PM Show Hr 1 | The Work of DOGE is Very Popular

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Verry Show is on the air. It's Charlie
from BlackBerry Smoke. I can feel a good one coming on.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh yes, it is.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Two six packs, Shinter ninety nine six, Putaine Ladder, look
as track center, fifth of Patrol. I stand letty glue Coodler,
take a guess at all to do?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
I can feel a good one coming on.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Throwing Rey Wily Hubbard sing a mound of red nick Mother,
any blues I had before a goal. Another working week
is over, no chance staying sober.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I can feel the good woman coming on.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
In the week. So man, we're gonna get the feeding right.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
We're gonna keep this fire.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I can feel the break of Dolly.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I can feel the good woman.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm coming on.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Three bloms in a wreck top Mustang follow us down
to the leaking.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Didn't have to think about.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
That too long, Skinny diving in the right moon eye.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
The situation couldn't be more. I can feel a good
one coming on. Yet, we're gonna get to feel it right.
We gonna keep this piney rock.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Until the bread none.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, I can feel a good one feel like a
good one.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
I can feel a good one coming off.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Well.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
The war for the future of America wages on. Yeah,
and it's a good feeling to get some winds. It
is a good feeling to watch the left vanquished and
brought before us. I see Bernie Sanders on his Oligarchy tour.

(03:07):
It is now Bernie Sanders and AOC who are traveling
the country screeching and I mean screeching, squawking ough nails
on a chalkboard, two cats on a high wire late
at night. You're trying to sleep and they're getting after it. Oh,

(03:29):
it's something, man. It just blows my mind. How many
people email me how upset they are about it, and
I keep telling them, you're missing the joke. Fellaw, these
are the good old days. You should be enjoying this drink.

(03:50):
Lap up those liberal tears. You have reduced your enemies
to madness. I will just read this directly from our
research director, which I never do. This wasn't a story
that was going to make it on the air, but
the way she's written it is so funny. She says

(04:12):
pooping on Tesla's and other signs of TDS, which is
Trump delusion syndrome, she says, keying and pooping on Tesla's
videos made from inside a car where the feminine appearing
individual screams and cries, shaved heads, and now a full
on naked video struggle session where a quote queer artist

(04:34):
and educator with Celtic roots end quote, spent thirty five
minutes describing how Trump has irrevocably damaged the arts by
his takeover of the Kennedy Center. Travis Forsyth, the contractor
at the Kennedy Center, posted a video of himself where
he's sitting and then laying in bed naked and advocating

(04:54):
for more drag shows paid for by you and me.
And he did it in almost iambic Pentameter fort sythe's
position at Kennedy Center was program director for the Center's
Opera Institute. F Donald Trump and in the Kennedy Center,
this isn't exactly someone you'd want to see naked. He's

(05:17):
kind of scrawny, can I say, manarexi and well somewhat
limited if you know what I mean. Much of the
post was spent in wondering if he should quit his
job to avoid being associated with the philistine like Trump. However,
he didn't have to wonder for very long. He was
fired by the Kennedy Center on Thursday. So I had

(05:38):
several people ask me when President Trump appointed himself to
be the head of the Kennedy Center, why would he
do that. He shouldn't be associated with that place. That's
difference between you and him. He doesn't run from the battle.
He runs to it. He's taking over the Kennedy Center.
We're going to change it. We're going to honor people

(06:03):
who share our values. We're going to honor people for
the right reasons. We're true artistic merit. So the story
in the New York Pie, in the New York Post,
Kennedy Center contractor fired after posting bizarre naked monologue bashing
President Trump's takeover. F Donald Trump. You can see the
story for yourself. It's on our page if you get

(06:25):
our if you get our blast every day, it's linked
in the Blast today. You can sign up for that
at Michael Berryshow dot com. He says, hold on, I
wanted to see if let's see if I can find
the line he said, Uh, we're all naked. Where is

(06:46):
the line where he says that we're born naked? And
everything after that is drag. So the very act of
wearing clothes itself is dragged. Well, I can't find it.
But you know, folks, if you leave New York, LA,

