TOM HOMAN – FORMER ACTING ICE DIRECTOR UNDER TRUMP, Joins Houston Morning News, May 30th, 2024

Episode Transcript

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Five point fifty three now here inHouston's Bonning News. But a quarter of
the Border patrol workforce has quit sincethe twenty twenty election. I assume they're
quitting, Tom Holman, or arethey taking other positions in the other areas
of the US government. Are theyjust outright quitting, some are transferring,
some are quitting, some are retiringearly. You know, the morales and

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lulls has ever been. The moraleis not existent, So you know,
I can't blame them. The menand women are wearing a uniform can enforce
the law. The way they're trainingto enforce the law. They can't do
their job. They can't up forthe alls, the alls they took to
secure the vorter enforce the law there. You know, several I've talked to
hundreds of them. I go tothe voter a lot. They just they

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think they're uber drivers, they're tourstations, because all they do is process
people and send them on their wayinto the United States and the direction of
DHS. And after years of doingthat kind of work, you pretty much
can spot the people who really needhelp and the people who are really as
we say now gaming this system.As the current border chief is now saying,

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he said, well, yeah,some game the system, but it's
got to be not just morale depressing, but for entire families too. These
people have families and children. Yeah, you know, and Borbito just know
what I know. The data isclear that if you look at the immigration
court data over the last ten years, it clearly show us nearly nine out

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of ten people that claim asylum atour border never get relief from the US
courts because they either don't show upor they don't qualify. So the borbitual
knows nine out of ten of thesepeople they're released in the United States have
no right to be the United Stateshave a fraudulent side of the claim.
They will be ordered removed. However, they'll be in the wind, no
one can find them, and ICEthey know that ICE has been directed.

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They can't arrest somebody for simply beinghere illegally. They got to be convicted
of a serious crime. So theyknow that any game is people that don't
deserve to be here, have nolegal right to be here, and have
been ordered removed aren't going anywhere.And and you're exactly right, that's that's
that's the main reason that morales soldall these these these men and women can't
do the right thing for this government, and and and and not only that,

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the amount of overtime being spent.You're exactly right. They're spending less
time of their families. The NorthernBorder agents have been detailed to the Southern
border for months upon months and notwith their families, especially during graduations and
weddings and so forth. So they'rehitting at both sides. The Northern Border
and Southern Border are both Morales structure. Yeah, it's just like trying to
be a police officer of these days, isn't it. You're not allowed to

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do your job. And when youdo your job, you know that once
the equiminal goes to the court system, they're just gonna be let go once
again. It's it's frustrating. Yeah, you know, they were you know,
they see me down a lot.They recognize me from you know,
being on Fox, and they knewI was the ice structor, and they
all come up to me and they'lltalk to me, and the only advice
I can give is try to hangin there, Richaud. I think in

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January we'll have a new president,and I think in January you'll be allowed
to do the job that you knowyou wanted to do. You be allowed
to enforce law and up all theoath you took to secure this country.
These men and women, despite everythinggoing on, you know, you got
to applaud the ones that are standingthere. They're still putting that gun under
hip every day and putting that kevlarvest on to do the best for the
country, even though they're not doingthe job they're paid to do. So,

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you know, God bless you toeveryone. But you know something no
want to talks about. There's beenover twenty suicides in the Borg Show under
this administration. I think I've beentwenty four right now, which is the
highest percentage of suicide for any mom. For course, you're breaking up all
We'll have to let you go.Tom, you're breaking up on your cell

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phone. But thank you so muchfor joining us today. We appreciate it.
I'm acting ICE Director under President Trump. That's Tom Holman. It's five
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