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July 21, 2025 38 mins
Joe Escalante's weekly probe into the business end of showbiz. This week: South Park got some legal issues, Jane's Addicition got some legal issues, and Kanye might have some sexual assault issues. Also, Stephen Colbert gets canned for biting the hands that feed him for totally financial reasons.   
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
And now it's time for Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood.
If by Hollywood you mean Burbank across the street promo
meaners Nitzel that serves beer.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good Evening America. Tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
As usual, we'll be digging into the biggest story shaking
up the entertainment world, from the latest box office numbers
to the shocking headlines and the legal dramas of course,
that are unraveling behind the scenes. We'll get you up
to speed on the controversial cancelation of The Late Show
with Stephen Colbert, and the multi billion dollar fight brewing

(00:44):
over the South Park Show, and the latest twist in
the James Addxon legal showdown.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
And there's some new Kanye.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Allegations as well, so we will check into that all
on Joe Ascalante Live from Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Let's start with Perry Ferrell. This case is crazy. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
You might remember when this happened. This happened live on
stage at the Leader Bank Pavilion in Boston, Massachusetts. It
was September thirteenth of last year, twenty twenty four. You
saw the videos on YouTube. Perry Farrell's getting mad at

(01:24):
the band and he's attacking them on stage and then
some chaos, and then they leave the stage and they
go backstage, and there's more fights, and then the show's
over and the tour's over. It's like right in the
middle of the tour, and you know these guys, Dave Navarro, Well,

(01:52):
I'll just give you an update right now, Eric Avery,
Stephen Perkins, and Dave Navarro. They're on the one side.
Perry Ferrell is on the other side. He left the stage.
They were acting I think the way anybody who looks
at it would say they were acting normally, and Perry
Farrell was acting strange. Now he might have had a

(02:13):
right to be mad, but he was acting unprofessionally in
front of a crowd to where not only did was
it bad for the crowd to watch, the rest of
the band couldn't continue. So now you have a canceled show.
And then when they get backstage Ago the guy has there,
they've got a problem with him going forward. So Dave

(02:37):
Navarro and Avery and Perkins filed a ten million dollars
lawsuit against Ferrell alleging assault and battery. And this stems
from the concert, which allegedly happened on stage, went backstage
caused the cancelation, lots of financial losses in Navarro's suit
is also like, there's also part of it where he's

(03:00):
especially impacted because he has some ongoing recovery from COVID nineteen.
That sounds pretty that's bad news right now. And there's
a countersuit. Perry Farrell files a countersuit, and his his
angle is this, let me tell me if you think

(03:21):
this is gonna fly. A year's long bullying campaign that
they lodged against him. That's his countersuit. He alleges that Navarro,
Avery and Perkins deliberately played too loudly on stage that
night to sabotage his performance, and even physically assaulted him
and his wife backstage. Farrell claims he wanted to continue

(03:43):
the tour, but the other members unilaterally canceled it publicly
citing his mental health difficulties. Farrell asserts that it was
a defamatory attempt to undermine him and secure insurance coverage
for what he calls their irresponsible cancelation. So he says,
you shouldn't have canceled anyway. I'm not gonna pay any damages.

(04:06):
Why did you cancel it? That's on you? And yeah,
what is there to that claim that they did it
because they wanted to get the insurance. There are certain
things insurance will cover and if there, and it depends
on everybody's policy. Some policies just cover things, and some

(04:29):
policies say, I have an insurance clause that pays out
if someone in the band throws something from the stage
and it hits somebody and hurts them. Yesterday in Denver,
I was on stage at the Punk in the Park
show with the Vandals, and I threw a pick out.
I usually don't throw picks into the audience if someone
really begs me for when I do. But because you

(04:50):
throw a pick and you really can't, it almost never
goes to the person that really wants it. So I
throw it out and it just hits some girl, spends
in the air, hit some we're all square in the
forehead and she's just like, what the f And then
it was very unsatisfied for everybody involved. Of a shameful anyway.

