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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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But I just gotta see I'm doing all right, will
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Just turn all right.
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It's a great dad, be I know it suns still
shining around.
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A close night eyes.
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It's hot times in the neighborhood.
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But whyking every day thing just as good.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
All Friday evening in the eight o'clock hour. One of
my favorite people of all time, leftist, the great George Foreman.
What an American story, what a human story, what a
Christian walk, What a entrepreneurial success, But most of all,
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what a patriarch of a family. What a symbol of
what it means to keep a marriage together, to raise
your kids, keep your kids close to you because they
want to be part of your life, and you want
to be part of theirs. All the way to the
great grandfather stage. It was only seventy six. On his
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seventieth birthday, six years ago, back in twenty nineteen. We
talked to him on that day about his thoughts of
turning seventy, and this is what he said.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
You know what I thought about. I've heard all so
many people say I really had it hard, and I
came up the hard way, and I thought, for the
first time, I realized, no one has had it hard
as they've come from America. All I had to do
was turn to the sern to the sun. Whenever I
had adversity, and I had a hand up from an
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Olympic gold medalist, heavyweight champ for the world minister, real salesman.
It was always there for me. It's like a trail
laid out for me. I feel great seventy. What am
I going to do next?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I wonder, Yeah, because you don't follow the normal timeline.
I tweeted this morning, I wrote, happy seventy to the champ,
George Foreman, pastor, patriarch, patriot, philanthropist, businessman, actor, author, inspirational
racks of riches, story, humble, faithful kind.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Did I miss anything else? He did?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And my point was, here's the guy that that had
greater longevity and success than anyone in boxing, and yet
your second act, your third act, your fourth act, whatever
you want to call it, has just been amazing.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I mean, I cannot believe. It's been a wonderful life.
And I sat back and I considered the lives of
so many others who started right here, I mean, all
the way down to Henry Ford. Those guys, no one
had anything but a dream but to wake up in
this country and decide I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna
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do that. Aretha Franklin, by the way, just banging on
the piano. The next thing you know, the world is
watching a funeral. It's amazing place to be born in.
And I'm happy. I'm in here. I'm happy.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Did you ever think a little boy from Marshall, Texas
would rise to the heights you witnessed?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Couldn't believe it. My mom showed me in a place
where I was born, the little house, and all I
can remember, because I was a little boy, where's the toilet?
There wasn't one.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I had the privilege of interviewing you a while back
when you gave me George, and you made the comment
that when you were fifteen sixteen and you joined the
job Corps, and you said, look, I was on a
really bad path. I wasn't gonna make twenty. It's an
incredible story to have turned your life around from the
streets to the swedes and where you've been like that,
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and to make seventy. I mean, in the shape you're in,
it's incredible.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Just too many things have gone well for me, and
if I tried to take credit for it, I wouldn't
be telling her truf. I've met some people along the way,
so many good people, and even from Houston, Texas. That
was a lady I can remember. Her name is Missus Bonner.
My mom had been taken to the hospital and having
This was a social worker. She was having trouble getting
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back on her feet. She said, what can we do
for you? She said, I just want my son much
foreman to stay out of trouble. This lady came over
and found being fIF what took me so far away
to do some job for earn me a couple of
dollars and just kept telling me, George, you're in control.
From that point on, I've had one person after another
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they just take my ind and lead me into all
of the great things that can happen to a human being.
Doc Brothers, my boxing coach Lyndon Johnson, the President, so
many great people.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I think of the visual of nineteen sixty eight at
the Olympics in Mexico, the young George Foreman pulling from
his trunks that little tiny American flag and making his
way around the ring, so proud of his country, so
incredibly proud of this country. What an inspiration, what a life,
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what a legacy it It's amazing. I don't feel sad
over death the way I used to, partly because I
now realize it's going to happen to all of us,
but also I think that's what we're promised.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We're promised death. We're promised it's.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Coming, and we should live in a way that we
are prepared for it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
That we have.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Buddy of mine and his son spent all week in
cutting firewood. We were talking about that. And when you're
cutting firewood in March, because December is coming. It may
not seem like it, but December is coming. When you're
doing that in your life and preparing the people around
you for your eventual exit, that's a.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Life to be proud of.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I love that he proclaimed proudly his faith at all times.
He preached it for no real benefit personally, is certainly
not financially, and a great cost to him because it
was his ministry and he was able to do it,
and he did do it, and he proclaimed his patriotism,
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the opportunity of this country, what it offered, what it
had offered him, but what it offers everybody. It's a great, great,
great American story, and I'm proud to have known him,
and we won't let his legacy be forgotten. Coming up,
we will talk to Clayton Anderson, astronaut Clayton Anderson with
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all of the space news of late and after that
a story of a murder most foul. I don't know
how people survive the murder of a loved one, but
the jury came back I believe it was on Friday,
and we will talk to an individual who went through
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something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Of course,
you can always email me through the website Michael Berryshow
dot com or just Michael at Michael Berryshow dot com.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And after that, much more to get to stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Southern Pride Southern Pride to Michael Berry Show. Tomorrow will
be the one hundred fifth anniversary of the first airing
of kt RH, our flagship station come to the Rice
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Hotel owner Jesse Jones wanted to put his landmark flagship
premier property in the name of the radio station, and
it lives on tomorrow will be one hundred and five
years later, almost as many years. Joyce, the Sage of Sunnyside. Joyce,
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I believe you have a birthday today?
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh my goodness. I started getting emails this morning. Don't forget.
One fella had sent you a card. One fella was
calling you later today. I mean, this has become like
a national holiday, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
I was just surprised. I've been getting mail and people
are calling telling me they're bringing me some money this afternoon.
