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November 18, 2025 30 mins

Hair politics, Harris County scandals, immigration ops with Dr. Seuss names, and aging rock stars in stretchy pants—Michael Berry brings humor and hard truths about culture, corruption, and America’s skilled trade crisis.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time time lucking load. So Michael
Verie Show is on the air, like to kiss you,
but I just washed my hair.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Fine, let me explain something to white people. Our hair
comes out of our head naturally in a curly pattern.
So when we're straightening it to follow your beauty standards,
we are trapped by the straightness.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm going to wash that man right out of my hair.
I'm going to wash that man right out of my hair.
I'm going to wash that man right out of my
hair and send him on his way.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
That's why so many of us can't swim and we
run away from the water. People won't go to the
gym because we're trying to keep our hair straight. For y'all,
it is exhausting, and it's so expensive and it takes
up so much time. Braids are for y'all, so we
can work harder and focus on the work. Don't tell

(01:05):
me how to wear my hair, don't wonder about it,
don't touch it.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Just I'm going to wash that man right out of
my heir. I'm going to wash that man right out
of my here. I'm going to wash that man right
out of my hair and send him on his way.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
We have to start educating people about all kinds of beauty. Yes,
and our beauty is so powerful and so unique that
it is that it is worthy of a conversation, and
it's worthy of demanding the respect that we're old for.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Who we are and what we offer to the world.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Let me tell you something, For the first time in
my adult life, I am proud of my country because
it feels like hope is.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Finally making a comeback.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
I guess it's more interesting to imagine this conflicted situation
here and a strong woman and a you know, but
that's been an image that people have tried to paint
of me since, you know, the day Barack announced that
I'm some angry black woman.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
It's the story that I witness every single day when
I wake up in a house that was built.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
By slaves, people line up for my advice, and.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
You you're walking away like I'm stupid.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's like I've written books, I've given speeches. Don't even
look at me about running because you all are lying.
You're not ready for a woman. You are not, so
don't waste my time.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
I'm going to wash that man right out of my hair.
I'm going to wash that man right on, I'm my hair.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Twice a year.

Speaker 7 (02:58):
Can you imagine how long it takes to get out
of the undid and redid and waxed out and booked
and on and shin and all that ear I'll put back.

Speaker 8 (03:06):
Into a shoe.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
ABC's Micah ABC thirteen's Micah Hatfield filed a Freedom of
Information Act request for emails from Lena at Algo's office,
along with the office of other Harris County commissioners, over
the issue of for instance, Harris Health Systems plan to
condemn nine acres of Herman park land next to ben

(03:36):
Top Hospital so the county can expand the hospital. Uh
spoiler alert, insider deals. Some people are gonna get rich
off of Lena's office sent emails that redacted paragraphs. They
just kept information out of there that the public is

(03:57):
entitled to know on the basis that, well, you know,
deliberative process. But Adrian Garcia's office didn't redact that information.
So now you can lay the two documents side by side.
That's the moment when you realize, wait a second, they're

(04:17):
not providing information readily available as required by the law.
Adrian garcia staffer has problems with what Lena's office redacted, saying,
I do have a hard time believing that there was
something that would be so particularly sensitive that would require
this whole rigmarole, and that's why they didn't redact it.

(04:40):
But Lena hid Allgo did, and that tells you everything.

Speaker 9 (04:45):
ABC thirteen broke the news back in July about Harris
Health's plans to condemn nine acres of Herman Park adjacent
to Bin Tobb to expand the hospital.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
The land donated to the city by a.

Speaker 9 (04:56):
Houstonian in nineteen fourteen was supposed to go back to
the FAMI if it was no longer needed as parkland,
per the deed. Sources told ABC thirteen at the time
that these plans had been in the works for years,
but the family of the donor says they only found
out about the plans to condemn the land from us
this summer.

Speaker 8 (05:15):
We wanted to know who knew what.

