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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:20):
This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Thank you to Penn Station. As we get underway here
our number three, ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's
talk Bearcats. A huge one at Nipperts Stadium on Saturday.
Bearcat basketball plays on Sunday, and then of course a
huge matchup against Louisville at Heritage Banks Arena next Friday night,
and then BYU comes into town. So picking up here

(00:50):
for the Cincinnati Bearcats. So let's spend time talking about
said Bearcats. Austin's favorite, my second favorite, Nickoson. It's Keegan
Nickoson joining us right now from Bearcat Jenneral Hi Kegan.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Hi, Tony Keg.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
And you sound healthy, you sound well, You sound much
better than the flu game that you had to push through.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well that that's ironic because I actually had food poisoning yesterday.
So I'm I'm really. Uh, my recovery rate is very
good in terms of them being out for a day.
But I'm doing solid.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Do you know, like what it was that you ate?
You don't have to give like a name brand or anything,
but do you know what it was?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
There's no one in this world I fear more than
Zack Stipe, So I'm not going to bring it up.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I'll take that and run.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Kagan.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Let's let's talk about what was at fitth third Arena
against the Dayton Flyers, because I feel like you could
be on both sides of this one. Sloppy twenty four turnovers,
Dayton makes seven percent of their threes, but on the
other end, you still find a way to win the
game by twelve points, and talking about a win while

(02:09):
having things to fix is a lot better than a loss.
How did you view the I would say, how do
you view the effort that you saw from this Bearcat
team against Dayton?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
I think you see was just the better team at
the end of the day. I think they were bigger
and better And basically I would say every facet except
for turnovers. And you know, if you want to put
a spin zone on it, you can say, well, we
know the one thing they have to work on over
three games because the turnovers have been like that kind
of really bright flashing warning sign, and I think it's

(02:46):
it's mainly due to the fast pace that they're playing with.
It's different than what u SE's played with in the
past two years. And Wes Miller is not someone who
is going to see the struggles with the pace and
then kind of changed course. He sounds like he's really
committed to it. So it's definitely something that they have

(03:08):
to flesh out with that kind of increased chemistry. But
maybe the turnovers are just something that it's not going
to be twenty four is I think company they had
against Stayton. It's not going to be like that every night.
But that could be a weak spot for this team.
But when you get to that eight minute mark of
the second half and you're wearing down the opposition, that's

(03:29):
when they can kind of take over. And that's what
you saw against Dayton. So they played well. I think
they shot it pretty well when they actually couldn't shoot
the ball and didn't turn it over because I think
at some point they had turned it over in twenty
or fifty possessions, which isn't great, but you know they
I think they were just more talented.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
The talent level is high on this team. What do
you make of the style in which they've been able
to play through the first three Again, the level of
competition will pick up, but it does feel like a
team last year they were just searching. At times, you
could see the possession unfolding where there wasn't much ball movement.
It became a rough shot at the end. I thought

(04:10):
at times against Dayton they might have had one or
two passes too many. But it does feel different the
way this team operates offensively in trying to push it
if it's not there. They do share the ball.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Well, Yeah, there's a lot of ball movement, definitely more
than what I've seen in the past couple of years.
And that really starts with per Crisa. And you even
see him kind of making those no looks behind the
back passes that end up going straight out of bounds
because he's expecting a teammate a teammate to be somewhere
that they aren't. But I think when you talk about talent,

(04:42):
you talk about style, you have to go to Seanabia
and Babla Miller. Those two guys that are kind of
raising the roof and getting the fans really excited. A
Bayav hits two turnaround threes, one while he's hitting sound
and literally falling into the lap of someone that was
sitting half or just like really really great plays, and

(05:03):
Baba Miller's reaching all the way back and getting an
al oop. I think, and I've mentioned it before, but
those three players and Miller, Abiah and Seam are gonna
be kind of the catalyst of what the Cincinnati team
can be. Sham's kind of struggled a little bit, at
least offensively, but you see his ability on the defensive end,

(05:24):
kind of similar to his E's mandego, where you just
see his arm reach out and you wonder, like, I
don't know how anyone shoots over That guy hasn't raped
up the blocks as many as people might have thought
that he would so far, but I think that you'll
start to see that kind of increases he gets more comfortable.
But yeah, those three are great. Kerkkrisa been really good.

(05:47):
And then another guy who isn't getting into a lot
of notice is Jalen Celesting, but he just comes in
and he hits those few threes and big spots, and
he hit one that kind of sparked a run and
gave him some momentum when they were struggle and against Dayton,
and it helped the time.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Is there anything you can do personally keeking to help
this team with their free throw shooting?

