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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Very Show is on the air.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
The question is, foul Helm, we are you lying then?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Are you lying now? Or are you not? In fact
a chronic and habitual liar.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
When you hear the term fake news, you probably think
about how it's used often today by President Trump. But
it's actually an old term used by the Soviet Union
as a reference to disinformation campaigns that the Soviets and
now the Russians have long used to destabilize the West.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
US officials have warned that Russian interference remains an active
threat for the twenty twenty presidential elections.

Speaker 6 (00:43):
Why can't you see what you do to me.

Speaker 7 (00:51):
When you don't believe the world.

Speaker 6 (00:54):
Say, CNN is scum, MSDNNGUS scum, The New York Times
is scum.

Speaker 7 (01:00):
We can't go to get us suspicious. We can't all suspicious.

Speaker 8 (01:16):
Rudy Giuliani already had open contact with a person that
the US has called an agent for the Kremlin. Now
we are being told by two people who've been briefed
on what the FBI is doing that they're looking into
whether these unverified emails about Hunter Biden that were published
earlier this week by The New York Post about his

(01:37):
business dealings in Ukraine and China are part of this
bigger Russian disinformation effort in the twenty twenty election.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
CNN is scum, msdnzs scum. The New York Times is scumb.

Speaker 7 (01:50):
You can't go.

Speaker 9 (01:54):
Suspicious, we can, oh, God, President Trump will be at
Mount Rushmore, where he'll be standing in front of a
monument of two slave owners and on land wrestled away

(02:16):
from Native Americans.

Speaker 10 (02:18):
We do have now some of the sound. As I
told you, we're not in the audience. We're not carrying
his remarks live because, frankly, he says a lot of
things that are not true and sometimes potentially dangerous.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
CNN is scum, MSDNZ is scum. The New York Times
is scum.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell
you the truth and FU if you can't handle the truth.
This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically is the best.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Biden ever, looking at the images and looking at what
was actually damaged. The Defense Intelligence Agency has assessed that
the core composedonents of Iron's nuclear program are largely intact,
and that Iron's nuclear program has essentially only been set
back by months.

Speaker 7 (03:14):
I came, I cam.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Let's assume you're a fan of a particular baseball team,
maybe the New York Yankees or Colorado Rockies, Houston Astros,
whatever that may be. If you go to your rival
team's fan base and you walk out on the field

(03:55):
and you say the greatest player of all time is,
and you say a player from your team, there's a
decent chance the fans will boo you because their favorite
player is from this team. It doesn't mean that you're
necessarily wrong. It means that as you change the audience,
you change the values the experiences. We have now reached

(04:19):
a critical mass in this country where immigrants, many of
them illegal but not all, have saturated our major urban
environments to such an extent that you can no longer
campaign on American values and win. The white liberals ushered

(04:45):
in this era, but what they did not realize is
that they were riding a tiger that would get out
of control and even turn on them. You saw Andrew
CMO's loss to this crazy nut Muslim socialist in New York,
and this is happening across the country. It is happening

(05:07):
across the country you've seen it with white liberals who
we desperately needed our first black mayor, and the guy
comes in and he turns on the white liberals and
it's too late at that point.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
It's too late.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
That has happened to every major city in America today,
and it all goes back to who's going to live
in your country. America is a nation of people, not
mountains and rivers. America is a nation of people. And
when you change out those people, this is the great

(05:43):
replacement theory. You change out the values. You cannot just
assume that because someone comes to our country, they're going
to share our values. And when you had a melting pot,
that meant you could have a little sage over here
and a little allspice over here, and it would all

(06:04):
meld into the greater whole. The dominant culture that made
America what it was would continue whether you mixed blacks
or Browns or Asians, or there would be the understanding
that we were American first. But when you flood the
zone and overwhelm the system with adults who have their

(06:30):
own language, religion, culture, values, and they come in such
large numbers that they don't need to integrate, you change
the very tenor the very nature of your country. I'm
reminded of rush Limbaw's what he called the Limbaugh Laws

(06:50):
on immigration. Listen to this.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Everybody's making immigration proposals these days. Let me add mine
to the mix. Call it the Limbaugh Laws. First, you
immigrate to our country, you have to speak the native language.
You have to be a professional or an investor. No
unskilled workers allowed. Also, there'll be no special bilingual programs
in the schools with the Limball Laws, no special ballots
for elections. No government business will be conducted in your language.

