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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
The Michael Very Show is.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
On the air.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Patty O'Brien, ex Irish assassin, his trademark A superstitious man,
he leaves a tiny keepsafe from his good luck bracelet
on every victim he kills. Scotland Yard would love to
get their hands on.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
That piece of evidence. Yes, they're always after me. Lucky charms.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
What by everyone as laugh When I say that, you'll go.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
In there, You'll say, and you have work to do
in the morning. Give them your dream of God forgets
your sailors and go cheer Genoa.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You do very general is.
Speaker 7 (00:52):
On sign.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
Tell you and then lag this.
Speaker 8 (01:01):
Tell them.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
I don't let this.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Don't like him.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
I want listens speak, so sad.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Fun said, So that's.
Speaker 8 (01:39):
Sagan magt.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Megantas Megants met.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
A fellow who writes under the name Texan says, hey,
Zara suggests some very good Irish music performed by extremely
talented Celtic singers, and he proceeded to list them and
says all these songs can be found on YouTube. Would
have been awesome. The other thing missing is the leak
was already included in the email. But I do appreciate it.
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But more importantly, he says, by the way, today is
my forty sixth winning anniversary with my beautiful bride.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Congratulations to you and her.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
President Donald Trump shared a video showing hundreds of criminal
and gang member illegal aliens being deported to El Salvador.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
The story from Fox News.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Sendate Trump is thanking the president of El Salvador. The
country's leader posted this video on x showing what he
said were more than two hundred trend to Iragua members
arriving at El Salvador over the weekend. He says they
were transferred to a terrorism confinement center for one year.
A senior Trump administration official tells Our Bill Mallusian two
hundred and sixty one illegal aliens were deported to El
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Salvador on Saturday. Of those, one hundred and thirty seven
were removed via the Alien Enemy's Act of seventeen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
This wartime authority.
Speaker 7 (03:47):
Gives the president the power to deport non citizens without
a judicial hearing. The Act has only been invoked three
other times in American history. On Saturday, at federal judge
ordered the Trump administration to stop the deportations to see
of its invocation was legal, but the White House has
two plans carrying alleged Venezuelan gang members were already in
international airspace when the judges ruling came down, so they
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argue they did not defy a court order. The President
is justifying the use of the Act.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
He's what people as as.
Speaker 9 (04:17):
That was our band group of as. I say, congres now,
this is a time of war because Biden allowed millions
of people, many of them criminals, many of them at
the highest level. They empty jails out of the nation's
empty their jails into the United States.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's an invasion.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
As it turns out, one of those gang members wrote
a song about his experience being sent to El Salvador.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
Why do he pull me on his plane? I'm motu
to USA. I leave here a long long time to
continue life for crime. I come from Van Sway, member
of Trenda Awa. Gotta face that doo I really like
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like Post Malone and Iron Mike. Why are we landing
in El Salvador? These place is carried at for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Wish I stayed and got a guss and never went
to the US to kick me out of the US.
From kick me out of the US. Nowaii in prison
and I'm.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
Literally don't drop the subob and el sal I won't
go home.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
O is bad?
Speaker 8 (06:06):
I wonder go to Venice.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Things had become so bad in this country that we
were numb to them, almost accepting of them in a sense.
I mean, how much outrage can we manufacture? There were
so many things going so wrong, so much waste and corruption.
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I mean, we're not even two months into this administration,
and look what we've already learned about, and these are
just pockets of waste. This USAID just pockets of waste.
We haven't even begun to get into the big funds,
social security fraud. And you think, what, how do they
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get away with it? How did this become something so
big that it got we can't get our arms around it. Well,
the Democrats and the bureaucrats and the media conspire to
very effectively. You talk about good messaging. The Democrats are
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in a lot of trouble with a lot of their stances,
but one thing they do extraordinarily well is they protect
the entitlements. Because as long as government is providing some
amount of money to people, even if for every ten
dollars they take in for a particular fund, even if
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they steal six or seven of it for themselves. As
long as they give, as long as they feed the bear,
the bear stops learning to eat on his own, and
they own that bear, and they own a number of Americans,
Americans with disabilities or who claim disabilities, senior Americans. There
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are a number of categories of people who are getting
less than they would get if the funds were honorably administered.
