cradle
of Coaches documentary and you can even type in resolve
r E SLV okay. Type in those two things together.
You'll find a palathora of information.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
All right, Hank Tight, We have more to get to
Jesse Harron, Scott Thompson, Cradle of Coaches, Tony Pike in
about twenty five minutes, latest training camp update, and we'll
hear from Andrew Abbott to a lot to get to
between now and six on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
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Anything you may have missed on this show, you can
go find on the iHeartRadio app, including this morning's Tony
and Mode training Camp show, and we got a chance
to talk to Jonathan Allen.
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(11:23):
rich Wood, Jesse Herron, and Scott Thompson are here, the
folks who created Cradle of Coaches, the documentary about football
coaches at Miami Universe. And now let's talk about how
folks can watch this. When will it premiere? Where will
it premiere? And have we determined exactly how many minutes
it is?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Okay, so I did my math on this. It's actually
an hour in fifty nine minutes. Okay, you're gonna want
to watch all the way through the credits, Okay, because
it's actually kind of a.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Fun special surprise at the end, national.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Surprises at the end. Yes, you may hear someone singing,
all right, yeah, yeah, someone who we all love and know, coach.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
But you will find this documentary on Peacock this August. Okay, Yes,
it's super exciting.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
How do you land a documentary that is and this
this is the wrong term. You could tell me locally
produced on a national platform like Peacock carries NFL playoff games,
right to carry NBA playoff games. Yeah, and now this
film is going to be on Peacock.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Yeah, and you're you're saying this local company. Yeah, no,
and actually just on that real quick. Yeah, we're so
proud of our like local, you know, the ability to
say local, because our crew was local too. So we
traveled coast to coast. Really, we went through twenty five cities.
We did about eighty interviews, each one at least an
hour some longer. Sean McVay was about ninety minutes. Gosh,
(12:54):
Jack Carball was like two hours long, under twenty minutes.
By the way, I know what.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Else was doing in this and we're I'll say it
right here, no one else in town is doing this
because in order to people do documentaries in town, and
that has been done, and even the last two years
there's been stuff that's come out, either sports wise or not,
but they're not getting on major streaming networks. And it
was you know, the doors were open through Miami University. Also,
we went out to New York multiple times and talked
(13:20):
to NBC Sports and talked to Peacock and pitched this
and we also pitched it on the We went to
the other coast and pitched it to Netflix.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
When we pitched at the ESPN, that was part of
what we were doing.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Well.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
At the end of the day, we're actually a marketing company,
so very early on this is something that I'm really
proud of coming me being the one that has a
really strong marketing background. Is that we put together pitch materials.
I mean, we went to the Real Screen Summit. We
pitched this to not the right audience, but the Oprah
Winfrey Network. It was just let's just get some experience.
(13:50):
I mean, hey, they liked they liked it. They're like, well,
this is kind of cool, you know, not really for
our audience.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But what is on the Oprah Winfree Network.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Not the coaches reruns of Oprah don't she doesn't do
a television show anymore.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, okay, I didn't even know such a thing existed.
So I'm glad to put it. Yeah, sit down with Steedman.
And she was still with that guy I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, Well if he's smart, yes, okay.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Here the deal. So we actually had pitch materials. We
had pitch materials that we then took to NBC and
Peacock and gave to you know, the contact that we had,
and he called me within I mean days and said, yes,
let's do this.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Because I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I know, and I've interviewed people who have made films
and they look awesome, and I'll say, well, where can
folks see it? And it's like, well, we're come over
to my house and we're going to have people over.
You could watch it in my basement. Well this is real,
and that sounds sounds nice. I don't know if I'm
gonna make it so, like I I've always wondered, And
when you guys started this, I'm like, this sounds amazing.
