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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For some reason or another, you sign a little toll
on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I spoke to Sam at Big City Wings during the break,
and the simple answer is a chicken tender or chicken finger.
Different people call them different things. The bigger is simply
a bigger cut like a two ounce of a chicken breast.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
The chicken.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
The boneless chicken wing is still basically the same thing,
a hand formed, smaller piece of breast. It's typically about
half the size, so if you want to reduce it
to words, we grew up with, a boneless chicken wing
is in essence a chicken nugget. But adult men don't

(00:57):
want to eat chicken nuggets, and that's what little kids eat,
and a restaurant that doesn't serve food that the little
kids want, and we ate chicken nuggets from McDonald's when
we were a kid, and everybody knew that that chicken
nugget was just whatever bung holes and eyeballs was left over,

(01:18):
and it was pressed into like a long John silver patty.
It was pressed into a nugget. Well, in order to
get people out of that mindset. A higher quality meat
than the chicken wing than the chicken breast, is hand
formed into a smaller chicken tender. Now, he did say
that their chicken tender is not dipped in buttermilk. The

(01:43):
chicken tender is because the chicken tender people expect that.
You know, there's there's more pizazz to that. So hopefully
that resolves that issue. Seven one three nine nine nine
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you're there. Let's start with Raymond. Raymond, you are on

(02:05):
the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Go ahead, sir. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I just want to give a shout out to my
son in law. He just became an HPD officer last
night graduated. I'm very proud of him.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Fantastic.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Also want to thank you, Yeah, I also want to
thank you for advertising Berna. I just received my burner
l and being a felon a thirty year old credit
card abuse felony, I am not allowed to carry a
legal weapon, but I can carry that burner, so if
I take my wife somewhere at least I can stop
the threat. And I'm happy about that. So thank you

(02:39):
for advertising that.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
I love it, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Raymond, my brother used to say that there are too many.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
People who will willy nilly.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Will will reference killing someone as if you know you
just killed the person, walk off and go, hey, go
pick that turn up and send him to the morgue.
It takes a toll emotionally and legally. You don't want
to have to do it now. You know the old rule.
You'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six,

(03:12):
or maybe it's vice versa, But the point is you'd
rather kill the other guy when it comes to that
than have to worry about being on trial. The trial
would be the least of your worries. But the point
is it's not something we do lightly, and in a
lot of occasions we can. We can stop a threat
without having to kill somebody. And Berna sends me constant

(03:35):
updates on success stories that people will share with them.
One of the big ones is that people who walk
their neighborhood that has that have idiots that they let
their dogs run loose in the neighborhood and eventually the
dog runs up on them. There are plenty of cases
of guys having to use a burner gun. You'd rather
not have to shoot and kill that dog if you can,
if you can help it. Congratulations to your son in law.

(03:56):
That's that's very cool, my man, and thank.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
You for the feedback. Kevin.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Let's go to Kevin. Hold On, Kevin, you're on the
Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Go ahead, sir.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Yeah, Hey, Michael. I just had the privilege of taking
a trip to Italy and in Italy we went to
McDonald's and they were serving what they called a chicken tender,
but it was the bone. It was the bone in
chicken wing. And we're looking around and it's like they're
serving these in Happy Mills and you know, with the
bone wing, but they were calling them chicken tenders, totally different,

(04:30):
and I'm thinking, man, this is this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, you do know that McDonald's probably more than any
other international food company that they have local teams when
they bring the product into the market. They have local
teams that are looking at the cuisine and what the
palette is already accustomed to. I never forget the first
time I went to a fast food restaurant in India.

(04:55):
The first one I went to was called Whimpy's, which
is a British concept, and then the America concepts started
coming there, but it's very different. I mean, you got
masala sauces, you got you know, you got all sorts
of spices. Speaking of which, today is the first day
of Holy and Shirley qu Licker sent along a very
nice greeting to our Indian listeners. We'll get to that
in the next segment of Jim Remembers Cole. You're on

(05:17):
the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 6 (05:18):
Go ahead, sir, Hi, sir you, I have a question
for you, and you tend to have the better feel
for what's what's able to happen in Texas. But I've
always been a fan of this flat tax. You know,
I don't care if it's twenty twenty five percent, whatever,
but get rid of all of the property taxes, business taxes,

(05:40):
everything else. Is that ever going to be possible for
the state of Texas on a.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
State wide level?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I mean, it's more likely on a state wide level
than it is federal. Why don't you flesh this out
for a moment. What would that? Did you just have
flat tax?