Oh my goodness, I said, I said, I need to
have more than one birthday. It's such a mean And
I tell me, you remember my birthday. And I'm just
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as Michael. I'm just as excited as getting a card
every day as I would if it was money. I
just I just love it. I just loved it. I say,
they remember my birthday.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
How old are you today, Joyce? Two ninety two? My goodness,
alive ninety Yes.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's just amazing and in the shape you're in. I mean,
that's so, what do you attribute that?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Well? I get this every time I go to the doctor,
I have to explain, I have to do what did
you do? And sometimes they will parade me up and
down the showing me off to people. And sometimes if
I'm going from one department to another one they have
let them knowing they're standing out like this is a parade.
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This is the way I'm treated. You know, I'm treated
loyally like this. But then because I'm treated like this,
and because the songs I have received, the government have
taken away by Medico. They have taken almost two hundred
dollars from a Social Security check. And somebody said, but
you are still happy. I say, I just live one
day at a time, and I have lived this way.
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This is this is the way I raised my children.
I live simple, so I can simply live. And that's
why I'm not jealous of anyone else. You know, my
wish and life, Michael has been before I die. I
wanted to have a real diamond, but I'm of this persuasion.
I don't think your wife shouldn't have a diamond because
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I don't have one. I just put on my little
manade jewelry, and I just go on down the road
and I live happy, joyous and free. And the world
didn't give me this joy, and the world can't take
it away. See by the government taken away my medical
and all that, it hasn't taken away my joy. And
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I thank God for that, cause you know, the fun
and the stuff that they sent me through all these
stupid letters they send me one cent of give every
about in your accounts ahead, count number one, count number two,
counting them three, counting them four. God didn't give me
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no million dollars. I don't have no foulk checking accounts,
I mean. And you can much illegal aliens into my country,
and you can let them live in a four hundred
dollars a day, a seven hundred dollars a day hotel
for everything coming and you do this to a ninety
two year old, but just haven't taken my Joey. That's
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where I am today.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
You know, Joyce.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It's talking about George Foreman passing Friday Night and the
similarities in people who are joyous. I think that people
who don't understand this think, well, you're joyous if good
things happen to you or you're joyous if you have
good luck, or you're joyous if you're wealthy, or.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Whatever that may be.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But joy is a choice we make, and I think
that's really important.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
It's a joey people don't understand why I'm not. I'm
not mad today, and I just think about the song
that I had left over from my great uh Stuff
appreciation on my ninth birthday. I used that to do
things in my house. I'm not living in a jurious life.
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I'm not out on the boat every day sailing and all.
But this guy don't take away my joy. That's where
I am today. So I am. My son flew in
from North Dakota to wish Mama happy birthday. It took
me to lunch yesterday. Oh, my daughter took me last
night to see Hamilton fantastic.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Where did ye that?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Josh Hamilton?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Beg pardon, where did y'all see that?
Speaker 5 (13:47):
At Hobby Center?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And it was good?
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Oh it was great. You know. I have read about
it and I've heard I've heard people saying how they
have they are gone to see it three and four time?
But it was great, it was great.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I just so I'm just enjoying him personally.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
What did you know him, mister Hamilton, Alexander Hamilton. No,
well I didn't know. You know, there's a certain point
at which it all just kind of blurs together, you know,
ninety two, you know, I don't know how much older
than that he was.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yes, yes, but yes, but it was great. But anyway,
I'm gonna I'm gonna have a great birthday and I'm
just gonna. I just want and I'm still I'm getting
donations today for my ministry of food, uh, because you know,
there are people in this city, Michael that doesn't have
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enough food and by generals and some of them listening
to me right now to donate. I have helped so
many people in this community through radio listeners bringing me
stuff for the community, and a a lot of them say,
you know, I just I just love doing for you
because what you do for your community. How many times
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I help young women with children and no help and
all that, and we can sit here with so much
anger Like that just kissed me when I see all
the anger I see now how they're treating tells the company,
how can you live? How can you go to bed
at night and sleep with this kind of anger?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
You know?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I thank God, Michael. When I lay my head on
my pillow at night, I can go to sleep with
sweep dreams because I've tried to help somebody. If it
wasn't anything, Michael.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
But a smile.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
You don't always have to have psalms together. It sometimes
all somebody needed a smile, and you walking around and
hear angry.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Many smiles to you, Joyce on your nineties second birthday.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
We love you with work.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
The effervation that I get from the show that I
don't seem to get from other places, The.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
She packed my bags last night.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Reflight zero our ninety am, and I'm going to be
high as a kite by then.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
I missed the card so much, I missed my wive.
It's lonely out space on such a time. I am bess.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Flight astronaut Clayton Anderson is our guest. With space being
in the news, who better to join the show. You
saw him on Fire News as their expert on the
matter last week. Clayton, let's start with your reaction emotionally, personally,
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professionally when you saw our astronauts come home last week.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
That was pretty thrilled.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
You know, I've been removed from that game for I
don't know, probably fifteen years now, but I replaced Sonny
as back in two thousand and seven when she had
finished her first flight. So I have a kindred spirit
with my space sister, and it was important for them
to get home safely after all that, and I'm glad
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they did.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I know, you stay up on NASA matters and space matters.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
What happened.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
My understanding is they were going up for a few days,
and nine months later they were stranded there.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Can you explain that?