But whatever they are getting, they've come to rely on,
and so now it's very hard. So what are the
Democrats saying.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Trump's going to end sold security?
Speaker 10 (08:23):
I think it's the term anal intercourse on your.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Program, Michael Arry, if it's relevant to his story for journalistic.
Speaker 11 (08:30):
Purposes, You're still alive, little, barely breathing, just praying to
a god that I don't believe in.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
This is your choice.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
She got freedom.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, they are irish, but I mean you could have
played the furious.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Growing up other than Saint Patrick's Day, which we weren't
a drinking family. So Saint Patrick's Day just meant pinning
a green piece of paper that you'd, you know, tear out,
or take a piece of paper and color it and
tear a corner of it and pin it to you
in that.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Way you didn't get pinched.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
But about as irish as my dad's side of the
family is Irish, but as irish as you got in
Orange texaas was eating lucky charms.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
That's lucky, he's that lucky.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Charge gymnastically and make.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
A hide in sight would be lucky charm with the
country old cereal with marshmallow surprises, pink hats.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yellow wounds, haring stars, clean or.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
Diamonds, rags, very your lucky char hear me, friends, the
part of this Chris Rock the.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Lucky time delicious.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Unless your mother chose to express your Hibernian try with
your choice of soap.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
The freshness of a spring morning reminds me of the
freshness am I Irish spring salt. It's spring time in
a bar in these green and white stripes or tools,
the orderance that live your feet and clean and fresh
a long long time.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Irish spring. Now that's my kind of soap, and we
like it do.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Irish spring leaves you feeling clean and fresh.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
A long long time.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It does have a nice smell to it. I will
say that it has a very nice smell, and it
does it does feel clean.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's not pure, but it's it's a nice soap. I
don't even I'd like to go to the call, but
I have no idea. What what lera? Well you spelled
it el elie l a.
Speaker 12 (10:54):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
No, it's e l a oh leilah? What are you Chinese?
Speaker 9 (11:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Not you heart? Ramone American?
Speaker 10 (11:04):
Got some Scott in English.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Okay, so your name is Lula l e l a
and Ramone spelled at l e r I on the screen.
It's not it's not even clothes.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And the worst part is I thought, maybe just try
to spell mary.
Speaker 10 (11:22):
It looks like.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Anyway, what'd you call about?
Speaker 10 (11:29):
I was a Hustonian growing up. I wanted to tell
you three quick things or so, but I won't take long.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (11:38):
Uh. My dad told me that Marvin Zimber used to
go to his dad's shop when he wanted a suit,
and he would take take one, you know, and so
his dad got tired of that, so he made his
clothing store into a big entile shop. I thought that
was funny.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Who was your friend?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Then?
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Who was your friend?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
What was it? What was the name of the friend?
Speaker 12 (12:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
My dad and my dad told me that what was
it What was your dad's name?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (12:09):
Anythink was John Stewart. Then he died many years ago,
twenty years ago. But anyway, he told me a couple
of other things. It's funny Marvin Zummer was taking somebody
transferring him to jail, to prison or something, and that
there must have been two people. But anyway, they got
away and they they tied Marv into a tree, most
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of him tied up. You know. That was thought that
was kind of funny. Oh there was another one too. Anyway,
I've been kind of nervous, so that's why un't nervous.
Speaker 12 (12:48):
They had.
Speaker 10 (12:50):
Okay, they had a disturbance in the courtroom one time.
Somebody uh started yelling screaming. Anyway, Marvin Dumber got under
the the desk there. I thought that was kind of
funny too.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
There is audio out there and we may have it
in our archives. I'll see if Chad can find it
of a report that Marvin Zendler did. It was a
radio report and it was about let's see when this
would have been sixty probably the it was either the
late fifties or maybe early sixties would be my guess.
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And it's Marvin Zenler on he's out on location, but
he's talking real low because we think the murder suspect
might be inside the house. We are outside the house
right now. And it was it was so over the
top theatrical that looking back, you would have to know
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this guy was going to become the star of the circus.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You had to know it. I mean, it's just a
question of what he was going to end up doing.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
But you knew that this guy was not going to
be a reporter that was just going to kind of
go about his business and move on down the road.