It deserves to be shown on a large platform, and
(14:52):
that's going to happen.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Well, we are a relentless force. I will say that,
and you can watch it in your own basement on Peacock.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
That's what I'll do.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, And now that it's I know it's not one
hundred and fifty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
It'll take one night. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Right, But what it was one hundred and fifty five
we were talking breaks, We got a pee your popcorn.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Don't worry, I got to go to bed. Yeah, come
back the next day.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'm impatient when it comes. Like I love movies, but
I always look at run time first, and I think.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You're gonna love this. I love Here's what somebody actually
said to me. They said it kind of reminded them
a little bit of the Banded Brothers because you have
this nice mix of like historical information and you hear
from some of the amusing quotation marks the old guys, right,
but then you have John Harbaugh and Sean McVay and
a lot of the newer guys that kind of are
interwoven throughout the whole documentary. So it will keep your attention.
(15:48):
And there's amazing stories.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You know what I like about this In this era
of college sports, where we were talking about a lot
of things that confuse people that folks don't like. This
is the antithesis of that, and my take people back
to an age that they perhaps yearn for.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
That's with Dennis Crawford, who was on our panel at
pay Court the other night and.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
He's in the documentary. He's the historian out of the
National College Hall of Fame at Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
He said, he goes.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
He said the same thing you say, kind of HARKing
back the time when coaching really meant something. Where I
think they think of coaching now is like it's more
of a general manager. Yeah, like you know, you're only
getting kids for one year maybe, and do you really
make a difference in that kid's life?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I hope. Yeah, it's harder, it's more difficult.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, it's more about the relationships, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Make a difference.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
And also like you know, you're more likely to kind
of have a lifelong relationship with somebody you were with
for four years than one.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
You're absolutely right. Yeah, And that goes from the you know,
even the professional level, right. I mean you have a
guy like Aaron Donald, who you know, he has this
amazing love for Sean McVay also fingers crossed that bad
he comes back to the rams.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
With him, like Aaron Donald beat the Bengals in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
You know that.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
When I met him, I said that, I said, my
son told me I couldn't like you, and he was
like ah, and he gave me a giant bear hug.
And then he was like, you want to see my
Super Bowl ring?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
No I don't. Actually, yeah, that's good. I'd love to
see it.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Because we flew the crew out to l A was like,
you know, screw this guy. Yes, but when they but
when when the crew met Kenny Anderson for the first time?
Oh yeah, I mean you know.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Kenny, Kenny the best, He's the best best. Yeah. Literally.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So there was a guy in our crew. His name
is Troy Blome. He's our director of photography. He's been
doing this for thirty years. And you know, and you
know this as well. You don't ask for autographs. No, no,
it's just not it's not kuth. You just don't do that.
And this was Troy's. Kenny Anderson was Troy's first autograph
and thirty some years of working because he just thought,
I mean, everybody loves Kenny, yes, and you're a Bengals fan,
(17:48):
you know, I.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Mean, so Kenny had some really great stories.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Oh Ken was the best. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, all right, Cradle of Coaches, Peacock. Do we know
the premiere Daters? That's still a little up in the air.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
It is all guess it is this August.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Okay, I'm going to say this in the next twenty
five days.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
No, I promise I will call you. I've got your number.
I'll call you, please do Okay, it will if I
allowed to call you.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
What about just life in general? We just catch up.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
There is absolutely nothing that I can pass on to
you about life that you would find remotely useful.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
That's a great I call you. I still have a
Peacock subscription.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Keep it for this month at least, and probably longer
because you're going to want to watch it again.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oh yeah, just one of those things that you just
put on again and again and again and again. Bailey, Dailey,
just one minutes.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
No, no, well, thank you for having us on.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I'm glad you clarified it because I saw something today
that said one fifty whoa like, what could it have been?
Speaker 5 (18:48):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I congratulations. I know how hard you guys have worked,
and uh, I know what a laborer love this is
and I know how excited the Miami community is, and
so I mean, honestly.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Congrats, like this is It's huge, right.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The undertaking that this was, to have the results of it,
you know, ready to go for the country to see
is is awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Thank you, Thank you, Jesse Herron, Scott Thompson.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Cradle of Coaches coming out on Peacock at some point
in the next three and a half weeks. Sports headlines
are next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station
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