(07:07):
if you leave the big cities in the little section
Hawthorn in Portland, San Francisco, Seattle, if you leave the
actual core of these cities, not even the city itself,
but just his core, there are these areas where are
these artistic types and corporate types, and they all think
they're very smart, and they all think the rest of

(07:27):
us are idiots. They're absolute freak shows. And you get
outside of that, and ninety seven percent of America is
just looking at these people. You all need to be
in an insane asylum. They're honestly so whacked out. And
to think how many of them. We're in positions where

(07:50):
they're making a lot of money with a huge budget,
and they're all just sitting around thinking of the craziest
thing they can do. Well, let's put a visage of
Jesus Christ in a fromaldehyde jar with urine. Okay, all right,
so we did that, All right, what do we do next?
I mean, they literally just sit around thinking about what

(08:11):
can they do to upset their parents? Back home in Omaha,
and what because that makes them feel alive. You know,
look at us, we're pushing the boundaries. We're the modern
day Lenny Bruce, you're not funny.

Speaker 7 (08:22):
Something wong, Well, something must be right. You're listening to
Michael Berry. You don't want a thought today, do you know?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I've watched marriages that succeed and watch marriages that fall apart.
I've watched businesses that have grown from a garage to
multi billion, and I've watched businesses that have contracted and
fallen away with brand equity of fifty years or more.

(08:56):
And I noticed that in all of these cases, I've
seen classrooms where students learn and are excited. And what
was the keyts line? Education is not filling a bucket,
it's lighting a fire. I've seen kids get so fired
up over learning, and not just one thing, but lots
of things, engineering and architecture and science and mathematics and literature.

(09:20):
And then I've seen kids that can't understand why they
have to go to a prison every day from eight
to three and you know, get in trouble and have
to be and it's it's the same classrooms, same human being,
but a very different result. And at the core of
all of that is communication, the ability to communicate. It

(09:42):
seems so simple, but it's not. In fact, it's quite difficult. Actually,
communication is so important. On this day, in two thousand
and six, Twitter was founded. Who could have foreseen it
would become a two of our government, the deep state.

(10:03):
Tucker Carlson had a very very insightful, insightful commentary on this,
and I'm going to share it with you.

Speaker 8 (10:09):
Let's say you were trying to staff a social media site.
Who would you hire. Well, obviously, since it's a tech business,
you would hire tech people, coders, software engineers to keep
the place running. That you'd hire an administrative staff because
you had to some lawyers, a caterer or a flack
or two. Maybe to interior decorator if you wanted HQ
to look good. But how many spies would you hire?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Probably none.

Speaker 8 (10:32):
Spies have nothing to do with the mission of a
social media company. They would not be needed. And you
wouldn't hire any opera singers either. Yet for some reason,
Twitter seems to need an awful lot of spies. The
upper ranks of Twitter, we now know, were absolutely loaded
with people who once did intel work for government agencies.
At least fifteen of these people and possibly many more.

(10:53):
Most of them were hired in the wake of Donald
Trump's election. Now what were these people doing all day
and what was supposedly a social media company. Well that's
the question, isn't it. We know that James Baker came
from the FBI. He's been accused of secretly censoring and
criminating internal files before Elon Musk could release them to
the public.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Baker was fired for that. So that's some of what
James Baker was doing at Twitter.

Speaker 8 (11:14):
But how about Charles Smith of Twitter's Trust and Safety Department.
Smith joined Twitter after working at US Cyber Command HM.
Or how about Jeff Tokager, formerly a director of Naval Counterintelligence.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
What was he doing?

Speaker 8 (11:28):
Or Kevin Mcalena or Doug Hunter, Mark Jerezuski or Douglas Turner,
Karen Wallas Russell handar Vincent Lucera. All of these people
once worked for the FBI as well. Their colleague Jeff
Carlton came from the CIA. Patrick Conlin once worked at
the NSSA and so on. And it wasn't just American
intel officers who found a home at Twitter. The company

(11:50):
hired foreign spies too. In January, Peter Zakko was fired
from his position as Twitter's head of security. Reportedly, Zecho
lost his job because he complained about the level of
control that foreign intelligence agencies had over virtually all of
Twitter's operations. According to Zatco, there were operatives on Twitter's
payroll from other governments, including China and India, and they

(12:11):
had access to private user data.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
And those are just the details that we know about.

