November 18, 2025 • 33 mins
A Texas man stops a Dairy Queen robbery with a chair, Michael Berry reflects on the Aggie Bonfire tragedy, and a University of Houston fraternity faces shutdown after hazing. Plus, wild listener stories on initiation rituals.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Dairy Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
This story is made much better because it's a dairy
queen satan Toone man uses a wood chair to whack
a masked robber armed with a metal pipe inside a
dairy queen.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'll let KABB TV tell you the story.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Dairy Queen may be known for their blizzards, but the
chilling in calendar with a pipe wielding robber is enough
to freeze anyone in their tracks.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Do we have to do that?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Son?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I realize you're excited to be a journalist. Did you
make a list? If he was doing it ironically, I
could get it. How bad is this going to be?
It's going to have a chilling effect that could freeze
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any bad guy.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Dairy Queen may be known for their blizzards, but the
chilling in calendar with a pipe wielding robber is enough
to freeze anyone in their tracks.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Mother, find a worry and don't hoping nobody got hurt
or none of the kids and stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
He's in the restaurant for only a few minutes. But
what the guy who's apparently trying to help himself to
free money does it know there's a fearless customer watching
his every move now.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
I said that he came around the corner around the
counter and she moved back, and she was saying that
if you're not gonna give him the money.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
He's not your typical hero, no suit, no Kate, but
dairy queen customer Christopher Ortiz is plotting his move watching
them on camera, pacing in a tank top and sliders
with socks, seemingly staring down his prey. I asked Chris
what made him pounds?
Speaker 7 (02:24):
I heard a.
Speaker 8 (02:24):
Pipe faw and I looked up and he was walking
up to the street with it, and I guess he
started telling her something or whatever, and I didn't know what.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Was going on.
Speaker 8 (02:34):
I really thought he was asking her for a couple
of water or something. And then she said, there's kids.
And then when I heard that, that's when I reacted.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
It's pipe versus chair a showdown the alleged Robert never
sees coming. Listen to what's caught on camera after Chris
casually grabs his wooden four legged weapon of choice. That's
the sound of a perfect strike to the back, echoing
stunned onlookers, breathing a sigh of relief. Chris walks me
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through his life saving actions.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
What if he had a weapon, our gun?
Speaker 9 (03:10):
Well, you had nothing on you, just this chair. Nothing,
pretty happy chair though they were able to swing that thing.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Yeah, I mean for people that.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It was heaving today.
Speaker 9 (03:21):
Yeah, this is not easy to swing. This is not
your typical chair and look at a bank or this
is heavy, this is wood.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Man, do you feel like a hero for what you did?
Speaker 8 (03:31):
Yeah? Kind of.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
I'll fro proudly. But I'm glad he did it. A
lot of people won't do it and stuff. They're just
stay away and don't mind her own business and stuff.
So I appreciate that he did what he did. Say
my assistant, it could have been worse than stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Mary Rios calls him a hero. She's a customer who
learned about what Chris did.
Speaker 10 (03:53):
Well, I think that.
Speaker 11 (03:56):
He just wanted to protect other people into hisself and
even the share is heavy, so I guess, you know,
just to within the people.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
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Speaker 2 (04:44):
How do you feel.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
What's going through your mind right now? What's going through
your mind.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
That feels good?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
In a world where most pull out phones, he picked
up a chair.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
One thousand dollars.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
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Speaker 2 (05:08):
Ramon, can you play the opening of that again?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Dairy Queen may be known for their blizzards, but the
chilling encounter with a pipe wielding robber is enough to
freeze anyone.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
In the track. My goodness, I hate when people do that.
That is the worst.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
When they find words that fit with that and they
deliver it like they're so proud of it, That is
the absolute worst thing ever. Anyway, The Michael Berry Show
received exclusive audio of the good Samaritan that stopped the robbery.
Let's just say it was a bad day for the
loser who decided to rob a Texas dairy queen.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Seriously, you're robbing a dairy queen. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You weren't yourself a belt buster? What did the five
steak fingers say to the face heard you had a
sweet tooth. But it's your lucky day now serving peanut
butter nut buster? Oh how about a banana? Split your
head open?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Hey, where are you going?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You didn't even touch your blizzard top of cracked nuts.
Twenty sixth anniversary of Bonfire. We say it every year,
We'll say it again. Traditions are important, They're meaningful, they matter,
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They create deep connection. You go to any school that
doesn't have deep traditions, say hey, what would you pay
for Texas tradition? An A and M tradition? What would
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you pay to have one of these deep, rich traditions
like what they do at you know, the ring ceremony
this past weekend for the ages. He worth a lot
of money.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Nil.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
If you could just import that, if you could give
your alumni that level of connection to the school man,
you'd pay anything for it. I understand it. It was
a horrible thing. But I also think that a lot
of people make knee jerk reactions like this because it
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is easier to do that than to figure out a
nuanced way to navigate how to make this happen, how
to make this tradition continue, how to give alumni something
very special. It is inherently dangerous, but I don't know
(07:47):
if you noticed this. It's inherently dangerous for three hundred
pound men to fly around a field smashing each other
at every different direction, but we do it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It liberal tiers.
Speaker 11 (08:06):
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and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
And this is the Michael Berry Show. Twenty six years
ago today. The Aggie Bomb Bar collapse.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
That approximately two forty two am November eighteenth, nineteen ninety nine,
the fifty nine foot high stack consisting of about five
thousand logs collapse during construction of the fifty eight students
and former students working on the stack. Twelve were killed,
twenty seven injured. Immediately after the collapse, emergency medical technicians
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and trained first responders to the Texas A and M
Emergency Care Team. A student run volunteer service who staffed
each stage of construction, administered first aid. Temmick alerted the
university police and University EMS, also a student run service,
who dispatched all remaining university medics and requested mutual aid
from these surrounding agencies. In addition the mutual aid received
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from the college station in Brian, Texas EMS, fire and
police departments, members of Texas Task Force one, the state's
elite emergency response team, arrived to assist the efforts.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
The twelve who.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Died This was ninety nine Miranda Denise Adams two, so
she would have been a freshman. I guess Christopher D.