(05:11):
I don't think there's any damages. But yeah, you can
get insurance for if there are deaths in the band,
but not just death's in the band, death's in the family,
like family members, like you could have a specific one,
if this person dies and we have to cancel a show,
the insurance companies can play like eighty five percent of
it or something. And then so I don't know what

(05:35):
their policy looks like, but if Perry Farrell is to
be believed, it said like, if the singer has mental
illness and we have to cancel a show, we're going
to get eighty five percent of our It's that's like
a common number. Eighty five percent. We're going to eighty
five percent of our guarantees. Maybe they ensure their merchandise too,
eighty five percent of that.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I don't know, but they're out in that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Now what I understand is there they're like you know,
in the before the trial starts. They're in this like
you know, court ordered mediation, going back and forth, probably
in two different rooms, lawyers going from one room to
the other room with the judge going one room to the other,

(06:22):
trying to trying to settle this case. But it looks
like the pretty far apart. That's what I'm saying. So
what do I think is going to happen? I believe
the the actions on stage, if you just look from Afar,

(06:43):
one guy acted in a way that caused the show
to be canceled, And then is it reasonable for them
to cancel the tour based on what they experienced at
that show? And we don't know what happened behind the
scenes before, after, or in the show's leading up to
them that, But I mean, there's some harm, and it

(07:05):
certainly wasn't caused by the other three. On the surface,
you'd have to believe that they had a systematic bullying
and they were playing too loud because they wanted to
destroy him and embarrass him. But that would embarrass them also,
So I think if you're a judge or a jury
and you're listening to that, you're like, well, that doesn't
make a lot of sense, you know it. It'd be
very hard to prove. And I'm not saying it's not true.

(07:27):
That might be exactly what they wanted to do. That's
what he says.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
So I'm not.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Taking a side here, but I am saying that Perry Ferrell,
on the surface, has a much harder case to prove.
And this is by no means the first time these
people have been in court. I remember a bunch of lawsuits.
This is what I heard, and I don't seen any

(07:51):
evidence of it was before the Internet and stuff like that.
But I had heard the reason why they broke up
was because they had a manager and the manager took
fifteen percent, and then they fired him because they're volatile
and that drug addicts in the band. And then they
fire that manager. They probably owe them Met Guy money
and they haven't paid them. I'm just guessing. Now, these
are typical things. So they get another manager. Now he

(08:12):
takes fifteen percent, but the other manager still gets his
fifteen percent because they made a bad deal with him.
Then after awhile, they get rid of this manager and
they get another manager and another fifteen percent. Now now
they've given away forty five percent of their income. Now
it just doesn't make sense to play shows anymore. That
was the word on the street before. But they also
have these really crazy like royalty disputes from the Ritual

(08:36):
de Lo Habitual album, where at some point Perry Farrell,
according to court records, wanted sixty two point five percent
of the publishing royalties. So he's saying I wrote, I
write more than half of the material and then leaves
the other members Dave Navarro, Eric Avery and Stephen Perkins

(08:57):
to his twelve point five percent each. Now that's not
sustainable when you have a band, you got to unless
that person's really If Perry Ferrell was writing all the songs,
one hundred percent of all of them, that would be
a fair split. These other guys get a little bit,
you know, sharing in the publishing. But since Perry writes

(09:17):
all the music and all the lyrics, he gets sixty
two point five percent.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
But I'm not sure that's the case.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I've talked to some people that say that that is
just not the case, that they were all writing. And
maybe he's the singer and he's Perry Ferroll and everything.
He's very famous, he's very enigmatic and.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Iconic.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
But a band has to be like a brotherhood, you know,
if it's all dudes, it's a men's club and like
a family. That's how a band can last a long time.
And you can't do that if one guy is getting
all the money. Let's take a break right there. Joe
Scalante Live from Then We are Back. I just got

(09:59):
off of plane. I was in the Denver as I said,
playing punk in the park of Pennywise and the Descendants
and all that stuff. It's pretty exhausting, and even no
matter how comfortable, your travel gets as you spend more
money on it, still exhausting. So I'm not making excuses