Speaker 8 (12:15):
Elon Musk was asked recently how many former FBI agents
are currently employed by Twitter, but he wouldn't say.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
It's all pretty weird.

Speaker 8 (12:24):
Could it be that while the rest of us imagined
that Twitter was a social media site, a placed event
about politics and sports and the Kardashians, could it be
that Twitter was actually, maybe primarily a propaganda tool and
intelligence gathering apparatus for a variety of intel agencies.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Well, yes, that's possible, and you can see why.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
Various governments would want access to the information that Twitter had.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Keep in mind that Twitter's direct.

Speaker 8 (12:48):
Message to DM feature functioned for many years as a
kind of private tex staff for some of the world's
most prominent people. So if you want to know what
high government officials really thought, or if you want to
know what well informed sources were telling reporters off the record,
you would want to see those messages. Did Twitter executives
ever share those dms, those private messages with anyone outside

(13:11):
the company without a warrant? We strongly suspect that they did.
The proof, of course, resides on Twitter servers, along with
a lot else. Think about it. If Twitter has been
functioning as an arm of government intel agencies, and clearly
it has been, then its internal documents will contain information
about all kinds of things, not just about the silencing

(13:31):
of Donald Trump, not just about Tony Fauci's buffoonish lies
about the COVID shot. No information about big history shaping events,
the sabotage of Nordstring two for example, the supposed poison
gas attacks in Syria, both of them, The imprisonment of
Julianna Sange why is he there? The theft of incriminating
emails from the DNC, what was that story? The motive

(13:53):
behind the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and much much more.
In other words, Elon Musk now has control of the
most significant trove of secret information ever to reside in
private hands. So far, we have not seen much of it,
and you have to wonder why we haven't. Let's hope
that we do.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
And now to get us started as well, always do
courtesy the greatest executive producer and all the land chatted
Toni Nakanishi.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
He we can.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I just started rewatching cojacket.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Like Padry.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
To see you near me or any of my family lead,
You'm gonna scatty old braves for me the way I play.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
How many of you remember from watching Kojack that Telly
Savalis's left index finger is bent down at all times
and stuck in a position to tell your client to
have his mouth behave. He's a prime candidate for a
good will cut. Why he just doesn't have it taken off?
Although he could probably balance things on but a small voice. Sonny,

(14:54):
you're in a heavyweight division.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
The nine month space saga for NASA ast Butch Wilmore
and Sonny Williams is officially coming to an end and
splashdown Crew nine back on Earth on behalf of SATHEX
Welcome Home.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Elon just rescued two astronauts that Biden left floating around
in space for none.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
We have just witnessed one of the greatest moments in
African American history and all African Americans should be rejoicing.
Houston has a ma flab in it. Talk about this
a meth lab under a high end apartment complex in
downtown Houston. This is when you miss Marvin's in.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
The Marvin Settler witnessed targeted attack on a Tesla repair
center in Las Vegas, video showing multiple.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Cars in flame. Man has been arrested in charge with
arson after trying to destroy a Tesla charging station.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Hasla's are being torched across the country, dealerships shot.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Up and set on fire. Elon has become the focal
point of that anger for them, and they're going to
bring to bear everything they can. They're going to terrorize Teslas,
They're going to burn charging stations. And this is why
it's going to be important that federal charges are brought
against these people for terrorism. And that's what it is.
It's it's a form of economic terrorism. How he does

(16:21):
the job of being the vice president differently than Kamala
Harris did. And you know, these are such exciting times
to live in if you are a member of the
media or a consumer of the media, because it's entertaining, engaging, exciting, exhilarating,

(16:47):
and there we are blessed with people with a great
deal of talent who've been put by Donald Trump into
positions where their voices are being heard. So the Mamby
Pamby Bush era years, the era of the John Bolton's
and Bush, Cheney, Romney McCain, you know, Mike Pins, we

(17:12):
stand very straight. We wear bankers suits of navy suits
with chalk stripes and wing tip shoes, and we have
our hair cut every week, and we stand for goodness
and resent. That's over. We got warriors in there now
and I love it. So this is jd Vance talking
about with Vince Collianaes talking about how he does the

(17:34):
job differently than Kamala did his VP. How are you
doing the job differently than Kamala did it?

