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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Attorney Dunn and Biles joins us, here comes that indictment
(00:02):
again done him. Evidently this one is is a little
bit shorter, more succinct. But what can you do to
change it that's going to, you know, overrule what the
Supreme Court has already decided on presidential immunity.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, it's a little shorter, it's still unacceptable. In my
humble estimation, he's now tried to get rid of all
references to act that were clearly presidential. I don't think
he's done it. They're still in there. I mean, he's
still talking about the president talking to the vice president
(00:41):
about what to do as the head of the Senate.
I don't I don't understand how that's not in his
assistics facity he's talking. They talk about a meeting he
had in the Oval Office. I don't know, but it
seems to me that he was acting in his presidential
capacity doing those things. And then this is really frustrating
me reading this, because it seems to me he goes
(01:03):
through state by state, and perhaps Jack Smith isn't familiar
with our First Amendment, but the First Amendment, one of
our rights is to petition our government for redress fairly
important part of the First Amendment. And what he's saying
is that Trump and others asked the legislatures of Georgia
and Michigan and these other states to take certain actions. Well,
(01:23):
that's your right. That's what we get to do. Whether
you think it's what you're asking is not proper or illegal,
doesn't matter. You get to petition your government to take action.
That's what they did. That's clearly protected by the First Amendment.
I just it was frustrating reading.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, that's not the point of it. That doesn't seem
to be the point of it. The point is to
get the headlines and get the talking heads to talk
about it and say it Troup and died, it drops guilty.
He's a criminal, and just in time to affect the vote.
So how is this not election interference? Big time?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh, I have serious problems with I wouldn't sign this.
I don't think any lawyer should sign off this, and
I definitely don't think a prosecutor should sign off on it.
Prosecutors have even higher ethical obligations to US civil litigators.
Their job is to do justice and not try to
just win cases and not try to create creative series
supposed to apply the law equally. I don't. I don't
(02:19):
see how you can say with the straight face that
he's doing that. This seems to agree.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
With you completely.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
This is politics, and that's disgusting. This is not what
we use our criminal justice system to do.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And of course the irony of all this done them
is that they are charging Trump with election interference. By
committing election interference.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I can't disagree with you. It's sad. It's a sad day.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But it's in the DC Court, and it's in the
DC Court in front of Chutkin, who is a flaming
left liberal. You know, there's no justice in d C.
So it's going to have to play out.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I think this is going to happen. This we kind
of land up back in Supreme Court. Before this plays out,
they're gonna have to take up this issue of immunity.
Then it will get appealed to the Intermediate Court and
then if then it may be appealed to the Supreme Court.
And so this is gonna take some time, just dealing
with immunity issues again, because I think some of them
(03:19):
are still there.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So yep, right, and that's.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Right right, they know that, and yet he's gonna presumably
ask for a schedule, that it's going to pretend like
they're going to get this case tried anytime soon. And
that's not realistic, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Sure well, we're back, Yeah, we're back to Shirt's point
that this is just so they can say he's been
indicted again.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, are lawfare? It's political?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Sure enough, Thank you sir, appreciate your time this morning.
Thanks for getting up Storry. That's attorney done and Biles
it's five fifty six.
Attorney Dunn and Biles joins us, here comes that indictment
(00:02):
again done him. Evidently this one is is a little
bit shorter, more succinct. But what can you do to
change it that's going to, you know, overrule what the
Supreme Court has already decided on presidential immunity.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, it's a little shorter, it's still unacceptable. In my
humble estimation, he's now tried to get rid of all
references to act that were clearly presidential. I don't think
he's done it. They're still in there. I mean, he's
still talking about the president talking to the vice president
(00:41):
about what to do as the head of the Senate.
I don't I don't understand how that's not in his
assistics facity he's talking. They talk about a meeting he
had in the Oval Office. I don't know, but it
seems to me that he was acting in his presidential
capacity doing those things. And then this is really frustrating
me reading this, because it seems to me he goes
(01:03):
through state by state, and perhaps Jack Smith isn't familiar
with our First Amendment, but the First Amendment, one of
our rights is to petition our government for redress fairly
important part of the First Amendment. And what he's saying
is that Trump and others asked the legislatures of Georgia
and Michigan and these other states to take certain actions. Well,
(01:23):
that's your right. That's what we get to do. Whether
you think it's what you're asking is not proper or illegal,
doesn't matter. You get to petition your government to take action.
That's what they did. That's clearly protected by the First Amendment.
I just it was frustrating reading.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, that's not the point of it. That doesn't seem
to be the point of it. The point is to
get the headlines and get the talking heads to talk
about it and say it Troup and died, it drops guilty.
He's a criminal, and just in time to affect the vote.
So how is this not election interference? Big time?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh, I have serious problems with I wouldn't sign this.
I don't think any lawyer should sign off this, and
I definitely don't think a prosecutor should sign off on it.
Prosecutors have even higher ethical obligations to US civil litigators.
Their job is to do justice and not try to
just win cases and not try to create creative series
supposed to apply the law equally. I don't. I don't
(02:19):
see how you can say with the straight face that
he's doing that. This seems to agree.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
With you completely.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
This is politics, and that's disgusting. This is not what
we use our criminal justice system to do.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And of course the irony of all this done them
is that they are charging Trump with election interference. By
committing election interference.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I can't disagree with you. It's sad. It's a sad day.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But it's in the DC Court, and it's in the
DC Court in front of Chutkin, who is a flaming
left liberal. You know, there's no justice in d C.
So it's going to have to play out.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I think this is going to happen. This we kind
of land up back in Supreme Court. Before this plays out,
they're gonna have to take up this issue of immunity.
Then it will get appealed to the Intermediate Court and
then if then it may be appealed to the Supreme Court.
And so this is gonna take some time, just dealing
with immunity issues again, because I think some of them
(03:19):
are still there.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So yep, right, and that's.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Right right, they know that, and yet he's gonna presumably
ask for a schedule, that it's going to pretend like
they're going to get this case tried anytime soon. And
that's not realistic, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Sure well, we're back, Yeah, we're back to Shirt's point
that this is just so they can say he's been
indicted again.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, are lawfare? It's political?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Sure enough, Thank you sir, appreciate your time this morning.
Thanks for getting up Storry. That's attorney done and Biles
it's five fifty six.
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