Breen who had graduated three earlier. Three years earlier. Oh,
she must have been a sophomore. Miranda Michael Stephen Ebanks
who was scheduled too, so he was a freshman.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
He's three.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Jeremy Richard Frampton a senior, Jamie Lynn Hand freshman, Christopher
Lee Hurd freshman, Timothy Doren Curley junior, a freshman, Lucas
John Kimmel freshman, Brian McLean a sophomore, Chad Powell a freshman,
Jerry Don's self a junior, and Nathan Scott West a sophomore. Yeah,
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he'd be in a sophomore at that point. It's a
terrible tragedy, it is. But I think you have to
have the approach in life that we're all going to die,
and you try to mitigate risks, but you balance that
against the positive.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Every time you get into your automobile. It is dangerous.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I think there is a fear a failure that prevents
most things. Many things that are the most fun are
inherently dangerous. There's no reason to make them more so.
But there are a lot of things we do that
are dangerous, and people have a lot of fun, and
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then there's one error and that thing has to be stopped.
So it was good until there was an error. Bungee
jumping for some reason, people do that. Jumping out of
airplanes for some reason, people do that, and they talk
about how much san joy it. They overcame their fears.
This bonfire, I never went to it, but it was
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just the kind of thing at which A and M excels.
Creating community across multiple generations.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's a hard thing to do.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
The University of Houston's pie capa Phi fraternity has been
shut down after a hazing incident led to a person
being hospitalized.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
KHOU with a story. This is a timeline of what
we know at this point.
Speaker 12 (11:45):
On November third, and on UAH student was hospitalized following
alleged hazing activities. The student was later released from the hospital.
The reported conduct includes physical abuse, force consumption, and public humiliation.
On November sixth, the fraternity that first to themselves as
Pikes was placed on suspension by its governing body. That
same day, the university started its investigations. On Friday, the
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chapter membership voted to close the chapter at u of
h This is video from Fraternity Road Tonight. We called
student officers from the Pike chapter, but they declined to comment.
A statement from the University of Houston Region part quote,
the events investigated are deeply disturbing and represent a clear
violation of our community standards.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
While only a small group of students.
Speaker 12 (12:29):
Are alleged to be involved, the university does not tolerate
hazing in any form. The university says what happens to
the students will be addressed after the outcome of the
investigation is released. Those disciplinary actions can include up to
expulsion and maybe even some criminal charges.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Hazing stupid right, I think, especially women's why do you
do these stupid things? Because it's not natural to women,
it is natural to men. It can go too far,
often does the concept of hazing, teasing, whatever you want
to call that initiation? We have that in every aspect
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of life, your first day of kindergarten, first day of
any school, when you join an organization, there is a
concept of rights of passage, and some people just take
it too far. Simple as that. So what is your
hazing story? Could have been at work, could have been
in the military.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
What do they ever do?
Speaker 13 (13:33):
It could have been in a.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Fraternity, fraternity that didn't sell like me, did it?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Seven one three nine nine one thousand, seven one three
nine one thousand, Get right to your point sometimes a story.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Like this, But oh boy, I got a story for you. Wait,
I got two minutes, maybe less than that. How about
we get right to it.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Oh boy, I got a story. What is your hazing initiation?
Whatever the term was used, story? Seven one three nine
nine one thousand, seven one three nine nine, one thousand.
As luck would have it, in our connections in law
enforcement at the University of Houston, we may have received
security footage of that hazing at.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
This point, you may be asking yourself why am I
holding this thirty pounds cinder block in my hands?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
You might also ask yourself why does this cinder block
have a long piece.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Of string.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Tied to it?
Speaker 12 (14:39):
And finally, why is the other end of this string
tied securely to.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Your and the answer, ladies, is trust.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
This is your first test.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Do you trust that we've.
Speaker 14 (15:02):
Provided you with enough slacks and your block will land.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Safely on the lawn? Sir, Yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And Blue, yes, sir? Do you trust it?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I don't want to see you die here tonight. Sorry, yes, sir, Blue,
you're my boy.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
Tank your shirt.
Speaker 14 (15:18):
But oh thanks, says to the end, I just prepared
to release Why dude, great relate?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
We did?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh my god, true Texas original, true national treasure.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Don't messing around with the old.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
This is the Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
After a hazing incident at the University of Houston got
the Pikes kicked off campus, we have asked for your
hazing story. It doesn't have to be infraternity. It could
be at any point in life, your first day somewhere.
Animals do it. Animals do it in every different way
you look at how they often receive or induct others
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into their pack. There are different rituals in every organization.
Gangs do it, football team sporting events are sporting teams
do it.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
May not like it, but it is the nature. It
is a very masculine thing.
Speaker 15 (16:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I have heard sororities can be as bad as fraternities,
and these days, from what I hear, they're worse. But
that was not historically the case, Mike Earl the Michael
Berry Show, What's Your Story?
Speaker 15 (17:06):
Yeah, I changed high schools my junior year and.
Speaker 16 (17:11):
Was popular kind of right away.
Speaker 17 (17:12):
The girls took a liking to me, but the guys didn't,
and they.
Speaker 18 (17:20):
Hates me here, ask me whatever.
Speaker 16 (17:21):
You want to call it, picked on me.
Speaker 10 (17:24):
And then.