Speaker 8 (17:53):
Yeah, I don't know if i'd use the word stranded,
but the star Liner, the Boeing star Liner, took them
up for an eight to ten day test flight with
a crew, and then they had thrust problems. So then
they said, well, let's keep them on there for a while,
which is an awesome answer, right to spend a couple
months on the space station while we look at the
Starliner and try to figure out what happened. So they
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do all that, and then they come to the conclusion
that well, you know, we're not going to be able
to fix the problems, and we don't want Butcher's Sonny
to risk coming back on the star Liner. And so
they send it back empty. Well, now they are stranded
for a brief period because they don't have a rescue craft.
You know, whenever you fly to the space station, the
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seat that you fly in to the station on is
your escape seat to go home. And so that's why
they needed the SpaceX crew to come up with two
empty seats so they could dock and stay there and
bring Butch and Sonny home. The thing I don't really
understand is why they made those that crew spend their
whole increment and made Butcher and Sonny spend that whole increment,
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which then drove for the nine months. That's a part
I don't know, and I'm not privy to.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
All Right, Clayton, if you wouldn't say they were stranded there,
what word would you use?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I would say they better word, that's more descriptive.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
Okay, So between the time when the star Liner left
and the time the SpaceX Dragon came up with two
empty seats, they were kind of stranded.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
So my bad.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
But once they get up there, there's plenty of food,
there's plenty of water, there's plenty of oxygen, there's plenty
of clothes, so you know, and it's a very safe environment.
We understand that environment. We've understood it for you know,
twenty something years now, so and they could contribute to
the mission objective of doing science and repair and maintenance
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and all those good things.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
When you.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
That's a long period of time, so there had to
have been provision made obviously for things like food and water.
Do you have any sense of the length of those provisions,
those stocks? I mean, how long could this have gone on?
Speaker 8 (20:08):
It can go on for quite a while. What we
have to understand is that the supply chain to get
supplies back and forth from the International Space Station was
never broken, right. Progress vehicles came from Russia, other vehicles
bring stuff up, so that part was intact. So there
was plenty of food, plenty of water, and they were
never worried from that aspect. I would imagine once they
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figured out Sonny and Butch were going to be there
for a while, they did a little bit of scrambling
to get clothing in their size and those sorts of
things on the next delivery vehicle to come up to them.
But once all that happened, it's pretty much steady as
she goes. Well.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
The problem with that is women will often lie about
their sizes because they don't want to be there. So you,
I guess you have to prepare on that account, you know,
and add a little extra fluff.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
Yeah, I'm sure that was done. You know.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
You know, I buy all my pants now with an
element that we didn't have growing up with the you know,
the Levi's, and it's it's a little a little stretch factor,
so they can they can stretch out or close up,
depending on how I'm doing that week. Maybe maybe they
did that.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Well.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
You know, it's funny. I lost both times I flew
five months and two weeks, and both times I lost
the same amount of weight twelve pounds when I got
up to space, and of course I gained it right
back when I came back to Earth.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
All Right, I have a question, and we're going to
handle this delicately, but we have to handle it because
I've always been curious. So you use whatever words you
want to use to keep it clinical. But how does
one how does one pass.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
A movement when you're up there.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
The same way you pass a movement when you're down here.
You just need a little bit of a vacuum cleaner.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Oh okay, and the same for the same for the pep.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
Yes, the pepe is you just pee into a hose
and it sucks it down into a can. And back
in those days we use kind of Russian kitty litter
was inside the can some form of absorption. And then
in the number two there's a plastic bag that has
holes in it, and the holes allow the fan to
draw the air through that bag, which then inflates or
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opens it so you can drop your addition into the
into the fray. And then you take all your clean
up things, your gauze, your toilet tissue, your gloves, all
those things, and you put it in that little plastic
bag and then you snap the top off. It has
a nice tight rubber band, and then you just push
it down into the can and you're good to go.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Anytime, are you anxious and tense when you're doing such
things or does it just become second nature.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
The very first time on the shuttle, I was scared
to death. I read that checklist one hundred times and
I made sure everything was good to go. It was
all successful, but I learned one thing, and that was
the next time I was going to go number two
on any space vehicle, I was getting naked I was
taken off everything because I didn't need anything inhibiting me.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Right, Interesting, how does it change you? How emotionally physically?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Anything like what are the things we would take for
granted or that we wouldn't notice that space does to you.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
Physically? I don't think much. For me my five months
and my rehabit took about three weeks coming home. I
think Sonny and Butch will probably have double that maybe.
But what it did for me was it strengthened my
faith in God. As I looked at Earth, all I
could think of was Man. None of this is random,
you know. You hear about the overview effect and the
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orbital perspective that astronauts talk about on occasion, and I
believe all that. All that's true. We're on spaceship, right,
we should take care of Earth. But for me, it
just strengthened my faith. You know, for a small town
kid from Nebraska that would end up in outer space
for one hundred and sixty seven days and have the
privilege of the things that I was exposed to and
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allowed to do, it's all about my faith.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, so much of life is, if viewed properly, an
opportunity to get to do something, and most people are
never going to go to space. But whatever that is,
and our ministry where it is, our life, where it is,
our influence where it is, and I think it's all
It goes back to talk about George Foreman and talk
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to Saja Sonny said Jewish, it's all about perspective, and
you have such a good perspective as an astronaut.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
You've used it to write children's books. We'll talk to
astronaut Clayton Anderson coming out.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
This is the Michael Barry shows Less as Shots.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Clayton.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
C not every day you get your own customized intro
by chance McLean.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Hey, that was pretty awesome take out.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You know we would license it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
We will license that to you for your own introductions,
for your speeches and things, if you would like, okay.
