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Former Navy seal, former special agentwith the FBI, author Jonathan Gilliam joins
us to talk about what happened onSaturday in Pennsylvania. A lot of Monday
morning quarterbacking going on. Jonathan,what is your what is your thoughts about
how that went and where the securitylapses almost led to a tragedy. Well,
first off, let me just saythis record. They just said that
(00:21):
doctor Ruth died two days ago andI tried to get her to write the
intro to my book, but shewas too busy. But she was actually
a sniper in Israeli Haganah. Nowhow amazing is that? And yeah,
she I think she has more killsthan a lot of the guys that I
know, than the FIA. Andmost people never knew that. Most people
(00:42):
never knew that about doctor Wow.Okay, So getting back to this,
right, you know from the fromwhen you look at this from the experts
point of view and you have experiencein this. And this is the problem
with social media is everybody thinks thatthey're an expert when you watch the videos
(01:03):
of what occurred, and then youstart asking the questions of how did this
occur? How did that shooter geton that building, you see something that
we use an investigation called the totalityof the evidence. And it is unbelievable
because that was a failure from thetime they started hiring people, from the
(01:26):
training, from the way they didthe threat assessment for that event, all
the way through to the point wherethe President was finally in a vehicle on
pulling off. It was one failureafter another. And I just I've been
shocked, and it's hard for meto actually verbalize it because I've never seen
(01:47):
anything like this from an agency that'ssupposed to be considered elite in protecting dignitaries
and presidents and sadly the rest ofthe world. Season two and now we
uh, we should we have confidencein the FBI and the DHS doing the
investigation. I mean DHS is incharge now. The Secret Service comes under
(02:13):
the under DHS. It used tobe the Treasury, now they're under DHS.
I don't feel comfortable with that becauseDHS has so many issues the FBI
when it's come when it comes toTrump that in the d o J,
they they don't have a good recordof fair and balanced investigations. They seem
to get political very quick and allfaith has been lost in the FBI.
(02:35):
Just yesterday they released a press releasesaying that they using verbiage. It was
very strange. We don't see anyor we don't have any evidence or other
shooters. No, we we seeno evidence of ideological bend. We we
don't have evidence that he had mentalissues. Well, it's only been a
(02:58):
day and investigation is just starting.Why do they need to release that information.
It's no information. It's like tellingme telling you there's no known threat
at this event. That doesn't tellyou anything, and telling you this could
be a potential that this group couldattack here. That tells you what to
look out for. But the informationthat's coming out of the Bureau is scrubb
(03:21):
I can already see that it's scrubbed, and it's made to look like they're
doing a tremendous amount of work,and I don't like that image. It
makes me nervous that they're going tobe able to do this makes us nervous
too. Wish we had more timewith you, Jonathan, Thanks for joining
us. We appreciate it. That'sauthor former Davy Seal and FBI special Agent Jonathan Gilliam
Former Navy seal, former special agentwith the FBI, author Jonathan Gilliam joins
us to talk about what happened onSaturday in Pennsylvania. A lot of Monday
morning quarterbacking going on. Jonathan,what is your what is your thoughts about
how that went and where the securitylapses almost led to a tragedy. Well,
first off, let me just saythis record. They just said that
(00:21):
doctor Ruth died two days ago andI tried to get her to write the
intro to my book, but shewas too busy. But she was actually
a sniper in Israeli Haganah. Nowhow amazing is that? And yeah,
she I think she has more killsthan a lot of the guys that I
know, than the FIA. Andmost people never knew that. Most people
(00:42):
never knew that about doctor Wow.Okay, So getting back to this,
right, you know from the fromwhen you look at this from the experts
point of view and you have experiencein this. And this is the problem
with social media is everybody thinks thatthey're an expert when you watch the videos
(01:03):
of what occurred, and then youstart asking the questions of how did this
occur? How did that shooter geton that building, you see something that
we use an investigation called the totalityof the evidence. And it is unbelievable
because that was a failure from thetime they started hiring people, from the
(01:26):
training, from the way they didthe threat assessment for that event, all
the way through to the point wherethe President was finally in a vehicle on
pulling off. It was one failureafter another. And I just I've been
shocked, and it's hard for meto actually verbalize it because I've never seen
(01:47):
anything like this from an agency that'ssupposed to be considered elite in protecting dignitaries
and presidents and sadly the rest ofthe world. Season two and now we
uh, we should we have confidencein the FBI and the DHS doing the
investigation. I mean DHS is incharge now. The Secret Service comes under
(02:13):
the under DHS. It used tobe the Treasury, now they're under DHS.
I don't feel comfortable with that becauseDHS has so many issues the FBI
when it's come when it comes toTrump that in the d o J,
they they don't have a good recordof fair and balanced investigations. They seem
to get political very quick and allfaith has been lost in the FBI.
(02:35):
Just yesterday they released a press releasesaying that they using verbiage. It was
very strange. We don't see anyor we don't have any evidence or other
shooters. No, we we seeno evidence of ideological bend. We we
don't have evidence that he had mentalissues. Well, it's only been a
(02:58):
day and investigation is just starting.Why do they need to release that information.
It's no information. It's like tellingme telling you there's no known threat
at this event. That doesn't tellyou anything, and telling you this could
be a potential that this group couldattack here. That tells you what to
look out for. But the informationthat's coming out of the Bureau is scrubb
(03:21):
I can already see that it's scrubbed, and it's made to look like they're
doing a tremendous amount of work,and I don't like that image. It
makes me nervous that they're going tobe able to do this makes us nervous
too. Wish we had more timewith you, Jonathan, Thanks for joining
us. We appreciate it. That'sauthor former Davy Seal and FBI special Agent Jonathan Gilliam
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