Speaker 16 (17:27):
One of the guys that wasn't as much a jerk
asked me to join the football team. And I love football,
and I joined, and and that's where they really took
a beating on me. Was was on the football field
during practice.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Well, I suspect it made you a better man, Mike. Generally,
I find that pushing through awful things like that makes
you a better man. Other I had a friend of
mine tell me that he and his brother and the
friend down the road used to pick on these guys
that lived a street over. It's not funny, I guess,
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but it's funny. They used to pick on these two
kids lived a street or two over and ten years old.
Ten years later, those guys committed a murder several and
they did it with knives, and they had stabbed a
guy like two hundred times.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It was clearly a rage.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And so my buddy says, you think that rage was
that a random stranger they never met all at their
old neighbor two blocks over.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You better keep your eyes out. Do you have to
build or you're up?
Speaker 15 (18:38):
Sir?
Speaker 19 (18:39):
All right, sir, so I was in a fraternity obviously
university at steven f And one of our big things
is we were an Innawa house kind of motivation on
that one and we were doing our freshman grab, which
means you're getting a new pledge on that one, and
we have alcohol and everything else over in that area
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he is, and the pledge decided to take it upon
himself to just like John belucy chug a zero point
seventy five of Jack Daniels and decided to go unconscious
and die on site. And uh, we got in trouble
for that one.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, but hey, it's it's all, as Randy Rogers says,
it's all for the sake of the story.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Billy, what's your story?
Speaker 7 (19:27):
My story is?
Speaker 13 (19:27):
Uh, Billy, I can't hear you back, and I have
long hair.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Hold on, Billy, did you fall in the whill? Billy?
Speaker 7 (19:39):
I can't hear you.
Speaker 13 (19:41):
So we were having a rotary party while we were drilling,
hanging a lamp, Billy and Brilla I had looked at me.
He said, jo, I'm just sick of our hair.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's why he got.
Speaker 13 (19:53):
Billy, you dune and uh, And they cut it off
with the you going, Billy.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You sound like the teacher on Charlie Brown. We can't
understand you, Billy, Billy, are you there?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Billy? Did you lose my number? Billy? Don't be a hero, Billy?
Where'd you go?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I wonder if Billy Billy doesn't strike me as being
computer savvy, so like me, he probably couldn't figure out
how to get back to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
But I would love for Billy to go back and
listen to that call. Well, I didn't even hear myself. No,
that's the point. We kind of wanted to hear you.
This is one of those features where the caller is
the show Tasha in Portland. You're up, sweetheart, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Good good morning. I was working in a kitchen with
a bunch of hisporic gentlemen, and they didn't like when
in the kitchen, and so they put a plate in
the oven for who knows how long, and then stuck
it just at the right time on the top of
the stock where I was going to grab a plate
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to plate some food, and I grabbed a hold of
that screaming hot plate and burnt my fingerprints off and
they were howling, laughing so hard.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Schadenfreud, that's the German word for the fact that we
find humor in the failings, pain, embarrassment of others. The
sort of thing that the Germans could grasp and give
voice to better than perhaps any other culture, because it's
a complicated thing. What is it about watching someone bust
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their Asset's so funny you think about it.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
What is that Roger? You're on the Michael Berry Show?
What's say you?
Speaker 15 (21:48):
Sir ya?
Speaker 17 (21:50):
Back in the mid nineties when I was in the military,
rabbed it for a brig right out of airborne school.
They would take you in and they would have to
build what they call qualifying.
Speaker 18 (22:01):
Like the bear Koala.
Speaker 17 (22:02):
And what they do is they make you drink about
a twelve pack of beer, you and a bunch of
other new guys, and we'd go out the woods and
they'd make you shimmy up a pine tree backwards and
hanging there for about two minutes, and whoever lasted the
longest was accepted into the group.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Isn't that funny? What is it in our brain makes
us do that? Very Happy birthday today.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
To Dan Pastorini's longtime girlfriend, the beautiful Pam Morse.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Dante said, do not say her age. She will kill you.
So I will not say her age. But I'm going
to tell you this.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
If I were Pam Morse's age and I looked ten
percent as good as she does, you better believe I'd
tell it. I'd tell everybody everywhere all the time. She
is absolutely stunning. They'll leave the house and Nonita will say,
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how can it be possible? How can it be possible
that she is that beautiful.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
At that age.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It's you've literally never in your life seen someone reach
this age and retain such beauty ever, literally ever, not
on TV, not in person not in magazines.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Truth is Pastorini looks pretty good for being was eighty seven.
Now it was pretty darn good himself. That and that
I don't understand. I do not understand that, he said.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
He said.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I said, hey, as all right if I wish pay
him Happy birthday. He said, yeah, but I want to
get to hear it. I'm at the dentist. I said, oh,
you'll be there for a while because he's had all
sorts of problems with his teeth. You know, with people
like that that are used to having their ass kissed,
you got to get a little nudge here, and a
little hazing here and there.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
As it were.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
One thousand, you're hazing or whatever else. She works at
the Ralph Lauren store in the gallery. So if you
see Pam today, you'll notice her striking, beautiful blonde. You'll
notice her go up and say happy birthday, but just
don't say what.
Speaker 10 (24:25):
Years Michael Barry.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
After the pipes were kicked off of the University of
Houston campus for hazing that hospitalized. Remember we've asked you
a question about initiations in school into an organization, into
a cult, into the.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Military, whatever that may be.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
First day of work when the old timers gave you grief,
gave you a nuggie, whatever that was. There was a
guy and his name was Chris Shaw, which I later
knew a Chris Shaw who runs good Company. But I
believe his name was Chris Shaw. I'm not positive on that,
but I'm pretty sure went to college with him. And
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he was walking into his fraternity. Oh no, no, into
another fraternity, but it was an open party. I wasn't
a fraternity guy, so I don't really know all rules.
