PM Show Hr 1 | The Collapse of the Democrat Party

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael
Verie Show is on the air. What happened? Something must
have happened. It's not you, it's me.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
You're giving me the it's not you, it's me routine
I invented.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's not you, it's Smith. Nobody tells me it's them,
not me. If it's anybody, it's me. George, it's you.
You're a damn right, it's me.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Let's start with the new poland that shows the Democratic
Party has preached an all time low in popularity. The
latest NBC News national poll finds that a majority of
registered voters fifty five percent, have a negative view of
the party, while just over a quarter of registered voters
have a positive view of the party. That's the party's

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lowest rating in NBC News polling dating back to nineteen ninety. Meanwhile,
though he Knews ANSSRS poll finds the Democratic Party's favorability
rating at just twenty nine percent, a record low going
back to nineteen ninety two and a drop of twenty
points since January of twenty twenty one. What's more, just

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sixty three percent of Democrats and Democratic leaning independents have
a favorable view of their own party, down nine points
from January and eighteen points from the start of the
Biden administration.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Good, lady, you know good.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
We want the Democrats to collapse, and exactly the moment
voters are going into vote. Does us less good today
than it will next November for them.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
To fall apart.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
The challenge for US is going to be now that
we've got them down. It's really an unforced err on
their part, to be honest with you, mostly to keep
them down, to keep our boot on their neck figuratively,
to keep their brand in disrepair.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I want to talk about that today.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
But first President Trump with a very important call with
President Vladimir Putin of Russia. This was the press release
that came shortly after, which was at about twelve thirty
Central today, came this missive. Today, President Trump and President
Putin spoke about the need for peace and a ceasefire
in the Ukraine War. Both leaders have read this conflict

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needs to end with a lasting peace. They also stress
the need or improved bilateral relations between the United States
and Russia. The blood and treasure that both Ukraine and
Russia have been spending in this war would be better
spent on the needs of their people. This conflict should
never have started and should have been ended long ago
with sincere and good faith peace efforts. The leaders agreed

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that the movement to peace will begin with an energy
and infrastructure ceasefire, as well as technical negotiations on implementation
of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, full ceasefire,
and permanent peace. These negotiations will begin immediately. In the
Middle East, the leaders spoke broadly about the Middle East

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as a region of potential cooperation to prevent future conflicts.
They further discussed the need to stop proliferation of strategic
weapons and will engage with others to ensure the broadest
possible application that's Iran. The two leaders shared the view
that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel.

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The two leaders agree that a future with an improved
bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside.
This includes enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability. When peace
has been achieved. The left will call this Russia collusion,

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They'll call Trump Putin's puppet, they will call this everything.
But what it is this is diplomacy done right. This
is that word that is all too often given and
very rarely accurate. This is statesmanship, This is the stuff

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of legend. This is how great empires are built. This
is how peace is established and maintain pained. This is
how you end wars. This is how humanity sees great
improvement in transportation, literature, cuisine, fashion, commerce, health, science, astronomy.

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This right here, Joe Biden was incapable of doing. He
was not only not capable of doing it. It was
not desired for the people who are running the country,
because we know that wasn't Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
For this to happen.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
You always have to remember you don't have street crime
of prostitution and drug selling in the neighborhood for.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
No good reason.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
It's there because somebody is making a living at it.
Somebody might even be getting rich off of it. You
don't have fentanyel deaths on accident. You don't have fentanyl
in the possession of children on accident there's money to
be made. You don't have sex trafficking because that's the

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state of nature. Someone had to create that. Once you
begin to understand that some people are profiting by the
war in Ukraine, and some of those people are Americans,
some of those people are calling for more money or
having the people they control call for more money so

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that Ukraine can protect themselves against that big bully of Russia.
But as Vladimir Zelensky has said, he's not getting most
of the money we supposedly send to him, and no
one is answering the question who is, because somebody is.
It's not falling out on the way to the bank.
It's not being held with a fishing line outside the

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stadium and as somebody reaches down to grab it, they
pull it back and make a TikTok video out of it.
It's being stolen by the people who are controlled the
war and confiscating this wealth for themselves. What President Trump
did today is pure it's we're not there yet, but

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it is pure beautiful statesmanship.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
This is the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
The themes we've been discussing of late is the absolute
collapse of the Democrats. CNN did a poll that in
CNN's existence Democrats, the Democrat brand has never been at
a lower mark.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
People get it. This is bad.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
NBC did a poll the Democrat brand hadn't been this
bad for thirty years. We're talking about the Democrat brand
is worse than when America knew for certain that Bill
Clinton lied when he said I did not have sex
with that woman. He did. He was bonking the intern