Speaker 9 (05:17):
When thirteen investigates sent public records requests to all four
Harris County commissioners and Judge Lena Hidalgo's office for copies
of emails mentioning Herman Park, the Tobb family, and other
keywords related to the plans, we got nine emails back
from Precinct two Commissioner Adrian Garcia's office.

Speaker 10 (05:37):
Taxpayers are paying for this to work to be done.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I should know what's going on.

Speaker 9 (05:40):
The emails included this one from the President and CEO
of Harris Health canceling a press conference scheduled for June
and replacing it with one at the end of July
after the presumed approval to condemn.

Speaker 8 (05:51):
The Parkland quote.

Speaker 9 (05:53):
Your participation in this press conference is essential to show
community support for this important and historic exc mansion for
needed health access for all residents of Harris County end quote.
What appears to be the same email also sent to
Judge Hidalgo's office.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Was released to us. We only know because we can.

Speaker 9 (06:12):
See bits and pieces the rest her office redacted or
blocked out. They cited deliberative process, which essentially means opinions, recommendations,
or conversations that are part of policy making or coming
to a decision. So why did Commissioner Garcia's office release
it without issue and Judge Hitdalgo's didn't.

Speaker 10 (06:30):
I do have a hard time believing that there was
something that would be soap tiquar sensitive that would require
this whole rigamarole We're more of the opinion that would
just put the stuff out there.

Speaker 11 (06:41):
Education.

Speaker 9 (06:42):
Remember when Judge Hidalgo tried to get a penny tax
pass to fund daycares. Shortly after, we asked Judge Hitdalgo's
office for emails mentioning the words property tax, taxes, childhood,
and ARPA. This was one of the emails we got back.
You see it's blacked out. They redacted one version of it,
but included it a second time, and.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
It shows questions that a member.

Speaker 9 (07:03):
Of her staff has to get answers to related to
the dress code for events. Her office said it was
redacted because it was a policy making document. But what
does knowing the dress code have to do with Harris
County policies? Thirteen investigates also asked for emails between Judge
Hidalgo her top staffers in Baker Ripley, that's one of
the partners in the early Childhood program. Her office sent

(07:26):
us almost two thousand pages worth of emails.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
We looked through.

Speaker 9 (07:30):
Them and didn't find anything notable. They also asked the
Attorney General's office if they can withhold part of what
we requested. Two months later, the Attorney General said they
have to release it. We get it. It's one email
between staff at Baker Ripley and Hidalgo's office with phone
numbers in it for two parents, but nothing else notable.

(07:50):
Why not redact it like they did all the others.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
We told you about good work, Micah Hatfield, ABC thirteen.
They hide things because they have things to hide. There
is a proper place for a person like Queen and

(08:13):
Hidalgo in that is prison, and she really needs to
go there with some other folks on that court.

Speaker 8 (08:23):
Michael and why.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
US Customs who order protection kicked off a major immigration
enforce enforcement operation in Charlotte, North Carolina, this weekend, and
on day one, agents arrested eighty one people. Officials say
many of those taken into custody had serious criminal or
immigration histories. The operation, called Charlotte's Web, began early Saturday morning.

(08:49):
Commander Gregory Bovino, who's overseeing the effort, so the arrests
are just the start, and promised more details on social
media as the operation continues. By Sunday morning, agents were
already back out making additional arrests. Bolvino posted updates on
his x feed, highlighting several individuals he described as having
prior criminal records. In one post, he wrote criminal illegal

(09:10):
aliens shop too. This is why border security matters. This
is why we're in Charlotte. A press conference was held
to address the other immigration enforcement operations around the country,
and we have it. Good afternoon, everybody, and thank you
for being here.

Speaker 12 (09:28):
I know it's been a busy weekend with the completion
of Operation Charlotte's Web in North Carolina. And while I
cannot discuss on going enforcement details, I can't share the
updated list of federal operations conducted in recent months. Let's
go through them. Operation Horton, here's a who else is
here illegally? During the sweep, agents listen carefully and detected
voices coming from an area no bigger than a speck.
Upon investigation, it became clear Horton was not the only

(09:51):
one who had heard something. Then we completed Operation brown Bear,
Brown Bear, what do you see? Upon contact, the suspect
appeared startled and stated ice ice agent looking at me.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
The statement was accurate and noted in the report.