Speaker 6 (05:55):
Yes, sir, twenty that would be flat. And here's how
you would calculate it. Here's how you calculate it. You
take the taxes what Texas needs for a budget. You
divide that by last year's Texas GDP and you get
a percentage that would be the sales tax number. And
it's it's perfectly accurate. No more, Hold on thirty, hold.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
On, hold on.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
It's a flat tax of what you're gonna have to tax.
Are you taxing income orre you taxing sales?

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah, sales sales tax.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Okay, so you're gonna have a sales tax of obviously
it's going to be higher and eight and a quarter,
So you're gonna you're gonna try to get there through
your sales. I mean, could it be done, Yes, it
could be done. Will it be done?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (06:44):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
The benefit to a sales tax the the the thing
that commends a sales tax is it's a consumption tax,
which means it's a tax that the user chooses to pay.
If you don't want to pay that tax, don't spend money.
And that might sound like an arrogant thing to say,
but it actually is true. So you say, look, I
don't I don't want to spend more on taxes, Well,

(07:06):
then don't buy the new car or don't buy the
new whatever that thing is that you spend consumption taxes.
That the knock on consumption taxes that economists will give
you is that it's very hard to stabilize your tax
base because consumption will vary.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Them.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
Michael Berry, I'm a chocolate freak.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Let's go to Jennifer. Jennifer, you are on the Michael
Berry Show. Sweetheart, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (07:40):
Hie, Michael, I was laughing.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
I'm an r N.

Speaker 8 (07:42):
I didn't call in about that, but Shirley cu'es got
me laughing about the r ns and the full moon.
It's true, true, I called it is definitely true. Are
we to believe it? I'm actually go ahead. I'm actually
working at mental health right now. So I can tell
you some story. But you gotta let me brag on
my kid first.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Okay, I'm kid. Then I want to come back to this.

Speaker 8 (08:05):
Okay, So my kid's Jase. I called months ago and
we called Ms Patterson. So well, today though I put
him on a plane. He is flying by himself to
Pittsburgh to go see his daddy. And he's only eight
and he's braving the plane and he got a little
nervous right before he got on. But he said, you know,

(08:26):
I got this I'm ready, and I gave him a
kiss and I let him go, and I'm just so
proud of He's so independent, and he's so mature for
his age, and I'm just I couldn't be more proud, you.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Know, Jennifer. I was just reading, rereading, which I do
every few years, Andrew Carnegie's How to Win Friends and
Influence People, and he's years of study of human behavior.
He came to the conclusion that people aspire to good

(08:58):
feedback more than they fear bad feedback. Now that's not
to say that discipline on a football team or in
the military, that there aren't places for that, but he
makes the point that a compliment is worth much more
than a constructive criticism critique. And it's interesting when a child, Okay,

(09:25):
you take this DJ Daniel, this kid who the president
deputized as a secret Service agent. His dad clearly is
coping with him having a terminal brain cancer by indulging
his wish to be a police officer. He was at
nine hundred and nine deputizations and the only thing keeping

(09:48):
them from getting to a thousand, which is his goal,
is they got to spend time with each one to
go get the badge.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Put on. He's going to get to a thousand.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
But that kid has become nationally famous.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Out of all this.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
He was over at Republic Repoot Republic Boot Company getting
fitted for new boots.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
The other day.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
They're making him a jacket. They have a custom suit
shop inside there. They're making him a jacket that he
got a cowboy hat. So he is now driven, as
we all are, to seek more applause based on his
appreciation for law enforcement, promotion of law enforcement, and willingness

(10:31):
to battle quietly brain cancer and the treatment.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
That goes with it.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
So what you're doing with this kid is once you
said to him, this is a good kid, or once
miss Patterson at the school called him down and said
he needs to come to principal's office and then you know,
gives him a very stern lecturer that you are a
wonderful kid, and we want we want to recognize the good,
not the bad. It's it's a bit of a turning
of the tables. But you know, I think a lot
of kids get into trouble as a cry for attention,

(11:00):
maybe not cry for help, a cry for attention and
nothing that they do, Nothing that they do ever measures up.
Nothing they do ever gets them applause because that is
what is expected. So all you're doing is what is expected,
and there's never a compliment, but we all live by compliment.

