November 19, 2025 • 31 mins
Michael Berry breaks down Epstein’s leaked texts with Congresswoman Stacey Plaskett, the rise of chess-boxing, and the wild story of an Olympic snowboarder who became a cartel leader.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Verie Show is on the air. You know,
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we've done the how folks Got busted stories before, and
cell phones tend to get people into big problems. Cheating spouses,
drug dealers, CEOs. Everybody's been busted with phone records that
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prove their guilt. Now we have Democrat Congressman Stacey Plasket.
She was trading text messages in the middle of a
congressional hearing. During the hearing while that's going on with
Jeffrey Epstein, and Epstein was trying to give her MO
to hurt Trump. And she is communicating with that devil
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because all she wanted was to hurt Trump. And now
it's all come out because the cell phone records were
discoverable and the FBI was willing to look. I feel
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We're talking about the motorized school. By the way. Let
me go back Jeffrey Epstein. While Donald Trump was president
twenty nineteen first term, Epstein was texting with a Democrat
congressman trying to find ways to bring harm to Donald Trump.
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Let me ask you this. Think about this from moment.
If Epstein and Trump partied as friends. Trump has pardoned
those loyal to him. He has pardoned people for whom
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it was unpopular. He pardoned Rob Blagoyevitch straight up, I
think that's a horrible idea. Rod Blagoevitch was selling the
Senate seat in Illinois when Obama left to become president
and Blagoevitch was the governor, so he could he could
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appoint the Senator, and we had him dead to rights,
recorded phone calls selling the seat. By the way, one
of the bidders was Jesse Jackson to get the seat
for his good for nothing son, who I think he's
in prison today where he belongs. I didn't think he
should have pardoned Rod Blagoevitch. And people will say, well, yeah,
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but that made Blogovitch loyal to him, and now Blogovitch
only says nice things about him. He's a foreign Democrat.
Let me ask you this, how many people are impressed
that Blogo is out saying nice things about Donald Trump?
Do you think anybody is thinking, you know, I just
I just don't like Trump. But I think I think
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he's a bad guy. I don't. But but if Rod
Blagoievitch likes him, I mean he he's a wise man.
He became very wise in prison, and he was already
very wise. But how does that work. I don't see
an the upside of that. I don't see that that
gained Trump anything. He did it because he wanted to
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do it. He did it with that flame in Santos
from New York. Republicans got so excited. We got a
Republican in a Democrat district, if that's what you call it.
That guy was terrible, toxic, awful, horrible, breaking every law possible. Well,
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democrats write the law. Pooh, I don't. We don't want
guys like that. I'd rather him be there than a Democrat,
because at least he voted right most of the time.
But I don't I wouldn't pardon him. I don't know
why anybody would. But the president did it. And that's
not the point of this discussion. The point is Trump
has pardoned some really unpopular people. If Epstein believed there
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was even the slightest chance he was going to be pardoned,
he wouldn't be working to undermine Trump. Why doesn't he
believe that Trump will pardon him. That's his only shot.
He's not going to win. He knows that it's his
only shot. It's presidential pardon. And we're to believe they're
such good friends his guy's in the White House. He
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should be saying nice things, not risking with the president.
Or if he believes he's doing any good at causing
the president harm while he's doing this, and the president
is thereby harmed, that's a weakened president that is less
likely to pardon him. Right. I think there's something to
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be said there that this tells you much about that relationship.
It tells you a great deal about that relationship. I
don't think Donald Trump is perfect, not really. When it
comes to women, He's had a lot of them. I
think he's had multiple affairs. It's documented, obviously. I don't
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think he's always been a gentleman in how he treated
his wives at the time. But I think, like many people,
he grew to a certain age, found the right person,
entered the right season of life, and he's much different
in that way. But do I think that he was
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involved in any way, shape or form with Epstein. No.
And the biggest reason I think that is not because
I worship him politically like some people, I don't. The
biggest reason I believe that is because if they had
the goods on Trump, they would have dropped him, they
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would have buried him. With that. They have dug into
every aspect of his life. They have stretched the truth,
they have gone into every document. They have raided his
wife's penty drawers at mar A Lago. They have dragged
him to court in every jurisdiction after all this time.
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If they had anything on Epstein, they would have released it.
And there are people who have that information, and there
are people who have that information who hate Trump. It's
part of why Kobe needs to go to prison, and
May Brennan needs to go to prison, and May Strasik
needs to go to prison. Lisa Page needs to go
to prison. These people were working very hard. Hell, they
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shot the man in the head.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
When it comes to politics, do you enjoy a harsh
chemical lactative where you have came to the right place because.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Michael Berry, get on him, blow it all out, baby.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Sixty minutes did a profile on a law interesting news
sport chess boxing. It's just what it sounds like, alternating
rounds of chess and then boxing. You can win either
by knockout or checkmate. Here's the story.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
In sixty minutes, fighters from eighteen countries are here trying
to knock each other's heads off.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But wait, Now the fighters strip off their gloves and
sit down. It's chess time.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Competitors have three minutes to vanquish their enemy on the board.