Speaker 12 (10:03):
We also wrapped up Operation Curious George gets a one
way ticket. The subject displayed continued curiosity about violating federal law.
That curiosity has now been resolved. In a larger multi
state effort, we launched Operation Green Eggs and scram The
subject refused every order to exit the van. Not here
or there, not in a chair, not on the street,
not on his feet, not in the rain, and not

(10:25):
on the plane. Agents insist at all the same, and
he has been processed. Operation the Very Hungry Border Crawler.
Agents tracked the subject, whose behavior mirror the familiar children's story,
getting with small crossings, then increasingly larger and more ambitious attempts.
By the end of the week, the individual had crawled
through fences, brush lines, irrigation ditches, and one abandoned chicken coop.
After several days of the pattern of the individual finally

(10:46):
emerged in custody. Next on our list, Operation Peekaboo Ice
sees You suspects repeatedly hid behind doors, furniture, and one
large houseplant. Briefly successful but ultimately ineffective, And we end
on one of the more controversial missions. We executed Operation
if you give a mouse of deportation hearing that's predicted.
He asked for a translator, then a lawyer, then asylum,

(11:06):
then a snack, and then a ride home. This operation
remains ongoing. That concludes the briefing everybody. If there are
no further questions, we'll reconvene tomorrow to discuss operation.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Where the wild things went? I have a good afternoon,
everybod now. The CEO of Ford Voters, Jim Barley, says
they have five thousand mechanic jobs paying one hundred twenty
thousand dollars per year that they simply cannot fill. As
of this morning, we had five thousand openings. A bay
with a lift and tools and no one to work
in it. One hundred and twenty thousand dollars a job

(11:37):
a year, but it takes you five years to learn it.

Speaker 13 (11:42):
The essential economy. We are in trouble in our country.
We are not talking about this enough. We have over
a million openings in critical jobs, emergency services, trucking, factory workers, plumbers,
electricians and tradesmen is a very serious thing.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Or we do not have trade schools.

Speaker 13 (12:02):
We are not investing in educating a next generation of
people like my grandfather who had nothing, who built a
middle class life and a future for his family. Those
jobs are out there. Mechanics in a Ford dealership. As
of this morning, we had five thousand openings a bay
with a lift and tools and no one to work

(12:23):
in it.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 13 (12:24):
Oh, one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a job a year,
but it takes you five years to learn it. Take
a diesel out of a super duty. It takes a
lot of skill. You need to know what you're doing.
And God forbid we ever get in a war. Google's
not gonna be able to make the tanks and the planes.
So this is a self defense for our country issue.

(12:45):
But how I think about it is if we work
together like we always have in America, we shine a
light on the problem and we start getting people together
like we did it accelerate here in Detroit, like minded
people with similar problems. Roger Pence, you lots about the CEOs,
and we get after this with the government with education.

(13:05):
I think we can solve this. But we have a
lot of work to do. And I'm very humbled and
late in my life, these jobs gave me the ability
to go through Guidchat school, and we are in deep
trouble when you compare us to China.

Speaker 9 (13:20):
Now you've made moves at Ford to kind of follow
the Henry Ford.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
I do see this problem and I think it's a
serious one. It's an education problem. It's also a cultural problem.
I think that for so long, even people in the
trades who made a good living, maybe built their own
company plumbing, electrical, mechanical, but they wanted that the sign

(13:51):
the impromoter of success, and that was that you wear
a suit when you go to an office and you
have a college to go. And so once that person
does that, they don't think they should ever use their
hands again. So I spoke to the Independent Electrical Contractors
Association a few years ago. The guys at pool wires

(14:12):
for non union electrical electrical jobs, and it was the
graduating class, and they were I don't remember forty guys there,
thirty eight of them guys, two women, let's say, and
seventy percent of them more Hispanic first generation families. I don't.
I guess white kids think they just shouldn't do jobs

(14:34):
like this. I don't you get a four year degree
and what are you going to do separately? If this
does not make you think of Tawny Katain, then you've
probably seen the freckle on pete butter gigs left buttchee.