(11:20):
You look at a dog, you know, people think, oh,
that dog is so smart, that trainer's so brilliant. Do
you know it's just like a seal. Every time he
does what you want him to do, you give him food,
which is what drives him. That's you use a very
positive affirmation to get people to do what we want.
I think the fact that you are so willing to

(11:42):
give praise for good behaviors has started him on a
track where he says, I'm a good kid. The first
time my kids got a's in class, they realize, wait
a second, I can do this, and everyone brags on
me when I do this, and that's the transform transformation,
and I think so many parents.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
There is a.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
There's a piece called Father Forgets, and I'll look it
up in just a moment. It's mentioned in Actually it's
a chapter in How to Win Friends and Influence People,
and it's about the power of positive parenting. Now, I'm
not one of these people that believes that you just
keep telling a little billy that he's great all the time,

(12:26):
and when he's not, you just keep asking him to
be great. I think they need their little butts shipped.
I think they need stern talking to it. I think
they need things withhell that matter to them. I think
all of those things are an important part of the
mix to good parenting, and you have to use every
tool in the toolbox. But I think sometimes we forget

(12:47):
that we can set a kid on a course, the
right course by not just saying constantly what they're doing wrong.
Let's give them an opportunity to get a hit, and
then that turns into a double and and a scored run,
and then all of a sudden that kid says, oh,
this is more fun than striking out. When I strike out,

(13:07):
I get yelled at, but at least I get noticed.
So maybe, just maybe, maybe I'm gonna hit the batting
cage more so I can get more hits, so I
can get because that's when the that's when the crowd cheers.
And so I think they're they're varying competing ways of parenting.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
But you deserve a lot of credit for that.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
And Miss Patterson, God bless miss Patterson.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
She was wonderful, welcome, it is open.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
Wide the Michael Berry Show, want to be a fight
and breathe bnand's uh.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
So I got a message from Eddie Martini during the break.
It said Dale Carnegie, not Andrew Carnegie. Well, I know
that I'm reading the damn book. What happens is when
I'm talking, I'm usually trying to lay my hands on
whatever I'm next going to talk about, or I'm looking

(14:01):
for a sheet that has a detail on it, and
so I'm just finishing out that sentence, but my brain
is somewhere else. So you just kind of free associate
and get it wrong. Yesterday, apparently I have to take
people's words for it when they correct me. I got
an email this morning that you said that Ron Brown
died as Commerce Secretary in a car wreck. It was

(14:25):
a plane crash. Well I know it was a plane crash,
and I thought I said it was a plane crash.
So what I need y'all to do is when I
get a detail wrong that you figure I should have known,
just assume I knew. Just to assume I never make
mistakes and that I always knew.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
And you don't want to be the person.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
That tells me that I because that seems like quibbling,
and you don't want to be that, So just always
assume he knows the real answer. That's a good rule
of thumb. Jim Jay here on the Michael Berry Show.
Go ahead, we're the.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
Same age, and I know how it is. Yeah, can
you hear me? H?

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, go ahead?

Speaker 7 (15:02):
Okay, all right, you and I are the same age,
so I know how it is when you get things
a little off. And as much as you talk, occasionally
you're going to say something wrong. So don't feel bad
about it. Hey, I was calling to give you a
report from the Texas Hill Country. It's spring break here,
and uh, I know that it's one of your favorite

(15:23):
places to visit, and uh we're having just a beautiful
h We've got water in the river and I've got
some condos for sale on the river, so uh, I
want to make sure that everybody knows that. And actually,
your buddy Levi Good actually stayed in one of them.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
What what's it called online?

Speaker 7 (15:45):
Realguad dot com is our website. Yep, And so uh are.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
You Jay Gambrel?