Speaker 3 (06:09):
You know, I really don't think so. You kind of
almost have to bake in that they're going to make
under sixty five percent of the free throws in your
game plan, so you have to go somewhere else. Wes
Miller was actually talking about it at his radio show
last week, and I think it was after the Western
Carolina game. He turned around to Dan Horde and Terry

(06:30):
Or it might have been Dan Hord Mo during that
game and said, is there like a curse on the
Cincinnati free throws? And I think that he kind of
just didn't believe it after the first four years, but
now that it's been five, he's like, Okay, this is
actually like out of our control. So I'm not sure
when guys like Shanabaya or mising them Bass when it's

(06:51):
more obvious because he's supposed to be like one of
the best shooters. Jeordie Rodriguez, other guys who were just
supposed to be really, really good shooters. It almost feels
like they're as a curse. But you know, I think
it was the first player to make all at least
ten of their attempts make all of them. Dayde Thomas
did it against Dayton. The other time was in twenty twelve. Yeah,

(07:15):
So when you don't have that kind of consistency, maybe
there's some voodoo or crazy stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I have to ask because this is always fascinating to me,
and I know early in the season you play a
lot of guys when all is said and done with
this team, like we saw Jordi Rodriguez and Keishan Tillery's
minutes were eliminated in the second half against Dayton, and
they did not play particularly well. Both had two turnovers
in a short amount of time in the first half.

(07:41):
When all is said and done, What do you think
the ideal number is for a rotation in the Big
twelve to have the most success.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I think Wes has actually said before that the rotation
actually needs to grow instead of shrink when you get
the conference play. I think it needs to be around nine,
but that has to be nine guys who can really
really compete and help you, Like, it's not putting someone
on the floor that's going to struggle just for the

(08:10):
sake of having a longer rotation that gives some guys
some breeders and some breaks. I think it's nine to ten,
and you know, I don't really know it's weird. I
would go with nine to ten and then just kind
of always try to have your best players on the
floor as much as possible, because you've seen how that's

(08:33):
worked for Uce. So yeah, I would go nine to ten.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
The matchup against Louisville. Louisville's a great basketball team. We
just watched what they did to Kentucky on Tuesday night.
Everyone knows Pat Kelsey's got a very talented team. How
far could a win next Friday go for Wes Miller
and this team and the trajectory because it feels like
one of those wins against an opponent that has just
eluded Wes Miller. You're essentially playing it at your back

(08:59):
yard heritage bank. But how far would it go to
find a way to win that game on Friday night
for not only this team, but for Wes in general.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
It would be absolutely huge. I think it would do
a ton for their kind of their trendiness around the
country and what people think of this team, because you know,
they're not ranked in the AP top twenty five. They're
around like thirty six or thirty seven in terms of
Ken palm where he's looking at him. So I think

(09:29):
it would do a ton. Louisville is legitimately a Final
Four contender. I mean, that's how good that team is.
And you saw what they did to former Bearcat Eric
Martin the South Carolina State team. I think it was
like some like fifty to like eight at halftime or
something like that, just a blowout. And I mean Pat

(09:51):
Kelsy is a great coach, Michael Brown is a really
really good guard who a lot of people are talking
about as a lottery pick. But this is a game
where Sin Sandy just kind of had to establish your identity.
If you're going to be eat a team that plays
with a ton of pace, go and wear Louisville down
for some mistakes and have a really good shooting night,
maybe have a really good shooting night from the free

(10:11):
throw line once once in your life, and just kind
of wear away at that Louisville team. But you know,
it'd be a great thing to kind of get people
back on West's side. A lot of people, including myself,
don't really know what this team's going to be, and
through three games we don't have that much more clarity.
We've got some kind of like you know, Shana Bay.

(10:32):
It's been pretty consistently good. Baba Miller could be one
of the better players in the entire Big Twelve. But
beating that Louisville team, especially in like an old rivalry
type game, it would put Cincinnati on the map, especially
in front of your home crowd, even though I would
expect it to be close to fifty to fifty, if
at the very least sixty forty. With Louisville fans.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Talk a little bit, Let's let's switch to the football
side a few more minutes. You with Keegan nickoson Bearcat
journal dot com. Everyone asked over the bye, Keegan, what's
different about this year's team compared to last year's team,
the team that started five and two and then lost
their final five. I thought, I don't know if it
was much as being exposed against Utah, but receivers struggled
at times to get open. Brendan Swerzby didn't have his