That was not going to happen. He was going to
do something grand, no matter what. And of course we
know that he did.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So I was trying to decide whether I was going
to tell you that story or not, and I don't
have time, but I will tell you this.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
The act that the president is using to deport the
trende Aragua gang bangers is called the Alien Enemies Act.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It was passed in seventeen ninety eight. You got to
get clever on these things.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
He made it public on Saturday through a presidential proclamation,
and the story goes behind the scenes Stephen Miller without
telling anyone other than Christy Noam. They gathered and coordinated
the deportation of these folks on a pla lane and
stage the whole filming of it with Bukele, the leader
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of El Salvador, and there was trende Aragua landing.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And I mean, you talk about a military force.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
El Salvador brought out the boys and they're all armed
to the teeth and they bring them in, they shave
their heads and they throw them into the El Salvador
in prison. And so this judge here in the US
puts a stay on this. But Trump's argument is they
were already in international waters.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
It doesn't apply.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
And Naib Bukele, the president of El Salvador, when the
when the story came out, he responded to that story
that a stay had been put on it with oopsie
because now he's got the bad guys in his prison.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And as you know, Bukele has agreed to.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Imprison these people, to store them for us and throw
them in his prison, for which we will pay him
and we're happy to do it. But Trump's message, and
this is what's important, that was a message for us
back home that we're taking this seriously. Look what we're doing,
even if he never gets to send another one, and
I think he will. But the other thing is that
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tells the trend Aragua folks in Venezuela. You don't want
to get end up getting butt raped in an El
Salvador in prison.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
So don't come on because there is nothing here. Michael
Barry Show.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
It's two and a half hours in, and we finally
get the Furies. We've had ten the U two songs.
We finally get the Fury. So this makes people uncomfortable,
but it happens to be true and tragic, So I
have to say it. There is a portrayal in America
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and has been for quite some time, quite some time.
There is a portrayal of black elected officials that couches
them in the language and caricature of civil rights activists.
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And some of them are just corrupt criminals, but the
media talks about them in these soaring terms. So ramon,
can I get some music that suggests that what will
we do? Our great black leaders.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Have left us. Leave it to your discretion. This is
an article in the Houston Chronicles, not really an article.
It's a column for us.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
In fairness, it's not being passed off as news and
passed off as a collar a woman named Joyce Sewing.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I don't know her. I know she's a black female,
and she writes a column and that's all I know.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Headline with Sylvester Turner and Sheila Jackson Lee Gone, who
are Houston's next generation of leaders? Wild Houstonians paid tribute
to the life of Sylvester.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Turner this weekend. This was written a couple days ago.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Morning comes with the community's deep concern about the future
of his congressional seat. The deaths of two sitting members
of Congress within a year has been a heavy blow
to Texas's eighteenth Congressional district, which includes nearly eight hundred
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thousand people across Downtown, a portion of the Heights Acres, Holmes,
Third Ward, and Northeast Houston, as well as Humble and
the area surrounding.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
George Bush in her Continental Airport.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Turner, who served two terms as Houston's mayor, died March fifth,
just months two months after stepping into the job held
for the nearly thirty years by US Representative Sheila Jackson Lee.