If they don't, it's back to the slugfest for three
more minutes. It's gloves on, gloves off until checkmate, knockout
or judge's decision.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I had the body of a chess player. I was
just like a scrawny kid, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Meet William Gambitman Graef, a New York State chess chap
He's been playing competitive chess since the age of five.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, we saw his take no prisoner's approach. How'd I
get in this horrible position?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
When he demolished four of us at once?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Just for fun? Checkmate check me.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Graefe told us he added thirty pounds of muscle to
become a chess boxer. He's still only one hundred and
sixty pounds. Are you even scared in any way?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
I'd be a little crazy not to be terrified.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
But why are you willingly deciding to step into a
ring where you can get your head beaten in?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, you sound like my mother.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
One of the things is sort of the opportunity to
tell my story here of like a kid who played
chess growing up throughout school and was to an extent
ridiculed and ostracized.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
For being a scrawny chess player. Exactly.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Okay, you know I've been doing chess for a very
long time. What better time to sort of try something
new and challenge myself.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Why would you say doing chess instead of plague chess?
That's weird. Ridiculous sports ideas that actually exist. Fireball soccer
a game in which players use balls made from coconuts
for about a week before the match. The coconut balls
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are immersed in gasoline to make them easy to ignite
for the game, and it's played without shoes. Okay, show
me that you have no value for human life. You
have very short life spans to start with, you have
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no money to establish a real sports league, and you
still want to entertain yourself with feats of daring. Do oh,
I'm impressed. Yes, you you understood the assignment. Then there
is something on Chile's Easter Island called hake Pay. It
is a perilous race that originated on Chile's I like
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say Chile, said Chile, I say Chile and really accent
it up, but do it as if you. You don't
bring attention to it. You just do it, so I'll
do it like that. This perilous race originated on Chile's
Easter Island. Young people, often under twenty years of age,
race down a volcanoes edge on a sled made of
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two banana tree trunks, while only wearing a loincloth. When
they koreene down the steep hill, participants frequently reached speeds
of about fifty miles an hour, which can occasionally cause
serious injury. This letter, who makes it the furthest from
the launch point is declared the winner. Apparently, Hakape was
once used to test young people's maturity and fortitude in
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preparation for adulthood. That might be where great Balls of
Fire originated. It could be you don't know, remember doing
COVID or the COVID shutdown when ESPN had nothing to
watch because they had nothing to put on because there
were no live sports being played. Remember that, and ESPN
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was just grasping for straws, trying to get any viewers
they could find.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
We have a full day of action right here on
ESPN Sinco tonight at six eastern. We kick it off
with chest boxing where brainiac meets Maniac. Then we go
prime time with an abew of basket bowl all you
can eat inchilados. One throne contestants shoot threes while dropping abuse.
Then starting at ten, it's late night Action a little
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Drinko with the Sinko as we go back to back.
First it's Beer Mile Run contestants chugging four beers throughout
a one mile race.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
This competition is set to make any liver quiver.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Then it's curling and hurling The Olympic Trials begin. Contestine
slide heavy stones down a sheet of ice and the
prize is lukewarm sheep to keep. And then wake up
with us tomorrow morning for a brand new episode of
Tic Tac Donut contestants Graham twenty four donuts in twenty
four minutes, no milk, all while playing human Tic Tac
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Toe sponsored by Wilfrid Beverley's Diabetes Foundation.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
ESPN Sinco. When there's nothing else to watch to redo us, ramon,
do you know who Ryan Wedding is? I didn't either,
so I keep a screen on in my in my studio,
and this morning there was a headline that said Olympian arrested.
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Pambondi was doing a press of briefing, and I said
olympian arrested in some sort of a ring. So I
looked him up and I expected to see, okay, because
I want to see what his sport was. So I
expected to see Ryan James Wedding is former Olympic snowboarder.
That's what I expected to see. But here's what it says.
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Ryan James Wedding is a Canadian drug trafficker and former
Olympic snowboarder. They put that as the first thing. Okay,
So he's in the two thousand and two Olympics, and
then he moved back to Vancouver, becomes a bodybuilder and
starts working as a bouncer and looking at pictures of him,
he gets pretty jacked. So that's probably, uh, you know
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that that's doing certain things to his brain. And then
he joins up with the Irani and Russian cocaine smugglers. Okay,
like the Olympics yesterday. Now you're in an internet, you're
an international drug smuggler. Then he's buying coke from a
US government agent in two thousand and eight, goes to
prison for four years. Then he gets out and he's
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charged with leading a transnational organized crime group. Dude like
you went from normal dude who like Olympic winter, Olympic
people are like really white milk toast, and he's now
he's a high ranking member of the sinhaloa cartel, true story,
mild by el, hefe giant or public immiate. That's that's
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his nickname, Michael Barry show. That's great. He's damn shame.
It's a damn shame. It's a damn shame. It's a
damn shame. Sherry Wrights, you just made half of your
own doctors and your sponsor doctors spit out their coffee.
You need to check with doctor or wits it about
glaucoma test testing. You're a urologist about prostate checks and yes,
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manual is still necessary, and yet a specialist on mammograms
on your show. The male n FEC sample is for
colon cancer, not prostrate checks. I misunderstood what my friend
was going for. I thought he was going for colonoscopy.
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So on that I am incorrect, and I do agree
prostate cancer is for men what breast cancer is for women.