Clayton Conrad Anderson is a retired NASA astronaut Launchstone STS
one seventeen. He replaced Nunita Williams on June tenth, two
thousand seven, as a member of the ISS.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Expedition fifteen crew.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Currently an author, motivational speaker, and professor of practice at
Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa. Twenty twenty two, he
became the president and CEO of the Strategic Air Command
and Aerospace Museum. I just was reading from your wiki
Wikipedia profile. I don't know if you've if you've checked
that out in a while, Clayton, let me ask you
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a question.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
I wrote most of it.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
No, I wasn't going to say that. Let me ask
you a question. So in I don't know. Two thousand
and nine or so, Charles Bolden, who was then the
NSA or NASA director, I don't know if you knew
him or not. He gave an interview where he said
that President Trump had given him three goals and none
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of them were related to space travel or science. The
third being to tell the Muslim world that they have
a contribution historically to math and science and you know
that they matter. It was part of the Muslim outreach,
and I thought to myself, you know, a once great
space program has now been reduced to patting countries on
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the back so they feel good about themselves.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
What is the state of NASA today.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
That's a good question. I think there's some unknowns going
on with the new administration and the changes that have
done over the last few years, and the space launch
system is probably concerning given costs and schedule. I mean,
it's always about budget and money and schedule. And when
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you have people like SpaceX and Blue Origin and Virgin
Galactic out there pushing the commercial envelope, I think all
that's good. I think it forces us to look at
things in a different light.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Do you think that space travel as we once knew it,
at least as as conducted by NASA is over?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And how do you see SpaceX fitting into all of that.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
I don't think it's over. I think that, you know,
having a presence in the federal government is important. You know,
if you look back at Challenger in Colombia, the reason
that we were able to continue on was because of
the push from the federal government. So I think it's
a combination. I think it's important that we have these
commercial space flight companies that are pushing the envelope and
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showing us what's possible and bringing the prices down. Those
are all good things. Think about Orville and Wilbur at
Kitty Hawk in nineteen oh three when they food their
right flyer, and now think about what you can do
today on a commercial aircraft.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Right.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
None of that was believed to be possible back then,
but now it is. It's commercially driven and it's very
safe and used by many, many people. So I think
that's a good analogy. We're on the cusp of that,
we're on the beginning of that in spaceflight, where Orgle
and Wilbur might have been back in nineteen oh three.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
What do you make of Elon's ability to do the
things he's done as a private company on a lean budget.
And yet, I mean, you know, they're sure there are
failures along the way. NASA had failures. It's a dangerous business.
But I'm not a scientist. I don't have obviously the
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experience you do, but I am in awe of what
they have accomplished. But I'm curious your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
I am too, you know, as an astronaut who flew
on the Space Shuttle and lived on the Space Station,
those were pretty incredible accomplishments. But if you look at
what he's done and the speed, the rate at which
he's done it, it's kind of unprecedented. Now, what folks
have to understand is statistically, down the road, there will
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be a problem. There will be a death. You know,
someone will die. Just it's statistics, and we hope that
never happens, right, but I think it's inevitable. And then
how the recovery is from all of that is what's
important to me. You know. Does he take his millions
and go home or does he stay and fight the
battle and make it better and go again and all
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those things. So it's like the explorers in America back
in the day when they started to move west across
the country, right, they were uncovering problems every day, and
they were fighting against things they didn't know existed. So
we're in that way in space travel. And I always
talk about the three ds of spaceflight, danger, difficulty, and dollars,
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and those are very prevalent. We know it's dangerous, we
oftentimes figure out and fix the difficult, but it's all
about the dollars.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Clayton Anderson, astronaut Clayton Anderson's our guest. I have two
minutes left, so I'm going to be fast because I've
been wanting to ask you about this for a while.
So you served as an aquanaut during the NEMO five
mission on the Aquarius underwater Laboratory, living and working underwater
for fourteen days. Right, what is the future of our ability?
Jacques Cousteau style to go under the water and spend
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any significant time there.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
I probably have less expertise. If I have any expertise.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
In anything, just make something up.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
Okay, it's fascinating. I think it's an extreme environment.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Right.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
Space and underwater are extreme environments outer space and inner space,
and those are perfect places to figure out what humans
can do, what we can stand, how much stress we
can take, how we work together with each other. They're
just great analogies for doing incredible things. So I think,
you know, we should live underwater too. In space and underwater,
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I think they're both great venues.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
You know, the mind of a child and what inspires
a child, what they read, what they see, what they hear,
these sorts of things. I think you have to have
those things to light that fire in a young mind
and understand why math, science, physics and literature and all
these things are so incredibly important. Clayton Anderson, it's always
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a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
We will have you back again. I appreciate you, sir.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
I appreciate you, Michael, and my best to the King
of Ding as well.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
You got it, astronaut Clayton Anderson. Our guest there.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Faeta writes I just wanted to share with you that
my amazing Aunt Dale turned one hundred yesterday. We had
a lovely party. She's an amazing woman and has more
years ahead. Faetta Thanish and she included a picture of
the adorable adorable Aunt Dale and Aunt Dale has a
sash on like she's.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Just won the Miss America contest. Debbie writes, I'm listening
to the sweetest lady on your show.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
She's talking about Joyce to say to Sunnyside, and I'm
thinking about my own mom. FYI Sally Atkins, the fisher
woman from Cold Spring. She was ninety eight in October
and continues to be so happy. She finds the good
in each day, still living alone, going to get those
nails done, and living.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Life to the fullest.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Sometimes she'll say, I just can't believe I'm still here.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Lol. I don't need a response from this email.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
It was just on my mind after listening to this
cute lady this morning. Such inspiration from these older people
who make a choice for happiness each day.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
That be Walmart
It's that time, time, time time, luck and load to
Michael Verry show's on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Guys looking into Mic a week. Gotta feed a beard.
I don't plan to shave, and it's you the thing.