But he's going into a party where he is authorized
to be, and the president of a particular fraternity is
very drunk, and he's standing out front wanting to show
out for his buddies, and the frontal lobe cortex is
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not yet developed. Young men make really stupid decisions and
they are inexplicable. You just hope you can keep them
within the limits and get them raised up fast enough
that they understand that that's not a good move. The
upside downside of that ledger that does not balance. And
the president of the fraternity decides he's going to hit
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my classman. I would say friend, but we weren't buddies.
I just we were in class together, and I watched
the whole thing go down. After he's hit, he hits
him in the forehead, whereupon he shatters the forehead and
almost killed this guy, my classmate. He was hospitalized for
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a very long that's you. That's when they used to
let you stay in the hospital. Remember today, they'd go
for an hour already, all right, go home, we're gonna
charge you five hundred thousand dollars. Well first they'd say,
with no beds, and then they'd send you home after
charging you five hundred thousand dollars. He stayed in the
hospital for a long time. He lost a full year
of school recovering from this. Now I think he got
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a nice paycheck out of the deal. But that case
was heavy on my mind in law school. When you
learn the case, which every lawyer will tell you because
they were once a law student, the case of the
eggshell plaintiff, and every case has a lesson that you
should learn from that case, and the case of the
eggshell plaintiff was that you take your victim as you
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see him, or as you find him. Take your victim
as you find him. So what happens is this guy
walks up similar story, hits the guy's head, head splits
open and did more damage than it would do to
you or me because we have normal we have a
normal cranium. And the ruling was, when you walk up
and hit somebody in the head, you assume the risk
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that they might not have a normally typically size or
strength tensil forehead. So if they have an eggshell thick
forehead and you hit them and it kills them, you're
still just as liable. Your response can't be what hell,
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that wouldn't have killed somebody else. Okay, somebody's got to
assume that risk, and you're going to you take your
victim as you find them.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
So anyway, there's really no point of that.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I just always enjoyed that story. Thomas, you're on the
Michael Berry Show. Tell me your story.
Speaker 10 (28:00):
I'm in this fraternal experience here, but two quick comments
and now I'll tell the story that Number one, I
love my fraternity. Number two is that the hazing is
just a small percentage of the greater good that goes
on with the fraternity. So, you know, this happened to
be hell night. You know, we knew what was coming,
and we were pretty nervous. We were pledges and walking
into a house full of active so we had hell night.
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We got it coming and all right, we're a little nervous,
so we crowd up, get into the into the kitchen,
and we're all bunched up pretty good. But everybody's drinking,
smoking scars, et cetera. And then somehow I get I
got shoved a little bit in the back and I
was shoved right into a burning cigar. The guy had
it in his mouth, and man, it hit me on
the edge of my nose and it burned my nose.
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And I had a burn mark on my nose for
a week walking around campus. So that was just a
bad deal. But all in all, a good experience with
the fraternity.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That's that's by and large what I've heard.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
But you do have to be careful because whatever your
limit is, young men are always going to go pass that.
So the moment you normalize somebody getting killed, you know,
or somebody getting seriously injured, you know, within reason, it's
a constant, but it's always a constant when you're dealing
with young men, and that's hard for people to understand.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
When you're fifty four years old, you're passing.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Judgment on an eighteen year old college kid or marine
or vocational student as to you know what they've done, Well, hell,
they're eighteen. There's only two things you're thinking about at eighteen,
and one of them is taking up ninety nine percent
of your time and energy, and it is drawing you
more than any addict ever could. And women will never
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understand that, ever, understand that it is pure nature instinct.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And this is again where we have allowed the.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Conversation to be skewed away from real because you have
women who don't under have no basis, no knowledge in
any of this, who have made it such that these
things can't be talked about.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Well, they can be talked about right here. Ramon on
the Michael Berry's Yo.
Speaker 15 (30:11):
By god, Greg, you're up, hey, Michael, how's it going good.
Speaker 18 (30:18):
My story is back in the early eighties, while going
through the process and training to become a journeyman lineman,
when you were a helper or apprentice, it was very
The guys on the crew would grab you, hold you down,
pull your pants down, and put some rubber gloves on
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and paint your pecker. But the kicker is what they
would use to paint you. Wasn't just paint.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
It was that.
Speaker 18 (30:45):
Remember that ol mathiolate came in the little bottle you
put on if you monkey bus yourself or something they
put you, they put that mathiolate on you.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
You know, there's something about.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
There's something about hazing and initiation with dudes that always
involves the pecker that if you were to study it,
there's something kind of partially gay about the whole thing
if you think about it, because the amount of things
related to violating the bunghole are in some way exposing
and messing with the peter are not normal.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
What I say normal, I guess they're.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Common, but there is something there that that has always
made me a little bit suspicious as to exactly what
that's about. My dad, because he's diabetic, had to be
very careful with wound care because diabetics don't have the
blood flow.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
They know if you don't get blood to.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
A wound, that won't heal, and diabetics have trouble healing anyway,
And so there was monkey blood at the ready at
all times in our home.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Tom you're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, Oh, Michael.
Speaker 15 (31:55):
My first day on the pipeline, when I got out
of hospital and young Nickpen. We were on kid and
the wilder told me to go with the sky hood
that's in the crew next to it. So I took
off full well going There ain't nothing to call the
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sky hood, but I went to that crew. They set
me too, the crew up the line, the next crew
of the line. I spent half a day walking down
the line until the spread man throws up and said,
what the heck are you doing down here? I said,
I'm looking for the sky hook. You said, get in
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my truck when we go back to where I was
supposed to be. So uh, that's my hazing experience. But Michael,
we took the George challenge at my house with my wife.
I said, to the way along it.