(10:20):
or maybe I am. Okay, let's talk about the CBS
announcing the cancelation of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
Final broadcast is going to be May of twenty six.
The network says this is purely a financial decision amidst
a challenging landscape for late night TV. Many are questioning

(10:41):
the true motives behind this cancelation, though. The timing is
particularly interesting because it comes just days after Stephen Colbert
publicly criticized their parent company, Paramount Global. CBS's Paramount company
where I used to work, where I cut my teeth
in the TV business.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Uh whosh.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
So they're they're they're in trouble. Uh you know, probably
shouldn't have got rid of Less Moon Vest, but he
kind of dug his own grave and now.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
They're losing money.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
So they're selling to this sky Dance owned by David
David Ellison.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
He's the guy that does like what does he do?
He doesn't like Mission Impossible or something like that. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Uh, he's a very talented studio head and filmmaker. So
he's gonna buy CBS for I forgot a lot of money.
He could have just built his own studio for the
amount of money he's gonna he's gonna do it. But
you know you want that, You want that iconic CBS logo.

(11:53):
You want the Paramount logo. Paramount is a really good logo,
I mean, and there's a catalog which is huge. So
I I see why he wants it. He wants to
be a mogul. And now he's going to buy this.
He's going to be a mogul. But you can't just
buy one entertainment entity. Can't just buy another one and

(12:14):
say I'm going to buy you and here's the money.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Now I own it.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Because when things get this big, you have to go
through regulatory hurdles because there are antitrust laws in this
country still, and if entertainment company gets too big to
vertically integrate it, it prevents competition and it could prevent

(12:41):
other fine Americans from entering the marketplace and competing, and
that hurts the consumer. So the government has to look
at it. Now the government's Donald Trump and his administration,
so that's the whole other thing. So they need approval,
and if they have sixty Minutes, which is doing things

(13:07):
like that. Trump believes his election interference by editing the
responses that Kamala Harris does on the sixty Minutes interview
and making her sound not stupid. Because when the real
footage they play the real footage, everybody's heard it. They
ask her a question, she sounded real stupid, and then

(13:30):
they edited it to make her sound smart or at
least not stupid. And Trump's like, hey, that's election interference
because you're misleading the people. If you're reporting on this woman,
why don't you report how stupid she sounds. That's the truth,
and we know it because it sits there in the video.
She sounded stupid, regardless if you like her or not.

(13:51):
We all know she sounds stupid a lot. So to
help her and to harm Donald Trump, they edited it.
And I mean that's just I mean, we all know
they hate Donald Trump and they want him to lose,
so we know they did it.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Now are they allowed to do that? Well, they're using the.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
The country's airwaves, so they leased the airwaves from the government,
and so that's the people. So they have to kind
of look out for all the people. They can't pick
a side so they did, and then he was going
to sue them, and they settled because they didn't want
this lawsuit going on while they're trying to get their
sale because the people will own it just want their money.
Just buy this thing and give me the money so

(14:33):
I can go, you know, to Fiji and just sit around.
And that's what they want, and it's not happening because
the regulatory hurdles. So they're just like air sixteen million
dollars just yeah, yeah, we'll pay it to your museum
because yes, okay, we admit we did change that and
we'll change our policies from now on. And did they

(14:55):
say they'd cancel col beer. That's what people wonder. Can
they do that? Can the president say cancel Colbert and
I and I'll approve your your purchase. No, he can't
do that, that would be correct. So there's no evidence
that he did do that. So they say they canceled

(15:20):
the late night show because late night shows are expensive
and there's not a lot of people watching them, so
that means they lose money. That is a that is
a fact, these late night shows. The fat salaries that
Colbert and people get and you know, getting all these
big stars in there in the big theater, that Sullivan Theater.
That's expensive. That show is for sure losing money. I

(15:43):
worked on that show. I was on the team that
brought David Letterman to CBS, and I've looked at the finances.
It's very expensive. And you're doing it not to really
so much make a profit. You want to, but you are.
It is a vehicle of you know, prestige and to
promote other shows, and you want it, so you pay

(16:05):
the money. Now, when a new guy's coming in to
buy the network and he looks at that, Wait, what
are you paying for Colbert? And they tell him and
he goes, how do you justify losing so much money
every year on that? If I buy that, I don't
want to lose any money. I want to make money.
And so they fire him otherwise, So I think he said, like,

(16:30):
you fire him, or I'll fire him.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
And you know they liked him.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
It wasn't he He was getting great ratings, relative like
better than Jimmy Fallon, better then Jimmy Kimmel, but not
as much as Greg Gutfeld. Now, great Gutfeld is something
that no one's really talking about here, But he's the
elephant in the room. He came in and he just
got bigger ratings than everyone on just a cable show.

