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Speaker 1 (00:00):
She's Football in Minetti run to you in part by
blood Light and by Skyline Hilly on the official home
of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen to.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Forty for five ESPN fifteen thirty. Richard Skinner joins us
on Wednesdays from Local twelve and Local twelve dot com
on x at Local twelve, Skinny, how's it going? It's
going well?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Mo? How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You know what I'm doing?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I don't like it. I like Monday night football on Mondays.
I hate it the week leading up to it because
everything gets thrown off.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, and you can say that, but man, for me,
purposely between Sunday into the Monday seven o'clock in the
morning's flight into going write the Pakehorse working Monday, I
kind of needed a couple of days to recover.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Mo.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm too old to this kind of stuff anymore. So yeah,
I'm with you, I'm noting you. And it does throw
off your week and make it walky like now I've
got to go in there on a Saturday and work
this week. But yeah, I kind of needed the two.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Days arrest, all right, I understand. And everything does revolve
around you, which is fine because everything revolves around me
as well. So you're going to answer the bell on Monday.
Will t Higgins be out there?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's good question we're gonna find. I think tomorrow is
a big day for that. Even if he comes back
limited tomorrow, and that probably makes sense because he hasn't
practiced at all, that's a good step in the right direction.
If he doesn't go, then that's obviously either a setback
or he's not quite ready to go. So I think
tomorrow seeing him a when we get a chance to
see him, if he's in uniform, that's at least limited.
(01:34):
I don't think they'll push it to full. You know,
maybe you try to ramp him up on Friday's practice
to go full where you probably need at least one
of those under his belt. You know, I have always
believed and this was a Marvin thing, and and I'll
tell you Zach Taylor does the same thing a little
bit now. Usually when a guy comes back from something
like this, it's it's a ramp up week and then
he plays. But this week is so important that even
(01:56):
if you got you could get a handful of snaps
out of him. I think that would be important. I
heard you and Paul Daneer yesterday talking about it. You
know the play where Yoshi dropped the pass, and you
know a critical moment in the second and late in
the game, ten Higgins probably makes that catch, right, And
so can I get a handful of snaps out of
that guy in critical spots? I would hope.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
So despite the forty seven yard ers, does that mean
that Burton becomes the odd man out?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
It might, And I know fans aren't gonna like to
hear that, but it just might, you know, for my money,
just because he showed you something on that route and
the fact that if you put him back out there
in the circumstance like that, defenses are gonna have to react.
You that you're gonna have to say man, and he
can run right by you or you maybe rotate his
safety that way. And so maybe the odd man out
(02:43):
is Trent Irwin because he's not had a great first
couple of weeks, and I like Trent a ton me
squeezed everything he can out of his career to this point.
But maybe he's the odd man out. But it wouldn't
be shocking if it's Germaine, because the only thing you
can really do right now is literally in the auto.
You turn him and go, yeah, here's the play. You
run deep.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But like, but that's okay. I mean if he if
he's a lead at that and I can tap into
that once or twice a game like that's that's fun
for now in this offense.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
No and honesty motive To the other point, if you
choose the cover in man or choose the cover in
press and he gets off press, he's gonna beat you.
So you may have to kind of scheam a little
bit to hey, the fast guy who doesn't do any
other run fast down the fields in the game, we
might need to give help. And then that gives you
some other avenues to open things up. You can't double everybody, right,
So if he's on the field, and he's on the
(03:34):
field and to mars on the field, can't double them all.
I know by the way, your tight ends are just
coming off the most successful game maybe in Bengals history
as a group.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, and so I think I think that's where I
went to often on Sunday was watching Kisiki, watching Eric Hall,
who just looks like a guy who's gonna be a dude.
You think about this offense fully functional everybody healthy. Now
the versatility piece comes into play, which is something that's
often talked about, but we really haven't had a chance
so far to see.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, no, right, I think that's a great point. And
then you know you had Tea back to the mix
of whatever threat he is. Even if it's not one
hundred percent te or a team, if you're not gonna
play a lot, I still think you can lean into
those two tight end sets. And and I'm looking forward tomorrow.
We're gonna talk to Dan Pitcher after the walkthrough, and
I'm kind of interested to see was this a one
off game with it because it was just Kansas City
and you know, your other wide receivers other than Jamar
(04:24):
didn't do a whole lot in the opener and you're
looking for other avenues or was this legitimately a hey,
we've got some weapons there if we put this Sicky
and all in the field, you know, Mixtrew Stample in there,
just in the backfield. We had all in the backfield
lining up in as a as a fullback. A few times,
I thought it really I thought it showed that this
offense has a lot of certility to it, and getting
the Tea Higgins back in the mix certainly helps that.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Can they slip the distribution numbers? With Zach Maws and
Chase Brown.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Question because we then last week of or filling even
Split and he said, I still to look at it
as and even split and it really wasn't again right
And Chase had some explosive runs in Sunday's game. I
thought he looked really good. I thought he made some
really good cuts. And it's still everything he makes that
(05:12):
cut and makes a guy missed. You're thinking he can
take it a long way, and I still think that's there.