Speaker 4 (15:54):
That is me? All right?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Did you build these?

Speaker 4 (15:58):
I did? Yep.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
We built It's part of an existing complex and so
we went from having thirty six units and we added
these nine units, and we've sold one of them, and
they're just at a beautiful spot on the Guadaloupe right
across from the bluff.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
How much frontage do you have?

Speaker 7 (16:23):
Five acres in front? Probably about three hundred and fifty
feet something like that.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Okay, So I'm looking at your site. I see the condo.
So let me break this down. Got to make it
real simple for me. So so let's let's carve out
what you called about. Let's talk about what was there before.
How much land did you own before?

Speaker 7 (16:48):
I owned two and a half acres, but the area
in front of the river, the condo complex already owned,
and so we put.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
The you owned individual condo unit or do you own
the entirety of the.

Speaker 7 (17:01):
Property right now? Thirty seven of the forty five units
are owned by individual people, and then eight of them
is what I own?

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Correct? Okay?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
And how did you nagregate those? Did you buy them
one by one?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
No?

Speaker 7 (17:18):
I built that fifth building. So we built a building
that has nine condos on it and added it to
the complex, and we've sold one of them, and so
we have eight of those left. So I had the
opportunity to buy the land, and then I had a
contractor build me the building. The building is identical to
the other buildings that are already built.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
So.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
You're fetching pretty good prices. It's not quite Aspen or
Palm Beach, but was pretty good. The Cypress at five
forty River Run fourteen hundred square feet for six thirty four.
But you've got another one, the Pecan at five forty
River Run twelve eighty two square feet three to two for.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Five ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
It's not the highest in the country, but that's a
that's I mean, you've got to be setting you got
to be pegging a new price per square foot there.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I'd have to run the numbers there. What would that be?

Speaker 7 (18:11):
Five hundred So it's a little over four hundred square foot. Yeah,
the one that we sold it, it's sold for six
twenty four or five sore.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
While they're for sale.

Speaker 7 (18:26):
No, we've got some that are staged. You might see
some pictures that where they're stage, but we're not running them.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
That's quite the kid one. Are they finished?

Speaker 7 (18:37):
Yeah they're finished? Yeah, yeah, there it. You know, we
owe a little money on them, but who is we
We don't my wife and I and then another couples, couple.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Whether you have a day job.

Speaker 7 (18:56):
I do. I work for Ford Motor Company. We've worked
for them for twenty six years.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
What do you do there?

Speaker 7 (19:03):
I sell money, So I deal with commercial customers and
I want to make sure that they have plenty money
to buy Ford vehicles.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
So you're in Ford Motor credit.

Speaker 7 (19:15):
Correct, That is correct?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
It says short term okay, short term rentals. Okay, So
those short term rentals are the units you own that
you're not selling right now.

Speaker 7 (19:29):
So what that means is if you're an investor and
you want to be able to do like.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
That, that's part of the pitch deck.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I got it.

Speaker 7 (19:35):
Yeah, yeah, that you can you can invest, then you
of course use it for yourself.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
So about and you're pegging.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
You're pegging.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Let me ask you a couple of quick, short, punchy questions.
You're pegging the rents at an average of about four
hundred here it looks like a little a little.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
Above, yes, probably five hundred for the three bedrooms during
the summer, more on holiday weekends.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
And what would you estimate it is the number of years,
a number of nights per year that you could expect
one of these to rent.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
I would say at least one hundred nights a year.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Really, yeah, Jay, are you selling me?

Speaker 4 (20:14):
What is?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
What is the time.

Speaker 7 (20:17):
You're going to get from from Memorial Day to Labor Day?
You're going to get ninety days right there. So and
you you probably can expect at least eighty percent occupancy
during those summer months, and so then the rest of
the year, and like we have winter Texans that come
down here and spend two or three months in one.
Of course, you're not going to get five hundred a

(20:38):
night that time of year, but if you want to
keep it full, then you can rent it for you know,
I don't know, two thousand a month or something like that.
It's just really a nice, peaceful spot on the river.
I actually live in one of.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
These units, Okay, So you're I have one.