(07:16):
Foreigners will not have the right to vote or hold
political office. If you're in our country, you cannot be
a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled to welfare
or food stamps or other government goodies. You can come
if you invest here an amount equal to forty thousand
times a daily minimum wage. If not, stay home. But
if you want to buy land, it'll be restricted. No waterfront,

(07:37):
for instance. And as a foreigner, you have to relinquish
individual rights to the property. And another thing, you don't
have the right to protest. You're allowed no demonstrations, no
foreign flag waving, no political organizing, no bad mouthing our
president or his policies. You're a foreigner, shut your mouth
or get out. And if you come here illegally, you're

(07:57):
going to jail. You think the Limball laws are harsh, well,
every one of the laws I just mentioned are actual
laws of Mexico today. That's how the Mexican government handles
immigrants to their country. Yet Mexicans come here illegally and
protest in our streets. How do you say double standard
in Spanish? How about no moss.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Michael Berry show, Oh Daddy, suit me with your smaw.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I wish you could see the video of this exchange
we're about to play for you, because it really adds
to the experience. But let me step back and say,
if you've ever had a friend who's married to a

(08:59):
lat and they have a son who's young, you've no
doubt had the awkward experience of the fact that when
the mother who's the wife of your friend is flirting

(09:22):
with your friend her husband, she will refer to him
as poppy. But she will also when her son falls
and skins his knees, say oh poppy, And you think,
wait a minute, you can't call your your kid by
the same kind of sexy, seductive name you call your husband.

(09:46):
This is weird, but it is done well. There is
a lesser used but still common reference to daddy in
English and in English culture, really more white people culture,

(10:07):
and that is a kind of a who's your daddy
sort of thing. And I'll keep this clean, but but
it is. It is kind of a bedroom lingo.

Speaker 11 (10:21):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (10:21):
It is.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Also it's also made it into the streets where you know,
when you're basically you know, used to when I was
growing up, you'd say, say, uncle, my brother would jump
on me, pin my arms back, and take his knuckle
and pound it onto my sternum. And it was unbearable
and it wouldn't stop until you said, uncle, Well that's

(10:45):
that's turned into daddy or who's your daddy? And rappers
will use this phrase any in any case, lest it
get any more weird. There's a reason that I bring
this up, and that's because it made its way into
a Donald Trump press conference. Now, as I said, I

(11:05):
wish you could see the video of this exchange because
Marco Rubio is standing behind President Trump and the conversation
relates to his visit to the Hague and NATO. As
luck would have it, today as the eighty year anniversary
of the founding of NATO, where fifty allies signed a

(11:30):
document in San Francisco, California, as World War Two was
coming to an end that was basically a joint packed
we will not allow to happen what has happened. We
will be joined together. NATO went off the rails along
the way, as did the United Nations after World War One.

(11:52):
But in any case, so the president visits the Hague,
you'll understand the moment. Marco Rubio is is rather young
for a Secretary of State, and he looks really young.
So there he is over Trump's shoulder, kind of to
the side because he's a lot shorter than Trump, and
he's trying to be very serious because this is international

(12:13):
diplomacy we're talking about here. And a reporter named Mark
root or Rut. I'm sorry, that's not the reporter's name.
I actually don't know if I have the reporter's name.
He asks about the fact that Mark root or Rut,
the chief of NATO, called Donald Trump daddy, and then

(12:35):
he asked, do you regard your NATO allies as children?

Speaker 7 (12:41):
Which this is the.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Kind of stuff that makes for good evening TV. Otherwise
it's all boring. International diplomacy's kind of boring. Bombs are
interesting because he got the video of but otherwise it's boring.
A visit to the Hague very boring. Rubio is trying
very hard to be serious and you know, to look
like a secretary of state be taken, you know, when
all of a sudden they asked this question and Rubio

(13:04):
cannot keep it together and Trump never breaks character as
too much introduction for this segment. My apologies for this audio.

Speaker 12 (13:14):
But here you go, Mark Ritter, the NATO chief, who
is your friend? He called you daddy earlier. Do you
regard your NATO allies as kind of children?

Speaker 6 (13:27):
No, he likes me. I think he likes me. If
he doesn't, I'll let you know.

Speaker 13 (13:30):
I'll come back and I'll hit him hard.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
Okay, he did, he did it.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
Very affectionate. Daddy here, my daddy.

Speaker 12 (13:36):
Do you regard your NATO allies though, as kind of
like children? And they're obviously listening to you, and they're
spending more, and you're you're obviously appreciative of that, But
do you hope that actually they're going to be able
to defend themselves, defend Europe on their own with it.