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in the White House. Well maybe not bonking, but he
was putting his stick where he shouldn't and then smoking
it later. I mean, it was it was all bad.
It was all bad, and that was bad for the
Democrat brand. It's worse today, and I got to tell
you I love it. I want it to continue. I

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do not want the voices of reasonableness to emerge.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I want the crazy ones.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
The Jasmine Crockett, the AOC, the ilhan Omar, the Sister Bride,
the Ayana Presley's I'm here for it. I want their
craziest people to stay on the microphone. I want the
grown man with a beard and purple wig and fake
boobs in his tutu to be demanding that these crazy

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Republicans be replaced.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I mean, I want more of it, because that's how
we win.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
So here is Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy on Meet the
Press when he was asked why Democrats are polling so poorly.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Our new NBC News poll, as you just saw, shows
the Democratic Party at an all time low approval rating.
Why do you think Democrats are failing to connect with
Americans that this critical moment of urgency would.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
You describe, Well, it's what I just talked about.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
I mean, I think Americans want the Democratic Party to
stand up and fight and to take risks. Listen, I
understand that had we gone into a shutdown, even for
a handful of days, it would have been difficult, but
it would have sent a message that the Democratic Party
is not going to be bullied by Donald Trump. We
are not going to let them write spending bills unilaterally

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that cut programs for people we care about, that give
the president new and extraordinary power.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
I think Democrats in.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
This country, but I think the broad middle of the
public as well, want to see our party fighting in
exceptional ways. That is the conversation that has to happen
inside of the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Inside our caucus.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
And if we don't get that right, if we continue
to work with Republicans, if we continue to hand Donald
Trump more power, we are going to lose our democracy.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Well, when we're back to losing the democracy again, I
forget these silly little phrases they use. Well, that's not
the reason you're pulling so poorly, But let's keep going.
Chris Matthews was driven out of MSNBC for sexual harassment
and drunkenness. I don't know that he stopped harassing women
nor being drunk because he.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Always sounds slow, slowly.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
He always sounds like a slightly less flamboyant Barney Frank
To me, I just keep thinking, at one point, he's
just gonna rip one, like Barney Frank did on television.
Fairness Fairness to Barney Frank, he probably didn't know he farted,
may not have any sphincter control. But here's Chris Matthews.
He's been brought back. Things are so bad for the
Democrats They've had to overlook his sexual harassment and bring

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him back. I mean, this is this is really good.
Why are Democrats so poorly? Are you ready for this?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Give this a listen, Chris Matthews, what do you make
of these numbers for the Democrats?

Speaker 7 (11:07):
Well, you could have seen them the night did Trump
address the Congress, and you watched the Democratic Party. They
seemed like they weren't there. They were sort of vacant.
They weren't saying anything with their manner. They never questioned
the facts. They let the president lie about Social Security
and said that we're giving benefits to people who are
one hundred and sixty years older to their grandchildren. We

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allowed Elon Musk to go on television and tell everybody
that we're using social Security as a lure to bring
people into the country illegally. They were giving them benefits
which were not we're giving them to illegal people in
the country who come in illegally, we give it to them.
Lie after life life and said nothing. I'll tell you Carville,
James Carver, who said the Democrats should stay solid maybe

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partially right, but where he's wrong is you have to
have a fact checker. There needs to be a war room.
Remember in nineteen ninety two, remember how Bill Clinton won
that of license because he had a war room he
enjoyed Stephen office were down there in Little Rock and
they were checking every fact. And nobody checks the facts anymore,
and the lies are getting through to the American people.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's an interesting reference.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Nineteen ninety two, Bill Clinton won, and Bill Clinton won,
according to Chris Matthews, because he did fact checking. Fact
Checking is such an interesting word. It's a euphemism because
what really happened was that Bill Clinton's mistresses started coming forward,
and so Hillary assembled a hit team headed by her

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and D D.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Myers.

Speaker 8 (12:42):
D D.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Myers would later refer to it as having to squelch
to silence the as she called them, bimbo eruptions.