Speaker 9 (17:42):
Well, I don't have, you know, four shots of vodka
before every meeting. That's That's one way I think that
Kamala really tried to bring her herself into the role
is these word salads. And I think that I would
need the help of a lot of alcohol to answer
a question the way that Kamala Harris answered questions. Look, man,
I don't know my sense is, and this is a

(18:02):
little bit of guesswork. Obviously I don't talk to Kamala
Harris or Joe Biden very often, but my sense is
that there wasn't a level of trust between Biden and Harris,
and so you know that there she was just less
empowered to do her job. And you know, luckily, I'm
in a situation where the president trusts me, where if
he asked me to do something, he believes it's going

(18:23):
to happen. And obviously, you know, we'll talk about it
and check in. But I feel empowered in a way
that I think a lot of vice presidents haven't been.
But but but that's all in the service of accomplishing
the president's vision, and I think I try to remind
myself of that. You know every single day that the
American people elected Donald J.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Trump to do a job.

Speaker 9 (18:41):
For him to do that job successfully, the people around them,
starting at the top with the vice president, have to
do their jobs well.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
One of the great tragic Greek tragedy dramas to play
out during the Patriots Great Years was that Bill Belichick
and Tom Brady did not like each other or couldn't
get along. I think what started as a working relationship

(19:13):
developed over time to be a tiresome burden for both
of them. And I don't know how much of that.
I think Belichick drove that, and I don't know how
much of that was in this It's easy to just say, well,
he was a terrible coach, and Tom Brady's a great
guy because Tom Brady's a good looking guy, and he
went down to Tampa and won a championship. Okay, but
Tom Brady didn't build those teams. And we could spend

(19:37):
six months of airtime on a sports station, twenty four
hours a day arguing how much of the Patriots' phenomenal
success like we've never seen before, how much of that
was Tom Brady and how much of that was the
doings of Bill Belichick and the people he put in
place in the way he coached. But you cannot deny

(19:58):
that Belichick had a huge job, and that was keeping
Tom Brady a team member and not a diva when
the media was telling him how Grady was, how good
he looks, you know, his wife, you know, he's the greatest,
and that affects a lot of things. You got to
keep him in check on how much you're going to

(20:18):
pay him. You got to keep him in check on
what plays are going to be called and how he's
going to execute them. You're gonna have to keep him
in check when when he shows up to training camp.
There are going to be times that Tom Brady is
going to want to make a decision in Tom Brady's
best interest that is not in the best interest of
the team. And as a coach, you have to be
prepared that when you snap the whip, he's going to

(20:41):
fall into line to some extent. And I think that's
why Nick Saban did not have success in the pros
like he did in college football, and now with the NIL,
I think that's why Saban got out. Mack Brown has
said it's not fun anymore. I think that's why that
style of coach struggles today. You don't see much of that.
They call him player coaches. Now what that means is
friend of the player. Hang out buddy. Maybe they'll want

(21:05):
to play for me because I'm a nice guy and
we hang out. But the old days of the chuck
Nole Tom Landry, that's gone well. I think Donald Trump
is still built on the mold of the tough coach
who wants to get other people. Donald Trump is very persuasive,

(21:26):
and he can be persuasive in different ways, and he
can be persuasive in different ways with the same person.
You look at the approach he's taken with Donald with
with Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio. He's gone from ridiculing
Marco Rubio to lifting him to the position of Secretary
of State. And now Rubio is in his service and

(21:47):
in the nation service, but in Trump's service, and he's
reading from the same music book that Trump is, and
they are in harmony. So one of the great challenges,
I guess, this is what I'm trying to say that
is going to play out, is that Trump has to
keep his team focused on the agenda he has laid out.