Speaker 7 (13:52):
I think they need help a little bit at the beginning.
That whole.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Tunner is not lost on Donald Trump. I will leave
that there. Since President Trump in his frustration with Iran,
and I think at that moment he's really frustrated with Israel,
it was like you know your mom when she's driving
and you're in the back and one of you punches
the other one. Ever since he's dropped this, this little nugget,

(14:21):
it's been parodied all over social media, inserted into songs, looped,
it is everywhere.

Speaker 14 (14:29):
Two countries that have been fighting so long and so
hard that they don't know what the they're doing?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Do you understand that?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Not to be outdone by social media, it appears Sesame
Street got in on the action.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Hello, kids are welcome. We have a special guest with
us today. It's the President of the United States, mister
Donald J.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
Trump.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Now, mister President. Today, the kids are learning words that
end in uck. Could you give us a sentence with
the word that ends in up?

Speaker 14 (15:25):
They don't know what the they're doing, Oh.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Mister President, mister President, Now, we're a g rated show.
Is there any other words you can think of that
end and up?

Speaker 14 (15:35):
They don't know what the truck they're doing.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Hey, that's a good one, like a fire truck. Any
other words that end and nuck you can think of,
mister President.

Speaker 14 (15:42):
They don't know what the duck they're doing. They don't
know what the luck they're doing. They don't know what
the muck. They don't know what the buck they're doing.
They don't know what the clock, They don't know what
the rock they're doing. They don't know what the shock
they're doing. They don't know what the talk they're doing.

(16:05):
They don't know what the suck they're doing. They don't
know what theF snuck.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
The Michael Berry Show, not the bomb. I ain't gotten
much to lose, but got a lot to gain. It
has become sports in this country to blame the problems
of everyone on white people, and white people have for

(16:30):
too long sat by and allowed that to happen because
of fear and guilt and any number of other reasons.
So let's go to Jamal Bowman. Jamal Bowman is the
idiot who was a congressman who pulled the fire alarm, remember,

(16:54):
so that Congress couldn't go vote, And then he denied
he did it, and then the video camera showed he did,
and then somehow it was racism that caught him. Jamal
Bowman is one of these people that we have too
many of in American society today who can't add or subtract,

(17:19):
or divide or multiply. He can't create, contribute, lead, build nothing.
He just lays around on his fat ass claiming racism.
And these people it's a cottage industry. And there are
lots of white liberals only too eager to feed this nonsense,

(17:46):
making these people more and more beholden to welfare handouts DEI.
It's a control for their pets. And there are only
too many people eager to personally advance ten Nasai coats

(18:10):
or whatever the guy's name is. What's the guy that
claims he's a comedian, tall hog whatever on CNN, Roland
Martin from Houston, who's not even on CN anymore. What
was the guy's name that had held a sign up
with the N word on it? What was the little
gay dude that supposedly sexually accosted the guy remember he

(18:33):
was accused of that Ramoni you I'm talking about Don Lemon, Yeah,
thank you. There are so many of these people. Sheila
Jackson Lee was one of them. Jasmine Crockett, there's so
many of these people whose entire being is claiming white
people are their problem and telling black people that white

(18:55):
people are your problem. So give me some money, give
me a position, give me a job. So Jamal Bowman
is on CNN. They put him on a panel. Why
because you know he'll say stupid stuff. Never forget, media
understands that this stuff is like an accident on the

(19:19):
side of the road and you're going to rubber neck.
They don't do Jacques Cousteau discovers the underwater panoply of
awesomeness in primetime television because you won't watch it. They
put stupid black guy or stupid white liberal saying stupid

(19:41):
race based stuff because it makes you crazy, but you
can't turn away. So Jamal Bowman was on a CNN
panel and he declared that the black community suffers from
heart disease, cancer, obesity, and diabetes because of the word.

(20:02):
I guess you could say he's sounding the alarm.

Speaker 15 (20:08):
We're not dealing with America's original sin and its disease
of hate and racism towards black and brown people and
sexism towards women and LGBTQ sentiment.

Speaker 11 (20:20):
We are not dealing with that. Your colleagues in a
Republican party do not hold each other accountable when it
comes to the racism that comes from the party on
a consistent basis. Where you are about this, I'm a
black man in America.

Speaker 15 (20:37):
The reason why heart is white.

Speaker 11 (20:40):
Listen to what I'm saying. The reason why heart disease
and cancer and obesity and diabetes are bigger in the
Black community is because of distress we carry from having
to deal with being called the N word directly or
indirectly every day. If your colleagues would listen and try
to learn and engage in role and stop being so hateful,

(21:02):
we could have a better country. Unfortunately, we're still here. Jamal,
It's coming from one Jamal.