Speaker 19 (32:55):
All right?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
So one three nine nine, one thousand year talking
It's that time time, time luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Dairy Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
This story is made much better because it's a dairy
queen satan Toone man uses a wood chair to whack
a masked robber armed with a metal pipe inside a
dairy queen.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'll let KABB TV tell you the story.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Dairy Queen may be known for their blizzards, but the
chilling in calendar with a pipe wielding robber is enough
to freeze anyone in their tracks.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Do we have to do that?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Son?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I realize you're excited to be a journalist. Did you
make a list? If he was doing it ironically, I
could get it. How bad is this going to be?
It's going to have a chilling effect that could freeze
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any bad guy.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Dairy Queen may be known for their blizzards, but the
chilling in calendar with a pipe wielding robber is enough
to freeze anyone in their tracks.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Mother, find a worry and don't hoping nobody got hurt
or none of the kids and stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
He's in the restaurant for only a few minutes. But
what the guy who's apparently trying to help himself to
free money does it know there's a fearless customer watching
his every move now.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
I said that he came around the corner around the
counter and she moved back, and she was saying that
if you're not gonna give him the money.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
He's not your typical hero, no suit, no Kate, but
dairy queen customer Christopher Ortiz is plotting his move watching
them on camera, pacing in a tank top and sliders
with socks, seemingly staring down his prey. I asked Chris
what made him pounds?
Speaker 7 (02:24):
I heard a.
Speaker 8 (02:24):
Pipe faw and I looked up and he was walking
up to the street with it, and I guess he
started telling her something or whatever, and I didn't know what.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Was going on.
Speaker 8 (02:34):
I really thought he was asking her for a couple
of water or something. And then she said, there's kids.
And then when I heard that, that's when I reacted.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
It's pipe versus chair a showdown the alleged Robert never
sees coming. Listen to what's caught on camera after Chris
casually grabs his wooden four legged weapon of choice. That's
the sound of a perfect strike to the back, echoing
stunned onlookers, breathing a sigh of relief. Chris walks me
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through his life saving actions.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
What if he had a weapon, our gun?
Speaker 9 (03:10):
Well, you had nothing on you, just this chair. Nothing,
pretty happy chair though they were able to swing that thing.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Yeah, I mean for people that.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It was heaving today.
Speaker 9 (03:21):
Yeah, this is not easy to swing. This is not
your typical chair and look at a bank or this
is heavy, this is wood.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Man, do you feel like a hero for what you did?
Speaker 8 (03:31):
Yeah? Kind of.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
I'll fro proudly. But I'm glad he did it. A
lot of people won't do it and stuff. They're just
stay away and don't mind her own business and stuff.
So I appreciate that he did what he did. Say
my assistant, it could have been worse than stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Mary Rios calls him a hero. She's a customer who
learned about what Chris did.
Speaker 10 (03:53):
Well, I think that.
Speaker 11 (03:56):
He just wanted to protect other people into hisself and
even the share is heavy, so I guess, you know,
just to within the people.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
His selfless act to protect strangers is the reason for
this cash for kindness surprise.
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Speaker 7 (04:43):
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Speaker 2 (04:44):
How do you feel.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
What's going through your mind right now? What's going through
your mind.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
That feels good?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
In a world where most pull out phones, he picked
up a chair.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
One thousand dollars.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Decis is proving it pays to be kind, do the
right thing. You hope people out.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Ramon, can you play the opening of that again?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Dairy Queen may be known for their blizzards, but the
chilling encounter with a pipe wielding robber is enough to
freeze anyone.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
In the track. My goodness, I hate when people do that.
That is the worst.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
When they find words that fit with that and they
deliver it like they're so proud of it, That is
the absolute worst thing ever. Anyway, The Michael Berry Show
received exclusive audio of the good Samaritan that stopped the robbery.
Let's just say it was a bad day for the
loser who decided to rob a Texas dairy queen.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Seriously, you're robbing a dairy queen. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You weren't yourself a belt buster? What did the five
steak fingers say to the face heard you had a
sweet tooth. But it's your lucky day now serving peanut
butter nut buster? Oh how about a banana? Split your
head open?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Hey, where are you going?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You didn't even touch your blizzard top of cracked nuts.
Twenty sixth anniversary of Bonfire. We say it every year,
We'll say it again. Traditions are important, They're meaningful, they matter,
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They create deep connection. You go to any school that
doesn't have deep traditions, say hey, what would you pay
for Texas tradition? An A and M tradition? What would
(06:48):
you pay to have one of these deep, rich traditions
like what they do at you know, the ring ceremony
this past weekend for the ages. He worth a lot
of money.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Nil.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
If you could just import that, if you could give
your alumni that level of connection to the school man,
you'd pay anything for it. I understand it. It was
a horrible thing. But I also think that a lot
of people make knee jerk reactions like this because it
(07:25):
is easier to do that than to figure out a
nuanced way to navigate how to make this happen, how
to make this tradition continue, how to give alumni something
very special. It is inherently dangerous, but I don't know
(07:47):
if you noticed this. It's inherently dangerous for three hundred
pound men to fly around a field smashing each other
at every different direction, but we do it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It liberal tiers.
Speaker 11 (08:06):
Because I didn't get a single time start here that
our country is failing you today, invest in KLEENICX, ladies
and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
And this is the Michael Berry Show. Twenty six years
ago today. The Aggie Bomb Bar collapse.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
That approximately two forty two am November eighteenth, nineteen ninety nine,
the fifty nine foot high stack consisting of about five
thousand logs collapse during construction of the fifty eight students
and former students working on the stack. Twelve were killed,
twenty seven injured. Immediately after the collapse, emergency medical technicians
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and trained first responders to the Texas A and M
Emergency Care Team. A student run volunteer service who staffed
each stage of construction, administered first aid. Temmick alerted the
university police and University EMS, also a student run service,
who dispatched all remaining university medics and requested mutual aid
from these surrounding agencies. In addition the mutual aid received
(09:14):
from the college station in Brian, Texas EMS, fire and
police departments, members of Texas Task Force one, the state's
elite emergency response team, arrived to assist the efforts.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
The twelve who.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Died This was ninety nine Miranda Denise Adams two, so
she would have been a freshman. I guess Christopher D.