I think it is something. I don't really care what
somebody's opinion is. I don't does not matter to me.
The fact that we disagree, the fact they don't like
my opinion, does not matter to me. And I don't
care what actions people take. If there's not a victim,
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they're only harming themselves. I believe you should have the
opportunity to self harm. That is what liberty looks like.
Some people say they want liberty because it sounds like
a nice word, but they don't know what it means
because they want to control other people. So if someone
chooses to pursue a course of medical treatment or no
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treatment that is outside of the conventional, the traditional, that
should be their choice. Not all the ninnies. And it's
usually older women who have this need to control, this
desperate need to control, and that comes from a lack
of control in their own lives over anything, so they
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want to control other people. It's as old as time.
They try to control the men in their lives, they can't,
so then they set about trying to control everyone else.
And it's a phenomenon. It's how we get some of
the most socially restrictive, theocratic Muslim country style laws like
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Ramone's favorite, you can't buy beer before, you can't buy
liquor before noon on Sunday. And my favorite is when
Ramon gets on his little rant because he's had to
ask three different places for a drink on Sunday morning
and he's on vacation, probably half liquored up. So I'm
always so mad about but because you can get it
in a place where you are, But he gets all
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wound up by Sunday mornings. He'll get to going on
and there's always some woman, and it's always a woman
who will post. You don't need drink for noon on
Sunday anyway, and you don't need to live in America.
You do real well in Saudi Arabia because you don't
understand the concept of freedom, and you're incapable of having
a discussion about freedom. It's outside the plane. Your brain
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can't think on that level. So with regard to Sherry's email, yes,
I agree prostate checks should be done and they should
be done digitally, meaning using the fingers. So I will
admit on that I misunderstood what my friend said. With
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regard to checking with withs it about glaucoma testing and
getting with a specialist on mimmograms, here's where Sherry gets
it wrong and here's where the damage of the quote
unquote expert phenomenon lies. It's very well understood. You can
put someone in a lab coat in a commercial who
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is not a doctor. They're not impersonating a doctor. It's
not criminal, and that person can tell you, here, take
this pill. It'll make your wiener longer, it'll make your
wien or harder, it'll open up your bowels, it'll allow
you to see, it'll in your Crohn's disease. It'll do
whatever else, and people will buy that. Empirical studies show
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again and again and again. People have a level of
trust misplaced, as it often is, in what they consider
to be experts. So my response was to her, if
I need to ask my eye doctor about whether glaucoma
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tests are necessary or not, if I need to ask
my urologists about procedures, and if I need to ask
the mammogram companies whether mammograms are a good thing or not,
should I also have Pfizer on to tell me how
effective their vaccine is and why I need to take it.
There is this idea of not very smart people who
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create a coalition along with people who are smart but
in an industry and their idea is that you will
have experts based on what people do for a living,
and so if a person does something for a living,
they must necessarily be the expert on that, and nobody
else can know anything about this. I will tell you,
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as a guy with two law degrees, some of the
people I have met who have made the best legal
arguments in emails to me that I've ever witnessed did
not go to law school, nor do you need to.
There are people who have made massive medical breakthroughs who
were not doctors or PhDs in research. Elon Musk entered
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the automobile industry and turned it on its head, made
the industry better, made everybody be better. Every company is
better because of what Elon did. I believe that, not
the ev side, I mean the consumer driven. You don't
want the sales floor in any business. You don't want
the sales floor to be making the decisions for your company.
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And so if your idea is to go to the
experts and have the experts tell you how important their
expert advice is, that's fine. I don't do that. At
a minimum, I would triangulate experts. I find it odd
when everybody agrees on a course of treatment. Everybody. You mean,
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there's nobody who finds a different way to do this.
You can't find one offensive scheme that everybody agrees is
the best. You can't find an agreement on what should
be done third and a half yard, You can't find
an agreement on what's the best pistol, what's the best rifle?
And the minute you did, somebody had set out to
create another one. Conformity For conventionality is a sign of weakness,
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not strength. That should cause you to question, not deep
in your conviction. When people posing as experts are who
you need to ask and trust and never question, that
is not the sign of a sophisticated person. Many people
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think it is huh, well, what do you know. You're
not a doctor? Well, did your doctor tell you to
take the vaccine? Yeah, you have Bell's palsy now, like
the governor of New York who got it shortly after,
or my brother who died, or all the other people
who died so or all the other people who have
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conditions that started immediately after that. But your doctor told
you to do that. And I'm not a doctor, Well
you know what, I am a guy who uses his
brain often to a bad end often to the wrong conclusion.
But I do believe, for instance, in doing checks epidemiological
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tests on a drug before you give it to a
human being. Because I know what the lidamide was and
there are lots of others, I do believe that I'm
not going to be the guinea pig for something. And
the only reason people signed up to be a guinea
pig is they allowed themselves to be frightened by the
experts who were getting paid to be experts to believe
this was the Spanish Flu of nineteen eighteen and it wasn't.
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But sure, trust the experts. Sherry Michael Perry, Michael per
I've received a number of emails asking why I haven't
commented on Todd Snyder's death, and the reason is because
it bothers me and I really just don't know where
to put it. To be completely honest, I'm a super
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fan of Todd Snyder. We've played his stuff on the air.
