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June 23, 2025 5 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the biggest story in the world right now. KI
nuclear and Richmond facilities have been completely and totally obliterated
around the bully of the Middle East must now make peace.
If they do not, future attacks would be.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Far greater and a lot easier. There.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
You know, President Trump said they've been obliterated, their nuclear
facilities have been come to the negotiating table. But is
there a negotiating table or was it blown up amidst
the rubble of the attacks. On Saturday, former FBI Special
Agent Navy Seal Jonathan Gilliam with reaction with us this morning. Jonathan,
thanks for the time, sir.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey, good to be with you, Good to have you.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
What was your reaction. Were you as surprised as the
rest of the world on Saturday when the diversion and
distraction by President Trump has played out so perfectly? Well?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I thought it was all the right things. I mean,
the very fact that we can't have secret bombers and
secret bomb places is kind of remarkable. But the fact
that they were able to pull it off and full
the media, who was watching the runways like hawks, I
thought that was first of all, I thought that was amazing.
The process of these bombers flying round trip thirty hours

(01:11):
over there, coordinating their attack with the whole aspect of it,
the refueling, meeting up with the other aircraft. There's so
much in this, the coordination of this attack, that people
don't realize how incredible it really was to get over
there and do this. But I think it marks a

(01:33):
significant time for the not just the United States, but
for the world because President Trump, like he did with
the tariffs, he uses the power that he has not
for his own gain, not for political gain. He used
it in a way that made America safer and made

(01:54):
the world a better place. And when it comes to Iran,
this is very very important thing for people to realize,
is that they have been allowed to get as powerful
as they are now. Their power exists in proxies and
the use of terrorism and almost nuclear weapons, and they've
been allowed to do that. Havn't been in the military

(02:17):
and in law enforcement. You know, I was in government
for twenty years and I was told, you can go
and watch on television all these generals that are on
there talking about this or that about Iran. They were
told to lie twenty years ago by people who were
told alive for twenty years about Iran that they were
this all powerful, all fearing thing, and so the entire

(02:37):
time I was doing counter terrorism, we were terrified of
what Iran could do. But as you can see, what
Israel has proven and what President Trump has proven, is
that a lot of what that fear was was promoted
through a paper tiger that looks way worse on paper
than they are now. They're capable of terrorist attacks, cyber attacks,

(03:01):
and that's what we should be ready for. But overall,
the strength of Iran was in their propaganda and in
their intelligence service to create an image of something that
they're not.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
We're talking with Jonathan Gilliam, Navy seal and a former
FBI special agent. Do you fear or are you concerned
about anything from Russia or China?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, I did see yesterday a report that some one
of the individuals from Russia said that they would supply
Iran with nuclear warheads. I mean, that's a direct threat
to the rest of the world. That bothers me greatly.
I think right now, what American people don't understand is
that Israel has a vast amount of control over Iran.

(03:45):
They have their airspace is completely controlled, and I think
we don't need boots on the ground. That technology or
that era of fighting hasn't completely passed, but the ability
to hit tax targets to gain a strategic foothold is
there because of our technology. I think Iran's navy should

(04:08):
be taken out. I think anywhere the ier GC that's
their military, anywhere we see them, they should be taken out.
And the borders of Iran should be locked down by
somebody in order to keep those people from spreading. And
at the same time, this country here in the United States,
we've had law enforcement agencies decimated, and so our law

(04:33):
enforcement agencies need to step up their game and start
looking at potential for these attacks and the cells that
could and I would assume are most likely here. But
the good thing is the more decimated Iran becomes, I
would think that the less motivated these individuals would be

(04:53):
to do anything in the name of Iran.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
I would think you were right, and I would certainly
hope that is the case as well. President Trump is
obviously banking on that being the case. Jonathan Gilliam retired
or excuse me, former FBI A special Agent retired seal,
thank you so much for the insight in the analysis. Sir,
we appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
You got it, my friend, Thank you, God bless you.
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