Speaker 8 (12:53):
D D.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Myers was the woman whose job it was to destroy
the women who came forward and said that they had
had sex not one time, but for years with Bill Clinton.
He had side girlfriends for years at a time. So
the job was Byddie Myers and Hillary Clinton at Hillary's direction,

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not to fact check. It was to destroy, to humiliate,
to demean, to cancel. So understand that when Chris Myers
of Chris Matthews says we've got to get back to
facts checking, what he means by that is, we've got

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to get our members in the media, our Democrat media,
to start saying everything Trump says is a lie and
to start attacking Trump constantly inciting violence against Elon and
the President. They already got the man shot in the
head once and there have been multiple attempts on his life.

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Did you ever notice there was never an attempt on
Joe Biden's life. I wonder why that is. It's almost
as if it all comes from one side. It's almost
as if it's being called for, it's being asked for,
it's being ordered, it's being directed and coordinated. Because it is.
Let me close with this point the reason Democrats are losing.

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Here's an example. Judge Susan Crawford. She's a Sorows back
candidate for the Wisconsin State Supreme Court. She was asked
about the endorsement of Sorrows and she can't answer the question.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Listen to you, George Sorrows, brace his endorsement, and you know.

Speaker 9 (14:46):
I have had generous contributions that have gone to the
Democratic Party of Wisconsin. The Democratic Party of Wisconsin has
endorsed me and supported my candidacy. But let's talk about
Elon Musk.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Michael Very Show yesterday we spoke at length about tariffs and.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
What they are, how they were, how the rest of
the country applies them to us to prevent our products
from getting into their country, hurting our manufacturing while we
bring their products into ours. The United States is or
has been self sufficient for much of its history. We

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make everything here, so we could close our marketplace to
the rest of the world and by only American products
Now that would create an inflationary effect. There's no doubt
cost more to make products here than it does the
rest of the world, because we require that you pay more,
that we have lawsuits. There are a lot of reasons

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it would cost more. It would cost you, the consumer more,
but it would necessarily increase American business.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
There's no doubt about that. Now.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Now, if we did that, a lot of tries cannot
sustain their needs without America's output. But they punish us,
They punish our companies and reduce our profitability in their
country by imposing these tariffs. So all Trump is saying

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is reciprocal teriffts that what you do to us, We're
going to do to you, Why is that unfair? Well,
of course it's not. Marco Rubio, I played you a
lot of this interview yesterday. Secretary of State was on
NBC's Meet the Press with Christen Welker this past weekend,
and he makes a very interesting point the situation today.

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The rest of the world loves it, Trump doesn't love it.
Most Americans didn't know to be angry, didn't know what.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
The rest of the world was doing to us.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
But now Trump is fighting for people, some of whom
are recognizing. Wait a second, why are we getting pushed around?

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I understand why these countries don't like it, because the
status quo of trade is good for them, it benefits them.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
They like the status quo. We don't like the status quo.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
We are going to set a new status quo and
then we can negotiate something if they want to that
is fair for both sides. But what we have now
cannot continue. We have to deindustrialize this country, de industrialize
the United States of America. There are things we can
no longer make, and we have to be able to
make in order to be safe as a country and
in order to have jobs.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
That's why we had a rost belt.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's why we've suffered all these important jobs that one
sustained entire communities wiped out by trade that.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Basically sent these factories, these.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Jobs, this industrial capability to other places that cannot and
will not continue out in President Trump, this is no mystery.
He's been talking about this since the nineteen eighties, actually
even before.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
He was a political figure.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
This is going to happen, and it's going to happen now.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Secretary of Treasury Scott Vessant, also on MSNBC's Meet Depressed
with Kristen Welker.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
Ask you about something that you actually said last week,
and we'll discuss it on the other side.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Take a look.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
Access to cheap goods is not the asset, is not
the essence of the American dream. The American dream is
rooted in the concept that any citizen can achieve prosperity,
upper mobility, and economic security.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
So, Secretary, are you there essentially saying that the Trump
administration is comfortable to have consumers pay more for goods
than America.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Not at all.

Speaker 10 (18:17):
Christ What I'm saying is the American dream is not
let any flat screens that the Americans. If American families
aren't able to afford a home, don't believe that their
children will do better than they are. The American dream
is not contingent on cheap babbles from China. That it
is more than that, and we are focused on affordability.