(11:16):
best day. The special teams unit resorted back to what
we've seen in the past, and that was not great defense,
couldn't get the stops when necessary. What gives you more
confidence that the Utah game was more of just a
one off and not something that's going to be the
norm going forward.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, I don't really know about that game being a
one off. If I'm being completely honest, if they play
Utah on a nutral site, hypothetically, I think Utah probably wins,
and probably wins by seven to ten. Like, I didn't
take much from that game to be like, oh this
is this is kind of fluky. Now you saw the

(11:55):
special teams lapses, You saw the fumble in the red
zone at a big play, which that's where you can
look at it. But you know, Utah just dominated them
up front. They brought a ton of pressure and they
played really tight. Man. And if I'm being completely honest,
if a team's gonna do that, and they're gonna be

(12:15):
able to do that, like Arizona, I think they're playing
on playing a lot of man, But I don't know
if they have the horses that Utah has. If a
team's gonna do that, U see is gonna have trouble
in all honesty, and it's not because they're not a
talented team, But I just don't know if they're up
to that level of talent that the Utahs and Texas
Tech have so far. So I'd be really interested to

(12:39):
see what a Texas Tech versus U SEE showdown would
look like in Dallas. That's a Big twelve championship because
it's kind of the that's kind of what everyone is
looking forward to. It's the most likely scenario, But yeah,
I don't know if that was fluky. I still think
that they're gonna go free and o in these last
three games and they're gonna play for Big Twelve championship.
Despite I think k Ford today said there's an eighty

(13:03):
five percent chance they go one and two down the stretch.
But I think this is a really, really good Cincinnati team.
Just other certain teams in the Big Twelve offer a
matchup that don't really give them a great chance to
be able to come out victorious health wise.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Does it feel like they're close to back being where
they need to be? Golda was banged up, Dante Corleone's
been banged up, Evan Pryor didn't play coming out of
the by. Does this team feel healthy.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Evan Pryor was questionable and Caleb Goodie was questionable and
the latest availability report, so we're going to be looking
up for those guys and seeing if they're playing, at
least in the game day update. So I think that
they're definitely getting healthier. Golde is fine, and I think
d Day Crollon is. I actually think Dante croleone is

(13:52):
going to really pop off in these last three games.
I think he's going to have kind of that that
mindset of these are my last three games as a Bearcat.
We've got in front of us to kind of etch
our name down in history and get to that Big
twelve championship game, be the first team to get to
a Big twelve Championship game. So I think I think
he'll have a big three games. Maybe he gets to

(14:13):
one hundred percent health and like I said, Goade's one
hundred percent healthy, So I think they're trending in that direction.
But those two question marks of Goody and Evan Pryor,
those are two big names that we're going to be
looking out for on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
So many people all they want to do is talk
about the BYU game next weekend and here comes an
Arizona team that took BYU to overtime. They had a
ten point lead in the fourth quarter, lost eventually in
ot Houston beat him at the gun at Houston. Houston
is eight and two. They have a loss at Iowa State.
This is a good defense in Arizona. It's a quarterback

(14:48):
in Noah Fafida who's got over twenty two hundred yards
passing in twenty three touchdowns with only four interceptions. I
caution I have cautioned a lot of Bearcat fans that
this is a good Arizona team. How much of a
challenge does this team possess this Cincinnati bearcatch group on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, if I'm completely honest, I think they have a
better chance of losing to Arizona at Bold than they
do of losing to TCU on the road. Like Scott
Saderfield said it, Jason Sheer, who covers Arizona for two
poor seven, I talked to him and he said it.
This team's six points from being eight and one. Like
a lot of fans have talked about UC over the

(15:28):
past couple of years, and in those one four games,
that's how close they were. This team is that close
to being tied with Texas Tech and Cincinnati for the
lead in the Big Twelve and BYU and it's those
close games. It's it's the last second things, it's the

(15:49):
small plays. So I think Noah Fafida is a veteran
quarterback who's having a really really good year despite losing
Tetero McMillan, which is probably one of the best US
wide receivers in Arizona history, who's playing with the Carolina
Panthers now and having a really great rookie season. The
defense is I think number nineteen in points per game

(16:10):
and number thirty in yards per game, so they're playing
really well and the offense is around the same numbers.
So it's a really really good team. The weakness is
the rush defense, and that's where I'm going to look
for Scott Satherfield to establish the run game on Saturday
and then hit those play action shots. So what I'm
looking for is defense, step up, get a couple stops

(16:33):
to start the game, and then the offense just takes
that traditional two possession maybe even three possession lead at halftime,
and then the opposition is obviously gonna like come back
and call back and they're going to. I think Arizona
will be in a spot where there it's turnover away
from maybe time to game, like we've seen the UCF
in Iowa State. But that's where Brendan Sorozy's talent and

(16:57):
how good he's playing comes in and then you see
feels a thirty four or twenty four victory. That's my prediction.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Higher likelihood you see winning the final three in football
or uc beating Louisville next Friday.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Night winning the final three in football. Okay, And that's
not me saying that you see is is not a
good basketball team, because I think they are, and if
I had to pick right now, I think that they
would make the tournament. But I think Louisville is a
legit Final four contender, and I think they're going to
have a really, really good season. They're well coached and

(17:31):
they have a ton of talent.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Kegan, you're the best, well, you're the second best out
of your family. But we enjoy your time here for
Bearcat journal dot com. What's the easiest way people can
follow along with everything you got coming out?