I did think mo they tried to get him involved
in the screen game when we watched walk through on Friday.
Usually we don't get a chance to see them do
a whole lot before they kick us out of practice,
but it looked like they were running a ton of
screen game, well ampule of screens they tried to run
to Chase. It felt like Kansas City blew them up
(05:32):
and that kind of took some touches away from Chase.
But yeah, I still think before it's all said and done,
and it might be this week, I still think you're
gonna get an even split a distribution back there.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, uh, what are they going to do a defensive tackle.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So my aide who played at the seventies and then
quit it for five years to write country music and
was certainly a star. They may be able to suit
him up because he's a lot of trailer on the tires.
It's spent fifty years since Mike play was a great place.
Or go look him up, kids, go look him up. Yeah,
that's a great question. I did see at least bj
Hill walking around the locker room on Monday and didn't
(06:08):
looked a whole lot worse for the wear just walking
now he's not also then getting into a three point
stance and firing off the football with that hamstring, But
that I thought was a semi positive sign, you know.
And then Sheldon we didn't see. It is crazy to
think of how they were down to literally two tackles
in Jay two Flea and and and Zach Carter, who
in a perfect world, if Chris Jenkins was healthy and
(06:29):
the Kimley Jackson was healthy neither word, those guys would
be on active roster. They'd be inactive every week. And
get here they are trying to close out a game
against Kansas City to two of them.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Is is Chris Jenkins clothes to coming back?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I would think you'd get some snaps out of him.
I mean, there was some hope the Kansas City game.
I get why there wasn't why he didn't. Again, you're
only a week remoof for literally having searched on your thumb.
Another week plus an extra day I think would help.
And I think at this point in the game, I
don't need fifty snaps out of him, but I need
some snaps oat of because they are just so thin
at that position. I sure would hope.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So who's who's coaching? Did you? Second guest? More the
way the Bengals handled fourth and sixteen or Mark Stubs
trying not to win against the number one team in
his country in the country on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Now, I know, I know fans in this market are
going on the fourth and sixteen, But as the Kentucky Grant,
I listen, here's I said this on my podcast, there
were recoring, So his decision to punt, in my mind,
I do understand of, Okay, you know our defense is
playing so well, get a stop. Okay, let's just assume
Georgia punks it back after a three and out and
let's just say for argument's sake, you got it at
(07:35):
your own thirty. You are gonna have to get some
chunk plays with no timeouts left against the defense that
doesn't give up many chunk plays as opposed to when
you examine that play you got, you got a chance
on a fourty yeo, give me one play if you
tell me, give me one fourth and eight to maybe
go beat Georgia because then they so we had to
get a little bit more yards to getting field the range.
But give me one fourth and eight in the fourth quarter.
(07:57):
You got go for that. Man, you can't can think
about because then you're asking yourself, well, yeah, we're gonna
hold the punt back you so we get a first
set it down. Yeah, and you got to go another
fifty yards against that defense and get some chow place.
You weren't getting multiple tounk plays. I'm asking to get
one a fortunate.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Eight any punt staggering, I uh, in real time, I
couldn't believe it, and I did think of you, and
you gave me exactly what I was looking for.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I appreciate. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
HI enjoy your Wednesday, man, thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, we real quick real quick. By the way, I
heard you talking earlier about the stadium stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
When I stadium renderings and whatnot, those things hit me
a lot, like a lot, like those those whole uh
you know, the financial game of cities get economic impact.
I roll my eyes and all that stuff, because all
those amenities, they're never gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Right, yeah, I you know again, it's we We've had
people come in and they're gonna redo our kitchen, right
or they're gonna put it in a new basement something
like that. You're really excited about it. You look at
the price tag and then you think about how you're
gonna pay for it, and suddenly those renderings get thrown
in the garbage.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And that came by my house and said said, guy,
you need a new roof. I said yeah, I said,
we're going to probably get that. He goes. I thought, yeah,
I don't have to pay that. You just I want
to get your resterns company involved, like, oh, okay, can
we get an insurance company involved with the Bengals like
that stadium.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Uh, you might have a better chance of getting them
to pay for it than the Bengals. So you know,
maybe I have good call all right, man, thank you
as always. Richard Skinner Local twelve and Local twelve dot
com on x at Local twelve. Skinny, you'll hear what
Joe Burrow told rich Eisen and you'll hear what the
(09:40):
coach of the Commanders, Dan Quinn said rich about stopping
Joe Burrow in the Bengals Next. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati
Sports Station.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
You've been listening to football in Thenetti on the official
home of the Bengals, Cincinnatis, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnatis
She's Football in Minetti run to you in part by
blood Light and by Skyline Hilly on the official home
of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen to.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Forty for five ESPN fifteen thirty. Richard Skinner joins us
on Wednesdays from Local twelve and Local twelve dot com
on x at Local twelve, Skinny, how's it going? It's
going well?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Mo? How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You know what I'm doing?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I don't like it. I like Monday night football on Mondays.