(14:55):
I mean, if that does not revenue of for Tony Katain,
I don't know what. After a nearly fifty year run,
seventy four year old White Snake front man David Coverdale
says it's time for him to hang up his platform
shoes in skin tight jeans and enjoy his retirement.

Speaker 11 (15:17):
Betteris and gentlemen, boys and girls, brothers and sisters of
the Snake, special announcement for you. After fifty years plus
of incredible journey with you with Deep Purple with White
Snake Jimmy Page, the last few years has been very
evident to me that it's time really for me to
hang up my rock and roll platform shoes and my

(15:40):
skin tight jeans. And as you can see, we've taken
care of the lions Wig lions Wig, but it's time
for me to call her today. I love you, Deally.
I thank everyone who's assisted and supported me on this
incredible journey, all the musicians, the crew, the fan, the family.

(16:01):
It's amazing. But it really is time for me to
just enjoy my retirement, and I hope you can appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Once again. I love you with all my heart fairly. Well, translation,
I'm gonna wait a few months, soak all this up
and I'll do one special show, but at ten times
the revenues, we'll come out of retirement. But just for

(16:30):
one I thought I saw the or would have seen
I sold the tickets Stones in eighty nine when they
were on their final tour. There's been a final touring
for a long time. Now. I'll tell you who played
that right? Who played that deftly? Was Robert Earl? Keane

(16:52):
Robert Earl. Just all of a sudden, all right, I'm done.
It's been a good run. I've enjoyed it. You guys
are great. Wait no, whoa hey, wait, the last five
times you've been through town, I haven't have a bothered
to get over there. I was big, I was shoot
dang it. Then a year later, uh hey, Robert Earl's

(17:16):
going to do one show, just one, but now it's
going to cost a whole lot more. And he does,
I don't know, a couple of shows a year makes
a bunch of money, doesn't tour, no grind, no headache.
It's a wonderful thing, man, it's and he handled it right.

(17:36):
And he has so much goodwill. There is so much
goodwill because his songs have meant so much to people.
When I hear Robert Earl. I'm thinking of driving up
two ninety on a on a weekend day, seeing the
blue bonnets and driving up into the Oh that's a.
That's a. Or driving out I ten towards San anton

(17:56):
or all the way to Uvaldi. I said, that's a
good feeling. He was there with you when you did
all that. I got to tell you, there's nothing wrong
speaking of David Coverdale and White Snake, there's nothing wrong
with the aging artists continuing to perform. A lot of
people love to say he needs retire. They said that

(18:17):
about Brett Farv. No, maybe you need to retire as
a fan. If people are willing to pay for the ticket,
why do why don't you just not buy a ticket?
Why is it important to you? Well, it's going to
ruin his legacy. That is the dumbest thing ever. What's
your legacy? Just out of curacy, what's your legacy? Because
whatever it is, you're ruining it with this stupid statement.

(18:40):
When Farv came out of retirement and they said, oh,
it's gonna be terrible, It's gonna be terrible, It's gonna
be terrible. Well, first of all, the jets were interesting
for the first time in a while. And then he
went to the Vikings and damned if he didn't almost
get him back to the super Bowl, and he was
having fun. The team decided he gave them the best

(19:01):
chance of winning, and that's really the only person that matters.
That and the fans and fans we're excited to see him,
except for Packers fans, and that's only because he's good.
I've never understood this desire to tell people you know,
I want you. I want you to be someone I
really like and I'm a big fan of. But the
second you hit a certain age, I want you to