But I just gotta see I'm doing all right, will
I'm making support me. It's beating Verdictue.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
That's the truth.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's neither drinking a drug and just snool.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Just turn all right.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's a great dad, be I know it suns still
shining around.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
A close night eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's hot times in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
But whyking every day thing just as good.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
All Friday evening in the eight o'clock hour. One of
my favorite people of all time, leftist, the great George Foreman.
What an American story, what a human story, what a
Christian walk, What a entrepreneurial success, But most of all,
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what a patriarch of a family. What a symbol of
what it means to keep a marriage together, to raise
your kids, keep your kids close to you because they
want to be part of your life, and you want
to be part of theirs. All the way to the
great grandfather stage. It was only seventy six. On his
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seventieth birthday, six years ago, back in twenty nineteen. We
talked to him on that day about his thoughts of
turning seventy, and this is what he said.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
You know what I thought about. I've heard all so
many people say I really had it hard, and I
came up the hard way, and I thought, for the
first time, I realized, no one has had it hard
as they've come from America. All I had to do
was turn to the sern to the sun. Whenever I
had adversity, and I had a hand up from an
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Olympic gold medalist, heavyweight champ for the world minister, real salesman.
It was always there for me. It's like a trail
laid out for me. I feel great seventy. What am
I going to do next?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I wonder, Yeah, because you don't follow the normal timeline.
I tweeted this morning, I wrote, happy seventy to the champ,
George Foreman, pastor, patriarch, patriot, philanthropist, businessman, actor, author, inspirational
racks of riches, story, humble, faithful kind.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Did I miss anything else? He did?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And my point was, here's the guy that that had
greater longevity and success than anyone in boxing, and yet
your second act, your third act, your fourth act, whatever
you want to call it, has just been amazing.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I mean, I cannot believe. It's been a wonderful life.
And I sat back and I considered the lives of
so many others who started right here, I mean, all
the way down to Henry Ford. Those guys, no one
had anything but a dream but to wake up in
this country and decide I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna
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do that. Aretha Franklin, by the way, just banging on
the piano. The next thing you know, the world is
watching a funeral. It's amazing place to be born in.
And I'm happy. I'm in here. I'm happy.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Did you ever think a little boy from Marshall, Texas
would rise to the heights you witnessed?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Couldn't believe it. My mom showed me in a place
where I was born, the little house, and all I
can remember, because I was a little boy, where's the toilet?
There wasn't one.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I had the privilege of interviewing you a while back
when you gave me George, and you made the comment
that when you were fifteen sixteen and you joined the
job Corps, and you said, look, I was on a
really bad path. I wasn't gonna make twenty. It's an
incredible story to have turned your life around from the
streets to the swedes and where you've been like that,
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and to make seventy. I mean, in the shape you're in,
it's incredible.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Just too many things have gone well for me, and
if I tried to take credit for it, I wouldn't
be telling her truf. I've met some people along the way,
so many good people, and even from Houston, Texas. That
was a lady I can remember. Her name is Missus Bonner.
My mom had been taken to the hospital and having
This was a social worker. She was having trouble getting
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back on her feet. She said, what can we do
for you? She said, I just want my son much
foreman to stay out of trouble. This lady came over
and found being fIF what took me so far away
to do some job for earn me a couple of
dollars and just kept telling me, George, you're in control.
From that point on, I've had one person after another
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they just take my ind and lead me into all
of the great things that can happen to a human being.
Doc Brothers, my boxing coach Lyndon Johnson, the President, so
many great people.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I think of the visual of nineteen sixty eight at
the Olympics in Mexico, the young George Foreman pulling from
his trunks that little tiny American flag and making his
way around the ring, so proud of his country, so
incredibly proud of this country. What an inspiration, what a life,
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what a legacy it It's amazing. I don't feel sad
over death the way I used to, partly because I
now realize it's going to happen to all of us,
but also I think that's what we're promised.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We're promised death. We're promised it's.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Coming, and we should live in a way that we
are prepared for it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
That we have.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Buddy of mine and his son spent all week in
cutting firewood. We were talking about that. And when you're
cutting firewood in March, because December is coming. It may
not seem like it, but December is coming. When you're
doing that in your life and preparing the people around
you for your eventual exit, that's a.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Life to be proud of.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I love that he proclaimed proudly his faith at all times.
He preached it for no real benefit personally, is certainly
not financially, and a great cost to him because it
was his ministry and he was able to do it,
and he did do it, and he proclaimed his patriotism,
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the opportunity of this country, what it offered, what it
had offered him, but what it offers everybody. It's a great, great,
great American story, and I'm proud to have known him,
and we won't let his legacy be forgotten. Coming up,
we will talk to Clayton Anderson, astronaut Clayton Anderson with
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all of the space news of late and after that
a story of a murder most foul. I don't know
how people survive the murder of a loved one, but
the jury came back I believe it was on Friday,
and we will talk to an individual who went through
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something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Of course,
you can always email me through the website Michael Berryshow
dot com or just Michael at Michael Berryshow dot com.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And after that, much more to get to stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Southern Pride Southern Pride to Michael Berry Show. Tomorrow will
be the one hundred fifth anniversary of the first airing
of kt RH, our flagship station come to the Rice
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Hotel owner Jesse Jones wanted to put his landmark flagship
premier property in the name of the radio station, and
it lives on tomorrow will be one hundred and five
years later, almost as many years. Joyce, the Sage of Sunnyside. Joyce,
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I believe you have a birthday today?
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh my goodness. I started getting emails this morning. Don't forget.
One fella had sent you a card. One fella was
calling you later today. I mean, this has become like
a national holiday, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
I was just surprised. I've been getting mail and people
are calling telling me they're bringing me some money this afternoon.