(16:55):
And he's beating all the networks. And I'm telling you,
they're not spending any money on that show. His salary
is probably twenty five percent of Colbart's, and his audience
is bigger, and his cost of his show is probably
twenty ten percent of what they i'd say one percent
of what they cost to put on a Colbert show.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
And then Jimmy Fallon.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
And Jimmy Kimmel are just not, you know, not getting
ratings at all, and they're so look for this to
possibly happen to the other shows.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
And then you just got great Gudfield. So I hope
you like them.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Hey, maybe you saw it, Joe Scarante, you'r a host
on Greag Gudfield show.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Maybe you did. I was about a year ago.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I used to be on his old show a lot,
but the a new one it's too political for me,
So I don't.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I don't. I don't want to get used to this
old show. Used to be Zany.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I'd come on and I'd be Zany. Now it's just
like they just they just put you on the spot.
And they say, hey, make a political statement, Joe, and
I was like, okay, so, uh, I don't know what
do you think it is. I believe the easiest explanation
is the most simple one, and the most simple one
is the one. They said, it costs too much money

(18:06):
to make the Stephen Colbert Show. Now there's a lot
of people that are out there and they're really mad.
They want an investigation, because maybe investigate the administration. Did
they put pressure on them? These are your new owners? Okay,
it's David Ellison. He doesn't want to spend money, A
wasting money, and I don't think it's a waste. I
think you should keep this show. I think the Colbert
Show should be kept. They should figure out some way

(18:27):
to cut costs somewhere else and keep the late night
show because I think it's important. I don't agree with
it at all, but I take them.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
At their word.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
It was too expensive and they didn't want to blow
any of that money. Now, when we come back, we
have the same problem with south Park, except for it
there's more zeros attached and more success. So why don't
we take a break here and we'll come back more.
Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. We are back Joe Ascalante

(18:58):
Live from Hollywood. Two hours Business, end of show Business.
We do this every Sunday right here on k EIB
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becomes a podcast you can listen to. I get asked
every day do you still have a radio show, and
I say yes, I do. It's on Sunday nights from

(19:20):
five to seven on k EIB coming out of Burbank.
Now Sunday nights might be difficult for you, so listen
to the podcast. Okay, all right, So we were talking
about in the last break about how the sky dance,
the purchase of paramount CBS in there also.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Is like like.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Vh one, MTV, all these all these companies, how the
purchase it needs needs a regulatory approval. So CBS is
worried they're not going to get it. They settled a
lawsuit of sixty minutes. They fired Stephen Colbert, and I'm

(20:07):
saying that is not I'm gonna say that is not
a political thing.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
That was a money thing.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
So now we have the next problem for the merger,
which is.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
South Park. Okay, south Park.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
South Park has a a deal that has been offered this,
like when you hear this number you have, I think
he's like three billion, and he's like, hey, you guys,
we're gonna renew your deal.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Here's three billion dollars. Okay.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Got the Upturning upcoming twenty seventh season and what is
it on Comedy Central? Also part of the Paramount Global thing. Now,
what do you think David Elison, who wouldn't even pay
like a few million a year out of his pocket
to keep Colbert going, what do you think? What do

(21:10):
you think David Ellison thinks of a three billion dollar
ten year deal for South Park Matt Stone and Trey Parker. Yeah,
well didn't like it, so we got this deal which
goes to their company, Matt and Trey's company, Park County.
And I know these guys, these guys are just they
never thought they were going to make any money, any money.