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Follow Kay Nicholson forty two on Twitter and then also
make sure you subscribe to Barricott Journal. Check out my
story I did on Jack Grant and Jack Griffith and
the football teams player personnel Department, one of my favorite
stories I've ever written at DCJ. Those are great and
they've done a great job of flipping the football program
since they took over. So had a ton of fun

(18:05):
right now, real.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Real quick on that, just a brief overview because I
saw the piece. I don't think people realize the detail
that they've brought to their jobs at the University of Cincinnati.
Just tease that piece a little bit for people that
may not be familiar.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, it's basically centered around the how they attack the
transfer portal and how they're doing it differently than other schools,
kind of like a in a moneyball aspect of if
we look at the transfer portal like Georgia and Ohio
State and LSU, it's not going to be good. So
we have to do something differently to find a different approach.

(18:42):
And basically their biggest thing is time on task and
watching filmy. They evaluated and scouted twenty two seventy eight
players from the end of the twenty twenty four season
or from the beginning of the twenty twenty four portal
to the end of the twenty twenty five portal when
they took twenty one of those players. Wow, and now

(19:02):
twenty two thousand, Boston College twenty two thousand, So they
watched the tape and that now you have Boston College's
head coach Phil O'Brien going in from the media and saying, yeah,
the portal is really hard. We don't really know how
to attack it. You don't, I mean, there's just no
way to really get a gauge for anything. And then
sinc Natty sees that and says, you could just work really,

(19:24):
really hard, and then if someone happens to go on
the portal, you know that this is a guy you
can attack and watch. So that's basically the long and
short of it. It was a ton of fun. Those
guys are great, and make sure you try to go read.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
That awesome, awesome stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Keegan.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
We're always appreciating your time, man. I look forward to
seeing you this weekend. Have a great rest of the week.
Careful what you eat?

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah, thanks, Tonny, I'll try.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Thanks Keegan. That's Keegan nickoson Bearcat Journal dot com.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
That's that's cool man. How about that though, have you
ever had food poisoning.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yes, that's the worst. How about twenty two thousand players
in order to get what twenty one or twenty two
of them? That's very impressive. That's a ton of work, man,
and it is. It's true, like you don't have the
resources that the top dogs have, so the only way
you're gonna do it is to work harder.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Good on them for trying to come up with a
plan that works to their advantage. And you know, fits
kind of their style of play. I wonder if Nick
Crawl was consolable, get crawled, get crawled? Maybe Wittba we
come back. Let's keep the ball rolling. It's Thursday. Our
friends at the University in Cincinnati and novacare always willing

(20:29):
to help us out talk some injury things happening across
the National Football League. Brian Growie of novacare joins us
next on the home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen to
thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Welcome back. It is since e three to sixty hour
number three on a Thursday afternoon, rolling right along on
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's spend some time
on the injury front, and let's do so with a
guest from our good friend at Novacare, Brian Growie is
joining us today on behalf of Novacare and Brian and

(21:07):
first of all, how are you doing.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
I am doing very well, Tony, Thanks for having me today.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Absolutely, Absolutely, the world of football, we are always seeing
injuries throughout the game, and we saw a pretty nasty
one with the injury to Jaydon Daniels a few games
ago and got me thinking a little bit about something
that I've went through. I've fractured my arm twice when

(21:32):
I was at the University of Cincinnati. Uh, let's talk
a little bit about dislocations or fractured dislocations and just
what that looks like to a trainer when you initially
get that diagnosis.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
Absolutely, it's one of those injury patterns that I would
say is fodder for clickbait. It always looks gruesome, and
you know, it's one of those things where you don't
want to look at it, but you also don't want
to look away. When people end up injuring their joint
and dislocating it, the number one thing is trying to
get the joint back in place, and that's exactly what