It's in fact, we played one about It's called Louis Louis.
If you want to get a good insight into Todd Snyder,
go to YouTube and put in Louie Louie. Todd Snyder
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was liberal, but if you believe in the concept of
the circularity of political opinion on a spectrum, and if
you go far enough either direction, you end up on
the other side, meaning that people on the far left
and far right can often agree on many things. I
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believe that Todd Snyder was at his core a cynic,
a healthy, curious cynic, and sometimes the greatest minds in
cynicism can be very, very depressed personalities. If you're a
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person who has an insight, whether it's accurate or not,
you have this insight and you believe that no one
else notices it as to the ulterior motives of everyone
around you and everyone in the world, or if you
have a healthy cynicism of everything that seemingly everyone in
the world respects, whether that be religion or traditional medicine,
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or sports on Sunday or whatever that may be. I
think it can make people feel alienated, alone, distant, and depressed.
And I suspect Todd Snyder suffered from extreme depression. And
one of the things I've come to learn as i've
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aged is I have a superman phenomenon syndrome that I
think I can fix anything. I can fix broken people.
There's something wrong with someone I can if I focus
my energy, I can fix it. I can find the
right people to come in and do what needs to
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be done, and we can heal this person up. And
I used to believe that with regard to mental issues,
and I don't believe that any longer. I think that
there is a tunnel that I can't enter, that a
person's brain can be recessed into, and there's nothing you
can do to affect that. You can do a lot
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on a symptomatic basis to assist them in the higher
quality of life. You can do a lot with regard
to friendship, fellowship, kindness, listening, but I don't know that
you can heal that person. And I suspect that Todd
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Snyder was in a very, very very bad place, and
I found that to be a sad thing, no more
sad than if someone who wasn't a phenomenal songwriter was sad.
It's just that his case played out in public on camera,
and that's a you know, if you've seen people go
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through that, I always say, you know, I get aggravated
when people refer to suicide as being a cowardly thing.
I've heard that said at the funeral of a person
who took their own life. And I'm thinking I have
had a close relative commit suicide, but that wasn't said
at the funeral. I'm thinking to myself, if I had
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a loved one commit suicide, if some pastor or anyone
else is speaking at the funeral and says that that
was a cowardly act, I would walk up and deckham
and feel quite comfortable that I was righteous in doing so.
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I know that that's what people have learned to say,
suicide is a coward. You know why they say that,
because they think that if they say that, other people
won't commit suicide, because people will say, oh, I don't
want to be a coward. Suicide is not cowardly. It's
extraordinarily brave. It's also extraordinarily hurtful to everyone around you.
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Touch Snyder didn't commit suicide. By the way, to my knowledge,
we don't really know. There are a lot of theories,
but we don't know. I'm just talking generally about non
conventional thoughts. I don't want to mix those two. Some
people won't catch that that I pivoted. But if you
see how many people try to commit suicide and can't
because we are brain we are wired to survive. We're
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not meant to die. It's the end of the species.
We have this incredible drive. I think of Marcus Thetrel
dragging his bullet riddled body, knowing that his buddies are gone,
knowing that best case scenario, he's going to come upon
other Afghans, knowing that he could be tortured, horrible things
could be done to him, knowing that he's most likely
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just going to die out there, and you better off
just lay and still because his body's broken, and yet
he keeps crawling. What is that that keeps crawling? What
is the thing within us? The desire to live, the
desire to create, to build, to do. He had to
tell the story. Somebody had to tell the story of
the story wouldn't be told. So it's always bothered me
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on the issue of suicide. And I got on suicide.
I don't think Todd Snyder committed suicide. Don't conflate those two.
But this is important to me and it comes up
a lot. And so since I'm on the subject, when
people refer to people who committed suicide as cowards, I
don't think you've ever been around someone who wanted to
commit suicide. Because if you have you understand that that
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person is hurting so badly, sometimes physically, almost always mentally,
and they just want the pain to end the same
way you stop running when you were supposed to run
the mile the first day you started back on your
workout program, and you got three quarters of a mile
and you thought your stomach, your loans were going to explode,
and so you stopped. You didn't stop because you're a
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bad person or a coward. You stopped because you just
couldn't push any further. You didn't know your limits, You
didn't want to suffer anymore. I think that people get
to a point where they are suffering so much and
they just want to end the suffering, and they see
no other way to end the suffering, and they feel
horrible for what they're going to have to do to
everyone else, from the cleanup to literally and physically to
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burying this person in mourning. They're passing, but they can
see no way out, and this pain is to advance.
I don't think he necessary really committed suicide, but I
think Todd Snyder was in a very very bad spot
and he was hurting terribly. And it saddens me to
know that there are a lot of people who are
probably quite a few people listening right now, that in
one way or another, are in that position. I wish
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I could hug that out. I wish there was a
drug we could take. I wish there was a way
to quickly and easily make that go away. Well there's not.
It's life. It's unfortunate. That's Arsano
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.
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The Michael Verie Show is on the air. You know,
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we've done the how folks Got busted stories before, and
cell phones tend to get people into big problems. Cheating spouses,
drug dealers, CEOs. Everybody's been busted with phone records that
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prove their guilt. Now we have Democrat Congressman Stacey Plasket.