(21:34):
They never thought they were going past season two. Now
they're on season twenty seven. Now their deals are in
the billions. I heard that that they're I didn't hear
this from them. I just heard from someone else that
like the amount of money they get from just the
the Mormon musical that they have, it's like three or
four million a week, even if it's a month, and

(21:57):
I'm exaggerating that. Okay, fine, but I heard it's a
week because it just keeps playing everywhere and the rights
are so huge and the ticket prices are so high,
and then there's the record sales and the streamings and
all that stuff. Anyway, Yeah, so three billion dollars over
the agreements about to expire in twenty twenty seven, and

(22:20):
they believe they had established a basic framework to this
deal with Paaramount. So they made the deal with Paramount
and they believe but it was in the middle of it,
and they believe they had established what they're saying is
a basic framework which constitutes a binding agreement that Paramount
Global is obligated to honor despite the pending merger. Now Skydance,

(22:42):
as the incoming owner, asserts that it has approval rights
over material contracts under the terms of its transaction agreement
with Paramount. This means they're pushing back on that and
they're saying, hey, wait a second, we have approval rights.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
On this now.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
If I seeing the six hundred page acquisition agreements, no,
I don't know how many long they are, but they're
probably big. But so they would like a five year
deal and to cut that money down. And then so
basically they're saying, we're gonna invoke the just kidding clause.
You made a deal with Paramount Global. That's why they're

(23:20):
going out of business, and we got to scoop them
up because they make deals that are too rich or
they just couldn't stand to lead to lose Matt and Tray.
I don't blame them. Those guys are American treasures. You
want them, you want them in your catalog. So one
of the other issues is that Paramount owns the show,

(23:43):
but the streaming rights are held through the South Park
Digital Studios, a joint venture with Matt and Trey and
which gives them about fifty percent of the streaming revenue.
And it's a deal they made back in two thousand
and seven. So steaming streaming, I'm not going to bore you.
Streaming rights are separated from the broadcast rights. Things get complicated,

(24:06):
and let's not get too much into the weeds on
this one. But the basic deal is we are buying
the network, and we want to prove this deal. We
don't want to give you that much money, so we're
going to just not going to and then what does
Matt and Trey do?

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well, they're in negotiations. I do have I do have some.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Information on the inside scoop on this, and I didn't
hear it from them, but I think they're going to
settle this.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
But what will they settle it for?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
When they said, are they going to settle it for
the full three billion for ten years or is it
going to be one point five for five?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
We'll find out this week, I think. Okay, how about
bat celebrities. Kanye West is facing new sexual assault and
wrongful termination allegations. We got Lauren Piskota now our assistant.
Now we have an amended complaint in the These are

(25:06):
civil cases against him. This includes allegations of sexual battery, battery,
sex trafficking, sex trafficking, I guess that's with this with
the woodwind instrument, stalking, and false imprisonment, prisonment, in addition
to earlier claims of sexual harassment and wrong determination. Pisciota

(25:30):
claims West made ubscene comments, grow up her, forced her
to watch sexual accent, even attempted to sexually assault her.
West legal team has denied all allegations, calling them baseless
and accusing Pisciota of blackmail. This is a major legal scandal, right,

(25:50):
And if she's saying that, I mean these are hard
to These are hard to nail down, and these are
this is why this is like, you know, just give
me some money. This is hersing. I want some money now.
Did it all happen to her and it was wrong
and tragic?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:06):
I mean did it happen to her? I don't know,
but if it did, it's awful. Okay, let's put that aside.
Hard to say, like he attempted to sexually assault me?
Did he sexually assault you know? But he attempted to
m That one's hard, so I think it's not that strong.
It might be just people piling on believing that Kanye

(26:27):
West is down and kick him while he's down. Give
me some money too, But we'll see what happens with that.
He might have to go to a sex traffic school. Also, yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Heard it here. Maybe we should start a sex traffic school.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
These people that are could come to us and they
could get a lighter sentence by us educating them on
how disgusting they are. Isn't that the basic regular traffic school?
Do they still have traffic school. I used to go
to let Us amuse You Traffic School, and let Us