Oh my goodness, I said, I said, I need to
have more than one birthday. It's such a mean And
I tell me, you remember my birthday. And I'm just
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as Michael. I'm just as excited as getting a card
every day as I would if it was money. I
just I just love it. I just loved it. I say,
they remember my birthday.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
How old are you today, Joyce? Two ninety two? My goodness,
alive ninety Yes.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's just amazing and in the shape you're in. I mean,
that's so, what do you attribute that?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Well? I get this every time I go to the doctor,
I have to explain, I have to do what did
you do? And sometimes they will parade me up and
down the showing me off to people. And sometimes if
I'm going from one department to another one they have
let them knowing they're standing out like this is a parade.
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This is the way I'm treated. You know, I'm treated
loyally like this. But then because I'm treated like this,
and because the songs I have received, the government have
taken away by Medico. They have taken almost two hundred
dollars from a Social Security check. And somebody said, but
you are still happy. I say, I just live one
day at a time, and I have lived this way.
(11:05):
This is this is the way I raised my children.
I live simple, so I can simply live. And that's
why I'm not jealous of anyone else. You know, my
wish and life, Michael has been before I die. I
wanted to have a real diamond, but I'm of this persuasion.
I don't think your wife shouldn't have a diamond because
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I don't have one. I just put on my little
manade jewelry, and I just go on down the road
and I live happy, joyous and free. And the world
didn't give me this joy, and the world can't take
it away. See by the government taken away my medical
and all that, it hasn't taken away my joy. And
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I thank God for that, cause you know, the fun
and the stuff that they sent me through all these
stupid letters they send me one cent of give every
about in your accounts ahead, count number one, count number two,
counting them three, counting them four. God didn't give me
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no million dollars. I don't have no foulk checking accounts,
I mean. And you can much illegal aliens into my country,
and you can let them live in a four hundred
dollars a day, a seven hundred dollars a day hotel
for everything coming and you do this to a ninety
two year old, but just haven't taken my Joey. That's
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where I am today.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
You know, Joyce.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It's talking about George Foreman passing Friday Night and the
similarities in people who are joyous. I think that people
who don't understand this think, well, you're joyous if good
things happen to you or you're joyous if you have
good luck, or you're joyous if you're wealthy, or.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Whatever that may be.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But joy is a choice we make, and I think
that's really important.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
It's a joey people don't understand why I'm not. I'm
not mad today, and I just think about the song
that I had left over from my great uh Stuff
appreciation on my ninth birthday. I used that to do
things in my house. I'm not living in a jurious life.
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I'm not out on the boat every day sailing and all.
But this guy don't take away my joy. That's where
I am today. So I am. My son flew in
from North Dakota to wish Mama happy birthday. It took
me to lunch yesterday. Oh, my daughter took me last
night to see Hamilton fantastic.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Where did ye that?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Josh Hamilton?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Beg pardon, where did y'all see that?
Speaker 5 (13:47):
At Hobby Center?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And it was good?
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Oh it was great. You know. I have read about
it and I've heard I've heard people saying how they
have they are gone to see it three and four time?
But it was great, it was great.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I just so I'm just enjoying him personally.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
What did you know him, mister Hamilton, Alexander Hamilton. No,
well I didn't know. You know, there's a certain point
at which it all just kind of blurs together, you know,
ninety two, you know, I don't know how much older
than that he was.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yes, yes, but yes, but it was great. But anyway,
I'm gonna I'm gonna have a great birthday and I'm
just gonna. I just want and I'm still I'm getting
donations today for my ministry of food, uh, because you know,
there are people in this city, Michael that doesn't have
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enough food and by generals and some of them listening
to me right now to donate. I have helped so
many people in this community through radio listeners bringing me
stuff for the community, and a a lot of them say,
you know, I just I just love doing for you
because what you do for your community. How many times
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I help young women with children and no help and
all that, and we can sit here with so much
anger Like that just kissed me when I see all
the anger I see now how they're treating tells the company,
how can you live? How can you go to bed
at night and sleep with this kind of anger?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
You know?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I thank God, Michael. When I lay my head on
my pillow at night, I can go to sleep with
sweep dreams because I've tried to help somebody. If it
wasn't anything, Michael.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
But a smile.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
You don't always have to have psalms together. It sometimes
all somebody needed a smile, and you walking around and
hear angry.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Many smiles to you, Joyce on your nineties second birthday.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
We love you with work.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
The effervation that I get from the show that I
don't seem to get from other places, The.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
She packed my bags last night.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Reflight zero our ninety am, and I'm going to be
high as a kite by then.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
I missed the card so much, I missed my wive.
It's lonely out space on such a time. I am bess.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Flight astronaut Clayton Anderson is our guest. With space being
in the news, who better to join the show. You
saw him on Fire News as their expert on the
matter last week. Clayton, let's start with your reaction emotionally, personally,
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professionally when you saw our astronauts come home last week.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
That was pretty thrilled.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
You know, I've been removed from that game for I
don't know, probably fifteen years now, but I replaced Sonny
as back in two thousand and seven when she had
finished her first flight. So I have a kindred spirit
with my space sister, and it was important for them
to get home safely after all that, and I'm glad
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they did.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I know, you stay up on NASA matters and space matters.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
What happened.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
My understanding is they were going up for a few days,
and nine months later they were stranded there.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Can you explain that?