She was trading text messages in the middle of a
congressional hearing. During the hearing while that's going on with
Jeffrey Epstein, and Epstein was trying to give her MO
to hurt Trump. And she is communicating with that devil
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because all she wanted was to hurt Trump. And now
it's all come out because the cell phone records were
discoverable and the FBI was willing to look. I feel
like these people need their own cell phone plan.
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To six sixty six sixty six six six.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The Epstein at All Times Anonymous plan where suspicious activities
connects you with evil lifestyles.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We're talking about the motorized school. By the way. Let
me go back Jeffrey Epstein. While Donald Trump was president
twenty nineteen first term, Epstein was texting with a Democrat
congressman trying to find ways to bring harm to Donald Trump.
(02:54):
Let me ask you this. Think about this from moment.
If Epstein and Trump partied as friends. Trump has pardoned
those loyal to him. He has pardoned people for whom
(03:16):
it was unpopular. He pardoned Rob Blagoyevitch straight up, I
think that's a horrible idea. Rod Blagoevitch was selling the
Senate seat in Illinois when Obama left to become president
and Blagoevitch was the governor, so he could he could
(03:37):
appoint the Senator, and we had him dead to rights,
recorded phone calls selling the seat. By the way, one
of the bidders was Jesse Jackson to get the seat
for his good for nothing son, who I think he's
in prison today where he belongs. I didn't think he
should have pardoned Rod Blagoevitch. And people will say, well, yeah,
(04:04):
but that made Blogovitch loyal to him, and now Blogovitch
only says nice things about him. He's a foreign Democrat.
Let me ask you this, how many people are impressed
that Blogo is out saying nice things about Donald Trump?
Do you think anybody is thinking, you know, I just
I just don't like Trump. But I think I think
(04:25):
he's a bad guy. I don't. But but if Rod
Blagoievitch likes him, I mean he he's a wise man.
He became very wise in prison, and he was already
very wise. But how does that work. I don't see
an the upside of that. I don't see that that
gained Trump anything. He did it because he wanted to
(04:47):
do it. He did it with that flame in Santos
from New York. Republicans got so excited. We got a
Republican in a Democrat district, if that's what you call it.
That guy was terrible, toxic, awful, horrible, breaking every law possible. Well,
(05:08):
democrats write the law. Pooh, I don't. We don't want
guys like that. I'd rather him be there than a Democrat,
because at least he voted right most of the time.
But I don't I wouldn't pardon him. I don't know
why anybody would. But the president did it. And that's
not the point of this discussion. The point is Trump
has pardoned some really unpopular people. If Epstein believed there
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was even the slightest chance he was going to be pardoned,
he wouldn't be working to undermine Trump. Why doesn't he
believe that Trump will pardon him. That's his only shot.
He's not going to win. He knows that it's his
only shot. It's presidential pardon. And we're to believe they're
such good friends his guy's in the White House. He
(05:58):
should be saying nice things, not risking with the president.
Or if he believes he's doing any good at causing
the president harm while he's doing this, and the president
is thereby harmed, that's a weakened president that is less
likely to pardon him. Right. I think there's something to
(06:21):
be said there that this tells you much about that relationship.
It tells you a great deal about that relationship. I
don't think Donald Trump is perfect, not really. When it
comes to women, He's had a lot of them. I
think he's had multiple affairs. It's documented, obviously. I don't
(06:44):
think he's always been a gentleman in how he treated
his wives at the time. But I think, like many people,
he grew to a certain age, found the right person,
entered the right season of life, and he's much different
in that way. But do I think that he was
(07:05):
involved in any way, shape or form with Epstein. No.
And the biggest reason I think that is not because
I worship him politically like some people, I don't. The
biggest reason I believe that is because if they had
the goods on Trump, they would have dropped him, they
(07:26):
would have buried him. With that. They have dug into
every aspect of his life. They have stretched the truth,
they have gone into every document. They have raided his
wife's penty drawers at mar A Lago. They have dragged
him to court in every jurisdiction after all this time.
(07:49):
If they had anything on Epstein, they would have released it.
And there are people who have that information, and there
are people who have that information who hate Trump. It's
part of why Kobe needs to go to prison, and
May Brennan needs to go to prison, and May Strasik
needs to go to prison. Lisa Page needs to go
to prison. These people were working very hard. Hell, they
(08:13):
shot the man in the head.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
When it comes to politics, do you enjoy a harsh
chemical lactative where you have came to the right place because.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Michael Berry, get on him, blow it all out, baby.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Sixty minutes did a profile on a law interesting news
sport chess boxing. It's just what it sounds like, alternating
rounds of chess and then boxing. You can win either
by knockout or checkmate. Here's the story.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
In sixty minutes, fighters from eighteen countries are here trying
to knock each other's heads off.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But wait, Now the fighters strip off their gloves and
sit down. It's chess time.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Competitors have three minutes to vanquish their enemy on the board.