(19:21):
just go away and your life doesn't matter, because you're
really just a commodity to me. It would be better
if I could be wistful for you ever coming back,
But you don't come back. That's stupid. I mean, that
kind of logic is just stupid. Anyway. I don't I
don't see a problem with these old rockers getting up there.
I don't think rockers today will be doing that. I

(19:42):
love that Coverdale's up at seventy four years old, prancing
around or kiss or Mick Jagger for that matter. But
what people get a kick out of is they're up
there in leather and they stay skinny. You know, drugs
will do that. And they're prancing around like they're still
in their twenties. I think it would be funny if
these guys sang songs that were more age appropriate. Now,

(20:03):
that'd be funny.

Speaker 14 (20:13):
She's destroy the stage and leather, now stretch waste the weather.
One shook my heaves like a thunder storm. Now my
lota back just e is I'm still screamed, like I
said it for all but the mussing ball knees after
every young car on the road. And now I'll just
form my pills and another one for my hitting pet thrills.

Speaker 8 (20:33):
Oh a little spotlights in my face.

Speaker 14 (20:38):
I feel flicker my glory days.

Speaker 8 (20:43):
I can't tell, but I chant kind of sway.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
They'd be rocking the road just.

Speaker 8 (20:49):
As I'm still on the rushold but saying it's like
you now I'm checking on the sill.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Not but I need have somewhere in the thing can
sell some.

Speaker 8 (21:14):
With other painting, So.

Speaker 11 (21:17):
Got passion.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
The American turn up the baby show because they found
that to something. Remember when my cheams were painted on?

(21:40):
Now think but if they don't cut.

Speaker 7 (21:41):
Off circulation the hair still, but the dream still roar.
Or even if my Cairo practures on tour croopies, they're
asking me for it by some nil raised lumbar support
still sun grasped with.

Speaker 8 (21:54):
A shaky hand.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
But hey, legends tremble. That's the brand every ring.

Speaker 15 (21:59):
Coats when it comes to beards, briskets and berry. Letting
it all hang out, going against the grain is what
we do.

Speaker 8 (22:16):
On the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Freddy Fingers tent four years in prison just making it big,
you know, fifty nine, He gets arrested in sixty driving
through Louisiana, basic traffic stop, three marijuana joints, three marijuana
joints in a little cigarette pouch. Four years in Angola,

(22:46):
picking crops out in the brutal Louisiana heat for four years,
got out. Industry loved him, They helped him make it,
helped him make his way back, lost some momentum, but
went on to great things. Did Baltimore with the it's

(23:07):
amazing story. You'd think how many lives were ruined over
something so minor. Four years of your life, wife, kids, Well, Mike, oh,
we shouldn't break the law. Guarantee the person saying that

(23:30):
if you followed them twenty four hours a day, seven
days a week, you could find something they did, some
TICKI tac thing that people do that they think is
kind of cute. I don't understand that. I don't understand that.
But I don't feel the need to imprison people. I
don't feel the need to. I'm not a hall monitor.
It's a hall monitor mindset. One of the worst worst

(23:53):
things you can be. Joyce the Sage of Sunnyside. It
is always a treat, my dear.

Speaker 6 (23:58):
Hi, Mike, I'm doing good.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
I'm going to give you the floor, and if you
don't mind, we'll put a little gravy underneath you.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
But I can I can hear it. I can very
hear you.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
You can barely hear me. All right, the floor is
yours choice taken away.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
You know, Michael, I'm ninety two years old, and I
have never with this the degree of hate in my country,
in my city, in my nation that I see today
every time I turn on the TV. There is just hate, hate, hate,

(24:41):
and a lot of this hate. It is Donald Trump.
I mean, you know, I thank God that I don't
live with that kind of and I look at people
with so much hate and I said, you just don't
have the joy, the peace that I have. You can't

(25:02):
hand it with that kind of hate. And I don't
I And and to me, hatred blocks out common sense
because some of the proof stupidity that I'm looking at,
I just, you know, someone somewhere, Michael, I just feel
sadden for them that they're so filled with hate that

(25:26):
they can't see the joy, they can't see the beauty
around them. Uh, this is a great nation, this is
the greatest nation on this granit, So why can't we
just enjoy it? You know, just enjoy life? You know,

(25:47):
I don't. You know, I have a ministry and I
donate to people and and sometimes.