I hate it the week leading up to it because
everything gets thrown off.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, and you can say that, but man, for me,
purposely between Sunday into the Monday seven o'clock in the
morning's flight into going write the Pakehorse working Monday, I
kind of needed a couple of days to recover.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Mo.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm too old to this kind of stuff anymore. So yeah,
I'm with you, I'm noting you. And it does throw
off your week and make it walky like now I've
got to go in there on a Saturday and work
this week. But yeah, I kind of needed the two.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Days arrest, all right, I understand. And everything does revolve
around you, which is fine because everything revolves around me
as well. So you're going to answer the bell on Monday.
Will t Higgins be out there?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's good question we're gonna find. I think tomorrow is
a big day for that. Even if he comes back
limited tomorrow, and that probably makes sense because he hasn't
practiced at all, that's a good step in the right direction.
If he doesn't go, then that's obviously either a setback
or he's not quite ready to go. So I think
tomorrow seeing him a when we get a chance to
see him, if he's in uniform, that's at least limited.
(01:34):
I don't think they'll push it to full. You know,
maybe you try to ramp him up on Friday's practice
to go full where you probably need at least one
of those under his belt. You know, I have always
believed and this was a Marvin thing, and and I'll
tell you Zach Taylor does the same thing a little
bit now. Usually when a guy comes back from something
like this, it's it's a ramp up week and then
he plays. But this week is so important that even
(01:56):
if you got you could get a handful of snaps
out of him. I think that would be important. I
heard you and Paul Daneer yesterday talking about it. You
know the play where Yoshi dropped the pass, and you
know a critical moment in the second and late in
the game, ten Higgins probably makes that catch, right, And
so can I get a handful of snaps out of
that guy in critical spots? I would hope.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
So despite the forty seven yard ers, does that mean
that Burton becomes the odd man out?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
It might, And I know fans aren't gonna like to
hear that, but it just might, you know, for my money,
just because he showed you something on that route and
the fact that if you put him back out there
in the circumstance like that, defenses are gonna have to react.
You that you're gonna have to say man, and he
can run right by you or you maybe rotate his
safety that way. And so maybe the odd man out
(02:43):
is Trent Irwin because he's not had a great first
couple of weeks, and I like Trent a ton me
squeezed everything he can out of his career to this point.
But maybe he's the odd man out. But it wouldn't
be shocking if it's Germaine, because the only thing you
can really do right now is literally in the auto.
You turn him and go, yeah, here's the play. You
run deep.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But like, but that's okay. I mean if he if
he's a lead at that and I can tap into
that once or twice a game like that's that's fun
for now in this offense.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
No and honesty motive To the other point, if you
choose the cover in man or choose the cover in
press and he gets off press, he's gonna beat you.
So you may have to kind of scheam a little
bit to hey, the fast guy who doesn't do any
other run fast down the fields in the game, we
might need to give help. And then that gives you
some other avenues to open things up. You can't double everybody, right,
So if he's on the field, and he's on the
(03:34):
field and to mars on the field, can't double them all.
I know by the way, your tight ends are just
coming off the most successful game maybe in Bengals history
as a group.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, and so I think I think that's where I
went to often on Sunday was watching Kisiki, watching Eric Hall,
who just looks like a guy who's gonna be a dude.
You think about this offense fully functional everybody healthy. Now
the versatility piece comes into play, which is something that's
often talked about, but we really haven't had a chance
so far to see.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, no, right, I think that's a great point. And
then you know you had Tea back to the mix
of whatever threat he is. Even if it's not one
hundred percent te or a team, if you're not gonna
play a lot, I still think you can lean into
those two tight end sets. And and I'm looking forward tomorrow.
We're gonna talk to Dan Pitcher after the walkthrough, and
I'm kind of interested to see was this a one
off game with it because it was just Kansas City
and you know, your other wide receivers other than Jamar
(04:24):
didn't do a whole lot in the opener and you're
looking for other avenues or was this legitimately a hey,
we've got some weapons there if we put this Sicky
and all in the field, you know, Mixtrew Stample in there,
just in the backfield. We had all in the backfield
lining up in as a as a fullback. A few times,
I thought it really I thought it showed that this
offense has a lot of certility to it, and getting
the Tea Higgins back in the mix certainly helps that.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Can they slip the distribution numbers? With Zach Maws and
Chase Brown.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Question because we then last week of or filling even
Split and he said, I still to look at it
as and even split and it really wasn't again right
And Chase had some explosive runs in Sunday's game. I
thought he looked really good. I thought he made some
really good cuts. And it's still everything he makes that
(05:12):
cut and makes a guy missed. You're thinking he can
take it a long way, and I still think that's there.