Speaker 7 (20:55):
Yeah, I live here in the building next door to
the one that I So my wife and I live here.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
So you work from home, I do.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
I've worked from home before it was cool. Since two
thousand and four, we don't have an office down here,
and so in order to be able to see my
dealers and my customers, I've been in this market since
two thousand and four.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Interesting, So how far are you from? What is Fredericksburg
your nearest town or what's your nearest town?

Speaker 7 (21:26):
Well, we're near Kenyon Lake.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I'm sorry, I just saw the.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
Yeah, we're on the very edge of New Bronfles so
we're not in the city limits, but yet we're about
two miles from the Canyon Lake. Dan, We're a little
about an hour and fifteen minutes from Fredericksburg. But Kenyan
Lake is really you know, Roger Craiger kind of writes
a little song about coming out here and how beautiful

(21:51):
it is. So it's really sad to hear about his dad.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
All Right, I want to I'll email me off there.
I want to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I got complaints a year or two ago from listeners
that they were lowering the lake and folks were losing
their mind.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Kind of curious what ended up happening with that?

Speaker 9 (22:11):
The Michael Berry brings your bias.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
So I received an email from a fellow home.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
The subject line is tips should be tabs by using
insurer tips infers that you paid in advance, so insurers
should be changed to acknowledge. Hence tips should be changed
to taps. It's spelled taps the second time he writes

(22:43):
it tabs tabs the first time. I don't understand what
that means. I love to read listener emails because it's
great show preps. Sometimes it's funny. Sometimes it's a reference
to something that I go find and it works perfectly
for the show. But I don't think people realize when
they sit down to write me a message or do

(23:04):
it on their phone, that this message is coming completely
out of context, so they give you no context.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Oh that's a.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Really good point. Have you thought about X. What's a
really good point? I have no idea, you know, because
it made sense to you. But our show team, when
they send me something, because it's coming from every different direction,
gives me the context in reference to this point. Please
consider this anyway. I wouldn't care so much if I

(23:34):
didn't love listener emails. And it bothers me when someone
takes the time to write an email and I have
to delete it and go no idea what he's talking about. AJ,
you're on the Michael Berry Show, Go ahead, sir.

Speaker 10 (23:44):
Heh, yeah, good mornings are I know this is in
one of those I truly believe days but I figured
i'd get this out there.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I think hold on, AJ, hold on, AJ, Can you
hold just a second, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, Jim. You
know what we ought to do. We ought to do,
and I truly believe. Have you got our I truly believe, Handy.
If you don't, I'll do it on my own. Okay,
hold on, Jim's getting our actually believed intro. Just stay
right there, yep, this one.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Just hold on one and all the Michael Berry Show
presents are truly so AJ.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
It is now officially one of those. I truly believe segments.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Go ahead, my.

Speaker 10 (24:42):
Man, Okay, here we go. I truly believe President Trump
did wrong. He should have named it Golf of Dixie.
That's all I got.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I I like it, and maybe we do uh for
New Mexico. We make it new that'd work. How come
we have no girls today, Jim? What's going on with
the ladies? We're not scoring well.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
With the ladies. All right, let's go to Pete.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Pete.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
You're on the Michael Berry Show. What you got, sir?
We got Pete on the truth every day.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Okay, I'm sorry, start over, you weren't pay Go ahead
and start over.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
Oh, my apologies, Michael. I just want to say thank
you for everything you do shedding light on truth and
on evil in this world. Hey, thirty three years in
the restaurant industry, I've stepped away, and I can tell
you where chicken tenders come from.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Buddy, what is your last name?

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Pete?

Speaker 9 (25:40):
You chicken breast proccer.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Boys?

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Which boys for Tita boys?

Speaker 9 (25:48):
Let's spend ten years to stall crash for them?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Oh did you really?

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (25:53):
I did.