(22:05):
you know athletic trainer or a physician is going to
do on the sideline those ones that are the elbow
fractures and or dislocations. You know, they can come in
different varieties. You can either have a dislocation or you
can have a dislocation with a fracture, and typically those
are going to be the ones that we discuss getting
reduced and even sometimes needing surgery.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
When you think about not only the need for surgery,
but what else are you concerned with when you see
a dislocation, about that not only with the fracture itself,
but maybe what's around that, you know.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Tony, that's a great question in regards to injury to
any extremity, especially the dislocation. The first and foremost thing,
we want to make sure that the patient has a pulse.
Do they have an injury to a neurovascular structure, because
we want to make sure that the patient gets sent

(22:59):
to the right place at the right time. Do we
need to send them to the hospital. Do they have
an injury to an artery? Do they have an injury
to a nerve, especially if you're traveling. You know, as
you know with collegiate or professional athletics, those doctors and
those athletic trainers could be on the road and they
may need to send them to an outside hospital to
be sure that the limb is okay.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
So with Jadan Daniels a couple of weeks ago, obviously
the worry is at first how gruesome it looks, and
then you're making sure to test the ligament damage. And
for Jadan Daniels did not have any ligament damage, so
he avoided a seison ending injury. Obviously still going to
be out quite some time. But how different of a
rehab process, how much more severity are you adding if

(23:42):
there were ligament damage around that fracture?

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Yeah, I mean when when guys dislocate their joints and
have ligament damage, typically that does occur. It's those fractures
that actually get a little bit more tricky in terms
of idiosyncrasies associated with do you need surgery? Do you
not need surgery? But thankfully, when guys have the dislocation
and do not end up with any sort of ligamentous

(24:06):
injury that would affect their position. You know, because we're
personalizing this with everybody time and place, you know, what's
your position, What do you need to do to compete?
What do you need to do to compete at the
highest level. But I would say a good timeline associated
with the dislocation is first getting the range of motion
back over the next cup, over the first few weeks,

(24:28):
getting the swelling down, and then getting their strength back
over the next few weeks after that, and typically we're
looking at four to six weeks on on most dislocations
that do not require surgery.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
When you're talking about getting back, I think one of
the unique things with injuries, there are some injuries that
feel like you run the risk of re injuring that
same area, and there are some injuries you're healed and
you never think about it again. When you talk about
a fracture, you talk about something as we're discussing here,
is there a inherent risk at suffering some type of

(25:01):
re injury at some point.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah, that's another great question when we look at guys
that play contact sports like football, because you know, they're basically,
you know, getting into a car accident multiple times during
the game, and they're.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Putting their bodies at risk.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
When we're talking about fractures, I think we usually try
to dicotomize them between you know, weight bearing and non
weight bearing. You know, is it part of your extremity
that you're running on or is this more a situation
where it's a smaller bone like a finger. And I
think all of them run the risk of being reinjured.
And then I think it just depends upon you know,

(25:39):
risk to the player and what they're willing to undergo
to get back onto the field. But you see it
all the time and guys they break their collarbone, they
go back too soon and then they rebreak it. Or
we see guys with a fibula fracture down at their
foot or ankle area and they break that and then
they're back in six weeks and they're good to go.

(26:01):
So we try to personalize it again based upon sort
of the what the risk is and then what does
that mean if they rebreak it? Does that mean then
they're going to need surgery and then they're going to
be out the season.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
So it's a balance.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I know there are some injuries that you take on
and you can maybe even play before you're back to
one hundred percent. You could pad it up, you could
play with some type of brace, depending on obviously where
the fracture or the dislocation would happen. Is this the
type of injury that you could protect in a certain

(26:32):
way and get back for a quarterback, Let's let's say
a right handed quarterback that hurts his left arm, or
are you making sure it's one hundred percent healthy before
you're getting back out there.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
So, in my opinion and in my experience, I would say,
especially with these higher level athletes, that when you get
into the NFL, they want to be out there. A
lot of these guys just love playing the game and
it's what they've dreamed of doing and are really trying
to be a great of about trying to get it
back on the field. And even in the all the
way down to the high school athletes, you know, sometimes

(27:05):
as medical professionals, the athletic trainers and the doctors, you know,
we're protecting them from their cells, from themselves as much
as anything else. In regard specifically to an elbow injury
like that that you're describing, I would say, you know,
even in the throwing arm, that would be a pretty
low likelihood that you would redislocate it once it kind
of heals up over the first couple of weeks. So