I did think mo they tried to get him involved
in the screen game when we watched walk through on Friday.
Usually we don't get a chance to see them do
a whole lot before they kick us out of practice,
but it looked like they were running a ton of
screen game, well ampule of screens they tried to run
to Chase. It felt like Kansas City blew them up
(05:32):
and that kind of took some touches away from Chase.
But yeah, I still think before it's all said and done,
and it might be this week, I still think you're
gonna get an even split a distribution back there.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, uh, what are they going to do a defensive tackle.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So my aide who played at the seventies and then
quit it for five years to write country music and
was certainly a star. They may be able to suit
him up because he's a lot of trailer on the tires.
It's spent fifty years since Mike play was a great place.
Or go look him up, kids, go look him up. Yeah,
that's a great question. I did see at least bj
Hill walking around the locker room on Monday and didn't
(06:08):
looked a whole lot worse for the wear just walking
now he's not also then getting into a three point
stance and firing off the football with that hamstring, But
that I thought was a semi positive sign, you know.
And then Sheldon we didn't see. It is crazy to
think of how they were down to literally two tackles
in Jay two Flea and and and Zach Carter, who
in a perfect world, if Chris Jenkins was healthy and
(06:29):
the Kimley Jackson was healthy neither word, those guys would
be on active roster. They'd be inactive every week. And
get here they are trying to close out a game
against Kansas City to two of them.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Is is Chris Jenkins clothes to coming back?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I would think you'd get some snaps out of him.
I mean, there was some hope the Kansas City game.
I get why there wasn't why he didn't. Again, you're
only a week remoof for literally having searched on your thumb.
Another week plus an extra day I think would help.
And I think at this point in the game, I
don't need fifty snaps out of him, but I need
some snaps oat of because they are just so thin
at that position. I sure would hope.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So who's who's coaching? Did you? Second guest? More the
way the Bengals handled fourth and sixteen or Mark Stubs
trying not to win against the number one team in
his country in the country on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Now, I know, I know fans in this market are
going on the fourth and sixteen, But as the Kentucky Grant,
I listen, here's I said this on my podcast, there
were recoring, So his decision to punt, in my mind,
I do understand of, Okay, you know our defense is
playing so well, get a stop. Okay, let's just assume
Georgia punks it back after a three and out and
let's just say for argument's sake, you got it at
(07:35):
your own thirty. You are gonna have to get some
chunk plays with no timeouts left against the defense that
doesn't give up many chunk plays as opposed to when
you examine that play you got, you got a chance
on a fourty yeo, give me one play if you
tell me, give me one fourth and eight to maybe
go beat Georgia because then they so we had to
get a little bit more yards to getting field the range.
But give me one fourth and eight in the fourth quarter.
(07:57):
You got go for that. Man, you can't can think
about because then you're asking yourself, well, yeah, we're gonna
hold the punt back you so we get a first
set it down. Yeah, and you got to go another
fifty yards against that defense and get some chow place.
You weren't getting multiple tounk plays. I'm asking to get
one a fortunate.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Eight any punt staggering, I uh, in real time, I
couldn't believe it, and I did think of you, and
you gave me exactly what I was looking for.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I appreciate. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
HI enjoy your Wednesday, man, thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, we real quick real quick. By the way, I
heard you talking earlier about the stadium stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
When I stadium renderings and whatnot, those things hit me
a lot, like a lot, like those those whole uh
you know, the financial game of cities get economic impact.
I roll my eyes and all that stuff, because all
those amenities, they're never gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Right, yeah, I you know again, it's we We've had
people come in and they're gonna redo our kitchen, right
or they're gonna put it in a new basement something
like that. You're really excited about it. You look at
the price tag and then you think about how you're
gonna pay for it, and suddenly those renderings get thrown
in the garbage.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And that came by my house and said said, guy,
you need a new roof. I said yeah, I said,
we're going to probably get that. He goes. I thought, yeah,
I don't have to pay that. You just I want
to get your resterns company involved, like, oh, okay, can
we get an insurance company involved with the Bengals like
that stadium.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Uh, you might have a better chance of getting them
to pay for it than the Bengals. So you know,
maybe I have good call all right, man, thank you
as always. Richard Skinner Local twelve and Local twelve dot
com on x at Local twelve. Skinny, you'll hear what
Joe Burrow told rich Eisen and you'll hear what the
(09:40):
coach of the Commanders, Dan Quinn said rich about stopping
Joe Burrow in the Bengals Next. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati
Sports Station.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
You've been listening to football in Thenetti on the official
home of the Bengals, Cincinnatis, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnatis
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