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But it's mortgages, it's cars, it's real wage cannings.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
And I'm going to tell you there is going to
be some inflation. But this is not inflation because we're
pumping too much money into the economy. This is inflation
related to an increasing cost of goods coming from outside
the United States. This is a re building year. This
is a short term pain for a long term gain,

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and no one wants to admit that. But if you
want to lose weight, I guess you go take a
shot now. But if you want to lose weight, you're
gonna have to work out. If you want to be okay,
if you want to build muscle, you're gonna have to
work out. And in the short term that lactic acid
is going to cause your muscles to ache. But in
the long term, you're going to build muscle, which is
good for you. You're going to do something that's good

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for you in the long term. That's not what we
were experiencing under the Democrat regime.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
So here's Scott.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Bessant talking to Kristen Welkoer in that same interview about
Chinese manufacturers having to suffer the way ours have.

Speaker 10 (19:42):
Because I believe, especially with the China terrafs, that Chinese
manufacturers they will eat, that will eat the price or
eat the terrorists. I believe that the currency adjust, and
I believe if we look there during President Trump's first term,
that all the other things we do, if we're deregulating.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
If we're getting energy prices.

Speaker 10 (20:05):
Down, then if we look across the spectrum, Americans will
realize lower prices and better affordability.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Also, Secretary Secretary of the Treasury Scott Besson asked about
a dip in the stock market again on NBC's Meet
the Press with Christen Wilker.

Speaker 10 (20:23):
One week does not the market make as Warren Buffett says, Oh,
the short term, the market is a voting machine, or
the long term it's a weighing machine. And again, Christen,
it would have been very easy for us to come
in run these reckless policies that have been happening before.
We've got these large government deficits six point seven percent
of GDP. We've never seen this when we're not in wartime,

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not more session. We are bringing those down in a
responsible way. We are going to have a transition and
we are not going to have a crisis.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
So look, you don't make massive changes without some short
term pain. I mean, even change itself is painful and stressful.
Here is Scott Bessen. I think he has had to
learn a lot talking about the term fake news, and
he thought that was kind of a dumb.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Term, but now he doesn't.

Speaker 11 (21:18):
When I was on the other side of the wall,
I never really liked the term fake news. Now that
I am on the inside and I can see what
they're reporting, I think the term fake news probably isn't
strong enough. It's really not that they start with an
a priori. They've written the story, and then they just
kind of shape shift facts to back into it. Because

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many of the stories that I've been involved with are
just so far off, so far all. There's a story
in the New York Times the other day they talked
about fifty percent head count decreases at the IRS.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Nobody's talking about that.

Speaker 11 (21:53):
These were on background, these were not named sources, and
they're just trying to start.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Cult mold during taxpayer filing season. I mean, it's crazy,
you know. It's one of those things.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
It's interesting, you don't people that don't want to believe
that illegal immigration is a problem, people that have argued
with me, you know, legal immigration is not a problem,
then they become a victim of crime by an illegal alien,
and I'm the one they want to call about. You
were right, you were so it's not until you personally
were affected that you saw it as a problem. There's

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the problem in America. You had to be personally affected.
It wasn't enough that everybody but you was affected. It
wasn't until it hit you that you were willing to
come off your high horse. That's the problem. That right
you the problem. You needed your ox gord until you
and until then you were going to say no, no, no.

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All these murders and rapists and traffickers coming in here,
there's no problem with it. Guitars, cigars, and a few
thoughts on Sunday, President Trump, I'm leaving it with Sunday
was on full measure with Cheryl Atkinson. We played you

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some of that audio yesterday. But she asked about the
release of the Kennedy files, the MLK Junior files, the
Epstein files, and there is a howling cry for these
damned files to be released. And I do believe President

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Trump is going to release them. I don't know that
he's going to release them as soon as everyone wants
him to. And we'll talk about that in a moment,
but let me not speak for him. Here's what he said.

Speaker 12 (23:43):
A lot of intrigues surrounding the release of the Epstein files,
Martin Luther King files, John F. Kennedy files, some current
and former FBI agents are saying, some of them telling
me that they feel the FBI establishment came out ahead
in the standoffs sort of with the New York FBI
office over releasing the records and your Attorney General Pam

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Bondi demanding them but not getting all that she wanted.
Is that process still on track? I think that's one
of the most often questions. I've been asked the last
couple of days to release these records on Epstein, MLK,
and JFK.

Speaker 13 (24:16):
Well, Pam Bondi has done a phenomenal job in every respect,
and there could have been some holeback. I haven't heard
too much about it, but they could. But the bottom
line is the records are getting out.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
The Kennedy records are getting out.