Speaker 13 (21:07):
I feel your passion, and I understand where you're coming from. Sincerely,
I really really do. It happens on both sides, Jamal.
You might think it happens more on your side, jam Jamal, Jamal,
When I leave the show, can I leave the show? Jamal?

Speaker 6 (21:21):
Twitter?

Speaker 11 (21:23):
And They're acquitted Rodney King, Abner, Louima, Eric Gardner, Trayvon Martin,
Black cops in Memphis it's not the same. And I
don't want to qualify or quantify pain. That's not what
I'm talking about. Everyone goes through pain. But the racism

(21:46):
in this country is the disease that will destroy us.
And it's destroying us right now as we speak. January sixth,
everybody was pardoned. Everybody's part riots in LA their insurrectionists,
but we part in every one January sixth.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
That right there is the cancer on this country. It
grows Daly. That right there is the reason Donald Trump
was elected. That right there is the reason we have
a Republican majority. Republicans are trying to squander the support
of the American people. But whites and reasonable Blacks and

(22:28):
reasonable Hispanics don't want this nonsense. They've had enough of it.
It's a setback, it's silly, it's very low intelligence, and
it's destructive. Put Jamal Bowman in charge of anything in
it will fail. How Jamal Bowman got elected is the

(22:53):
recipe for what's wrong in districts that elect black congressman
like him. Jasmine Crockett didn't talk the way she talks
now prior to running for Congress. She didn't act like
a fool. She didn't say stupid things like that. She

(23:16):
was trying to make something of herself. Go to law school,
be a lawyer, be a contributor, be considered serious. But
when she ran for Congress in a district that was
majority black, what did she do? She started talking ghetto.
She started dropping g's at the end of the words.

(23:38):
She started saying absurd things, ridiculous things, as if somebody
was screaming World Star in the background and they were
trying to make this thing go viral for dumb assory.
This kind of thing is a scourge on our country.
It keeps black people down, It flames racism. It is,

(24:03):
at its very core racist. Black racism is by far
the greatest racism in America today, the most profound, the
most broadly held. If I tell you that somebody got
beaten up by a person of the opposite race today

(24:24):
and it was brutal, and after they were knocked out
someone had stomped them, I'll bet you the odds are
ninety nine percent it was a black person doing it
to a white person rather than the reverse, And the
FBI statistics prove that out. None of what this fool
says is true. Diabetes is related to the end.

Speaker 13 (24:40):
One well, picket sure, and if you don't like them,
we'll reprint them or refund your money.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
No matter who's fault.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
It is the show photo map, Your photo matters.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
We started the show with a clip of Rush Limbaugh
and look, I'm fifty four. If my health holds out,
Rush past at seventy. He was on the air almost
till the day he died. If we make it sixteen
more years, that would be a great run. I'd be
honored by that. Sure, I'd love to go longer. I

(25:15):
have no intention to ever retire. I don't know what
else i'd do. Drive my wife crazy. I love doing
what we do. I love the people I do it with,
Ramon Roeblis and Chattaconi Nakanishi and Jim Mudd and Darryl Koonda.
I love what we do and that we get to

(25:36):
do it because, like you, I have ideas. I'm observing
what's going on, and I like to talk about it.
There's I think that's productive. I like to engage. I
like to hear from you back. It's a fun process.
But I wonder if I would do what I'd do

(25:58):
if it hadn't been for Rush Limbough, and if I
do get to do what we do now for sixteen
more years, I wonder if they'll come a point where
I'll mention Rush Limbaugh and some younger members of the
audience won't know who that is. That's crazy to me
to think, crazy to me to think, can you imagine

(26:22):
mentioning Rush Limbaugh as I do today? I know that
that stirs for many of you strong emotions as it
does for me. It's been he passed February seventeenth of
twenty twenty one, so it's been what four and a
half years, and I think to myself, we wouldn't get

(26:48):
to be on the air. But for what Rush did.
Rush saved the AM Dial. I've told the story before.
I won't tell it all now, but suffice it to
say there'd be no Clay and Buck, no Sean Nity,
no Glenn Back, no Michael Berry, no Jesse Kelly, none
of it. If he hadn't saved the AM dial by

(27:08):
being so darned good, and if you hadn't reacted to
him by supporting his sponsors, the business model didn't work.
Rush Limbaugh would have been working for after the Kansas
City Royals. I suppose another team in the sports information office.