(27:10):
was spelled let us like the vegetable, and it's vegetable.
Let Us amuse you Traffic School. Then they had one
also in the catalog. Okay, my brother took this one.
It was called my brother was not gay, but he
took this one because he thought it'd be more funny.
It was called finally a gay traffic school. Okay, finally

(27:34):
a gay traffic school. Fag get it. That's what I
saw it in the catalog because I used to get
a few tickets. When I was yeng I was always
getting pulled over. Now I never get pulled over. I
can't do anything to get pulled over. Okay, all right,
why don't we take a break here and then we'll
come back.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
We'll do my other stuff. Four game.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
We're gonna have to deal with the cold Play kiss cam, right, you.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Have to do that, and then we've got.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Uh some porno is. Sam's not here to defend himself
in the pornography industry, but I have some specific warnings
for people who are thinking about getting into the pornography business,
and I'm going to reveal them as if you need
any more. Right after we break for traffic, Joe Scalante

(28:27):
live from Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah, Joe Ascolant, he's my loyal You.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Don't want Joe Scalante live from Hollywood. And by Hollywood
you mean burd Bank. Okay, we're back. There's a lot
of commercials that just means business is good.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
I told you I was going to talk to you
about pornography. And here it is Sam, my engineer who's
not here right now. He doesn't mind pornography. He finds
that there are benefits from it, and some people do.
I believe it's a tool of the devil. And people

(29:25):
get involved in it, don't It never turns out well
for them. That's I'd just say that with all confidence.
It never turns out well. I had a friend that
got involved in it, destroyed his life and he was
just you know, in the business end of it. He
shifted his focus from regular entertainment, thought he could make

(29:48):
more money in the pornography business and was looking for
a big score. He wanted to get rich like other
Hollywood people. He thought he had a way in pornography,
and it destroyed his life, just destroyed. So I'm telling
you anything that's that looks like a shortcut to fame

(30:11):
or fortune or riches. It's it's not good. But this
stuff is to me one hundred percent demonic. It's definitely.
I think when people are involved in it, they are
showing obedience to this Satan. Maybe they don't know. They're
not like practicing Satan. They don't have a church practicing

(30:33):
a Satanic religion, but they're obeying Satan.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Satan wants it, okay. So evidently there's a There was.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
A a death someone named Kylie Page and it was
the seventh X rated star to die of drug related
causes in the last three years. These are stars. I'm
sure there's other pem like amateur porn that are dying,
you know more, but these are famous people. There's a

(31:12):
So there was an article highlighting all these people, and
it details the death of an individual from a fentanyl
overdose tragically discovered in a context that also involved the
use of pornography. While the specific circumstances are deeply personal,
this incident serves as a stark reminder of the devastating
impact of the ongoing opioid crisis, particularly with the rise

(31:33):
of fentanyl, and how it can be compounded by other
addictive behaviors or isolation for our purposes in the entertainment business.
Here this story, while not directly tied to a real
celebrity or a studio, it does underscore the critical and
often hidden problems that exist within many high pressure industries,
including show business. The entertainment world, with its demanding schedules,

(31:58):
constant travel, intense scrutiny, and often easy access to drugs
and things like that, it is very dangerous. And then
also everybody is looking to be more rich and more
famous and have more Instagram followers than the next person,
or a lower IMDb rating.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
That's a thing too. You're how low is your IMDb rating?
How low is mine? Do you think? Of all the
people in show business?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
I think the lowest mind ever got to be was
like one hundred and twenty thousand, and then it usually
hovers around two hundred and ten thousand. Then if you
look at that, might be like Ryan Gosling might be
in the top ten, or people like that, like maybe
Scarlett Johansson's probably in the top ten right now. If
you go to IMDb and you can look at the
rank of all the celebrities, they're there. If you go

(32:47):
to my page, I think I get a point, So
go there.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Why not? Okay? So anyway, just another dying.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
In a pattern of pornography related drug related deaths.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't want to go into all these deaths.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
So I'm just saying, if you learn one thing from
the show no pornography, okay, you could make money quickly.
I guess you used to be able to make money.
Now I don't think you can make money because of
the Internet. Like before it was like DVDs, people are
making a lot of money. Now it's just you know,
a couple people at the top are famous and they're
going to conventions, and then the rest of them it's