Speaker 8 (17:53):
Yeah, I don't know if i'd use the word stranded,
but the star Liner, the Boeing star Liner, took them
up for an eight to ten day test flight with
a crew, and then they had thrust problems. So then
they said, well, let's keep them on there for a while,
which is an awesome answer, right to spend a couple
months on the space station while we look at the
Starliner and try to figure out what happened. So they
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do all that, and then they come to the conclusion
that well, you know, we're not going to be able
to fix the problems, and we don't want Butcher's Sonny
to risk coming back on the star Liner. And so
they send it back empty. Well, now they are stranded
for a brief period because they don't have a rescue craft.
You know, whenever you fly to the space station, the
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seat that you fly in to the station on is
your escape seat to go home. And so that's why
they needed the SpaceX crew to come up with two
empty seats so they could dock and stay there and
bring Butch and Sonny home. The thing I don't really
understand is why they made those that crew spend their
whole increment and made Butcher and Sonny spend that whole increment,
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which then drove for the nine months. That's a part
I don't know, and I'm not privy to.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
All Right, Clayton, if you wouldn't say they were stranded there,
what word would you use?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I would say they better word, that's more descriptive.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
Okay, So between the time when the star Liner left
and the time the SpaceX Dragon came up with two
empty seats, they were kind of stranded.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
So my bad.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
But once they get up there, there's plenty of food,
there's plenty of water, there's plenty of oxygen, there's plenty
of clothes, so you know, and it's a very safe environment.
We understand that environment. We've understood it for you know,
twenty something years now, so and they could contribute to
the mission objective of doing science and repair and maintenance
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and all those good things.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
When you.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
That's a long period of time, so there had to
have been provision made obviously for things like food and water.
Do you have any sense of the length of those provisions,
those stocks? I mean, how long could this have gone on?
Speaker 8 (20:08):
It can go on for quite a while. What we
have to understand is that the supply chain to get
supplies back and forth from the International Space Station was
never broken, right. Progress vehicles came from Russia, other vehicles
bring stuff up, so that part was intact. So there
was plenty of food, plenty of water, and they were
never worried from that aspect. I would imagine once they
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figured out Sonny and Butch were going to be there
for a while, they did a little bit of scrambling
to get clothing in their size and those sorts of
things on the next delivery vehicle to come up to them.
But once all that happened, it's pretty much steady as
she goes. Well.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
The problem with that is women will often lie about
their sizes because they don't want to be there. So you,
I guess you have to prepare on that account, you know,
and add a little extra fluff.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
Yeah, I'm sure that was done. You know.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
You know, I buy all my pants now with an
element that we didn't have growing up with the you know,
the Levi's, and it's it's a little a little stretch factor,
so they can they can stretch out or close up,
depending on how I'm doing that week. Maybe maybe they
did that.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Well.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
You know, it's funny. I lost both times I flew
five months and two weeks, and both times I lost
the same amount of weight twelve pounds when I got
up to space, and of course I gained it right
back when I came back to Earth.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
All Right, I have a question, and we're going to
handle this delicately, but we have to handle it because
I've always been curious. So you use whatever words you
want to use to keep it clinical. But how does
one how does one pass.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
A movement when you're up there.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
The same way you pass a movement when you're down here.
You just need a little bit of a vacuum cleaner.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Oh okay, and the same for the same for the pep.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
Yes, the pepe is you just pee into a hose
and it sucks it down into a can. And back
in those days we use kind of Russian kitty litter
was inside the can some form of absorption. And then
in the number two there's a plastic bag that has
holes in it, and the holes allow the fan to
draw the air through that bag, which then inflates or
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opens it so you can drop your addition into the
into the fray. And then you take all your clean
up things, your gauze, your toilet tissue, your gloves, all
those things, and you put it in that little plastic
bag and then you snap the top off. It has
a nice tight rubber band, and then you just push
it down into the can and you're good to go.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Anytime, are you anxious and tense when you're doing such
things or does it just become second nature.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
The very first time on the shuttle, I was scared
to death. I read that checklist one hundred times and
I made sure everything was good to go. It was
all successful, but I learned one thing, and that was
the next time I was going to go number two
on any space vehicle, I was getting naked I was
taken off everything because I didn't need anything inhibiting me.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Right, Interesting, how does it change you? How emotionally physically?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Anything like what are the things we would take for
granted or that we wouldn't notice that space does to you.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
Physically? I don't think much. For me my five months
and my rehabit took about three weeks coming home. I
think Sonny and Butch will probably have double that maybe.
But what it did for me was it strengthened my
faith in God. As I looked at Earth, all I
could think of was Man. None of this is random,
you know. You hear about the overview effect and the
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orbital perspective that astronauts talk about on occasion, and I
believe all that. All that's true. We're on spaceship, right,
we should take care of Earth. But for me, it
just strengthened my faith. You know, for a small town
kid from Nebraska that would end up in outer space
for one hundred and sixty seven days and have the
privilege of the things that I was exposed to and
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allowed to do, it's all about my faith.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, so much of life is, if viewed properly, an
opportunity to get to do something, and most people are
never going to go to space. But whatever that is,
and our ministry where it is, our life, where it is,
our influence where it is, and I think it's all
It goes back to talk about George Foreman and talk
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to Saja Sonny said Jewish, it's all about perspective, and
you have such a good perspective as an astronaut.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
You've used it to write children's books. We'll talk to
astronaut Clayton Anderson coming out.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
This is the Michael Barry shows Less as Shots.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Clayton.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
C not every day you get your own customized intro
by chance McLean.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Hey, that was pretty awesome take out.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You know we would license it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
We will license that to you for your own introductions,
for your speeches and things, if you would like, okay.