(27:26):
as long as they can compete in their position and
protect themselves out on the field. I would be pretty
bullish about getting that quarterback back onto the field.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Awesome stuff, man, Brian, this was so helpful for us.
We can't thank you enough for your time. We appreciate
certainly the University of Cincinnati and Novacare and again thank
you for your time. I look forward to catching up
again soon.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Thanks, Tony.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Have a great day.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
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novacare dot com. Today we're moving right along. Cinty three
to sixty hour three on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Welcome back Cincy three sixty thanks to Penn Station. On
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks for listening, Thanks
for being a part of our afternoon here each and
every day, Friday Edition. Sad to say, Austin, we don't
get Tommy g tomorrow. I'm told load management, load management
season for Tommy Gen Tomasclaric.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
All right, he's earned it, all right, he's earned it.
I mean, you can't make fun of him. I say
it took a whole week off earlier, like last month,
two weeks, I think a couple of weeks. So now
I'm paying for it, and many ways? What else we
got going on today?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (29:10):
In a few minutes, I'm going to go to my
notes here, see what else I had written down? What
are you doing the rest of your afternoon? What's that
look like?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
It's a nice day outside, whether you know, you get
to enjoy a little bit of the weather.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
No, okay, go down the hall and produce another show?
Then what on another station?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Then what?

Speaker 4 (29:26):
And then I'm gonna go home, and you know, I'll
be honest. I neglected my apartment a little bit, so
that EASi to be cleaned up.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Okay, And.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
After that, I I'm just wait for football to come on.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
I might play some video games. I've been playing Battlefield
six with my friends, so.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
You're done with Uh, you're done with Madden your Madden League.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Over hell on a bye week. Oh yeah, we're nine
and one at the bye week. Okay, yeah, okay, just
disposed of a couple of good teams. You know, you
got to be careful when you don't address things at
the house for a while. Mary and I have done
that for I think since we moved in, basically to
where like I have a pile of clothes. Yeah, that

(30:09):
are clean, but they're just kind of laid there.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
So Mayor Mayor has this thing since we've moved in,
we just had we we we brought way too much junk.
I'm kind of what they call a horder. Oh Mayor
is not. I wish mayors not. She despises the hoarding.
I don't throw stuff away. And I think since we
moved into our home, Mayor has done two things. She's

(30:37):
constantly looking at houses and what other houses do to
their interiors. Sure, and then like once, I would say
every other week for probably two years, she has texted
me about getting a dumpster for our yard to just
throw crap away.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
And I.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Finally broke down and got a dumpster. And you know
what today is dumpster day. Oh so you got to
go clean the house out. Oh my gosh, I'm not
looking forward to it. We have we have two main areas,
so our basement, like our storage in the basement is
full of garbage, not like food guard like just stuff
we don't use anymore in our garage. I'm not worried

(31:16):
about the garage, but the stuff in the basement that
you're gonna like carry up steps and out the front door,
I don't even I don't want to do it today.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
I know that you have a nice piece of Ohio
state memorabilia that might already be in the dumpster in
your basement. Yes, that doesn't have a place on the wall.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
It doesn't.

Speaker 6 (31:35):
I'll take it off your hands. Okay, it might be
the thing dumpsterday. Let this be my contribution.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Okay, Well your contribution would probably be coming over and
help loading the dumpster.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Well I have to be paid to do that.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
You'd be paid with memorabilia. Oh it's bad. Like you
send a couple of text out like family members and
they just none of them text back. Yeah, no, hell okay,
if anyone's got any time, and then it's just islands.
You don't hear a thing from anybody.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
I do have one. This day in sports history it
out are you ready for? It was on this day
in nineteen seventy oh that the Sydney Yellow Jackets completed
their run of dominance oh thirty consecutive victories. The Yellow
Jackets and the seniors in that class didn't lose in

(32:25):
the eighth grade, so they went something like forty games
in a row. That's crazy without loving, that is insane.
So today, right now, Sydney Memorial Stadium thirty and Oh
Field is where all the games are played, named after
those great teams and Field.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yes, it is Sydney Memorial Stadium thirty and Oh Field,
Oh my gosh. And it's uh down.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh, that's got to be a lot. No, Sydney Stadium,
Sydney Memorial thirty and Oh Stadium.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Thirty Field, Oh my god. Sydney Memorial Stadium, thirty and
Oh Field. Okay, what's wrong with that?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Nothing? Honor the legacy live in the present. Man. That
would never happen at Veterans Memorial Stadium. Yeah, you're just
talking about veterans. Oh, we weren't talking about what the
teams did and this and that just anyway. Congratulations, Happy anniversary.
This day in.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Sports history, shout out to the Shout out to Sydney
Man seventy team who went to Sydney Memorial thirty and
Oh Fields. No Sydney Memorial Stadium at thirty and oh Field.
It's like Geha Field at Arrowhead.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
YEP, I got it now. Yeah, I'm gonna use that
going forward.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
I don't know that we've gotten thirty wins since nineteen seventy.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
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Speaker 3 (34:28):
Was looking for Mo.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Moe's in the house. He's getting ready for the Mullagger Show.
ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. How you doing, Mo,
I'm really good. I'm really good. How about you guys? Okay?