Breen who had graduated three earlier. Three years earlier. Oh,
she must have been a sophomore. Miranda Michael Stephen Ebanks
who was scheduled too, so he was a freshman.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
He's three.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Jeremy Richard Frampton a senior, Jamie Lynn Hand freshman, Christopher
Lee Hurd freshman, Timothy Doren Curley junior, a freshman, Lucas
John Kimmel freshman, Brian McLean a sophomore, Chad Powell a freshman,
Jerry Don's self a junior, and Nathan Scott West a sophomore. Yeah,
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he'd be in a sophomore at that point. It's a
terrible tragedy, it is. But I think you have to
have the approach in life that we're all going to die,
and you try to mitigate risks, but you balance that
against the positive.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Every time you get into your automobile. It is dangerous.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I think there is a fear a failure that prevents
most things. Many things that are the most fun are
inherently dangerous. There's no reason to make them more so.
But there are a lot of things we do that
are dangerous, and people have a lot of fun, and
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then there's one error and that thing has to be stopped.
So it was good until there was an error. Bungee
jumping for some reason, people do that. Jumping out of
airplanes for some reason, people do that, and they talk
about how much san joy it. They overcame their fears.
This bonfire, I never went to it, but it was
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just the kind of thing at which A and M excels.
Creating community across multiple generations.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's a hard thing to do.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
The University of Houston's pie capa Phi fraternity has been
shut down after a hazing incident led to a person
being hospitalized.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
KHOU with a story. This is a timeline of what
we know at this point.
Speaker 12 (11:45):
On November third, and on UAH student was hospitalized following
alleged hazing activities. The student was later released from the hospital.
The reported conduct includes physical abuse, force consumption, and public humiliation.
On November sixth, the fraternity that first to themselves as
Pikes was placed on suspension by its governing body. That
same day, the university started its investigations. On Friday, the
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chapter membership voted to close the chapter at u of
h This is video from Fraternity Road Tonight. We called
student officers from the Pike chapter, but they declined to comment.
A statement from the University of Houston Region part quote,
the events investigated are deeply disturbing and represent a clear
violation of our community standards.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
While only a small group of students.
Speaker 12 (12:29):
Are alleged to be involved, the university does not tolerate
hazing in any form. The university says what happens to
the students will be addressed after the outcome of the
investigation is released. Those disciplinary actions can include up to
expulsion and maybe even some criminal charges.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Hazing stupid right, I think, especially women's why do you
do these stupid things? Because it's not natural to women,
it is natural to men. It can go too far,
often does the concept of hazing, teasing, whatever you want
to call that initiation? We have that in every aspect
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of life, your first day of kindergarten, first day of
any school, when you join an organization, there is a
concept of rights of passage, and some people just take
it too far. Simple as that. So what is your
hazing story? Could have been at work, could have been
in the military.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
What do they ever do?
Speaker 13 (13:33):
It could have been in a.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Fraternity, fraternity that didn't sell like me, did it?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Seven one three nine nine one thousand, seven one three
nine one thousand, Get right to your point sometimes a story.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Like this, But oh boy, I got a story for you. Wait,
I got two minutes, maybe less than that. How about
we get right to it.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Oh boy, I got a story. What is your hazing initiation?
Whatever the term was used, story? Seven one three nine
nine one thousand, seven one three nine nine, one thousand.
As luck would have it, in our connections in law
enforcement at the University of Houston, we may have received
security footage of that hazing at.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
This point, you may be asking yourself why am I
holding this thirty pounds cinder block in my hands?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
You might also ask yourself why does this cinder block
have a long piece.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Of string.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Tied to it?
Speaker 12 (14:39):
And finally, why is the other end of this string
tied securely to.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Your and the answer, ladies, is trust.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
This is your first test.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Do you trust that we've.
Speaker 14 (15:02):
Provided you with enough slacks and your block will land.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Safely on the lawn? Sir, Yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And Blue, yes, sir? Do you trust it?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I don't want to see you die here tonight. Sorry, yes, sir, Blue,
you're my boy.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
Tank your shirt.
Speaker 14 (15:18):
But oh thanks, says to the end, I just prepared
to release Why dude, great relate?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
We did?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh my god, true Texas original, true national treasure.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Don't messing around with the old.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
This is the Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
After a hazing incident at the University of Houston got
the Pikes kicked off campus, we have asked for your
hazing story. It doesn't have to be infraternity. It could
be at any point in life, your first day somewhere.
Animals do it. Animals do it in every different way
you look at how they often receive or induct others
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into their pack. There are different rituals in every organization.
Gangs do it, football team sporting events are sporting teams
do it.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
May not like it, but it is the nature. It
is a very masculine thing.
Speaker 15 (16:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I have heard sororities can be as bad as fraternities,
and these days, from what I hear, they're worse. But
that was not historically the case, Mike Earl the Michael
Berry Show, What's Your Story?
Speaker 15 (17:06):
Yeah, I changed high schools my junior year and.
Speaker 16 (17:11):
Was popular kind of right away.
Speaker 17 (17:12):
The girls took a liking to me, but the guys didn't,
and they.
Speaker 18 (17:20):
Hates me here, ask me whatever.
Speaker 16 (17:21):
You want to call it, picked on me.
Speaker 10 (17:24):
And then.