(33:38):
just gross. Okay, Okay, speaking of gross, how about this
coldplate kiss cam? All right, now, this is actually, believe
it or not, touches on some entertainment law issues that
we discussed on this program. So let's go through it.
Andy Byron that's the guy. He was the CEO of

(34:00):
a company called.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Astronomer. Now what does Astronomer do? I had to look
it up.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
They move data around like they provide a slick, fast,
efficient way to move data from point a to point.
B Okay, now this kiss cam, you know what happened.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
He would have it.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
He was having an affair with the president of HR
or the head of HR. He's the president of the company.
Obviously we all know this from our videos that we
saw when we had jobs, where they would say you
should if you have an affair with somewhere in the workplace,
it could end badly. And if you're having sex with
the boss, he can take advantage of you, et cetera,

(34:43):
because he has a power, imbalance of power and all
that kind of stuff. And then the person at HR
is supposed to be telling other people do not have
sex with people in the office, and then she's having
sex with a merry guy in the office.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
So we all know this is bad. We all know
the story.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
But do these guys have have they been wronged legally?
Do they have an expectation of privacy in that Coldplay concert?
I mean, concerts are public events. But does appearing on
a kiss cam inherently waive all rights to privacy, especially
if the footage goes viral and exposes a deeply personal
and potentially damaging situation like this alleged affair where I mean,

(35:22):
where is the line between public spectacle and private life?
Were they doing a public spectacle? Look like they were
in like a luxury box, so they maybe a little
expectation of privacy up in the luxury box, someone puts
a camera on them. It's a little intrusive, right, But
could they sue someone for an invasion of privacy? Well,
of course they wouldn't because they'd be too embarrassed. But

(35:44):
I think if you go out in public, put it
this way. I'll put it in the context of a documentary.
When people say like, oh, I got to get this
guy to sign off on my documentary.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Why because he's in it? So he ended up in it.
He's in the shop.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Does he have an expectation of privacy and he can
prevent you from having being in your documentary?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
No, he can't.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Every time you leave your house, you lose your expectation
of privacy. You walk out the door and you don't
know if a million people are going to walk by
and see you, or a documentary filmmaker will film you
and then five hundred thousand people will see that. You'll
say I didn't agree to have five hundred thousand people
see me. Yeah, you did. You agreed to have millions

(36:27):
see you because you walked out of the house. Okay,
now is the venue liable? Could they go after the
venue and you say, hey, this kiss cam is intrusive.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Now you know what?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
And if you look at your ticket, ticket probably has
a license on there that says like you are you
agree to be on camera because they film these things?
Blah blah blah blah blah. Can they go after social
media for being humiliated? And know what about defamation against
Chris Martin for saying they are He asserted it they
are either having an affair or they're shy?

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Okay? Are they having an affair? They were?

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Okay, so it's true, so it's not deformation. They were
having an affair, so there's no deformation here. And he
also tempered it by saying, oh they're shy one or
the other.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
He didn't say anything.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
But now was he wrongfully terminated by having to quit
that job over at Astronomer? But he quit, he resigned,
But did they pressure him? Sometimes you can you can
be constructively fired. Do you know that term? If you
got fired but you feel you were forced out, you
can call it constructionally fired. I was constructively fired. And

(37:40):
then you could still get unemployment benefits. And that's what
I used to happen to me with like i'd had,
I had a couple of employees, like they would quit
and then they would say they were constructed. And then
you try to go get an employment, they find out
you can't get an employment if you quit. Then they
had this racket, say I was constructively fired because there's
just you know, hostile work environment.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Aware it never worked, never ever.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
But so these two, I think are just gonna have
to enjoy their fame and they have no recourse and
we are just gonna enjoy their memes. Okay, I think
it's sept for now. I will now leave you with
just a taste of the greatest song you've written. Joe
Scalante Live from Hollywood back next week.
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