Speaker 6 (34:37):
Are you can turn the ball? Jalen Brunson? I am
any good report yet he was seen exiting Madison Square
Garden wearing crutches. He should not have been in the
game when he got hurt. They should have pulled him.
Next those last night, first time at home all year long?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Next have lost bulls have lost a lot. Yeah, Shine's
coming off that a little bit as well. So nothing
from you guys about my big news on LinkedIn having
an back LinkedIn yet? Just what happened?

Speaker 4 (35:03):
Are you something about employee of the year something?

Speaker 6 (35:08):
I have been named vice president of strategic content for
the Moegger Show. Really yeah, who's the president? Well we
haven't figured that out yet. Okay, we did get a
talkback from you.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Oh can we just share someone is going through audio
clips of you. This is the second time he's done
it and putting together conversations and talk back for him.
I can't wait to hear this. This is Mike and
Independence here with talkback.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
MO.

Speaker 6 (35:40):
Well, pour water into our hands and drink it like
you're in a lake or something.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Oh you have a cup? Not not now, actual cups?
What about all those cups in the closet.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
We have cups?

Speaker 6 (35:55):
I will I will probably not outlive our cup supply.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
That's how many cups we have.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
And it is glorious, just over the sheer volume of cups.
And I just I wanted to get that out of
the way.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
This gentleman is just randomly going through and splicing conversations
you've had. So maybe that's your content guy, what's it
could be? He could be the president of strategic content,
not just content.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Into this all right. We also had a talkbacker today
mode that wanted to congratulate you for being named a
finalist for the Tony Pikes iHeartMedia Employee of the Year Award.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Well, I'm pretty I'm pretty stoked about this. We find
out on December the third at the Christmas party here
if I've won the award.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
I told you yesterday I've been nominated twice. Who's won
of the previous years.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
Oh, Ryan Seacrest won it one year and Clay Travis. Okay, yeah,
so I'm I'm do you know who you're up against?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
I haven't really.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
Seen everybody that I'm up against, but it's a it's
a prestigious uh US. They're waiting to see if the
people who have been nominated are still work here.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I mean, don guys, what you got on your show today.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Let's see, we're gonna talk about Saturday. We were just
having this conversation off here. You see plays BYU a
week from Saturday. A lot of folks seemingly glossing over
the fact that Bearcats do have a game this Saturday
against Arizona. I am worried about this game because I
hated how the Bearcats played against Utah. Now you could say,
well the Utes remember bad matchup? Yeah, terrible match When

(37:25):
a team loses, bad matchup, Okay, I thought the Bearcats
got in their own way. I am concerned that that
is going to be the norm moving forward. I think
a lot of folks are overlooking Arizona. We're going to
spend some time on that. I want to know if
al Golden can satisfy a very basic request, very basic
and simple request. I will tell you what that request is,

(37:48):
and I'm gonna see if I can get a job
on the Reds coaching staff.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Well, that's it's not the hardest thing to do.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
The Reds have fifteen coaches listed on their coaching staff.
They have an assistant bench coach.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Got to use that money somewhere.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
What does the assistant is assistant bench coach like euphemism
for bat boy. What is the assistant bench coach too?
We're paying Terry francona like five million dollars. He's got
a bench coach. Okay, assistant bench coach? Does he keep
book the bench the bubblegum bucket? So I hear a
lot about job numbers and the economy is not great.

(38:22):
I'll tell you what job market's really good if you're
a baseball coach anywhere near Cincinnati. So we'll riff on
that a little bit too. Plus, uh, Lee Starling is
gonna join us money Chad Brendle, Robert wine Troup, Dan Klaskins,
Jay Morrison, and we're gonna talk about Joe Burrow with
one of the experts from Ortho Sincy as well.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Okay, what do you make of the NFL wanting the
union to stop with the report cards?

Speaker 6 (38:46):
As many have speculated and said, rich people don't like
being made fun of.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Crazy right now? Crazy If if you don't.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
Want failing grades, don't fail, right, If you don't want
an F from your players, would he? And if you
don't want an F, if you don't want bad grades
from your players, from your coat, from your workers, treat.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Them well, yeah, it's crazy. One oder one owner toty ESPN.
The only owners who don't care for it are the
ones who get the subpar grades.