Speaker 9 (25:53):
I was running sugar Land up until about twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
You know there.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
My understanding is that is one of the most profitable
concepts they have because and this is what this is
what I think the average consumer doesn't understand.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
So you got.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Let's let's take a high end steakhouse, Vic and Anthony's Right,
which for many years was my favorite steakhouse back in
the day.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
I would go there.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Oh, you used to get smoke down there downtown. I
still when I go to Gold Nugget, I still eat it.
Vic and Anthony's Pappas Brothers has a great steakhouse.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
People.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Would you know that would be a competitor for the
great steakhouses? And people love to say that this or
that steakhouse is the best. And you have to understand
as a business, you know, there's places that are white tablecloth,
and then there's McDonald's, and then there's price points all between,
and the trick is to find that proper price point

(26:51):
and the value and the customer that all line up
in Salt Grass is perfect because it doesn't try to
be what it's not, and it is to the people
who go there exactly what it is. So I would
take my parents to Golden Nugget Lake Charles because not
very far from them, and it was always a fun
weekend for us to go there. And I would take

(27:13):
them to Vic and Anthony's. And then the next night
I'd say, all right, I know y'all need some downtime.
Why don't y'all go back to Vic and Anthony's or whatever.
I'm paying for it. So it's not like they needed
to save the money. And they would slide over to
Saltgrass because that's where they feel comfortable. That's where they felt,
you know, they didn't have to they didn't have to
sit up quite so quite so straight. And I see,

(27:36):
I now see that you know, the price point is everything.
I can ask Russell Lebara what is the price point
of gringoes compared to this, compared to this, compared to this?
And he can tell you and customers know that. And
so the trick is finding that little niche which is
which is your exact price point? And Salt Grass seems
to have mastered that. And what do you do now,

(27:58):
Pete Proctor?

Speaker 9 (28:00):
I do recruiting for a company called Sublind Personnel, and
we're placing you know, a wide variety of things, including
hospitality and insurance.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
And why did you get out of the business. You
had equity built up personally anyway.

Speaker 9 (28:16):
You know, working eighty ninety hours a week each up
at about fifty.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Five years old.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Buddy, don't I know it.

Speaker 9 (28:23):
Got You got to rein it in At some point.
I had a granddaughter born and am a senior and
she was two.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's not a young man's business. People don't understand, you know,
if people, if everybody, should have.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
To do a number of things.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Coach little league because it'll make you less squawky out
in the stands umpire a game because then you won't
question every call. Be a homeowners association president, be a
room mom boy. I tell you what that was a
learning experience from my wife. You know, be the PTA president,
everybody should have to do a number of things, and
one of those is hospitality. And I'm not saying that

(28:56):
restaurants should be sloppy. I'm not saying that they shouldn't
care about the the food and the service. But people
love to bitch. It's almost as if that's part of
the thrill to going out. And I wonder, sometimes, do
you understand how difficult this is? And if I came
to your house you couldn't even get one meal, right,
you know you'd send me the I know I messed

(29:16):
up on this. I know it is a tough, tough,
tough business. And this was probably your greatest regret or
greatest frustration, and you got labor. You can't help the
fact that there are a bunch of numbskulls coming out
and you're trying to motivate them, train them, pay them
well enough, and get them to show up when all
they want to do is everything. But that, I mean,

(29:37):
that's a tough business. I get why you would leave.

Speaker 9 (29:41):
Yeah, And there's an answer to both of those equations.
When it comes to the guests. You got to be
at the table as a manager. Checking on every meal
course delivered. And with the employees, you got to talk
them in the position and out a position every day,
and you got to share a vision with them. And
if they don't have that vision that you're looking at,
which is perfect food going out, that's garner strike, that
looks good, hot, they're putting anything on a place because

(30:02):
that's what they're doing at the other place they.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Look Yet, Yeah, it's a tough business, you know. I
admire you for making it that long.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
It is.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I'm a very different consumer after the RCC than now
because I see how difficult it is. And I have
a real appreciation for the Tillmans and the russell of
Barros and the matt Bryce's and the big city wings,
the folks who can deliver consistently high quality food, not

(30:31):
perfect and not every time, but consistently high quality food.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
It's wow, is it? Is it ever? A tough business?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
I mean, I know there are tougher businesses, but it's
a tough business. And also understanding that you're on the
backs of people who this isn't in most cases not
going to be their career. They're in a transitional stage,
all right. Seven one three, nine, nine nine one thousand,
and you can email them through the website Michael Berryshow
dot com.
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