Speaker 16 (17:27):
One of the guys that wasn't as much a jerk
asked me to join the football team. And I love football,
and I joined, and and that's where they really took
a beating on me. Was was on the football field
during practice.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Well, I suspect it made you a better man, Mike. Generally,
I find that pushing through awful things like that makes
you a better man. Other I had a friend of
mine tell me that he and his brother and the
friend down the road used to pick on these guys
that lived a street over. It's not funny, I guess,
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but it's funny. They used to pick on these two
kids lived a street or two over and ten years old.
Ten years later, those guys committed a murder several and
they did it with knives, and they had stabbed a
guy like two hundred times.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It was clearly a rage.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And so my buddy says, you think that rage was
that a random stranger they never met all at their
old neighbor two blocks over.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You better keep your eyes out. Do you have to
build or you're up?
Speaker 15 (18:38):
Sir?
Speaker 19 (18:39):
All right, sir, so I was in a fraternity obviously
university at steven f And one of our big things
is we were an Innawa house kind of motivation on
that one and we were doing our freshman grab, which
means you're getting a new pledge on that one, and
we have alcohol and everything else over in that area
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he is, and the pledge decided to take it upon
himself to just like John belucy chug a zero point
seventy five of Jack Daniels and decided to go unconscious
and die on site. And uh, we got in trouble
for that one.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, but hey, it's it's all, as Randy Rogers says,
it's all for the sake of the story.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Billy, what's your story?
Speaker 7 (19:27):
My story is?
Speaker 13 (19:27):
Uh, Billy, I can't hear you back, and I have
long hair.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Hold on, Billy, did you fall in the whill? Billy?
Speaker 7 (19:39):
I can't hear you.
Speaker 13 (19:41):
So we were having a rotary party while we were drilling,
hanging a lamp, Billy and Brilla I had looked at me.
He said, jo, I'm just sick of our hair.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's why he got.
Speaker 13 (19:53):
Billy, you dune and uh, And they cut it off
with the you going, Billy.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You sound like the teacher on Charlie Brown. We can't
understand you, Billy, Billy, are you there?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Billy? Did you lose my number? Billy? Don't be a hero, Billy?
Where'd you go?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I wonder if Billy Billy doesn't strike me as being
computer savvy, so like me, he probably couldn't figure out
how to get back to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
But I would love for Billy to go back and
listen to that call. Well, I didn't even hear myself. No,
that's the point. We kind of wanted to hear you.
This is one of those features where the caller is
the show Tasha in Portland. You're up, sweetheart, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Good good morning. I was working in a kitchen with
a bunch of hisporic gentlemen, and they didn't like when
in the kitchen, and so they put a plate in
the oven for who knows how long, and then stuck
it just at the right time on the top of
the stock where I was going to grab a plate
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to plate some food, and I grabbed a hold of
that screaming hot plate and burnt my fingerprints off and
they were howling, laughing so hard.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Schadenfreud, that's the German word for the fact that we
find humor in the failings, pain, embarrassment of others. The
sort of thing that the Germans could grasp and give
voice to better than perhaps any other culture, because it's
a complicated thing. What is it about watching someone bust
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their Asset's so funny you think about it.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
What is that Roger? You're on the Michael Berry Show?
What's say you?
Speaker 15 (21:48):
Sir ya?
Speaker 17 (21:50):
Back in the mid nineties when I was in the military,
rabbed it for a brig right out of airborne school.
They would take you in and they would have to
build what they call qualifying.
Speaker 18 (22:01):
Like the bear Koala.
Speaker 17 (22:02):
And what they do is they make you drink about
a twelve pack of beer, you and a bunch of
other new guys, and we'd go out the woods and
they'd make you shimmy up a pine tree backwards and
hanging there for about two minutes, and whoever lasted the
longest was accepted into the group.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Isn't that funny? What is it in our brain makes
us do that? Very Happy birthday today.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
To Dan Pastorini's longtime girlfriend, the beautiful Pam Morse.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Dante said, do not say her age. She will kill you.
So I will not say her age. But I'm going
to tell you this.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
If I were Pam Morse's age and I looked ten
percent as good as she does, you better believe I'd
tell it. I'd tell everybody everywhere all the time. She
is absolutely stunning. They'll leave the house and Nonita will say,
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how can it be possible? How can it be possible
that she is that beautiful.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
At that age.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It's you've literally never in your life seen someone reach
this age and retain such beauty ever, literally ever, not
on TV, not in person not in magazines.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Truth is Pastorini looks pretty good for being was eighty seven.
Now it was pretty darn good himself. That and that
I don't understand. I do not understand that, he said.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
He said.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I said, hey, as all right if I wish pay
him Happy birthday. He said, yeah, but I want to
get to hear it. I'm at the dentist. I said, oh,
you'll be there for a while because he's had all
sorts of problems with his teeth. You know, with people
like that that are used to having their ass kissed,
you got to get a little nudge here, and a
little hazing here and there.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
As it were.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
One thousand, you're hazing or whatever else. She works at
the Ralph Lauren store in the gallery. So if you
see Pam today, you'll notice her striking, beautiful blonde. You'll
notice her go up and say happy birthday, but just
don't say what.
Speaker 10 (24:25):
Years Michael Barry.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
After the pipes were kicked off of the University of
Houston campus for hazing that hospitalized. Remember we've asked you
a question about initiations in school into an organization, into
a cult, into the.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Military, whatever that may be.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
First day of work when the old timers gave you grief,
gave you a nuggie, whatever that was. There was a
guy and his name was Chris Shaw, which I later
knew a Chris Shaw who runs good Company. But I
believe his name was Chris Shaw. I'm not positive on that,
but I'm pretty sure went to college with him. And
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he was walking into his fraternity. Oh no, no, into
another fraternity, but it was an open party. I wasn't
a fraternity guy, so I don't really know all rules.