Speaker 13 (24:29):
Those are the ones that really wanted to see the
most with the Kennedys, and during my administration, as you know,
I released a lot of them. But then a lot
of people started coming in, people that are respected people
that work for the administration asked me not to release
the rest and I respected that. They gave me certain reasons,
but I respected that, and I did say, I must

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tell you, I said that probably wish I did release
the whole thing because I have no idea what's in there.
But since then they found and we found two thousand
more documents when Kennedy, and the one they want most
is Kennedy, and it's going to be released. It's moving along,
and it's moving along pretty rapidly.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
It doesn't we go there Yeah longer, I say weeks. Yeah,
I say weeks.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
So I think President Trump, with all his heart, wants
these things released for two reasons. He said he would
make it happen, and I do believe he cares about that.
I think that really matters to him. But I also

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think it's part of a bigger plan with him to
show you. I think I'm certain that Donald Trump knows
things that he doesn't even want to.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Tell you.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Because it would frighten you so much that many people
wouldn't be able to handle it. He has to moderate
what he reveals.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
It's that bad, you know. It's one of these great dilemmas.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
And it's an interesting point of conversation to discuss cases
that I've known of where somebody has a terminal cancer
and they don't tell anyone. Norm MacDonald, for instance, who
was not a friend of mine, I wish he was.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
I love Norm McDonald.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
I'm a super fan of Norm MacDonald. And he didn't
alert the world. In fact, almost nobody knew that he
had a terminal cancer, such that when he passed, even
close friends of his believed, Oh, it must have been
a heart attack, or it must have been something that happened.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
You know quickly. No.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
No, he had been suffering with a terminal cancer for
quite some time, and his lady friend, he was under
strict instruction not to tell us all.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
He didn't.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
He didn't want it to affect people's opinion of him.
He didn't want to have to deal with that. I
think President Trump wants these things out there, and I
think he's committed to getting them out there. But I
also think, well, you only get to reveal these things

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one time.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
So Trump is.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
The kind of guy that if he's got something on you,
he's going to use that to get you to vote
with him.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't know this.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Part for sure, but did you notice how quickly an effort,
effortlessly the Continuing Resolution was passed last week? The Republicans
didn't kick up any dust. Everybody just dutifully went along.
Now he's sitting on better approval ratings than usual. This
is quite quite surprising. And then Chuck Schumer did not

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put up any resistance. And isn't that interesting? Hm, Why
do you think that is? Because he wants good government?
Because Trump deserves, not even two months in to have
until September a funding bill through September and then we
can battle it out. But let him get his feet

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under him. Let's not disrupt everything. No, that's not how
Chuck Schumer thinks, not even a little bit. Chuck Schumer
does not those are thoughts he does not entertain, not
even a little bit, I think, And as we've discussed,
I think that's because Chuck Schumer.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Maybe he's got the goods on Chuck Schumer.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Maybe, but Chuck Schumer has taken a lot of heat
from the liberal of his party over his unwillingness to
battle it out with Trump and filibuster and his unwillingness
to drag this out and cause Trump a bunch of
problems which he could have done, including to the point
of potentially shutting down the government.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
They didn't mount a real campaign.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Now, now, Jasmine Crockett and AOC, those geniuses, they're not
criticizing Trump they're criticizing Chuck Schumer. Well, Chuck Schumer has
four years before he's up. This will be forgotten. It's
a six year term. He's not terribly worried today. But
you are worried, as we've discussed, when you have infighting

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in the Democrat Party, because you've got the left firing
at what is for them the middle, not the American middle,
but it's the middle of the Democrat Party. The middle
of the Democrat Party is way to the left of
American society. But even within the party there is a spectrum.
And Schumer is less about ideology than about the raw

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exercise of power and patronage. For Schumer to allow himself
to put himself in a situation where he can get
beat up by the left tells you that there is
some reason. And I think there are plenty of Republicans
on that list as well, and I think it has something.

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Once you reveal that list, and I want to see
as bad as you do, you can't hold it over
their head again the theory that has been proffered, and
I think there is a good chance.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
That there is something to that fear. I think there
is a very good chance that there is.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Something to that fear. It's an interesting Trump's holding all
the cards. I'll tell you that he's holding all the cards,
the willingness to go in, shatter the glass and pull
the files out, and show to the world that willingness
to open his own kimono, because if they catch anything
on him, you know they're gonna remember when they told

(31:07):
us that Trump was on that list, did not say
it anymore.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
He noticed that