(22:14):
And that is hard enough to do any time you
have a person other than yourself carrying out your agenda,
because maybe they don't work as hard as you, maybe
they don't think exactly as the way you do. Maybe
they've got personal problems, challenges, drug addictions, sexual fleeings, drama
at home. So he's got these people, this team, this

(22:37):
cabinet of Marvel super heroes, that he has to keep
moving in the same direction, and that grows more and
more difficult as you get further into the administration, because
you get further away from their gratitude at you putting
them in this position, because you could have put anybody
there and closer to them thinking about what they're going

(22:59):
to do next. A lot of these people want to
go on to other jobs after Trump, So for a
while it behooves them to be in his service, his
loyal service, and be loved by the voters that might
put them in their next position. But not all of

(23:20):
them are going to want to go into elected office.
Some of the are going to want to cash out.
My guess is Marco Rubio was going to want to
cash out after the Secretary of State. Well, when that happens,
you start, you start that becomes a trying to love
two women's like a ball and chain Oakridge Boys song.
You start serving multiple masters. What I think is going

(23:43):
to be interesting is Trump's leadership style in the coming
months and even years as this thing begins to play out.
And look, this is not unique to Trump. The difference
between Trump and past presidents is as presidents have been
happy to be the president put people in place because

(24:04):
that's who they were told to put there, and not
really worry about him from there. Trump has a very
focused agenda and very clear messaging, and he wants everybody
on the same page at all times about that messaging.
That's why he is so effective, and it's going to

(24:26):
be interesting to watch him. To be honest with you,
loosely a boot Michael Berry almost Let's start with the
fact that what Elon Musk is doing with Doge is
very popular. Harry Inton at CNN reading off a poll

(24:48):
that says fifty four percent of Americans approve of Doge. Now,
you might when you hear that, you might think to yourself,
you know, because because we're accustomed to what a big
response is being more than fifty four percent, But you're
getting fifty four percent of Americans. You've got to realize
you have to write off about thirty five percent of

(25:10):
Americans that whatever you know is is does chocolate taste good?
Thirty five percent are going to say no. Is America
a good place to live? Thirty five percent are going
to say no to whatever whatever the obvious answer is.
There's thirty five percent that are just whack jobs. And

(25:31):
so fifty four percent is getting okay, you got sixty
five percent, it's getting you know, almost ninety percent of
what's left from the crazies. You have to take thirty
five forty percent out of everything. Is is Donald Trump
a financially successful businessman? Well, hell, forty five percent are
going to be again. First time it was Trump is no.

(25:52):
Answer is no. So this is a pretty amazing fact.
And this is what will set our predicate for the
conclusion coming.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Up about when we're talking about the cuts that dog
is bringing about, how are they feeling?

Speaker 5 (26:05):
Yeah, this to me was one of the more shocking
figures that I saw made go, wait a minute, hold
on one second, whoa Americans on Trump and Joe's efforts
musc and doze dose should influence government spending and operations.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Look at this, fifty four.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Percent the majority say that he and they should have
about approve of Trump trying to cut staff at government agencies. Again,
you get a majority here fifty one percent. So yeah,
Elon Musk might not be that popular, but these cuts
in the idea of spending cuts at least within the
federal government and cutting at government agencies that actually has
majority support. I was truly surprised by this cape.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
But the numbers are the numbers, Well.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
There is there is a view that cuts across Democrat
and Republican of people thinking that Washington is too big,
bloated federal government, waste, fraud, and abuse. I mean those
are drained the swamp as what people run on over
and over again. How do they feel? What do they
think they're actually cutting?

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Yeah, what do they think they're actually cutting? Democrats want
to argue that the type of spend that must is
cutting is mainly necessary programs, but that comes in at
just thirty six percent. The wasteful spending actually wins the
plurality here at forty two percent, according to a recent
Washington Post Episos Paul and I think that is the
reason why you see that when it comes to Dusk
and Moje Musk and Doge, you see in fact, the

(27:17):
majority believing he should have some influence because they believe
the plurality, believe that he is cutting wasteful spending, not
necessary programs that Democrats are.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
You also have to understand and remember you know this,
but you have to be reminded. We all have to
be reminded that the media, this same media that's making
this point. I can't believe he says I was surprised
fifty four percent of people. The reason he was surprised
is because he works at CNN. The day after day
is telling people that Trump is failing. Elon is horrible,

(27:47):
that everybody's dying. This is terrible. So the fact that
when you ask the people, hey, is Trump terrible? Is
everyone dying? The fact that over half of them say no, no,
that that's not happening. What you keep telling me is
not true. And that's what surprises these people. They all
live in a bubble. There's something more to it, Elon.