Speaker 16 (25:53):
I go there and there is such anger.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
And now I'm thinking, you know, I'm sure a tease
bringing you something that someone has donated to you. And
you're sitting here in some of my age. And that's
what disturbs me more, Michael, when I see people my
age with all this hatred and a and a and

(26:19):
in my community.

Speaker 16 (26:21):
It it it just really disturbs me.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
The hatred. And it's always Trump hadn't did anything for us,
Do something for yourself and then you won't be looking
for somebody else to do for you do for yourself.
But that that that's my main thing. And Michael, I've
been doing a.

Speaker 16 (26:39):
Lot of uh of speaking on let's get rid of
this hate, because you know, I I I I'm thinking
hate because I mean these young people to try to
take Trump's life.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
But the hate is the result of Kirk even gone
down like a straight dog. So less get really hate
and less less the deal the things that have happened
in your life. You can't do anything about the past,
but you can sure do something about the future. So

(27:17):
that's where I am today, Michael, and thanks for listening.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
It's always a pleasure, you know, Joyce, in those ninety
two years, I don't know how you're different than you
were at eighty two, seventy two, sixty two, fifty two,
going all the way by, But I since that, you know,
I have you and I have had conversation, you had
sweet young lady murdered, You've you've struggled, you have lived

(27:46):
through diff difficult times at very different times, and I
feel like at each stage it just polishes you more.
You've grown in wisdom and perspective, and that's that's what
life should do for us. You've not born scars with
bitterness or resentment. You have grown wiser by the day,
and that's why we always enjoy hearing from you. You know,

(28:15):
I don't think she could hear me very well. Unfortunately,
you know, she had a problem the other day. Remember
I don't think she could hear when I went on.
I do need to do a better job of speaking
directly into the phone, into the phone, into the microphone.
So I will I will bear, I will bear the
blame for that. I am noticing that the mailers are

(28:40):
going out now for the spring primary, the Republican primary
to be the Republican candidate in the election next November.
And boy, oh boy, some of these people barely mention
their own names. It's just Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald Trump. Okay,
I agree, I'll vote for you, whoever you are. What's
your name? Let see, because it's mostly Trump, lot of Trump.

(29:05):
Somebody sent me a Mazed Middleton Mayler that he was
sending is calling himself Maga Maze. I don't remember him
being Maga Mazed before, but he's Macams now that that
felt that odd. We're in the holiday season and we're
already in the spring primary, and nobody is more thankful
for President Trump than John Wayne mccornyn.

Speaker 12 (29:28):
This thanksgiving, one politician is more thankful for President Donald
John Trump than anyone else alive, and that man is
Senator John Wayne mccornyn. John Wayne mccornyn is thankful for
the photoshop picture of him and President Trump standing side
by side in their fight to secure our border.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
John Wayne mccornyn.

Speaker 12 (29:49):
Is thankful for the exclusive Mara Lago buffet coupon he
bought on eBay. John Wayne mccorny is thankful for his
new golden retriever, the one he named Don John Wayne mccorny,
and is thankful for fourteen of the fifteen seasons of
The Apprentice. He refuses to watch the season that doesn't
feature President Trump. And of course, John Wayne mccornyt is

(30:10):
thankful for the chance to say I agree with the
President before he knows what the President even said. John
Wayne mccornyy he may not read bills, he may not
write bills, and he definitely doesn't understand bills, but he
will retweet Trump at three am with lightning speed if
it gets your vote, because loyalty matters.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Especially when it pulls well. How about the fact that
they thought they could pull a wool over people's eyes.
He votes with Donald Trump ninety nine percent of the time,
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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