If they don't, it's back to the slugfest for three
more minutes. It's gloves on, gloves off until checkmate, knockout
or judge's decision.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I had the body of a chess player. I was
just like a scrawny kid, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Meet William Gambitman Graef, a New York State chess chap
He's been playing competitive chess since the age of five.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, we saw his take no prisoner's approach. How'd I
get in this horrible position?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
When he demolished four of us at once?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Just for fun? Checkmate check me.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Graefe told us he added thirty pounds of muscle to
become a chess boxer. He's still only one hundred and
sixty pounds. Are you even scared in any way?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
I'd be a little crazy not to be terrified.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
But why are you willingly deciding to step into a
ring where you can get your head beaten in?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, you sound like my mother.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
One of the things is sort of the opportunity to
tell my story here of like a kid who played
chess growing up throughout school and was to an extent
ridiculed and ostracized.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
For being a scrawny chess player. Exactly.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Okay, you know I've been doing chess for a very
long time. What better time to sort of try something
new and challenge myself.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Why would you say doing chess instead of plague chess?
That's weird. Ridiculous sports ideas that actually exist. Fireball soccer
a game in which players use balls made from coconuts
for about a week before the match. The coconut balls
(10:56):
are immersed in gasoline to make them easy to ignite
for the game, and it's played without shoes. Okay, show
me that you have no value for human life. You
have very short life spans to start with, you have
(11:17):
no money to establish a real sports league, and you
still want to entertain yourself with feats of daring. Do oh,
I'm impressed. Yes, you you understood the assignment. Then there
is something on Chile's Easter Island called hake Pay. It
is a perilous race that originated on Chile's I like
(11:41):
say Chile, said Chile, I say Chile and really accent
it up, but do it as if you. You don't
bring attention to it. You just do it, so I'll
do it like that. This perilous race originated on Chile's
Easter Island. Young people, often under twenty years of age,
race down a volcanoes edge on a sled made of
(12:02):
two banana tree trunks, while only wearing a loincloth. When
they koreene down the steep hill, participants frequently reached speeds
of about fifty miles an hour, which can occasionally cause
serious injury. This letter, who makes it the furthest from
the launch point is declared the winner. Apparently, Hakape was
once used to test young people's maturity and fortitude in
(12:24):
preparation for adulthood. That might be where great Balls of
Fire originated. It could be you don't know, remember doing
COVID or the COVID shutdown when ESPN had nothing to
watch because they had nothing to put on because there
were no live sports being played. Remember that, and ESPN
(12:46):
was just grasping for straws, trying to get any viewers
they could find.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
We have a full day of action right here on
ESPN Sinco tonight at six eastern. We kick it off
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Then starting at ten, it's late night Action a little
(13:14):
Drinko with the Sinko as we go back to back.
First it's Beer Mile Run contestants chugging four beers throughout
a one mile race.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
This competition is set to make any liver quiver.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Then it's curling and hurling The Olympic Trials begin. Contestine
slide heavy stones down a sheet of ice and the
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four minutes, no milk, all while playing human Tic Tac
(13:45):
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Speaker 2 (13:49):
ESPN Sinco. When there's nothing else to watch to redo us, ramon,
do you know who Ryan Wedding is? I didn't either,
so I keep a screen on in my in my studio,
and this morning there was a headline that said Olympian arrested.
(14:14):
Pambondi was doing a press of briefing, and I said
olympian arrested in some sort of a ring. So I
looked him up and I expected to see, okay, because
I want to see what his sport was. So I
expected to see Ryan James Wedding is former Olympic snowboarder.
That's what I expected to see. But here's what it says.
(14:37):
Ryan James Wedding is a Canadian drug trafficker and former
Olympic snowboarder. They put that as the first thing. Okay,
So he's in the two thousand and two Olympics, and
then he moved back to Vancouver, becomes a bodybuilder and
starts working as a bouncer and looking at pictures of him,
he gets pretty jacked. So that's probably, uh, you know
(15:01):
that that's doing certain things to his brain. And then
he joins up with the Irani and Russian cocaine smugglers. Okay,
like the Olympics yesterday. Now you're in an internet, you're
an international drug smuggler. Then he's buying coke from a
US government agent in two thousand and eight, goes to
prison for four years. Then he gets out and he's
(15:22):
charged with leading a transnational organized crime group. Dude like
you went from normal dude who like Olympic winter, Olympic
people are like really white milk toast, and he's now
he's a high ranking member of the sinhaloa cartel, true story,
mild by el, hefe giant or public immiate. That's that's
(15:44):
his nickname, Michael Barry show. That's great. He's damn shame.
It's a damn shame. It's a damn shame. It's a
damn shame. Sherry Wrights, you just made half of your
own doctors and your sponsor doctors spit out their coffee.
You need to check with doctor or wits it about
glaucoma test testing. You're a urologist about prostate checks and yes,
(16:09):
manual is still necessary, and yet a specialist on mammograms
on your show. The male n FEC sample is for
colon cancer, not prostrate checks. I misunderstood what my friend
was going for. I thought he was going for colonoscopy.
(16:29):
So on that I am incorrect, and I do agree
prostate cancer is for men what breast cancer is for women.
I think it is something. I don't really care what
somebody's opinion is. I don't does not matter to me.
The fact that we disagree, the fact they don't like
my opinion, does not matter to me. And I don't
care what actions people take. If there's not a victim,
(16:51):
they're only harming themselves. I believe you should have the
opportunity to self harm. That is what liberty looks like.