But he's going into a party where he is authorized
to be, and the president of a particular fraternity is
very drunk, and he's standing out front wanting to show
out for his buddies, and the frontal lobe cortex is
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not yet developed. Young men make really stupid decisions and
they are inexplicable. You just hope you can keep them
within the limits and get them raised up fast enough
that they understand that that's not a good move. The
upside downside of that ledger that does not balance. And
the president of the fraternity decides he's going to hit
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my classman. I would say friend, but we weren't buddies.
I just we were in class together, and I watched
the whole thing go down. After he's hit, he hits
him in the forehead, whereupon he shatters the forehead and
almost killed this guy, my classmate. He was hospitalized for
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a very long that's you. That's when they used to
let you stay in the hospital. Remember today, they'd go
for an hour already, all right, go home, we're gonna
charge you five hundred thousand dollars. Well first they'd say,
with no beds, and then they'd send you home after
charging you five hundred thousand dollars. He stayed in the
hospital for a long time. He lost a full year
of school recovering from this. Now I think he got
(26:38):
a nice paycheck out of the deal. But that case
was heavy on my mind in law school. When you
learn the case, which every lawyer will tell you because
they were once a law student, the case of the
eggshell plaintiff, and every case has a lesson that you
should learn from that case, and the case of the
eggshell plaintiff was that you take your victim as you
(27:01):
see him, or as you find him. Take your victim
as you find him. So what happens is this guy
walks up similar story, hits the guy's head, head splits
open and did more damage than it would do to
you or me because we have normal we have a
normal cranium. And the ruling was, when you walk up
and hit somebody in the head, you assume the risk
(27:24):
that they might not have a normally typically size or
strength tensil forehead. So if they have an eggshell thick
forehead and you hit them and it kills them, you're
still just as liable. Your response can't be what hell,
(27:45):
that wouldn't have killed somebody else. Okay, somebody's got to
assume that risk, and you're going to you take your
victim as you find them.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
So anyway, there's really no point of that.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I just always enjoyed that story. Thomas, you're on the
Michael Berry Show. Tell me your story.
Speaker 10 (28:00):
I'm in this fraternal experience here, but two quick comments
and now I'll tell the story that Number one, I
love my fraternity. Number two is that the hazing is
just a small percentage of the greater good that goes
on with the fraternity. So, you know, this happened to
be hell night. You know, we knew what was coming,
and we were pretty nervous. We were pledges and walking
into a house full of active so we had hell night.
(28:21):
We got it coming and all right, we're a little nervous,
so we crowd up, get into the into the kitchen,
and we're all bunched up pretty good. But everybody's drinking,
smoking scars, et cetera. And then somehow I get I
got shoved a little bit in the back and I
was shoved right into a burning cigar. The guy had
it in his mouth, and man, it hit me on
the edge of my nose and it burned my nose.
(28:42):
And I had a burn mark on my nose for
a week walking around campus. So that was just a
bad deal. But all in all, a good experience with
the fraternity.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That's that's by and large what I've heard.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
But you do have to be careful because whatever your
limit is, young men are always going to go pass that.
So the moment you normalize somebody getting killed, you know,
or somebody getting seriously injured, you know, within reason, it's
a constant, but it's always a constant when you're dealing
with young men, and that's hard for people to understand.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
When you're fifty four years old, you're passing.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Judgment on an eighteen year old college kid or marine
or vocational student as to you know what they've done, Well, hell,
they're eighteen. There's only two things you're thinking about at eighteen,
and one of them is taking up ninety nine percent
of your time and energy, and it is drawing you
more than any addict ever could. And women will never
(29:44):
understand that, ever, understand that it is pure nature instinct.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And this is again where we have allowed the.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Conversation to be skewed away from real because you have
women who don't under have no basis, no knowledge in
any of this, who have made it such that these
things can't be talked about.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Well, they can be talked about right here. Ramon on
the Michael Berry's Yo.
Speaker 15 (30:11):
By god, Greg, you're up, hey, Michael, how's it going good.
Speaker 18 (30:18):
My story is back in the early eighties, while going
through the process and training to become a journeyman lineman,
when you were a helper or apprentice, it was very
The guys on the crew would grab you, hold you down,
pull your pants down, and put some rubber gloves on
(30:38):
and paint your pecker. But the kicker is what they
would use to paint you. Wasn't just paint.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
It was that.
Speaker 18 (30:45):
Remember that ol mathiolate came in the little bottle you
put on if you monkey bus yourself or something they
put you, they put that mathiolate on you.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
You know, there's something about.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
There's something about hazing and initiation with dudes that always
involves the pecker that if you were to study it,
there's something kind of partially gay about the whole thing
if you think about it, because the amount of things
related to violating the bunghole are in some way exposing
and messing with the peter are not normal.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
What I say normal, I guess they're.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Common, but there is something there that that has always
made me a little bit suspicious as to exactly what
that's about. My dad, because he's diabetic, had to be
very careful with wound care because diabetics don't have the
blood flow.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
They know if you don't get blood to.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
A wound, that won't heal, and diabetics have trouble healing anyway,
And so there was monkey blood at the ready at
all times in our home.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Tom you're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, Oh, Michael.
Speaker 15 (31:55):
My first day on the pipeline, when I got out
of hospital and young Nickpen. We were on kid and
the wilder told me to go with the sky hood
that's in the crew next to it. So I took
off full well going There ain't nothing to call the
(32:15):
sky hood, but I went to that crew. They set
me too, the crew up the line, the next crew
of the line. I spent half a day walking down
the line until the spread man throws up and said,
what the heck are you doing down here? I said,
I'm looking for the sky hook. You said, get in
(32:35):
my truck when we go back to where I was
supposed to be. So uh, that's my hazing experience. But Michael,
we took the George challenge at my house with my wife.
I said, to the way along it.
Speaker 19 (32:55):
All right?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
So one three nine nine, one thousand year talking
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