Speaker 6 (39:12):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Funny how that works. It is interesting how that the
owners to take care of everything or like yeah, fine,
give the report cards exactly.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
It could also be like a really good thing for them.
Yeah they if they did it, like you know, they
don't nobally looks at it that way.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
We also had the discussion schemes skewball when Cy Young?
Why does Major League Baseball continue to just take the
back seat to everything, Like why not have a true
awards show? Like it's just it's always an afterthought. The
draft is an afterthought. Everything they do just seemingly falls.
Would you watch a baseball award show. I think if
if you had, if you had Otani and Judge and

(39:50):
the MVP candidates in the same room, I would probably
tune in and listen to some of it.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
What about like on a night like last night, watched
the football Awards. I don't watch award show A slow
night a Wednesday, no no hoops on. I mean Major
League Baseball MLB network did do like an award show
for those individual awards and had all the finalists interviewed.
Would you really watch a baseball award show based on

(40:15):
what was on last night? Probably Miami Toledo football. The
Knicks were on.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
That was a bad game, Miami back to back MAC losses.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
I feel like if they presented it kind of like
the way that the NFL does, where it is like
a big production, but.

Speaker 6 (40:27):
They because everybody goes to the super Bowl. Everybody's there
for the Super Bowl. I know, like if they reason
to do that Vegas and handout American League saw Young Award.
Here's Olivia Rodrigo handing out the I don't know why.
Here's Sidney Sweeney, She's got the Manager of the Year award.
Really we won a baseball award show?

Speaker 4 (40:49):
It would be pretty funny to see Terry Francona accept
an award from Sydney show.

Speaker 6 (40:53):
What d list celebrities would they jets? Here's doctor Oz.
Doctor Oz is going to be presenting the Bigue Rookie.
That would be the level of celeb you would get.
You would get like these hack like you know pop
artists from the early two thousands, right, that's what you
would hear. Here are the guys from bb MAC a
couple of handing out the American League MVP Award. You

(41:18):
guys think there would be a baseball award show that
anybody would?

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I love baseball.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
In the middle of November, We're gonna get all these
baseball players together in the middle of their offseason and
get together to hand out each hand each other hardware.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Why do they separate it out to like week to
week to week that I don't know I have?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I have absolutely so sorry to throw cold water, right
never mind, never mind fight for your idea, Tony I did.
I thought I'd just watch it.

Speaker 6 (41:47):
Geez, Here comes Taloni as she presents the National League
Comeback Player of.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
The Year Most Valuable Player. Why do we have two MVPs?
We don't have agree that we don't have.

Speaker 6 (42:01):
We don't have Eastern Conference MVP in the NBA, we
don't have AFC MVP and football. It's another outdated It
is an outdated thing. We don't really have American League
and National League as separate entities. Why do we have
two MVPs? Good point, But I guess if you're gonna
have an award show, you need more. Award care do
we have to come up with more? I guess need more.
Here is the pinch Hitter of the Year, could sell it,

(42:21):
could sponsor it, presenting the awards. Ellen Rock from Ferris
Bueller's Day Off.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Uh, your money right now? Who you take to win
the Super Bowl? That's a terrific question. Are you surprised?

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Are we allowed to do that? Locks of the Night?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Well, the odds on favorite right now is Kansas City,
not even right now and not even in the playoffs.
They are right now the betting favorite to win the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
La rams I said the other day, you're gonna win
the NLUs seven hundred. Yeah, I'll take LA plus seven hundred,
win the.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Whole thing, Tampa Bay plus twenty five enticing.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
That's really good value. Yeah, that's really good plus getting
a little bit healthier this week. Yeah, than Tampa Bay
Bengals are what plus thirty thousand is that to win Sunday?
But that happened before Al Golden was seen stretching yesterday.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
It is true.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
I would imagine that Plummets, Burrow back, Golden stretches, Bengals
are back in it.

Speaker 6 (43:11):
I want to mention more celebrities that your pretending Baseball
Awards show.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Oh Mo's Rocket a Baseball is fun show today, trying
to make it more fun now to present.

Speaker 6 (43:22):
The second basement of the year in the National League West.
It's Jenna Elfman from Dharma and Greg. Everybody gather in Portland, Oregon.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
For the highest ranking celebrity they could get, so like
Ray Romano.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
Ray Romana would be like a good or his wife
from that show he was on Everybody Loves Rag, Jimmy
Fallon with the Yankees hat. Yeah, you're not getting a
listers to come to the November Baseball Award show in
Albuquerque or wherever they would have it.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
I bet Mary Heart would a do an award.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
That would be okay. I would be alright with that.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
I like about who Kevin Fraser, Oh, Kevin former.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
UC basketball announcer Kevin Fraser from Entertainment Tonight.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, Okay, I'm done. We have a great show.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
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great Thursday.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
So you see k Y Cincinnati.

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