Some people say they want liberty because it sounds like
a nice word, but they don't know what it means
because they want to control other people. So if someone
chooses to pursue a course of medical treatment or no
(17:13):
treatment that is outside of the conventional, the traditional, that
should be their choice. Not all the ninnies. And it's
usually older women who have this need to control, this
desperate need to control, and that comes from a lack
of control in their own lives over anything, so they
(17:34):
want to control other people. It's as old as time.
They try to control the men in their lives, they can't,
so then they set about trying to control everyone else.
And it's a phenomenon. It's how we get some of
the most socially restrictive, theocratic Muslim country style laws like
(17:54):
Ramone's favorite, you can't buy beer before, you can't buy
liquor before noon on Sunday. And my favorite is when
Ramon gets on his little rant because he's had to
ask three different places for a drink on Sunday morning
and he's on vacation, probably half liquored up. So I'm
always so mad about but because you can get it
in a place where you are, But he gets all
(18:15):
wound up by Sunday mornings. He'll get to going on
and there's always some woman, and it's always a woman
who will post. You don't need drink for noon on
Sunday anyway, and you don't need to live in America.
You do real well in Saudi Arabia because you don't
understand the concept of freedom, and you're incapable of having
a discussion about freedom. It's outside the plane. Your brain
(18:37):
can't think on that level. So with regard to Sherry's email, yes,
I agree prostate checks should be done and they should
be done digitally, meaning using the fingers. So I will
admit on that I misunderstood what my friend said. With
(18:58):
regard to checking with withs it about glaucoma testing and
getting with a specialist on mimmograms, here's where Sherry gets
it wrong and here's where the damage of the quote
unquote expert phenomenon lies. It's very well understood. You can
put someone in a lab coat in a commercial who
(19:20):
is not a doctor. They're not impersonating a doctor. It's
not criminal, and that person can tell you, here, take
this pill. It'll make your wiener longer, it'll make your
wien or harder, it'll open up your bowels, it'll allow
you to see, it'll in your Crohn's disease. It'll do
whatever else, and people will buy that. Empirical studies show
(19:44):
again and again and again. People have a level of
trust misplaced, as it often is, in what they consider
to be experts. So my response was to her, if
I need to ask my eye doctor about whether glaucoma
(20:05):
tests are necessary or not, if I need to ask
my urologists about procedures, and if I need to ask
the mammogram companies whether mammograms are a good thing or not,
should I also have Pfizer on to tell me how
effective their vaccine is and why I need to take it.
There is this idea of not very smart people who
(20:27):
create a coalition along with people who are smart but
in an industry and their idea is that you will
have experts based on what people do for a living,
and so if a person does something for a living,
they must necessarily be the expert on that, and nobody
else can know anything about this. I will tell you,
(20:49):
as a guy with two law degrees, some of the
people I have met who have made the best legal
arguments in emails to me that I've ever witnessed did
not go to law school, nor do you need to.
There are people who have made massive medical breakthroughs who
were not doctors or PhDs in research. Elon Musk entered
(21:11):
the automobile industry and turned it on its head, made
the industry better, made everybody be better. Every company is
better because of what Elon did. I believe that, not
the ev side, I mean the consumer driven. You don't
want the sales floor in any business. You don't want
the sales floor to be making the decisions for your company.
(21:34):
And so if your idea is to go to the
experts and have the experts tell you how important their
expert advice is, that's fine. I don't do that. At
a minimum, I would triangulate experts. I find it odd
when everybody agrees on a course of treatment. Everybody. You mean,
(21:57):
there's nobody who finds a different way to do this.
You can't find one offensive scheme that everybody agrees is
the best. You can't find an agreement on what should
be done third and a half yard, You can't find
an agreement on what's the best pistol, what's the best rifle?
And the minute you did, somebody had set out to
create another one. Conformity For conventionality is a sign of weakness,
(22:21):
not strength. That should cause you to question, not deep
in your conviction. When people posing as experts are who
you need to ask and trust and never question, that
is not the sign of a sophisticated person. Many people
(22:42):
think it is huh, well, what do you know. You're
not a doctor? Well, did your doctor tell you to
take the vaccine? Yeah, you have Bell's palsy now, like
the governor of New York who got it shortly after,
or my brother who died, or all the other people
who died so or all the other people who have
(23:02):
conditions that started immediately after that. But your doctor told
you to do that. And I'm not a doctor, Well
you know what, I am a guy who uses his
brain often to a bad end often to the wrong conclusion.
But I do believe, for instance, in doing checks epidemiological
(23:23):
tests on a drug before you give it to a
human being. Because I know what the lidamide was and
there are lots of others, I do believe that I'm
not going to be the guinea pig for something. And
the only reason people signed up to be a guinea
pig is they allowed themselves to be frightened by the
experts who were getting paid to be experts to believe
this was the Spanish Flu of nineteen eighteen and it wasn't.
(23:46):
But sure, trust the experts. Sherry Michael Perry, Michael per
I've received a number of emails asking why I haven't
commented on Todd Snyder's death, and the reason is because
it bothers me and I really just don't know where
to put it. To be completely honest, I'm a super
(24:11):
fan of Todd Snyder. We've played his stuff on the air.