(27:31):
But it also tells you there's some really smart people
out there that might be working in the sports information
office of Pittsburgh for the Pirates or the Astros. They
might be running the HR department or accounts receivable for
a company in Minneapolis. I mean, if we hadn't heard

(27:51):
of Rush Limbaugh, he would be no less brilliant. We
just wouldn't have heard of him. There are other brilliant people.
He just had an opportun tunity and the tenacity to
hang in there and be given an opportunity by ABC
to go national. But I got a lot of emails
from you asking for that clip because you wanted to

(28:13):
share it with someone. I read every email. I can't
respond to every email. When you ask for something that
we've played, it's always easier to go back to the
podcast and make a few notes and then put that
in a search engine and find it. But there's a
reason we played that, and I didn't get into that reason,
and I'd like to do that. Now. Let's start by

(28:33):
playing that again. Some of you may have just tuned in.
This was what Rush Limbaugh had to say about immigration,
and he called them the Limbaugh laws. Listen to this.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Everybody's making immigration proposals these days. Let me add mine
to the mix. Call it the Limbaw laws. First, you
immigrate to our country, you have to speak the native language.
You have to be a professional or an investor. No
unskilled workers allowed. Also, there'll be no special bilingual programs
in the schools with the limball laws, no special ballots
for elections. No government business will be conducted in your language.

(29:05):
Foreigners will not have the right to vote or hold
political office. If you're in our country, you cannot be
a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled to welfare
or food stamps or other government goodies. You can come
if you invest here an amount equal to forty thousand
times a daily minimum wage. If not, stay home. But
if you want to buy land, it'll be restricted. No waterfront,

(29:26):
for instance. And as a foreigner, you have to relinquish
individual rights to the property. And another thing, you don't
have the right to protest. You're allowed no demonstrations, no
foreign flag waving, no political organizing, no bad mouthing our
president or his policies. You're a foreigner, shut your mouth
or get out. And if you come here, illegally, You're

(29:46):
going to jail. You think the Limball laws are harsh, Well,
every one of the laws I just mentioned are actual
laws of Mexico today. That's how the Mexican government handles
immigrants to their country. Yet Mexicans come here illegally and
protest in our streets. How do you say double standard
in Spanish? How about no.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Boss unsustainable giveaways to illegal aliens. That's what Democrat states
have done well. Now. The Democrat governors of California, Illinois,
and Minnesota are pushing to roll back or freeze programs
that gave government funded healthcare to illegals after they realize

(30:27):
they can't afford it. The story from News Nation.

Speaker 16 (30:30):
We have seen Americans change their opinions about documented immigrants
at getting healthcare, a lot of it having to do
with the decline in the threat.

Speaker 7 (30:39):
Of COVID nineteen.

Speaker 16 (30:40):
And we have seen federal funding for COVID relief that
has ended, along with state's actual spending being much higher
than their projected spending.

Speaker 13 (30:50):
So it's leading many.

Speaker 16 (30:51):
Governors to roll back that healthcare coverage for undocumented immigrants.
And we're seeing this over in California. Governor Gavin Newsom
wanting to freeze new enrollment in a medical for undocumented adults.
Existing patients can say, but even they could see benefit cuts.
It's exactly what Republicans like California Assemblymen Carl Demayo have

(31:13):
been calling for.

Speaker 17 (31:15):
We simply cannot afford it. And it's certainly not just
to put the health coverage of poor Californians elderly, disabled,
young children at risk because California politicians want to give
free handouts to people who are not even citizens.

Speaker 16 (31:36):
Here in Illinois, Governor JB. Pritzker taking it even a
step further, ending the Immigrant Adult Health Program entirely on
July first. It launched back in twenty twenty one and
currently covers over thirty thousand people. And Minnesota, they are
also pulling back, kicking undocumented adults off of Minnesota care
by the end of the year. And in fact, the
top Democrat in the House Minnesota State House, Melissa Atman,

(32:00):
she was murdered this past weekend and what Governor Waltz
has called a politically motivated assassination, and she was the
only Democrat to side with Republicans at the end of
their legislative session. Just last week, she sided with Republicans
to get rid of a healthcare coverage for undocumented immigrants
in order for there to not be a government shutdown. Now,

(32:23):
pundits to say that it's not the governor values governor's
values that have changed, but cash flow. All three states
are facing budget shortfalls, and there's new pressure coming from Washington,
including a federal bill that would cut funding to states
covering undocumented immigrants, and the cutbacks have sparked outrage from
immigrant rights groups. They say that it's a step backward

(32:43):
for public health and for states that claim to be inclusive,
and more states could follow suits because right now, open
enrollment rules are now under review in Colorado, Washington, and
also New York
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