Clayton Conrad Anderson is a retired NASA astronaut Launchstone STS
one seventeen. He replaced Nunita Williams on June tenth, two
thousand seven, as a member of the ISS.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Expedition fifteen crew.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Currently an author, motivational speaker, and professor of practice at
Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa. Twenty twenty two, he
became the president and CEO of the Strategic Air Command
and Aerospace Museum. I just was reading from your wiki
Wikipedia profile. I don't know if you've if you've checked
that out in a while, Clayton, let me ask you
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a question.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
I wrote most of it.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
No, I wasn't going to say that. Let me ask
you a question. So in I don't know. Two thousand
and nine or so, Charles Bolden, who was then the
NSA or NASA director, I don't know if you knew
him or not. He gave an interview where he said
that President Trump had given him three goals and none
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of them were related to space travel or science. The
third being to tell the Muslim world that they have
a contribution historically to math and science and you know
that they matter. It was part of the Muslim outreach,
and I thought to myself, you know, a once great
space program has now been reduced to patting countries on
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the back so they feel good about themselves.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
What is the state of NASA today.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
That's a good question. I think there's some unknowns going
on with the new administration and the changes that have
done over the last few years, and the space launch
system is probably concerning given costs and schedule. I mean,
it's always about budget and money and schedule. And when
(27:41):
you have people like SpaceX and Blue Origin and Virgin
Galactic out there pushing the commercial envelope, I think all
that's good. I think it forces us to look at
things in a different light.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Do you think that space travel as we once knew it,
at least as as conducted by NASA is over?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And how do you see SpaceX fitting into all of that.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
I don't think it's over. I think that, you know,
having a presence in the federal government is important. You know,
if you look back at Challenger in Colombia, the reason
that we were able to continue on was because of
the push from the federal government. So I think it's
a combination. I think it's important that we have these
commercial space flight companies that are pushing the envelope and
(28:32):
showing us what's possible and bringing the prices down. Those
are all good things. Think about Orville and Wilbur at
Kitty Hawk in nineteen oh three when they food their
right flyer, and now think about what you can do
today on a commercial aircraft.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Right.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
None of that was believed to be possible back then,
but now it is. It's commercially driven and it's very
safe and used by many, many people. So I think
that's a good analogy. We're on the cusp of that,
we're on the beginning of that in spaceflight, where Orgle
and Wilbur might have been back in nineteen oh three.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
What do you make of Elon's ability to do the
things he's done as a private company on a lean budget.
And yet, I mean, you know, they're sure there are
failures along the way. NASA had failures. It's a dangerous business.
But I'm not a scientist. I don't have obviously the
(29:26):
experience you do, but I am in awe of what
they have accomplished. But I'm curious your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
I am too, you know, as an astronaut who flew
on the Space Shuttle and lived on the Space Station,
those were pretty incredible accomplishments. But if you look at
what he's done and the speed, the rate at which
he's done it, it's kind of unprecedented. Now, what folks
have to understand is statistically, down the road, there will
(29:54):
be a problem. There will be a death. You know,
someone will die. Just it's statistics, and we hope that
never happens, right, but I think it's inevitable. And then
how the recovery is from all of that is what's
important to me. You know. Does he take his millions
and go home or does he stay and fight the
battle and make it better and go again and all
(30:16):
those things. So it's like the explorers in America back
in the day when they started to move west across
the country, right, they were uncovering problems every day, and
they were fighting against things they didn't know existed. So
we're in that way in space travel. And I always
talk about the three ds of spaceflight, danger, difficulty, and dollars,
(30:37):
and those are very prevalent. We know it's dangerous, we
oftentimes figure out and fix the difficult, but it's all
about the dollars.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Clayton Anderson, astronaut Clayton Anderson's our guest. I have two
minutes left, so I'm going to be fast because I've
been wanting to ask you about this for a while.
So you served as an aquanaut during the NEMO five
mission on the Aquarius underwater Laboratory, living and working underwater
for fourteen days. Right, what is the future of our ability?
Jacques Cousteau style to go under the water and spend
(31:06):
any significant time there.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
I probably have less expertise. If I have any expertise.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
In anything, just make something up.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
Okay, it's fascinating. I think it's an extreme environment.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Right.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
Space and underwater are extreme environments outer space and inner space,
and those are perfect places to figure out what humans
can do, what we can stand, how much stress we
can take, how we work together with each other. They're
just great analogies for doing incredible things. So I think,
you know, we should live underwater too. In space and underwater,
(31:42):
I think they're both great venues.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
You know, the mind of a child and what inspires
a child, what they read, what they see, what they hear,
these sorts of things. I think you have to have
those things to light that fire in a young mind
and understand why math, science, physics and literature and all
these things are so incredibly important. Clayton Anderson, it's always
(32:06):
a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
We will have you back again. I appreciate you, sir.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
I appreciate you, Michael, and my best to the King
of Ding as well.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
You got it, astronaut Clayton Anderson. Our guest there.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Faeta writes I just wanted to share with you that
my amazing Aunt Dale turned one hundred yesterday. We had
a lovely party. She's an amazing woman and has more
years ahead. Faetta Thanish and she included a picture of
the adorable adorable Aunt Dale and Aunt Dale has a
sash on like she's.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Just won the Miss America contest. Debbie writes, I'm listening
to the sweetest lady on your show.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
She's talking about Joyce to say to Sunnyside, and I'm
thinking about my own mom. FYI Sally Atkins, the fisher
woman from Cold Spring. She was ninety eight in October
and continues to be so happy. She finds the good
in each day, still living alone, going to get those
nails done, and living.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Life to the fullest.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Sometimes she'll say, I just can't believe I'm still here.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Lol. I don't need a response from this email.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
It was just on my mind after listening to this
cute lady this morning. Such inspiration from these older people
who make a choice for happiness each day.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
That be Walmart
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