It's in fact, we played one about It's called Louis Louis.
If you want to get a good insight into Todd Snyder,
go to YouTube and put in Louie Louie. Todd Snyder
(24:32):
was liberal, but if you believe in the concept of
the circularity of political opinion on a spectrum, and if
you go far enough either direction, you end up on
the other side, meaning that people on the far left
and far right can often agree on many things. I
(24:56):
believe that Todd Snyder was at his core a cynic,
a healthy, curious cynic, and sometimes the greatest minds in
cynicism can be very, very depressed personalities. If you're a
(25:20):
person who has an insight, whether it's accurate or not,
you have this insight and you believe that no one
else notices it as to the ulterior motives of everyone
around you and everyone in the world, or if you
have a healthy cynicism of everything that seemingly everyone in
the world respects, whether that be religion or traditional medicine,
(25:45):
or sports on Sunday or whatever that may be. I
think it can make people feel alienated, alone, distant, and depressed.
And I suspect Todd Snyder suffered from extreme depression. And
one of the things I've come to learn as i've
(26:07):
aged is I have a superman phenomenon syndrome that I
think I can fix anything. I can fix broken people.
There's something wrong with someone I can if I focus
my energy, I can fix it. I can find the
right people to come in and do what needs to
(26:29):
be done, and we can heal this person up. And
I used to believe that with regard to mental issues,
and I don't believe that any longer. I think that
there is a tunnel that I can't enter, that a
person's brain can be recessed into, and there's nothing you
can do to affect that. You can do a lot
(26:51):
on a symptomatic basis to assist them in the higher
quality of life. You can do a lot with regard
to friendship, fellowship, kindness, listening, but I don't know that
you can heal that person. And I suspect that Todd
(27:12):
Snyder was in a very, very very bad place, and
I found that to be a sad thing, no more
sad than if someone who wasn't a phenomenal songwriter was sad.
It's just that his case played out in public on camera,
and that's a you know, if you've seen people go
(27:34):
through that, I always say, you know, I get aggravated
when people refer to suicide as being a cowardly thing.
I've heard that said at the funeral of a person
who took their own life. And I'm thinking I have
had a close relative commit suicide, but that wasn't said
at the funeral. I'm thinking to myself, if I had
(27:55):
a loved one commit suicide, if some pastor or anyone
else is speaking at the funeral and says that that
was a cowardly act, I would walk up and deckham
and feel quite comfortable that I was righteous in doing so.
(28:16):
I know that that's what people have learned to say,
suicide is a coward. You know why they say that,
because they think that if they say that, other people
won't commit suicide, because people will say, oh, I don't
want to be a coward. Suicide is not cowardly. It's
extraordinarily brave. It's also extraordinarily hurtful to everyone around you.
(28:37):
Touch Snyder didn't commit suicide. By the way, to my knowledge,
we don't really know. There are a lot of theories,
but we don't know. I'm just talking generally about non
conventional thoughts. I don't want to mix those two. Some
people won't catch that that I pivoted. But if you
see how many people try to commit suicide and can't
because we are brain we are wired to survive. We're
(29:02):
not meant to die. It's the end of the species.
We have this incredible drive. I think of Marcus Thetrel
dragging his bullet riddled body, knowing that his buddies are gone,
knowing that best case scenario, he's going to come upon
other Afghans, knowing that he could be tortured, horrible things
could be done to him, knowing that he's most likely
(29:23):
just going to die out there, and you better off
just lay and still because his body's broken, and yet
he keeps crawling. What is that that keeps crawling? What
is the thing within us? The desire to live, the
desire to create, to build, to do. He had to
tell the story. Somebody had to tell the story of
the story wouldn't be told. So it's always bothered me
(29:45):
on the issue of suicide. And I got on suicide.
I don't think Todd Snyder committed suicide. Don't conflate those two.
But this is important to me and it comes up
a lot. And so since I'm on the subject, when
people refer to people who committed suicide as cowards, I
don't think you've ever been around someone who wanted to
commit suicide. Because if you have you understand that that
(30:08):
person is hurting so badly, sometimes physically, almost always mentally,
and they just want the pain to end the same
way you stop running when you were supposed to run
the mile the first day you started back on your
workout program, and you got three quarters of a mile
and you thought your stomach, your loans were going to explode,
and so you stopped. You didn't stop because you're a
(30:28):
bad person or a coward. You stopped because you just
couldn't push any further. You didn't know your limits, You
didn't want to suffer anymore. I think that people get
to a point where they are suffering so much and
they just want to end the suffering, and they see
no other way to end the suffering, and they feel
horrible for what they're going to have to do to
everyone else, from the cleanup to literally and physically to
(30:52):
burying this person in mourning. They're passing, but they can
see no way out, and this pain is to advance.
I don't think he necessary really committed suicide, but I
think Todd Snyder was in a very very bad spot
and he was hurting terribly. And it saddens me to
know that there are a lot of people who are
probably quite a few people listening right now, that in
one way or another, are in that position. I wish
(31:12):
I could hug that out. I wish there was a
drug we could take. I wish there was a way
to quickly and easily make that go away. Well there's not.
It's life. It's unfortunate. That's Arsano
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