She died in July from pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Now listen to this.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
The bar has been set high by Lee A's Sheila
Jacksonville and her predecessors Barbara Jordan, Mickey Leland, and Craig Washington,
who called out a legacy of strong representation bar for
the district and a dedication serving.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
The people who lived there. Was a person.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Let me read that again. The bar has been set
high by Sheila Jackson Lee and her apprentices who coved
out a legacy of strong representation for the district and
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a dedication to serving.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
The people who lived there.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
In nineteen seventy two, Jordan was the first Black woman
elected to Congress from the South. This language would be
appropriate for Barbara Jordan, by the way, no joke. This
would be an appropriate in coommium for Barbara Jordan, not
for Sheila Jackson. Still, the political horizon is not clear
regarding who has been nurtured, mentored, and ready to serve
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as our next US representative. Tiffany Thomas, a Houston City
Council member and assistant professor of Community Development Politics at
Prairie View and M University quote, so much of the
grooming and nurturing of the next generation of black politicians
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is happening quietly. There is something to be said about
the time the quiet time sitting at the feet of
elder statesmen. Ah, can you imagine sitting at Sheila Jackson
Lee's feet?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Hm, the thing I don't eat breakfast.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Thomas, who is serving a second term representing District F,
said that Turner was one of several lawmakers who helped
guide her political career. He appointed her as chair of
the Council's Housing and Community Affairs Committee before running for office. Mitchell,
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when I ran for City Council in twenty nineteen, I
never knew I'd be ready to address police reform, rent
relief and other issues.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
But it was that quiet time when.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I was in the rooms taking notes that prepared to
me the night Sylvester Turner won in November. He told
me he wanted to continue to support the next generation
and understood his place as elder statesman to bring them
into the rooms the batons being passed by fence. Thomas
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said Turner provided her with invaluable guidance from the beginning
of her first council term. Former Houston City Council member
Carol Robinson, who she met while in high school, and
Sheila Jackson Lee.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Were also her mentors.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Sheila did not mentor you by taking you to lunch
or coffee. She would send a message that she was
having a press conference at midnight, and she told you
to be there. She said, this is not the PTA,
it's public surface and put me in the rooms that
I had no business being in.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I wasn't the only one she did that with.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Thomas, forty three, is among the next generation of black politicians.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Who are charged with caring fort.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
The spirit and the legacies of Sylvester Turnery, Shela Jackson Lee,
and others. In November, Jackson Lee's daughter, Erica Lee Carter,
also in her forties, was.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Elected to fill the last two months of her mom's
congressional terment.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Thomas said, Mayor Turnament and Sheila Jackson Lee made sure
that people knew what they deserve. So the people of
the district will hold whoever is in the next seat
in the seat next accountable.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
They have been so supportive of us to continue to
tow the line.
Speaker 12 (23:56):
Please toe the line. Things is going on so goodness town.
With the leadership of Sheila may she rest in peace
and Sylvester Gosh, don't we miss him?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
They have led this community out of the depths of
doctors into the lights and prosperity. They have given all
they had to give, but the race is now wrung.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Who will step forward.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
And lead us?
Speaker 12 (24:30):
The people?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
The black people, as only they could do?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Would tell them Michael Barry.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I said, love overed you down.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Under the mine, Play the last bast on chorus, who
the Pace?
Speaker 8 (24:55):
Play the flowers on the Fall.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I didn't drink till those twenty nine so it was
a great deal for me.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
When I was living in England, says I would go downstairs.
The English law school program I was in at the
University of Nottingham, it was three and a half days
of class. It was a PhD instead of a law degree.
But here it's called an LLM because you get your JD,
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your juris doctorate. You you get your bachelor's and then
you skip the masters and you go straight to the doctorate,
which is a juris doctorate or JD. That's what lawyers
are as opposed to MD or PhD. And so because
it was a PhD program, you're not in class as much.
So it would be a three and a half day
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program and then I'd spend three and a half days traveling.
I bought a beater of a car called Vauxhall, which
is just a Chevy, but their version of Chevy for
a thousand pounds when I got there, and I sold
it for a thousand pounds when I left, So I
had a free car for a year, and I would
eat downstairs. There was a pub beneath my flat, and
I would eat there because you could eat for I
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don't know a pound, you know, a couple of bucks,
because the idea was it was a pub. If you
eat there, then you'll you'll buy pints. But I didn't
buy pints. I'm sure they hated me. I didn't even
buy a drink because I was on a pretty stiff budget.
So I'd eat my great food. And you know, people
will tell you that English food is horrible. Well, they
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didn't add anything to the International Culinaria Hall of Fame.
But when you're trying to get full on very little money,
mushy pea soup is pretty darn good, actually, believe it
or not. Anyway, this that group, the Furies, was a
favorite of the pub owner, who was Irish, and he
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would play the Furies, and wherever I'd go, I'd managed
to kept hearing the Furies. I've never heard this band before.