(28:12):
You may be over it. You may think Elon is
overexposed or had people tell me this. You may think, man,
I've had enough of Elon already. Understand this. It's a
big country. People work multiple shifts, they're distracted, they got
a lot going on. You've got to keep telling your
story again and again and again and again. And that

(28:32):
is a difficult thing to do. And yet Trump, and
yet Elon is doing it, and Trump is doing it,
and it's exhausting, it's grueling. But here is an example.
This is this is from a few days ago, more
than a few days ago, probably a week ago. Elon
was on Fox and we pulled this audio, because this
is the richest man in the world taking the time

(28:56):
to patiently lay this out to the rest of us
out here who punch of clock raise kids, don't have
his financial bearing, do not have his professional success, but
he understands you've got to keep the American people behind you.
So demystify this. How do you do it? Okay?

Speaker 10 (29:14):
How big is your team? Where'd you recruit most of
them from? And what is it that makes you choose
you know, the Treasury or Social Security or USAID?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Has it work? Let the public know? Please?

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Right, Well, we just basically follow the money. You know,
we look at the presence executive orders and we also
just follow the money. So we started looking closely at
USCID because they were completely violating the presence executive orders
to suspend foreign foreign aid you know what's called foreign aid.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
But in our view is a lot of corruption. So
where we sold there's just a trans.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Amount of money being sent to non governmental organizations. But
actually it's a this, by the way, is I think
one of the biggest sources of board in the world
is government funded non governmental organizations. This is a gigantic
fraud loophole where the government can give money to an
NGO and then that there are no controls over that NGO.

(30:17):
So they've given billions dollars that we estimate tens of
billions of dollars to NGOs that.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Are essentially scams.

Speaker 10 (30:26):
And by the way, I try to put us up
for that, you know, So I do want to interrupt.
Secretary of State Rubio has just come out, I think
he tweeted today he is accepted over eighty percent of
your recommendations to shut down in us AI D. So
your review and analysis was spot on.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yes, So I think.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
When people criticize, say what dog is doing, we say, well,
which parts? Specifically, because we put all of the actions
of the DOG team on the doors dot gov website
and on the DOGE headline x so we post the receipts,
so it's like this, this action has been taken, this
action has been taken. So when when we get criticism,

(31:09):
we say, like, of what of what? Which which line
do you disagree with? Like which which cut? Which cut?
Which cost saving do you disagree with? And people usually
can't think of any you know.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
So it's transparent, line by line.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
It's transparent line by line, which is quite remarkable, right,
And so, and then with respect to the Treasury, for example,
we the two main recommendations we UH suggested, which have
not been implemented, was that any payments going out of
the Treasury, especially the Treasury's main payment computer, which is

(31:48):
called PAM, things like Payments Account Manager or something like that.
It's like almost five trillion a year, so about a
billion an hour, that the payments be coded with the
congressional appropriation, and that there be an explanation for the payment.
Very basic stuff. And just doing that we estimate will

(32:08):
save one hundred billion dollars a year.

Speaker 10 (32:11):
You're not really let me in see if I get
this right, particularly with so you're not really changing policy
that you're auditing the fiscal mechanisms to make sure that
you know, from point A gets to point B, and
that's where it's supposed to get to. In some cases
it doesn't get there, or some cases it may go
over there.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
But that's right.

Speaker 10 (32:32):
It's not a policy exercise.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
You're not changing laws.

Speaker 10 (32:36):
You're just doing what any business would do in a
profit and loss audit.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I think we're really what we're adding here is caring
and competence, and there's a massive amount of fraud of
basically people submitting social spirity numbers for social security benefits, unemployment,

(33:02):
small business, administration loans, and and medical where where those
are those are those are fake social screen numbers.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
So there there's where.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
They're sold in somebody else's social screen number, and we're
trying to we're trying to put a stop to all
of that. And that that's the number which is estimated
to be on the order of ten percent of federal expenditures,
which is, you know, half of half the trillion dollars,
a huge number m