I mean, everybody knows to Drop Cake, Murphy's and the
traditional Celtic bands, Irish bands, but I would hear this,
and you didn't have Shazam back then, and I would
ask him.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Got to knowing pretty good. And even though I wasn't
spending any real money with him because I didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Drink, he would put the Furies on when I came in,
and i'd sit at the bar and chat with him,
taking somebody's bar seat who was drinking beer or whatever.
We got on pretty well, and I loved the Furious,
So I thought, we're going to get the Furies at
the RCC. And I don't care if nobody buys a ticket,
as long as they come out and enjoy this music
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with me. I love the Furies, and I contact them.
Takes me forever to get through to them, but I
contact them, and they wanted some insane amount of money,
and I mean insane for them, it was insane. I
could have got you know, Don Williams or somebody for
this amount of money, and I thought, well, there's no
way y'all get that amount of money.
Speaker 10 (27:56):
Yet it.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I said to their manager, who I think was their
landlord or something, Why so much and he said, well,
we have to fly over and fly back.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I'll cover that.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, but that's time that we could be performing, and
we perform almost every day, and we don't have a route.
We don't have any routing, so we don't have one
else to defray the cost of us. So we got
travel time there and travel time back. Okay, I can
get that. So now what you're really doing is time
them up for about five days. But all that by
way of saying, I was very disappointed. That was one
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of the dreams that I was not able to make
come true. I do want to say, well, I want
to say something about Jim Mudd, but I'll do that
as we go to break.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So it's not a harmless.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Mistake to write these articles, these glowing articles about people
like Sylvester Turner and Sheila Jackson Lee.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I didn't get to the end of the article, but
listen to this.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
That person will stay on the shoulders of Turner, Jackson
Lee and those before them. In the days and weeks ahead,
we will see who else is ready to stand on
the shoulders of these shuston giants. They would never use
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that language about a Republican.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And I don't even think they'd use that language about
a white Democrat. There is this idea.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
That black elected officials who are incredibly corrupt, extraordinarily racist, bitter, resentful, mean,
self dealing, that all they have to keep doing is
saying we're.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Working for the people. I'm out here fighting to fight.
What are you fighting? What exactly are you fighting? Tell me?
All we hear is how concerned for the community.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Sheila Jackson Lee was I highlighted some words here dedication
to serving elder statesman. What does she do to serve
public service? Elder statesmen? Elder statesman is used multiple times?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
What was she doing?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I've asked this question for years. She was fighting for
the people, and they'll tell us that she was fighting
for women. Basically, she was fighting for women, poor people,
black people. How was she fighting for them because they
were in the front row seat and she wanted it
on the flight back from DC.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
That was a black woman. How was she fighting for them?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Cussing out Jerome with his fat ass and three days
later he kills himself because he's a staffer unfortunate enough.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
To buy all this crap. And that's what pisses me off.
Young black people, go look it up. Look up Sheila
Jackson Lee worst boss in Congress. You got four hundred
and thirty five members of.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Congress, four hundred thirty five, one hundred if you add
in the Senate five hundred and thirty five multiple years,
Sheila Jackson Lee distinguished herself as being named the worst
boss in all of Congress. Do you know how hard
you got to work to come in first place with
that many asses in Congress, that many awful, brutal, abusive personalities.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
But not Sheila.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
She's heading shoulders. She's a full crown weave above them.
So you get these young people. Go read Tim Flex
article Driving Michila. It's online Driving Michila. She had a
young black woman whose parents had come to the congressional office.
They were excited they were going to meet their daughter's boss,
and Sheila Jackson Lee cussed her out, called her all
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sorts of nasty names.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
She young black girl. She looked up to Sheila.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Jackson Lee, and she told the story that Sheila Jackson
Lee abused her and wouldn't go out and see her parents.
How embarrassed with she She had a blind woman working
for her. She threw a bucket the woman I can't
tell you how many young black people I know who
went to work for her and she abused them, cussed
them out, she humiliated.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You heard the audio, Jerome.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
And your fat ass who talks to somebody.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Like that, is that whose shoulders were standing on? This
is not harmless.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Stop making heroes out of corrupt black politicians because young
black people don't know any better and they get sucked
into this system.